/40kg/ - Warhammer 40,000 General

>>54315447

That Primaris Dreadnought is like a butterface. Like, I admit some parts of it are great, and I can see why people like it, but it's just so hideous. Like a 0/10 face on a 10/10 body. You can't say no to that booty.

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>How every Astartes now reacts to a Primaris.

>>54315456
I just want the weapon bits for conversion material.

Answer me this /tg/, why are Taufags constantly so insecure and feel the need to prove themselves?

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Is pic related any good ?
24 points for twin HB variant and 50 for Twin Lascannom variant.

>>54315447
new SM codex when?

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I was working on a slight conversion for my gun boops. I like it a lot more than the weird gun fists.

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>>54315447

Ha! Nowhere near a leviathan in stats!

Basically they oversized the model unnecessarily. Shoulda been about the size of a Contemptor with this profile.

I mean fuck, look at the stats: Fucker isn't even venerable.

This may well still be a great unit depending on efficiency for points, but holy hell is it not a Leviathan rivaler.

>>54315509
Before the end of the month supposedly. Will probably hear more about it next week.

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Smurf doctrine just drop

>>54315478
Probably because they go online to be huge faggots as they are wont to do, and then everyone calls them out on it relentlessly. Hating on Taufags is one of the few good things the 40k online community has achieved, and even that has some faggots trying to TIDF it.

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Eldarfags
BTFO
T
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>>54315466

>>54315509
On warhammer live yesterday they had a physical copy, so they are probably printing all the copies to ship out and shipping them out to stores right now

>>54315516

Ultramarines are experts in running away.

>>54315514
Leviathan is nowhere near Redemptor in size

Marinelets when will they learn

>make use of Chapter Tactics, meaning an Ultramarines Redemptor is going to be very very dangerous – over two turns you could shoot, charge, fall back and shoot again. Nasty!

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>>54315518
what a shitty image
try harder next time faggot

>>54315447
Redemptor Dreadnought looks like a pregnant lady waddling down the street

still want one tho

>>54315516
>>54315526
Ultramarines confirmed for french in space.

>>54315538
I'm reposting faggot. Looks like you are still mad

>>54315516
>lolol +1 Ld get cucked Ultracucks-
>wait, isn't that actually good?
>like REALLY good, especially with ATSKNF?
>wait they get to assault weapon shoot while disengaging too?

What the fuck GW making Ultras even more broken than they were in 8E? What's White Scars gonna have, Fall Back has no penalties and all units gain Hammer of Wrath mortal wound and infiltrate?

I'm interested in the chadmarines and I was interested at the First Strike box.

Should I take it or go for the Know No Fear one?

>>54315514
looking at the OP picture it seems pretty obvious its for dakka and not melee krumping unless it has extra arm options

>>54315538
Oh look an assblasted npcfag, enjoy being squatted when 9th comes out

>>54315532

They're exactly the same height and pretty similar in bulk. Leviathan looks more muscular, Redemptor has lanky legs and a beer belly.

>>54315548
>mfw there are other people telling him he's retarded now
>mfw he thinks all of us are the person in that image
>mfw he's too stupid to realize why he's such a huge faggot for spamming shit nobody cares about

Hating Eldarfags is one thing, but you're going about it in the stupidest way.

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Do we know if GW is going to update Kill Team ruleset to 8th edition?

>>54315544
>>54315526
You realize that they have the old ATSKNF loop, right?
Get in a units face, let them charge you, or charge them if they can wipe you, take hits and leave your best guns alive, fall back, auto recover, point blank dakka.
>>54315518
We care not for forced memes here, anon.

>>54315549
Really good is overstating it a bit. It's nice, but hardly game changing. The fallback is strong though for sure.

>>54315514
>rivalling even the venerable Leviathan pattern and trading out its older cousin’s atomantic shielding for more weapons.
Yeah, if it doesn't have an invulnerable save then that's a big loss.

>>54315518
How many threads in a row are you going to post this?
Protip: It's too many already.

>>54315551
First strike is a babby tier build set, Know No Fear is a cuck tier version of Dark Imperium.

>>54315565
>obvious eldarfag
>being this mad about shitposting
>stop liking what I don't like

>>54315554

>BS3
>Has a fist
>Heavy weapons will be BS4 if you wanna move to use that fist

Also article calls out that it doesn't have Atomatic shielding, so leviathan is T8 2+ 4++ and Redemptor is T7 3+. Even as a gun platform, leviathan lasts longer, has better BS and can take two primary arm guns.

>>54315577
>image board
>contributes nothing
Faggot

>>54315577

It doesn't even have more weapon hardpoints than a leviathan: Yeah, the current FW rules don't include rules for the top mount missiles that come in the kit, but it's still the same number and arrangement of hardpoints overall.

>>54315514
Yeah, I'm not sure what they're going for with this "leviathan but worse" angle. No invuln, 3+ save. The weapons will have to be really fucking good.

>>54315522
you know theu are printed in CHINA right ? Codex are printed like 7 months in advance

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>>54315561
>ASSBLASSTED DAMAGE CONTROL, NO RECOVERY IN SIGHT

>>54315621
Damn, I guess the books are carcinogenic too.

>>54315615

You really think the weapons are going to be better than the Grav Flux Bombard?

You really think the fist is going to be better than the siege drill, which is basically a dread chainfist on a S8 platform when the Redemptor is S7?

>>54315633
like open any codex or index it says printed in China

>>54315615
It's got almost as many wounds as a land raider but moves and acts just like a dreadnought. It's literally just a better defiler but with no 5+ invuln

>>54315637
You really think they wont up the base price of the leviathan 150 points in the next FaQ to sell more Redemptor ?

>>54315565
>>mfw he thinks all of us are the person in that image
The funny part is that it was not one person but 3 or 4 anons

>>54315638
>owning any printed material

I

>>54315581

One day someone is going to say something retarded, like you yourself being accused of being an eldarfag, then you'll realize how dumb you are and how little shit I give. I give just enough shit to give you a response to let you know just how little shit I give.

>>54315643
I don't know how many points a wound on a vehicle is worth but I imagine it will cost somewhere along the lines of 135 points before weapons

>>54315637
>You really think the weapons are going to be better than
No. I'm just saying they have a lot of balls claiming it's on the same level as a leviathan with the given stats.

>>54315643

You really think main studio cares what FW are doing?

>>54315551
Wait for the actual kits

>>54315650

>Owning any models

>>54315650
>his pirated scans don't have the front page

>>54315655
>Whatisashareholder.gif
see you in the next faq, marinelet.
I'm sure those shareholders arent there to push new products at all and make money.

>>54315572
Probably yes, when they need some release for a slow month.

In honesty, These "skirmish" game is not that great, just some half ass rule that quickly turn into unbalance mess.

>>54315514
Yeah, but how much power is a leviathan? this thing is only a tad more pricy than a contemptor
>inb4 power
i know but its a good guide

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>>54315518
mfw a good third of those posts are me and I don't even play eldar

>>54315668
>Owning anything instead of living in communist Utopia

>>54315653

Yeah, it honestly seems more like a Contemptor equivalent?

No Atomatic shielding, but a bit more bulk so more wounds. Pilot isn't venerable because it's more mass-producible, but comes with more gun hardpoints.

It has ups and downs compared to the three statlines that comprise imperial Contemptor Dreads, whereas the leviathan blows both out the water.

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>>54315668
>not proxing models with salami slices

>>54315681
This thing is only 3 power less than a Leviathan.

>>54315695
Aren't leviathans 16?

>>54315681
>>54315695
Leviathans are 16 pwr and 175pts ex wargear

>>54315687
>playing capitalist games and posting about them on a zionist goat shearing board
I have news for you, comrade.

>>54315705
>Aren't leviathans 16?
with bodies like that they'd better be

>>54315709
>Actually playing 40k

>>54315651
>nonsense
>more nonsense
Nice post

>>54315691
>eating models that get slain
>Tyranids and Necrons heal squads by barfing up salami

>>54315713
This makes leviathans sound like jail bait

>>54315688
>Haha thay first marinedread is bad that means all dreads are bad
>few years later and 8 alternative/bigger version of dreadnaught out
>Wowow haha that first primarisdread is so bad haha

>>54315686
>still mad

>>54315678

All of that money was made off marinelet releases though. There haven't been enough time and haven't been any official data for Primaris sales. It hasn't even been one quarter, so they haven't even done their sales tax returns, let alone an actual financial statement.

>>54315724
With those stats they are

>>54315705

Yeah, Leviathans are 16. Too pricey to spam, but a lovely centrepiece model for the amount of oomph you get from that ~300-340 points.

I find the key to getting the most out of my leviathan is to make sure he's not in a good firing lane position to be alpha struck... He's a hell of a fire magnet, and can and will draw an entire army's shooting.

(Not that that'a tactically a bad thing, I've won two games specifically because so much effort went into killing my leviathan everything else was completely free to maneuver and fire)

>>54315724
Crazy, armed, and underage, the magical combo.

>>54315722
>eating the defeated opponent
>You have now 50 more gaunts in your army

>>54315728
k

>>54315736
Yeah they're pretty nuts and should probably cost more than they do.

>>54315769
>admits he is a faggot
there we go

>>54315731
I want female Leviathan Dreadnought porn now.

But would I be arrested for it?

Only Smurf doctrine so far? Any unique stratagem yet?

>>54315551
Know no fear is the best value. Its only missing a few characters thatll get released anyway.

how useless will raven guard doctrine be? ;-;

>>54315802
I don't know, what are Raven Guard?

>>54315802
>non-jump pack assault marines gain scout deployment rule

>>54315802
>On a hit roll of 6, the hit gains the sniper rule

>>54315789
We just know they're getting them.

On the plus, this does give us an idea of what other things may be. Something tells me Raven Guard may be getting the ability to charge after falling back, maybe?

>>54315823
That's raptors nigga

>>54315736
>Fire lanes
EARTHSHAKER 1 THROUGH 3 TAKE AIM

>>54315784
>Arrested for drawn porn

Spotted the leaf

>>54315831
>drawn

Pleb

Can DAngels use Leviathan Dreads in 40k? I build lists in battlescribe and can't find it in any of the categories

>>54315826
Which arent a true chapter

>>54315839
why use leviathan dread when you can use chaddread with 6 weapons ?

>>54315802
I'm hoping they may get some sort of infiltrate ability for infantry, partially because RG reivers sound like good fun.

>>54315816
I think they're a Blood Ravens successor chapter

>>54315842
Because Leviathan looks sexy as fuck and chad looks like he had a couple too many beers

>>54315839
yes they share the imperium and adeptus astartes faction keywords

>>54315516
That's ridiculously good, what the fuck. Every Ultra is a mini-battlesuit now. That's fucking retarded considering it's free.

>>54315784

>female Leviathan dreadnought porn

Ancient Veronica raises a trembling siege claw and lifts off the front of her sarcophagus. Between the gigantic fridge-like shoulders of her chassis now lies a quadruple amputee burn victim with dozens of wires fused into her stumps and the back and sides of her head, breathing heavily, face flushed.

>W-well, this is me.

On the plus side, she has a pretty nice rack.

>>54315856
>W-well, this is me.

Fuck that comic is so bad

>Orks don't get statline for Mega-Dread
>Meka-Dread gets option for weapon they don't make for that model (rattler kannons)
>Doesn't get weapon option for load out they do sell (Killkannon)
Does FW even care?

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>>54315514
I'm not sure what they are going for here. I mean, it's a lot cheaper and FW's new rules are mostly horribly imbalanced, but still...

>>54315861

>Fuck that comic is so bad

Yes, now imagine it with a leviathan dread.

>>54315516
5/10 it's ok

- rogal dorn

>>54315876
okay I imagined it and it's now 1000% better

Was Devastation of Baal already released? Cause people are talking about it but the site said it would available in november.

>>54315876
What comic?

>>54315518
epic levels of desolation, many lolz were had

>>54315873
>inb4 GravFlux Bombard is 110pts each in the next faq

>>54315856
>W-well, this is me
Top fucking kek

>>54315518
>even the trash doesn't deserve that kind of treatment
>everyone's a faggot
My sides

Any news on GK getting new models?

>>54315893
webcomic called questionable content, had a story arc with a trans person who gets nobbed by the main character

>W-well, this is me
comes from that scene

The more I look at this fucker, the less good its gun looks. I mean, compare the vanilla Sicarian, which is pure elegance, to this clunky gun mount.

>>54315919
He either fucked a chick with a dick or he fucked a chick with an inverted dick. Think about that. It makes it 50x worse.

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>>54315923
Derp, forgot the pic.

>>54315935

Yeah, the gun is good and the tank is good, but it's very awkwardly mounted.

>>54315923
I don't know why they didn't just put it in the turret like a punisher

Are dread drop pods worth using?

>>54315946

Or make it two guns, like any other Sicarian.

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>>54315933
meh whatever cooks your turtle

pic related, a typical QC strip

>>54315447
lol that mecha looks fuckin retarded, like a gundam with downs syndrome

>>54315950

God no, you could just take a quad bolter mortis for that price and have 11 points left over.

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ORK

CLANS

WHEN

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>54315969
In their Codex, dummy.

>>54315963
Keep on subject darling. this it TG not one of those queer boards

>>54315963
Which marine chapter would hold the most disdain for trannies and other degenerates?

>>54315981
red scorpions

>>54315981
Every single one I assume. Even fags like the Angels pair would fine shit like that disgusting.

>>54315447
That dread looks like a drunk three-year-old tried to recreate something out of Battletech

>>54315969

Yeah honestly they should hold off on the codex releases a bit so they can do large numbers of them in waves, at least one imperial, chaos and Xeno codex per wave to limit the number of people left out in the cold.

>>54315981
Marines Malevolent. they hate everything and anything...

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>ultima founding

wew lad, who /newchapter/ here?

I'm eyeballing the Blades of Vengeance, nice looking new dark angels successor. the bone pauldrons break up some of the green for a nice neo-dark angels look

>>54315981
All the good factions hate deneracy

>>54315971
I know you git, I just want it now

>>54315981
I'd guess any one that's been repeatedly fucked by Slaanesh

You could make your own and have that as its back story

>>54315963
okay well I'm glad you've done you research.....

I'm just going to carry on talking about plastic soldiers if that's okay

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>>54315994
>gw giving a fuck about anyone but mureens and weeb-bots

>>54315516
fuck me
the chaos legion tactics better be this good, that is fantastic

>>54315516
So, with Ultramarines CT being spoiled, what do you guys expcet for the other chapters?
Iron Hands, I would guess, retain their 6+ bionics save.

>>54316003
I'll either do Raptors, Warbringers, or Rift Stalkers depending on the codex.

>>54315935
why the fuck is this on a sicarian platform instead of literraly any IG ones

>>54316026
Those aren't chapter tactics. UM chapter tactics is >>54315536

>>54316003
I really like the blades on vengeance scheme too. Probably picking up that set of 3 snapfit intercessors tomorrow just to paint, so gonna do one in their scheme.

>>54316028
I can't wait to find out.

There are supposedly 8 armies in codex space marines. We know Ultramarines are one of them. What are the other 7 going to be?

>>54316003
>Have literraly the choice berween a gazillion chapter
>Still choose (((Faggots)))

>>54316039
Trolling or retarded?

>>54316049
We get it, no one liked your taufag meme.

>>54316046
Black Templar, likely. I'm guessing non-SW, DA, BA, Grey Knights SM. So the Iron Fists, Imperial Fists, White Scars, Salamanders, Raven Guard, Ultramarines, Black Templar, and maybe Deathwatch?

Plus successors.

>>54316049
what did he mean by this

I really don't know

>>54316039
b-but thats exactly the same

>>54316018

Well, we know where their priorities lie. That said, with a stated commitment to game balance the release schedule should look something like this:

Wave 1: Marines, Chaos Marines, Guard, Craftworlds, Tau (those being the most popular in the "other imperium", "Eldar alliance" and "other xenos" categories)

Wave 2: Space Woofs, Chaos Daemons, Admech, Dark Eldar, Necrons

Ect.

Basically a scattershot variety approach designed to have a better chance of hitting most players.

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>>54316054
Excuse me, (((Faggot))) ?
I'll kill Schlomo Wolowitz you unironical Chapter master of Blades of Isreal

really want to know what the world eaters legion doctrine is now

>>54316071
You realize that hebrew names don't equate being jewish right? Lionel Johnson was a catholic.

>>54316003
>raven guard are supposed to le sneaky camo marines
>their successor, the rift stalkers, has bright white power armor

so their reason for not being just literally raptors is that they aren't visually stealthy. in a world that makes sense this is true, anyway.

>>54315724
Not in the uk m8, 16 is nice and legal

>>54316071
you might need to explain that post for people who don't regularly visit /pol/

>>54316081
Pretty sure it the double attack thing

>>54315678
>he thinks the shareholders actually pay attention to releases and minutae rather than check the stock fluctuations and GW's quarterly reports
You are fucking dense, anon.

>>54316083
It's cus one of the DA images in one of the HH books has what appears to be a Star of David on it.

That's basically it. They think that its the height of wit.

>>54316066
Considering they've already confirmed Grey Knights as one of the first releases it wouldn't surprise me if they just focus on the Imperium and Chaos first, or at least release a couple of the non vanilla marine books along side other books early.

>>54315905
>appreciates my contributions
thanks anon, feels good to bring laughter

>>54316089
Eh, I think they'll keep that JUST the berserkers. Probably more like plus one attack or strength on the charge. Or maybe -1 AP.

What's the best loadout for warwalkers? AMLs?

>>54316083
>Gay Catholic
Literraly impossible, I'm atheist and even i know god doesnt want you if you're gay.
But you suck "Feminine Penis" so what do I know.

>>54316085
>Le raptor meme xdddd

>>54316095
You're welcome!

>>54316046
>Ravenguard
>Iron Hands
>Black Templar
>White Scars
>Imperial Fists
>Salamanders
>Crimson Fists

>tfw still no love for Blood Ravens

>>54316108
>I'm atheist
Embarrassing.
You know that the poem "Dark Angel" is about him not wanting to betray his faith in God to satisfy his lust, right?

>>54316066
except they've already said the next 3 are dg, gk, csm so thats 4 mureen codex's in a row

>>54316062
Clearly Grey Knights are getting their codex so quickly that it seems unlikely they will be featured, but do you think they'll really make those main factions wait so long? Or were all their rules in the index to hold them over until a few months from now?

>>54316108
>look how retarded /pol/ is guys
piss off false flagger

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If Lion'el Johnson is the emperor's son, does that mean the emperor's name is John?

>>54315447
Ehhhhhh it could be worse.

>>54316089
it better fucking not be, also I think thats just berzerkers special rule

>>54316129
He's probably some nu/pol/ /r/the_donald retard. Watch him use echoes here and then upvote a based kike in a MAGA cap later.

>>54316124

I know, I was just stating an approach that'd come in waves with a gentler impact on the meta.

>>54316136
Kill yourself

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>>54316131

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>>54315873
>CSM counterpart is better
What the fuck happend, I was away for only a month

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>>54316119
god it was worth staying up until 2:30am for that shitfest, I gotta shitpost more, turns out I've got a hidden talent actually it's my only talent

>>54316138
Struck a nerve, did I?

>>54316125
Probably. They're too big to put into the codex, and we've already been TOLD they're getting their own.

I would be shocked if BA, DA, and SW aren't among the books by December though.

>>54316131
Lion'el Jonson translates to "Lion, son of the forest". And "el" means son. So on Caliban forest means jonson. Make of that what you will.

>>54316131
it's explained in a number of DA books that it means "Lion of the Forest" so presumably on Caliban the word for forest is Johnson.... I guess the original colonists though it would be funny

>>54316144
tangentially related, are nobz in a naut good in 8th?

>>54316121
>bolt it down
>bolt it all down
>bolt it down, bolt it all down

>>54316153
CAN'T SEE THE FOREST FOR THE TREES IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN LAD

>>54316121
>Crimson Fists separate from Imperial Fists
I doubt it

>>54316149
Agreed, it seems strange to leave your biggest armies hanging for very long, though if they get chapter tactics in codex space marines their individual codices could be delayed a while and it wouldn't be that big of a deal.

>>54316106
EMLs for all round or lances if you need a specific thing to explode right the fuck now.

>>54316160

Nobz are surprisingly decent, outfitted with Big Choppas and Power Stabbas. Just avoid Power Klaws and you'll be fine. 'Nauts on the other hand are pretty much just meme units; they continue to pay out the arse for their godawful guns and they don't have the survivability to stand up to the kind of shooting being flung around the battlefields of 8th. They will make short work of most things they actually make contact with mind, but that's not enough to justify that horrific points cost.

>>54316154
>>54316153
>>54316131
it gets even weirder when you realise there's no actual lions on Caliban, even the description given of a Caliban Lion sounds more like a Flesh hound

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>>54316085
>Not being a creative Patrician and having your own Primaris Chapter using Camo

Which is better? d3 attacks at s5 ap -2 or d6 attacks at s5 ap -1

>>54316203
>the lion beat the fuck out of a flesh hound as a child
Damn...

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>>54316108
You can be a gay Catholic, you just can't have the gay sex. It's a sin and your cross to bear, just like some of us are overly lustful, gluttonous, slothful, etc. Lots of gays used to become priests, which is why we ended up with all that diddling of altar boys desu

t. Catholic

>>54316208
What are you shooting? Also refer to mathhammer sheet.

>>54316208
>is 1.5 attaclks worth -1 ap in hoard edition
What do you think

>>54316203

So his name means Flesh Hound of the Penis Woods.

>>54316217
>hoard
tisk tisk tisk

>>54316208
d6 attack at S5, AP -1 is better against everything except 2+ saves and 3+ saves in cover.

>>54316218
That's "Flesh Hound, Son of the Penis Woods" to you, faggot.

>>54316202
Sort of related, what bits are you gents using to model power stabbas?

>>54316203

"there are no lions on caliban", he snarled with a wet leopard growl.

"hold, brother, thy choler is up due to the choking fug of war", said his battle brother

"theoretical: the fug of war has raised our choler. this is not some random act of xenos contrition. practical: we must fall back" said the ultramarine

>every 40k thread for the last ten years has had some faggot talking about gay DAs
Is this undeniable proof faggots are cancer?

>>54316225
>2017
>Careing about homophone
what aer you, a dark angles player?

>>54316252
Yes.

>>54316233
Oh, I forgot to mention the d3 ap-2 ignores cover

>>54316218
there are no lions on caliban, only lyna calybana

>>54315778
k

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>>54316268
>does not deny the admission
Like pottery.

>>54316248
I lol'd harder than I should have done

>>54315826
either way its still useless.
if you're roling to hit its already to late to make use of the Sniper rule

>>54316264
In that case the d3, S5, AP-2 Ignores Cover is better against 2+ armour (in or out of cover) and 3+ and 4+ armour in cover.

>>54315840
wot? yes they are. they have their own chapter tactics and everything.

>>54316302
Interesting. Thanks.

I'm trying to decide between a 20 man squad of guardians, 2 warwalkers, or a squad of fire dragons.

I'm up against nids. What should I get? I have a Wave Serpent for the fire dragons already.

>>54316278
k

>>54316247

Bits? The standard choppas that come with the Nob kit have had wires and generator things on them since they came out. It's only now they actually serve a purpose.

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>>54316316
Do you mean to purchase? Or you already have them and are choosing for your army list?
Either way, Fire Dragons because they're fucking awesome.

>>54316278
Thank you for your intelligent contribution

>>54316278
don't forget to post the cheetah pics so we can recognise your posts

>>54315447
>4 attacks
>not t8
what the fuck, sounds like its going to have some beastmode shooting + chapter tactics

at the same time its just two more PL than a deff dread so yeah... just FUCK my kans up t b h

>>54316278
You know that it's really obvious that you're an impostor, right?

>>54316327
Good point

>>54316180

Crimson Fists occupy the same special category as Black Templar. They are more likely to get a main Codex slot than any FW chapter. That being said, I wouldn't be surprised if an 8th slot isn't take up by the Unnumbered Sons.

This quiet offends Slaanesh

>>54316036
because IG already have a Punisher tank.

>>54316367
Your face offends Nurgle.

>>54316325
k

>>54316373
which as nothing to do with something that caliber.

>>54316341

I think its just going to be an oversized distraction. Can't really shoot well, can't really melee well, can't really take hits well, and most people will just tie it up with fodder while focusing firepower elsewhere.

If they release a Venerable Redemptor, though, that shit will probably be a beast.

>>54316367
The quieter the better.

>>54316333
>>54316339
>>54316352
k

>>54316376
Yeah well your future's so fucked up, Tzeentch is like 'I'm not touching that'

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>>54315960
>GW killed the fluffy options because pod spamming faggots of last edition

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Alright anons, making the final purchases for my Dark Eldar army to get back into this game; is there any reason I should take one or two of these instead of just having 4 Sslyth?

There is the points cost, but I think if Sslyth outclass them entirely I'd rather shave points elsewhere, especially as my army is pretty lacking CQC potential at present.

>>54316404
Rekt

>>54316414
Looks, you fucking waacfag

>>54316395
Your dad's going to beat your mum so badly, even Khorne will do a double take.

>>54316414
It looks like a cool cyclops

>>54316380
there's the vulcan macharius if you want bigger gsttling gun on am IG tank.

Airbrush-wantingfag here, seeking some more advice before I place an order for my first airbrush.

Let's say I am 100% buying a gravity-fed airbrush with dual action trigger and a compressor with tank and pressure regulator and water trap. Within your chosen budget, would you opt for a higher quality airbrush or a higher quality compressor?

As a first timer, it worth spending more on getting an airbrush with a trigger stop "crutch" so I can produce smoother coats?

The airbrush I'm looking at it is
https://www.air-craft.net/acatalog/Infinity-CRPlus-2-in-1-Airbrush-126594.html with a cheap £80 compressor and tank and cleaning/thinning ancillaries. I've read that this airbrush is super easy to clean because of how it is designed and it has a .15 and .40 needle and nozzle for flexibility.

Or there's this: https://www.air-craft.net/acatalog/Harder-Steenbeck-Evolution-Silverline-Solo-Airbrush.html#SID=145

Any input?

>>54316414
Because metagaming is fucking cancer. Play a fluffy list first before thinking about making it good.

>>54316435
As long as your compressor has a tank you're good on that. the next level painting guy says the iwata eclipse is good

>>54316003
im coming back into the game after 12 years. Going with Raptors chapter so i can have canon sensible marines

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>>54316420
>Looks, you fucking waacfag
>>54316425
>>54316437

Looks are exactly the reason I'm considering them, eyebeam brain monster is fucking awesome and I love it; if it was just a matter of that I'd be sold.

BUT I think the Sslyth look awesome as well, so they're neck and neck on the style front which means the numbers game is winning out, and as I don't know how things play out in the game these days, I'm here for opinions.

>>54316141
kinda, the chaos version can self repair in CC but the relic gets a better invulnerable save and can be repaired by a techmarine any time

>>54316457
>they're neck and neck on the style front
Except when you field four of the same monopose model.

>>54316457
You realize that it's a finecast monopose model right?

Newfag here, what were relics and what are they likely to be?

>>54316108
Mental retardation the post.
Please neck yourself.

>>54316470
>>54316476
Ah, fuck, I didn't realise.

Two Sslyth and two Medusae it is, thanks anons

>>54316477
Probably special war gear

>>54316470
>>54316476
>monopose
thats what modeling tools are for

>>54316477
>Newfag here, what were relics and what are they likely to be?
Special weapos or items which represent powerful and sacred possessions of the faction. One per army.

>>54316457
Unless you convert I wouldn't take four of the same. Maybe one Sslyth, one Medusa and two Lhameans? Nice variety, snake tanks all the things, and you have a callback to Vect's pimp wagon with the Lhameans.

>>54316485
Or one per detachment.

>>54316485
One relic for entire army or a only one of its kind and you can take more?

>>54316480
4 of the same 2 monopose models next to each other still looks kinda ugly. That's why there are 4 different options for the Archon bodyguard IIRC.

>>54316484
Isn't that one of the few non SoB metal models?

I mean you can work with metal, but I rather putt a dildo up my ass than work with metal again.

>>54316502
>>54316505
One of each per army per Angels of Death codex, dunno about other factions

>>54316485
>>54316502
>>54316505
New relic rules is that you cannot have more relic units of a single battlefield role than you do non-relic units. So if you take 6 boltgun devastators you can take 6 relic units. Yes, it's retardef

>>54316493
I'm going for a minimal bare skin, helmets only, Kabal only set up to start with for this force, so that ruled the Lhameans out. I'm not considering the Sslyth as bare skin, obviously.

Lhameans will probably get added somewhere down the line though, even if its just a decorative pimped out Raider centrepiece.

>>54316526
Wait fuck I thought you mean Forgeworld relic units. Nevermind.

>>54316526
Where are these rules from? We were talking about 7th

>>54316505
don't know yet but it'll probably be one per detachment and no duplicates

>>54316526
different kind of relic, talking about war gear in this instance

>>54315549
It means they're not *quite* as fucked when they are -3ld to Icon of Despair, Butcher Cannon, and Be'lakor combo.

>>54316517
pretty sure its finecast

>>54316514
Eh, having 2 and 2 monopose models doesn't bother me so much, especially as I'll try to make the paint jobs differentiate them a bit. And I don't care much for the Ur Ghul anyway.

I played back in the 2nd ed days so monopose isn't a big deal for me.

>>54316518
What codex?

I'm basing it off AoS.

>>54316570
The 7th ed Space Marines: Angels of Death codex supplement. Includes chapter tactics, warlord traits, relics and formations for a number of chapters

>>54315963
Sup, Alexis?

>>54316414
If you like some bitchin snakemen for your army, go ahead I guess. If wouldn't get any because I refuse to work with Finecast, but the models are awesome and happen to have great rules.

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P-Please is pic related a good 350 point investment ?
I'm new to IG and want to field something Speshul.

>>54316590
Who?

>>54316332
To purchase.

If you win a combat, as in you destroy the charged unit, do you still need to consolidate towards the nearest enemy?

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I really want to pick up a Guard army but I'm waiting for a new plastic Guard box, no Cadians, no thanks.

I threw something together

++ Battalion (CP +3) (Astra Militarum) [1498 Pts] ++

+ HQ +

>Lord Commissar [51 Pts]: Bolt Pistol
>Tempestor Prime [41 Pts]: Chainsword, Hot-Shot Laspistol

+ Elites +

>Bullgryns [168 Pts]: 4x Bullgryn, 4x Bullgryn Maul, 4x Slabshield
>Bullgryns [168 Pts]: 4x Bullgryn, 4x Bullgryn Maul, 4x Slabshield

+ Troops +

>Tempestus Scions [50 Pts]: Chainsword, 4x Hot-Shot Lasgun, Hot-Shot Laspistol, 5x Scions
>Tempestus Scions [50 Pts]: Chainsword, 4x Hot-Shot Lasgun, Hot-Shot Laspistol, 5x Scions
>Tempestus Scions [50 Pts]: Chainsword, 4x Hot-Shot Lasgun, Hot-Shot Laspistol, 5x Scions
>Tempestus Scions [50 Pts]: Chainsword, 4x Hot-Shot Lasgun, Hot-Shot Laspistol, 5x Scions

+ Heavy Support +

>Leman Russ Battle Tanks [180 Pts]: Battle Cannon - Heavy Bolter - Sponsons: 2x Heavy Bolter - Storm Bolter
>Leman Russ Battle Tanks [180 Pts]: Battle Cannon - Heavy Bolter - Sponsons: 2x Heavy Bolter - Storm Bolter

+ Flyer +

>Valkyries [168 Pts]: Heavy Bolter, Hellstrike Missiles, Multi-Laser, Valkyrie
>Valkyries [168 Pts]: Heavy Bolter, Hellstrike Missiles, Multi-Laser, Valkyrie

+ Dedicated Transport +

>Taurox [87 Pts]: 2x Autocannon, Storm Bolter
>Taurox [87 Pts]: 2x Autocannon, Storm Bolter


Something silly I threw together that looked like fun, Valkyries Bullgryn delivery system, any thoughts?

>>54315516
Cool, now im expecting BT tactics tto be +1A and advance plus charge.

>>54315963
wow sorry to hear that, have you tried using some kind of cream or something? Maybe you should see your doctor

>>54316622
>not taking heavy 20 for taurox

>>54316627
Probably precisely that, but the +1A only on the turn you charge.

I am in a bit och a pickle

I really want a leviathan or a imperial knight for my 2500 Dangels army but I can't decide.

Help /40kg/

>>54316614
Melee rules are odd. If you follow the steps you can consolidate regardless of winning.

>>54316607
>350 points for 2d6 missile lauchers on a block of metal
You could do worse, but a knight is prably a beter investment

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>>54316679
It's okay you don't need to deny it there's no need to be embarrassed.

>>54316697
Yeah it's a bit vague

>>54316679
Not really interesting, but frankly there is no reason for you to have that much of an interest in a sex organ that you neither have nor want to have sex with.
So kindly stop talking about cooches, real or modified, on the board for Traditional Games, in the thread for Warhammer 40.000.

>>54315963
> They also frequently leak puss because the body treats it as an open wound trying to heal.
No. Not they dont
also, do you know what pus actually is?

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Thoughts on my Plague Marines?

Worth drilling gun barrels at this stage? Seeing them now they seem kinda bad.

>>54316695
The leviathan can be part of the DA's special secret club

The Imperial Knight would never be more than a ally of convenience, valued for the assistance but always kept at arms length.

>>54316697
Nothing odd about that, you technically had the same in 7th but then it was called Pile In if you were in combat and Consolidate if you weren't.

>>54316697
>>54316712
Golly, maybe that's because Consolidate has nothing to do with winning anymore.
>You pile in 3"
>You attack
>You consolidate 3"
It works like that no matter how many models you killed or are still engaged with.

>>54315994
lmao thats not how power creep works, son

>>54316716
It's not really so much a sex organ than it is a mutilated sterile unusable abomination.

>>54316735
They're look good. Sure use a small drill bit

>>54316715
Your not sick anon, it's okay. Have you considered therapy? sometimes it helps people with issues like yours. Perhaps /lgbt/ could help you

>>54316721
not wishing to contradict you but he/she presumably has more experience with such things

>>54316748
Bit like you really

>>54316581
Oh. 7th. Irrelevent.

>>54316735
I like them. They're both grimy and vivid, which is a great contrast from the crisp, subdued scheme gw presents them with. I'd drop one more wash and a second set of highlights on them for more depth, but they look great already.

>>54316758
>not wishing to contradict you but he/she presumably has more experience with such things
Are you purposely being dumb and bad at reading? you better not be

>>54316735
No, if you drill them now you'll only ruin the paintjob on them. Maybe for the next unit you do.

Clean the colors around the visor of the middle guy up a bit, then base them and you're done. Good job.

If you're wondering how to base them, watch this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcPIG0TUeTo

>>54316773
>irrelevant [ftfy]
Original question:
>what were relics and what are they likely to be?
Tell me how that is not relevant.

>>54316766
>>54316758

>Neovaginal prolapse is a rare and distressing complication after male-to-female sexual reassignment surgery. We retrospectively analysed the prevalence of partial and total neo-vaginal prolapses after sexual reassignment surgery in our institute. During the years, two different techniques have been adopted with the aim of fixing the neovaginal cylinder. In the first, two absorbable sutures are placed at the top of the penoscrotal cylinder and fixed to the Denonvilliers fascia. In the second, two additional sutures are added from the posterior/midpoint of the flap to the prerectal fascia. We enrolled 282 consecutive transsexual patients. 65 (23.04%) out of the 282 were treated with the first technique and the following 217 (76.96%) with the last technique. In the first technique, 1 case (1.53%) of total prolapse and 7 cases (10.76%) of partial prolapse were observed, while in the other 217 patients treated with the second technique only 9 cases of partial prolapse were observed (4.14%) and no cases of total prolapse. All prolapses occurred within 6 months from the procedure. In our experience, the use of 4 stitches and a more proximal positioning of the sutures to fix the penoscrotal apex with the Denonvilliers fascia guarantees a lower risk of prolapse.
>https://www.hindawi.com/journals/bmri/2014/240761/

TL:DR
11% is hardly 'frequent'

>>54316796
i centainly did you

>>54316784
He's baiting but entertaining his clear anger is quite fun.

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Any body see this guy in the latest White Dwarf?

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>trannies

>>54316820
No, but I assume he's a primaris dev, yeah? Do you think he's saddled with plasma forever like the plasma guys already are or is that just one option, or is it a rapid fire plasma gun or something?

Fuckin' tau guns, god damnit

>away from the thread for less than an hour
>back to faggots ranting about faggot issues
Fuck off

>>54316827
>I was referring to pus being produced by the body due
>Pus
you keep using that word
That word does not mean what you think it means

>>54316740
Does the leviathan gain anything besides chapter keyword being DAngel? Like inner circle or deathwing?

>>54316836
I rather assume that's the 1-in-5 special weapon that Intercessors get.

>>54316836
Probably just a proper chadblaster kit. Same gun just with cables and a different stance .

>>54316852
Ah.

>>54316862
Then for god's sake see a doctor!

>>54315802
Sneaky:
>Units that don't move count as having the benefits of being in cover ubtil the start of your next turn. If already in cover nothing happens.

Beeky:
>When a unit falls back out of combat, they gain the benefits of cover until the start of your next turn.

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Playing against Tau for the first time in 8th edition and I'm a tad nervous as a Guardfag. Should I be as concerned as I am?

>>54316852
Seems about right. SuperChad Gun, ho!

>>54316914
depends on how many flamers he has on his suits

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>>54315516
Look, they Tau now.

>>54316928
I wonder if they'll get a Meltagun+1 and a Flamer+1 as well. What would those even look like?
>Slag Rifle: 18" Assault 1, S8, AP-5, D:D6, Melta rules
>Conflagrator: 12" Assault D6, S4, AP-1, D1, Hits automatically
That about right?

>>54316950
Psssh, even Imperial Guard can do it better with their Get Back In The Fight order.
Ultramarines superior tacticians, hah what a joke.

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Fellow Orky anons, how full of shit is the 1d4chan tactics article for 8E???

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Warhammer_40,000/Tactics/Orks(8E)

>>54316943
So assuming he doesn't just spam suits and flamers, think Ill be ok?

>>54316972
>1d4chan
There's your answer

>>54316950
what is this image about/from?

>>54316973
well, not just flamers, its simply a question of number of shots vs number of dudes, +/- who has first turn

>>54316967
>even Imperial Guard can do it better with their ... order.

>Space Marines are superior to unmodified humans.
>Space Marines Move and Advance for 6+D6"
>Regular humans Move and Advance for 6+D6" and then ordered to Move Move Move for another 6+D6" for a total of 12+2D6"

Face it, Humans > Primaris Marines > Marinelets

>>54316735

MOULD LINES

>>54316985
>doubting superior tactical acumen of glorious 1d4ddit contributors
*manta strikes behind you*
*unsheathes bonding knife*

Should I get a predator tank for my death guard now or wait for the new one to come out?

>>54317022
You could wait for the DG codex just in case, but I very much doubt we're gonna see new or legion/god specific predator tanks anytime soon.

>>54317020
>Not moldy lines cause nurgle

>>54317022
Wait for the new one. If it's not the anti-tank platform we all hope it to be, get a Las Predator.

>>54317022
>Should I get a predator tank for my death guard now or wait for the new one to come out?

I'd personally wait, but odds are good the new tank is more a Vindicator / Whirlwind type tank than a Predator.

Question for the Chaos players, specifically about Rhinos.

1) It says I can "take" a Combi-Weapon so I assume I don't have to switch the Combi-Bolter out to get it, right?
2) Would you turn your Rhino into a gun platform or keep it cheap? I'm thinking Combi-Bolter, Combi-Flamer and Havoc Launcher for the Rhino transporting by 2 Flamer+Combi-Flamer squad.

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>>54316989
A drawfag who used to make a hundred 40k memes.

>>54316735
>great paintjob
>mold lines
yeap youre a confirmed heretic

>>54317083
I'd keep it cheap because it's going to move and advance almost all the time, so it'll rarely shoot, and it won't be good at it. This will give you point for extra bodies and weapons that will be fired on most turns in optimal conditions.

>>54317115
Well, that's why I was thinking about the Combi-Flamer. The To Hit-penalty doesn't matter with a Flamer.
Also I play Death Guard, so the amount of shooting I can push into a squad of Plague Marines is rather limited.
But I can see your point about guns on a transport.

>>54315482

2 HBs on HWT cost you 24, 2 Lascannons 48, they have 4W at T3 with 5+ save.

So it's a matter of if the extra endurance is worth the loss of target selection.
I think the HB variant is, but I prefer to be able to target vehicles clearly.

Chapter Tactics confirmed for successors on Twitch

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>tell someone you're into warhammer
>"oh, that's the warcraft rip-off, right?"
mfw

Captains upgrade into Chapter Master for 3CP

>>54315516
This is... nice actually. Makes you less afraid to charge after shooting your Flamers because you can still fall back and shoot the turn after. Not really what I expected of Ultramarines, but on the other hand, it basically is ATSKNF translated literally so it works.

Now I'm curious about the rest.

>>54317104
How do I remove mould lines? I just started with Dark Imperium and these were my second set of models after my poxwalkers.

>>54316517
You might even like the dildo in the ass, compared to converting metal at least
No homo

>>54317169
This is why I automatically hate Warcraft and will never take it serious. Because it ripped off everything of Warhammers, and made it Saturday morning cartoony, and yet normies think its apex fantasy and that Warhammer ripped it off