Warhammer 40k General /40kg/

First for the hope that this will be a good thread

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First for dreadnoughtsa best

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For the greater good!

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Okay there's something I dont understand..
It looks like most of you have ONE (1) army of like 1k to 2k Points and basically meme every other army.
Most people I know IRL and on other forum have 4+ forces with mainly around 1 or 2 really complete army, unless they've been playing for less than 2 years.

I'm a basic French College Student working at BurgerKing on the side and Summer/Holiday pay rent etc yet I have (only bought on internet discounter and non-GW flgs)

3k Of Scions (counting Vultures and Vendettas) -WiP/Still in box
4k Of Catachan - WiP
4k Of T'au (mainly suits) - Fully painted
3k Of Tyranids - Fully painted
3k Of Knights (Ill give you that this one is pretty cheap) - Fully painted & magnetized
bits and lone kits of SM, Necron, Ogors, DarkElf, Stormcasts, One Nagash and other thing like that.
And I'll probably start Primaris RavenGuard or Orks (If they update the models) this year.
I also have Gundams/Hot Toys/Sideshow Statues/LEGO UCS etc
And that's ONE of my hobbies (Tho the others are mainly sports)

And thats not even big compared to other people I play with, granted the T'au and Tyranid where bought over the span of
3 years in HS.
And thats without the (Soon coming) blessed 5-10years just after graduation when you get your House Deposit, your full pay and no kids AND can spend 1k a month on toys like its nothing AND still easily able to go out/on holiday AND save momey etc.

So like Wtf ?
With most of you shitposting about how 2nd/3rd edition were better I figured you would have 50k points of painted minis lying around and another 30k of unpainted/still in box.

Its like /40kg/ is populated with NZers too dumb for a POBox in UK that have their ONE (1) Ultramarines 2k list half painted not based and thats it.

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Are Orks keeping the Emperor alive

>>54404195
Thats your problem. Thinking more than 15% of the people who post here even play, let alone build or paint models

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>>54404199
No

yes

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>TFW Iron Warriors will never get mech back

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>>54404199
I love orks.
>racial goal is taking over the galaxy
>don't actually care about said goal though
>even Ghazkull, who can talk to the gods, doesn't actually want to he just wants to fight alongside his gods

>>54404195
>With most of you shitposting about how 2nd/3rd edition were better I figured you would have 50k points of painted minis lying around and another 30k of unpainted/still in box.
In my case I sold off, lost or otherwise misplaced a bunch of stuff over the years. Life happens basically, especially as I was in my teens playing 2nd/3rd edition.

Like a lot of hobbies this is one that comes and go in life, even if I'd held on to my stuff I wouldn't have been collecting it for 15 years or so straight.

>>54404195
Honestly, I personally only got into the hobby towards the end of 7th edition, I'd heard of it before then, and when I was younger I tried to get into it, but I couldn't afford it.
Now I have roughly 2000 points of CSM and 1500 points of Daemons, it's growing though.
Hell I'm still reading the Horus Heresy series of books now that I've gotten into it.

I'm slightly confused: Does your army need to be pure to get chapter tactics, or just your detachment?

>>54404195
Nah, I think a lot of people here have multiple armies (I do) though maybe don't always want to admit how bad their self-control is or how big their painting backlog is (I don't). But if you're posting about tactics for a certain force, or asking advice on a list, it's not really relevant to add "btw I also have x y and z armies" to that post, so it'll seem like that person only has that army.

>>54404199
They help a little.

>>54404281
Dunno, codex isn't out yet and GW haven't leaked the particular page that specifies it. Ask again in like a week.

>>54404195
Nah, I got

>3k-4K of Admech
>3k of Taghmata
>6k+ of space marines, both 30k and 40k
>3k of Custodes (painted, but what a short-sighted decision...)
>3k of grey knights
>3k of imperial Knights
>1k of Inquisitorial stormtroopers/Inquisition
>unkown value in points of varied deathwatch, Dark Angels, daemons, and Eldar.

I imagine most people, like me, have a wide collection but mainly identify with a single faction or two.

>>54404266

I'm pretty sure the racial goal of the Orks was to act as foot soldiers for the old ones, and the reason they give no shits about anything is because their masters vanished literally 65 million years ago.

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>>54404266

>>54404195
>stupid fuckface thinks the rest of world only pays 250 bucks per full time college semester like he does

you dumb summer fuck

>>54404289

Whilst there are definately WAAC implications like say, running a firebase detachment of ravenguard with a white scars assault detachment or whatever, I'm more curious because I'd rather you don't lose your chapter's tabletop flavour because you wanted to ally in a Culexus.

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PRIMARIS MARINES IN THE HOUSE TONIGHT
EVERYBODY JUST HAVE A GOOD TIME

>>54404311
Its 12000€/year for me in France, faggot. Amd thats the average Business School.

>>54404318
>Primaris babbies
>Ultrasmurfs
low quality b8 m8

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Tournament coming up this weekend,
Max 2 detachments, no FW, Killpoints decide bulk of missions.

Think I'll do alright?

>>54404281
At this point, a Space Marine army is free to have detachments mixed up with any chapters you like.
You want Deathwing terminators, Space Wolf Wulfen, Blood Angel Furioso Dreadnoughts, Grey Knight Paladins and Deathwatch Kill Teams all in one list? Go for it.

>>54404316
If I had to guess, I'd go with it being detachment not army for that exact reason. But that is just a guess, didn't want to give the impression it's officially confirmed or anything.

>>54404341
Never mind, didn't fully read to see question was regarding the Chapter tactics

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>>54404156
Saw this posted in the other thread; and it makes me wonder, what exactly will be in it? New stratagems and missions? Or will we get new units? Any possibility of specific sub factions coming back?

My hopes:
>Kroot Mercenary list
>More Chapter Tactics for obscure chapters
>Looted Wagons for Orkz

Do yall have any ideas, or recollections of old Chapter Approved stuff?

++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (T'au Empire) [45 PL, 753pts] ++

+ HQ [3 PL, 51pts] +

Ethereal [3 PL, 51pts]: Equalizers [1pts], Hover Drone [1 PL, 5pts]

+ Elites [42 PL, 702pts] +

3 * XV9 Hazard Support Team [14 PL, 234pts]: 4x MV1 Gun Drone [32pts]
2 * XV9 Hazard Battlesuit: Advanced targeting system 2x Double-barelled burst cannon

++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (T'au Empire) [31 PL, 609pts] ++

+ HQ [11 PL, 218pts] +

Aun'Shi [4 PL, 68pts]

Commander in XV86 Coldstar Battlesuit [7 PL, 150pts]: Advanced targeting system [8pts], High-output burst cannon [20pts], Missile pod [24pts], Shield generator [8pts]

+ Troops [18 PL, 360pts] +

3 * Kroot Carnivores [6 PL, 120pts]: 20x Kroot

+ Elites [2 PL, 31pts] +

Kroot Shaper [2 PL, 31pts]: Kroot rifle

++ Vanguard Detachment (T'au Empire) [30 PL, 638pts] ++

+ HQ [3 PL, 50pts] +

Ethereal [3 PL, 50pts]: Honour blade, Hover Drone [1 PL, 5pts]

+ Elites [27 PL, 588pts] +

3 * XV9 Hazard Support Team [7 PL, 149pts]: 2x MV1 Gun Drone, 2x Fusion cascade, Multi-tracker
XV9 Hazard Support Team [6 PL, 141pts]: MV1 Gun Drone
. XV9 Hazard Battlesuit [5 PL, 133pts]: 2x Fusion cascade, Multi-tracker

++ Total: [106 PL, 2000pts] ++
I want to meme this list into total dickery.

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>>54404195
If that helps I'm a chaos fag who just started around may and I'll have around 3k points next in two weeks.
Definitely will buy eldar and perhaps dkok in future because i like the models.
Also, SM 13 year olds.
Here, have a fresh meme

>>54404295
>3k of Custodes (painted, but what a short-sighted decision...)
could you elaborate ?

>>54404199
>kill all xenos, or keep the emperor alive
kek

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>>54404195
> I have all these toy soldiers why
> I don't have a gf
It's really not that difficult to decipher this post

How would /tg/ feel if I used Khorne berserkers as standard assault marines?
How about vice versa?
What if I played my death company army as world eaters, calling my chaplain a dark apostle, my death company bezerkers and my dreads hell brutes?
How about if I wanted to use volkite weapons as plasma, would that be okay?
What about tactical marines as stern guard?
Or Warp talons as vanguard with lighning claws?

Just want to get a feel on tg's opinions on such things, also you lgs if you have one

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Why are they so happy?

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The Redemptor looks great and dreadlets are just bitter.

>>54404388
Because they have a fully painted board and armies.
That is enough to smile and be happy

>>54404392
>That BFG

>>54404372
Horus Heresy looked like it would be cruising as popular forever, so I went in and bought the army. Now 8th is out and literally no one wants to play HH. But it's okay cause I like the models

>>54404392
That torso is awful, but the limbs look great.

>>54404388
Because GW told them their plans for the dark angels going traitor

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>>54404354
>recollections of old Chapter Approved stuff?

I remember the old Chapter Approved stuff from the 3rd ed era of White Dwarf; alternate rules for things like the Relictors, Black Dragons and Flame Falcon Chapters. That was a good time.

>>54404388
he's not measuring distance with that tape measure

>>54404406
Im mad that forge world stoped selling the Sanguinius model

>>54404385
if everything is proxied for everytjthe ing it can be really confusing.
Dont mind each of them individually but this could be tiresome to remember since basically nothing would have the corresponding model

>>54404392
The legs look a little skimpy.

>>54404388
Maybe they're not autistic WAAC faggots.

>>54404392
It's that fucking big?

Though why the fuck am I surprised? Every kid wants to be the one with the biggest toy. So of course they did a solid number on the dreadnought while they worked over the marines.

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I wonder if we're going to get a Mortarion Vs. Papasmurf box set at some point since they're pushing Death Guard and Ultramarines

>>54404406
I did the same thing friendo. Now just to wait for 8th rules for HH. I guess i'll be able to use them in about 6 years right before 9th drops

>>54404403
Big Fat Gay?

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>>54404433
>Even Funko Mechs BTFO marinelets

>>54404392
that rocket launcher is pretty tacked on but aside from that pretty cool.

>>54404441
Big Fucking Gun

>>54404426
cool thank you

>>54404434
>mortarion has the upper hand
>some makes a sacrifice to save gorillaman
>girlyman gets a hit in
>mortarion flees

Every time

>>54404458
maybe mortarion can get a second autograph on his heart!

>>54404195
Most people here are indecisive and have collected a lot of random shit. Poor self control because lots of stuff seems cool. Incompleted armies because they do a squad of one army, then start reading about another and stop and go paint them or buy them. Now people have tons of incomplete pieces and slightly painted minis most of which they won't get to play with. The amount of people here that don't have access to a good store is sad.

I played a lot in 3rd and 5th and back then I bought a lot of stuff that seemed cool. So I have about 1k of Sisters, 1k of Inquisition, 4k of Guard, 1k of random models and some Blood Angels stuff my mom got me one year. That's the stuff I bought, then I was given about 1k of Chaos and 1-2k of Tyranids from friends who quit back in 4th. I only ever painted like 500 points of SIsters and 1000 points of Guard, but it was shit painting.

I came back 6 months before 7th ended and I started seriously working on my army. I stripped a bunch of stuff and now I've painted about 2-3k of Guard, but I bought a lot of stuff and did a lot of conversions so there's a lot of work to be done still. So my primary army is Guard mixed with Ministorum units. I recently also split a Dark Imperium Box with someone so I have 2 sets of Death Guard, so that's about 1.5k of them which will be my second army.

I'm also considering getting stripping the Tyranids and getting some GSC models so I can do a GSC/Guard/Nids list. I also will probably lazily use my Guard as R&H to use with my Death Guard sometimes. First things first though, I have to try to finish up my Guard and Ministorum units.

>>54404454
I'm pretty sure he is talking about marines.
So Big Fat Gay makes sense in this case

>>54404354
I think you're going to be disappointed. I'd expect things like adjustments to matched play rules, new mission types and probably some campaign rules.

I think it's highly unlikely that GW will release army lists for Kroot Mercenaries (or feral orks) because "we don't make models for that".

Unless there's significant change to GWs policy there, or they release new kits, or FW put Kroot units back into production I think you're out of luck.

What I personally want is some kind of vehicle design rules, but I think that's even less likely.

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>Always been a fan of Tau
>Got a Hammerhead and some Firewarriors as my very first wargame stuff when I was 13
>Started to play for real with 500 point games as an adult at the end of 5th edition
>6th edition codex comes around with the riptides and everyone starts hating the Tau
>Stop playing because demoralized
>8th edition comes out and I hear Tau isn't considered WAAC anymore just some fringe Commander spam that isnt even acknowledged as OP
>Got a huge backlog of stuff that Ive gotten as gifts from friends and family
>Even a stormsurge that imo looks really cool
>Go down to lgs to look at stuff like paints, brushes and such (old paint is dried or brushes destroyed/mishandled)
>Overhear 40k regulars talking about how they hate Tau and Tau players
>Like /tg/ levels of Tau rage
>Feelsbadman.jpg

I honestly don't feel like playing Tau anymore eventhough they're my favorite army looks and rules wise.

Should I just sell my shit and start a new army?

>>54404458
No more like
>Mortarion btfo guilliman
>Villainmonologue.jpg
>Khan come out of the warp and impale Morty on his bike
>Khan brofist Gully and they ride on home Khan's harley

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>>54404156
Binaric screeching intensifies. Cawl is heretek.

>>54404392

It's too mismatched, kinda Orky because the limbs and body don't match up.

Still, doesn't really matter: The rules we've seen for it place it as a low-tier dread unit unless the datasheet has some asspull rule like "Primaris are best: This model may shoot twice if it stands still or fight twice if it charged".

>>54404354
>kroot mercenarys
>ork savages
>salvar chemdogs
i remember all those from old chapter approved, and i want them back

>>54404450
Seems like one of those bits you can decide not to attach.

>>54404392
Heavy Ordnance Gatling Cannon sounds ridiculously contrived

>>54404474
You carry on with the greater good regardless.

>>54404468
Must be cool to come back 10 years later and see your whole 4k of guard is still not updated and with basically the same rules. Saves a hassle. Lots of army would have been invalidated by that time

>>54404491
Enslavers would be cool.
It was a rather easy way to play with what ever you had

>>54404479
I really hope gulliman comes out as Alpharius and swaps his personality. As it is Gulliman is becoming more and more gary stuish.
>capcha exit hospital
Like gulliman exited the healing stasis pod

>>54404510
>having 2 decade old models is nice
>having the same army list for a decade is nice
What?

>>54404474

>Be Ork and Nid player

>Since 4th edition hit, winrate hovers around 25-35%

>Everybody wants to play with you

>Get messages to set-up games

>40k time fully booked in 1 month in advance

>>54404474
>letting other people influence what you play

>>54404474
Just buy 6 Commanders and stomp them

>>54404504
But people dont even want to play against me.

>>54404516
He won't be killed or revealed as Alpharius. They JUST released his model and a shit load of people bought him. It's why Mortarian won't die either, it nullifies a purchase if people know that they just end up dying anyway. Why go to the effort of painting and putting a character together if they release a new novel that says he died?

>>54404439
Yep, I'll just be here waiting....

Honestly I'm not mad though, I'm thrilled with 8th and happy to see oldfag and newcomer alike enjoying themselves. I should've just bought Thousand sons like everyone else

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>>54404516
if that happens use this

>>54404561
where do you live ? there must be another flgs

>>54404569
I don't think the gulliman Alpharius thing is realistic I just hate how gullimans being writen.

So how viable is a classic style representative of a company army now?

You know: A classic, generic core like... 20 Tacs, 10 Devs, 10 assault marines, Captain, Dreadnought.... then whatever terminator/veteran/scout/tank/librarian/chaplain support you have points left over for and feel like. No units newer than about 3rd edition.

Sallies are up:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/19/chapter-focus-salamanders-july19gw-homepage-post-3/

>>54404613
Sweet

>>54404510
I was actually a little happy about that, it felt like I never quit. Now that I'm really into the hobby and excited, I'm ready to see a new update for us sometime in the future. I was really happy about the Bullgryn and Scion models when I came back into it. Now I have 8 Bullgryn and Nork in my army and a bunch of Scion models. Wasn't sure what to do with the Kasrkin models, so I've made them the bodyguard of my Inquisitor in Terminator armor. Either as Acolytes with Hellguns or deepstriking with him using Scion rules.

>>54404588
tacticals are as underwhelming as ever, even if cover and split fire helps them out

Salamanders article is up, though it doesn't say much (and of course we already know their tactic).
>Salamanders armies will be able to combine these Chapter Tactics with a range of other options in the codex to create some great armies. Salamanders Characters in particular are going to be some of the most powerful in the game, and it’s more than possible to have a Captain in Gravis Armour with Strength 5 and Toughness 6(!) through their unique warlord trait and relic.
>The Salamanders’ unique Stratagem, Flamecraft, greatly boosts the power of flamer weapons of all shapes and sizes
TELL US HOW YOU FUCKS
>while their unique character, Vulkan He’stan, offers further benefits to generals who want to bring the heat to the battlefields of the 41st Millennium.

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>>54404588
Anything that isn't 5-man special or heavy weapon squads or Salamanders is invalid now didn't you hear?

And they say the game isn't for kids...

>>54404458
The rulebook already spoiled the fight. Morty gets told to leave by nurgle, virus bombs and leaves the planet. Ultrasmurfs win BUT AT WHAT COST

>Finally, the Salamanders can make great use of one of the most powerful units in the new codex: the Aggressors. In a Salamanders army, you’ll want to equip yours with Flamestorm Gauntlets; these powerful weapons benefit hugely from Flamecraft in the shooting phase and gain deadly accuracy from Master Artisans in the combat phase. A firebase of Aggressors surrounding Vulkan He’Stan is going to be nigh impregnable and is especially terrifying when you consider that these walking fortresses can fire twice if they remain still in the movement phase.
So this confirms agressors have the special ability to fire twice if they don't move? That's preety good I guess. Depends on what they're weapons are.
18 HB and 12 krak missles per turn would be worth 200 points I'd say

>>54404156

>binaric screeching

i'm hearing dial up modem startup

>>54404613
>A firebase of Aggressors surrounding Vulkan He’Stan is going to be nigh impregnable and is especially terrifying when you consider that these walking fortresses can fire twice if they remain still in the movement phase.
>Aggressors fire twice if they remain still in the movement phase
Oh boy.

>>54404573
8th is pretty great. And im in the process of converting their rules from inferno and have a group who wont REEE if i use them, so whatever. FW can take their time

>>54404613

Aggressors sound weird. Are their gauntlets power fists or not? Because twin power fists conflicts very heavily with gets to shoot twice if stand still.

Also I've wanted shooty terminators for years, so getting Gravis shooty almost-terminators seems very monkey's paw.

>>54404613
That redemptor looks horrific in green

>>54404474
i feel you
>IG player
>fully painted, converted etc death korps army
>usually people refuse me games because the death korps are forgeworld
>now with 8th they refuse me outright and call me a cheese player even with normal guard

>>54404675
It's like riptide wing.

>>54404675
So they get an AoS without needing to roll to get it.

Marine players will bitch about it regardless

I want to do some Gay Knights after I finish up my current army as a support force for some Daemon hunting fun. What're some good themes for a GK army list? Best HQs? Any must take/avoid units to take note of?

>>54404655
That was round 1. After the Konor war resolves, it's gonna be round 2.

>>54404575
Sadly not.
next is a bigger city hours of travel away.

>>54404687

Seriously, add some black paneling to break it up before you blind someone.

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Looking forward to Iron Hands tomorrow

I really want them to just get some love for a change

Speaking of - I'm doing an Iron Hands successor chapter, and I'm having a really hard time coming up with a suitable name for them - included in the pic (some of you might have seen this guy before, but I'm only posting him for an idea of vibe)

>>54404698
Depends on how much they cost. If they're 200 to 250 points they'll be worth it.
If they're 300 points or so, then they'll be utter shit

>>54404711
I'd recommend playing a different game entirely.

>>54404718
See they are already bitching

>>54404717
What's their fluff?

>>54404717
Alloy astartes?

>>54404691
Id let you table me any day.
Krieg look cool as fuck.

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>>54404725
>saying that how much a unit costs will determine if it's worth it or not is bitching

>>54404723
I've been playing x-wing and star wars armada but they don't really scratch that itch. Only other popular wargame here is AoS.

>>54404717
The Iron Hearts

>>54404700

Nothing in the GK list is crazy op (except arguably stormravens)

Nothing is really bad

Pretty much anything you pick can work well.

Just be aware that falchions are the best melee weapon and psylencers the best heavy weapon

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>>54404156
>too busy at work to browse
>the new thread is my shitpost from earlier
This is better than any amount of (You)s, thank you based OP

>>54404717
Angelus Mercurious

>>54404663
>18 HB and 12 krak missles per turn would be worth 200 points I'd say
Are other marine players seriously this delusional?

>>54404613
>Salamanders Characters in particular are going to be some of the most powerful in the game, and it’s more than possible to have a Captain in Gravis Armour with Strength 5 and Toughness 6(!) through their unique warlord trait and relic. The Salamanders’ unique Stratagem, Flamecraft, greatly boosts the power of flamer weapons of all shapes and sizes

>>54404746
That's even worse, but it explains much about the bitching.
I guess go with the flow and use the readily available and cheap primaris to make a marine force and use your tanks from tau with them. Just say they're actually battlesuits or something and run them as ultramarines.

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>>54404691
That's what you get when you never receive anything but power creep with your army. If it's any consolation, I'd play with you. I like the challenge of beating cheese armies.

>>54404700
One or two small terminator units supported by power armoured specialists.
Voldus and Draigo are really good HQ choices.
Purifiers only work well if you build your list around enabling them to use their 3'' Smite as much as possible.

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DREADLETS BTFO

Stat that plasma cannon right now /tg/.

Also FlamersGautlets agressor confirmed

>>54404790
Heavy 3 S8 Ap4 D3

>>54404790
I wonder if GW knows people usually have to transport models around.

>>54404770
In what world is it not?
9 krak missles alone kill rhino stat lines in one turn, and 54 HB shots kills 4 termies on average.
At 200 points they'd be more than able to make their points back, while not being so terribly under costed as to break the game.
What would you say that's worth?

>>54404479
>Dragio come out of the warp and carves ANOTHER name on Morty's heart.

Ftfy

>>54404790
I actually like the fluff about Redemptor dreadnougths. They're just a new type of dreadnought, not specially for primarines. And the machine puts its occupant under more strain than other types of dreads, which leads to Redemptor pattern dreadnoughts burning through 'drivers' a lot quicker. So it is more powerfull, but at a price. That is good GrimDark writing.

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>>54404790
Why does that new dred have a Ghostkeel Ion Raker?

>>54404808
No anon, they would be horribly undercosted. Generally when people talk about units "making their points back" they mean over the course of the game, not in a single fucking turn.

>>54404836
this.

>>54404199
maybe

:yes:

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>Read up about Sergeant Tellion and look at his rules
>Damn, he's pretty sick. Kinda want an army with him leading lots of scouts and shit
>Tell my friend who's a DG player that I'll finally jump into 40k
>Plan is to get starter kit and some scouts, while giving my friend the Death Guard models
>Flips out when I tell him I'm playing Ultramarines
>"I'm never versing you dude! I hate the smurfs! kys fag"

I didn't realise admitting your playing Ultramarines is like coming out of the closet to a family of rednecks. Should I expect this type of hate at tournaments or casual games?

>>54404790

We already know the stats for the plasma cannon, it's a garbage D6 shot weapon.

The stats are pretty good if you ignore number of shots: S8/9 AP-4 damage 1/2.

>>54404806
>new cases to carry your new primaris

>>54404195
>literally only play tyranids
>core units have had the same kits for 10-15 years
>overwhelming majority of new units are worthless as game pieces

From the since the end of 3rd edition I bought:
Replacement hive tyrants when the plastic kit came out because 3rd editionhive tyrants sucked and broke constantly.
Replacement carnifexes when the plastic kit came out because 3rd edition carnifexes sucked and broke constantly.
36 genestealers
6 hive guard
2 brood lords
2 tervigons
A trygon/mawloc

Nothing else was worth buying that entire time.

>>54404686
>Aggressors sound weird.

It is a real word. Means someone or something that attacks first.

>Are their gauntlets power fists or not?

The one on the DI captain is, so would think these are as well.

>Because twin power fists conflicts very heavily with gets to shoot twice if stand still.

Shooty terminators got power fists as well.

>>54404854
Games workshop jewing us again

>>54404663
I'm fairly sure those are Boltstorm Guantlets (like on the Gravis Captain), not heavy bolters.

>>54404829
Because Robert, after having an intense hand-holding sessions with his wife, noticed the blue people were blenders and decided to copy them. He then passed it on to the other chapters.

>>54404852
Your friend sounds real life autistic

>>54404829
Two reasons
Either Tau copy glorious Imperial tech as it was implied in 3rd
Or Tau tech is so basic that Cawl made a better version in a cave, alone

>>54404827

>Cuts corners on life support
>Leviathan sized but nowhere near the power

Eh.

>>54404790
Heavy D3
S 8
AP -4
D D6
Guess the weapon I pulled these from

>>54404836
You know, looking at the math now, and considering they'll be T5 2W 2A 3+, yeah, 200 points would definitely be undercosted. Probably should have mathhammered it out first, considering 18 HB alone can kill 248 points of termies without wargear in a single turn, and will kill another one on overwatch.

>>54404354
It will probably be like the General's Handbook for AoS which is good for atleast getting some competiveness out of AoS. Will likely do the same to 8th even though it is already more competitive than AoS (but could be more so desu).

>>54404852
Only the most severe autists react like your friend does. But people do dislike Ultramarines generally, so you can expect a lot of tongue-in-cheek remarks about them and Rawbooty Gorillaman.

>>54404392
Oh god I dread (lol) when those mini guns are going to be released, fucking things will probably be like that horde killing Taurox Gat Cannon that fires 28 S4 shots

My poor boys can't handle firepower of that magnitude

>>54404861

Shooty terminators don't exist, only tactical and assault.

And I mean the unit sounds weird, not the name.

>>54404872
>blue people were blenders
I'm very confused but it sounds hillarious

>>54404891
>Shooty terminators don't exist

Sure they do. They're the ones that aren't all choppy. When you got a model with a twin-missile launcher and a twin-bolter (like the aggressors), why would it be carrying a power fist as well? It's not like you're suppose to run up to someone and punch them.

>>54404854
I basically need their own separate boxes for stuff like Knights and Celestine.

Fucking centerpiece models with wide as fuck and delicate parts

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Are you ready for the Noise Marine comeback?

>>54404195
This guy basically >>54404279
Anyones thats played for many editions haven't player continuesly (most likely) and if they have they would likely match your description.

>>54404878

No seriously, we know the macro plasma incinerator's statline, it's here:

>>54404853

From the live stream last Friday.

>>54404877
>Leviathan sized but nowhere near the power

Rules =/= fluff

Though I do wish my marines were able to one-shot Tau Riptides with a single krak grenade ...

>>54404691
>>54404474
Sounds like bad feels. What always surprises me is when someone gets super upset with like 1 thing in my army and brings it up all game.

I play aggressively. I run Conscripts, Rough Riders, Infantry squads with plasma and power maul, Straken, Nork, Bullgryn, Crusaders, Death Cult Assassins, Repentia, stuff like that. Then I usually have a Manticore or 1 Tank Commander. People always pick the Manticore to be upset with or the Tank Commander and blame it every time I'm doing well. Even though it's mostly the melee units doing the work, they still harp on the fact that I brought 1-2 tanks during and after the game.

>>54404852
No, you're friend is just an autist. Smurfs are fine, anyone who still hates them is retarded

>>54404880
There's also the fact that, assuming there aren't major changes in the codex, we know the points costs for space marine guns. If a squad of 3 aggressors have 6 heavy bolters (10 points each) and 3 cyclone missile launchers (50 points each) then we'd be looking at 210 points just for the guns.

I still suspect the hand weapons may be the same boltstorm gauntlets as the gravis captain has, but we'll have to see. Would be a slightly schizophrenic loadout if so, though.

>>54404912
Aren't noise dreadnoughts a thing too?

>>54404829
Because Cawl didn't send the AdMech forces to Damocles to HELP the Imperial forces.

>He was all about stealing that sweet T'au tech

>>54404909

No, those are tactical terminators, you fucking muppet.

>>54404887
The gatling gun of the Redemptor shoots 12 shots with heavy bolter stats.

>>54404921
Yep

>>54404899
In fluff the tau are very good at killing a lot of dudes really quickly and efficiently.
Which reminds me of the dedicated high elf melee units in Fantasy like the SMoH or even their base spearmen.

>>54404613
>it’s more than possible to have a Captain in Gravis Armour with Strength 5 and Toughness 6(!) through their unique warlord trait and relic
> unique warlord trait and relic
>trait and relic
>Singular
blegh so each sub faction only gets one of each?
WOW
ITS FUCKING NOTHING

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>>54404929
I can dig that.
Admech is a cool kind of heresy.

>>54404932
And can buy a second 6 shot heavy bolter for 18 S5 AP-1 D1 shots

>>54404929
And making it better.
Humans > Tau

>>54404195
This brings to mind, I've been playing for a little over a year now and I have about
3k of Orks (all primed, half painted)
1.5k of CSM (all primed, half painted)
(i thjnk this is quite a lot considering how long i've played, maybe too much)

I think I need to spend a lot more time painting before getting much more, I've been working pretty hard on a bunch of nurgle stuff I got for my CSM recently but I keep getting more models so I can have more flexibility in my lists and actually beat people.

>>54404950
>codex comes with 26 stratagems and 6 general warlord traits, plus one for each chapter
>that's still not enough for some faggots.
Fuck you, you're what make us marine players look like fags

>>54404950
WAACfag detected

>>54404956

And it's BS3+ rather than the 2+ of any other dread that size, but needs to pay for a fist.

So either you shoot at BS4+ or you have a 40+ point wasted fist. Enjoy!

>>54404970
Not him, but to be fair. Going from 4-6 relics a faction to 1 per faction feels sad.

>>54404388
I'm happy when I play 40k but I don't usually smile unless something funny happened or I got my plans worked really well or/and I got extremely lucky. Although seeing fully painted armies fighting on good terrain is really awesome to behold.

>>54404931
>use the correct term, p-phaget!

Not surprising, when a model with guns having power fists confuses you so much.

>>54404950
>marine players are bitching about free stuff
>12 years old am I right?

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>>54404873
I wish he was cause that would explain a lot.

>>54404885
>>54404919
Glad to hear. Sergeant Tellion seems like a cool character, so I'm happy to hear most people won't tell me to end my life because my plastic men are blue.

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>Those IF rules
how fucking boring. Not quite sure about playing them now.

>>54404984
>relics
I only had relics like months before 7th ended.

>>54404403
Looks nothing like the BFG desu, that's a gatling gun if anything. Also wouldn't flame throwers be cool in Doom?

>>54404806
Primaris armies are going to be like two-three dozen models at best

>>54404790
casualfag here
is it just me or does plasma seem pretty bad on vehicles in 8th?

>>54404975
Which isn't too bad. It really depends on price of Redempt

Comparing Ven AutoCannon to DakkaNu

If stationary:
>6.66 Autocannon shots vs. 12 Heavybolter shots

If Moving:
>5.33 Autocannon shots vs. 9 Heavybolter shots.

So Redempts better for horde control.

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>>54404790
>Don't speak to me or my chapters son ever again

>>54404920
I doubt it's a heavy bolter. The Gravis captain with a similar fist and gun setup just has a 3 shot bolt pistol on the gauntlet.

>>54404790
>even in death I'm still a manlet

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>>54404950
Oh no, one relic, so sad. It's not like there were armies that didn't even have viable relics or anything.

Given the primaris salamanders are 10,000 years old, I wonder if he'stan has been badgering them to see if they know where the relics are.

>>54405015
Only if you overcharged it like a retard.

>>54405009
Seems accurate. I currently use a 25 miniature force.

>>54405002
Faction? Only ones that jump to mind are Sisters of Silence / Custodes

>>54405016

A more accurate comparison would be to Mortis with quad heavy Bolters: The game's cheapest dread at 109 points.

>>54404852
A normal person that hates ultramarines would just make a point of pushing your shit in as hard as possibl. Refusing to play someone at all is awful sportsmanship and the height of faggotry.

>>54404474
>Should I just sell my shit and start a new army?
Yep

>>54405044
>caring about npcs
>>>/co/

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Thinkin about picking up the FW Iron Warriors upgrade pack and had some questions concerning its design

What's the relevance of the star and also tassel?

>>54405033
Yeah, and today's article says that the alternate weapons for aggressors are "flamestorm gauntlets", so it'd make sense for those to be boltstorm gauntlets. Follows the same naming convention and that.

>>54405045
This humors me

>>54404265
every fucking thread pert and magnus are posted, i swear to the fucking gods. why is /tg/ obsessed with the two most autistic chaos primarchs?

>>54404950
That just means he used one relic+trait to give the captain S5/T6, there may be more relics per chapter but yeah the unique stratagem/warlord trait is just one per chapter. Which is fine as there are crapton of generic stuff to get.

As a Black Templar player I am glad to get chapter specific relics back! Holy orb of Antioch? Cenobyte servitors? A cool sword? SHIT YEAH MOTHERFUCKER!.

>>54404997
>Not waiting for the stategems, warlord trait and relic
>When the WS 2'' bonus on Advance is only usefull in combination with their strategem

wew lad

>>54405015

Plasma is inefficient on platforms that can't take much of it.

For example, a Dreadnought can take one plasma cannon, two if Mortis, whilst Devastators can take four. The Devs have good firepower, the dreads don't.

Meanwhile if we compare weapons the dreadnought can take two of on one arm, those come out more favourably for points spent to firepower ratio.

So to answer your question: Yes, plasma is usually shitty on vehicles because for some reason vehicles tend to not carry as much of it as infantry do.

>>54405077
>why is /tg/ obsessed with the two most autistic chaos primarchs?
>why is /tg/ obsessed with the two most autistic
>why is /tg/ the most autistic

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>>54405068
So Iron Warriors remember that they're all one star scum, lowest of the low.

>>54404634
Disagree. I've been doing a small pseudo-campaign of small games prepping me and my friends for fate of Konor, and they're not half bad. We've got Inquisition (Scions, Assassins, GK, and Inquositors proper), Space Marines (Bluhd Rehvens), Eldar, and CSM/Daemons (khornate), and tacs actually do quite well against light-armored targets.

They down cultists and guardians with ease, and even do a number on Scions when they aren't in cover. They ain't fantastic but for objective grabbing and siphoning of light infantry (i.e. what tacticals are meant for) they're really good at it. Just make sure to bring along a special/heavy weapon and a friendly razorback.

What do you use for wound markers TG?

>>54405015
>>54405091
Also don't forget that Overcharging Plasma on vehicles hurts a hell of a lot more than on a single Infantry model.

>Losing/Crippling a Vehicle with Plasma is 100+pt investment melting.
>Losing an Infantry with Plasma... ehh who cares.

>>54405077
Considering that /tg/ is basically the thread for lore-autist, power armour mark autist, and accuracy in general autists, you should not be surprised.

>>54405118
D6's for small models
D20's for larger

>>54405118
a bought a pack of like 10 d20 in my flgs

>>54405118
Dice. Somehow there's always some dice around when playing a game, so might as well. It's rather convenient :^)

>>54405077
>most autistic chaos primarch
>not mentioning Lion el'Jonson

>>54405132
D6, D8, D10, D12, D20s And a pair of D12s for my Knights.

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>>54404195
I started with 3rd edition, when I was like 11 and had about 2k of Blood Angels horribly painted (I'd get so excited that sometimes the glue wasn't even dry before I primed it, if I even bothered to prime it) along with some other small forces like the catachans when they were brand new. I eventually sold it all off when my friends quit.

Later on I started a chaos army in 5th but eventually lost interest and sold it, my painting had greatly improved atleast.

I had new friends that played Fantasy so started that with 8th edition, pretty sizable Vampire Counts and Lizardman armies, my painting had gotten much better so I actually sold them for same as new or close to it just before the End Times hit. I bought the Deathstorm box and started a blood angels army for nostalgia, never played it but it is probably my best painting so far.

Primaris and Deathguard have pulled me back in recently, currently building the models from Dark Imperium and converting the Primaris with Blood Angels bits.

I will always end up relapsing on the plastic crack, I'd have so much shit if I'd never sold any off since I was a kid :(

Pic is the last thing I painted, pretty happy with them and they'll soon be joined by chadmarines.

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>>54405109
Muh

>>54405132

>d20

Seems like those would be bumped out of alignment super easy, I have my D6 markers bumped several times per game and those have much more stable surfaces.

>>54405118
For something with more than 10 wounds, percentiles. I otherwise use the corresponding die for their maximum and count down from there.

>>54405109
Jokes aside, it just doesn't make much sense to me

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>>54405101
>why is /tg/ the most autistic

>>54405152
>bumped out of alignment super easy
We've never had a problem with them.

But I can see your point.

We tried D6s, but we'd always end up losing them / accidentally picking them up.

Might make circular wound counters when I get free time
>I never will get free time

>>54405069
Wonder if it has 3 shot hand flamers.

>>54405142
how's Lionel an autism?

>>54404516
It actually sounds as if he's developing from the fluff, though. Old Guilliman wouldn't be so willing to turn a blind eye to all the non-Codex chapters, let alone work with xenos or give lip service to the Ecclesiarchy. But now he's starting to realize his ideals and grimdark reality just don't mix.

I've got too many space wolves.So many.
I wanted to have models to cover most infantry units and most options.
Now I'm at the point where it feels like a burden.
Have I gone too far, or been sensible so I can WYSIWYG everything like originally intended...
Terminator wolf lord with wolf claw and storm shield
Power armor wolf lord with wolf claw and storm shield
Power armor wolf lord with frost sword and storm shield
Thunder wolf lord magnetized
Logan Grimnar
Ragnar blackmane
Wolf priest x 2
Terminator wolf priest
Ulrik the slayer
2 x iron priest
3 x Rune priest with rune sword
3 x rune priest with rune axe
Rune priest in terminator armor
Njal Storm caller terminator
Njal storm caller power armor
8 x magnetized venerable dreadnoughts
1 x contemptor
1 x leviathan
1 x imperial knight
15 x wolf guard in power armor magnetized and every weapon combo possible magnetized
10 x wolf guard terminators with claws
10 x wolf guard terminators with TH + S
5 x wolf guard terminators magnetized for heavy weapons.
5 x wolf guard terminators with storm bolter and chain fist
5 x magnetized tartaros terminators
25 x magnetized wulfen
10 x sky claws
6 x Wolf guard bikers / swift claws magnetized.
40 x grey hunters with bolters and chain sword
10 x Grey hunters with plasma guns
5 x grey hunters with melta
5 x grey hunters with flamers
15 x blood claws
lukas the trickster
10 x melee wolf scouts
5 x sniper wolf scouts
5 x special weapon magnetized wolf scouts

15 x fenrisian wolves
6 x cyber wolves

4 x rhinos
Razorbak
predator magnetized
land raider
vindicator
land speeder

9 x plamsa canon long fangs
11 x missile long fangs
2 x lascannon long fangs
3 x multi melta long fangs
6 x heavy bolter long fangs
3 long fang sargents

5 x thunder wolf cavelry magnetized


About 10% is painted.
and I just gave a friend 4 plasma cannon guys to alleviate my guilt and give him devastators.
Like I love the army, but I couldn't display all this.
The HQ and dreadnoughts alone fill a whole shelf.

>>54404717
that looks like a fine iron warrior to me.

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>stripped down MkX armour
>3+ save

At what point level can I bring 4 assassins (one of each) without it dragging me down completely?

>>54405215
Using the actual definition of autism in the sense of being on the spectrum and lacking cognitive empathy.

Lionel was a feral child; he is poorly socialized and he doesn't tend to the understand people. He does, in all seriousness and without memes, exhibit some symptoms of actual autism.

(Not so much the stimming or over-sensitivity to stimulus, but the whole not understanding people bit).

>>54405253
forgot image Not that it mattered

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>>54405265
god damn it

>>54405241
MAGNETS

>>54404956
stats where please?

>>54405253
The 4 of them are, what? 250pts? Its not that much of an investment though they were totally nerfed from what they used to be, which is fine as they are still useful. 2000+pts should be a good spot to have them in.

>>54405287
That is magnetized where viable...

>>54404966
>>54404993
>>54405044
>not thinking that this is what ALL the codexs will get
kek you guys are fucking morons, i dont even play marines you autists .

>>54404691
>>now with 8th they refuse me outright and call me a cheese player even with normal guard
Does this really happen? What abyss do you live in?

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>>54405290
In the community page, the info about the guns is from the stream that was on last friday.

>>54405123
Eh. Dreadnoughts have 8 Wounds and do not degrade. I don't stress too much about the threat of a single mortal wound when using my Heavy Plasma Cannon Dread

>>54405317
inb4 they add more in campaign books and we're right back to needing 3+ books to play one army.

SM: July 29th
CSM+GK: August 19th
DG: September 23rd

>>54405253

I'd say 1500-2000

But honestly the usefulness of the assassin varies a lot

Vindicare is really meh, Culexus is good, Eversor and Callidus are great

>>54405335
I hope not, but in my heart, i know this will happen

>>54405339
Sauce?

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>>54405252
>Mk II armour with extra plating
>3+ save

>>54405333
>dread with +1 str, +5 wounds and the biggest hitbox outside of a superheavy
pff, i dunno, seems alright i guess. Plasma cannon+ mini-gat sounds alright

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>>54405317
I'd honestly rather have one relic I could use than a bunch that did nothing at all.

>>54405344
>>54405294
Nice! Thanks!
What codex do you think they'll add up getting put in?

Are full deatwing armies viable? What about regular terminators?

>>54405252
>MkIII
>best protection
>3+
>MkVI
>disliked for having shit protection
>3+

It's a spectrum. Like how a Cadian and a Catachan both have the same armour.

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>>54405352
Primaris wear it better.

hey everyone, had my first game of 8th the other day and had a great time getting my ass handed to me on the first turn by a flying hive tyrant, i was wondering how quicksilver swiftness works, since my daemonettes got charged and i thought i hit first, but apparently not.

>>54405259
meh fair enough. I've always just envisioned him as being a bit of an introvert and holding different values to many of his brothers. But on the other hand I haven't read any of the stuff about him outside of the source books (and even then I'm limited to the 2nd, 3rd, 6th and 7th ed books)

>>54405252
>Be a Cadian
>Wear body armour that gives me a 5+
>Be a Catachan
>Have abs that give me a 5+
>Be an Ork
>Have abs that give me a 6+

>>54405334

Even so, the damage output relative to other options is pretty low, especially with the randomised number of shots.

If it was a reliable 3 shots it would be about even with other choices.

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>>54405344
>Vindicare is really meh
What? Snipers are more important than ever, being able to pick off characters is huge. Basically a free D3 wounds per turn on enemy characters.

>>54405367
Look at the stuff in Traitor Legions: on the whole you had 1-3 big ticket relics(deamon weapons and the like), and a handful of minor stuff (eg the special bolt rounds for EC or AL). Thats really what i wanted.

>>54405359

>A D6 shot weapon seems alright

Are you blind?

>>54405435
>He has a problem with a 3.5 shot always str 8 plasma weapon
Are you dumb?

>>54405334
>Heavy Plasma Cannon Dread
But why? Twin LCs are just better. They have the same avg. number of shots and do way more damage, and have better AP, AND don't get hot.

>>54405367
I'd rather have two or three just so two armies with the same chapter tactics would have more variety between the two.

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New GK?
Chaplain model?

>>54405428
Depends if your opponent uses Characters.

Certain armies don't really need characters to function. (Orks)

Others use non-Infantry characters (Daemons and Tyranids)

Also enough Line of Sight can completely fuck them over.

>Buddy's Vindicare has yet to kill a single character during a game.

>>54405428

>D3 wounds per turn

So by the time you've killed the enemy warlord you could have killed him in close combat or through breaking through the units shielding him anyhow?

>>54405406
What does the rule say?

>>54405457
Primaris chaplain

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>>54405400
It's not really a matter of being primaris so much as not having stubby dwarf legs.
And it looks even better with Cataphractii legs anyway.

>>54405457
that's AoS for sure

Or Orkz, nobody would have tacked on plates of metal like that

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>>54405457
Unless the new Chaplain has alternate bits. Don't see that on him.

>>54405428
Most buff charciter have 4 wounds, so thats 2 rounds of shooting, assiming that have a 4+ or worse. if they have a 2+, then there is a 1/3 chance they ignore your stupid gun. Thats also assuming they arent just on a bike, so you wound them on 4's.

>>54404232
look at this memelord right here

Do you paint your models crisp or battle worn.

>>54404686
confirmed for not knowing marneus augustus calgar

>>54405493
Looks more like parchment than metal to me.

>>54405259
>>54405215
more like this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizoid_personality_disorder
but maybe that's me projecting

>>54405428

5/6 * 4/6 * 5/6 * 2 + (non-6 wound) + 5/6 * 1/6 * 5/6 * 3.5 + (6+ wound) = 1.33 wounds / turn on average on a SM captain (1.59 on a commissar)

It needs 4 turns to kill a 80ish points captain and 2 turns to kill a 30ish point commissar.

>>54405449

I do for cost and reliability, yes. The best case scenario for this gun is the same as the best case scenario for a twin lascannon, but the average is much worse.

Meanwhile it's other equip option is four heavy bolters, so equivalent to two regular dread arm options whilst the plasma is a worse version of a single dread arm option.

>>54405334
it's not a single mortal wound. It's slain.

>>54405419
Catachan could all become warbosses if they wanted to probably.

>>54405504
>implying /tg/ taking time from complaining to actually play games

Classic.

>>54404691
>>54404916
It is strange that the army I've spent the last two years working on is now the latest WAAC thing. All I wanted was an infantry heavy guard army supported by artillery and scions and now all of the sudden thats just a dick move apparently. Oh well at lest I love my dudes.

>>54405570

>Replace tanks with HWTs around Harker
>Have more firepower per point
>Still protected by your infantry horde
>???
>Profit!

>>54404588
things are generally not as horrible as in previous editions anymore, so at worst this build will be mediocre. and it depends a lot on who you're fighting. however, the problem of this set-up is that many army lists are created with defeating such an army in mind. still, space marine body spam can work, especially if an enemy spends a lot on high-powered, low volume of fire anti-tank.

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>>54404994
While I'm here I may as well ask just to double check.

Land Speeder Storms have the scout keyword and can gain the Ultramarines word through the chapter thing. So Tellion's Voice of Experience would be able to affect a Land Speeder Storm yeah?

>>54405419
>be a Repentia
>while naked get a 6++
>be a Death Cult Assassin
>wear a corset and move super fast get a 5++

>>54404195
I have somewhere in the region of 5000 points of CSM and daemons, but I took a long break from 5th to now, so I haven't added any to it until very recently with the new death guard

>>54405591
I wouldn't field Harker, I play Vostroyans.

>>54405457
>bones of a saint
Could this be it? Nah
Most likely some AoS crap or more marine stuff as usual

>>54405629
Where the fuck did this leftypol shitpost come from

pls ban

>>54405630
Sorry, meant to reply to
>>54404916

>>54405621
>Repentia get a 6++ through their faith in their God-Emperor
>Death Cult Assassin get a 5++ because they learned how to fucking DOOOODGE

>>54405648

Or SoB customization option

>>54405629
I know this is bait, but fuck did the accessible part get me.
It's just dumbing the game down for idiots that are too afraid to read and lessens the enjoyment of those already in the game. Like the dawn of war series or Fantasy getting bloated and then killed off so an autistic child could wear her skin while singing goodbye horses.

>54405629
Low energy baitpost you bent-dick nerd

>>54405607
Kek nice
Id allow it if I played against you
Your reason is logical

>>54405253
>>54405279
Not allying in a warpsmith and another calidus modeled as a vanus and venenum respectively.

>>54405457
Did we actually ever see a fucking model coming out from these rumor engine shits???? I keep seeing useless bits and no substance fuck them

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>>54405607
I'd interpret it that way yes

>>54405535
If I did my math right Scout snipers do about the same amount of damage.

>>54405607
I dont see why not, they are manned by scouts after all.

>>54405677
They are still naked and wearing a corset.
Regardless of their faith and dodge skills.

>>54405711
>in order to resolve arguments caused by us not giving a shit, enter a fistfight
>the person who walks out of that the least injured or at all is the one who knows the rules and is therefore considered proppa orky

>>54405681
For what? Immolators? Exorcist?
The back pack of 20 year old metal models?

>>54405724
Why would dodging give you a save? It's not that hard.

>>54405607
I'd say yes.
Keywords are usually Bolded. So you're looking for units with ULTRAMARINES and SCOUT keywords.

While if it was referring to ULTRAMARINE scout units it would just refer to Scouts as "Scout units"

Look at Old One Eye, Tyranid Primes, and Broodlords for examples.

>>54405677
>learn to dodge and have faith
>4++

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>>54405629
Its a surprise attack!

>>54405733
so it should be

>>54405607
Well AoF worked like that till the FAQ

>>54405751
In a galaxy filled with retards like khorn cultists, space marines, and guardsmen who get executes if they try to get of the way, dodging is a fairly rare thing.

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>>54405629

>>54405709
>54405457
All the time.

>>54404199
Does that mean when Guilliman had an audience with the Emperor, the first thing he would say would be

> OI YA BLUE GIT, GET ME OF THIS FORKIN CHAIR I WANNA CRUMP SUM PANZY DAEMONS

No wonder Bobby G said he heard all he needed to and took matters into his own hands

>>54405733
>fistfight
>Not a swordfight with my 1000 folds $20,000 katana that deals 2d10 Damage with 17-20 x4 Crit, +5 to hit / damage and counts as Masterwork

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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@54405629
>There is no conspiracy to make games politically corre-

>>54405702
>>54405711
>>54405719
>>54405752

>Land Speeder drives really close to Tellion

"Sarge! The Assault Cannon is making weird noises!"

"Oh for fuck's sake Neophyte, move over.."

>>54405761
Wait why is the fish driving the bait tank?

>>54405751
Most assassins have a ++ due to dodge.

>>54405742

Tanks, terrain, objective markers, whatever.

>>54405629
And gay marriage is about love. And feminism is about equality. And Islam is a religion of peace.

>>54405790
He was also mocked for having a xenos wife.

>>54405751

Because if you can dodge a lascannon shot naked you deserve a save.

Soooo I just popped back into the game, and someone told me to field my Leviathan I need to have another dread in the same detachment, is this real?

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>>54405795

>>54405828

You need another heavy support option

>>54405751
Because most people/aliens don't bother.
>not that hard to dodge a laser
Ok.

>>54405828
In order to field a RELIC unit you have to have at least an equal or more number of non-RELIC units of the same battlefield role in the same detachment. A Leviathan is a Heavy Support unit so you'd need at least 1 Heavy Support if you want to field the Leviathan legally.

>>54405799
>why is the fish in the tank
Come on anon, think about it.

>>54405828
Read Da Rules

ERRATA
Page 4 – Relic
If your army is Battle-forged, no Detachment can contain more Relic units than it does non-Relic units of the same Battlefield Role. You can, however, include a single Relic Lord of War unit in your army even if it contains no non-Relic Lord of War units (you cannot include second and subsequent Relic Lord of War units unless they are taken in a Detachment that contains at least as many non-Relic Lord of War units).

>>54405848
The baited has become the bait....

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>>54405791
Dats a weedy lookin' choppa, you git

Can anyone do a height comparison between a GK termie and Voldus? Next to a Primaris if possible?

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>>54405864
>Bait for the Bait Gods, Hooks for the Hook Throne

>>54405864
Fish in a tank
A FISHTANK if you will