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"Ravi Sengir PW When?" Edition

Previous >>54496923

RESOURCES

>Official Site: Contains deck building rules and the current ban list.
http://www.mtgcommander.net

>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck’s strategy and card choices.
http://www.tappedout.net

>Another resource for commander discussion; they have an entire forum dedicated to discussing decks. People often make primers, which go into detail about how they built and play their deck.
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the the internet.
http://www.edhrec.com/

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen Commander’s color identity.
http://manabasecrafter.com/

CARD SEARCH

>Official search site. Current for all sets.
http://gatherer.wizards.com/

>Unofficial, but has GOAT search interface.
http://magiccards.info/

Thread Question:
You have to play a commander from Legends or Homelands. Who is it and why?
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>>54503092
>You have to play a commander from Legends or Homelands. Who is it and why?
I play the sexiest man in magic against crawwurm metas
heavy swamp matters theme
spend that mana on massive black creatures that have really bad drawbacks

its a fun deck
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>>54503092
>You have to play a commander from Legends or Homelands. Who is it and why?

Is this supposed to be a challenge?
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>>54503196
Best friend.
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>>54503092
Gwendolyn di Corsi, because I already have a Gwendolyn deck.
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>>54503092
>You have to play a commander from Legends or Homelands. Who is it and why?
foolsdemise.dec incoming
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>>54503152
Soraya, falcon tribal MLD
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>>54503092
>You have to play a commander from Legends or Homelands. Who is it and why?

Considering I'm starting on that right now, my boy Dakkon Blackblade
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>>54503261
Excellent taste.
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Griffon commander when
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hard choice or do i just have shit taste?
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>>54503297
>Forgetting this majestic motherfucker
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>>54503328
>Gabriel
Kinda shit for a 7-drop that only has one keyword at a time. Rampage 3 could be funny though
>Boris
Cool if you wanna do a demon tribal thing
>Johan
Giving all your dudes vigilance is cool. Could be cool with Exert
>Hazezon
A pretty cool dude but not worth $40+

Out of all those I'd probably run Boris.
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>>54503448
>kinda shit for a N drop
legends in a nutshell
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>>54503492
The impression I had is that the oldest editions have for the most part really shitty creatures while having some of the strongest enchantment/sorceries etc of the game
Is that actually true or it's just that the only ones that are remembered are the best ones, while the bad/normal ones, that compromised 90% of the total, are just forgotten?
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>>54503092
Because I have a thing for vikings.

Plane based on norse mythology when?
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Thread question: adun oakenshield, great art, useable ability
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>>54503582
>Because I have a thing for vikings.
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>>54503625
>not wanting to get fucked by ragnar

Wew.
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>>54503644
>wanting to be the conquered not the conquerer
boy u is really gay
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>>54503661
Just you wait til I conquer you.
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>>54503691
>swing with zur
>annex my land back
pssh nothing personal kid
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>>54503724
>converted mana cost 3 or less
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>>54503775
oh
wait
why do people complain about zur then?
even competitive tables play him as doomsday + necropotence
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>>54503808
There are quite a lot of real nice CMC 3 enchantments.
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>>54503808
>why do people complain about degenerate lines of play?
Also Oblivion Ring and Grasp of Fate. Just to start.
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>>54503835
yeah but its still a 4cmc creature with summoning sickness
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>>54503861
>playing zur before you have protection or a combo ready to go
Wew lad
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Alright chums, I'm scrapping Slobad and building Karn out of the remains.

Gimme some tasty colorless tech
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>>54503860
>degenerate lines of play
turn 5 necropotence
turn 4 is you have some ramp
turn 3 if you have a shitload of ramp

idk I guess im not seeing it as much of a threat as say narset as far as non-competitive tables go
I remember I was going to build zur but I was pretty much told by my playgroup that they wouldnt play against an auto win legend like him
idk
doenst seem that table flippingly good to me
I play some cEDH but never see him played im sure esper is a good color combo but I cant imagine the deck playing more than mystic remora, grasp and necro
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>>54503908
All is Dust
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>>54503907
I guess the point is that hes not mega fast
any deck that isnt that fast can be fought against
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>>54503926
Ayyyyy I got one of those

Luckily I got it before it cranked up in price
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>>54503937
You really only need a handful of enchantments with Zur, the rest of the deck can just be fast mana, counterspells, and removal.
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>>54503926
Oblivion Stone too because of how easy it is to recur even though it blows up your own stuff.
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>>54504074
I just dont see how thats worse than narset
im pretty familiar with playing against narset and even that deck isnt impossible to play against
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>>54503924
The idea is that he doesn't do lots of things in a mediocre way, he does one thing extremely fucking well. Narset is worse by way of costing 6, and not being in particularly great tutor colors

A well-built Zur is blisteringly fast
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>>54504099
Because Narset costs 2 more mana in worse colors and has a chance of giving you nothing. Jeleva and Zur are both faster in better colors with more options to hit.
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>>54503092
This guy. How has no one picked him yet?
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>group asks me to tone down Dralnu because it's way too fucking fast for the group
>Drop some power cards, add more interactive stuff and jank
>still win by drawing off an empty library with a LabMan out
They're definitely going to kill me one of these days
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>>54504111
well shit now I really want to play against one because I know my stax deck isnt good enough to go against full doomsday zur lists but maybe its good enough to go against enchantment zur
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>>54503092
I'm gonna go with the only on I actually own and my favorite color combination.
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Tier 1 - Sultai, Grixis, Abzan
Tier 2 - Esper, Temur, Bant
Tier 3 - Jund, Mardu, Jeskai
Tier 4 - Naya
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>>54504190
>now I really want to play against one
You don't. Doomsday Ad Nauseam Zur will absolutely steamroll over anything else that isn't tier 1.

I played against one with my Alesha hatebears deck, which gets a lot of wins in my regular group but isn't super optimized, this past weekend and got completely annihilated
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>>54504243
>Abzan and Grixis better than Bant, Temur, and Esper
Nope. Anything with Simic is already top tier and Esper is pure bullshit.
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>>54503092
>>54504311
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>>54504420
Shit alter
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>>54504428
>glorious alter comrade
ftfy
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>>54503261

>Mentions Plains, Waves, and Mountains
>Not WUR

There are a ton of things I would do ignite I could travel through time, and this would be one of them.
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Running Panoramas in a monocolor artifact deck to let me shuffle and maybe tutor up extra colored mana: Ok or shit? I figure they're slightly better than fetches here since I can drop them and still get colorless mana (which most of the deck needs) without needing to do the shuffle early.
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>>54503092
Haha, OP, you seemed to have forgotten the Discord info. Here it is:

/tg/ EDH General Discord
https://discord.gg/UE9Vqzu

Don't beat yourself up about it though. Just try to be less forgetful next time.
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Already got it.
I get to fuck with everyone's hands while looking at one of the best RFK art MTG.
A Dream come true, too bad I can't grab a Legends one without international shipping.
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>>54504788
Is he any good?
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>>54504881
>>54504788
He is not that great

but he has amazing art
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>>54504190
No you fucking don't
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>>54504788
I am jealous. Got a list?
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Infect deck, golgari or sultai? Whats the best commander for it?

This will be for french
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>>54505092
>This will be for french
???
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I'm actually curious about how the vamp precon turns out. Because for my inexperienced knowledge, it feels like Marchesa 1.0 is a solid commander for Vamp tribal, because it seems like vamps want +1/+1 counters and the blue splash could help with the card draw and potentially making things unblockable so I want to see if White can bring anything good as well other than Sorin.

Speaking of, Marchesa 1.0 and Mikaeus seem really strong together. Whatever dies that doesn't have a counter comes back with a counter, and whatever dies with one Marchesa brings back.
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>>54505092
if i had to make an infect deck for duel commander, i'd build monoB skithiryx and just spam hand disruption and stax, then use skithiryx as a finisher

but frankly i have no idea how duel commander works
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>>54505092
Saskia. Get her out and your opponent has 5 life.
>>54505107
Duel Commander, also known as French. It's a 1v1 banlist.
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>>54505133
This is actually a good idea, skittles and discard with targeted removal and hexproof gear, wont even need creatures, taste the rainbow
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>>54505092
Sidar Kondo + Silas Renn
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How often does your meta "take back" or reset turns? I'm talking about casting a spell and it resolves but then you play a second card that happens to combo with the original and they attempt to turn back to before the first spell resolves to counter it? I play with a group of shitters who try to do this too often
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>>54505107
Bonjour!
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>mfw learning about the Karn-Nim Deathmantle interaction
That's so fucking sick. I'm really excited to build this deck now and abuse the shit out of that combo
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>>54505130
Ixalan has white vampires it seems so you get those, and you get access to whites removal and buff spells so it might work out more. W has better tokens than U if you've got a lot of sac vamps.
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>>54505441
Whats the interaction
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>>54505464
>animate noncreature artifact with Karn
>said artifact (now artifact creature) dies somehow
>Nim Deathmantle triggers since a creature died
>pay 4 to bring back the artifact
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>>54505380
I have had that happen only once, with Geralf's Messenger in my Ghave.
But some retards backpedal on their spells a lot, since they can't apparently watch what's on the battlefield. For example, one Animar player consistently plays into Goblin Sharpshooter and always wants to backpedal. He's like 40+ and can't even bother to learn, expecting that everyone will bend to his will.
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>>54505486
>nim deathmantle reanimates creatures

Did you just learn the game today?
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Whats the stupidest combo you can think of /edhg/?
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>>54505672
One that doesn't work
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>>54505672
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>>54505714
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>>54505539
>Geralf's Messenger in my Ghave
Ah, a fellow man of taste
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>>54505672
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>>54505672
Endrek sahr+assault suit

Nobody ever wins a game again EVER
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>>54505380
I've only seen takebacks in the situation of "Oh shit, I couldn't actually have done that" when it's noticed a little later that somebody miscounted their mana. Usually, it's the person who miscounted who points it out, too. I've been that person, and lost track of the fact I had green, yes, but not double green
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>>54505714
Can someone explain it to me? I don't understand how this should work
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>>54505672
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>owe a friend a lot of pizza + beer money from EDH nights
>asks me to pay him back with cards for his Shattergang deck
>buy him a bunch of shit
>accidentally turn the deck into an unholy stax nightmare

I've made a terrible mistake
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>>54505858
Going to need a list for personal reasons
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>>54503251
>foolsdemise.dec incoming
Never heard of this card before.
The fucking synergy tho.
Fuck.
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>>54505714

I chuckled.
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>>54503092
>You have to play a commander from Legends or Homelands. Who is it and why?
Baron Sengir, because fuck you and everything you stand for.
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cards you love but don't have a home for
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>>54505963
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>>54505809
Check the filename.
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>>54505714
Oh holy shit
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>>54505992
I've seen it, that's why I'm asking. I can see that the bottom two cards can make you lose half your life+5 (and even more if you keep using Murderous Betrayal's effect), but I don't see how the two top cards would interact with the other two
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>>54505963
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>>54505714
Okay, you got me.
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>>54503551
Every edition until nu-Magic tended to have stronger spells and artifacts than creatures. It was much more pronounced back then.
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>>54506068
When did "nu-Magic" start?
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>>54506034
Bruh
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>>54506068
Artifacts have never quite been figured out though, in terms of balance. Something always goes awry
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>>54506034
I can't help you here anon.
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Recently added him to my Intet deck and I've been honestly impressed with how versatile he is. Actually thinking about ordering some more.
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>>54506142
order me one I don't want to look at tcg, I'll spend too much money again
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Poll:
When you think "Land destruction EDH" What commander do you think of?
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>>54506160
Post your CC information and address.
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>>54506186
Archangel Avacyn.
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>>54506186
something boros
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>>54506186
Riku of the two bullshit
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>>54506186
jhoira, because i wouldn't run it in anything else
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>>54506186
Probably Numot. He's only commander that actually destroys lands. Other than that, probably Narset
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>>54506186
Zurgo
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>>54506205
Why archangel? She only gives creatures indestructible for a turn, not permanents forever. And even if she could, you'd be paying 9 mana to bring her in then a 4 mana armageddon.
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Just got all three HOU gods in the mail. Which should I build?
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>>54506381
scorpion god, and tell me how you do it.
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>>54506034
It's Loss. The comic.
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>>54506346
Because you're thinking of Armageddon. I'm thinking of Worldslayer.
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>>54506381
Fuck them, build Glissa or RG Wort
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>>54506099
>>54506391
Yep, time to go to sleep, I couldn't connect the dots at all
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>>54505744
Doesn't one of the tamiyos die from planeswalker rule?
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>>54506388
I too am curious about Scorpion God
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>>54506477
It's irrelevant since you already have the emblem.
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>>54506477
Moon Sage dies, but you still get the Emblem.
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>>54506142
Yeah he is pretty good. High mana cost and not "cEDH" worthy but strong and playable everywhere else.
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>>54506528
>>54506388

Incoming spicy tech for the Scorpion God.
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>>54506701
>obvious autoinclude
>spicy tech
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>>54504420
Way to fuck up that purph
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How do you pronounce "Ixalian" ? eye-ecksalian?
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>>54506761
Its officially "icks uhlahn"
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>>54506761
*ixalan
And I think its Icks-uh-lahn
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>>54506761
Ayy-lmao tribal confirmed, stop the press
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>>54505714
I understood that reference
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>>54506388
Scorpion God Pillowfort :^)
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>>54506761
I think it's EE-shu-lon or something if you go by real-world pronunciation, but official is ICKS-uh-lon, because nobody is going to know better.
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>rashmi players
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>>54505714
I lost to this combo pretty bad once.
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>>54506879
explain
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>>54506879
>not playing during every turn of the game
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>>54506853
Scorpion_god.dec boner rising
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>>54506528
Archfiend of Infir, tons of hand discard effects. Constant hand manipulation like Oppression and Sire of Insanity.
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>>54506853
>the ride never ends
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>>54506440
don't feel bad dude i have no idea what these children are talking about. even when they revealed the reference i had to look it up.
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>>54506865
>real-world pronunciation
what
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>>54506971
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>>54505963
if i can find one for trade or at my lgs i think i'm just gonna shove it in my grenzo deck even though it has no synergy at all.
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>>54507046
>tfw shoved some shitty angels in my teysa deck just because I liked the art

Atleast deathpact angel fits flavorwise..
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>>54507046
Grab a Ramunap Excavator and build that Gitfrog.
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>>54507046
Mono black land destruction
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>>54507046
Gitgud toad
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>>54505441
Karn is just fun as fuck. So much weird shit you can do with that ability of his.
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>>54506879
>>54506899
>not playing a semi-flavorful artifact deck that isn't based around shitting spells out on literally every turn, but still runs a nice enough counterspell package to keep the Timmies from fapping too hard in public
>Not knowing the pleasure of having five Panharmonicons thanks to all your cloning shenanigans
>Or three Myr Battlesphere ETBs
>Mechanized Production can just win out of nowhere with thopters, or be used for value in extra-casual
>ywn Rewind into Shardless Agent into Mana Crypt, countering somebody's shit and leaving you mana-positive for the next turn
>ywn drop a Whirler Rouge with multiple Panharmonicons out and an Inspiring Statuary, giving you an absolute assfuck of mana
>ywn win with Mechanized Production on a Phyrexian Metamorph cloning a fucking Goat Token because you had rite of rep, trading post, a fuckload of mana, and basically nothing else
>ywn get nothing but shitty fucking lands on your topdeck

Pros and cons. It's not perfect, but it's fun as hell.
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https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/710487#online

any spicy tech i missed?
he seems like the most fun u/w commander
fun for me and the table that is
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>>54507151
>>54507263
yeah that seems fun

okay i will
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how many creatures is enough in a tribal deck?
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>>54507539
>mfw drakes AND dragons are separate creature types

this game is a shitshow
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>>54507028
Based on mesoamerican pronunciation, because that's what Ixalan is inspired by. I don't fucking know, that's just what I've read.
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>>54507619
Drakes and Dragons have been separate forever.
What you should be up in arms about is KTK introduced Nagas and AMK Jackals.
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>>54507683
mfw the add Lamias as well
fuck this game
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>>54507751
Are there even any other lamias?
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>>54507573
all of them
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>>54507855
>Are there even any other lamias?
no.

lamia, wombat, sponge, sable, pest, mole, ferret, dreadnaught, and brushwagg all only have one card to represent their tribe.
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>>54504301

Doomsday ad Nauseam zur doesn't even cast zur but once in a blue moon
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>>54508068
I wish uncle istvan was a creature type.
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>>54508068
>an alternate reality where sponge tribal exists
One day, anon. One day.
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>>54508068
Extra half-card to pest, Nuisance Engine can make pest tokens.
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>>54506186
Personally, Mizzix of the Ixmagus.
Its mostly because mine is designed to grind people down over a long game, and well timed Day of Ruins and Wake of Destructions tend to do that.
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>dislike UG players in general
>look over my decks and realize 2 of them have UG in the color identity
>just never noticed because those decks were UB and RG respectively before i splashed new colors to keep them interesting
>the newest deck brew, although a gimmicky build, is UG as well

i've become what i hate

i just like value plays and easy mana fixing too much
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>>54504161
that was my first edh deck, it was a control/artifact ramp deck. I had a lot of fun with it, used to get shit like clockwork dragon and darksteel colossus
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>>54503908
Extraplanar Lens. Nobody else at the table is going to have Wastes.
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>>54503092
>You have to play a commander from Legends or Homelands. Who is it and why?
nope, shit cards aside from like 1 which is out of my price range for a single card
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>sit down with new group
>break out Sydri
>other guys start looking at each other nervously
>they're running Kurkesh, GB Glissa and Muzzio
>we decide to just roll with it and face the consequences of a table full of potentially broken artifacts

All-artifacts EDH was probably one of the more insane games I've played. Kurkesh is a secret combo machine
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So what defines a colored permanent? lands are never colored permanents, even stuff like crypt of agadeem?(I know it's black identity but I'm told it's colorless) what about fire diamond? red identity but not colored? just need to be sure.
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>>54508936
>Esper artifacts
>Red artifacts
>Golgari artifacts
>Blue artifacts
God I wish I could have seen that game.
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>>54504420
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>>54509031
MY KINGDOM FOR A SHATTERING PULSE
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>>54509025
-colored mana symbol(s) in mana cost
and/or
-color indicator (the dot in the typeline)
make a permanent colored.

Lands have no mana cost, so they are colorless. Crypt of Agadeem has a black color identity because it has a black symbol in its ability text. Fire Diamond works similarly.
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>>54506388
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/scorpion-control/
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>>54504420
One of the best alters I've seen. Like, I'm still anti-alter but at least there's some goddamn creativity and an execution that matches that vision.
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>>54506294
Only correct answer
>>
can I add in a card that creates tokens that are not of my commanders color identity? Such as Akroan Horse in a UG deck, or westvale abbey in a mono black?
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>>54508618
RG is silly when the stars align and your ramp goes through the roof.

t. running at least 1 RG deck since I started
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>>54509059
that image lmao
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>>54509278
Yes, the only restriction is on the card itself. For example ormendhal cant go into a white deck because hes black but he can go into a monoB because hes black.
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>>54508936
I kind of want to build Glissa. Seems like there's a ton of cheap artifacts with a Golgari color identity that look like a good time.

Also the Mindslaver lock.
>>
Anyone have a 5 color wall edh deck? how do you like it?
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Did a really fast prossh -1 tribal with both scorp and hapatra
anything to add?

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/prossh-1-1-tribal/
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>>54504182
Any man that plays dralnu deserves to win
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>>54509482
>Prossh
Outside of the obvious includes there's almost nothing you can throw in there to make him bad unless you're deliberately trying to lose.
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>>54507675

Marky boy confirmed that it is "icks-uh-lon," because they were disregarding its linguistic roots to be more accessible.
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>>54509031
It was nuts. There was at least 1 Lattice on the table at all times.

Kurkesh won by managing to resolve a Thoughts of Ruin after making infinite mana and drawing his entire library, then dropped Conflagrate for a fuckbillion. Kurkesh and those old-ass red color hate instants let him counter a ton of shit that we threw at him, it was nuts.
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>>54509432
there really isn't a 5 color commander that makes sense for walls unless your whole plan is to stall out and drop progenitus
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>>54509514
>Kurkesh
Kozilek, I mean. The new one. That guy is super fucking good, being able to gas up on his cast AND counter spells in any color is ridiculous.
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>>54509589
Both Kozileks are fucking monsters, assuming you've the dosh to actually build around them.
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>>54503092
Haha, OP, you seemed to have forgotten the Discord info. Here it is:

/tg/ EDH General Discord
https://discord.gg/4f4gz

Don't beat yourself up about it though. Just try to be less forgetful next time.
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>>54509634
I got my older copy of kozilek at a garage sale, in near mint condition worth/10
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>>54509667
that invite is expired anon, send new one I want to join
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>>54509634
I run the old one in Titania, but I'm thinking about moving him to another deck. I don't have the new one but after that crazy-ass counter war I fucking want one.
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>>54509677
Kozilek himself is probably the cheapest part of the deck famalam.
Good luck getting that mana crypt from a garage sale.
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>>54508618
It's your responsibility to keep Simic fresh. Play Kraj, Ezuri or Vorel instead of Momir Vig cancer and you'll be fine.
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>>54507046
I have it in my alesha. bring it back early and it may steal a game
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>>54509738
youd be surprised what you can find in upscale neighborhood garage sales, I found 3 quicksilver amulets, and a doublign cube in one alone
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Currently building Feldon and Samut (which will be based around infinite combats).

Out of Dracogenius, Zur, and Locust God, who should I build next? I have a bad habit of making stompy/aggro style decks, so I'm looking for something different.
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>>54509692
I've generated this one especially 4 u

/tg/ EDH General Discord
https://discord.gg/4youf4g
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>>54509776
>Momir Vig
>cancer
>Ezuri
>not cancer
Anon.
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>>54509848
Definitely Dracogenius. You can really explore U/R without defaulting to spellslinger or goodstuff.
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>>54509848
Locust God is just a bad Nig-mizzet.
Zur is almost as swingy as Esper gets, if that's what you're looking to avoid.
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>>54509863
>invalid or expired
Not that I wanted to join anyways.
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>>54510179
you are one gullible son of a bitch
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>>54510195
>the speed of that reply
And you are one lonely man.
>>
What's a good commander to play for a Chaos deck? I'm thinking either Grixis or Izzet.
>>
Should I build Edric? He seems cool, and my group tends to like both creature-based decks and card draw. My only worry is the politics, which both I and my group suck at, they're of the Windmill Slam school of politics.
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>>54509432
Doran or Progenitus are your best options, although I remember seeing a custom 5C wall commander that I can't for the life of me find an image of.
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>>54510288
Arjun is great for making chaos of your own hand, but Melek is probably better.
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>opponent drops Grip of Chaos and Possibility Storm
>same player has nothing in their deck to take advantage of chaos cards
>sit through 2 hour game

If you have a chaos deck, kill yourself. You ruin the game.

pic related: this dude while building his deck
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>>54510288
Red and blue are chaos central, but the other colors have plenty to offer and crazy stuff like naked singularity requires 5C. I'm planning to just slap Karona on as my commander and call it a day.
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>>54510376
>guy at table has Animar "grouphug"
>tell everyone not to fall for his lies
>an hour in he """""Accidentally""""" shits his whole deck onto the field and Carterhoofs
>"Whoops guys, guess I got lucky xDDDD"
As someone who enjoys playing grouphug, I rarely see any BRG deck that wasn't inheritly degenerate.
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>>54510376
Chaos is fun once in a while I'd say. I generally reserve it for that special friend who plays a whole bunch of degenerate shit.
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>>54510207
I've entertained someone other than myself :)
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>>54510545
>the speed of THAT reply
Brush up on your paint skills, son.
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>broke out new Hidetsugu deck tonight
>not doing much of anything
>chucklefuck playing Narset gets a funny look in his eye
>crack Command Beacon, bring up Hidetsugu, activate Sneak Attack
>pop Hidetsugu, play Overblaze in response
>flip Fortune Thief

>instant Archenemy the rest of the night
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>>54510510
>BRG
how nu r u?
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>>54510590
can confirm I'm not discord fag, I just enjoy seeing people be retarded
>>
So /edh/ Mono Red decks.

Caged Sun?
Is it worth a card slot, in a non artifact deck? Or is it so slow and "big dumb robot"-ish that I should cut it?
>>
How to get to untap with low-costs generals? I don't think I've ever stuck Riku without people insta-shitting on him until he costs like 15.
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>>54510713
I'd say yes. What other mana rocks are you playing?
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>>54510348
He's certainly fun, very strong though regardless of politics
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>>54510713
G A U N T L E T
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>>54510713
gauntlet of might
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>>54510724

I bide my time until there are bigger threats or make sure I have enough protection to make it to untap. Eventually I'll have enough mana to instantly use him too.
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Okay, so I don't know why yet, but can I use Command Beacon and have my commander move from the Command Zone to the Command Zone?
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>>54510772
why would he want to spend 150?
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>>54510800
Because it's one of the top 5 cards for mono-red EDH

Seriously that card is insane, I doubted it too until I actually tried it
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>>54510821
I don't doubt it's power. I doubt the fact that hi might want to spend $150.
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>>54510740
Thran Dynamo, Sol Ring, Hedron Archive, Mind Stone.
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>>54510800
>he doesn't have 3 jobs to support his MtG habit
It's a Caged Sun for 2 less in Mono Red.
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Alright friends I need some help. My group is all about creatures,but I am not. I want to appease my group a little bit and build a creature-centric deck that can still pull play like a combo deck, any suggestions? I was looking at Alesha, since cheating stuff into play is always fun
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>>54510870
see >>54510863
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>Just started throwing together eight new decks in various states of completion

Send help
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>>54510869
>4 fucking rocks
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>>54510923
not him, but every mana rock I include makes me feel like I'm tearing out part of my soul. They are so fucking boring
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>>54510891
Protean Hulk with literally anything
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>>54510863
Shit, go with Gauntlet of Power then

But if you're going to play Big Red EDH there's really no substitute for Might, just like there's really no worthy substitute for Wheel of Fortune
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>>54510942
It's a part of playing mono-red. You need all the help you can get.
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>>54510891
Saffi Eriksdottir or Karador.
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>>54510942
He doesn't play tons of Mana rocks and turn them into an army

Father is disappointed.
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>>54510923
Well I could add things like Commanders Sphere or things worse than the original 4, but the Sac Draw a card thing and commanders color are INCREDIBLY useless in Mono Red, and I am not running an artifact centered deck, so that leaves out all of the "tap for X, then use clock of omens to do it again" mana rocks...
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>>54511000
Do you have Nykthos in your deck?
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>>54511000
Who are you running as a commander?
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>>54511024
>>54511026
Yes, and Neheb the Eternal
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>>54505714
Oh shit.
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>>54505672
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>>54511156
What's your payoff? Are you just trying to drop big creatures or spells with big mana?
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How would I go infinite with this? The white mana source is irrelevant; just untaps.
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>>54510063
>ezuri
>cancer

Git gud, he values out weenies and wins in the combat step if you don't run removal and interaction you deserve to be steamrolled

T. Ezuri player in a sac heavy meta
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>>54511852
Retreat to Coralhelm
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>>54511250
Fuckin' Bear Tribal when.
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>>54510713
Not worth
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>>54510288
You think chaos will be fun, build a deck, and quickly realize it's not. Everyone goes through this. Do yourself a favour Anon, and skip to step three.
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>>54512055
Pair with Angry Omnath or Rampaging Baloths for big green beats.
>>
I kind of want to try and use Bontu anyone have any ideas?
>>
>>54504161
... Rasputin prison deck here I come.
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>>54512567
was actually looking at something like this or valakut. omnath teaches math fits my deck as well
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>>54512565
Chaos is fun like once every 6 months when you play with friends and want to mess around for a few hours.

If you want a playable game, chaos is absolutely shit tier. It's just a selfish archetype and it feels like playing a Planechase game with all the shittiest planes.
>>
>>54510869
>no Ruby Medallion
>no Gilded Lotus
>no Mind Stone
I can understand not getting Mana Crypt and other expensive rocks but goddamn
>>
>>54513137
>no Mind Stone
Meant Thought Vessel, I still have to get my coffee
>>
As someone who gets a good laugh out of my friends being angry with me. Would Narset be a good commander?
>>
>>54510942
Thats why you run bludgeon brawl, beat people to death with mana rocks, tap rocks for mana anyways.
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>>54506186
Minna and Denn
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>>54513482
Yes
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>buy Open Hostility because it was $20 below MSRP when I bought it
>play a few games of EDH, have fun then shelve it while focusing more on modern
>play group starts getting into EDH
>get other friends into magic via EDH
>decide to try to make try enchantress saskia
>find I never cast saskia and I never win games
>have a bunch of green/white/red enchantment stuff with a couple of black cards like phyrexian arena/black market

so do you guys think that Marath or Gahiji is the more interesting enchantment commander? Gahiji seems more politics which could make for more fun games but Marath seems stronger
>>
>>54513803
Try looking into Uril the Miststalker.
>>
>>54514055
Uril might be the least interesting general in the format that isn't a vanilla one from Legends.
>>
>>54513803
naya has really weak commanders in general. marath is basically the only good one, and it's more of a bullshit combo machine

you could always use partners
>>
Anyone here knows when we can expect amonkhet/hour draft in mtgo? besides leagues i mean
>>
>>54513803
Gut the deck and rebuild it as a brutal Infect deck. Saskia is bonkers for that.
>>
>>54514673
Which three colors combination has the best commanders?
Not just in a "This color has 10 commanders, 9 sucks but the last one, if the deck is made right, is completely unbeatable" way, but as the combination with the most commanders that allow you to play in different, effective ways
>>
>>54514783
Within Saskia's colors? or just in general?
>>
>>54514783
That award more than likely goes to Esper. Sharuum (Artifacts), Zur (Voltron/Enchantress), Oloro (Pillowfort/Stax) and Sen Triplets (Control) come to mind.
>>
>>54514783
baby, has all tiers. aggro, stax, blink, enchantments, group hug etc.
rhoon
rafiq
derevi
Angus McKenzie
pedlegriff
>>
>>54514891
bant...
>>
>tfw 2 new mono-red Neheb decks in my group
Help
>>
>>54514912
Teeg, Teeg, Teeg, Teeg.
>>
>>54514963
>Lightning Bolt
>>
>>54514891
>pedlegriff
What's great about Phelddagrif?
>>
>>54514980
No one runs Bolt in my group but me

>>54514963
Not a bad idea. I think one guy is doing Warrior tribal, his deck used to be Urabrask and now he just races to dump his hand and make for huge amounts of damage
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>>54514980
>>
How do I go full politics? With voting and shit?
How do I do this without becoming an instant target and making sure I always get the vote I want?
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>>54515019
Build Gwafa and go full godfather.dek
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>>54515019
>and making sure I always get the vote I want?
Illusion of Choice on an Isochron Scepter.

The best voting cards are in Esper, so I run Maximum Level Conspiracy in Sen Triplets, but then I'm going less "Rock the Vote" and more "Rig the Vote". Having a commander with an ability that you can cut a deal regarding (so, targeted) is good. You could probably get away with Gwafa for maximum flavor but I personally think Merieke would work out for you pretty well.

Just be aware that even if people like you they won't necessarily vote for you when Expropiate is on the ballot
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>>54515019
you play lots of voting cards???

a lot of them are bad though

you can run pic related though if you're in blue

i'd personally build Queen Marchesa or something for flavor reasons though

here are some of my favorite political cards

Dawnbreak Reclaimer
Death or Glory
Diaochan, Artful Beauty
Duelist's Heritage
Humble Defector
Kazuul, Tyrant of the Cliffs
Nullmage Advocate
Orzhov Advokist
Prison Term
Pulsemage Advocate
Rite of the Raging Storm
Spurnmage Advocate
Vow of Duty
Vow of Lightning
(other vows too)
Wall of Shards
>>
>>54503092
>You have to play a commander from Legends or Homelands. Who is it and why?
Probably Rasputin since he has some pretty funny combo potential, going Very Large with DEN (and infinite if you have a Gemstone Array) which would be fun
>>
>>54514980
If one of your opponents plays Bolt in EDH, you can already consider yourself a winner.
>>
>>54514963
How expensive is a good Teeg deck? I've never built G/W and I want to give him a try, but my group relies mainly on extremely fat creatures so I don't know how effective he would be.
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>>54515086
Hol up
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>>54515261
Bolt is fucking great. It's still 1 mana instant removal that kills a lot of things.
>>
>>54515261
Bolt is underrated. Scales super well with the competitiveness a table, since a lot of important creatures are 3 toughness or less, and instant speed is gravy
>>
>>54504420
This is fucking good and on-theme as fuck
>>
>>54515325
>>54515283
I've also come around on Flame Slash in red decks. It lacks the instant speed but so many important targets have 4 toughness that it's worth it.
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I want to build UB Cycling. No General for it yet, so I'm deciding between Wydwen, Lazav and Sygg.

Wydwen having flash sort plays into the whole cycling thing since I'll be keeping up mana for control stuff, cycling or if I need it, my general.

Lazav plays well with Windfalls and mass discard (which work well with most "matters" cards) and has hexproof, but has hefty color weight and is still kind of eh.

Sygg is just minor generic value.

Opinions?
>>
>>54515555
I usually go for Mizzium Mortars for the overload utility, but Flame Slash is always so tempting because of that 1 mana.
>>
>>54509059
I don't get it
>>54515276
Wow so you can choose how they vote in uw and then exile four permanents?
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>>54515591
Wydwen seems like the most fun.
She can also have a faerie tribal subtheme that meshes well with instant speed cycling shenanigans.
>>
>>54515591
I'd take Lazav or Scarab God.

Don;t forget your Fluctuator!
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>>54515266
It honestly depends on how effective you want to make him. Teeg is my most expensive deck because of how many hate cards are also played in modern/legacy. He also doesn't fair well against creature spam, so you might want to consider Sigarda 1.0, Trostani, or Saffi for GW.
>>
>>54515708
Only reason I decided against Scarab God was direct anti synergy with Abandoned Sarcophagus. He clearly is powerful.

>>54515687
Yeah, I was kind of thinking that too. I'll be messing with it. I do love me some subthemes.

Plus, then I would have an excuse to run Shadow of Doubt.
>>
Alright, I'm out but I'm leaving the new OP before I go. Migrate whenever you feel like it

>>54515877
>>54515877
>>54515877
>>54515877
>>
>>54515747
Yeah the worry is that Teeg will fall flat against creature-heavy decks. I do want to give hatebears a try, maybe Alesha? Even though GW is probably the best color combo for it.
>>
>>54515664
Socialism/Communism where everyone's thing belond to everyone, there is no private property.
>>
>>54515664
Four or more
>>
what commander deck should I build
>>
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>>54516857
post ur decks bitch
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>>54516857
5 color Zada
Ulasht hyper combo
Gwafa politics
Zur slide
Scarab God
Reanimator

There, a good mix.
>>
>>54516926
I don't really have one
>>
>>54516996
Build Alesha Samurai tribal and get all the girls at your LGS wet
>>
How do you keep yourself from adding too many subthemes?
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>>54517027
>Alesha is not a samurai
>Alesha is not a girl
>Lgs's don't have girls

Philiphine Edgy Weeabo Ladyboy EDH
>>
>>54515040

Gwafa is a bad choice for politics. A friend of mine I was playing against with gwafa gave it to me best: "the best way to get all my creatures back is to kill you, and you kept giving me the tools to do it."
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