Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

First for Orks

>>54467974
Word bearers worst legion, lorgar a shit.

Also, got to play a game with the new space marine codex today and holy shit is it good. Killshot in paticular is fucking amazing

>>54468015
What do you think its best on? I think its best on autocannon predators.

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3rd for chadmarines.

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I cant wait for another whole thread of Space Marine wank

Posting over here due to new thread.

>>54467702
>>54467702
Rokkit pistols have a niche use if you're going to dump the Tankbustas behind enemy lines with Da Jump to try and alpha-strike something big. The extra shots can be a big deal.

A full unit of Tankbustas unloading on a vehicle ends up with 18 shots hitting on 5+ and 6 shots hitting on 2+, all rerolling misses against vehicles.

I've killed knights turn 1 with this. Granted my opponents had shit rolls for their saves.

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Do Primaris marines have an American accent?

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>>54467974
Lorgar a shit.

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>>54468042
I can try to ease your pain.
What army do you play?

The Omnissiah Protects. Except he doesn't at the moment, because Shroudpsalm (the only worthwhile Canticle, because it turns our shitty Scions into shitty SOB) is completely ignored by Imperial Fists.

The fuck thought the new Mech rules were a good idea? Reroll One canticle should be a flat +1 To Hit, and the others need jigging round a bit. I'd make Shroudpsalm a -1 To Hit given it's a one turn buff and only has a 33% chance to roll even with Cawl on subsequent turns.

>>54468037
Ironlet still lost to the superior Primaris Marines™ and the indomitable and heroic Roboute Guilliman™.

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>>54468041

Reposting, my comments in the last thread if you give a shit but honestly most people will care more about the actual pic.

>>54468037
Always enjoy tabletop tactics, that game was quite fun to watch. Guilliman proving Knights are awful though.

>>54468046
I picture most marines speaking like Patrick Stewart.

Is there any tldr version of Armies? Like
>Eldar, fast, strong, fragile
>Tyranid, expensive army, swarmy, combat oriented

I want to start 40k and some sort of description like this would really help. Mainly interested in non Marine armies

>>54468037
>HAHAHa HE ROLLEEDD A SEX AND SIZED THE INIT AND THEN GOES SURPSAIJAYAN! SO FUNNAY XdDDDDDDDDDDdd
Go back

>>54468035
I prefer it on quad lascannons personally. They can each fire at a different target, and hitting and wounding on a 2+ vs most every monster and vehicle in the game is extremely good. I found sitting a primaris lieutenant next to them to give them the re-roll 1s to wound is especially great, it makes them able to take out a land raider and a rhino in one turn, which is fucking awesome.
I haven't tried it on the autocannon pred yet, I'll have to do that next time.

Also, RAW it applies to the FW preds right?

>>54468060
Yeah. Girlyman and three fucking Flyers. The fact that Beardie didn't just up and leave was the real heroic deed about that game.

>>54468044
the pistols also have lower strength and damage most of the time. they are only better than rokkits against very light vehicles (like land speeders and trukks), even against rhino-chassis targets they tie rokkits in damage output while having half the range

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>>54468084
Does your carer know you're past your bed time?

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>>54468084

I like beard because his enthusiasm seems genuine.

Come at me faggot.

>Finally, if you don’t have a Space Marines army, don’t worry – it really won’t be long before you have a codex of your own. We’re committed to supporting all of Warhammer 40,000’s major factions with codexes. You may be envious of Space Marines and their Chapter Tactics and Stratagems now but just think: soon you’ll have your own tricks and ploys to play, and unique rules for your Traitor Legion, Astra Militarum Regiment or Forge World of choice.
AdMech and Imperial Guard might be the first non-SM codex guys.

>>54468069
calm but authoritative Picard Stewart? comedian Stewart? or creepy horror movie Stewart?

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>>54468084
I'm so sorry, I forget we are in the no-fun zone where actually playing the game and enjoying the experience isn't allowed.

>>54468056
Not him, but my pain will never end.
I just hope my next WD is not a colossal shit like the last one

>>54468109
Don't get my hopes up anon-kun.

>>54468046

Every marine sounds like Alfred from Gotham after I saw the Ultramarines movie. Seriously his voice is like the only good thing about that piece of shit.

https://youtu.be/4RNqRDGSRjs?t=1m44s

>>54468056
Orks, Grey Knights, and a soon to be adopted Tyranid force

>>54468046
All marines have a basketball american accent.

>>54468118
>watching some reddit faggots on youtube
>playing the game

>>54468061
Hopefully when deathwatch get a codex they let them take things like these and apothecaries. Would make the kill teams just that much more versatile.

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>>54468084
>>54468151

>>54468118
>watching someone else play the game
>same thing as playing the game
Fuck off weeaboo faggot

>>54468132
The actor in that scene is Sean Pertwee. I fucking love the guy and wish he did a lot more shit.

>>54468084
You first. You will be missed far, far less.
Wait who am I kidding. No one will miss you

>>54468053
Fwiw Duncan usually just undercoats with the colored sprays these days. He doesn't bother priming white/black first.

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>>54468109
can't fucking wait for my valhallan rules

>>54468162
>Red Scorpions Apothecary
>Ultramarines Lieutenant
>Iron Hands Techmarine
>Blood Ravens Librarian
>Black Templars Chaplain
Stop it, I can only get so hard!

>>54468209
Because GW want to meme washes.

>>54468172
>>54468151
No it's not the same, but if you can't at least understand the feeling being expressed in the above webm, then you clearly don't play the game yourself.

>>54468079
>Necrons, midrange shooting and durable as fuck.

>>54468109

I can seem IG up soon-ish, but AM, eh I dunno

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Guys, I need your help. My local gamestore is having a conversion and painting contest. We need to buy, build and paint a new HQ for the fate of konor stuff but as a bit of fun it cant be a model that already exists (although we could for example make Logan Grimnar as long as we convert bits to make him).

I'm currently building a Dark Angel army and need some ideas to build like a dreadnaught, Azreal or something else that I can build for it, anyone have any ideas? I'm drawing on blanks other than something like pic related.

>>54468226

What do you mean black templars chaplain, grimaldus?

>>54468230
thats because they are useful

>>54468230
No need for that. Shades are so awesome they don't need to be a meme. Even the painting tutorial fags who will try everything to avoid Citadel paints end up using at least one Citadel Shade. Especially the Gloss Shades, which are cheating when you're working with metallics.

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>>54468261
Make sure to freehand your standard, anon!

>>54468275
As part of a Deathwatch army, I meant.

>>54468261
Take a chad, stick desired head of character on.
You are now done.

>>54468297

Ah, thats pretty sick

>>54468226
Well I mean more as a mechanical thing than anything else.

2W terminators to catch bullets for your expensive deathwatch marines, with an apothecary to patch them up or flat out revive them when they inevitably take damage. That'd be sweet as fuck.

>>54468279
No need for what? Why so quick to white knight?

>>54468261
Characters I felt like making:
Zahariel (don't ask me why)
Ramiel with some mechanical limbs since he's presumed dead, but who knows

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>>54468037
>Tfw you were somebody

>>54468261
When's the contest end? Because for Dark Angels, I'd desperately want to use the new Primaris Chaplain and add some bits from the DA Veteran sprue.

Hmm

If a Black Templar manifested psychic powers after recruitment, missing the screening for it, could he flee to the deathwatch?

If so, would he be forced to be a blackshield or would he keep his shoulderpad.

>>54468279
I prefer army painter shades, droplets are easier to work with than dabs that can potentially taint the wash with another pigment.

>>54468261
make a deathwing champion

>>54468259
I am hopeful that those specific faction mentions was a tease for the next codexes in line. Adeptus Mechanicus need some buffs, and hopefully plastic transports.

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>>54468261
>>54468261
>dreadnaught Azrael

>>54468347
I thought it was a geneseed quirk (in addition to their zealous beliefs) that meant they had no psykers. So it wouldn't happen to begin with.

Unless that's just an Inquisition cover story.

>>54468347
Don't psychic powers manifest early tho?

>>54468079
>Space Marines
>Short ranged shooting with powerful weapons, tons of delovery options.

>>54468245
>i-if you don't understand why people scream like a sperg when they sieze the initiative you are not a true cotsman!!!

>>54468347

Say what you really mean anon.

Say "I want to field a Black Templars deathwatch librarian to trigger people."

>>54468316
>No need for what?
No need to specifically turn them into a meme. They don't need to be forced if people already love them.
Also, you may shit on Citadel Shades all you like, I don't give a fuck. I like them, I use them. They've never led me wrong.

>>54468370
Cool idea but it looks like it's draped in pastry.

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>>54468006

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>>54468330
A month from today.
>>54468296
Yeah will do, thinking of this or the art from Angels of Caliban
>>54468319
those could be good shouts, didnt they both become Fallen though?
>>54468356
Could be a good shout. Very few photos for inspiration online though for Dark Angels. Money isnt an issue, so would even go up to a Knight if a good idea hit me.

>>54468377

I want to field a black templars deathwatch librarian to trigger people.

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Wanna get back into playing but i can't be bothered with actual armies

Is Kill Team any good ? Are CSM, Orks and Dark Angels good at it ?

>>54468409
Yes, Yes.

>>54468376
>if you can't understand why someone would emote like this in this situation you either have autism or don't play the game
FTFY

Ok /tg/, help me pick weapons for my Deathwatch Vets from less known Chapters. The army is not a competitive one, merely a pet project, so I'm picking weapons based on what Chapter the Marines are from (power sword for the Black Templar, combi-flamer for the Salamander, etc) rather than efficiency.

So lorefags and black libraryfags, tell me what weapons fit these Chapters:
>mentors
>brazen claws
>howling griffons
>silver skulls
>minotaurs
>flesh tearers

>>54468046
Yes, specifically an upper-class Midwestern accent.

>Brother -Sergeant, secure that overlook and rain fire upon the enemy from above!
>You betcha, Brother Captain!


But for real, it depends on the creator of the video game/movie/narrator in question. There's no hard rule, especially since Space Marines are so diverse individually

>>54468371
They have the same geneseed as Imperial Fists. It's only their beliefs.

>>54468079
>Necrons, easily painted, don't really die unless unit is wiped
>Dark Angels, TOO MANY OPTIONS, lots of robes, bikes and termi focus
>Grey Knights, cheap psychic spammy termi army
>Astra militarum, expensive, strong, big, spammy army
>Sisters, EXPENSIVE, hard to find, flamers

>>54468409
Kill team is really fun, though I'd recomend just grabbing the Start collecting so you can do kill team and 8th, since both are really fun games

>>54468418
any good lists for those ?

>>54468429
flesh tearers is an eviscerator, that one should have been a gimme

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How come dual gatling + an icarus launcher and 2 stormbolters only cost 202 points ???

>>54468378
I'm not shitting on them holy fuck. They are great for certain uses, just like ANY paint. But that is not what I am saying.

Go read the old How To Paint Citadel Miniatures book. Now go read the new one. Notice a different in the content of each book? I'll tell you: the new HTPCM book does not give you any actual painting techniques (aside from drybrushing), it simply says "this paint we sell will achieve this effect" and that's it.

Now do you see what I am saying?

>>54468370
I can't decide if this is the coolest or the dumbest thing I've seen all day.
It looks like a fat guy coming out of a gay """sauna""" in a bathrobe. How fitting.

>>54468429
Bolters for all but flesh tearers. They like chain axes

>>54468079
Tau
>cheating weebs

>>54468452
don't wanna invest in new shit
I've got enough plastic crack sitting at home

>>54468477
Well okay then. What's going to be in your teams?

>>54468111
>calm but authoritative Picard Stewart
Ultra primarines
>comedian Stewart
Wolvf Primarines
>creepy horror movie Stewart
Dark Angel or IH Primarines

>>54468111
Like in I Claudius as Julius Ceasar (I think his part was) or Picard-ish.

>>54468464
Just put 5 in a list at this point

>>54468404
Ramiel became a interrogator chaplain which went undercover of a space wolf to find a fallen and interrogate him. Fighting in a dark eldar arena, then trying to kill some kind of leader, killing the announcer instead, then got fucked by deldar

Zahariel is probably Cypher (don't shoot me /tg/)

>>54468189
>>54468132

Mark Strong does a very good SM voice

>>54468365

Everyone is convinced they're the weakest and need buffs.
For real, is any faction objectively in needs of buffs?

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>>54468464
>Pregnoughts cost the same as my Furioso and are 30 points cheaper than my Death Company Dreadlet.

I need to remove some miniatures from a base, but avoid damaging the paint job too much.
The glue used was super glue (cyanoacrylate)
Any idea?

>>54468429
>Flesh Tearers
Either dual chainswords or an Eviscerator
>Minotaurs
Storm Shield and Power Spear
>Silver Skulls
Storm Bolter or Stalker Bolter

The others I have no fucking clue

>>54468454
I'm not helping you netlist.

>>54468464
Because it might not even be worth that amount of points.
So far 'meh' is an accurate description of all chad marine rules.

>>54468372
>>54468347
It's not at all unreasonable, something very similar happened with Typhus before the Heresy when the Death Guard were a psyker hating legion.
Though in his case he just suppressed his powers.

Still if he were to join the Deathwatch he'd probably do so as a Black Shield, so you wouldn't be able to tell he was a Templar.

>>54468121
Why so?
>>54468140
Neat! I bet GK gets a cool model or two with the update!

>>54468428
As a mental psychologist an autist will often overemote on most things because they do not process emotion like other people, and thus assume other people emote in the same way. Because they need blatant emotions spoonfed to them, they do the same to others. Hence they will scream like a mating male chimpanzee when successfully siezing initiative.

>>54468101
>lower strength
Only matters really against T7 or T8 vehicles. They wound T9-T13 the same.
>lower damage
True, but the potential for more due to two shots
>Half range
Like I said, niche uses.

>>54468509
SoB, needs buff and new models.
I'd be happy with just new models

>>54468507
Mark Strong should play Roboute Guilliman in a live action Ultramarine movie.

>>54468467
Yeah, okay, I've never touched those books and have been subjected to a steady diet of Duncan, so I wouldn't know. But if that's the way it works now, yes, I can see your problem.

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>>54468464
I wonder whats better.

5 ChadDread with dual gatling, a melee fist, an Icarus and 2 stormbolters for 1010 points

or 3 leviathan with 2 StormCannon and 2 heavy flamers each for 927 points.

Chad dont have the invuln but get way more HP.

>>54468531
>Only matters really against T7 or T8 vehicles
So pretty much every relevant vehicle in the game?

>>54468498
CSM: got lots of marines, terminator lord and terminators, possibly nice chosen or lords
Is it viable to play only characters ? Like a sorcerer conclave ?
Dark Angels : bikes + terminators + jump packs
Orks : shooty + battle wagon + bikes
>>54468518
ok then

>>54468515
freeze the mini for a bit in a container/bag, makes most glue brittle for easy disassembly while avoiding moisture damage

>>54468541
>SoB, needs buff

Funny, that doesn't match the match reports. But then again, what should I have expected posing that question.

>>54468460
>>54468471
>>54468517
Let's try narrowing it to stuff available in the codex.

Christpher Lee's voice as a Chaplain?

Ian McKellan's voice for a Librarian?

Brian Blessed as a Space Wolf?

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>>54468524
I can see the new dreadknights now

Although I actually dont hate them

>>54468587
>asks the fluff fags for answers
>not good enough waaaaa

fuck off

>>54468584
What match reports? Last set of list only had Celestine or a bunch of meme HB Rets. Was there even a SoB army?

>>54468588
A..anon...Christopher Lee has died.

>>54468614
Guess it'll have to be a dreadnought then.

>>54468587
Power Spears or Lances are the same stat block as Power Mauls, so Storm Shield + Power Maul but built as a spear.
Normal Chainsword then.
Storm Bolters and Stalker Bolters should still be in your list.
There, happy now, you entitled shitstain?

>>54468614
I know mate (rip in pieces)

But it still makes some sense right?

>>54468527
>a mental psychologist

>>54468573
Can't use termies in kill team.

Or battlewagons. Or HQs.

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>>54468639
Yes, it would have been great.

>>54468627
You bastard.

>>54468643
Yeah, a psychologist who's mental

Is there a way to play Orks that's not just "Green Tide, 90 boys on the table" right now, or just wait and hope the eventual codex allows other builds?

>>54468707
Paint them red instead for a red tide, it is faster too

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>mfw still no leak on the point cost of old primaris

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>>54468707
Yes.

For less meme list try Weirdboy launching Tankbustas

>>54468707
Green Tsunami, 90 nobs

>>54468707
burnabommas.
Lottas are pretty killy.
battlewagons are pretty tough and killy.
Trukks full of burnas.

>>54468707
Not really. You'll need at least one or two squads of 30 to make sure your smaller specialist squads don't run away screaming and at that point, you're in for a Green Tide anyway.

>>54468601
>>54468633
>getting this mad when somebody points out you don't have weapon options memorized
lol

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>>54468724
>2001 points

Is there a full leak of the SM codex yet?

>>54468560
At <12" Rokkits are more consistent, Rokkit Pistols can spike higher.

Don't be argumentative just for the sake of it.

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wat

>>54468652
Kill Team sucks
I think I'll just play Black Crusade

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>>54468760

>>54468741
>I was merely pretending to be retarded

>>54468592
Only part I don't like about Dreadknights is the pose.
Model itself looks kinda baller.

>>54468768
chart-anon has already done the math for you dipshit. there is a very, very small range of vehicles that the pistols are more effective against than regular rokkits (knights are not among these), and this comes at a very relevant decrease in range

>>54468773
Eh, they have some glitches or morons filing things wrong like this from time to time.

At this point I wouldn't be surprised to find out that some intern at GW did this just for your precise reaction.

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>>54468792
It's hard but re-posing them helps a lot

>>54468724
You're a point, over, buddy. Lose it.

>>54468777
>I have to meme to save face

>>54468722
I believe all basic primaris (hellblasters, intercessors, reivers) got knocked down to 18 points per model.
That, plus the various options for guns now, makes them worth fielding in my opinion.

>>54468774
Shit taste, famalam.

>>54468821
>Hey my list is at 2001 points, do you mind?
>Nah thats cool dude

Forgot /tg/ only plays in hyper competitive environments and tournaments, my fault

>>54468108
he likes hipster beards

>absolutelydisgusting.gif

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>>54468847

>>54468867
Why have a point limit if we are just going to ignore it?

>>54468867
Going a little over is ok if you've made the list on tbe spot with what you have on hand for a casual game.

If you've pre written the list and build the army for it you can get at or under the points limit.

Who has the best bike army currently? Faction doesn't matter.

>>54468815
>Dat tiny baby termie

Did bringing 3, 5 man squads of Intercessors just become worth it for the Battalion?

>>54468857
>not wanting termies
>not wanting sorcerers
>"famalam"
no, it is you who has the shit taste, boy

>>54468084
Sometime I really do hope you get the world you want, if only to see your face when your autism gets you lead to the gallows

>>54468109
Makes sense. AM are one of the older codexes, are in need of a rework in some places (scions being brought down just a tad bit in power, conscripts getting some form of nerf, some tanks being brought up in power), and are one of the more popular armies with players and the writers.
Ad mech are in desperate need of some buffs and some more flavorful rules and seem to be one of the more popular armies. That would also round out all the major imperium factions (excluding the other flavors of power armor, because the last thing we need is all of them getting rules first, and I say this as a marine player, and of course sisters and other imperial agents because Lol meme armies)

>>54468867
>makes a list over the limit days ahead of schedule
>calls others to be hyper competitive
Stop being a waac cunt.

>>54468909
Only marines and Orks have bikes.
So it must be one of those.

>>54468889
>the madman, he did it again

>>54468911
It always was. If they do indeed get a point drop and the gun options are free, then it's turned from "worth it" to "no-brainer"

>>54468909
White scars without a doubt.

>54468940
Not even worth the (You) anymore

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>>54468037

>>54468851
not only the price changed. Intercessor now can get the auxiliary grenade launcher so maybe the dark imperium squads become more useful.

>>54468588
Sean Connery as Bjorn the Fellhanded
Ian McKellen as Njal Stormcaller
Iain Glenn as Ragnar Blackmane
David O'Hara as Logan Grimnar
Gerard Butler as Ulrik the Slayer
Robbie Coltrane as Canis Wolfborn
Billy Connolly as Lukas the Trickster

Tom Hardy as Cato Sicarius
Mark Strong as Roboute Guilliman
Jeremy Irons as Tigurius


Damian Lewis as Azrael
Ralph Fiennes as Asmodai
Sean Bean as Sammael
Kenneth Branagh as Ezekiel

Tom Hiddleston as Dante
Jude Law as The Sanguinor
Marilyn Manson as Astorath the Grim
Gary Oldman as Mephiston
Christian Bale as Lemartes

Idris Elba as Vulkan He'stan
Chiwetel Eijofor as Xavier

>>54468952
How are White Scars better than Ravenwing or Ynnari Bike spam?
Honestly curious.

>>54468909

White Scars are the best bike army as of now.

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>>54468079

>Dark Eldar, faster, stronger, more fragile

>>54468911
Yes, though a mix of tacs and Intercessors is the best in my opinion, especially since any competent marine list will be trying to get as many command points as possible since stratagems are a thing

>>54468924
>older codexs

What? Everyone got an index like a month ago.

>>54468960
Here's yours, since you're so desperate for them drama queen.

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>looking at local warmachine games
Well I feel bad about bitching about unpainted armies

>>54468555

Stormcannons are way more flexible, for what it's worth.

I'd make the leviathan spam ultramarines though: Even with all those flamer hits, people are gonna prefer trying to tarpit them to letting them have free reign.

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>>54469013

>>54469016
>Still more terrain than your average Amerifat 40k table

>>54468429
mentors get the most advanced piece of equipment, arguably the frag cannon

GW could at least try to pretend they give a shit about Space Marines that aren't Ultramarines.

The new transfer sheets only have Ultramarine shit on them.

>>54469044
Tau is very popular in the US so it stands to reason

>>54468981
They can fallback and charge the same turn.

>>54468981
>almost garunteeded turn one charge
>fast as fuck
>able to pull out of combat, let all their friends shoot at you, then charge right back in
They're crazy good. You can easily tie up big scary enemy shooty units turn one, rape them with something like vet bikes and then shoot at them again in your next shooting phase and still be able to use your scary melee units

>>54468046

Unless they're some weird chapter like space wolves, all marine protagonists sound like captain titus to me

>>54468981
As a DA player, white scars beats us with the new codex stuff, they get some small bonuses, but we're overall more flexible

>>54469016
That 2d terrain is so sad.

>>54469010
>indexes
>anything close to the same thing as codexes

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>>54469046

>The new transfer sheets only have Ultramarine shit on them.

>>54469027
So that one was worth a (you) ?

>>54469065

Clearly you need to play the DoW2 campaign missions.

>>54468520

Only from bandwagoners on /tg/ who haven't actually played them

>>54469016
I'll never understand the appeal of Warmachine. How anyone can look at that table and say "man, that looks so fun" is beyond me

>>54468981
>charge their LOW/superheavy on turn one
>then retreat so it can be shot at
>then charge it again
>lol
WS are gonna be absolute cancer to T'au and I cannot wait to see the tears flow

>>54469083
he's talking about the captain and the librarian

>>54469117
Ws are gonna be absolute cancer to most things

>>54469101

I love them but they all sound like their original characters.

Captain Titus sounds like he could be literally any reasonable marine, whether it's justicar alaric or Felix from dark Imperium

>>54468109
That list was not meant to be a hint at the order in which these rules are getting released, they just rattled off various sub-faction types.

Although Guard players indeed probably won't have to wait very long.

>>54468464
for a second I didn't realize they were sitting on glass and thought the infantry under them was a scale reference...

>>54469117
>tying units in melee that can fall back and still shoot
>having to burn all your cp to advance and charge while eating tons of overwatch every time

tau are literally the worst army to try that against

>>54469076
Even books and soda cans are better than that

Also fuck captcha fading images and 10+ unskippable ones

>>54469105
warmachine has appeal.
Warmachine as played by warmachine tournament players has none.

>>54469117
The Taufag tears have been good so far this edition. Their face when you declare a charge from behind your Rhino so nothing can overwatch ... priceless.

Thoughts on this list? Trying to make out themed but still semi competitive


[b]++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [100 PL, 1845pts] ++[/b]

[b]+ HQ +[/b]

[b]Company Commander [3 PL, 39pts]:[/b] Plasma pistol, Power sword

[b]Tank Commander [13 PL, 249pts]:[/b] Lascannon, Multi-meltas
. Command Battle Tank: Battle Cannon

[b]+ Troops +[/b]

[b]Infantry Squad [3 PL, 52pts][/b]
. 7x Guardsman
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Flamer
. Guardsman w/ Vox-caster: Vox-caster
. Sergeant: Chainsword

[b]Infantry Squad [3 PL, 52pts][/b]
. 7x Guardsman
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Flamer
. Guardsman w/ Vox-caster: Vox-caster
. Sergeant: Chainsword

[b]Infantry Squad [3 PL, 52pts][/b]
. 7x Guardsman
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Flamer
. Guardsman w/ Vox-caster: Vox-caster
. Sergeant: Chainsword

[b]+ Elites +[/b]

[b]Command Squad [3 PL, 51pts][/b]
. Veteran w/ Medi-pack: Medi-pack
. Veteran w/ Regimental Standard: Regimental Standard
. Veteran w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Veteran w/ Vox-caster: Vox-caster

[b]Commissar [2 PL, 30pts][/b]

[b]Master of Ordnance [2 PL, 38pts][/b]

[b]Platoon Commander [2 PL, 20pts][/b]

[b]+ Heavy Support +[/b]

[b]Basilisks [12 PL, 216pts][/b]
. Basilisk: Heavy Bolter
. Basilisk: Heavy Bolter

[b]Hydras [12 PL, 246pts][/b]
. Hydra: Heavy Bolter
. Hydra: Heavy Bolter

[b]Leman Russ Battle Tanks [22 PL, 428pts][/b]
. Leman Russ Battle Tank: Battle Cannon, Lascannon, Multi-meltas
. Leman Russ Battle Tank: Battle Cannon, Lascannon, Multi-meltas

[b]+ Dedicated Transport +[/b]

[b]Chimera [5 PL, 93pts]:[/b] Heavy Bolter, Multi-laser

[b]Chimera [5 PL, 93pts]:[/b] Heavy Bolter, Multi-laser

[b]Chimera [5 PL, 93pts]:[/b] Heavy Bolter, Multi-laser

[b]Chimera [5 PL, 93pts]:[/b] Heavy Bolter, Multi-laser

[b]++ Total: [100 PL, 1845pts] ++[/b]

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Leviathon with 2 storm cannons any good? I've been meaning to pick up a dread and holy heck does this look great

>>54469207
WouldntPlayAgainst/10

>>54469180
>>having to burn all your cp to advance and charge while eating tons of overwatch every time
>1 CP
>all your CP.
look at this faggot who can't into list building with the codexes.

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>>54469083

>>54469194
Agreed though unfortunately hyper competitive 2d terrain and unpainted armies has become the standard.

I haven't even played the new eddition of warmachine because of it.

>>54469224
Yes, grav flux is better, but storm cannon isn't bad, though I'd recommend running it with SC+Claw

Could someone recommend me a good Space Marine novel?

I've read all the big hitters; Eisenhorn, Ravenor, Gaunt's Ghosts, Ciaphas Cain, Ultramarines, Word Bearers, Night Lords, Iron Warriors etc, and I'm most of the way through the Heresy (though I gave that shit up)

I want a 40k Space Marine book that I can read now whilst I'm bored for a few hours

>>54469172
As Tyranids I'm really not concerned.

>turn 1 he charges my gaunt screen
>Broodlord and Tyrants Heroic Intervention into combat
>he gets a few swings in
>I hit back and murder half of bikes because Invisibility isn't a thing in 8th and there are no more bikestars of death
>no more same turn H&R so after his turn is over he's still locked in combat
>I smite the fuck out of him, charge in with anything else killy, and murder the rest of them
>his turn 2 he has nothing left to fall back anyway

>>54469265
Damocles anthology.

>>54469265

Red Tithe is mandatory as far as good 40k books go.

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>>54468665
as opposed to... psychologists who are not?

>>54469046
>Playing npc chapters

lmao @ dis cuck

>>54469258

Yeah it's more fun with a Melee weapon.

>>54469245
They'll release new transfer sheet add-ons later like they always do.

>>54469273

gaunt screens are the greatest, and they're useful again now that deepstrike assaults and assault in general is a thing again.

>>54469180
Indeed.
Heavy melee arent' the big problem for Tau, but other heavy shooting armies

>>54469231
Why what's wrong with it? For background one never played 40k before so I'm not sure what's good or bad.

>>54469192
literally just switch back to legacy captcha.

>>54468155
You too anon!

>>54469286
I'm in the middle of Rogue Trader after reading the Night Lords, Night lords was great, RT is a B- I guess

>>54469286
this

>>54468230
That has nothing to do with it unless you aren't doing full basecoats over the undercoat, perhaps doing some kind of rattlecan preshading technique. However that's better handled with an airbrush and didn't seem to be what anon was asking about.

Not everything is a GW conspiracy.

>>54469286

>Red tithe
>Good

Going by how much of a cunt the author is online, I find that hard to believe.

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>>54469046

>>54469390

oh its you again, go ahead and quote his facebook posts like you always do since you love/hate him so much

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Great news everyone!
Hitting on 5+ makes ANYTHING a useless piece of shit!

>>54469343
I have a hate boner for Guard, Ork player whos only opponent in 7th list tailored to annihilate me every game.

His lists looked a lot like that, nothing but vehicles and Chimeras, only difference was lots of flyers as well

So, what factions do you think are the most interesting? That you can understand why they have their degree of popularity?
Hard mode: you don't play that faction

Conversly, what factions do you struggle to remember exist, and wonder why people even play them?

>>54469417

Yeah hitting 33% of the time is kind of a bitch

>>54468971
Plus power weapon on the sarge, plus ObSec. I rather like them.

>>54469327
how many are in your gaunt screen? i want to assess if i can remove it before my charges strike

>>54469412

Don't use facebook, I just see him being an ass on tumblr. It's annoying, I'd have loved a Carcharodons novel not written by a total douche.

>>54468084
neck yourself angry cunt

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What's the proper paint for bare power armour? I would go with Leadbelcher but them they'd look like Grey Knights.
As well, how might I make some chaos marine armour with mk4 that looks customized but not necessarily chaotic?

>>54469265
I enjoyed The Beast Arises series. The first book, "I Am Slaughter," is by Abnett.

>>54469434
>So, what factions do you think are the most interesting? That you can understand why they have their degree of popularity?
>Hard mode: you don't play that faction
Space Marines

>Conversly, what factions do you struggle to remember exist, and wonder why people even play them?
Necrons

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>>54469417
Man peach anon I wish I had times for games like you...

>>54469434

Personally, I don't play Orka but I see the appeal with the semi humour and offkilter army breakdown as well as creativity options

On the other hand, I remember Nids exist but they seem dull given the lack of personalization availible and then being essentially a faceless big bad

>>54469471
>What's the proper paint for bare power armour?

This is actually a fairly contentious subject.
Some sources say silver, some say white.

>>54469471
>What's the proper paint for bare power armour? I would go with Leadbelcher but them they'd look like Grey Knights.
That's exactly the point. Grey Knights wear bare unpainted power armour, that's why they're Grey.

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>>54469439
Definitely going Missile Silo next time. I think between all four HeavyBs and the cannon it did 8 wounds all game.
STOOD TALL THOUGH. 8 LASCANNONS A TURN DONT MEAN SHIT.
Funny highlights include a first turn Helldrake rush resulting in ONE Baleflamer hit that was rerolled into a ONE, which failed to wound the Guardsmen with a ONE and then failed its charge with double ONE

>>54469273
While your certainly right that screens will definitely hamper WS, I think you might be over estimating how effective they are. Company vets on bikes are great not just because they're really fast and really good in melee, but also because they can put out a fuck load of shots for rather cheap. They have a twin boltgun on their bike, plus they can be run with a melee weapon+ combi or special weapon. That means that they can do quite a bit of damage to your screen then charge the nice meaty stuff behind it.

>>54469434
I always forget the Tau exist. They're pretty cool i guess but it probably has something to do with them having basically no immediate relevance to the most important parts of the fluff (chaos and shit). Seems to me there's only so much fun to be had from doing nothing but sitting back and mowing people down from half way across the board turn after turn, too.
That said it could just be through a fluke that none of the people i play against regularly are tau players.

I've never touched the Space Wolves, but just judging from their badass fluff and cool lookin' dudes i can totally understand why they're popular. Same goes for the other special astartes factions too i suppose.

>>54469434
Tyranids by far, I love literally everything in their fluff and most of their models incidentally i might inherit my brothers Nids at some point

Sisters, literally no idea who would subject themselves to that amount of money and those horrendous models

>>54469471
Weren't the original death guard colors bare power armor? So flat white/gray?

Marine players, if you don't use Tacs - or any other Troop choices - what do you guys use to capture objectives?

>>54468046
When I played DOW I used to spend hours in the painter making themed armies after a few countries.

>Tau : Japan and Korea obviously
>Eldar : China,Vietnam
>Chaos: Germany, Switzerland,Northern Ireland, South Africa
>IG : Russia , America,France,Italy
>Orks: Scotland, Ukraine, Poland,Turkey
>SM: America,Ireland,England,Canada,Alaska,Wales
>Necrons: Iceland, Greenland, Denmark

Primaris would have to be English to me. From Liverpool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STIvNjWobzA

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>>54469417
Agreed. It renders forgefiends shit too.

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What sort of s'tratagems do you think the T'au will have?

>>54469539
>not using Troops to capture objectives
>in 8th edition Codex that gives Troops Defenders of Humanity
Stop being bad. Get some damn Intercessors.

>>54469265
Iron Snakes one?

>>54469539
>Never had a marine list without tacticals

What is this HERESY you are talking about ?!

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>>54469471
Dusk raiders (and some pre-heresy Death Guard) are another chapter/legion with unpainted armor, and theirs was a gunmetalish grey.

Leadbelcher would work, but so would a more non-metallic dark grey.

>>54469539
Why would I not use a troop choice? Defenders of humanity makes them worthwhile, and all the stratagems mean I want to get the most CP I possibly can, which means I'll be taking troops

>>54469558
It'll be Formation bonuses brought back from 7th with a CP cost attached.

>>54469434
crimson fists player here. if chaos, then the word bearers. nothing else would do. they are the quintessential chaos legion for me

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>>54469558
One that does not allow Close Combat for the rest of time,even if the opponent plays other games they are not allowed to engage in Close Combat

>>54469558
None, GW will squat tau

Rate my plasma hoard:

[b]++ Patrol Detachment (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [38 PL, 725pts] ++[/b]

[b]+ HQ +[/b]

[b]Tempestor Prime [2 PL, 45pts]:[/b] Power axe, Tempestus Command Rod

[b]+ Troops +[/b]

[b]Militarum Tempestus Scions [6 PL, 128pts][/b]
. 5x Scion: 5x Hot-shot Lasgun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Tempestor: Chainsword, Plasma pistol

[b]Militarum Tempestus Scions [6 PL, 128pts][/b]
. 5x Scion: 5x Hot-shot Lasgun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Tempestor: Chainsword, Plasma pistol

[b]Militarum Tempestus Scions [6 PL, 128pts][/b]
. 5x Scion: 5x Hot-shot Lasgun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Tempestor: Chainsword, Plasma pistol

[b]+ Flyer +[/b]

[b]Valkyries [10 PL, 188pts][/b]
. [b]Valkyrie:[/b] 2x Multiple Rocket Pods, Lascannon
. . 2x Heavy Bolters: 2x Heavy bolter

[b]+ Dedicated Transport +[/b]

[b]Taurox Prime [6 PL, 108pts]:[/b] Taurox Gatling Cannon, Two Autocannons

[b]++ Total: [38 PL, 756pts] ++[/b]

>>54469558
1 point, one units overwatch auto hits this phase.
This is balanced because shock grenades. Make sure to buy a box or 5 of reivers(tm) to add to any imperium of maen (tm) army

>>54469539
tabling the opponent

>>54469558

There will most certainly be a strategem called the Kingslayer, named after the death of the last Raven Guard chapter master Whatshisname. Basically, you can deep strike any giant robot. Also, on the turn it deep strikes, all of its wounds count as mortal wounds.

>>54469105
Coming off of 6th edition 40K Warmahordes had a lot of appeal for me.

Melee ranges per model, broader unit coherency, burning resources to manipulate yoru dice pool... all of that is pretty cool and makes for an interesting game interaction.

The setting sucks so much ass though, and every game boils down to both armies running up turn 1 and then every turn afterwards is playing chicken to avoid an irrecoverable alpha strike.

2D terrain is better than wobbly models, I think.

>>54469616
so what is really the use of using trademarkable names? why drukhari instead of dark eldar?

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>>54468514
Of course Chadnoughts made boxes obsolete, anon, Cawl made them :^)

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>>54469434

Love tier - all flavor of Eldar and Chaos

I get it tier - SM and almost all of the Imperial soup, Tau , Orks

Shouldn't be a faction tier - Nids

Even lower than 'shouldn't be a faction' because they tried and are still boring as FUCK tier - Necrons.

>>54469631
*deepstrikes taunar*
Nothing personnel kid

>>54469648
It's a result of the Chapterhouse lawsuits.

>>54469531
I think any colour works. Metallic or ceramic. Whatever looks good. I think most metallic marines are meant to have unpainted armour.

>>54468514
frag cannon dreadnoughts are pretty fucking great

>>54469653
>Shouldn't be a faction tier - Nids
Nids have one of the oldest and most devoted fanbases in the game, dumbass.

>>54469478
Dude plz I get to play once a month if Im lucky.

>>54469446
Each unit is going to be 30 gaunts. If they're for screening there's probably going to be 2-4 units spread around.

>>54468633
>Power Spears or Lances are the same stat block as Power Mauls
Whyyyy

>>54469434
I find the Dark Eldar really cool and interesting. I play Chaos so obviously like them.

I really don't like the 'specialized' space marines like Space Wolves, Blood Angels and so on. They can't be your dudes at all.

>>54469589
Lorgar pls
Go home and cry, no one is fooled

>>54469653
How can one man have such shit taste

>>54469631
Lolno

Are you guys forgetting the same playtesters who did 8th edition core are also working with GW on all the Codexes, and they consistently dislike Tau and make sure they are balanced so we never see stupid shit like Riptides again?

>>54469265
have you read the Salamanders novels by Nick Kyme or the Blood Angels ones by Shallow?
otherwise I enjoyed those

I heard good things about Dark Hunters too but have not read that personally

>>54469709
>have you read the Salamanders novels by Nick Kyme
Good god, why would you ever recommend those books?

>>54469653
>likes elves and the shitpost-race
>doesnt like tyranids
This post is so fucking reddit it hurts.

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>>54469686
Lets run away together anon, we can play games all day and then cuddle at night ;-;

>>54469723
I liked them?

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>>54469605
You know what WOULD be awesome?

Squats return and get into a conflict with Tau. That'd give Tau something to do and a sense of wars going on that aren't human-centric.

Also, space dorfs.

>>54469207

Where's the Chaos in it

>>54469704
Tau will find a way

>>54469524
I've played 10 games of 8th edition as Tau and I've yet to attack anything at extreme ranges.
I bring too many different units to go first, and so my games always end up being a desperate fighting retreat against fast attack vehicles and deep strikers.

When using the Salamander's flamecraft stratagem does it work on all flamers in your army or just one unit you need to select ?

>>54468037
I pray for the day I get this kind of enjoyment from a seize. Right now, I'm only like that for really wild stuff, like the time 3 terminators with 2 power fists and a chainfist charged my (7E) Chimera and Missed 7 times. Oh, and then all ones for the remaining hits.

If you think I'm crazy lucky though, that same terminator squad in the very next game managed to turn-one KO that same Chimera to death with just an assault cannon from the front. That had me on the metaphorical floor as well.

>>54469471
it depends on the power armor

this is a difficult subject because it's one of those areas where the lore is all over the fucking place. some power armor is plasteel, especially heresy era stuff like corvus that uses magnets (those studs on old power armor) and some is ceramite. plasteel is presumably metallic colored, while ceramite is grayish-white.

the problems start when you have different sources saying different shit like which power armor is which material, nevermind the fact that a lot of power armor is mismatched parts. for me a good rule of thumb would be just pick whichever you like best but make sure the older marks that say they are plasteel are metallic colored, especially on pieces that have magnetic studs.

>>54469762
One unit for that shooting phase.

>>54469568
>>54469559
Somehow in /40kg/ people say taking Tacs, or Troop choices at all, is autolose. So I was wondering.

>>54469739
Demiurg are already space dwarves and are allies of the Tau.

>>54468980
Sammael's going to die?

>>54469756
Find a way to be nerfed after their autistic mathhammer playerbase makes a spreadsheet to find the most point-efficient unit and then spams a dozen of them in every list? Yes.

I guarantee their Commanders, Gun Drones and flamers are all getting points hikes in the Codex. The playtesters will jump on that shit, they drink Tau tears like alcoholics drink liquor.

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I just read Love and Krieg and I now feel empty

>>54469795
I really hope so anon
I really hope so

>>54468464
to get people buying them, they're a straight upgrade over Ironclads.

>>54469783
Man, that's lame. But thanks.

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>>54469804
>Yes, what else is there?...
Right in the feels.

>>54469784
Troops in 40k have often been regarded as a tax. You take them only because the FoC forces you to.

They die to pretty much anything and usually can only kill other troops. They're ball pit tier.

Not sure if that holds for 8th , and obviously it's not going to be true for everyone; but these are the reasons people don't like troops.

>>54469671
DW dreads can't take frag cannons.

>>54468464

Any rules leaked on these guys yet?

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*Blacks your path*

What do?

>>54469653
unironically kill urself man

>>54469844
>Not sure if that holds for 8th
Why are you even talking about old editions when 8th is a completely different game? No one cares about outdated irrelevant information.

If you'd played 8th yet you would know Troops are the core of almost all the best lists, outside of cheese spam lists that will soon be banned or indirectly nerfed.

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>>54469861
Release the patheater

>>54469841
What in the name of the emperor is this? I thought it ended when he proposed!

>>54469793
>he hasn't watched Ronin
>or both Silent Hill films
>or Troy
pls

>>54468555
9 space wolf twin heavy bolter+wolf claw dreads for 1026.

>>54469849
>furioso
>death company
blood angel dreadnoughts definitely can take frag cannons, man

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>>54469861
Interlock my Rhinos into a castle and nuke him

>>54469725
>it's a hate on eldar episode again

You ever get tired of being that guy?

On tabletop, how many units can you usually cram into 6" buff range?

>>54469861
Know I must have fucked up hard to piss off the chillest guy in the universe

>>54469888
What ended when he proposed, O Khornate champion?

>>54469905
not him but no you fucking WAACfag

>>54469897
>>or both Silent Hill films
No one should do that to themselves.

The first one is kinda passable if you don't care about the lore rape and see it as an alternate continuity.

Never, ever, ever watch the second one. It's not even bad enough to be enjoyably bad, it's just a fucking waste of time on a level I can't begin to explain.

>>54469881
k fine, riddle me this: In what way is a Tactical squad more useful to me than devastator squad or veteran squad?

When going MSU, do you guys take Rhino or Razorback these days after their points increase?

>>54469916
>played GK since 3rd Ed
>WAAC

wew

>>54469682
>Eldar+chaos faggot
>not a faggot
pick one
>>54469921
As a Silenthillfag since the beginning I am very used to lore rape by now ;_;

>>54469434
Anything imperium/enclaves

Eldar. God I find them so fucking lame.

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>>54469914
SOMEONE BETTER LINK ME THE FULL STORY OR BY GOD I WILL SNAP SOME NECKS!

Are tactical squads better than intercessor squads?

In my mind, all they have over them is a heavy and special weapon.

Can intercessors be taken in groups of 10 yet?

>>54469905
>implying most people don't hate eldar and I must be one particular guy
It's kind of telling that you're admitting to me you've had to defend this shit position before because most people call you out on your shit taste

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>>54468555
I don't think ChadDread is appropriate. Fatty dread maybe. Or chromosome enriched. Pic related.

>>54469921
the second one is a marvel to me, I watched with my sister and some cousins and while they were enjoying it just fine by the moment "thing" that happens at the end of the movie I just burst out laughing at the sheer ridiculousness of the scene

>>54469958
They can come the codex.

>>54469960
I'm not him, buddy. I play nids, eldar, guard, and gk.

>>54469965
pregnaught

>>54469965
>Leviathlet thinking it's hotshit
>Leviathlet pretending it's not fat

>>54469434
while I'm a hardcore Imperiumfag I understand people that like all other factions, hell even Tau if you're a WAACfag

but the ironically the groups I struggle to remember are IH and RG

I just can't remember they are a thing

>>54469965
Do marines inside the dread see through that tiny slit on sarcophage?

>>54469930
It's way cheaper and fills out a Troops slot, which means easier to get more Command Points, has ObSec, and more bodies for cost.

I can shoot Devastators off the table with the same ease I can shoot Tacticals off the table, but the Tacticals are way less point-efficient per kill for me.

I love seeing Devastators, they make Mortal Wounds into pure value trades.

>>54469881
I don't claim to know very much at all about 8th.

>>54469795
As a Tau player, I hope so. It sucks having a couple units outshine everything else.