Infinity General: Jungle Fighters Edition

Are the rules for Outrage! out yet?

>>54478130
Isn't outrage just a manga?

>>54478191
There's miniatures of pretty much all the major characters now. Knauf is the only one with rules at present, though.

>>54478202
OOOOH! You mean character stats!
Yeah no idea.

>>54478202
>>54478217

You guys do realise 4 of them are dead-dead right?

>>54478265
They're still getting models.

>>54478265
Yeah but surely they won't release minis just as collector trash right?

>>54478130
C'mon man, it's just going to be a .pdf for a specific mission or two you can play out, like the Fat Yuan Yuan. What do you care?

Is it worth to get Tohaa 300pts pack? I wonder if it's a good box to pick up an army.

>>54478894
Thing of preference. I like building my armies ground-up.

>>54478894
Contains most of the "essential" stuff and then some.

>>54478894
Considering the fact that tohaa don't have that many units to begin with, and that the box contains a fair amount of them, I would say its a decent deal.

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finally got some respectable work done on this lad

>>54479604
We PanO nao!

Played the missions from Operation Icestorm with some coworkers last week. I'm excited to get into the game, just waiting on my models to come in the mail!

>>54480010
Good shit anon, what did you buy?

>>54480034
Some bolts (I know they're shit but I love how they look, which is more important to me) a hexas sniper and 2 orcs. Just 200 points for now.

>>54480336
So you're playing NCA? Because then bolts aren't that bad since they're one of your two options for a core Fireteam

>>54480336
Bolts are a viable option linked in NCA, but in vanilla you really need to proxy them as something else. They're proper shit unlinked.

>>54480436
Yeah it's NCA. I'll be running a 4 man fireteam of bolts.

>>54480336
Looks like you're going NCA then.
Neither Bolts nor ORCs are very good, but they can work if you make them work. Just don't put Bolts Core and ORC Haris in the same list, as they will want to do the same thing, but an ORC HMG is quite respectable on her own. Get the Beyond Icestorm box as well to make her obsolete via Swiss Guard.

>>54480465
>I'll be running a 4 man fireteam of bolts.
There's never a good reason to do that if you can link 5. That +3 BS bonus on top of BS13 base is what makes the link (and will make Kamau godlike btw).

>>54480497
I'm definitely going to expand to a 5 man team, it's just because the box of bolts only comes with 4.

>>54480473
I'm planning on giving one ORC an hmg and the other one will be a hacker.

>>54480558
Make the HMG your Lt. Then you can generate a free order every turn until it dies and barely give a shit because you have 5 veteran Bolts who ignore loss of Lt.

>>54480831
Except that the LT order can't be used to activate a fireteam.

>>54480883
Disregard, I didn't read.

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>>54478894
It's a good deal. As far as I know it's the box with more figures for the least ammount of $

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>>54480533
Oooohh those wonderful days when CB released a blister of 3 Bolts for 5€ each....

>>54480533
You may be interested in the Beyond Icestorm box more then, considering it comes with a Bolt Paramedic. And if you actually plan to run Bolts, the NCA starter pack is not a bad investment, even if you're unlikely to run everything from it at the same time (but then tournament standard is two lists anyway, so it's good to have options).

Is it ok to run bolts as other units, they don't look very much different then bagh mari or kamui?

>>54481892
Yeah, sure, especially as Kamau don't have too many sculpts and one of them is obsolete now (the Combi + LGL). Just let your opponent know what you're using as what.

>>54481927
Cool man. I got a box of bolts as a present and I do not play their sectorial.

>>54481892
Sure, if you're clear about it, but it's probably worth noting that those other units are also unexciting outside of link teams [just get a damn Nisse instead], and once you do link them up Bolts stop sucking so hard what with the toolkit you can spread across the team.

>>54482264
my sectorial can't run bolts. But and I would have to get a 5th one for the full link. I was thinking about runing them as bagh maris and add Rao to them.

I'm currently trying to decide to either start with tohaa or nomads. Both of the have aesthetics that I like but I'm still not too sure on how either plays.

>>54482367
> I was thinking about runing them as bagh maris and add Rao to them.
I do this. It's easier to get combi rifle Bolts than a single Bagh Mari with combi rifle.

So I'm a new player and I'm a little lost. How do I tell which hacking program my units have? And which profile do I use if there are multiple "Model X w/ combirifle" but different side arms. Do I just choose when list building?

>>54482915
Are you using the Army Builder or the wiki?
Hacking is a bit of a headspin at first because of how the rules are presented, but in general hacking programs depend on type of hacking device. Generic HD has basic programs, so a little supportware, a bit infowar and some utilities. HD+ has those and more. Killer Hacking Device only has programs that target other hackers and one that allows the user to disguise himself; and so on.

>And which profile do I use if there are multiple "Model X w/ combirifle" but different side arms. Do I just choose when list building?
Do you mean like if a guy either has AP or DA CCW or either Heavy or Assault Pistols? Yeah, basically. If it's worth paying extra depends on the unit, e.g. getting that extra Burst on Desperadoes via Assault Pistols can come in handy if you want to hit multiple spread targets, but spending the points for one on a Morlock is pointless, as you want them in CC one-on-one anyway.

>>54482915
http://www.captainspud.com/n3hacking/

This helps a lot on hacking. Eventually you'll learn that not all programs are equal within one device and have it down pat which ones to use.

>>54477478
>wild newfag appears
I want some panoceania, I never played infinity.
What do I buy?
I only got into 40k before, are citadel paints alright?

>>54483227
Gw paints are just fine if overcosted.

Operation Icestorm or the PanO starter of your choice. Posting from phone. Sorry for terseness.

>>54483227
>I only got into 40k before, are citadel paints alright?
They alright, although I'm switching out to Vallejo one by one, as they run out.

If you want pure PanO, good news! There's going to be a new set that brings PanO and Nomad armies from Operation: Icestorm up to 300pts, which is the standard game size. It's going to include two great units and a NeoTerra Bolt.

But if you don't have a buddy to split Icestorm with, go with the Starter set, HMG Nisse and Auxila box are common recommendations. If you also get the Indigo Spec-Ops model to act as Fusilier #4 (or get the Fusi box right away), you get a simple 200pts and 10 models list with this, easy to learn how the game plays with.

>>54478894
I have no idea what is in the Tohaa 300pt box. The thing you must ask yourself is does this have 2 or more Rasails and does this have 2 Kaeltars.

>>54483361
>>54483435
>PanO starter
>40 euro
>6 models
>this is 2/3 of the standard army apparently
This is gonna be hell of a new experience, huh.
I saw some posts about hacking, hopefully this game only looks complicated.

>>54483732
Yeah expect for Pano 10-14 models

>>54483732
Hacking is probably the most complicated part, but the game can be pretty daunting at first. But once you get the hang of the basics, it will go smooth, as there aren't that many faction specific rules as in 40. Most armies use the same equipment but in different amounts, e.g. PanO barely has Holoprojectors and has no Smoke while Haqqislam has those in spades, but they have only one TAG and PanO has a choice of 7.

>>54479947
well fuck you too

>>54483550

The Tohaa box contain the following:

4x Makaul
3x Kamael
1x Clipsos
1x Sakiel
1x Ectros
1x Kotail
1x Nikoul
2x Kaeltar (the little shits included)

Daily reminder, that PanO saved Human Sphere.

>>54487638
>implying that's a good thing

>>54487638
Daily reminder PanO can't win anything without fudging the numbers.

>>54487638
Kamau.

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Best Heavy Infantry or best heavy infantry?

With ITS rules can I use this model for all the Daofei profiles? Don't wanna use the old sculpt.

Which Daofei is everyone's favorite? I think I'd like the Assualt Hacker most because its a specialist, can surprise hack enemy HI/TAGs, and with Infiltration you start close to your good range bands on the Multirifle.

>>54489557
Ever since playing Onyx I've been a fan of surprise spitfires. Daofei certainly does that well while cutting a few points from the HMG loadout to squeeze in some other unit.

Though I don't play Yu Jing, but I bought Red Veil (and soon its booster) for the Haqqislam stuff, so I'll have it around to tiddle with as consequence.

>>54489557
Most people will be fine with proxying it as other profiles, as long as you let them know and remind them during the game

>>54489557
Daofei have always been premier troops. Camo on an HI with it's quality is amazing, adding in Infiltration and the weapon choice only increases it. Now that he has a Spitfire option, he can return to N2 levels of glory as being better than a Hac Tao in practical terms.

Spitfire's the most practical way to do things. He's a murdermachine that can surgically destroy parts of the enemy and allow cheaper specialists to accomplish objectives. The main choice each turn is to either put him in SupFire, (if facing weaker troops) or to recamo (if facing a real peer threat).

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>>54489557
That's not the Hac Tao, Su Jian, Karakuri, nor Achilles. Hac Tao quite debatable to being better overall as the TO is always an improvement, along with the KHD options, the extra armor, BTS, BS, and Nanopulser. One long movement gets you right about where infiltration would and then you have a Daofei+++. I do love the Daofei though.

It's not technically a close combat pose, the gun's very visible so it is indeed supposed to just be the HMG. I would say it's kosher for the profile which doesn't exist yet, that being the Spitfire and boarding shotgun. Both are easy to convert.

The old MULTI still has to sub for the AHD profiles. Non-semantically, most players would let you play it for whatever profile you want. As for why they didn't release it as a Spitfire to begin with is beyond me. It better compliments the existing troops with HMG and its mid-field infiltration range. [small hopes it gets released later on] Either way that spitfire is easy to convert given its posture and the spec-ops kit. I'd do it if I didn't already put the spitfire on one of my Aragotos.

Favorite Daofei I use is the Multi-rifle AHD. It's because I used the OOP Invincible for it. I'd probably give the Spitfire a shot. Seems like a hilarious aggressive Lt that Yu Jing can support with the Pheasant Rank and EO Hac Tao.

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Painted up some Naffatun. One's at a different standard from the others. And the token black guy I was trying to do ended up having too dark a skin tone. But hey, new line troops with a lot of tactical flexibility.

>>54492638
He's Nigerian.

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>>54489003
>implying Mimetism BS13 1 SWC HMG is bad

>>54493109
>>implying Mimetism BS13 1 SWC HMG is bad

I'll probably continue to relay on Nisse and Fusilier HMG. Kamau are going to be FOs. Though about using one as lieutenant but just for a point or two I can take Rao.

Once Varuna is released two Snipers in full link team. I do wish Kamau would be more exciting, an X-visor somewhere, perhaps forward deployment instead of mimetism or even inferior infiltration. At least they're not Bolt level bad, Bostria trying to hype the Bolts through their BoW videos was rather sad.

Supposedly we're getting a girl ORC as special character.

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Starting me some Scots. I am beyond bored with Vanilla CA.

>>54495582
Nice work

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My fellow Ariadnans,
I just want to point out a few things, here, at what seems to be the axis of the blockade.
I’m deeply honored to have served along some of the most amazing, honored and bloodied blokes and gals in the entire Human Sphere.
We’ve given everything we could and went beyond. We’ve reached Humanity’s enemies where they stood, thousands and thousands miles from our very own home. We were chosen to protect Humanity against the Alien menace and from Humanity itself, despite our lack of technology, despite every single odd we had against us, despite the fact none of us could or would ever return home since we do not posses CUBEs. We already reached the stars and we are thousand of miles beyond it, brothers and sisters.
No one, and I mean it, no one ever thought we Ariadnans would achieve so much more than being puppets that they can simply use and abuse in exchange for the resources of our great home, Dawn.
We are better trained, we are more honored, we are far more battle hardened. This is Dawn’s legacy, my fellow brothers and sisters, yet again, we’ve reached the stars and went beyond it and I’m damn proud of all of you!
End of line.

>>54495743
>it's an AFY post

>>54495582
Wow what is your technique for doing whose eyes?

So I pretty much have all the options for the USAR, and was thinking about expanding into Vanilla to get some of that kazak goodiness or SAA since the new starter looks great, any recommendations for which one to go with?

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>>54495743
Never forget.
Don't fall for their lies!

Post Wotan Phase 3 PDF. Also post any of the Flamestrike ones if you have them.

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>>54496078

>>54495621
Thanks!

>>54495789
I paint the eye socket black then carefully paint a white line on the black leaving a small border of black. For the pupil I use a .20 Micron pen.

>>54479604

Colors do seem PanO but that Zhayedan wears them better than any PanO trooper ever will.

The Path of Knowledge has granted him superior mastery of their colors.

>>54489557

Huh, is that an alternate Al Fasid sculpt?

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Is this standard uniform?

>>54496599
Thongs and g-strings are mandatory per PanO official dress code. So yes.

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>New sword Fiday
>New fem Ragik with a braid
>New Tarik with a god damn spitfire

CB stop, my penis can only get so erect

Are the expansion boxes as good for all the other factions? The new sniper intruder looks sick, but I don't really know enough about how the factions play to judge.

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>>54496651
Loving the zweihander on the Swiss Guard, as well.

>>54496651
The Pano side of icestorm is garbage but the nomad side is pretty gud considering how awesome the taskmaster morat is. Hellcat is average. Sniper intruder is kinda nice but insanely gay that they locked it behind the box. Cho will have fun with that one.

>>54496651

That Fiday and Tarik are godlike.

I have a love for beastmode Tarik, but that classic action pose is sexy.

>>54496599

Fucking Spaniards

With my Delve into CHA I have been doing a lot of list building while I get models painted. My aim right now is to get the feel for general ITS coverage. I did some tinkering and put this together yesterday.

Caledonian Highlander Army
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GROUP 1 9 / 1
WALLACE Lieutenant Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, EXP CCW. (0 | 35)
WARDRIVER Hacker (Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 19)
UXÍA McNEILL (Covert Action) (CH: Limited Camouflage, Superior Infiltration, Specialist Operative) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges, Smoke Grenades / 2 Assault Pistols, AP CCW, Knife. (0 | 27)
S.A.S. (Forward Observer) Rifle / Pistol, AP CCW, Knife. (0 | 24)
S.A.S. (Forward Observer) Rifle / Pistol, AP CCW, Knife. (0 | 24)
S.A.S. Chain Rifle, Grenades / Assault Pistol, AP CCW, Knife. (0 | 22)
112 Light Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 12)
DOZER (Traktor Mul Control Device) Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
TRAKTOR MUL (Total Reaction) Uragan MRL / Electric Pulse. (1 | 18)
CATERAN T2 Sniper Rifle / Pistol, AP CCW. (1 | 24)

GROUP 22 / 1
HIGHLANDER GREY AP HMG, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, CCW. (1.5 | 34)
VOLUNTEER HMG / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19)
VOLUNTEER Chain Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 6)
VOLUNTEER Chain Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 6)
VOLUNTEER Chain Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 6)
HIGHLANDER Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 6)
WARCOR (Sixth Sense L1) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)

5 SWC | 299 Points

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>>54496651
Yeah, I bought that box mostly for "Big Dick" Tarik Mansuri, the Ragik, and Zhanying. "Big Dick" Tarik is going to be getting a lot of action because he's the Spitfire version which helps compliment his status as an aggressive Super Jumping Lt more. Having actual Armor, Two Wounds, Martial Arts, better movement, and +1 PH plays into what makes the Khawarij good, but does it oh so much better. Should they have avoided a Named Character in a starter set, though? I say so.

For the Yu Jing half it's kind of weird as the HMG Daofei and Multi-Sniper Guilang already exist as old sculpts and would have been much preferable to just have the sculpts for the combi-rifle and Spitfire of the same models. I'm definitely converting the Guilang when it comes out, sadly. Oddly enough the Yu Jing one is the only one that gets it closest to the full three hundred by actually being 300 points.

The Pan Oceania one is kind of the runt of the litter, Swiss Guard's good and fine (although i'd agree with others that if the CCW were visible it should have been a halberd), but the Kamau HMG is not quite the best thing for them as it is still a delicate piece at one wound ARM 1, and Bolts are kind of bloated in price because of the Bioimmunity, Combi+LSG, and Vet Skills.

Nomad one has people excited because it includes a big new unit with an exotic rule, kind of like how Haqqislamite players were excited for the new Al Fasid in Red Veil. Hellcat Spitfire is kind of "meh." Not the worst, not the best. Intruder Multi-Sniper is a classic Nomad unit (although it seems that people like the HMG more nowadays), Really optimized despite the not quite needed X-visor that combination of Camouflage, ARM, and MSV-2 really takes the cake. It's what a Corregidor heavy Vanilla Nomads army would have likely bought anyways. I know several who already did.

>>54497124
>not quite needed X-visor
Friendly reminder that X-Visor mitigates the shitty MSR close range bands too.

>>54496651
I so hope that later they will split the box in to blisters or a faction boxs, just like they did with red veil. I have no one to split the box with, and it took me months to sell the haqqislam part of red veil and I doubt the w40k guys are going to buy any of those for their IG.

>>54496651
Pano suffers cause bolts are only good in highly niche cases. Swiss is swiss. Kamau is a faster nisse/bagh, strong but boring. The only thing that is an obvious must get would be the swiss, good thing its pimp as fuck looking too. Bolts are good proxies for things too i guess.

So onto nomads. Intruders are a staple of nomad armies, hmg is preferred due to weight of dice but the msr does have advantages, plus the new lady sculpt is great. Hellcats are inexpensive drop troops and i usually take bsg or spitfire anyway, hmg is also a good one too. New shininess kriza borac is the most straight up shooty unit nomads now have access to. Good expansion.

>>54497441
I mean, I've never had to shoot beyond 48" ranges by simple semantics that it's almost impossible to shoot from one corner to the other without being severely blocked by LoS, and I'd rather shoot the pistol if at the 0-8" range if I'm so threatened so that's why I say it's not quite needed, but it's still a rather well optimized profile nonetheless.

>>54488627
The salt is real!

Eww, the site has a new layout.

>>54497815
Huh. I expected them to fuck up the site even worse, but this is largely an improvement. News posts can actually be sorted and navigated, the faction descriptions have links to their respective store and catalogue pages, everything important is fairly easy to find, and perhaps most importantly you can actually open shit in a new tab. It has one of those obnoxious shitty fixed navbars that seem so popular nowadays, but other than that it's a significant step up from the last shitshow.

>>54477478
What do people think of the grunt spec op?

>>54498414
I think it is inline to be my best looking SAS.

>>54498414
A reminder the Blackjack will be revealed at gencon.

>>54498414
The Gencon one is oddly Kazak looking

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So ... is this still a metal model?Gluing that head seems incredibly awkward.

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>>54498414
This one or the generic one?

>>54499143
Yes its metal, it was shown on the BoW vid with the new spec ops. The only parts you need to glue on iirc is the right arm and the scabbards.

>>54499271
The generic hasn't been shown yet. There is the old one, though.

>>54499143
I am going to throat punch the person who plays this abomination against me.

>>54499271
Will this be available through online retailers too or is it just cb and their fuckin ridiculous spanish shipping?

>>54499615
But there is only four other alternative sculpts!

>>54499694
well I need him for my holo echos. So 5 is just the right number for me.

>>54499694
>well I need him for my holo echos. So 5 is just the right number

That means you have a 1/5 chance of being throat punched. Choose wisely.

So I like FRRM what do?
Strategies to try?
Models to buy?

>look up panO shit since i asked how to start yesterday
>all females not wearing armour are lewd as fuck
o-oh my

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>>54496599
Yes.

>>54500473
skip them until they get new sculpts.

>>54500473
3 Sniper Zouvaes + Knauf. Add Chasseurs. Fill the rest with some cheap mooks. Proceed to wipe the floor with me.

>>54500608

They're the next focus of a revamp right? Along with Shas'nasty?

so, I stopped playing before hsn3 came out, what significant changes have there been?

>>54500733
Allegedly.

I wouldn't trust it until it happens.

>>54500608
Unless you like the current ones, ofc.

>>54500803
Pheasant Ranks are "good" now. Teutonic knights are "bad" now. Everyone has Fireteam Haris options. Fireteam duo (basically a fireteam of two guys) is now a thing. EVO repeaters are great now, reworked as hackers basically. Onyx Contact Force (basically robots with some Shasvastii and Morat units) is now a sectorial. A few new units (like two or three per faction), not all of them have models yet, but they're all flavorful and optimized units.

>>54500803
Some new units, couple of new sectorials, some rewritten rules, like how links work and what kind of them there is.

>>54500530
That's why the Hyperpower always wins, we have the best females

>>54500987
>everyone has Haris now
as a Qapu Khalqi player, I'm upset

>>54500803
Hacking is completely different.
There's a thing called Command Tokens that are used for things like coordinated orders, reforming link teams etc. Each player gets 4 to spend.
They minimized the number of unopposed rolls. Surprise Shot is now a -3 modifier instead of a Normal Roll with a reaction if the target survives. MSV3 cannot immediately shoot at Camo, it just doesn't need to roll for Discover.
G: Servants don't need to be within 8" of the Doc/Engi.
Doc is no longer 0.5 SWC (aside from Bipandra, because they never updated Dire Foes).
There's a lot more.

>>54501220
That's the changes from N2 to N3. There was a decently long period between N3's and HSN3's releases.

>>54501438
Ah, I misunderstood as before N3.

>>54500987
I am not sure if Pheasants are 'Good' now, but I definitely don't mind buying them quite as much for that delicious chain of command. I still wish the Bao/Pheasant Haris had a better point man than the Red Fury Pheasant. Can't Baos get a Spitfire? Mk 12? Marksman Rifle? Anything besides combirifle or MSR?

Kaeltars and Farzans are still way better Chain of Command buys.

>>54500019
more like 100%. I love chibis.

>>54502294
You mean 0% then. Also I love chibis too, I don't get why people are getting so hardcore salty over this one when Infinity is full of animu shit to begin with

>>54500987
I try to make pheasants and bao work but they still way too much to he competitive.

>>54500733
>MRRF
No. Kazaks,Tartary Army Korp, are next iirc

>>54500803
Basically the same except Paradiso stuff is in HSN3 (Tohaa, Steel Phalanx). SEF and MRRF are out (until whenever theyre updated) ans Onyx ans USARF are in. New units, equipment/weapons, and some new rules. But generally the same

>>54499787
Chibi Sforza Now!

>>54501030
Someone paste the Briscard quote.

>>54503755
Chibi Joan exists
-knower

>>54503755
>>54503970
But seriously though, who asked for chibi Mushahi?

>>54503970
>shitty old joan
>exclusive joan
>joan bust
>chibi joan
Every joan covered except for the one that matters

>>54497972
>you can actually open shit in a new tab
10/10 just for that.

>>54502386
no this means I am going to use him so have a 5/5 chance to get punched aka 100%.

Asked my store owner why he won't be having the beyond boxs. Told me he tried to order, but spaniard told him they are all out of them. Story of my life. Well at least I don't have to worry about not being able to split the box.

>>54505662
Is that meant to be Buran or Bchran?

>>54505481
There are a bunch of online U.S. based vendors that are taking preorders right now

>>54505662
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LMhHDSg1iE

So I just picked up this game. Planing to play Morat Aggro Force and I have picked this up is there anything else that is like a must have for my faction / where do I go from here?

3 Morat vanguard
Kornak
Raktorak
YaoGat Sniper
2 Sogarats
Suryat with HMG
2 Zerat
4 Daturazi
Oznat

>>54505240
maybe they had a siesta when planning the regular release joan

>>54507117
Doctor Worm (medtech obsidian mech) is always worth bringing. Qdrone. I like Rodoks a lot too. Work out what you want to be your 5 man link and your haris.

>>54503771
What quote? Now I'm curious.

Also, anyone got any tips for using Shaolin Monks? I broke down and bought a pack because I have no interest in the Celestial Guard and lots of interest in smoke grenades.

>>54499143
This is ridiculous but I'd smile like a dumb motherfucker if I was facing it.

>>54507117
>Bought the Zerat box
Fuck you.

>>54505240
Exclusive Joan is enough for me.

>>54507182
I have no idea what to put in a 5 man link (Still kind of new)

But I think I can do a Haris of Kornak and the 2 Sogarats?

>>54507604
Why?

>>54507787
Most people go with Rodoks or Yaogats as their core link. Oznat + hungries is also an option

>>54507787
CB has this fucktarded policy where they won't resculpt things that sell.

Instead of giving us new updated Zerats that fit with the rest of the line they just shoved them together in a box (like doc worm and friends) because people are still buying them (because they're the only infiltrating specs we have) and they figure they don't have to make new ones.

Same deal with the shitty as fuck looking Auxilia and the manlet Sekban.

So you're confirming CBs fucktarded policy for them by buying the box. And that's why you get a nice big Fuck You.

>>54507507
Shaolin monks are 5 points and get a free order to be dumb asses and rush at the enemy. It's hard to go wrong with them. Do smoke dodge if they run in front of someone with a gun. Use their orders to lay smoke for MSV units without having to dig into your regular order pool. If they get lucky enough to get near something, hit them with chain rifle. If they get absurdly lucky and get into melee with something, laugh and always use Martial Arts Level 3.

There is literally no reason to use any besides the 5 point chain rifle profile.

>>54507972
Wow I like how you just jump to being an asshat because a new player bought a blister of stuff from the discount at game store for $10. For a Policy he knows nothing about.

So good job ass hat.

>>54508063
He didn't buy the blister he bought the box.

Fuck CB and their stupid re-release policy and fuck you too.

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>>54507507
Deploy them carefully. They are extremely impetuous and have to move 4" toward the closest enemy model every impetuous phase. If they trigger an ARO it can be disasterous for some deployments.

>impetuous move next to your Yan Huo
>Trigger ARO from Missile Launcher
>Special Dodge throw smoke and lose the FtF roll
>Both Monk and Yan Huo take an AP/EXP round to the face

Also remember that when they special dodge with smoke if they place the smoke within 8" they get that sweet +3 range mod on the FtF.

Grenades use Physical as if it were BS.

Suicidal Monks are stronk. Abuse chain rifles.

If a Monk gets into melee with something it can wipe the floor with dont keep spending orders on the Monk to kill the thing. Just let him deal with the Monk with his own orders.

>>54508089
I fucking bought a blister that was so old it had fucking dust on it you fuck tard.

That Policy is retared buy you don't have to be a fucking dip shit ass hat about it you usless sac of shit.

>>54508168
>Bought a blister.
>Singular.
>2 Zerats
>Trying to lie to me.
Consider suicide.

>>54508220
Woah guys watch out we got a confirmed bad hombre over here.

>>54508245
More like someone with proper reading comprehension.

>>54508220

You know their is a blister with 2 Zerats Right?

>>54508291
THERE very well could be.

>>54508089
So us on the doll where CB touched you.

>>54508333
I don't let CB cuck me.
>Acheron falls 2016


Zerats are shit anyway.

>>54508352
> Don't let CB cuck me
> Spend your free time shiposting in Infinity General

Alrighty my man.

>>54508374
>Spend your time whining in Infinity General.
Multitasking must be a foreign concept to you I guess.

>>54507906
So for a Core link do they all have to be the same type of model or is anything that core as a tag for fire team?

>>54508489
They have to be the same model, except when exceptions are noted (such as an oznat can form a core team with up to 4 hungries)

>>54508220
Don't listen to these fags anon, next thing you know they'll be telling you you can get two zeroes in a blister


oh wait...

>>54508548
Okay got it thanks a bunch for the help

I've been having a little bit of trouble handling Infinity as ISS. I've played a lot of malifaux but i generally have been struggling with each model being in a "pool" of orders along with maybe a little bit of list building.
Generally I've been taking something like
Combat group 1:
4 Kuang shi
1 Celestial w/ Controller
1 Celestial Hacker
1 Crane
1 Celestial FO
Combat group 2
Sophatect
Harris of Bao and Pheasant
Celestials/HI to fill

Any tips people have for me in terms of my list/how to play better?

>>54508612
No problem anon, have fun
and if you go with a Rodok link I'd still probably keep that yaogat sniper in there for some MSV2

>>54505662
>>54506233
What did he mean by this?

>>54508635
I don't play ISS or even Yu Jing, but the first thing that stands out to me is you have a lot of orders in group one thanks to your kuang shi, but the only model in that group you'd be spending a lot of orders on is the Crane

>>54507906
>Most people go with Rodoks or Yaogats as their core link. Oznat + hungries is also an option

Daturazi Core all the way, smoke dodging on 2 dice at 20s while your enemy is -3 to hit for mimetism, spec shotting grenades at people on 14s, moving up as a 5 man then breaking the link by coordinated spec firing 4 grenades at once on 11s.

It's just great IMO.

Tag on a Yaogat Haris to exploit the literally cannot fail smoke throwers and you're looking good.

>>54508938
In stikezone wotan, Ariadna attacked the Nomads because they wanted to build their own space ship, even though Ariadna and Nomads were previous allies, and Corregidor are masters of zero-g engineering

>>54508128
>If a Monk gets into melee with something it can wipe the floor with dont keep spending orders on the Monk to kill the thing. Just let him deal with the Monk with his own orders.
Generally good advice but also look at what's nearby. I've had too many people smugly leave good CC troops engaging my Vedic Aleph stuff only for a Steel Phalanx unit to wander into the combat and smash their shit with the burst bonus he now gets.

I mean, if it's a monk and It's costing me multiple orders to bring the myrmidon, that's still probably a win, but sometimes you are better off going for the kill.

>>54509029
Good points friend, I forgot about Daturazi as a core fireteam I actually don't play morats, my brother in law does

>>54509073
Yeah I agree that what's around does make a pretty big difference on that point. Against some factions though it's generally a solid plan.

>>54509029
That sounds super cool. Since I just started reading the fire teams book how dose the breaking the link and throwing 4 Grenades work?

>>54509372
First you cancel your fireteam without spending any order, then you spend a command token and a regular order to make a coordinated order, remember that the spearhead and all participants must have the same target.

Playing vanilla Nomads, and I have a question:

Jags or Morlocks?

>>54509706
Jags. Especially the Panzerfaust+Glue Gun profile.

>>54509706
Jags and Morlocks. Former are a reliable order base that can trade up and throw smoke, latter are psychotic attack dogs who may or may not get huge mobility/toughness bonuses.

>>54509706
Fuck em both. Uberfalkonmando team is best.

>>54509876
Eh they all have their specific uses, but Jags are probably the most well rounded

>>54509876
Uberfalls don't have smoke, ya dingus.

>>54510039
Eclipse grenades. But then you can't shoot through with Intruders.

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>>54510039
>Uberfalls don't have smoke

>>54509602
Nice thanks a bunch.

>>54510085
And cuck your own Intruders :(

>>54509706
Both. At least one Jag to pair with your Intruder. I like Morlocks in a second group with a couple spare orders so you can rush one up if there is an opening. I always take E/m cc ones.

How close do you think Vedic Aleph and Tunguska will end up being in playstyle? I can kind of see them both being very hacker-heavy.

>>54509053
cmon faggets, flash event where we get to blow this backwards piece of shit into scrap.


>TFW Corvus runs with this and makes it the introduction to the VNID

>>54509706
Depends on what you want. A harder to put down backline alguacil that will gut your enemy AD/infiltrators in CC and is best buddies with an Intruder? Jags are your guys.

Or do you want a mobile landmine with two orders for itself and plays slot machines with its stats and cost almost half as much as a Jag? Morlocks.

Or if you want to see the board game equivalent of a low power Warframe, look no further than the all purpose blender packaged as the Uberfalls.

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>DA FUCK

>>54511567
12 WIP muh man.

>>54511567
PANO INTUITIVE ATTACK GO!

>>54510949
>Low Power Warframe
>Not Bran Do Castro, Shikami or Taurik,

>>54505925
am not from the US.

>>54511760
You can also pre-order from the Corvus Belli store

>>54511567
>"Aelita, could you hold a pistol for the shot?"
>"...That's a banana."
>"Now you're holding the hols... You know, fine. I don't think anyone notices."
>"Join the army, they said. It will be fun, they said."

>>54508635
One thing I've found in Yu Jing, and especially ISS is that remotes are great ways to round out your teams. You get an amazing amount of utility for the cost. Guns, specialists, sensor, repeaters, AD, etc there's a lot on the table.

It looks like you have the Kuang Shi core battery going, but I'd also want to get the core crane CG group. There is a lot of versatility in that team. Hot swapping fireteams is a legit strategy, just set up for it.

Don't be afraid to use the Kuang Shi as a screen. Dogged chain rifles are good for making people wary. They also make great missiles to punish bad deployments. The dogged template with explode is great at forcing bad situations at close range. And never forget pistols.

Yo, Military Orders guys

How do yah Magister Knight / Hospitaler Knight core?

>>54510080
>>54510140

>I can only throw Eclipse Grenade in front of my own units

>>54500606

They need to release the male version.

>>54496843

Not using Inspiring Leader as much as I would however that may just make you a better player.

You thinking Volunteers as the fireteam?

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>>54513029
Hospitaller Doctor and 4 Magisters. Sometimes I give one a missile launcher depending but mainly their panzerfausts make short work of anything I don't like. Doctor is just to make the link and keep them alive. Never liked running 2 Hospitallers with them, Santiago's sure, but rarely 2 Hospies.

However, I found out just this morning, after all my time playing MO, that De Fersen can join a magister link, so I'm gonna try out Gabe with a Doctor and 3 mooks.

>>54513174

1) Do you think that using Command Tokens are necessary to make fireteams work? My group is scared of them because the game is already really complicated.

2) How much do you invest in trying to get them to melee?

>>54513029
There's 2 ways to do it. First is Hospitaller HMG with ML and optional doc, fill out the rest with mooks. That's for excessive long range murder. Second is multi rifle doc with mooks. That's for cheaper close range attack.

>>54513174
>>54513311

Ok, so it sounds like this is a very legit pain train.

I just wrapped up a game where they got popped but I think that was more because he ran them into 4 AROs (2 of which are suppressive fire)

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>>54513250
>1) Do you think that using Command Tokens are necessary to make fireteams work? My group is scared of them because the game is already really complicated.

It can be a little complicated at first but once you get the basics down its pretty simple, the main thing is that fighting against a fireteam without being prepared to deal with one is rough, the bonuses for having 5 men in a link is pretty stronk. Command tokens aren't super necessary, you may only use one or two on the actual fire team since they are only necessary in the instance that your link breaks (Link Leader dying, getting isolated, or falling out of coherency) in which case you can reform it.

Its all a bit complicated at first but once everyone gets the basics down you will learn as you play.

>2) How much do you invest in trying to get them to melee?

Barely ever, Knights are good at melee sure, great in fact, but they are much better at shooting. At the end of the day we are still PanO. Melee should really be a last resort or just for the giggles if you get the drop on some helpless enemy mook, but considering the fireteam bonuses only apply for shooting its more likely that you will be guns a blazing.

>>54513373
lol, yeah taking 4 ARO's is less then ideal.
And yes, knights are a furious murder brick, not good at grabbing objectives, but your opponent is also not very good at grabbing objectives whens he's dead.

>>54513401
oops wrong picture

>>54511567
Peebee method of gunfighting I see.

>>54507507
>What quote?
My bad, it was a Zouave.


>"Of course, mon frere, if there are good reasons for enlisting in the AEC and going out there, they are the women. It may seem an exaggeration, but they are all very hot. C'est incroyable! And while it's so difficult to choose, there are some for all tastes. PanOceanians are quite sexy but they are all affected poseurs. If you like the exotic and hysterical kind, you have Yu Jing. The Haqqislamite chicks are the ones that smell the best, they are as pretty as they are delicious. O-12's public servants are very hot in the manner of a sexy librarian. And the Nomads...mon dieu! Nomads are all strange. Very, very sttrange..."

>Adjudant (Warrant Officer) Jean-Fransois Dunan, Zouaves, Regiment Special d'Intervention, on his return from his first tour in the AEC. A week later he signed up for his second tour.

Any fellow PanO players out there who got the new Bagh Mari HMG, can you tell me if the head in the blister comes separate from the body?
I wanna get 2 so that I can use the helmet of one of them to replace the stupid half open one in the 4 man box.

>>54514437
You can use the one from Indigo.

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>>54508220

>>54511655
Bran is 4-4, Shikami is too and not Nomad, Tarik is not Nomad but a good choice.

>>54511567
Im more concerned about the complete absence of trigger discipline.

>>54514437
>I wanna get 2 so that I can use the helmet of one of them to replace the stupid half open one in the 4 man box.
I guess I've gotten an extra head in that box?

shas update when

>>54516208
It's stealthy.

>>54516243
kek

Anon asking about FRRM yesterday, what's a good expansion from the FRRM starter set?

>>54516829
Get One or both if you can of the Chasseurs and the Hunzakut LGL to proxy yet another Chasseur. Equipe Mirage-5 if you don't mind playing named characters, the slightly older models, and getting the best non-enhanced BS in the game. Jacques Bruant is a good Lt too.

>>54516829
Briscards + Briscard HRL, good 5-man core link, Assault pistol + Marksman Rifle is godly

http://www.data-sphere.net/how-to-start-with-the-merovingian-rapid-response-force/

>>54508089
Its autism Tuesday!

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>>54516829
Frenchies are DEAD in this game.
Their spot was occupied by the USARF.
CB is currently updating the Caledonian.
TAK is the next big thing for Ariadna.

I can only think about of a Merovingia resculpt at some point 2020.
Who knows even if CB will be around by then.

>>54517060
Their models are still great
Their rules are still solid
They have multiple playstyles (3 great links, 2 great drop troop options, 2 different good infiltrators)
Basically everything they have is good except Moblots

Fuck off.

>>54516829
More Metros to fill in the link, Zouaves, Chasseurs, Dozer + Traktor Muls.

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Who else is trading exclusive minis with fellow players who bought the beyond boxes?

And who the hell asked for chibi Mushashi that CB thought there'd be a demand?

>>54517060

MRRF is fine. They have plenty of tools to win a game.

>>54517106
Even Moblots are decent when you consider they're basically MI with 4-4 MOV.

Their costs/stats are very comparable to wildcats, bolts, etc but they have better advantages(can take mimetism, infiltration, etc) and lack the BTS 6.

Mimetism option especially is solid. Basically a bagh mari that traded MSV1 for +1 BS/ARM, shock immunity and the extra movement.

They aren't the best in the game, but they aren't really anything to complain about either.

>>54517060
Apart from some hiccups like stupid loadouts and lack of Haris/Duo the MRRF is solid. Loup-Garous are still some of the prettiest models in the game.

>>54517109
>>54516829
Metros are always good fill in. The infiltrating one with d-charges can be pretty nice, at worst it's another cheerleader and if you manage the infiltration roll, you have a cheap speed bumb with opportunity to do sabotage easily.

When is the Interplantery seminar supposed to be?

>>54519420
July 28-30

Source: looked it up on my favorite search engine

>>54519460
My favorite search engine is 4chan.

>>54519460
Wow a 3 day long seminar. Must has a ton of shit to share.
New MRRF dossiers confirmed.

>>54519618
No it would take only one day for anyone else but it has built in siestas.

>>54519618
I am expecting maybe 7 new mercenary sniper characters who have bloated close combat values and are available only to very specific sectorials. Also probably a Miyamoto Musashi support box, 4 new models (no new profile, obviously).

>>54519714
>>54519618
I should mention the actual conference with Bostria where they talk about the future releases of infinity is on the 29th

New guy here - I'm thinking about getting into the game and figuring out a faction. I looked at the faction rundown up top and am drawn to Yu Jing because of crazy CC and heavy inf. What's the downside?

>>54519991
CC skills up the price, while being rarely used.

>>54519751
>I should mention the actual conference with Bostria where they talk about the future releases of infinity is on the 29th

I have my hopes up for Nyan Miyamoto.

>>54520014
You are a bad player if you think CC is rarely used.

Why do they always want CC?

>>54519991
Downside? Downsides aren't that big. They used to be too skewed to CC where this is a shooting game, but that's been mitigated and they're more all comers and generally skilled models. The ones that are good in Close combat, are really good at it so as to justify the high risk getting in it.

Downsides are mechanically some BS lower than PanO and WIP lower than Haqqislam, pricey troops (because they can do multiple things like stab, tank hits, and shoot instead of just shoot) balanced out by some really neat cheap troops (Kuang Shi and Keisotsu).

Aesthetically some models at the core of the many lists are ugly varying levels of ugly and/or outdated depending on who you ask (Keisotsu, Kuang Shi, Karakuri, Guilang to name a few).

Another mechanical downside: no good sniper outside of mercenaries, just a bunch of highly debatable ones like Guilang, Tiger Soldiers, and Ninjas many of which with relatively low BS and are upped in price by skills that don't compliment a sniper like Airborne Deployment or Martial Arts.

On the other hand Multi-snipers are generally overcosted in SWC anyways and you don't really need them.

My biggest specific bone to pick with Yu Jing is that I can't get a Sophotect for ISS without buying a whole box with AI Beacons I don't need. I got a Spec-Ops model to work around it.

>>54520061
CC is best used to tie more expensive stuff with it. CC skills on expensive stuff is a deterrent for that, not to be actively engaged other than to show your big balls.

>>54520203
Lunah is actually pretty nice for Yu Jing. Yes I know she ain't no Nisse or Hexa, but for a sniper deprived faction like Yu Jing, she looks pretty good.

I also just bought the Spec Ops model. The Dactyl would probably also be fine and nobody would care.

>>54519991
Yu Jing is a faction that can do everything pretty decently at the cost of costing a little more sometimes. Unlike PanO, Yu Jing can warband spam out the ass. Unlike Haqqislam, we can deploy ridiculous invisible super soldiers. Unlike Ariadna, we can infiltrate powered armored troops with our camo operators. But we don't have the best shooting, we don't have the best WIP, and we don't have the best spam. We're super middle of the road. I like the access to so many strategies personally, also we still have a lot of very optimized units like the Raiden HRL.

Thanks for the Yu Jing feedback. So if I wanted to pick up a couple models to get a feel for modeling/painting what would be a good starting point of something that is essential or taken in most lists??

>>54520209
You must think the Speculos is too expensive.

>>54519751
I can't wait for all the things they're going to repack, give a new paintjob, and call it a new release.

>>54520424
Remotes Boxes. All of them are good, but the Weibing/Chayi/Husong box and the Rui Shi / Lu Duan box are my top suggestions.

The JSA Support Box for having doctors and engineers to heal up your precious troops and bots.

Zuyong HMG if you want an aggressive but durable Lt (leader for your troops).

Tiger Soldiers for the best Airborne Deployment troop.

Raiden HRL for supporting fire.


The Yu Jing Starter (or half of Red Veil with that ninja) is an ok start, although I'm not much a fan of the Multi-Rifle Zuyong and Zhanshi.

Hey what is the cheapest way to get a full table of terrain for this game?

>>54520808
paper printout buildings

>>54520808
IDK, three Moto.tronica type scenery packs?

Some creative foamcore and paper printouts?

Stealing everything from your FLGS?

>>54520722
Multi Zuyong stands in real well for the combirifle Zuyong, who can be a very tough FO or Paramedic. Not a bad LT option either.

Zhanshi are decent cheerleaders. Sure they aren't as cheap as Keisotsu, but their miniatures are brand new, easy to put together, and look great. Keisotsu are ancient and it is anybody's guess when they will get a resculpt.

>>54520879
>Multi Zuyong stands in real well for the combirifle Zuyong
Oh I agree, I was just suggesting based on strict WYSIWYG in case this person was so inclined (and less confused)

>easy to put together
That one male Zhanshi gave me the most trouble out of any random miniature.

>>54520475
>Current year
>Playing shasvastii
But yeah, the same principle applies- You generally want to tie her into CC with stuff that is much more expensive than her. Maybe even burn a couple orders to actually kill it.

>>54520976
>think you have to be playing a sectorial.

You don't use a Speculos to tie something up. You use her to cut something in half with monofiliment. You are wasting orders if you are trying to tie anything up.

>>54521072
>playing shasvastiis at all
Batok!

>>54520083
Because RULES OF NATURE

It's funny, I've been asked a few times IRL which faction is best at CC or what does CC look like.

>>54520808
if you still have your phone's box and don't use those can be made into neat modular terrain. they are sturdy and not too lightweight
with a bit of work the cardboard boxes in which many troops are packaged can also be painted to simulated walls or foundation for taller buildings
all else fails, grab some rocks from the highway

>>54521225
i have never been able to actually use my CC,
people know the Crane is good at it and retreat their softies as it approaches, which it ain't bad, i just wish i could squish something in CC every once in a while

It is almost like people don't know moving into CC with a camo Token on your active turn reveals it and you get an attack.

>>54521507
>CC with a camo Token on your active turn reveals it
No it doesn't.

http://infinitythewiki.com/en/Camouflaged
It's literally the second point describing the state. You can't enter B2B with a camo token. [The camo token can move B2B with you on their active turn to do a surprise attack though]

>>54521507
camo tokens have 360 degrees vision and can react to your approach even if you have stealth
not all of us have disposable Joes to play whack-a-mole with an ariadnan token army

>>54521596
Disposable Joes with Chain Rifles are the best way to deal with Camo spam.

<3 Intuitive fire.

>>54521473
Identify serious ARO threat. Smoke LGL a template directly on top of it, fingers crossed. Spend the turn shooting everyone else and finish by walking into the smoke and hitting the threat.

>>54521507
>moving into CC with a camo Token
I don't know what game you're playing, but it's not Infinity.

>>54521750
intuitive fire is a full order action
so you have to position your dude with a short order, then either attempt to reveal (and possibly take a shotgun template to the face) then do intuitive fire or just stand there (possibly eating the same shotgun template anyways) and if you live attempt intuitive fire
most of the time against camo spam is just better to cloak them in smoke and have you MSV 2-3 HMG whittle them down, or shove an explosive kuanshit or preta near them that will take them down even if they die

Will any vedors like GameNerdz do preorders of the Gencon bundle or am I required to buy it off of CB's site if I want the Intel Spec-Ops?

>>54522920
The gencon exclusives are only available through Interplanetary Tourney, Gencon, and through CB's store

>looking Wotan results
"Hmm, I wonder why Ariadna has hardly any points in Raxora..."
"Oh yeah, limited insertion."

How can't they play without resorting to spam?

>>54523595
Limited Insertion was a kneejerk reaction to Kurwa and is completely stupid and broken.
They should have tried fixing the game instead of slapping on a bandaid.

>>54523645

>Don't patch something
>Let it be busted until you have a perfect solution

>>54523645
>KURWAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>54523669
>Patch something
>It's still fucked
>"Oh well we tried time for siesta"
Just another day at Corvus Belli.

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how it feels when someone tries to kill your "fusilier lieutenant" but its really a knight using holoprojector...

Has anyone been having difficulty ordering from GameNerdz recently? I've been trying to pre-order a Beyond box, and each time I get to the credit info in check out, it tells me it can't accept that payment method. It's been doing that yesterday and today.

I'm going to be seriously fucking pissed if I can't get the box because of some stupid site error.

>>54524155
That's weird, I already pre-ordered, I used PayPal and had no problems

>>54524267
I've been trying credit, I don't have PayPal. It's basically telling me I can't use credit as a payment method at the moment. Not sure what to do at this point, because they'll all probably sell out before I can find a solution to the issue.

>>54524390
I'm actually having difficulties on other sites using my credit card.

Wouldn't be the first time card verification services gone wacky.

>>54520808
If you don't want to deal with the headache of full on DiY, the cheapest I've found of decent quality was Black Sheep Industries on Facebook(for US orders at least)...however they can be rather slow at times, like one month+ turn around. It goes back to that saying "Affordable, fast, quality - pick two".

Anyway, it's like $30 to get a decent table set up with scenery packs or $100 for a table set from black sheep.

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>>54519991
>Yu Jing because of crazy CC and heavy inf. What's the downside?
In addition to what other anons have said, YJ 101:
1) melee is very risky, not only because using it offensively is inefficient in order usage, it opens you to AROs, but also because melee is low burst and therefore can be unreliable. Infinity is still primarily a shooting game, so don't go too heavy on the melee.

2) Although a lot of troops in YJ are similar to Pan-O, they're generally slightly worse, either in terms of stats (only a few BS14 and no BS15), or equipment (MSV2 vs. 3, for instance). YJ compensates by having more reliable synergy (smoke, 3 sensors all on useful units, cheap and cheerful REM compliment, exploding hugging zombies, etc.) rather than hard counters.

>>54525248
MSV3 is overcosted. Hsien>Aquila

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>>54526156
Aquila is BS15, PH14, WIP13, MSV3 for 62 points for the HMG version.

Hsien is -1 BS, +1 WIP, MSV2, MA1 for 61 points. Now, yes, having courage/stealth and a nanopulsar is quite nice, but 1 point more to upgrade from BS14 to 15 in addition to the benefits of MSV3 is overcosted?

to be honest, I often find the Hsien too expensive and just use a Rui Shi instead

>>54526273
Between MA L1 and the benefits of MSV3 I'd pick MA every time. Fuck Hackers.

Also not just getting fucked by a warband jumping at you is nice. Having a template, good melee, and slightly better WIP for resets is great.

>>54523645
>t. Ariadna player

I'd like some input on the two lists I'll be taking to Gencon this year, I honestly dont get a chance to play a bunch so I'm mainly up there to have fun but I'd rather not get just completely slaughtered

Gencon 1
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GROUP 1 10
ALGUACIL Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 18)
ALGUACIL (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
ALGUACIL (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
ALGUACIL HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 18)
ALGUACIL Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 15)
INTRUDER Lieutenant Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, Grenades / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 35)
INTRUDER HMG, Grenades / Pistol, CCW. (1.5 | 42)
WILDCAT Engineer Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
DAKTARI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
TOMCAT Combi Rifle + E/Mitter, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)

GROUP 25
SEÑOR MASSACRE Breaker Combi Rifle, E/M Grenades, Eclipse Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW, E/M CCW. (0 | 29)
JAGUAR Adhesive Launcher, Panzerfaust / Pistol, DA CCW. (0.5 | 13)
JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 10)
JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 10)
REAKTION ZOND HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 26)

6 SWC | 300 Points

[url=http://army.infinitythegame.com/index.html?l=KwBgTAPgzCIQ4gUwHYGMD2yAEBGCOBSAFigA4CdhSiCBCQk8y04Ohsiq1+4j5kNryZUodVkSJgKANhwB2McUkycNWqIkCc0kIXobQMknTACiwBduBTaUkgE5OpRwAEw46VO2e2DIk2kiPRw/AKIBelCjCMpiayNWFxcgA===]Open in Infinity Army

>>54522920
>am I required to buy it off of CB's site if I want the Intel Spec-Ops
yes
unless you wanna wait a few months for the non-LE Grunt Intel

>>54526583
Gencon 2
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GROUP 1 10
LUPE BALBOA Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, Panzerfaust, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 23)
ALGUACIL Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
ALGUACIL Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 18)
ALGUACIL Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
ALGUACIL (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
CLOCKMAKER Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18)
ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
IGUANA HMG, Heavy Flamethrower / . (2 | 71)
IGUANA OPERATOR HMG / Pistol, Knife. ()
WILDCAT Lieutenant Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 19)
WILDCAT (Fireteam: Haris) Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 20)
WILDCAT Heavy Rocket Launcher / Assault Pistol, Knife. (2 | 20)

GROUP 23 / 1
REAKTION ZOND HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 26)
JAGUAR Light Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, E/M CCW. (0 | 13)
JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 10)
BANDIT Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Light Shotgun, Adhesive Launcher / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 25)

6 SWC | 300 Points

[url=http://army.infinitythegame.com/index.html?l=KwBgTAPgzCIQ4gUwHYGMD2yAEkxgKQAswAnPgIwBswl+AhOUVABwXADsZDTr5wzheo0Is2zWtxG9+wIQUKEyVQgTpgQRDhWqr2RBdrCy6UfRqohTJs/jAlyjawvOlWAAT6aCy4w/29KKC4/BQDCDToyBVo7PHw3NyA==]Open in Infinity Army

Can I have my Lucien in ISS disguise himself as an ABH and form a fireteam duo with Miranda Ashcroft to move the two of then upfield efficiently then suddenly have them break off and fuck face?

>>54526273
That's more the Rui Shi being amazing and cheap rather than the Hsien being bad. Whenever I take the Hsien with his Celestial Guard sidekick gal, he mops up. It's just that the Rui Shi is a steal for 20 points.

>>54526623
No, Holoprojector doesn't let you break rules. Sforza doesn't have Fireteam duo, so he can't form a duo with Miranda.

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>>54513071
The Tech Dee?

>>54526273
Hsien is stealth, and has smoke in vaction. This is huge.
Also, Hsien has superior loadout options such as LTs with HMGs. Aquila's very plain and lost options in the transition to N3. Nanopulser is very useful and comes in handy by itself at least as much as the extra point of BS.

Does anyone have that image of the tunguska spoilers Bostria or someone gave to a winner of some tournament?

Like it had Kriza Boracs, Hollow men, Nauticazonds, Puppetactica, etc on it, and I'm trying to remember the 'etc'. tiy

>>54513071
The male is a drone, so probably the crabbot.

>>54529185

Yes.

>>54496689
I'm waiting for both Varuna and Tunguska to be released so I'm happy with both sides.

>>54523856
doesn't the knight have a higher WIP then the fusa? So the opponent should always know that the Fusa can never be the Lt.

>>54530834
Lieutenant WIP isn't public information, just the results of the Lieutenant roll. If you pass on a 12 or less, they won't know.

>>54529452
crapbot*

>>54529564
I'm considering to sculpt one myself.

Starting up Caledonia, there's a nice bit of berserk skill in there.

So I was wondering if I'm right to think if I declare a CC attack with berserk modifier, and my opponent declares dodge, assuming we both succeed, he will disengage but still take the hit? Or do I miss regardless?

>>54531833
Since they are both normal rolls he still takes the hit and must roll ARM. His dodge isn't avoiding anything but disengaging him at the end of the order.

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>>54528492

>>54534154
I don't think that's what "opening the third eye" means.

>>54534154
>>54534481
Otherwise not bad. Interesting choice of colours.

>>54534481
LOL. Yeah, I did mess up a bit and accidentally paint her eyelid. When I noticed it I was afraid to attempt to fix it as it's not exactly notable at a distance and I could possibly accidentally leave the eyes not that visible. I'm not expecting to win any reward for her, just kind of wanted her "done" because I felt like I bought her by accident and want to use her to proxy an Odalisque for QK.

>>54534501
Thanks, I was going on something different from the rest. A glow-in-the-dark theme as Scorpions usually do.

Big update in the RPG previews folder. Updated version of the core book, and added previews of the Players Guide and Collectors Edition. PG has the Agent Handler, RPG mini stats (one of whom is Colonel Voronin), and Tabletop Conversion Rules. CE has the Mission Architect.

>>54530834
this is possibly true if I roll a 12 or 14, higher than what >>54530856 had pointed out.

Even then, the shell game is fun and my holo knight can still be some one else in my list.

Oh that Order Sergeant paramedic who's going to the objective?.... NOPE!

>>54535872
dammit I meant "13 or 14"
its way too early in the morning for me..

I checked the tournament results and it seems like Panoceania is the best army to pick right now. If I would want to play it at 200-300pts, what stuff besides the starter sets and the beyond box should I be buying?

>>54536504
>I checked the tournament results and it seems like Panoceania is the best army to pick right now.
Souce?

>>54526273
MSV 3 isn't what it used to be. It's effective +3 BS on the first roll of an exchange with a camo marker. Once the surprise shot is over, so are the benefits. Which means it only works when your opponent is actively trying to hunt the Aquilia with the same things the Aquilia is optimised for killing. It's gone from being a game changing megaskill to a situational mini boost.

>>54534900
When is it coming out?

>>54536504
Epic bait, dude. Well done.
Here's a second (You), just in case.
Now fuck off.

goddamn i love this game

>>54537763
But are you in love with the game?

>>54538753
I'm not ready to love again.

>>54536504
I'd buy the Neoterra starter, the Beyond box directs you towards that sectorial anyway.