Paizo Games General /pgg/

>>54234501
Gotta have hard light holograms. Oh, and I want it to have a nice swimming pool!

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When are we splitting back up into /pfg/ and /sfg/?

>>54234501
Leave piggy piggy

Should a group of goblins be wary of bigger goblinoids? On one hand they are also green, on the other I think encounters usually end with one side being slaves.

>>54234501
A red-headed, curvy fembot who is there to ensure the ship runs smoothly

>>54234501
A cloaking device, spinal laser cannons and a pleasant AI to keep everything running shipshape.

>>54234643
Does she have an adorable Scottish accent?

>>54234627

Why would they not be wary of bigger goblinoids? Goblinoids are utter bastards when they're small, making them bigger just makes things worse.

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>>54234501
>A design system that actually works
>Stats that actually allow use at mid-high levels rather than being completely upended by "lol high level spells".
>The ability for it to be an actual character

And obviously it's not even sci-fi if you can't fire beams significantly larger than your own ship. That's just obvious.

So Iron Gods has over a dozen apps now, is that enough to start speculating at party compositions? Or shipping??

>>54234613
Not soon enough. I guess it's not that bad, though. I'm just grumpy about it because I'm not keeping up with Starfinder, probably.

>>54234627
Yes, absolutely yes. Slaves is one possibility, food is another. There is no honor among thieves and even less among goblinoids.

Also... Am I the only one that things of goblins as coming in several colors, kind of like kobolds? Red, green, yellow, even the occasional cyan... Maybe it's because I use to read that crappy Goblins webcomic.

>>54234501
>>54234501
Fast travel through a hell dimension.

Currently open games
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/80257/wrath-of-the-righteous (Closes in 2 days)
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/82673/iron-gods (Closes in 3 weeks)
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/82996/from-the-other-end-of-heaven (Closes in 3 weeks)
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/82997/youre-the-village-now (Closes in 6 days)

>>54234700
Yes

and a flamethrower

>>54234727
Don't do this "APPZ APPZ APPZ" thing man. Fuck off.

>>54234727

No most aren't done and several are not even serious

>>54234727
>So Iron Gods has over a dozen apps now, is that enough to start speculating at party compositions? Or shipping??
But hey, you're right, it's the starfinder talk that's ruining the thread. Fuck off.

>>54234762
I'm talking about other things too, so what's it matter? Tell me about goblins and what color they should be.

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>>54234501

Cargo space, possibly even enough for fighter craft. Maybe some false bulkheads, and a shitton of hidden compartments from which a crew member might retrieve a variety of holdout weapons.

Being ugly enough to deter thieves is a plus.

>>54234757
Please no

>>54234787
Dude, you straight up asked for shipping. How is that /not/ cancerous? It doesn't matter if you discuss other things, people won't continue your dual topics in all of their posts. So just fuck off with the "MUH APPZ" bullshit.

>>54234857
Alright, sure, but I STILL want to talk about goblins, damn it. Could different colors indicate adaptations to different environments, ala white "snow goblins" and green "forest goblins" and red "cave goblins"? Or do you think it'd be better if it represented some kind of hierarchy, like red goblins are stronger than white goblins are stronger than green goblins?

>>54234822
What, you don't like girls with high capacity fuel cells and extra thermal plating? C'mon, man, it's 2017

>>54234755
>you're the village now
>restrictive rules
>'you're commoners guys haha i'm original'

>>54234755
>Play as a village
>You lose when the village is gone
does this mean you respawn with your own NPCs?

>>54234501
Impractical massive butterfly wings that are actually used for ramming people.

>>54234945
>restrictive rules
I mean, the point buy is on the low end and it's a low level start, but I don't see how that's supposed to be "restrictive rules" unless you're so completely addicted to PoW that you can't consider playing without it. The only restriction is basically "you can't start as a lv3 wizard", if I read it correctly.

>>54235001
I thought it was "you can't play as a level 3 wizard period." You can only take two levels of Wiz.

With so many options in Pathfinder released today do you guys think we are burdened by choice? Or do you guys think that because people mostly want to be optimized, we are just provided "false" choices?

>>54235179
The latter. Once you know how to navigate the minefield that is pathfinder, you realize that there's not too many actual options. Most options just add a different flavor to the same die rolls.

>>54235179

I'm honestly surprise at how many options from the early books are so insanely strong. I find my characters just never have room for weird stuff.

>>54235177
>>54235001
Going through the app rules, I realize this was worded confusingly. I've changed it to "cannot START at a level..." etc.

>>54235179
Inflation is a thing and most of the feats are too situational or there just for flavor so you never see them in action. Consider the Swordlord for one: If there's ever anything to do with Brevoy at high level there will be swordlords all over the place, but you will never see it outside of that except for a very VERY specific build or with a player who takes fluff always over mechanical superiority. You know, nobody who frequents /pfg/.

Is Linnorm game even still a possibility now? Was he just playing with our hearts?

>>54235250
>Consider the Swordlord for one
>a very VERY specific build or with a player who takes fluff always over mechanical superiority

A smart player plays literally anything else besides the "official" sword lord class stuff, because he knows that stuff sucks hot shit. He just hands whatever he's actually playing a dueling sword/longsword and says "yo guys I'm playing a character who is/wants to be a sword lord in the setting"

I wish Paizo would just release a V2 of Pathfinder and fix all the garbage. Just swallow their pride and say "Listen we know we were being ridiculous with our garbage errata."

Is there a Charisma based witch?

>>54235313
Pretty sure that's literally what they're trying to do with Starfinder, bro.

>>54235339
Seducer Witch, and it's pretty good. and lewd

>>54235298
My point proven. Not that I am claiming stormwind fallacy, but there are people who take roleplaying over mechanical superiority and can't say that they are a swordlord without the PRC no matter how bad it is.

>>54235360
But I don't want to be lewd, one of the players is 13

>>54234755
Don't forget!
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/82718/kings-gambit (Closes in 10 hours)

>>54235380
Best hope you take several IRL years before the campaign gets to lv8 then

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Did your favorite Deity make the second Cut?

http://paizo.com/paizo/blog/v5748dyo5ljy5?Gods-of-Starfinder-Part-Two


Gotta admit, I really like Ibra. Hope they do more with it.

>>54235226
>>54235179

I feel this burden also. There are sone interesting feats or chain feats like magical tails or the possesed hand chain. Super interesting options but out weighed by more optimal choices.

This is why I love the optional background skills rules. It enables you to put points in fluff things like proffession, perform, or craft. Most of the time people put points into skills that they need to survive the adventuring day.

It almost makes me think that they need to do something similar with feats. Enable you to have slots for "background" or fluff feats.

>>54235436
I love that the pirate deity literally stole her current influence.

>>54235436
>still no papa asmo

>>54235380
Refluff the sex parts with "a friendly cuddle or hug or deep conversation" or some bullshit. I mean, abilities that interact with people you last slept with in the last 24 hours? To lewd for me.

>>54235380
Give 13 year olds some credit
They know what sex is.

>>54235462

I agree background skills are great. It's bizarre the Iron Gods game isn't using them. Just move knowledge engineering out of background skills.

Is it possible to jump/dash/move forward, do a couple of melee attacks, and then jump/dash/move backwards in a single round of combat?

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>summoner tries to save our monk from the area of a spell's ongoing effect by rushing in, grabbing him and casting dimension door out
>the target square was occupied by an invisible enemy
>they have to get teleported to a random place somewhere in the 3D space in a 20ft radius
>gm rolls for where to put them
>they end up back in the spell's area

>>54235436
An LE god that is not a cartoonish narcissist or giggling maniac who gathers a following just having a single meme picture? Has Paizo dropped the ball and, you know, actually put some thought into writing their stuff?

>>54235469
Dealing with others wanting to steal it sounds like it would make a good ADventure Path, or at least a gag that gets mentioned in all the other ones.

>>54235474
All the previous deities, except for a few who were explicitly killed, are still around. It could be that Asmo downsized his operation to make it more lean and fit before staging a takeover.

How do you argue against someone's completely autistic hate of 'intrigue'?

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Who's stoaked about the Mechanic? I look forward to seeing if there are archetypes that allow you to do stuff like making the mechanics drone a backpack to do pic related or more.

>>54235436
>AbadarCorp
Hooray, more flanderization of a previously cool god

Ibra is really cool though. I could see some good character concepts coming from its ideology

>>54235360
Use companion to the lonely rules and say that the lewd stuff is just handholding or cuddling

>>54235625
By blocking a certain space frog's posts on a certain internet chat client.

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>>54235567
They just copied a meme picture.

In the Soldier Iconic's backstory, I did like that they basically left the pacifists alone. Yeah, they "conquered" the world, but now they have to run it and basically leave them be.

>>54235631
Didn't you read the Mechanic post? They literally call that out as something you WILL do. You can go Iron Man with your drone at higher levels.

>>54235632
What did you like about that deity before?

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>>54235680

Choosing between that and the Exocortex is going to be difficult I feel but I suppose when in doubt always go Iron Man.

>>54235680
Abadar is awesome in pf.
His church actually provides a really necessary service to the community in banking, but if his followers have formed a corporation to worship him in Starfinder, then I have absolutely no doubt that Paizo will play them off as greedy bastards who only care about coin.

How do fractional saves work with say 3 levels of a slow fort save and 7 levels of a fast fort save?

>>54235780
Have hope, Anon. Hope like Abadar's money-grubbing faithful have. You know though, if Abadar's First Vault contains a perfect copy of everything that can be owned, with the advent of Starfinder do you think his vault contains asteroids now? Planets? Stars, even?

>>54235567
>who gathers a following just having a single meme picture

Which meme picture is this?

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>>54235898
Which one do you think?

>>54235436

Ibra looks cool. But I'm only really interested in seeing Erastil or Kurgess, and something tells me they're not going to make the next cut either.

>>54235898
He probably means Kurgess and the picture of his pants with a bulge.

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>>54235924

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Can I ask about 3.5e here?

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>>54235973

>>54235973
What do you need?

>>54235916
FUCK ERASTIL AND FUCK WHITE PEOPLE.

>>54236073
>Erastil fags are also /pol/faggots
Keeps confirming what I already knew.

Lamastsu wasn't on the list. I would include her anyways because how else am I going to Resident Evil in Starfinder?

>>54236133
People could just be interested in unethical genetic experimentation. The gods don't need to be behind every single fucking aspect of the setting.

>>54236133
>>54236142
Hermea?

>unethical

Well, Hermea gone wrong, anyway. Cheliax invades or something.

>>54236142

I know, which would make for interesting conflicts between cults and non cults who do this sort of stuff that and I wouldn't make them prolific either like the a few members of the board of some pharmaceutical company are nasty fucks who are into fucking monsters and fell into the cult of lamastu but are ordered to try and use their power and influence to either bring into the fold or crush the opposition who are doing similar stuff

Just a reminder that Shelyn approves of pedophiles, necrophiles and beastiality. Shelyn is Neutral Evil just like her brother!

>All this hate on Shelyn and Erastil
These people need to hug their family.

Does your character wear a hat? Does he/she uses a helmet?

>>54236102
Duh, retard

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>>54236406

Why would you not use a helmet?

>>54236406
It's part of being an inquisitor to wear a giant hat, no?

>>54234755
>50PB
Retard confirmed.

>>54235789
It's 7*0.5 + 3*1/3 + 2(base)= 6.5 rounded down to 6.

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>>54236406
Hat of Greater Disguise made to look like hair ribbons

>>54236491
It's Kawase, we already knew this. This has more stupid houserule shit to put StarToad to shame.

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Why are you guys so triggered by Starfinder content? It's new and shiny and doesn't warrant it's own general to clog up space on the board. Besides, there is absolutely nothing stopping you from discussing PF and ignoring SF content.

>>54236491
>>54236603
I didn't understand half the modifications, and I couldn't even find what classes and materials are allowed.

>>54235436
I'm glad Urgathoa is still a major deity but I'm personally more intrigued by the black hole god from the first part, it sounds like they fit my aesthetic for villains quite nicely.

>>54236636
The worst part is people are going to unironically apply to this just like people unironically apply to Startoad games because they're so thirsty to actually get into a game.

>>54236682
When can I have my high-level Dahak campaign?

>>54236634
It's just one or two people.

Most of this thread has been good because we are discussing SF and PF stuff. I only worry when people start discussing E-Celebs.


NOW, tell me what you are most looking forward to in Starfinder

>>54236732

I kind of want to see what they do with the Solarian.

>>54236732
I am most looking forward to it being released to /sfg/ can split off and we can go back to /pfg/.

How would a pirate dress in the 15th to 16th centuries?

>>54234755
>Kawase game

Holy shit

>>54236732
I want to see how they re-balance the age-old martial vs. caster dynamic since Fighter equivalents are going to be rocking fucking copyright-friendly lightsabers and rocket launchers. Also, ship-to-ship combat. It looks like it's going to focused on ships that are size-appropriate for four to six PCs to run, but I'm hoping for rules for Star Destroyer-tier vessels.

>>54236784
(You)

>>54236603
Nah, original Pathfinder just isn't 'good enough' for him.

>>54236694
Never, because there's not enough lore about draconic deities in Pathfinder to build a campaign off of.

>>54236859
All you need to know is Dahak is a big bad dragon, and he wants to burn the world!

>Urgathoa made the cut

Fuck Pharasma

>>54236832
Less ruffle, more sleek silk for the swashbuckling types. Bare chested or leather vested with loose pants for more "yar harr we be rapin' 'n blunderin' and they both be inside ye wife's arse, yarharhar" types.

>>54236926
>blunderin' inside the wife's arse

>>54236885
I need to know more than that dangit! The only other thing we know about him is that he's a momma's boy and is always on the run from his dad, who wants to give him a good smacking.

>>54236957
>I need to know more than that dangit!

Nu uh! What more do you need to know? The favorite color of the world-ending dragon? How much he fancies Urgathoa, or reviles Iomedae? Puh-lease! Your friendly neighborhood DM could come up with that stuff if it needs to be discovered, otherwise he's just the end-end-end-game boss that must be overcome.

>>54236912

I think Keskodai is a worshipper of Pharasma

>>54236760
I've got a friend who has already called dibs on the !Jedi.

>>54236957
I would like to know more about this Dahak character.

>>54236852
Spontaneous Casters only in core should help with that, but I think Science Fantasy/Fiction lends itself better to that stuff.

Plus, like you mentioned, weapons can improve the balance somewhat. Fly isn't that strong anymore, even in a white room battle, if the Gnoll can have a Missile Launcher or a group of Kobolds armed with AR!15s

54236784
I have to ask, why do you want them to separate? They're going to share a lot of stuff, in this thread we are talking about the same deities, so why do you want them separate?

I'm sure many people would appreciate a Science RPG general, combine Star Wars, Serenity, Star Trek, Diaspora, and Starfinder in one thread to open up more space and pool resources, but I don't think that is your ideal.

>>54237023
>>54237023
>How much he fancies Urgathoa, or reviles Iomedae?
>fancies Urgathoa

This sounds kinda cute

>>54237034
Keskodai is a little bitch

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>>54236852
I ran the numbers a little while ago. A fully kitted out Blaster Sorcerer will be able to toss out 107.5 damage fireballs (on average) 3/day, assuming they have a lesser rod of maximize and the Empower Spell metamagic feat.

A soldier with the 7d8 laser gun, on the other hand? He gets his class level to damage with longarms and a third attack by level 10, meaning he does 21d8+30 damage if he hits with all three per turn, an average of 124.5 damage. It's only single shot, but assuming the gun has a 20 round magazine he can do it 6.66 times per day... and then he reloads.

The trick here is that casters I believe are meant to fill other niches than ending encounters. Technomancers appear to be focused on debuffs and some buffs, with Mystics focus on team support.

>>54237266
>It's only single shot
Single target, I mean.

>>54237266
As it should be. Great job to the devs if this is how it works.

>>54237038
Dahak is the punk kid of Apsu (good god of Dragons) and Tiamat (you should know about her already) that invented evil dragons for the purpose of hunting them like a child burning ants with a magnifying glass. Apsu didn't like this and went after Dahak but was too whipped by his sister/wife/whatever Tiamat that when she told him to stop he stopped, but the lore right now is that he's looking for an opportunity to go behind her back and kill Dahak or otherwise stop him from being such an emo brat.

>>54237140
That does sound kind of cute tho, I mean who doesn't fancy Urgathoea?

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>>54237281
The soldier is also going to have easier access to heavy armor and power armor (A friend who couldn't say more because of NDA told me that power armor takes a feat to use, and it makes sense that that would require heavy armor proficiency) and probably personal forcefields as well. Chances are they'll be absolute gods when it comes to damage since they'll be the only class with easy access to heavy weapons and damage boosters, and be exceedingly tanky due to the armor.

I like this a lot. It makes soldiers a force to be reckoned with on the battlefield, but less ridiculous out of combat (though they won't be totally useless due to actually having fucking skill points). That's perfect to me.

What are people's opinions of the Iron Tortoise and Eternal Guardian disciplines?

>>54237299
People who are not necrophiles? You know, mentally stable people who you don't actively lock in asylums?

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>>54236634
People are triggered by SF content? Since when?

>>54237366
Since forever. Just like how somebody will get triggered by that gif in a few

>>54237333
Trips confirmed for losers and people who aren't nearly adventurous enough.

I can't find helmets on PFSRD or anywhere else, are they just nonexistant in pathfinder aside from "special" helmets or as part of armor? How do I stat a simple helmet?

>>54234755
>https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/82996/from-the-other-end-of-heaven (Closes in 3 weeks)
Wtf am I suppose to do with all those rules

what effect should tear gas have? Dazzled, blinded, sickened, nauseated, or the smoke mephit breath weapon?

>>54237412
Helms come with armor suits. I think there is a customize thing in the armory book that has them though.

>>54237366
Fuck off with that shitty gif.

>>54237412
It's assumed that armor comes with an appropriate helmet which is factored into the armor's stats.

>>54237436
Blinded and sickened, nauseated from extended exposure.

>>54237366
Told ya >>54237452

I've got 73 gold to spend, do I just keep it as pocket change now?

>>54237469
>>54237439
that's bullshit
what if I want JUST the helmet?

>>54237299
This makes the plot perfect! Dahak is coming to the Prime Material, Chromatics are going full desolation mode to stock up on wealth for the coming apocalypse, and the party are tasked by Apsu to kill his wife's son!

>>54237366
>>54237379
>>54237452
ghost is a good song

>>54237494
It is and that video is decently animated, but despite their own penchant for garish colours and lesbians /pfg/ is still in 4chan and they will assume any character design that looks like Donut Steel is from tumblr and therefore shit.

>>54236642
I'm just pissed that black holes are now forever associated with negative energy and evil. If only because it doesn't make any sense to me, especially since it now means that GRAVITY is apparently somehow associated with pure evil. That doesn't sit well with me.

I'm going to start in a 25 point buy 5th level game, I want to go Magus, should I go Dex magus or Str magus?

>>54237472
Seems a bit too op. Maybe it should be blinded or sickened with a fortitude save.

>>54237528
Shouldn't black holes be seen as the Ultimate Good of the Universe, as they preserve matter and store information on their Event Horizons for trillions of years?

Black Holes are the greatest defense against entropy!

>>54237530
Shocking Grasp magus, dex-based.

>>54237333
I had a necromancer that worshipped Urgathoa who was not a necrophile, she just acknowledged Urgathoa as the patron of her art and also appreciated the idea of love after life and life after love.

>>54237418
Make a character, obviously. Or don't, if it's not your thing. But don't bitch about it either way.

>>54237480
Buy a 73 gp dildo.

>>54237528
That's not even new, we've known that most stars have portals connecting to the positive energy plane in their core and that the negative energy plane is full of black holes since... forever. I think that was info that was provided in the The Great Beyond, which is a fuckold setting lore book.

>>54237530
Go STR Magus just to prove the people that say Magi have to go DEX wrong.

>>54237528
It's natural that people would view a sphere/oblate spheroid/torus of pure gluttony and darkness as evil I think. Even before that stars are basically made of what could be called hellfire

>>54237528
Let's be fair Anon, Black Holes really weren't going to be seen as good guys. For every Andromeda ship that gets pulled out of one, 50 billion Bido are likely to come out of one. They don't have a good track record.

>>54237537
I can't wait for the inevitable complaints about them. Those Barbarian players who insist on face rushing everything getting locked down with all the XCOM2 grenades will be fun stories.

>>54237563
They don't preserve matter and information anon, they destroy them completely. Fermion number isn't conserved, nor is color or flavor charge. I suppose since they decrease the amount of information in the universe you could say they still hold back entropy, but even then I wouldn't call them good

>>54237563
It's more that Gravity is apparently inherently evil in pathfinder thanks to what it's associated with, and that's just irks me quite a bit, because an inherent law of reality shouldn't be treated that way.

>>54237568
>Buy a 73 gp dildo.
would only cost 50 gp to get a masterwork dildo, was thinking about it though. Not sure there's going to be an oppurtunity in WotR to be a whore though.

so, what happens if you cast animate dead on a black hole? Can you get a zombie/skeleton star?

>>54237317
How long will it be before Wizard players complain about capable Soldiers? I'm waiting for the inevitable down conversion, bringing them to PF

What happens when an Avowed's Patron dies?

>>54237655
>>54237655
Depends on the metaphysics of the setting. Most likely they are immune to magic because you can't actually approach a black hole sucessfully due to time dialation

>>54237568
>Go STR Magus just to prove the people that say Magi have to go DEX wrong.
It's not that you "have to go dex", it's that dex is overall better supported and less MAD.

>>54237655
That's too cool for Paizo, so no. Good idea though.

>>54237629
Gravity is the enemy of mass! Gravity hates fat people!

>>54237681
Maybe its only undead in its own frame of reference.

>>54237651
>Not sure there's going to be an oppurtunity in WotR to be a whore though.
Anon, there's an *entire army* of crusaders deep in demon infested territory. A whore who's guaranteed not to be a demon in disguise is a godsend.

>>54237528
>>54237629
Gravity is a LAW. It is a means by which the universe RESTRICTS your FREEDOM. JJ could never allow such an unyielding force to be anything but EVIL.

muffled "but negative energy isn't evil" in the distance

>>54237576
Are torus-shaped event horizons actually a thing? How?

>>54237621
The preserve mass and angular velocity, at the least, and have heard theories about vibrations in the surface of the event horizon (as much as the event horizon can be considered a real surface) that result from matter passing through it being something that retains the information that was otherwise lost to the black hole.

>>54237651
23 GP of decoration, then. You can always make an item more expensive by just saying it's a really fancy one.

>>54237655
Good luck getting close enough to the black hole to cast the spell.

>>54237703
True, I don't think the's a big enough size category. Colossal+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

>>54236852
Well, if it's anything like the pathfinder tech, those lightsabers are double-resisted, run out of power in minutes, and it only takes like a third level spell to completely negate it and a few other items on the person all at once.

>>54237651
Think of the dildo as a way to pound out some stress without the hassle of another person.

>>54237714
This too, whores are ubiquitous to an army and few will need some guilt-free fucking as a Crusader in the Abyss.

>>54237714
If I'm gunna be a whore, I want it to be more than just "oh by the way I'm fucking half the army since I"m immune to disease anyways"

Would any of the named NPCs be the kind to hire an expensive whore?

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Is there a way for PF martial classes to gain Maneuvers from PoW? Specifically for an anti-paladin to gain Black Seraph stances and maneuvers.

>>54237266
at three people caught in a fireball, that's 322.5 damage per fireball.

>>54237768
Martial training feats

>>54237776
Good thing you have Zarya and Orisa around to group them up for you.

>>54237768
Martial Training feats are an option. Also, Rory made an initiating antipaladin archetype: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pl00apM9VDmhmLQZxzYJMmY6QLrLFhap3vH7bXnKtgg/edit?usp=sharing

>>54237732
>>54237681
You could probably use a Wish or Miracle spell to circumvent the range restriction, or failing that just find a much smaller black hole, one that's either been reduced sufficiently by Hawking radiation or one that was never a stellar black hole to begin with- be wary of the people building the LHC under Galt! They could be hidden necromancers with a secret agenda.

Aside from that, incorporeal creatures ignore gravity, don't they? What's to stop one from flying in and out of a black hole as they please, other than horrific nightmare abominations or theoretical and implausible firewalls beneath the event horizon?

>>54237766
Two of the named NPCs are lesbian lovers, two of them are homosexual lovers, one is a tired old hag and another is a tired old Elf.

Maybe the FUCKING WHITE MALE NOBLE that mansplains? Otherwise, you could be the expensive whore of a party member, though you'd have to find one of the men assuming you're making a girl who focuses on them.

>>54237723
They're called kerr black holes. They happen when the angular momentum is extremely high, causing their ring- shaped singularity to widen. Around their edge, above their event horizonef they have a second kind of even horizon called the ergosphere where youre slingshotted around ftl. So far they've only been described theoretically, but if we're going to discover time travel or an AU they're probably are best chance macroscopically speaking, though we'll probably get our hands on a nordstrom black hole (electrically charged) first

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>>54237786
>>54237802
Martial Training. Thank you kindly. I will look up the AT as well. Maybe I can swing it.

>>54237824
are the lesbians hot?

>>54237844
No, Irabeth is fugly and Anevia's plain.

>>54237841
The archetype I linked nets you Black Seraph, Primal Fury, and Cursed Razor. So, you'll have plenty to work with.

>>54237868
I dont see Aura of Cowardice though. That is what I am really after.

>>54237651
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>>54237898
The archetype keeps Aura of Cowardice. You're in the clear.

>>54237651
Which character is yours?

There's a lot of fun iron gods apps!

>>54237990
Which ones are your favorites?

>>54237990
I don't feel too strongly about any of them

>>54237951
Oh I see how it works now. Neato

>>54238006
I like Broodie's Kobold and Sweagle's Armorgirl best out of the current lot

>>54237990

I've been learning a lot about Numeria as I write mine.

>>54238038
I like them too.

>>54238038

So you posted all of this just to gargle celeb balls?

>>54238038
ok cabal

>>54238061
>someone asks me who i like best and I respond

There's plenty of other good apps too, those are just the ones I like best.

>>54238006
The new kobold and ANothony's Kazulki are nice, can't say if they're my faves though because I've only skimmed a few apps and haven't fully read the others.

Shadilah the Bloodblade is obviously the best though.

>>54237766
There's a few named NPCs who might. The merchant asshole would probably be down to finance a whore, the crestfallen warrior would probably benefit from a good "cheering up" (as would his compatriots), plus all the Paladin LG dickings you can handle and then some.

>>54238075
Fuck off with your obvious self-shill.

>>54238075

Just saying, it looks shifty to have Broodie's app go up and 30 minutes later people are praising it. Even if you're not just jerking him off, considering the environment of the thread it might be a good idea to hold off on those kind of comments. Otherwise >>54238114

>>54238092
Who's the crestfallen warrior?

>>54238120
Fair point.

>>54238130
Arles Jhestander in book 2, the soldier who gets so hopeless at the attempt to march through the worldwound that he becomes an ex-paladin and it starts to infect the rest of the army.

Reminder that kobolds are a good. Gnolls are a bad.

>>54238168
WotR is a pretty decent campaign that just has so many goddamn missteps

>>54238217
Just facts mang

>>54238168
>>54238220
I wish someone ran this campaign, I've always wanted to play it.

>>54238006
I don't like this question. Which apps aren't quite there and how would you improve them? What group would have the best party composition, mechanically and alignment-wise? Those are better questions, they make better discussion.

>>54238217

I am not sharing my blankets with a kobold. Stop asking.

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I just can't wait somebody who gets into Iron Gods to come whine about the AP when they get repeatedly forced to retreat or get killed so easily even though they get a massively overpowered start as compared to what IG assumes your party composition is.

>>54238267
Is that game still recruiting, or did it end?

>>54238329
Someone GOOD running the campaign, anon. I like the CharGen but not the DM.

>>54238301

Most of the apps aren't completed. And frankly there are just not that many of them. Considering scheduling there likely is not even a single full party yet. I think discussion is a bit preemptive.

>>54238340
muh ladyknights dur de hur

>>54238301
Aha! Yes this I want to answer too

Jaden's app would be instantly improved if it didn't start with some 'woe is me' whining about how they won't get in. I didn't read anymore beyond that.

Rashin is overwritten, too much backstory, WAY too much personality, the character just has a lot going on thats not particularly interesting .

Luthara is ok, but I find Amnesiac stories very cliched and the personality of impulsive and angry, aka a hothead, feels to obvious

Kawase's app is a literal donut steel that presumes way too much about the setting and gives the character too much import, it just doesn't fit.

Conall Cernach is too much of a Cu Chulainn, he needs some original bits to his story, and being overly obsessed with Baine kind of robs the character of a larger reason to be in the campaign.

>>54237395
This. Urgathoa is one of the only deities that believes in fun.

How reasonable is this chargen?
>25 PB
>Feat tax rules
>DSP/SoP is allowed, but no fullcasters/full manifesters/full initiators.
>single-classed

>that newest Iron God's app
>first person gaia tier cringe
>a Kobold of all things is accepted into Torch and taught by a Wizard for no reason
>a Kobold somehow goes to Starfall or otherwise approaches a Technic League agent, who is most likely incognito, with an advanced piece of tech.
>she's just laughed at as opposed to immediately killed and having her invention taken along with all the advanced tech she has (like that recording device)

>>54238360
I could excuse the ladyknights obsession if there wasn't a flagrant disregard for the setting fluff or even cosmology in his other posts. That's a huge red flag for me.

>>54238425
>>54237395
Your mothers must be very proud of you.

>>54238456
Fine

>>54238456
So reasonable that's practically the standard around here.

>>54237714
>not playing as a Devil in Disguise

>>54238168
>The first white male Crusader you encounter is a lily-livered loser

>>54238487
>devil in disguise
Anon, please, there's so much more potential here.
>not going into the heritor knight prestige class
>not looking just like iomedae as a righteous whore for her army

>>54238523
the white man cannot be trusted anon, they're all cowards, evil, or greedy.

>>54238482
>25pb
>As strong as characters who have sold their souls, bodies and whatnot to higher powers to be that strong without themselves doing so
>Reasonable

>>54238461
In their defense, the contruct rider's construct is basically a really shitty golem, far inferior to the robots that litter Numeria.

>>54237824
>Two of the named NPCs are lesbian lovers, two of them are homosexual lovers
And people wonder why I don't like playing modules.

>>54233993
Replying to the anon that replied last thread (because I had to head out before the thread died) thanks for the advice! Improved Initiative was definitely one I was thinking of grabbing, but I was debating whether or not to wait until 7th or 13th level to grab it since it's a bloodline feat. Suppose sooner is better, and I can just swap a feat for a bloodline mutation if there's nothing on the list I want by then (Empower Spell and Improved Initiative were the only ones that immediately jumped at me). Spell Penetration makes sense too, roughly when should I grab it? I don't think spell resistance comes up often in the early levels. And are there any feats that can raise save DCs besides Spell Focus and Greater Spell Focus?

And as for Rashin not having much motivation to leave, his main motivation is getting out there and finding his real father, though right now he's trying to find Khonnir first. But even without that, he's a curious halfling that loves to nerd-out over tech, I figure he'd have plenty of reason to head out of the city and explore with some people he trusts even if he wasn't looking for his father. Speaking of him nerding out over tech, that's gonna be awkward if any androids are in the party. Hope they don't mind him poking around and asking how they work.

>>54238569
>25PB
>Only way to make Monks viable
>Lets you make Fighters without making them durr retarded like you would have to in 20 or 15 PB
>Unreasonable

>>54238599
You hate gays so much that them being mentioned in fiction ruins it for you?

>>54238617
Then make fighters have 4 skill points like they should and give Monte Cook's design choices the finger. There, problem solved, now you don't have to play a character who has the some PB as somebody who has sold his soul to an outer god and you get the added benefit of having things challenge you instead of steamrolling everything by just laughing as they can't get through your +12 saves, DC 21 save or suck spells and +15 to hit by level 2.

>>54238530
That's a level 8 ability of a PrC you can only get into around level 3-5. By the time your girl is ready to make the rounds as the Goddess you'll be well into Book 4.

And by that time, you've got Arueshalae. A literal shapeshifting fuck-demon you can bone without worrying about her sucking anything more than your balls dry.

>>54238420
Yeah, admittedly, writing too much is a serious problem I have. I know brevity is the soul of wit, but sometimes I have a hard time keeping things short and simple. I may end up looking for ways to shorten up his backstory later, when I start looking it over and make edits.I'm Rashin's player, for reference.

>>54238723
Hey man, editing down your own writing is -hard-, but its one of the best things you can do.
Just read over it and think if what the sentence says is necessary, if it actually means anything, or if its just prose.

>>54238696
What the fuck even is this post kek
I hope to god this is bait

>>54238696
>who has the some PB as somebody who has sold his soul to an outer god
Why do you keep going back to this specific example? Did something happen. Point Buy implies nothing about the world and stuff like that is usually just paizo's way of giving some kind of context of a why they gave an NPC higher stats because acknowledging that things on 20 point buy doesn't pose a meaningful threat is hard.

>>54238632
I assume he's frustrated that, although the PCs are almost always going to be the white heterosexual male heroes of the story, he wanted some NPCs to help remind him that heterosexuality actually exists in the Worldwound.

>>54238470
I play an Undead Lord cleric in a session of Vengeance with my friends, his mother and all of his old village are dead due to a disease the good-aligned priests couldn't cure and the only reason he's alive is because an Urgathoean priest got past the quarantine zones and taught him how to achieve his goals by embracing undeath and having the mentality of "just because you're dead doesn't mean the party's over!"

His Undead Companion is the body of his brother, he just recently awakened and has a dry, monotone attitude.

>>54238470
>not wanting to fuck elf butts and snort halfling bone dust off of elf asses and dine in the finest elf flesh

considering how weak pf kobolds are, do you think dragonwrought is acceptable?

>>54238765
the Zethian Kobold from Worlds of Power basically fixes the race

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>>54238569
>>54238696
>of all the things he bitches about
>not even "muh overPoWered" or "muh finesse in feat tax overpowered durr"
>it's the fucking point-buy he bitches about

The bait has advanced to a new level, he's learning I tells ya!

>>54238632
No, I hate that Pazio salivates over dumb progressive ideologies and feels compeled to include every "poor opressed minority" in all their modulues like it's on a check-off list.

>>54238759
>Fuck elf butts
I can do that with Shelyn, Calistria, Arshea or just being myself.

>snort halfling bone dust
That doesn't sound like a good high

>dine in the finest elf flesh
I don't see the point? Most humanoid meat will probably taste vaguely similar to pork, and I must say my palette is more varied than variations of the humble pig.

is there a clown race or template?

>>54238696
>can't get through your saves

nigga a wizard or sorcerer at 25 PB is likely to have about the same spell DCs as the guy on 15 PB, but the guy on 25 PB likely didn't have to rock 7 Str and/or Cha to get to that point.

>>54238780
To be fair, James Jacobs and Amber Scott included those couples because a couple people on their forums threw a huge fit that there, "are too many heterosexual characters in your stories, and not nearly enough QUILTBAGs."

>>54238456
>no fullcasters/full manifesters/full initiators.
This isn't nearly as big of a magic bullet as people hope. And I'm honestly getting annoyed at seeing.

>>54238788
Shelyn is pure, vermin. You take that back!

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>>54238778
>>54238745
Well damn, usually the bait gets at least three serious replies before somebody realizes what I am doing.

>>54238813
You wanna finish that sentence anon?

>>54238752
There are two tiefling cultists that are in love in book 1 or do some flirting via notes. Something like that.

>>54238420
I'll build off your post.

>Jaden
I finished reading it and it's a fairly simple story of somebody searching for missing family. A fairly simply story isn't a bad thing, for such a low level character. I don't really like Chosen Ones, but that's personal preference so I'm not holding it against him. Decent, but nothing especially stand out about it.

>Rashin
I want to try to criticize the character and not the app, but there's waaay too much text here. It should be chucked into a pastebin, linked in the app alongside a more abridged backstory. Unfortunately, there definitely does feel like there's a lot going on here and that makes creating an abridged backstory hard. I'd recommend outright cutting some bits. Start with the personality section, personality never needs to be more than a paragraph long, TOPS.

>Luthaya
Feels a little weird with her backstory not actually tying into Numeria at all, but at least it's an interesting backstory. Biggest problem I see is that the character won't have much of a reason to stay in Numeria if/when she gets her memories back. Offers decent hooks for the DM to play with though, and has my favorite art out these five.

>Erecura
Okay, disclosing up front that I have a huge love for toying with the idea of what it means to have a soul and to be alive for sapient beings that possibly aren't. But I feel like there's a joke here I'm not getting, som reference I'm missing. Also, I really find it hard to believe this little robogirl with her monotone gibberish would scare thugs instead of just making them angrier.

>Conall
Concise and decent, I like this backstory. If it's a rip off of Cu Chulainn, I wouldn't know. Too close to falling into generic anime protag "kind boy who wants to befriend strangers but gets really angry if you hurt his friends" territory though, and I'd try to move away from that.

>>54238769
Tell me more

>>54238875
Kobolds in the Zethian Empire are identical to pathfinder kobolds with the following changes.
Ability Score Traits: +2 Dex, +2 Int, -2 Str
Years of selective breeding have left Zethian kobolds smarter and hardier than their common brethren.
Zethian kobolds lose the light sensitivity trait. Zethian kobolds gain the prehensile tail racial trait in addition to their other racial traits.

>>54238825
At least you didn't try to keep pretending.
Good on you, anon!

>>54238825
>someone is actually trying to pull a "I was merely pretending to be retarded."

>>54238736
Yeah, you're right. I'll admit, a lot of what I wrote was probably just prose, so I'll probably see if I can trim the fat sometime before apps close. Personality I'll certainly cut down on; Usually I have a hard time just describing a character's personality outside of a few basic traits (I usually have an -idea- what a character's like and how they act, but have a tough time actually sitting down and describing it), so I guess when I actually managed to think of a lot to say I got carried away. Besides how long his stuff is though, does Rashin's app look alright? Or at least, does the character itself look fun enough?

>>54238858
Erecura is basically a straight character rip off of an Overlord character, CZ2128 delta.

yeah.

>>54238790
Bon-Bon is that you?! Did you finally return from wherever you disapeared to?

>>54238948
The character looks ok, though I rather have a distaste for sorcerer blasters, but thats just me

>>54238819
Are you suggesting the gentle pounding of your Elven lover's derriere isn't pure?

>>54238968
>though I rather have a distaste for sorcerer blasters
Why?

>>54238926
We are all retarded here, Alice.

>>54238614
Oh, I'm glad you actually got to see that post! When that thread slide off the board without a reply, I was worried you might not have had a chance to see my reply.

>Improved Initiative was definitely one I was thinking of grabbing, but I was debating whether or not to wait until 7th or 13th level to grab it since it's a bloodline feat.

Sooner is better, I say. I'm a slut for init bonuses though.

>Spell Penetration makes sense too, roughly when should I grab it?
Honestly, I couldn't tell you. There are more low CR things than you might think that have CR, but it definitely isn't as common as it is at high levels and I don't know where it really transitions from rare to commonplace. There's a cheap(ish, 500 GP) item called Dweomer's Essence that gives you a +5 bonus to penetrate SR on a single spell- maybe you should try to carry some with you until you have time to take Spell Penetration, for situations when you might run into things with SR at lower levels.

>And are there any feats that can raise save DCs besides Spell Focus and Greater Spell Focus?
Elemental Focus and Greater Elemental Focus exist, they're exactly like Spell Focus except keyed to element instead of school. They stack with Spell Focus, too.

>>54238980
Yes! Such impure things have no place between True Lovers!

>>54238990
Just find them boring and I hate vancian blasting.

>>54238968
Yeah, I'm aware blasters aren't usually the best kind of spellcaster to play. But I don't play spellcasters often (at least, not arcane casters), and I thought chucking around electro-fireballs would be fun, so I went with it. If he wasn't a sorcerer, I'd probably have made him a bomb-focused alchemist.

>>54238991
Fair enough.

>>54239030
You should look into spheres for more fun electro-blasting

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Alright guys, I need minds more versed in Golarion/Inner Sea lore than I. What places are most likely to have Aberant influence and produce individuals of the Aberant sorcerer bloodline? Further, what kinds of aberants would most likely be found in or around such places?

Do any such places at all overlap with where skinwalkers can be found as well?

Also, I know Qlippoth would technically fall under the Abyssal bloodline, but what manner of activity do they get up to in the Inner Sea, and could one supposedly use Aberrant stuff for them instead of the usual Abyssal options?

>>54238723
>>54238736
I'm not professional writer, but I've heard from some before that sometimes the hardest part is that you write something and you love this part and think it sounds lovely and does a great job tying things together or showing some part of the narrative off in a non-jarring way that doesn't feel like exposition or it's just PERFECT foreshadowing... And the publisher/editor thinks it needs to be cut, for whatever reason. And you know what you gotta do? You gotta cut that section. It's your precious baby, but it's gotta go.

Sometimes, having a second or third opinion really helps with figuring out where or how to cut. Find somebody who can read the whole thing for you and tell you, sentence by sentence, "This is good" or "This needs to go". Find somebody like that and then you keep them, because they are your best friend as a writer.

>>54239093
Oh yeah, a good editor is god tier

>>54238948

One thing I'll say is coming to the table for an AP with a character who wields the element the iconic enemies of the AP are weak too, along with the feat and skills that allow you to interact with all the "mysterious" aspects of the AP may be a bit cheesy.

>>54239007
Yep, I saw it. Had to deal with IRL stuff so I wasn't able to respond till now, but I appreciate the advice! Think my next feat might be Improved Initiative then, since 5th level still won't have much for me in terms of blasting anyways.

>Elemental Focus stacks with Spell Focus
Oh shit, wasn't even aware of that. Definitely gonna grab that too then; With my bloodline arcana I should basically benefit from it on every blast Spell I use (unless whatever comes up has electricity resistance/immunity).

>>54239079
Never messed with Spheres before. Actually, is Spheres allowed? It said 1pp plus Dreamscarred was allowed, but I forget if Dreamscarred wrote it or not.

>>54239093
Hm. I think I might know someone who could help me with that, thanks for the suggestion.

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Don't hide it from me, /pgg/.

Have you been thinking about your character's darkest-timeline self? She's been thinking about you.

>>54239133
Spheres is allowed! You should look into the Electrokineticist elementalist, be a railgun!

>>54239141
I always think about those. It's an interesting exercise. Though a Brightest Timeline is fun too, even if it makes me sad.

>>54239133
>>54239149
Thankfully de to how incredibly fluff agnostic Spheres can be, as well as how easy it is to alter things with Traditions and Drawbacks, you can also be a certain scientific railgun!

>>54239128
Oh yeah, missed this. I'm actually not going in with an electro-blaster because of enemies having weakness to it, I just like the thought of a tech-nerd using electricity for his primary spell focus. I like to imagine him building stuff later in the campaign, using his spells to charge his machines and get them running. That, and I like the imagine of a halfling with goggles on his head throwing electro-fireballs at bands of techno-barbarians in the wastes.

>>54239149
Might give it a look; Never messed with Spheres before so it should be neat to check out.

>>54239141
I've got an Adventurer team in a friend's Pokémon campaign, but I do sometimes wonder if the situation changed and I was forced to use a Dark/Poison focused team due to circumstances

>>54239210

Right but when you show up to the game with cold based enemies and you say you didn't make your fire blaster because the enemies are weak to it? It's always going to be questionable.

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>>54239183
Brightest timeline, her first love is still alive...

>>54239141

Giant Oni Bandit lord and Sovereign over Sandpoint. Now called Onipoint.

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>>54239141
>Darkest Timeline

>>54239141
Dead, his skin flayed off by giants and used as a war banner

>>54239141
In his character's darkest timeline he would've never been able to get over his father neglecting him, joined up with her mother to exact petty revenge on people in the name of Calistria instead of being the reason she would turn her life around, his adopted daughter would die alone in the rain, his wife would have probably never have know him and he'd never have been there to save thousands of lives when an ancient evil would rise.

>>54239233
Brightest Timeline, she's happily married to a loving husband and expecting her fourth child.

>>54239223
I figure since the Technic League seems to be main antagonists for Iron Gods, there'll be plenty of non-robotic enemies too. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if a decent amount of non-robotic enemies have electricity resistance, given that there's lots of weapons and machines that deal it. If the GM thinks it's too cheesy though, I could probably figure out some way to tone it down a bit.

>>54237962
Sorry to drdge up a post from an hour and a half ago, but I feel asleep when the question was asked.

Maylay

>>54239081
Fuck, I am pissed that I had to kill her. I tried everything to make peaceful contact but it just doesn't work. I shouldn't have expected any different though.

Anyway, they would probably be most commonly found in the Darklands, especially the deeper you go. There's all sorts of weird, tentacly stuff down there. No idea about Skinwalkers.

And actually, Qlippoth are definitely NOT covered under the Abyssal Bloodline. THey are from the Abyss, yes, but they've distinct from demons who are what that bloodline really represents being descendant from. If I were your DM, I'd let you use the Aberrant Bloodline to represent a Qlippoth heritage, possibly with some minor tweaks and/or refluffing.

>>54239128
To be fair, tech weapons like lasers and shit normally do fire damage, right? So in that sense, Luthaya is the one that's being a little cheesy.

But on that subject- we've already got two elemental themed sorcerers. When will we be seeing a water/cold sorcerer and an earth/acid sorcerer?

>>54239322
VUUUUUUUUUUUULT

>>54239329

I noticed a lot of casters. Surprised no one has made a Kellid barbarian yet.

>>54239339
>stock in Vult Salt Mining continues to rise today
>"we don't even really do anything anymore, the salt comes to us" -Vult

>>54239341
!not Cu is kind of a kellid barb thing but is a hidden blade too because reasons?

But yeah where's the out and out conan

>>54239400
Has Slow app'd yet?

>>54239414
Nah

what does /pfg/ think of this?

Clown
M Abberation
+2 dex +2 cha -2 wis
+2 racial bonus to perform, sleight of hand, intimidate, acrobatics. -2 to stealth, linguistics, diplomacy and handle animal
Squeeze (ex) penalties for squeezing into tight spaces now apply to areas twice as small as before
Honk (ex) clowns cannot speak, though they may communicate through gestures and honks. Clowns may cast spells with verbal components without penalty provided they have a horn and a free hand to honk it
Spell-like abilities: prestidigitation at will

>>54239400
The funny thing is I remember somebody made a Kellid Barbarian from Numeria for Blingmaker that got joked about for clearly being either a rip off or reference to Conan, depending on how generous the person you're asking is.

>But yeah where's the out and out conan
So yeah, Brevoy and/or the River Kingdoms, apparently. Someone oughta make an exiled Swordlord or a foreigner from the Blingmaker kingdom for Iron Gods.

>>54239456
>So yeah, Brevoy and/or the River Kingdoms, apparently. Someone oughta make an exiled Swordlord or a foreigner from the Blingmaker kingdom for Iron Gods.
See >>54239414

>>54239400
Wasn't someone going to make YOR HUNTER FROM THE FUTURE

>>54239128
How is it cheesy when the AP LITERALLY RECOMMENDS YOU DO THIS

>>54239322
For 73 GP, she might as well get a masterwork double ended for all the ladyknights around.

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>>54239329
Ebri-chan had to die anon. The source of the Church's blood had to be stopped, or else this would all happen again.

Yharnum was too far gone, it needed to be razed down, along with Laurence's folly that was the Church.

Humanity needs no distant and impersonal God to rule them, no alient entity to alter them. They need the guidance of a more personal and benevolant god to show them the way and protect them. Humanity must be raised up and uplifted by on of their own.

Praise Squidus Christ

>>54239477
I was, but then I realized I wouldn't be able to fit the game into my schedule, so I'm just sitting here in the thread like an impotent jackass

>>54239521
Damn.

>>54239010
There is nothing impure about butt loving between two consenting adults in love!

>>54239141
>he never recovered, even the a little, from his losses to the plague in Korvosa, and became a borderline mad doctor with no clue what he really wanted in life
>his first impressions went absolutely terribly, resulting in him loathing people and seeing them as little more than a way to get knowledge, power, and food

>>54239303
There's still hope for love and children for you out there, sunshine!

>>54239497

Because we live in a world where players can download the AP from the trove. I'm just saying it MAY come off poorly.

>>54239592
Are you the same kind of person who would screech if a player asked what creatures to make their favored enemy? Would you scream that it's cheesing if someone in an Ironfang Invasion game makes hobgoblins their favored enemy?

>>54239473
>>54239456
We hardly know anything about the Blingmaker kingdom, though. If I recall, the only thing we know that's happened to distinguish the PCs from any other group is getting golden body parts.

>>54239497
>>54239592

Doesn't Reign of Winter suggest playing cold-based characters despite nearly everything in the AP having resistance or immunity?

>>54237671
Nothing unless you've got the feat that lets you talk to it regularly.

The Patron is a pair of jumper-cables for your own actual power. It doing so is at minimal expense on its part, but it being what triggers your abilities colors (or 'taints') the way they grow and develop to some degree. This can be the reward in and of itself (fiend pact powers are well suited to leading someone down a dark path), but the less eldritch-horror ones usually have had you work for the boost at first.

If it dies before you become an avowed, then you don't become an avowed - well, not without a different entity to get started.

>>54239504
The source of the Church's blood? Anon, there IS no church anymore, not by the time the Hunter reaches Ebrietas. She only wanted to help humanity, and not out of some lofty desire based in pity for them or to be showered with worship- she did it with child-like motivations to help simply because she could and because they needed it. Ultimately, that's all Ebrietas was. A child, by the standards of her kind.

>>54239629
Blingmaker PCs haven't even gotten as far as starting a kingdom yet, I think. Last I remember seeing from a greentext, they're still mapping out the Greenbelt and hunting the Swag Lord

>>54239637
Yes but in that case it's a double edged sword because a cold-based character will also find their offense gimped by the enemy's cold immunity. Winter Witch PrC lets you ignore cold immunity but the enemies use that too, so it probably balances out. Not quite the same here

>>54239637
Yes. The suggestion are a hit or miss.

>>54239627

No, I am merely offering the idea that someone might not want to come off as having read through enemy stat blocks.

Now this might be the wrong time to do this, what with the plethora of new games rolling in, but it's never the wrong time to look for interest in a game.

>Clan of nobles seated in a somewhat backwater Chelish town, controlled by an old Tiefling patriarch with a LOT of descendants
>Enough intrigue to kill 6 million Isaos have led to one the family's scions faking his death and living in hiding in Nirmathas
>The party has been recruited as his proxies to deliver a certain item to his older brother, who runs a the Andoren branch of the family's sizeable trading company
>You're about to stick your hand into a beehive of fiendish plotlines running square through the heart of the Inner Sea region, and fuck with a lot of powerful and fucked up nobles
>Lewdness rating: at least 6/10 Alexanders

Chargen is negotiable, but something along the lines of
>25PB, LV3ish, Elephant, 3pp/homebrew by case, Legendary/N.Jolly allowed

Does it sound hypeable, or does it sound too generic to care about?

>>54239329
Personally, the one Bloodborne boss I regret killing the most is probably Gherman, followed by Amelia.

All Gherman wanted to do was save you, free you from becoming a slave to the Dream and the Moon Presence like him. He wanted to give you the chance to escape the prison that he was locked in. So you had to put your father figure down Snake Eater style, complete with a field of white flowers

>>54239437

Really? No response?

Someone tell me this isn't a good idea.

>>54238752
Has even ONE PC made on either 4chan or reddit been a white heterosexual male?

Has ANY PC even been two of those at once?

>>54239437
Why not just use a Bogeyman?

>>54239731
Plenty of apps to /pfg/ games are White Human Males of the non-faggot variety.

>>54239700
What does 6/10 Alexanders entail?
I like the premise, that aside.

>>54239731
We have plenty of of those senpai, plenty of straight, white, "human" males

>>54239674
I see. I was wanting to make a Dragon pact but then I was thinking it'd be sort of inconvenient to be tied to the dragon in some way? As in there needed to be a reason it couldn't just intervene in the adventure

>>54239731
Depends, do Varisians count as white?

>>54239753
Refer to this link for a depiction of 10/10 Alexanders
https://pastebin.com/RS9g08i7

>>54239797
Oh
Well then

>>54239700
Is this some courtly intrigue across the Inner Sea? Me likey, though if you want EVEN MORE APPZ than I recommend making the impetus for the quest a noble masquerade ball. Some people are there to steal, some are there to enjoy the event, some are there on rumors of meeting this man, but once the masks come off at midnight, everyone will know who their partners will be.

And due to the lewd Alexanders, masked meetings are incredibly hot.

>>54239700
Not a terrible premise. I'm not usually huge on intrigue but this one sounds like it has the potential to do intrigue without getting bogged down in it.

>>54239702
I don't regret killing Gherman because you gave him the release of death that he so deeply desired but could not take because of his duty.

Anyway, did DTG ever make good trick weapons in PF like he said he wanted to?

>>54239690
True, but Blingmaker takes place over years, and assuming the events of that campaign are canon than you'd be 6-7 years in by the events of Iron Gods, plenty of time for the kingdom to grow and become prosperous.

>>54239700
The hell is an Isao?

>>54239700
>another lewdfag game
It's shit anon.

>>54239731
The vast majority of applications that are not straight white women, are straight white men. This assumes, of course, you think Asians count as honorary whites.

Hey Iron Gods DM! Why no background skills? Just move knowledge engineering to a non background skill.

>>54239895
It is what dies when you speak the Power Word, which is Intrigue.

>>54239885
Yeah, but the problem OOC is that they probably haven't decided what their kingdom will be named, much less what it will be like. I'm still expecting BANKtopolis, the glorious foothold of Abadar in the lawless River Kingdoms.

>>54239924
Not him but probably because he already game classes with 2+INT skill an extra 2 ranks/level.

>>54237802
>Rory
>antipaladin initiator

what

at least he's good for SOMETHING

>>54239942

Don't see the harm in letting everyone grab some profession ranks

>>54239960
Rory's homebrew is actually semi-ok, outside of his normal problem of I LIKE THING SO IT MUST BE THE GREATEST

>>54239979
>actually semi-ok

got any examples buddy

>captcha: rains tacos

>>54239997
His antipaladin is exactly what I would describe as semi-ok

>>54239141
What if my character IS their darkest timeline self?

>>54239437
Bon-Bon?

>>54240033
>>54239997
It is basically just the Knight Disciple from DSP except evil. Not hard to make.

>>54239942
You could always say they came from a wealthy realm to the South, where gold flows free as the Sellen river and the rulers themselves gleam with gilding!

>>54240033
I mean that's just one example. I'm craving more now! Let's see what else shitty memedog has created.

>>54240111
This is true

>>54240111
Yeah, but its still solid

>>54240122
Well, *I* can't. I alreadyapped to Iron God with someone else. But you can.

>>54240184
who are you

I want to play a courtly intrigue! Was Ultimate Intrigue any good?

>>54240288
Well, it had the Vigilante in it. Vigilantes are really, really nice.

>>54239745
The number of apps that are white human females is surprising.

>>54240288
It had some help, but you're still mostly on your own.
Verbal duels were added as a sort of social combat system, but still it all boils down to just linearly increasing skill rolls, so it's not like it has anywhere near the depth or options of something like combat.

I've got an idea for the next thread question!

>Where does your PC want to retire?

Fun Fact: the Gambler kineticist archetype has 1 more power known than all other 6th-level manifesters, discounting the Empath Medium (who doesn't actually have Powers Known until they take Expanded Knowledge). It starts play with 2 1st-level powers and ends play with 21, precisely 1 more than the Cryptic, Dread, and PsyWar have.

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Launching the application process for Dominions of Vice: An Osirian Adventure. It'll be a short and sweet waiting period of 12 days before I pick who amongst the applicants will gain entry.

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/83053/dominions-of-vice-an-osirion-tale

Any questions, hit me up.

>>54240540
It sounds like this is going to be a comfy vacation paid for by your parent company, or is there going to be some deeper plot?

New thread

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>>54240608

>>54240575
The answer is both. The travel will be harsh and unforgiving as the wastes, and the arrival will be a breath of fresh air indeed. However, the city to which you arrive will be rife with insidious problems that need to be addressed.

>>54240614
>page 7
>anime

>>54240418
Why? /pfg/ loves playing women, and white is generally default.

>>54240674
I would've thought /pfg/ wants to play the men boning those women, not the other way around.

>>54240540
How long is the campaign meant to be? In terms of expected number of session or expected endgame level.