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Paizo Games General /pgg/

Smoke 'em if you've got 'em.
What does your character like to smoke or drink while she's relaxing?

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>>54389557
Tobacco.

Though there is one who smokes tobacco infused with insanity mist.
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>>54389557
He's got a pipe, doesn't see much use, and wine is more his speed anyway. The other pipe, on the other hand...
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>>54389557
Cabble leaf tea. Makes her comfortably numb to things she has to do.

Speaking of smoking 'em if you got 'em: Is there a table, list or a source book that has all the drugs and whatnot listed along with price? Can't find anything about the prices, only about the addiction.
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>>54389557
My girl doesn't have an oral fixation, unlike the subhuman skanks that stalk the campaign applications.
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>>54389744
http://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Recreational_drugs_of_Golarion
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>>54389779
Says nothing about the prices.
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>>54389557
What classes have a lot of dream themed abilities?
Right now I'm thinking a kineticist with the dream element from Legendary kineticists, but it seems a bit OP
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>>54389907
Psychics have a dream discipline, but it's more suited for a powerful enemy than a PC.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/occult-adventures/occult-classes/psychic/
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>>54389907
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/races/other-races/uncommon-races/arg-changeling/dreamweaver-witch-changeling
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>>54389907
>kineticist
>OP
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>>54389907
Dreamweaver Sorcerer bloodline for changelings.
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>>54390055
Third party, anything's broken with a person who wants it to be.
And vice versa which is why nobody wants to play a wizard in my games. I will grind their fucking testicles into a fine powder the second they get cocky about being better than a barbarian.
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>>54389907
Sphere singer (prc) gets a bunch of dream based spells for free at later levels and lucid dreamer as a bonus feat.
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>>54390103
>Third party, anything's broken with a person who wants it to be.
No it isn't. Third party is broken when it's broken. Legendary Kineticist improves Kineticist a great deal but it certainly doesn't make them OP unless you want to provide some kind of proof.
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>>54389557
>What does your character like to smoke or drink while she's relaxing?
A very rich, very dense wine that was a gift from Lady Vargas of Karrnath. Granted that the Vargas line is descendant of a vampire tyrant, it's questionable as to what this wine actually is. But it gives Elsbeth the bubbles and floaty feeling, so she isn't asking many questions.
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Somebody should really do a Tuvarkz character bingo card.
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>>54390191

Probably just very high-quality wine. Sure, it's a great vampire joke, making people wonder what the hell is in that goblet, but undead or not, people of wealth and lineage should take their wine seriously.
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What feat should I take as a 5th level Sanguinist Medic
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>>54390258
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>kineticist in party deals 4d6+11 damage with +11 to hit, doesn't need ammunition and can fire silver coins to bypass most damage reduction
>ruins the devils in the campaign
>another character can aid another to give people +7 to their saves / attack / AC
>rules for Aid Another are so vague and nebulous that it's up to GM fiat
>so now I am a bad guy every time I disallow it
>kineticist tries to use the telekinesis "lift 4000 pounds" as "I can use 4000 pounds of force however I want" and uses it to smash every door in existence
>vaguely worded abilities yet again lead to arguments over what constitutes an "object"
>"if something can exert enough force to lift 4000 pounds but can be stopped by a lock that can only hold 400 pounds of force, how doe that makes sense?"
>one character wants to visit his ancestral home and liberate it from its invaders
>design the entire city for them to explore
>other characters begrudgingly agree
>player misses two sessions and suddenly the other players change their minds about going
>entire campaign is "directionless" according to them, because they refuse to follow up on obvious plot hooks
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>>54390392
>this post again
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>>54390392
hi Wayne
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Here's a preview on the second completed Aspect for the Soulforger class, the Savant.
https://pastebin.com/8RwiSFcf
May or may not contain A GOD AM I. Handle responsibly.
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>kineticist tries to use the telekinesis "lift 4000 pounds" as "I can use 4000 pounds of force however I want" and uses it to smash every door in existence

Just treat it as shorthand.
'Set up a crowbar/lever/rope system and use the force of dropping a 4000lb object to break the door' is just as easy, it just takes the party about two more minutes to set up properly.
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>>54390374
You can't have a bingo card where it's impossible NOT to fill every space!
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>>54390392
hows it going Wayne.
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>>54390392
>fire silver coins to bypass most damage reduction
READ YOU STUPID STUPID MOTHERFUCKER
>ven if you use this power on a magic weapon or other unusual object, the attack doesn’t use any of the magic weapon’s bonuses or effects; it simply deals your blast damage. Alternatively, you can loosen the strands of aether in order to deal damage to both the object and the target as though you had thrown the object yourself (instead of dealing your normal blast damage).
FUCK OFF YOU LITERAL MONKEY
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>>54390374
>>54390258
Can someone make a DHB Bingo card?
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>>54390392
>>"if something can exert enough force to lift 4000 pounds but can be stopped by a lock that can only hold 400 pounds of force, how doe that makes sense?"
Literally not how magic works. You're not exerting 4000lbs of force, you are lifting 4000lbs.
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is trailblazer any good?
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>>54390392
I bet avowed would make this guy have an aneurysm
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>>54390515
Unless you're in a very wilderness exploration heavy campaign, no. Base Aegis is better.
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>>54390392
>post upset about kineticist and order of the dragon cavalier

oh i am laffin
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>>54390471
Someone did, and it was pretty much just forced memes about DHB rather than actual stuff you'd find in DHB's apps.
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>>54390569
Does anyone have it? I'm curious.
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Starfinder scans WHEN
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>>54390533
lol good one
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>>54390605
when it comes out you mongoloid
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High-level Mythic Gestalt Godslayer campaign WHEN
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>>54390625
when you run it you mongoloid
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>>54390452
>Lighthouse Beacon - Your powers reach for the heavens, and reaching for the heavens with your powers makes them even stronger.
>Additionally, if you are at least level 8 you may create a beacon of power atop a structure you own or have created that is at least 50 feet tall. When within 1 mile of this beacon, you treat yourself as 2 levels higher for the purpose of Font of Power and all Aspect Pieces that modify it, and you increase its base area of effect by 10 feet and its base caster level bonus by 1. While within range of the beacon, you gain +1 caster level (this does not stack with bonuses granted from Font of Power). The range of the beacon increases the higher up it is; it increases to 2 miles for a 100 feet tall structure, and for every additional 100 feet the structure extends above the ground, the range of the beacon doubles (2 miles range for a 100 feet structure, 4 miles for a 200 feet structure, and so on).

>tfw stupidly tall wizard towers now make sense
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>>54390625
PoW Discipline Errata WHEN!?
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Someone post the games list again.
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>>54390658
soon(tm)
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https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/81935/essentia-our-last-days
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/82673/iron-gods
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/83053/dominions-of-vice-an-osirion-tale
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/83254/carnal-crown
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/83277/the-fiends-and-intrigues-of-house-karvane
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>>54390625
Never. High level mythic requires a level of acceptance of non-RAW gamemastery that /tg/ cannot deal with.
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>>54390721
>You have to handwave a fuckton of shit to get this garbage to work

yeah i wouldn't want to GM that either.
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>>54390511
>You're not exerting 4000lbs of force, you are lifting 4000lbs.
You need to exert force to do that. f=ma. Learn physics.

>>54390520
What is avowed?
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>>54390721
High level also requires DMs to know what they're doing.

Why try, when you can play a campaign for 2 years and only hit level 7?
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>>54390772
>physics
its a game with magic nigga, not a physics simulator
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>>54390544
>pumping someone's attack to +17 for 4d6+11 damage at level 4 isn't broken

Kill yourself.
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>>54390794
Barbarians say hi
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>>54390794
>two people make one attack hit for a decent amount of damage

Wow
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>>54390794
>tfw the barbarian is going 3d6+16
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>>54390845
>tfw the barbarian is a Half-giant with a Butcher's Axe
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>>54390845
>only 3d6

>>54390880
>with enlarge person cast on him
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>>54390772
I'm not sure where PSHCIC FUCKING POWERS FIT INTO PHYSICS.

I hope you don't include dragons and Giants too science science says those can't exist.
>>54390794
How arE they as a kineticist getting 4d6 at level 4?
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>>54390886
>only 3d6
You do know how this works right a d6 on average only is 3.5 more damage. The barbarian will do more damage on average and more consistently as his shit is static.
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>>54390791
>its a game with magic nigga, not a physics simulator
Oh I'm sorry, I forgot, D&D takes place in a WORLD MADE OF MAGIC and thus the laws of physics do not apply AT ALL. That means a level 1 commoner can make rocks float and teleport just because he feels like it. That means that if you roll a fucking nat20, you can pogo stick to the fucking moon. Remember guys the world is LITERALLY made of magic, so Martials should be able to spontaneously make their swords burst into flame and leap 300 feet with no magical assistance, because the world is MADE of magic and thus this should be okay and if you don't think so you are a 3aboo apologist. Remember the world is literally made of magic so you can do whatever stupid shit you want and if the GM says no, he is a gatekeeping grognard piece of shit. Remember, whatever makes the table laugh the hardest is correct, because RULE OF COOL MOTHERFUCKER. IF the entire table is laughing at it then you HAVE to go with it, especially if he rolled a NATURAL 20. Holy shit, give me a moment I have to look up that funny meme picture that is TOTALLY my character's face right now. Oh. My. God. And remember, it's okay that it happened, because physics doesn't exist, consistency doesn't exist, believable doesn't exist because it's a world MADE of magic and it's not supposed to be believable, it's supposed to be an autistic wank session and if you bring up physics or realism AT ALL you're a sperg, you must ignore anything that would "actually happen" because we ignore all that because it's fantasy and because it's fun and because rule of cool and because fuck you. Remember, the world is literally MADE OF MAGIC so ANYTHING GOES!
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>>54390932
I know, the joke was how easy it was to get it to 6d6 with a little touch of 3pp and spells
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>>54390948
You're right SKR, fuck water balloon fighters.
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>meanwhile, ITT
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>>54390970
sometimes taking the bait is funny, because you see shit like this
>>54390948


Like goddamn thats comedy.
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>>54390902
>I'm not sure where PSHCIC FUCKING POWERS FIT INTO PHYSICS.
You can't even spell "psychic" correctly so I already have got a good clue as to the intelligence level of the person I am talking to. But, just because something can be done magically, does not mean that it is not creating a physical concept. If physics does not apply in D&D, then the world would not exist because everything would fly apart into a subatomic soup. Fireball creates fire that can kill people. Physics dictates how that happens. The effect might originate from outside physics, but physics determines its results. Otherwise the pressure of the fire wouldn't exist and your 20-foot-radius fireball wouldn't do anything. Let alone the fact that matter wouldn't exist as we know it.
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>>54390984
It's not comedy, it's sad.
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>>54390992
then how can giant golems and dragons exist because physics dictate they can't support their own weight
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>>54390962
>fuck water balloon fighters.
Yeah, because water balloon fighters are a stupid concept. So are throwing knives fighters. Crossbows? Yeah they should be composite like bows are. That part is fucking stupid I admit. Of course, D&D has such insane HP bloat that the problem is magnified a thousandfold because getting shot by a crossbow or bow hardly means anything either way.
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>>54391001
the comedy is that someone sat there and typed that up, thinking they're 'epicly trolling' us
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>>54391008
ironically with the opportunist fighter archetype water balloon fighters are now viable if we consider water balloons splash weapons.
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>>54390992
>>54390992
>durr hurr you made a typo you must be dumb
>, just because something can be done magically, does not mean that it is not creating a physical concept
Nor does it mean it does. It's magic. It applies when those writing the rules says it does and doesn't when they say it doesn't. Now fuck off.
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I want to play a kyton-spawn tiefling from a Halfling family.

What's the best class for a small-sized Kyton-spawn tiefling?
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>>54390992
>Otherwise the pressure of the fire wouldn't exist and your 20-foot-radius fireball wouldn't do anything
The funny thing is that fireball the spell specifically calls out that it does not create pressure.
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>>54391041
>ironically with the opportunist fighter archetype water balloon fighters are now viable if we consider water balloons splash weapons.
lol no they're not.
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>>54391116
Don't see why they wouldn't be.
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>>54391106
>small sized tiefling
Stop being a munchkin.
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>>54391143
>munchkin

not everything you don't like is being a munchkin, steve
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>>54391136
No, I mean they aren't viable. Of course, whatever lolrandumb shit that /pfg/ wants to be viable, is viable, because their standards of balance have no parameters.
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>>54391154
It is viable, its just not good

but it is in fact, doable, and probably straight better than a crossbow fighter
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>>54391008
>So are throwing knives fighters.

Fuck off with that right back to the paizo forums JJ, throwing knives are rad for rule of cool factor and SHOULD be useable, especially if the fucking LONGBOW is allowed to be more damaging and faster firing than a fucking rifle.
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>>54391152
No, but small sized tielings are pretty much caster bait only.
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>>54391201
Nah, small sized mounted combat too
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>>54391201
What if I just want to be small-sized so that it's easier for me to be bullied and carried around by my party?
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>>54391169
>It is viable, its just not good
Define "viable."
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>>54391187
Oh shit I forgot, RULE OF COOL
RULE OF COOL
RULE OF COOL
THAT'S ALL THAT MATTERS.

By that logic my fighter should be able to throw LITERAL BADGERS at someone for 10d6 damage per round cause that's COOL as fuck.
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>>54391222
as long as it can maintain its placement in tier 4 its good
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Who's gonna be making apps for Essentia, Dominions of Vice or INTRIGUE?
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>>54391238
but thats not cool anon, its retarded
just like you
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>>54391212
Then you should kill yourself.
>>54391238
Do you post on /pol/, by any chance?
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>>54391256
>but thats not cool anon, its retarded
So are throwing knives. They are retarded as fuck.
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>>54391238
>fighter is not allowed to do shit from a modern action movie because NOT REALISTIC REEEE
>but wizards can exist

Really makes me think
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>>54391304
nah they're not
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>>54391252
Intrigue apps are slowly starting to trickle in, but we need more!
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>>54390880
Nah a half Orc with enlarge person
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>>54390772
>You need to exert force to do that. f=ma. Learn physics.
That's for physics. This is magic. The magic does one thing. At the point you say "logically the spell should be able to do X" you're wrong. The magic does one thing, because the spell is not applying 4000lbs of force, it's lifting something. It violates the laws of physics in a single specific way.
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>>54391307
>but wizards can exist
Yes, because they use magic. Fighters do not, unless you include their magic items. That's how it works, end of story.
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>>54391374
>That's for physics. This is magic.
see
>>54390992
If physics doesn't exist, then magic doesn't work, and your entire campaign setting explodes instantly into a soup of quantum foam.
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>>54391380
You want a game to be genre simulationist in some areas and physics simulationist in others. That's retarded and you're retarded for wanting that. It should be one or the other, trying to make it both will make things awful because of the divide.
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>>54391314
yah they are.
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>>54391406
Yeah dude, and because i'm smart enough to know guns exist, my characters should all make guns, and because guns are simple weapons irl, they should be in game too
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>>54391406
Again you're being a retard who wants to try and be physics simulationist in a world where most class features do not follow the laws of physics and most basic creatures are not possible physically. Choose one or the other, trying to choose both with no logical divide deserves being made fun of. That's why we're laughing at you.
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>>54391380
Fighters are not realistic, as no actual human being is capable of falling the distances they are capable of and just walking it off. I doubt there is a person on this green earth capable of picking up a longbow and pelting a bear with 7 arrows in the span of 6 seconds, at over 100 ft, with enough force to turn the bear into a fine mist.
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>>54391307
I still don't understand that picture. Go back where?
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>>54391439
That's metagaming, that's different. Your character doesn't know how to make guns, therefore you don't. However, physics exists regardless of your character's knowledge of it. Magic might create a fireball but physics determines how it spreads. If physics didn't exist your fireball wouldn't expand, or burn anyone (a chemical reaction that is a product of physics).
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>>54391494
NAh dude, my character can do anything I know how to do, thats why my knowledge of physics means my character can put that to use
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>>54391466
>do not follow the laws of physics
Magic is an exception to the law of physics, but it's effects still must follow the laws of physics. Similarly to how if you summon a monster, it doesn't automatically fly unless you cast the fly spell upon it. Stop ignoring what you want selectively because of your WURLD MADE OF MAJICK "argument" which is complete bull shit.
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>>54391494
Again you're being a retard because physics explicitly works differently in game. The gravitational constant is different because acceleration due to gravity is entirely different.

>if physics doesn't exist
You're trying to be physics simulationist in a system that explicitly doesn't use physics. It uses genre simulation.
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>>54391482
>Fighters are not realistic, as no actual human being is capable of falling the distances they are capable of and just walking it off.
Agreed. Falls should deal 1d10 Con damage per 10 feet fallen.
>>54391511
>thats why my knowledge of physics means my character can put that to use
This has nothing to do with what your character does or does not know. That has nothing to do with my original point, which was that non-magical things in D&D must still obey the laws of physics, as must their effects. If magical effects don't obey the laws of physics then it would destroy everything as soon as it was cast.
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>>54391515
>Magic is an exception to the law of physics, but it's effects still must follow the laws of physics
Why? You have tried to hold this up as the crux of your argument when it's an absolutely asinine point to try and make.
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>>54391535
TRIGGER WARNING! Throwing knife
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>>54391535
Can you not wrap your head around the idea of genre simulation. You're either trying to troll or actually a massive autist. Either way fuck off.
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>>54391526
>Again you're being a retard because physics explicitly works differently in game.
Oh really? Have the developers posted the new gravitational attraction constant? New Planck length? New value for the speed of light? New maxwell equations? I didn't think so.

>The gravitational constant is different because acceleration due to gravity is entirely different.
Prove it. Use an example from the rules, or other published Paizo literature. Otherwise, you are literally wrong. Especially given that falling distance per round has been done out with 9.81 m/s^2 as the acceleration. So actually, you're wrong.
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>>54390772
>f=ma
This formula doesn't actually apply here.
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>>54391548
Would deal 1d4 damage and is objectively inferior to using a longbow, which, you know, was a REAL weapon that was ACTUALLY used in warfare. Shilling for throwing knives is equivalent to saying throwing plastic cups at your opponent should be a viable tactic otherwise muh badwrongfun. More like you're just a 5e fag in disguise who wants every combat style to be mechanically equivalent and turn the game into a bland shitmess.
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>>54391592
but pathfinder combat isn't warfare, its fantasy superheroes slugging it out with fists, magic, sword, and just about anything else.
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>>54391565
>Prove it. Use an example from the rules, or other published Paizo literature.
Go to the rules for falling. You do not fall at an increasing speed past the first 50 feet in a vacuum.
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>>54391585
Why not? That's how you lift something, fuckwit. By applying a force.
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>>54391565
How do you explain dragon flight which is expressly Ex.
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>>54391592
Haha yea I mean throwing weapons surely aren't a popular thing in ficti-
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>>54391600
>but pathfinder combat isn't warfare
The rules still apply, you dumb nigger. Try using a throwing knife in an actual self defense situation. Then try using it against someone wearing full plate armor. Or a bear. There's a reason they didn't hunt with throwing knives, you stupid fucking piece of shit, it's because they are terrible weapons and work as a cheap sidearm at best.
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>>54391485
Old-ass slang for "killing yourself" on DECHAN (ancient /a/, ancient /b/, and therefore also /jp/ mostly) was 'going to gensokyo' or 'brb gensokyo'. Gensokyo is the setting of Touhou, ergo, it's a touhou considering going to gensokyo or killing herself.

>>54391606
That's not quite what the formula is saying, though. The formula states to apply an acceleration vector you need to apply a force.
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>>54391636
>posting capeshit
>because something is popular in fiction it should be in an RPG
Sex scenes are a popular part of fiction. Does that mean that Pathfinder should have rules for that?
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>>54391592
>>54391651
This doesn't solve the problem of javelins being hot rubbish.
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>>54391651
But i'm not a normal human, and my throwing knife is magical and made out of ultra hard magical metal.

>>54391665
pathfinder IS capeshit
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I have a request. I am running a campaign set in the warcraft universe and they are nearing epic levels.
I want the barbarian to get the "Heart of Y'Shaarj" a la Garrosh but have it be somewhat under his control. But my problem is.. I have no idea what sorta bonuses it should give. Any ideas?
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>>54391665
yes

>>54391670
No it isn't, capeshit is worse than Pathfinder, which I know is hard to imagine but it's somehow true.
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>>54391485
through the anime portal
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So physics folks, do you know what genre simulation is/means?
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>>54391678
>STEMfags
>ever able to suspend their disbelief and not autistically screech
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>>54391678
Fighters are compared to stage magicians?
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>>54391665
I could post someone using throwing knives from literally any source and you would bitch about it. Them being unusable garbage is still retarded.
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>>54391670
>But i'm not a normal human
Okay. Find someone really good at throwing knives. Find someone really good with longbows. Now have them fight. The longbow user will win because a longbow is a better weapon. A level 4 fighter can reliably one-shot orcs with a throwing knife (or could in 3.5 before they added that shitty diehard ability), dealing at least 1d4+5 damage and that's just off the top of my head with core rulebook shit. Throwing knives are plenty good, in fact pathfinder treats them generously. But they are not as good as a longbow, no. Deal with it. SKR is a shithead but that's not one of the reasons why.
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>>54391670
>pathfinder IS capeshit
Wrong. Find a citation in the core rulebook where it says this is true. Otherwise, fuck off.

>>54391678
>do you know what genre simulation is/means?
Yeah it's a load of bullshit used to justify rule-of-cool faggotry that makes zero sense.
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>>54391678
I'm a physicsfag though. Wayne isn't, he doesn't actually understand anything.

>>54391708
>will win
Both weapons can be immediately lethal, it depends on who rolls initiative first. You would actually expect the knife thrower to win, because he does not need to notch an arrow or draw a bow.
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>>54391726
>Pathfinder IS capeshit
>CRB. pp211, 2nd paragraph
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>>54391726
The rulebook also says that Wall of Force can be broken by physical damage when this is impossible from a physical point of view, and also says that kineticists can't apply 4000 pounds of force so there's that.
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>>54391726
>Yeah it's a load of bullshit used to justify rule-of-cool faggotry that makes zero sense.
And yes you're ok with violations of laws of physics by Ex abilities otherwise. Like dragon flight, carrying capacities, the structure of many aberrations, fall speeds, and more?
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>>54391675
If you want it to be a big deal and invest some effort into it, you could check out the Corruption rules and see if something fits. If it's a bit more minor, look at some magic items he could afford at his level and give out similar bonuses.
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>>54389642
>Tobacco.
>In a vaguely European fantasy
What did he mean by this?
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>>54389557
>Character 1
Wine
>Character 2
Wine
>Character 3
Wine

Definitely don't have a problem, I promise
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>>54391746
?
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>>54389907
Dreamspun Sorcerer Blodline, and the Dreamweaver Changeling archetype
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>>54391535
You must be a fun person to play with

Assuming you're not just making an ass of yourself for the keks.
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>>54391746
The fucking magic chapter?
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>>54389753
Nothing wrong with being fixated on oral. It's safe, pleasant, and great for bonding.
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>>54391734
>Both weapons can be immediately lethal, it depends on who rolls initiative first.
lol no, because the longbow user will cut him down from 100 feet away.
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For the autismal anon
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>>54391843
You don't start duels at a range overly skewed towards one person, boy, especially when nobody is asking for a range extension to throwing weapons. The same would be true of javelins, but hmm - javelins are hot rubbish when they were powerful and important weapons in real life, why is that?
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>>54391843
Okay now you're just redefining "fight" on the fly. That's not a fight, that's a sniper ambushing a target.
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>>54391882
>That's not a fight, that's a sniper ambushing a target
No, they can see each other. The longbow man draws his arrow and shoots the knife thrower in the chest and he dies instantly. The knife thrower's path to victory involves either dodging the first arrow and running closer, then throwing the knife and hoping his puny shard of metal deals enough damage to incapacitate the longbow wielder (protip: it won't) while he has a shaft of wood sticking out of his chest.
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>>54390011
>>54389940
>>54389425
>>54389354
>>54389263
>>54389245
>>54388528
I still want to see a drawing
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>>54391882
>>54391843
>>54391905
Likely the knife user would then teleport to the longbow user, due to winning initiative. The distance doesn't matter as long as it is under 1000ft.
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>>54391880
>especially when nobody is asking for a range extension to throwing weapons.
No, only a damage extension which makes absolutely no sense because throwing knives are fellated enough as is. If you have feats to give higher damage to throwing knives, why can't those same feats be applied to longbows? You have no excuse for that besides "muh game balance" which is not a thing when you try to turn a side weapon into a viable strategy then whine when the game doesn't agree with you.
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>>54391924
>teleport
Who said anything about teleport?
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>>54391929
Then why are polearms not more powerful than they are? Why do they take a penalty at close range when realistically they never did except in cramped hallways, and spears never did even then?
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>>54391951
>Then why are polearms not more powerful than they are?
Because SKR is a dumb mongoloid, as I stated above.
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>>54391911
Everyone is too busy shitposting
Did someone already agree to draw it?
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>>54391948
We're talking about pathfinder, right?
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>>54391986
But have you considered that all of your arguments apply to normal humans and not level 20 monstrosities?
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>>54392007
>level 20 monstrosities
Level 1 barbarians can outrun the olympic sprint world record.
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>>54391924
Shit nigga that knife user's a caster, that's probably cheating

>>54391929
The irony is throwing weapons can do damage just fine with the right setup, the issue is they need five million feats to function, have piss-all range, and a longbow does the same shit with a hundredth of the effort.
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>>54392046
>Shit nigga that knife user's a caster, that's probably cheating
You don't have to be a caster to be able to teleport in pathfinder. I'm not even talking PoW. You can do it in just regular pathfinder.
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>>54392046
Using 2hus as an example isn't really a good idea though.
>Reimu with her Fantasy Heaven (Ex.) that negates all damage and detrimental effects
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>>54392067
Well, you're not wrong, but at the same time I don't think you can actually teleport and full-attack on the same turn with throwing weapons. Though I've not scoured all the handbooks so fuck if I know, Fighter can theoretically get dimension door chargepounce, so maybe he can get dimension door chargepounces with thrown weapons.
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>>54392040
Level 1 Monks can OPM a dude too
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>>54392067
It's true, but the number of classes who can teleport a fair distance and still attack are very, very small.
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>>54392100
So can monks actually. Monks can chargeflurry with thrown weapons.
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>>54392140
It's any class that can teleport + the dimensional agility line.

Literally every class can teleport because of item mastery.

Literally every class can do this. Only fullcasting can't because they don't have enough BaB.
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>>54392145
UC Monk can. Take Flying Kick, then fluffy with Shuriken,
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>>54392218
Never mind I'm wrong. Anyone with a good Fort save and at least 3/4 BaB can do it. Which is A LOT of classes.
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Hey guys. I talked before about the adventure I was on. We were being chased through the mountains by a Lycanthrope Troll while trailing a group of refugees. I have some updates if anyone cares.
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I need help. How do I build a Shining Knight 20/Mammoth Rider 1, with Mythic? What feats go on the mammoth?
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>>54392218
Teleportation Mastery doesn't count as being able to cast dimension door. The item itself is the one casting dimension door, not the character. It's the same thing if someone with a wand of dimension door wanted to take the feat.
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>>54392383
I don't remember it at all, but sure, post it if you like.
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>>54391990
Somebody said they were going to write or draw something to get the idea out of their head. They didn't say they would share or when they'd finish.
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>>54392426
Sadness, it sounded like a cute idea.
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>>54392383
pfg is always happy to hear fun game greentexts.

Unless it's from a 'celeb' game, since then it instantly becomes unwanted self-shilling that's killing the threads.
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>>54392413
Except the ability come from you using your own capability to coax the magic out of the item yourself. Plus, it can be used to cast a spell that isn't used to make the item or is in it, so saying thatthe item is casting the spell seems silly the item doesn't even have the spell itself
If I were DM, I'd rule that you could use it, provided it'd just be with the uses provided by the feat
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>>54391252
I wish I could, but I'm full up on games already...
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>>54392383
When did you post this before? I'm a loser who spends basically all his time here and I'm pretty sure there hasn't been any greentexts in the past few days.
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>>54391252
A lot of people who might've been interested simply don't have time anymore.
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>>54392452
I've never known them to be overly inviting of greentexts, and was surprised to come back to people talking about greentexts of any game. Odd.
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Hey, if we're talking about monks, I have a question about mine. Hungry Ghost/Ironskin, just about to hit level thirteen. Which means I'll get Sipping Demon, which gives me a temporary hitpoint each time I hit someone, and if I kill someone or something, I regain my level in hp.

But what would happen if I put Vicious on my Amulet of Mighty Fists? Say I deal a killing blow, what would be the chain of events between the temp hp, the recoil damage, and the lifesteal?
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>>54392452
More like we're ambivalent to most and hostile to celeb games. Unless something controversial happens of course.
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How often do attacks of opportunity come up in actual play / should I get the combat reflexes feat? Bonus: I'm a zen archer.
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>>54392436
>>54392426
>>54391990
Did we even settle on a witch? It's kinda vague, otherwise.
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>>54392452
>>54392509
>>54392490
If people really want to hear how the games are going, they can always PM the people involved.

While they're at it, they can PM their crush too.
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>>54392571
Don't make me PM you
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>>54392529
>Often
>Depends
>As a Zen Archer, FUCK NO
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>go look at Intrigue
>look at the current applicants
>start hesitating
I feel like a dumbass for hesitating but
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>>54392578
Do it.

>>54392586
Don't wait. Just do it.
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>>54392610
>Don't wait. Just do it.
what
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>>54392541
I mean, it wasn't a specific group. The poster just said "the party Witch." I don't know about which parties /pfg/ cares, so I can't really suggest anything. Just make a moeblob witch and a [insert fetish] other person of some sort, and go to town, I guess.
>>54392571
That's how I think it should be done, honestly.
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>>54392619
Get your app out there, brah.
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>>54392509
>>54392571
The funniest thing is that I don't care about most of the games pfg runs. I skip the greentexts and glaze over character talk, and know little about them.

But I don't feel hostile to them. They've got nothing to do with me, so why would I? It's like the only people complaining are the people too autistic to ignore what they don't like.
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>>54392625
The only Witch I know of that are in campaigns are that Ensoulment eugenics Witch and the Tit Witch in Blingmaker.
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>>54391911
>>54391990
Fine. Tomorrow.
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>>54392654
Ty
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>>54392644
>tfw Protagonist didn't run two or three games in Ensoulment
So many good apps ;_;
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>>54392644
She wasn't a eugenics witch, she was a deicidal megalomaniac witch. Big difference
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>>54392505
This is a good question. Now, all those abilities occure on "a hit", meaning after the attack roll is confirmed.

Now, the abilities Life Funnel, and the 2nd clause of Sipping Demon occur after confirming a Critical Hit. Now, confirming a Crit technically happens before confirming it as a normal hit (since if its not a crit, there is a chance it may still miss)

So, if you score a crit, Life Funnel and Sipping Demon would activate first, then Vicious would after the hit is made and you start rolling for damage. If you don't score a crit, however, Sipping Demon will still give you 1 temp HP. Since its technically occuring at the same time as Vicious, what happens next is up to GM ruling. I however would rule the 1 temp HP to proc first, an then the damage from Vicious.

Does this help friend?
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>>54392644
>>54392692
Eugenics character is in Journey to the West.
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>>54392654
Thanks a bunch!
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>>54392692
They're not talking about C3 you retard, who wasn't a Witch to begin with.
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>>54392571
How, though?
Is it enough to just ask how they're doing? I don't know how to be witty or charming off the cuff if it's through text.
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>>54392692
>deicidal megalomaniac witch
You know she didn't get in right
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C3 isn't a witch but she does need to be killed. Hopefully the party is hunting her now.
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>>54392571
>>54392625
>>54392731

When
1) The player is fine to share their greentexts with the thread and might benefit from the thoughts or suggestions of other anons
2) The thread has many anons who would be interested enough to read a greentext posted but not to the point where they'd actively PM someone for the greentexts

It's idiotic to try and enforce the idea greentexts should only be spread via PMs just to shut up a vocal minority.
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>>54392716
>Eugenics character and reimu getting bullied by Foxtits

nice
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>>54392476
>>54392452
>>54392422
So I'll catch people up to speed on what's happening:
>a town in the mountains is being terrorized by something
>the town is basically a way stop through the mountains to make it from one side to the other
>we were just traveling through but were convinced to help
>begin investigating
>people disappear nearly every night
>sometime reappear, but terrified talking about something enormous and hairy
>our party has a confrontation with the thing after laying a trap at night
>it's a fucking ENORMOUS werebear
>easily 25ft tall and hunched over (make a bear person then give it a gorilla's physique)
>the thing does this guttural call and a person leaves their house and walks towards it in a daze
>we attack
>it is way stronger than we thought
>it grabs the guy in a daze and our ranger and swallows them both whole
>runs off into the forrest again
>GM tells our ranger he's going to have to play one of the city folk for a while since his character is gonna be captured at least for a little while
>we start asking pointed questions of people because someone must have seen the massive bear
>people are freaking out and don't want to tell us
>find out the mayor who wanted our help is new, only been in the town two years
>find out his daughter was captured and returned 'unharmed'
>things keep getting weirder
>corner a local trapper and force the info out of him
>apparently every winter they give a few women folk to the monster as appeasement
>normally half of them come back
>they come back pregnant
>mayor apparently kicked up a MASSIVE fuss when his daughter was chosen
>he wants to kill the thing instead
>suddenly a blizzard hits
>we're stuck here now because the pass isn't going to reopen until the snow melts
>the town is behind quota for sacrifices and we're without allies because the mayor is pissed off
>mayor is basically enforcing the law with foreign soldiers he brought with him
>the locals are restless
>our ranger is still gone
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>>54392731
Just ask how they're doing. Make small talk even.
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>>54392682
>>54392644
I'm really sad that Jericho didn't get in.
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>>54392704
Oh, absolutely. Thanks a lot man. Mind if I screencap this, to show my DM? He was as confused as me.
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>>54392586
Just write your app! It's up to you to set the tone, anon!
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>>54392749
I want her to step on me etc.
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>>54392682
Probably the only greentext Im actually looking forward to. Ensoulment has a lot of potential and I got a bit invested in it from apping, even if it didnt work out for me.
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>>54392731
No joke, this is what you do.

Take a deep breath, drink about three shots to get primed, keep the bottle close so you can swig while you chat, and strike up a conversation about meme apps.
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>>54392772
No prob, go for it. May it help you punch many things
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Which cavalier orders are worth picking without restricting me to being Sir Douchealot, the heir to the throne the Kingdom of Smell-Thine-Own-Farts or Pacifisto of Plzdonthurtme republic?
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>>54392791
I want Franze to step on me
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>>54392761
>>54392797
Well, that's good then.
I worry I'm a bore, but I want to keep the spark there.
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>>54392755
>they come back pregnant
Magical Realm!
>our ranger is still gone
Did the ranger flake, or what?

>>54392795
They have Session II today, I think, so we should get one tomorrow.
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>>54392750
I mean, we can't enforce shit, so I don't think it's never not idiotic to try.
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>>54392571
I really wish this meme would die. People in /pfg/ games don't have time to be answering a bunch of requests for greentexts. Lots of people want to see the greentexts and only a handful of loud grumps are too dumb to skip over the stuff that doesn't interest them (like >>54392637 mentions).
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Speaking of Vicious weapon quality, this has me curious now.

Are there any other class option and archetypes that make you stronger from taking damage? Would any of them synergize well with Vicious?
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>>54392815
Don't be boring, then. Problem fucking solved.
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>>54392808
Order of the Staff, Star, Shield, and Flame are all okay.
Staff is especially good for being your casters' obedient slutknight
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>>54392571
>>54392750
I'm going to ask all the celebs to PM me greentexts and then I'll post them to the threads anyway.

Then the celebs will stop trusting any stranger with greentexts at all, and I'll hang around in the discords, pick up conversation fragments about the games, and post them to the thread anyway.

Then when they've learned to stop talking about their games in public at all, I'll post convincing but entirely fictional greentexts, so anons on the thread will complain because they can't tell the difference, and the players will either have to suffer through it in silence or be coaxed to talk about the truth again to correct misinformation.
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>>54392749
I can say that we're not hunting her right now.

>>54392770
I'd be shocked if Jericho doesn't frequently show up.

>>54392795
>>54392822
If I recall correctly, session two is tonight.
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>>54392836
Kineticist

Burn :^)
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>>54392755
fuck off, attention whore
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>>54392836
I think Pain Taster tries to do this, but I'm not sure how well it pulls it off. Probably poorly.
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>>54392859
AAAAAA WHO ARE YOU
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>>54392859
Kill her before she grows too powerful to stop
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>>54392887
Guess.
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>>54392838
...Right, guess getting drunk really is the solution. Where's that fucking gin?
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>>54392893
IKiD the Dogfucker!
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>>54392870
Wouldn't work with vicious aside from a fluff perspective. The damage they deal to themselves is through a swift action and the rest is generally "here, now the other guy hurts"
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>>54392906
Nope.
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>>54392916
Count Thick!
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>>54392854
>obedient slutknight
Big, burly cavaliers are no darn sluts for any darn wizard.

Sorcerers and bards maybe because they are nice, but no wizard!
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>>54392755
>we decide to wait for the monster to come back and follow it
>we already tried to find tracks because it was massive
>it left no tracks in fresh snow (guess now is it cast Pass Without Trace)
>Mayor tells us not to leave, but instead help him keep order
>tell him to go fuck himself because he hid so much important form us
>suddenly his daughter starts freaking out
>foaming at the mouth/convulsing
>we nope the fuck out
>the Mayor tries to arrest us
>our ranger's player who is playing a foreign soldier has to make a choice of following the mayor's orders or helping us
>decides that we're the best chance the town has of surviving and 'relieves' the mayor of duty
>we declare martial law
>grab the mayor's daughter and bring her to the big church on the hill in the center of town
>hadn't had much contact with the priests up until now
>as we're going suddenly there is a fuck huge crash
>the werebear smashes through a building and begin chasing us
>we start having a chase through the streets (with our shit wagon) from the massive werebear
>heading towards the church because it's the only stone building
>see someone on top of the hill
>it's a priest in front of the church, he's had others put out like a perimeter of burning totems
>hear chanting, the bell in the church tolls as we make it inside the barrier
>the werebear starts screaming in pain and runs off
>the priest is this massive dude who introduces himself and goes 'I apologize for not contacting you sooner.'
>tells us to come inside, as events have moved too far for the status quo to be maintained
>the totems apparently they're burning wolf's bane and herbs
>he takes the daughter and does a spell, she calms down
>takes us under the hill, they have this underground chamber with a massive family tree
>explains that there used to be a family that could control the beast, but that they died out more than half a century prior

>>54392822
Ranger got carried off, playing another person temporarily.
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>>54392825
The people who get into games are sociable empathetic people capable of getting along with others. They are considerate and know when to avoid offending or pointless conflict.

The people who get rejected or kicked from games are the ones who don't care about any of that. They have no qualms insulting and kicking up a fuss about anything they don't like.

When the two groups clash over something, Group A is pestered and deterred by Group B's autism and backs off just to stop it happening more. Group B will only escalate if Group A stands their ground, because they have thicker skin and don't care about how big a scene they make when they're angry.

This is how shitposters convinced the productive players they're not wanted, and convinced each other they're in the right, because they got their way.
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So, looking for some thoughts on some homebrew I was conceiving of for an Alchemist archetype.

>Diminished Spellcasting
>spells are automatically infused and are edible instead of drinkable, meaning they can be taken in underwater
>loses mutagen and can never gain a mutagen
>can create a "gingerbread man" construct by combining X number of extracts, maybe 1,000 gp/spell level (so spending 3 first level extracts gives you 3000 gp of construct to create)
>unsure if the construct should be 10 minutes/level (up to hours/level as a replacement for persistent mutagen) with the ability to make multiple or 24 hours but only one construct per day
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>>54392865
Ah, sorry. I'll stop then.
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>>54392795
I'm not looking forward to these. The overly long, highly competitive app process combined with the fact that they have a built-in drawfag and the high-concept game premise is going to make this group absolutely insufferable. They're going to be more full of themselves than the RotJR groups.
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LoBaF tonight! We haven't had a greentext in weeks!
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There ya go, champ. Have this as a prize.
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>>54392959
So literally the Gingerbread Witch, but in Alchemist form instead of a Witch?
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>>54392963
Much appreciated.
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>>54392644
Tit Witch could be fun to draw just for the ginormous boobs!
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>>54392979
>reading South Park to children
0/10, would never hire to babysit
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>>54392973
Can't be much worse than PLD. Until they finally clammed up, they were the absolute worst.

And really, it's just the one RotJR group doing all the shilling and memeing--they're awful enough for both groups.
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Give it to me straight doc, how is Kawase as a player?
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>>54392973
I felt the same way when it first closed, but its been like 3 weeks of silence now. A big update once per monthish sounds nice.

That being said maybe itll turn into what you described once the ball gets rolling, its happened before, but I hope not here.
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>>54392991
>Gruesome Gobbler
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>>54393001
And Kyras in full armor, somehow blushing through his helmet.
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>>54392798
Thanks dude. Do you think I could ask for your help with >>54392396 as well? I've never made a cavalier or a mounted character.
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>>54392950
Oh okay, I was confused since it sounds like one of your players hasn't been here for a while.

>>54392991
>gruesome gobbler
fuckign what
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>>54392950
>>54392755
Why do faggots think it's ok to attention whore in /pfg/.

>>54392963
Kill yourself too while you're at it.
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>>54393037
doesn't use quotes / 10
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>>54392991
Kind of but not at all?
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>>54392857
You, I like you.
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>>54392963
Stop listening to shitposters.

>>54393069
Fuck off m8, some of us like reading greentexts. You are literally trying to tell people to stop posting greentexts on fucking /tg/ of all places.
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>>54392857
>any stranger
You know that Discord / Roll20 isn't Anonymous right?
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>>54393025
>Can't be much worse than PLD
I worry it may just be. The addition of drawfaggotry to the equation (especially with a history of pandering with lewds) is going to keep a few thirstlords screaming any time they try to stop posting.
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>>54392906
what
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>>54393103
I think the implication is that the celebs would give the greentexts out to anon and others, so they wouldn't know who posted it.
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>>54393110
Imagine if PLD had gotten WildSurge. I think Id have had to leave pfg forever.
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>>54393103
No, but making a discord throwaway takes ten seconds.
If players start only trusting people they personally know with greentexts and form a clique, they've still effectively shut out the public.
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>>54393110
I have a feeling that Ensoulment will be a good game but fail to live up to the hype. It'll fall into obscurity and end up running silently like a few other meme games have.
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>>54393152
You can still leave and stop whining.

>>54393110
Have you considered that 'attention whores' and 'thirst lords' aren't the issue here?
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>>54392991
>gruesome gobbler
You know, I could have sworn that dealt 1d12 of damage. It does look like a fun archetype, though.

Do you have the paladin archetype? The, uh, Broken Crusader, I think it's called?
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>>54393174
It's impossible for it to live up to its hype, its hype essentially is "the greatest game of all time".
Speaking of which, how is Overlewd doing?
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>>54392927
>implying your big burly cavalier won't bend over for his cute wizard Mistress so she can plunge her quarterstaff deep inside him and spray magic missiles all over his bowels
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>>54393025
>And really, it's just the one RotJR group doing all the shilling and memeing--they're awful enough for both groups.
They both memed plenty, not just SotJR. Just look at how FotJR milked the Eiffel Tower or raped by gnolls. It's just that people got tired of FotJR much faster because nobody but the DM cared about their characters.
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>>54392973
Speaking of Ensoulment!

Who's going to be taking their place as NPC?
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>>54393192
Both groups are going along great. However, the fact that they diverged so heavily is one reason why greentexts haven't been posted.
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>>54393175
Fuck off Disk.
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>>54393062
>>54393048
I think it was supposed to emulate the witch form Hansel and Gretel. However knowing the nuts at Paizo, it might be someone's fetish there.

Personally, if I were a GM, I'd allow players to take the archetype without the vore abilities if they wanted

>>54393075
Well, it has Craft potion but in candy and pastry form, and you can administer treats in candy form as well. You have a Gingerbread Man Familiar, and confection Conjuration could potentially allow you to summon armies of gingerbread creatures and monsters. While mechanically it might not be the same, in terms of execution and overall intended effect, they're pretty damned similar.

Mix it with Brewkeeper, and now suddeny you've got yourself a walking Candy and Soda Parlour

>>54393187
Should e on the SRD. I only saved this one because I though it was entertaining and because I wanna play as one based off of Gene Wilder's portrayel of Willy Wonka

>>54393061
Give me a sec, and I'll give it a once-over
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>>54392770
>>54392859
Jericho is one of the characters who died to schedule so he probably won't make guest appearances at all.
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>>54393230
Gene Wilder Wonka is a worthy goal. Godspeed, anon.
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>>54393199
You seriously think anybody in FotJR really self-shilled? The fucking kitsune, maybe, but nobody else did. The only person keeping that gnoll rape bullshit alive was fucking Rory, being a shit like he always is. Fuck, SotJR had Ameiko get raped by the same gnoll and nobody gave a shit, they were all too worried about daddy cummies.
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>>54393239
Wasn't he available every day except the actual game day?
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>>54393227
Nope.

>>54393222
They diverged? I know Kenna got Evard's Penetrating Tentacled, but I'm pretty sure that's the last greentext we saw from them. Anyway, good for them.

>>54393230
It's pretty obviously Hansel and Gretel, ffs it's even called Gingerbread.
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What sort of balance/acrobatics checks would I be looking at to stand on the back of my mount while it's moving Andy jump off for a dragoon style jump attack?
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>>54393239
Both Jericho and C3 died to scheduling. Those were the ones I really wanted to get in ;_;
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>>54393239
Has anyone got that player schedule chart saved?

We can narrow down possible NPC appearances to all the characters who are available on tuesdays.
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>>54393057
>Kyras
>not Andrik
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>>54393274
I think that would be a Ride check first, then maybe say, DC 25-30?
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>>54393255
Yes but not until 2 hours after what ended up being the start time, so the sessions would have had to be that much shorter to include him.
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>>54393255
Yeah. I think he was in one of the two final groups but Protag went with the Tuesday group. He's in LoBaF today.
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>>54393282
Either one, so long as it's a knight in full armor with blush marks on his helmet.
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>>54393259
Diverged in the sense of "events are noticeably different". It would be a real bitch to type out greentexts for both games.
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>>54393281
>i'm available on tuesdays
>i don't want my hard work used in a game i'll never get to play again

What do?
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>>54393057
>bathing with boys
Gross
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>>54393274
Imagine that it would be a harder swift dismount, so DC 25 ride check.
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>>54393284
That's not too bad, reachable pretty early with the right build
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>>54393313
Decline the invitation to cameo when asked?
Do you really think Protagonist seems the type to use a character without permission?
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>>54393252
>You seriously think anybody in FotJR really self-shilled?
Not during the app process, but when everybody went apeshit over their orgy they definitely got a taste of the celebrity that SotJR had from the start and suddenly started got really into attention whoring. They only stopped after people pushed back against their egos.
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>>54393313
I'm pretty sure you're meant to specifically ask Protagonist about cameos.
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>>54393332
Well, I don't want him to plan something out, expecting me to say yes, then just have me bail. And I'm not writing any interactions either since I'm not using my time writing for a game that I haven't gotten into.
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>>54393383
You could think of it as networking if you have to force yourself. No one denies that relationships in the community have an effect on app picks, the only debate is whether or not that's fair or not.

Try to make a good impression in case of future games or something.
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>>54393383
Then tell him right now through discord or roll20 that you are not interested in the cameo.
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>>54393282
Why not both?
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>>54393470
Brilliant!
With so much to wash, they'd surely need to work together.
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>>54393479
>getting bathed by two burly men in a Wubu game
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>>54393354
>everybody
I think you're giving them too much credit.
It was Rory, maybe two other guys, and they just spammed the threads whenever RotJR was even mentioned.
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Did somebody call?
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>>54393230
>give it a once-over.
Sure, take your time.
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>>54393714
Fuck you.
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So are all of the good players in games now, and are the people not in games all the bad players?
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>>54393739
The opposite is closer to the truth.
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>>54393739
Yes, unless they're new to the community.
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>>54393725
Sure, what's a good time for you?
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>>54393788
>>54393714
kys Rory
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>>54393802
The showers it is
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>>54393778
Welp
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>>54392452
Bullshit, I remember greentexting my IRL game weekly for the first handful of sessions way before we started having /pfg/ games, and nobody ever cared about them.

But hey, that's just my personal anecdote. Maybe my game was too boring.
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>>54393230
I mean yeah, in terms of intended effect I suppose there's overlap. Can't help it much there though, being focused around baking sweets kind of does that when it's a niche flavor thing.
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>>54393846
I can confirm, unless the game is one that /pfg/ is already going gaga over either due to it being a memegame or having some celeb player or character any greentext you post gets no traffic.
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>>54393922
That makes sense, since they don't know the characters, so there's little initial investment. Greentexts are pretty barebones.
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Why haven't you applied to Power Word: Intrigue?

It's toad-free! And has a bunch of interesting stuff!
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>>54392836
Invulnerable Rager doesn't gain any special defenses which would negate the damage from Vicious or abilities which would make it stronger because of the damage, but I can say that playing an Invulnerable Rager Barbarian with the Come and Get Me! rage power and a Vicious (and Furious, of course) weapon feels pretty effective.
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>>54393943
>It's toad-free
Has Toad ever even made a competitive application to any game? Like, even halfway competitive like Itsuko or something. I don't remember him having any applications that were interestng at all.
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>>54393964
I don't know. I think he's more the type to whine about how he "can't" apply to a game.
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>>54393943
I have no desire to be part of the app circus.
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I got 40 minutes before Ensoulment tonight, anyone want an app looked at?
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>>54393846
>>54393922
That's still overwhelmingly better than the way they're actively chased away by salty anons now.
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>>54393995
I actually have a new assignment for you.
Look at the following applications for Ensoulment.
>Ceraphine
>Jericho
>Itsuko
>C3
>Giancarlo
>Rinta
>Rodrick
>Alexander
And judge how interesting they would be, as NPCs.
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>>54393964
>Itsuko
Hey heck you he didn't write that, he wrote her brother who he killed off because of INTRIGUE
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>>54393995
When will Derrin kiss the princess?
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>>54394057
I was using Itsuko as an example of someone who was a halfway competitive application...
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>>54393766
Got any evidence to back that up?
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>>54394073
Sorry, I thought you were saying that that was the only halfway competitive app that he'd wrote.
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>>54393994
But there is no app circus cuz there is no apps.
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Anyone mind helping me figure out this homebrew?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/10JFe3zdvpr4jOmSaP6OdFU5iaaVT0MBjz0lPuMQEOE4/edit?usp=sharing

Trying to go for two branches: Crippling debuffs, or self buffing with a bit of body horror flavor.
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>>54394106
Why did he get b& anyway? Not in the ebincord.
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>>54394116
And if more app, the circus begins. I'll take a look at it, but I super don't want to go through strawpolls and get accused of being Kawase or Rory or whoever people have chosen to hate. These games seem like a lot of drama just to play Pathifnder.
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Does anyone have the page from Legacy of the First world with the Corgi?
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Going to play a barbarian in Hells Rebels soon chaps. Looking forward to it but I can't make sense of the rebel sheet
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>>54394047
The majority were pretty good apps, and almost all had at least one spot one my potential rosters.

But, If I had to pick, I'd say Ceraphine, Jericho, and Giancarlo would provide the best interactions with the current party, have backstories that require minimal setup, and have a personality that informs their actions; without going overboard and eating up a majority of time.

>>54394066
After what happened at the royal assembly? Possible, but unlikely. At least for now.
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>>54394245
I'd like to gamble with Giancarlo.
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>>54394245
>without going overboard and eating up a majority of time.
Is this about C3 and / or Rinta?

>after what happened at the Royal Assembly
What did you DO?
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>>54394245
What happened? Did Derrin get to hang out with her crush?
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>>54394118
He was being a shit.

>>54394186
But Kawase has already applied! And Rory probably won't apply! Try it, anon! I doubt there'll be any fuss!
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>>54394245
Protagonist should ask DHB to make a higher level Jericho as a sort of 'Figure of Idealism' for the party to see as what a possible end goal of their quest could look like. Jericho basically after he figured out his life.
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>>54394245
Jericho should sweep Raina off her feet!
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>>54394322
I don't think Raina could handle that much snake.
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>>54393479
>>54393502
Surely she can't be washed standing up, too much man and not enough foot space. Nay, she'd need to lay between them, her head resting on one's waist while her rump's on the other.

Just work her over that way, then flip her for the other side!
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aaaaaaa DHB
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>Back to Ensoulment posting
Oh boy.
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>>54394313
Jericho, C3, Rinta, and Rodrick could all work well at a higher level than the party.
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>>54394334
>[clang!]
>muffled "Deus Vult" noises
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>>54394322
no pls ;_;
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>>54394367
>>54394322
If he doesn't, I will.
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>>54394334
Could they not simply hold her aloft between them? She might easily be carried about, her weight fairly distributed!
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Why are all the recruiting games so boring?
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>>54392396
>1/2
>Shining Knight 20/Mammoth Rider 1
Well first of all, that's a level 20 character, and I assume you meant 19/1 instead.

Further, due to the Skill requirement, you are going to be pretty hard up for Skill Points, since unless you're Human, instead of your 1 hp each level you're going to instead be putting your Favored class bonus into Skill Ranks and exclusively put them into Handle Animal and Ride for about 5 levels, and Survival for 5 (I would reccomend afterwards putting it into Perception or a Face Skill. This means the earliest you can probably take this PrC is at level 10, so until then you've got nothing until 5th level, and its still just a dinky horse for another 5 levels. Luckily, your Mount scales full level, so you don't really need to take Boon Companion, so that's a relief. Now, if you only wanna stay in for 1 level, that's fine, since after level 10 dip, 2 levles afterwards you get your nice Knight's Charge ability. Though sadly, your 3rd level ability is going to e useless until 5th level once you actually get your mount. Because of this, it may be worth it to hold off until after level 11 to take your dip into Mammoth Rider, since you will get both Knight's Charge, and your Mount will have Celestial template

Noe, lets talk about After level 12 to see your options. While getting more Smites is all well and good, you will be getting diminishing returns on your class abilities for Paladin, with the only real improvement being at 17th level with Aura of Righteousness.

Now, lets have a look at what 9 levels of Mammoth Rider instead will nab us.
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>>54390392
>Deals 4d6+11 meaning minimum lvl 7 while mages are bursting 7d6 or meta-magic CC auto-hits with other spells.
But infinite ammunition!
>Easily get 4d6+11before get power attack on a 2h combatant of the same or lower level.
>Rules for aid another are up to DM Fiat and I'm a spineless wimp who can't say no when setting up world rules.
>Bitching about 4000lbs when the blast dice and telekinetic haul ability should be at least 7k because the Kinic is eating non-lethal con-damage to have a half-decent trick.
>Object rules and details literally in the rules and doesn't count anything with character or creature stats.
>Deals no extra damage regardless of the size so what did this even matter?

Your players are bored with your writing they can make their own game, but the rest of this is pretty easy to fix or find solutions, counters, or considerations to make them non-issues.

Seriously, in what situation is acting like a fork-lift or crane going to ruin your game?
>Smashes doors.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT A GODDAMN DUNGEONCRASHER DOES TO DOORS?!

Dungeon with portals instead of doors including riddle locks and point-and-click adventure game key systems. Boom, you actually have to think about it now. Spell-Resistance enchantments on doors that break if they're pulled off their hinges since they're part of the enchanted item and breaking them destroys the magical setup same as a sundered magical shield.

You can even be fair and give them something else to use the same power for by having some of the portal keys or puzzles needed be LoZ styled lift-and-move ones to put statues in symbolic patterns, adjust mirrors for lights, block/redirect water-flows or ignite fire lines out of reach.
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>>54394245
Alright Disk, now for the same list, judge how interesting they'd be as antagonists and/OR boss enemies (presumably you'd give them templates, adds, forts, more levels, or all of the above)

>>54394413
Hm?
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>>54394413
The game craze is loosing steam. Finally.
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>>54394423
They're boring, anon. None of them have an over-the-top plot or grand campaign.
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>>54394436
Kill yourself Gareth
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>>54394448
I don't think Ensoulment did either to be fair. What kind of grand campaign do you want? Is it just high-power that people are looking for?
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>>54394454
I'm not Garebear. I don't even drink.
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>>54394419
This is going to be an epic campaign, So 20/1, with every new level going to Mammoth Rider.
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>>54394436
I just want it to finish with one last pump of thick, meaty campaign material.
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>>54394436
>tfw no Pathfinder groups near me
>tfw won't be able to play without /pfg/ games because Roll20 randos are rubbish
;_;
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I just want a mythic game that isn't gestalt. I want to be a demigod struggling against other demigods.
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>>54394342
Rodrick was boring.
C3 deserves to die.
Only Rinta and Jericho are pure.
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>>54394482
>I want a mythic game but it can't be too high powered
?
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>>54394390
But if they do this, how shall they wash her? Their hands will be devoted to holding her between them! Branwen might be a tough young woman, but I fear she lacks the strength to hold herself between big, burly men working her over from both ends.
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>>54394488
>Rinta
>The Swarm
>pure
Lolno
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>>54394469
Wish you said so sooner, I was in the middle of my next post when I saw this. Now I have to throw it all out of the window.

Also, you're starting at 20/1? Because that changes a few things
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>>54394501
I want to bully Rinta with lewd thoughts.
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>>54394465
High-power and/or high level, yes. Something that gives us the levels and CharGen to insist we go wild in writing the character's backstory.
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>>54394515
So something like Journey to the West then, at least in Chargen?
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>>54394470
>>54394481
Even if the /pfg/ game flood DOES end, it'll come back eventually. /pfg/ is nothing if not cyclical.
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>>54394491
Gestalt is dumb because it makes everyone too versatile. It means party roles are going to be far too wide. It muddles the pool.
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>>54394492
Hmm, good point--I had imagined that they might each devote a hand to washing, and let her hold herself up on their shoulders, but that's a bit unfair to the dear lady.

Perhaps if they laid her down on her side, and each took one half of her, front and back. Then they might allow her some leisure while they attend to her.
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>>54394527
Absolutely, that was one hell of a CharGen! Personal touches could abound, however; perhaps it's level 11 instead of 10, or has Mythic, or forces you to take one type of class for one side of the Gestalt!
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>>54394509
Yes, sorry. Long story short, this is a continuation of a custom Mythic game my team and I played about three years ago. It was our first campaign, and will be picking up a few years after we killed, I think his name was Father Limmick?
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>>54394423
As antagonists? Roughly the same list, probably replace Giancarlo with C3.

The reason I liked those characters as NPCs is because they have multiple points of friction with the party, but similar overall goals. Some of the bitterest conflicts come from two parties who largely agree fighting over minutiae.

Mechanically... eh? PCs fighting PCs is kind of a shit show all around; with some characters being swing-y to the point that it wouldn't even be fun.

I'd be lying if I said I didn't want to have a massive gala where the party is trying to root out a traitor hidden amongst friendly faces. Ending in a duel, possibly on a rooftop!
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>>54394595
>probably replace Giancarlo with C3
ELVES MUST DIE
EXTERMINATE THE KNIFE-EARS
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>>54394481
Have you applied to the current games?
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>>54394561
RESTOV
E
S
T
O
V
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>>54394614
I'm planning on doing Intrigue and maybe Essentia depending (dunno if I have time during that period), I applied to Iron Gods already.
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>>54394595
>TFW Itsuko isn't mentioned at all

O-okay then, I'll just... stand over here... I guess.
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>>54394657
If it means anything to you, I would've loved to lovingly bully Itsuko.
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>>54394501
>>54394512
Rinta is pure! PURE!
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>>54394626
Has Wubu even introduced NPCs yet? I mean, besides the obvious Levetons.
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>>54394730
Kesten showed up, a few bandits got names and a bit of personality to make people feel guilty, and there's a few more names floating around.

RIP Stag Lord
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>>54394639
I should look at Essentia. Maybe I'll do that tonight. Well, you have 2 possible right there. I wish you luck in your pursuit of fun.
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>>54394595
Disk, help the stuttering brit out and review Itsuko
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>>54394719
Exactly why I would've loved to bully her.
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>>54394730
>>54394764
I want to hear about Wubu's custom NPCs designed to satisfy her deviant desires with the PCs!
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>>54394801
Does she actually have a DMPC?
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>>54394730
>>54394764
Jhod got name dropped, but he's a cleric of Abadar now apparently. Also there were a couple NPCs in Restov from session 0, but they haven't been seen or heard from since.
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>>54394811
Nope
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>>54394436
There have been multiple predictions that the game craze was winding down over the past few months.

They were wrong, each time.
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>>54394811
She sure does, and her name is Dalia
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New-ish bread

>>54394460
>>54394460
>>54394460
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>>54393802
wasn't me this time, anon. I was too busy learning to draw so that I didn't have to go searching for character art
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>>54394469
>>54394419
>>54394590
Well, since its Epic, and not as constrained, I guess I'll just skip to more simpler advice: Feats and Archetypes.

For archetypes for PAladin to stack with Shining Knight, I higly reccomend taking somehting that removes casting, so you can make the most out of Mammoth Rider's Mistrust of Magic ability, and gain increased resistance against all 3 branches of magic. Saddly, the only 1pp archetype that is compatible is Warior of the Holy Light, but it should be cool being able to shoo lasers while riding a Mammoth or other large celestial creature, plus the ally bonuses from your light will help boost the strength of your monster.

Next are archetypes for your Animal Companion. Now, Charger seems like it might work well for your purposes http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/druid/animal-companions/animal-companion-archetypes/charger-companion-archetype/
Since it gets bonuses for charging and can wear barding more efficiently, meaning BETTER armor for your Mammoth (especially if you splurge on some nice enchanted Mithril barding)
Plus, if you decide to interrupt Paladin for a 2-level dip in Cavalier, now your Mount can get Challenge bonuses. If you choose to take this path, you can either go for Emissary or Gendarme to reduce the tax on Mounted Combat. Combine with a good Order for you and your companion (like Dragon or Beast(ACG)) and you and your buddy can just stomp people into paste

Now for Feats. Mounted combat is of course necessary, as are the utual Power Attack and other things for Str combat. Protector's Smite will be good to allow your companion to also benefits from your Smite's AC Bonus, but only against smaller enemies that can't jump up and smack you in the face. Smite Evil Magic is also fun since its essentially a Spell Sunder, but much ore expensive, so if you do take this feat, save it for special occasions. Adept Champion could help you you are Smiting and want to Overun
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>>54394840
Who were the NPCs, were they CUTE?
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>>54394908
Then who?
Putting money on Disk right now.
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>>54394764
You guys already killed the stag lord?
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>>54394947
No...he was usurped...
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>>54394947
No. The worlds have shifted.
The Stag Lord was killed by one of his own men, who took control of his ill-gotten gains and became the SWAG LORD
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>>54394947
Nope, Dovan was gilded and killed him. He is now known as the Swag Lord.
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>>54394937
I barely ever come to the thread. I have my own projects to manage. Learning to draw, mostly. I'm not gonna name any names anyhow.
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>>54395000
Go review Itsuko m8
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>>54394937
Is Disk some kind of boogyman? I know there was the big hubbub about him reviewing his own app for some game or another, but has he actually done anything bad since then? Other than be kind of pretentious?
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>>54395032
>I know there was the big hubbub about him reviewing his own app for some game or another
To be fair? That's already worse than anything Vult or Kawase did. Even Rory, arguably, as self-shilling isn't as bad as literally reviewing your own apps favorably to give some sort of ''''official''''' opinion on it.
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>>54394919
The mayor of Restov and an intimidating Aldori Swordlord lady that stared Kyras down.
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>>54395109
Was the Swordlord lady cuuuuuute?
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>>54395032
Apparently not liking most obvious fapbait means I hate all forms of fun or something. I dunno.

>>54395063
Friendo, I was reviewing everyone in order. Arbitrarily skipping myself would have looked suspicious.

Plus I gave myself a 6/10
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>>54395129
GO REVIEW ITSUKO
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>>54395129
Review Raimi
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>>54395152
I want to make a Raimi /tv/ meme but my brain hurt.
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>>54395118
He said intimidating, people can't be intimidating and cute at the same time.
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>>54393202
I'm definitely going to try to work things to make Takashi take that game into overtime.
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>>54395250
What about intimidatingly cute?
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>>54395250
Yeah, they've got to switch off from one mode to another. Let the mask down, you know.
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>>54395063
There have been some actually bad people, yeah. They deserve more of a rep than they have.
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So, something occurred to me while I was making a mug cake. In theory, wouldn't starfinder be perfect for a Final Fantasy style campaign?
>Energy guns are replaced by staves, scepters, and wands, depending on how large the weapon is
>Physical guns and bows can just do their own thing
>Airships using the starship rules, including personal fliers for ace combat shit
>there's going to be a whole mess of different races we can refluff to our own ends
>Magic that's good without being overwhelming versus mundane stuff
>Still has all the halmarks of fantasy gaming, like potions and whatnot, because we can steal shit from pathfinder
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>>54380241
>>54382328

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qJ1E8EljVM

Musical shitheel reviews by some fucking anon are back, and today we're continuing on Iron Gods.

For reference, the reviews are:

1.Kromas Ironbrand >>54382192
2. Conall Cernach
3. Elrana
4. Semzaya Baine >>54382053
5. Erecura
6. Luthaya
7. Shadilay the Bloodblade
9. Sallet >>54380779
10. Jaden Stillblade >>54380955
11. Cynn
12. Kodrak aka "Meltdown"
13. Dragoslav Novak >>54380439
14. Zed the Friendly >>54381908
15. Anka The Burning Princess
16. Fenny, the Dwarf Orc
17. Abigail Petran >>54381546
18. Aesi Dicee
19. Sir Pagone Veha
20. Layne Caeduin

Overall impressions are as follows: some pretty good apps overall, Roll20 randos are being too self-conscious about their writing and should just output character backstories of substance instead of worrying so much. Kromas awakened my late-night existential angst and made me aware of the fact my consciousness is a construction of faulty nerves contained in a vessel of decaying flesh, and the long night approaches for all mankind.

Favorite so far was Semzaya, but she's also the most out of place. Abigail was objectively my fetish.

Fenny is next!
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>>54396846
wrong thread m8
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>>54396940
I feel real silly, fampai, I do.
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....only if she has water breathing.
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