Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

Alpharius

Omegon

2nd for Salamanders turn them into the BLACKED LEGION

>>54114124
>>54114111
HERETIC

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Sisters players are too lazy for weapon swaps.

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Still looking for feed back on these options, melta bolters or las plas

>>54114131
>one is plastic
>the other is metal with the gun molded onto the models torso
This is just a stupid comparison, I don't even play Sisters.

>>54114131
>but an entire new kit that has that weapon in plastic

He actually thought people buy an entire box just for a combi

and he considers actually properly making your models autistic. If it's that autistic why even use SoB models? Why even use models? That shit's autistic just use soda cans and Tyranid bits to represent your units

>>54114108
NTH FOR GORKDON RAMZAY N' HIS LEGENDARY ORK COOKIN'!

>>54114131
He could just not take a combi but he's too WAAC for that. A WAACfag that's not willing to make his WAAC shit WYSIWYG.

>>54114108
Xth for based Admech literally shoving Tau in ovens.

>An animalistic growl came from the gue’ron’sha’s helm. The Imperial warrior put his shoulder down, drew a chainsaw blade, and charged.
>Bravestorm grinned fiercely as the Space Marine’s long strides ate up the distance between them. The gue’ron’sha was planning to get in close.
>A microdec passed, and the commander eye-blinked a sub-routine he had waited a long time to use.
>The XV8 took a stride forward, pivoting hard at the waist. Bravestorm’s massive onager gauntlet swung out in a backhand blow. The Space Marine’s blade was swept aside. The battlesuit gauntlet caught him in a full body blow, crushing gun and warrior alike against the lateral wall of the corridor.
>Bravestorm resumed his gun stance, already firing by the time the gue’ron’sha’s mangled corpse fell in a disorderly pile to the ground.

space marines losing to tau in melee
we melee race now

>>54114171
Man I don't even play Orks and it's always my Ork meme posts that get so popular

>>54114177
>Even MORE Tau fellating in the fluff
when will it end?

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Dumping a couple good reads

>>54114177
>wet leopard growl

>admech fucking puts tau commies in ovens
FUCKING KEK
B T F O
T
F
O

>>54114160
I can think of at least two Sister Superior models where the gun is not molded into the torso.

>>54114164

>He actually thought people buy an entire box just for a combi

Except that's literally the only way to get an sob with one.
And you would have to drill off the metal weapon already in place.

>>54114177
>7E: I1 beating I4
>8E: charger getting hit first before swinging

Tau are cheating faggots

>>54114222
Stop bitching, you picked this army knowing full well it was metal.

Shit I go out of my way and spend extra money to get old metal Tyranid models and convert them because I like the way some of them look more than the new ones. If I can do this for vanity reasons you can manage it for necessity to WYSIWYG your shit properly.

Question from last thread: is it unfluffy to have redemptionists along side sisters (and saint). Should I simply produce them as a generic religious crusade instead of redemptionist cultists?

>>54114171
>That bugz so undercooked it's invadin' planets, you grot!

>>54114229
>>8E: charger getting hit first before swinging
He used Counter-Offensive.

>>54114185
I'm more amused by the fact you built Gorkdon Ramzay off my comment over expendable taste-testing grots that ended up leading to that meme post.

>>54114217
did fires of cyraxus get released or what?

>>54114171
>did you grotz cook 'dis? cause its WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!

>>54114108
Nth for furnaces are too good for tau, they should have used meat grinders

>>54114256
Someone should make him a Warboss in a Chefs hat who leads a WAAAAGH around looking for the tastiest ingredients in the galaxy

>>54114242

>Stop bitching, you picked this army knowing full well it was metal.
I don't play sob nor do I even like them. That's not the point.

>Shit I go out of my way and spend extra money to get old metal Tyranid models and convert them because I like the way some of them look more than the new ones.
Good for you?

>If I can do this for vanity reasons you can manage it for necessity to WYSIWYG your shit properly.
Why and how? Where would you get the weapon?

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>>54114171
>WHAT ARE YOU?!
>...a git sandwich.

One thing I really like in this novel is how the tau are so shocked that the space marines have dudes running around without helmets. The helmetless dudes get killed hard.
I like this cause I like my minis to be modelled with helmet and don't like the no-helmet dude having surviving while helmet dudes are cannonfodder

>>54114285
>Why and how? Where would you get the weapon?
A combi-bolter? Are you seriously asking where to get a fucking combi-bolter??

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anybody else hoping for a TRUE custodes release that ports their 30k rulebook into a more balanced 40k codex. because right now they're 7th ed eldar levels of cheese against other 30k armies and it sucks.

>>54114221
nigger I fucking hate working with metal as is, the sooner everything is plastic or resin the better

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All praise to the Omnissiah, whose voice grows louder in the dark.

>>54114217
Those admechs doing the Emperor's work, may his divine grace always bless them

>>54114317
>or resin
I prefer metal to resin tbqh

Obviously there's no substitute for plastic though

>>54114301

Other than buying an entire kit that contains one, like the very first post said.

>>54114278
Toriko? Is dat you boss?

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ok, i have a spare one of these, and im ok with green stuff, so cut off the fingers on the power klaw and put spatula, spoon, fork, knife. maybe a green stuff apron and obviously a green stuff chef hat, anything else?

>>54114171
>Why'd the squig cross the road?
'CAUSE YA DIDN'T ZOGGIN' COOK IT!

>>54114333
There's this great new website called 'ebay', not very popular but it has some useful stuff. Maybe it has the combi-bolters you're after?

>>54114330
resin is just plastics retarded, uglier, more brittle cousin
metal is just a pain in the ass to deal with
I would rather both fuck off honestly.

>>54114333
>what are bits sites
>what is asking for/buying one off any marine player at your LGS
>what is ebay
>what is chopping and converting a regular plastic bolter and the other weapon with some greenstuff

>>54114349

>buying china recast bits off ebay
>drilling off parts of a metal model
>gluing space marine hands to it
>awkwardly gluing it on
>all to satisfy your autism
lol
Maybe you could just stop being so entitled?

>>54114339
I'm so happy things have led to this

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>>54114321
>dark mech
>Omnissiah
Alpharius is that you?

>>54114361

you know wysiwyg is just a sales gimmick by GW to sell more models, right?

>>54114379
Not that guy but your opponents have full rights to demand WYSIWYG or refuse games with you.

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>>54114395
You people are so fucking lazy.

>>54114278
YES!
YES!
I LIKE THIS IDEA!
>>54114339
Truly, this is a genius plan.
I can't wait to see how this plays out...
Someone should start compiling a list of 'famous Gorkdon Ramzay sayings.
REMEMBER, EVERYTHING IS A POSSIBLE INGREDIENT IN THE EYES OF GORKDON RAMZAY!

>>54114395
>newfags have fallen this far from the days of people actually being excited about conversions
Neck yourself

>>54114404
This. If I go out of my way to ensure that my models are WYSIWYG then I fully expect that my opponents do too.

>>54114404

kek
That's one of the more autistic things I've read today.

>>54114356
>resin
>uglier than plastic

Lol stop buying shitty recasts. Anyone with an understanding of plastic injection and with fucking eyes in their head and two equivalent sculpts in plastic and resin in their hands can tell resin has sharper details.

I chose to build my plastic Tartaros over my resin ones but I won't try to claim the plastic details are crisper and the jutting kneeplates aren't thicker and half molded to the legs.

>>54114404
>>54114415
>i'm a fucking autist and I demand everything be WYSIWYG
go back to
>>>/1d4ddit/

>>54114339
He already has an apron. The rest sounds phenomenal.

>>54114415
>>54114411

lmao
I can picture you faggots quivering in autistic rage as you sputter incoherently about a non wysiwyg model, and storming outside the store to wait until your mom picks you up

>>54114416
Yeah it's really autistic to expect your opponents to put in some fucking effort to have a good proper looking army.

Not wanting to play against a bunch of shitty lazy proxies is no different than not wanting to play against grey unpainted plastic models.

>>54114426
Buddy, I'm the one who made the 1d4ddit meme. You fucking go back to 1d4ddit you pathetic newfag scum.

>>54114379
>"I don't want to model my shit properly"
>"but I also dont want people to call me out on it nor my opponents to be bothered by it"
>calls others entitled for telling him to either fix the problem or deal with the repercussions
>calling others entitled at all

Are all SoBfags scum who deserve to die? Anyone ever met an SoB player who wasn't an abject failure?

>>54114426
>Not converting your whole army out of love
How far have this community fallnot that anon by the way

>>54114426
>>54114431
Holy shit the SoBstory is this fucking assravaged over being too retarded to convert a simple combi-bolter.

>>54114431
Or I can just say thanks but no thanks, I prefer it when my opponent's models are all modeled properly to represent what they actually have the same way mine are. Then I find someone else to play with or go do something else.

Did cheetahfag take us on a safari ruse-cruise?

>>54114435
>Not wanting to play against a bunch of shitty lazy proxies

eisenkern + statuesque heads.jpg

Combis are no longer one shot weapons. I was lenient with them before but now they are even more important to model than the squad's special weapons due to lack of challenges, voluntary wound placing, infinite ammo, and double shot mode.

>>54114435

>Yeah it's really autistic to expect your opponents to put in some fucking effort to have a good proper looking army.
lol yeah how dare anyone not meet with your personal approval

>Not wanting to play against a bunch of shitty lazy proxies is no different than not wanting to play against grey unpainted plastic models.
Yeah, I bet you refuse casual games all the time because of unpainted models and stuff.
You know, instead of sitting alone on your computer all day.

>>54114451
Cheetah fag died and copying might get you banned sometimes, that's why many anons stop copying him

>>54114177
Farsight enclaves codex when?

>>54114468
The sistersfag salt is so real, top kek

>>54114451
Cheetahfag died of laughter because of that one schizophrenic tranny Slaaneshfag

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>>54114346

Just some of the many sayings of legendary Ork Chef Gorkdon Ramzay!

>>54114450

kek
That's so autistic of you.
It's just a game you manchild.

>>54114470
Dammit! He told you your posts were killing him!

>>54114488
>refusing kindly is autistic
Good lord, if anything here's autistic it's your insistence that everyone must give in to your shitty halfassed army.

Guys...
3 units with Fly forming a closed triangle with their bases.
A unit in the middle of the triangle which does not have Fly.
This unit in the middle just became immune to being charged by enemy units that do not have the Fly keyword?
Because an enemy unit without Fly cannot target the Fly units as part of the charge, and cannot end the charge more than 1" away from an untargetted unit?

>>54114446
>Not converting your whole army out of love
It's not my fucking fault the basic guard kit doesn't come with plasma or melta guns, and no i'm not fucking remodelling decade old, already painted minis just to appease your fucking autism.
>>54114449
not even an SOB player you fucking faggot
>>54114437
>not wanting to re-arm huge chunks of your army makes you a newfag
>>>/out/

>>54114227
>>54114205
You guys or same guy. i hope you have a good day.

>>54114449
>>54114483

How many times do I have to say I don't play sob for you retards to understand?

wysiwyg is just an autistic meme designed to sell models
People who actually play games don't care.

>>54114468
>lol yeah how dare anyone not meet with your personal approval

Gluing the right part to your model instead of doing just whatever isn't some kind of strange arbitrary bar. But then again you probably think you don't need to be a proper weight, have good hygiene and grooming, and not stink.

>>54114500
Or you could replace said decade old models with ones that actually do have plasma guns. Just a thought.

>>54114499
>Because an enemy unit without Fly cannot target the Fly units as part of the charge
Incorrect. You're thinking of Airborne.

>>54114514
>Or you could replace said decade old models
>dude lmao just buy purely command squads
no?

>Yeah it's really autistic to expect your opponents to put in some fucking effort to have a good proper looking army.

I'm not following this thread so I don't know what he's talking about but he sounds very very autistic.

Is there a word for when someone attempts sarcasm and accidentally achieves honesty?

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Tfw gonna start painting my Death Guard tomorrow

>>54114526
>dude lmao put effort into your army
Guardfags truly are the worst.

>>54114517
Sorry, yes, but if the 3 Flying units have Airbourne, they can effectively provide an anti-charge wall to anything that does not have Fly?

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>>54114500
>that guy who says one of his lasgun guardsmen has a special weapon and expects you to go along with it

>>54114511

>wysiwyg autist accusing someone else of being a neckbeard

most clear projection I've seen in years

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>>54114538
Might have a bit of a problem with that due to minimum move.

>>54114538
Yes, but it will be extremely difficult to achieve, since Airborne units have minimum move distances and limited turning arcs, unless they go into hover mode, and if they go into hover mode, they can then be charged as normal.

>>54114546
Certainly, but a scenario with 2 x gunship and 1 x transport, could provide an effective turn of no-charge risk.

>>54114540

>letting GW manipulate your autism so easily
lol dude have some self respect at least

>>54114531
>DUDE REBUY YOUR HUNDREDS OF GUARDSMEN TO SATIATE MY AUTISM
no, I can do WYSIWYG with heavy weapons, but the basic fucking Guard box comes with only a flamer and nade launcher, i'm not fucking buying a dozen command squad boxes just to remodel (and repaint) plasma and melta onto everything.
go fuck yourself.
>>54114540
you could always not be an autistic fuck and believe that the grenade launcher is a melta or plasma gun since you know, only the command squad box actually comes with the special weapons.

>>54114559
Well that's just too bad ain't it? Maybe it's time for you to reconsider a new army because clearly you're too poor for the one you're currently playing.

>>54114559
You can convert lasguns into plasma/flamer pretty easily, without needing parts, and make them look ++ with a little green stuff.

>>54114541
>can't even be bothered to hit the shift or period key
>implying he can be bothered to shower daily

>>54114566

Or maybe he could just not play with autistic tools like you?
Its kind of pathetic how easily manipulated you are.

>>54114572
Meant to say melta not flamer.

>>54114243
>million plus settled worlds
>hundreds of thousands of cultures and doctrines even within one organisation
>this one thing can never happen
Fucking do it and ignore the screeching.
Redemptionists are less generic, so go with them. Hell, do Cawdor. They're zealous nobles, surely they lend their militias to religious causes. And they're the OG scourge and purge.

>>54114544
>Autists see boltguns - I see a blight launcher, a plasma gun, a power fist & a plague sword.

>>54114575
>Or maybe he could just not play with autistic tools like you?

Someone tried to decline but you started sperging out about being declined games.

>>54114574

kek
that's really the best you could do?
actually laughed out loud
keep on outing yourself though

>>54114575
>dude like WYSIWYG is a tool of the oppressive GW regime to make you buy more models lmao
>like why would a company promote something that makes everyone's armies look nicer and makes them more profit or anything like that
>don't fall for the GW conspiracy my dudes!
I suggest you stop playing 40k since you clearly hate GW so much.

>>54114559
>I proxy all of my melta and plasma as fucking guardsmen with lasguns
This has to be falseflagging or bait or something

>>54114566
>anon doesn't want to waste money buying 250$ worth of special weapons just to re arm 10 guardsmen at most and then have to repaint all of them purely because some autistic anon that doesn't get games has unrealistic expectations
>lmao ur poor
You're a fucking dumbass
Last (You) your starving ass is getting from me, it's clear you don't get games.
>>54114572
I can't model shit like that, I'm mediocre at painting, I sincerely doubt I could model a plasma gun from greenstuff

>>54114587
>implying seeing non-existent shit isn't a symptom of autism

>>54114599
>I proxy all of my melta and plasma as fucking guardsmen with lasguns
putting words in my mouth you samefagging fuck, I counts as the special weapons already in the squad, not the fucking lasguns.

>>54114559

>Anvil Industry
>Kromlech
>Victoria Miniatures
>MaxMini

All third parties that offer plasma/melta looking guns that are appropriately sized for a reasonable price.

>>54114601
>he thinks all the people telling him he's a arseface for unashamedly proxying is the same person
Wew

>>54114601
>dude look this guy has a melta
>i don't really see it, that looks like a lasgun
>no seriously look it's a melta can't you tell?
>then why is his gun same as all the other lasguns
>REEEEEEEEE IT'S A MELTA BECAUSE I SAY IT IS JUST GO WITH IT YOU AUTIST REEE REEEE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
This is what you sound like right now. Just putting it out there.

>>54114591
>implying anyone wants to play with wysiwyg autists in the first place

>>54114595
I don't hate GW for it at all.
I can see that you're too stupid to be given basic information without taking massive leaps to illogical conclusions, though.
Don't worry, I forgive you.
If you make a more intelligent post next time, I'll let you continue speaking to me.
(*^_^)

>>54114594
>has no more comebacks other than nervous laughter and feigned nonchalance
>thinks people who suffer from a problem like poor hygiene or social stigma would use those same problems as an insult against others when they're too busy feeling bad about themselves
>has no argument other than "projecting"

Did I hit the nail on the head, smelly fatass? Maybe if you put some more effort into your life you could be in better shape, better looking, and better smelling. I'll tell you what isn't going to do shit for you: the shitposts you're making.

>>54114620
>(*^_^)
You overdid it anon

The bait was perfectly believable until that point

>>54114601
You can do a plasma gun out of a lasgun just by cutting the front sight off, moving it to the muzzle, then filling the gap between with either greenstuff or a couple of lasgun ribbed stocks.

>>54114599

My Hellblasters count as Intercessors, okay?

>>54114620
>people put in effort to their army
>but no i'm fucking special because muh old models
Also that emoticon lmao

>>54114628
Sure, for today only since the kits are brand new and just came out and you haven't been able to get more intercessors yet.

>>54114602
It's a reference to a tweet by Herschel Lieberman.

>>54114621

>>has no more comebacks other than nervous laughter
Stopped reading here.
Your only comeback was attacking my lack of capitalization and punctuation, which I laughed at.
Do you see the problem with posting this?
If I point it out, can you actually see this, or are you suffering from cognitive dissonance to the point where you literally can't process this information?

>>54114171
>Someone get me ah burna boy, wez got us an undercooked beakie in da kitchen!

>>54114616
>Say I proxy the special weapon
>lol anon proxies the lasguns
The state of WYSIWYG autists
>>54114613
I'm not spending more money for something GW should have fixed when they reboxed the Guardsmen 9 years ago. And I'm not going back to ancient models to rearm them to appease 3 autists on /tg/ when I've been playing matches for a long time and no one has complained.

>>54114651
>he actually started capitalizing and punctuating

LOL HOLY FUCKING SHIT WHAT A FUCKING KEK

>>54114559
Yeah man! Buying guardsmen is a waste, let's all just bring green plastic army men instead!

>>54114650
>(((lieberman)))
Everytime

>>54114651
>>54114659
MY FUCKING SIDES

>>54114659
Because I didn't want to trigger you further, and actually find out what your problem was.
The plan has clearly backfired.

>He had seen such things before, upon Dal’yth, even recovered a damaged one himself. The earth caste analysis teams had reported that the hover-skulls were not artificial constructs built to intimidate, as Farsight had first thought, but actual human remains, usually discoloured with age and marked with runes of long service. The thought still filled Farsight with revulsion.
>The scientist Pryfinger had posited in his treatise The Fabricated Ghost that the Imperium utilised the skulls of trusted servants to create drone equivalents, believing they should serve after death and long into the future until they finally crumbled to dust. It had made for unsettling reading. How could a race so moribund, so backward, have amassed such galaxy-spanning power?

this book is funny as it is like the tau are on a national geographic expedition through sheer grimdark
the tau get to be the foil against the drimgerp

>>54114658
Depends which part of the (((hobby))) you value. If you are just in for the game, then fine who cares about wysiwyg. If you enjoy the crafting, then convert / mod / wysywig cause its fun.

>>54114658
>FINE I'LL PROXY THE SPECIAL WEAPONS
>that's clearly a flamer, you could try to remodel it as a melta though
>I SAID. IT'S. A. MELTA.
>calm down dude, if you're so pissed off then maybe you shouldn't play
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE IT'S A FUCKING MELTA YOU FUCKING WYSIWYG AUTIST I SAID IT'S A MELTA MEANS IT'S A MELTA AUTIST AUTIST AUTIST AUTIST

>>54114679
>>54114662

Your quotation key broken playa?

>>54114661
>Say rebuy
>wow anon doesn't buy guardsmen
I have my Guardsmen already you fucking ape
buying more isn't going to change the fact that Plasma, and Melta are not in the fucking box, therefor it won't change a goddamn thing, Jesus you people.

>>54114658
>And I'm not going back to ancient models to rearm them to appease 3 autists on /tg/ when I've been playing matches for a long time and no one has complained.
Then why do you keep responding and making a scene out of this, if the opinions of /tg/ mean nothing to you? Just drop the fucking subject.

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>>54114687
????

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Is wysiwyg even in the rules anymore?
I don't remember seeing it in the rulebook.

Does anyone have a page number I could see it on?
A pic would also help.

>>54114690
But they're in the command squad box, which you already admitted you're aware of, and you can otherwise get them from bits sellers and eBay.

>>54114673
>this book is funny as it is like the tau are on a national geographic expedition through sheer grimdark
>the tau get to be the foil against the drimgerp
>Farsight's literally being Steve Irwin of 40k right now

The more important question is: What does he think of Gorkdon Ramzay's cooking?

So this..."discussion" about sergeants, combi-weapons, and WYSIWYG is actually kind of relevant to something I was just thinking about.

I play Carcharodons, and most of my sergeants have either bolt pistol and chainsword, or power weapon and chainsword/bolt pistol. I can't actually fit all three weapons on them (they have a bolter in their rules too), but I do want to start using combi-bolters.

Here's why they're modeled this way:

- In 5th Edition, the rules said "all infantry with bolters may replace them with chainswords for free", and sergeants can do this anyways, so my sergeants were all BP + chainsword, or had power weapons.
- In 6E/7E, the rules said "models may replace their bolter with a chainsword for free, or pay 1 point to purchase a chainsword. THIS CHANGE MUST BE REPRESENTED ON THE MODEL". That's literally what the official FW rules said, more or less.

So now, assuming I can have triple weapon tacticals in the future, can I just say they have combi-bolters? I can't actually fit the bolter on them, and the arms don't have wrist joints for me to snap off as they're the older kit. I thought about putting the combis on another random bolter marine, but that's not exactly accurate either if the sergeant's the last man standing.

>>54114679
I like building and painting, too bad I can't build my guardsmen with Plasma and Melta since they are not in the box still.
I also enjoy actually playing the game too and people don't care that I proxy grenade launchers or flamers as plasma or melta, understandably since the guard box doesn't come with the damn things, and the Cadian models are fucking ancient.
I don't WYSIWYG with space marines though, since you know, they actually come with the weapons.

>>54114706
Can't find it in the core rulebook. You could imply it from the datasheets in indices

>>54114706
>Is wysiwyg even in the rules anymore?

No, but it doesn't matter if the tournament you go to or your local shop demands it. As with most things /tg/ overreacts about, you should see how your local area is handling it and both parties should discuss it beforehand and/or use a dash of courtesy and reasoning.

>>54114673
Everything the Tau does is hilarious in a morbid way. Its like watching a child lose their innocence
>trusts the Dark Eldar and have a 'cultural exchange'
>think they killed Slaneesh
>everything about their relations with the Imperium

>>54114730
Nah I'm good, just gonna argue with retards on the internet about it instead.

>>54114721
Nope, you need to buy all new models and equip them appropriately.

>>54114735
What's the source on that Dark Eldar one?

>GW makes 8th edition to purge autists from the hobby
>autists who remain still clutch to a rule that no longer exists called wysiwyg because it pleases their autism
>they get called out, and dont even try to hide their enormous asspain

this thread is hilarious

>>54114714
The actual question is how many creatures he shoves his thumb up the butthole of.

>>54114744
>equip them appropriately.

I can't, because they don't have three arms.

>>54114751
Dark Eldar codex. 6th I think. They turn the Tau they were given into grotesques, lure the vengeful blueberries away then loot an entire colony, leaving no survivors.

>>54114763
Holstered pistol?

Sling the bolter on their back?

Massive chainsword-bayonet on their pistol?

>>54114757
GW should just remove all non-standard wargear parts in the kits and have everything be counts-as. What's the point of even including them anyways, right?

>>54114774

lol try to stop being so upset for a minute
maybe then you'll be able to tell the difference between hobby modeling and full autist wysiwyg autism

>>54114724
I have no issue with non-wysiwyg but MY autism makes me want my models to look right, because it helps me to remember to use what i've equipped, and makes them look cool.
It is shit that GW don't provide cost-effective packs of bits, i'm sure it would net them coin too because it wouldn't be hard to undercut the extortionate prices on bits sites and ebay.

>>54114757
WYSIWYG isn't a rule anymore than "use GW models instead of green army men from the dollar store" is a rule. It doesn't need to be listed in the rulebook. It's not "illegal" for you to show up with nothing but flat bases with no models on them and just the names painted on, but you won't get a lot of games. Of course that's an extreme example but it gets the point across. Some people want to play against armies that actually represent what they say they have and don't look like half-assed powergamer autism.

>>54114768
>faggot who put zero effort into his own WYSIWYG talking shit to someone who already put in an infinite amount of effort more than him

There's a reason people shit on you and the SoBfag but probably wouldn't on the Carcharodonsfag.

>>54114797
I'm not the anon you've been arguing with, retard

>>54114796

Newfag detected.
wysiwyg used to literally be listed in the rule book as a rule

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>>54114131
Untrue. I did this swap earlier today in fact. That said, some Sisters conversions can get pretty gnarly. Basically requiring a dremel and basic greenstuff skills. But that's only if you're going for more unconventional stuff or not starting from the right model. Some of them are much easier to convert than others. Luckily the Sister Superior with the outstretched bolter is easy to swap with all the combi-weapon options and ends up WYSIWYG when you do. Ironically pic related's original Bolter & Power Sword configuration is not legal in 8th ed.

>>54114759
>The actual question is how many creatures he shoves his thumb up the butthole of.
>suddenly imagining Farsight shoving his thumb up a daemonette's butthole, and the daemonette looking back and telling him to go deeper

>>54114811
That poor model.

>>54114805
That's not the point. It doesn't need to be.

Ironically the guy REEEEING about people wanting wysiwyg being autists is displaying the textbook autism of thinking something isn't real if it isn't rigidly defined in the rulebook.

>>54114811
God that pistol is so fucking huge.

What power level would be appropriate to bring in a Renegade Knight?

>>54114613
Mad Robot is A+ too.

>>54114823

No, people are literally acting like it's an enforceable rule.

>>54114791
I understand completely, and for the same reasons.
I want my guys to be outfitted the same as well, but the fact is, GW doesn't provide the means to equip many units with what they are allowed to take, as I said my SMs don't have this issue because GW provides, my Guard HWTs don't either because they have everything in the kit, but the basic guardsman has to either be built alongside a command squad just to get the plasma or doesn't get it. It's stupid. Considering they reboxed the guys a decade ago, guess they forgot
Personally I'm ok with minis being proxied, such as the Warzone Mutant Chronicles guys for the Guard. Or with SMs counting as CSMs
It's when people try to do stuff like
>that coke can is a drop pod
or
>That guy with the pistol has a Lascannon
that I say no.

>>54114844

Because it is. Tournaments enforce it all the time.

>>54114844
Anything is an enforceable rule if its standard convention at the LGS.

If your local tournament organizer says "everything WYSIWYG or you can't bring it" then that's a rule and he can enforce it.

>>54114706
ptetty sure its not been actually in yhe rulebook for a few edditions now.

its just one of those unwritten rules.

>>54114818
>ram that rifle in there and fire!

Just use color stripes on your fucking lasguns if you're that poor holy shit. Blue tipped barrels are plasma, orange tipped barrels are melta, red tipped barrels are flamers, if you are color blind tough shit.

As long as SOME effort is made and it is CLEAR what the weapon is, what's the problem? Not being able to see that Identical Guardsman #7 is the meltagunner when he looks like every other fucking guardsman in the platoon IS a problem.

>>54114844
So by that logic "no weighted dice" isn't an enforceable rule because it's not in the rulebook?

>>54114874

It was an actual rule in 5E, so everyone that doesn't follow it just proves what a filthy newfag they are.

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>>54114835
Not that much bigger than a canon Sisters bolt pistol. Sisters are just small and have the old 2nd ed. "heroic" proportions.

>>54114885
>you may have to remind me
>implying

Take a look here

>>54114258

You faggots put the burden of memory on the opponent, which is discourteous and the major gripe with not being WYSIWYG.

Actual undeniable fucking proof that you're full of shit. Maybe it's not a good idea to do something that's so confusing people have to constantly clarify it with you.

>>54114822
I've got like six more of that pose alone. Plus that fig is still in print.

>>54114339
>>54114274
>>54114256


I'm gonna use one of those ogre butcher model with that cauldron, Mega armor him up and bam.

>>54114890
I've been flipping through my 5e BRB for a bit and can't actually find it - though I was certain it's here. Any idea where it is?

>>54114856
Nigga those coke cans are imperial knights.

>>54114905
Most people have to ask even if it's WYSIWYG unless it's imperial shit.

>>54114919

It's in the codexes. Page 127 of C:SM 5E.

>>54114928
Yeah people only recognize Imperial shit or their own army's shit. Nobody will know your Tyranids aren't WYSIWYG.

I recognize Tau stuff though. Tubes for plasma, gatlings and cones for burst, rectangles for fusion, boxes for missiles.

>>54114890
It started in 3rd, your newfag is showing.

>>54114953

The discussion is about when it last appeared, your dipshit-who-doesn't-even-read-the-thread is showing.

>>54114840
every level. You need to win.

>>54114952
It's also difficult to tell from a table length away exactly what a unit has. I'd never rely just on what I can see before making a decision.

>>54114964
>bringing a knight to games too small to fit one

It's true, that's what a winner would do. And then they'd dare you to do something about it.

>>54114953
>im close to die so im better haha

You are the reason GW created AoS and 8th.

>>54114882
>>54114870
>>54114865

>3 people in this thread don't understand what a rule is

>It is my opinion that the Adeptus Mechanicus have voluntarily abandoned that which makes the human soul so remarkable. They neither understand nor care that their methodical tyranny might breed resentment and desperation in those they oppress. I fear our xenos enemies understand the hearts and minds of the common people far better than their overlords, and that should a rebellion occur, they will be swift to capitalise upon it

~Inquisitor

lol, inquisition doesnt like the beep boops

>>54114969
>I'd never rely just on what I can see before making a decision.

Because people don't always do WYSIWYG. I would absolutely go by the model if I knew beforehand the opponent's army was meticulously and autistically modeled, right down to the wargear, rank, and squad markings.

>>54114977
>if I don't follow this established rule that makes it not a rule!

Sounds like you're the one who doesn't. Even here you're finding mass disagreements. Maybe it's you that's wrong? I mean, you can agree with someone to not follow a rule if you want, but that doesn't change the rule in any way.

>>54114980
Yeah but I don't what it all means, it's not my army. I'm still going to ask so I don't miss something.

>>54114978

Inquisition doesn't like anyone, including themselves. I wouldn't be surprised if there was some anti-Emperor radical Inquisitor.

>>54114917
>I'm gonna use one of those ogre butcher model with that cauldron, Mega armor him up and bam
Do it anon. Post pics when you're done too. I wanna see how it turns out.

>>54114988

Show me this rule.

>>54114964
>>54114972

Okay. I can't wait to disappoint my opponent tomorrow.

In seriousness I just want to blindly test a renegade Knight with two avenger cannons. For dumb made up fluff reasons.

>>54114989
Please, we are discussing glorious PC factions only

NPCs need not apply with their ridiculous dildo cannons and ninja catapults

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>>54115000
Here

>>54115004
It's still faster to ask your opponent than go around the table and check what weapons his tac marines have hiding in a building,

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>>54115004
>npc

>>54114844
It's a common house rule for tournaments. So it's certainly something to keep in mind if you care about playing in tournaments at all. For friendly play most people wont mind a few weapon swaps if they aren't confusing. Vehicle substitutions (i.e. Whirlwind for Exorcist) are generally fine too. Personally I put a hard no at the guy who wants to use a jar of Salsa con Queso as his Fists rhino though.

>>54115014
>not shuffling your wheezing mass over there and jamming your humpback whale fists into the building to check yourself, toppling over dozens of models and breaking the terrain in the process

Normie pls

>>54115030
But there's no rule saying I can't, you can't enforce it, autism, reee, #jarlivesmatter etc.

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>>54115000

>Many of those humans that complied with the tau, whether directly or through the complicity of inaction, now work the machineries above the magma lakes as indentured slaves. Their fate is a slow asphyxiation, or perhaps a quick and agonising death by scalding when the machineries inevitably malfunction.
>The strongest citizens, the heaviest set, have instead been chemically lobotomised and rebuilt as battle servitors. Their lower halves are cut away and replaced by track units even as their arms are replaced by weapons of war. The most dextrous, those who pass the Trial by Knives with all their limbs and digits intact, are instead sent to work their fingers bloody in the weapons shops. Those who fall asleep at their stations, or even so much as raise their heads, soon find an electro-scourge descending to encourage them back to work. All the while these poor benighted fools are lambasted by deafening Imperial catechisms and hypno-psalms, blasted from rank upon rank of laud hailers. These are ostensibly to reaffirm an errant people’s faith in the one true creed, but it is more likely they are intended to shred what is left of their willpower. Tried and tested Imperial bombast, designed to break a man body and soul so those who witness their fate never stray a single foot from their designated roles.

nope, we still got turbo grimdark in 40k

>>54115063

inb4 that one scrub calls the ITC a non-competitive blog

>>54115081

Bet the Tau didn't even stop to consider it was their trespass and expansionism that doomed those laborers.

>>54115063

First of all, tournament rules are not actual rules.
Second of all, they make many exceptions for wysiwyg.

>>54115092
>taking people away from the evil of the imperium
>bad
This only means no planet can be lost to them without evacuation.

>Storm it,’ said Drexian grimly. ‘Tacticum Septimus from the Codex. First element advance, second element suppress. Flank and enfilade.’
>‘Aye, brother-captain,’ came a chorus of responses from Drexian’s sergeants. All around him, pockets of stark black and yellow armour appeared amongst the shattered ruins, one ten-man squad after another abandoning its drop pod beachhead to split into two five-man units. As their battle-brothers stood up to level a hurricane of bolter fire, the first elements sprinted, leaped and charged headlong towards the unprotected flank of the tau rampart.
>A dozen Hammerhead tanks drifted into view atop the crumbling lip of the Weeping Cliffs, their vantage point a perfect firing position to slaughter those in the open below. Drexian cursed himself. No heavy Imperial tank could have made it up there, but the tau used a kind of anti-gravity technology that was far more versatile. He had underestimated their warrior caste this day, and likely for the last time.
>Turret-mounted ion cannons whined to full power, and in a firestorm of plasma spheres, the Space Marines were cut down to a man.

psssh, you fell for my trap gue'la
*unleashes tanks*

>>54115100
>rules aren't rules

Then what are they.

What the fuck do you think the specific bits that correspond to that wargear's rules are for.

>>54115081
>>54114978
Fuck off, Carnac.

>>54115100
>no true scotsman
>moving the goalpost
>probably some other logical fallacy that has a specific name that basically consists of "you're a fucking idiot"

>>54115107
>sneaking fucking tanks and wiping out tens of marines in one blow
The imperial butthurt about shit like this is always satisfying.

>>54115112

Pretending you're so dumb you don't know the difference between a tournament rule and an actual rule from the book doesn't help your argument, you know.

>>54115100
>Second of all, they make many exceptions for wysiwyg.
"My army is themed as lazy."

>>54115123
>Hammerhead obliterates multiple squads
>Leman Russ fails to kill a single Sternguard with a point blank shot in the Codex: Space Marine Sternguard fluff page

IG are the ones who should be pissed.

>>54115122

way too tryhard imo

>>54115115

I'm literally copy-pasting
wish you buy some salve for that asshurt

>>54115123
The trouble is that it always makes marines look like morons who fall for obvious traps, rather than any tactical acumen on the part of the tau.

>>54115126
>tournament RULES aren't RULES

I see you don't even need to pretend to be retarded.

Maybe if you were a bit smarter you'd put a modifier on what specific rules you're talking about, instead of globally declaring all rules non-rules if they aren't of the specific set of rules you're referring to.

>>54115139
>this race that has a bunch of hover and jetpack technology and not a SINGLE tracked vehicle
>THEY MUST HAVE TRACKED TANKS THERE'S NOTHING ON THAT HILL

Fists are just dumb and can't fight anywhere except from a fortress wall.

>Terminator armour and storm shield had been proof against every weapon the xenos could throw against them, and even a wounded Space Marine was a lethal opponent at close quarters. Abraksis was confident that every stride forward was a step towards retribution.
>The Terminator sergeant saw a set of cylinders spin through the air towards him. A moment later there was an intense flash of light that rendered his autosenses glitching and inoperable. Electrogheists danced across his lens arrays, leaving static and gibberish in their wake.
>‘Shields high!’ he shouted, raising his shield to cover his face entire. ‘Helms off!’ He mag-clamped his thunder hammer behind the storm shield and took off his malfunctioning helmet with a hiss of releasing valve-seals, his battle-brothers following suit behind him. ‘Gather close,’ he ordered, ‘Codex-pattern overlap. Advance towards the heaviest fire. This is a xenos ploy, I can taste it.’
>The Terminators stepped in shoulder to shoulder, those at the back turning their shields and walking sidelong. Even should the enemy ambush them from the rocky wastes behind, they would meet only a wall of energised ceramite and plasteel.
>Blocky shadows danced on the ground. The cold tingle of suspicion crept over Abraksis’ scalp as some sixth sense warned him that their walking fortress had one weak spot left.
>‘Shields up!’ he shouted, raising his eyes to the heavens.
>It was too late. The last thing Abraksis saw was a trio of deep red battlesuits silhouetted against a blazing sun.

*strikes you from above*
dumb humies

>>54115141

Okay, so now you're pretending I needed to further distinguish between tournament rules and rulebook rules to satisfy your specific kind of autism.

Nice try I guess.
Come up with something better, and I'll allow you to keep discussing the subject.

>>54115153
It's disappointing that what could be cool stories are reduced to just shitpost memes.

Tau fighting humans is boring.

Tau fighting Chaos would make for better reading.

>>54115081

Source or get the fuck out of my face

>>54114721
you could buy the old style legion combi weapon set and just glue it to their leg or back as if its holstered.

>>54115178

Bet it's that new Farsight novel

>>54115177

the bad guy is a chaos possessed water caste, heldraks and base demons are running about

>>54115178
literally said it many times, the new novel

>>54115030
This

>>54115189

And you'll keep on saying it, you little fag.

I own you. Never forget that.

Spent the night breaking off the arms of my harlequins. Gotta get those embraces and fusion blasters into my army, all my kisses are gone. I ran out of embraces and fusion though so I had to use blasters from a pack of wyches. Hope no one notices.

>>54115139
The imperium are for the most part mentally ill.

>>54115198

Show me in the rulebook where it says you own him.

>>54115177
>surely fighting humans that yell louder will be more exciting

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>>54114496
>Dammit! He told you your posts were killing him!
I know.....that's why I never stopped

>>54115248
>Japanese mobage

>>54115247
Why yes, the only difference between Chaos and the Imperium is how they each yell

>>54115263
Okay so chaos is more retarded. Big deal.

The novel opens with the tau fighting demons on arthas moloch
The codex supplement covers that much more extensively, fun read since they have no idea what demon are

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No one will know I'm actually half human like most of my race and that's why we don't have psykers.

>>54115304
Humans have psykers too.

Being half doesn't take you out of the running,

>>54115284
> thumbs up

>>54115312
Significantly less than the eldar.

>>54114811
can I ask what that model is called?

>>54115141
he's kinda right though. you can't apply 1 tournaments house rules as a global rule for the game.

>>54115304
Why are deldar half human?

Hey guys, is Magnus the red any good? I want to paint one real bad and might start a tzeetch army for him.

>>54114177
>>54114229
>>54114300

Is there anything in this book about how the new warp rifts affects the tau?

>>54115081
Such is the price of betrayal, they choose that fate by themselves, every time a planet goes rogue another loyal planet have to redouble their efforts because of traitors

>>54115370
they accidentally the whole 4th sphere expansion fleet.

>>54115342
Sister Superior with Power Sword. To get her new from GW you need to buy either the "Battle Sisters Squad" or "Retributor Squad".

>>54115366
Yes, he's very strong. mono-tzeentch armies have some challenges in 8th at the moment though.

>>54114599
not playing with WYSIWYG is okay if your trying out new units or another army build. But not as a standard. Have some respect for your army and opponents.

>>54115370
Takes place before it happens

>>54115358
They are the only Eldar depraved and numerous enough.

Wonder how an all flyer nid army would fair.

>>54115304
>>54115412

They literally vat-grow most of their dudes and have haemunculi resurrect people.

>>54115438
Most.

>>54115358
Beta fetishfags trying to replace their lack of sexual competence in real life with sex with fantasy beings that also happen to be BDSM obsessives.
>captcha: outlet ARABLE

>>54115456

Yea. The rest are called Trueborn

How should i remove paint from 20 year old miniatures i found?

>>54115479
Plastic or metal?

>>54115479
"Super Clean" if you live in the US. "Fairy Power Spray" if you live in the UK.

https://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Dakka_Modeling_FAQ:_How_to_Strip...

>>54115157
>implying any of this matters when Chadmarines and Guilliman are here
I hope you like your planets extra crispy

>>54115139
Thats becaus they are, and "acumen" is imperial propaganda. They are only succesful cos they have inches of keramite and can just walk up to the enemy and hit them with chainsword.

>>54115482
The plastic strippers work fine on metal. There's no need to use harsher stuff unless you're in a hurry for some reason.

>>54115482
actually both, I was wondering if i could use acetone in the metal one do to it quicker. I know acetone eats plastic so that would be for the metal one only.

>>54115479
Assuming they're metal, drop them in petrol overnight

>>54115496
Chads are too easy and Gullet inexpensive is too balls deep in his elf whore.

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>>54115198
If only we can somehow produce energy from tears and anger of gue'la, it would be an unlimited source!

>>54115354
You can when the majority of tournaments do it and the overwhelming majority of games use that specific ruleset. The ITC are literally the playtesters of 8E and you morons are still trying to act like it's just some minor thing in a single city.

>>54115533
>taufags have ran out of salt over riptides so they returned to the plentiful imperial mines

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>>54115501
>The plastic strippers work fine on metal
oh they really do

>>54115541
Emphasis on plastic, you pathetic beta cuck

>>54115533
Why bother when you can just use their actual physical slave labor.

>>54115544
You think she is natural?

>>54115545
Only slaves are the robots.

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So my friend has a fetish for corvus blackstar so we sat down and worked out this list.

be brutally honest, good or bad? what needs improving?

>mfw we are both noobs

>>54115551
Killed by stormraven spam/10

So I'm looking at the Necron Tesseract Ark and wondering why they gave it the option to take two particle beamers when they cost 3 points less than Tesla cannons and have no special rules. It boggles my mind.

Also, would you guys recommend the ark? I like the look of it but that's a lot of dosh to spend on something that might not be up to snuff.

>>54115595
Because FW are a bunch of hacks when it comes to writing rules

>>54115595
I think it should preform, but I don't think you'd be amazed by it. It's basically a necron leman russ.

THIS IS REAL NIGGA HOURS NOW

3:04 AM

>>54115715
Timezones faggot

Shockcannons or Impaler on Hive Guard?
Don't really have a lot of Dedicated Anti-Vech, but Ignore cover is so good this ed

Are two D3 statistically the same as one D6?

If not, can someone lead me to the math behind it?

>>54115538
its still only relevant at those specific events. It can't be made as a general case for the game.

>>54115778
They're not, 2d3 produces a curve compared to a linear D6.

>>54115778
Write out all the possible outcomes for 2D3 and 1D6. Are they the same?

>>54115778
No because 2d3 mas a higher minimum. It has a minimum of 2 compared to a d6 which has a mimimum of 1

>>54114222
Take a hand flamer/inferno pistol, cut it down, glue it to the top of the existing bolter.
Can also be done with a plasma pistol, but that requires a bit more work to make it look right.

>>54115778
well you can get a 1 on D6.

Do the heavy weapon squads of the cadian contain only one of each weapon type or more?

>>54115787
>It can't be made as a general case for the game.

Yes it can, if it's the general convention.

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>>54115778

>>54115715
>THIS IS REAL NIGGA HOURS NOW

WESSSSSIIIIDE AAWWW YEEEE

Looking at getting into this a little bit as I have a couple of mates who play.
What's the "go to" new player set?
I was looking at Space Marines or maybe Imperial Guard, probably only doing 25-50 power (if that's the right term) games to start

>>54115865

(it's not, by the way, I'm just being pedantic).

It's like saying "playing 40k with GW models" isn't a general rule, because the rulebook doesn't say it and nobody demands you do it in real life. 99.9% of the games are still going to involve GW models and it's going to be what people expect.

>>54115865
but its not. ITC is a tournament house rule set. But its not THE tourny rule standard

>>54115859
The HWS box is just three HWT boxes glued together to form a super-box. You'll have three of each weapon in it.

>>54115778
>>54115811
>>54115812
>>54115817
>>54115824
>>54115868
What this all boils down to is that 2d3 is more reliable - you'll get shit on less, but it's also not gonna be great as often.

>>54115887
Neat.
I want some heavy weapons for my genestealers, but I don't want to have to grab the box with all these nasty cadian bodies in it.

>>54115817

You're right, thanks for that.

>>54115885
>But its not THE tourny rule standard

Yes it is. It's the largest circuit with a global presence and has literally influenced the current edition's design.

>>54115390
lolno
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Warhammer-40k-Imperial-Agents-Sisters-of-Battle-Sister-Superior-Metal-w923-/401354431475?hash=item5d72969bf3:g:FZEAAOSwjRpZUS-E

but be honest - is the face on her totally garbage?

Would anyone have an issue with using Breacher Team Shoulder pads on a Firewarrior Strike team? The box I picked up today has a bunch of warped pads in it, but the Breacher ones are all ok.

>>54115885
Then why is 1850 the standard? RT started with 1850 but EU shaved it down to 1750 yet the common standard is back up to 1850. Why? Because of the ITC.

Is it considered "wrong" to paint not according to the lore?

>>54115938
Nope, you can paint as you like.

>>54115931
Yeah no one will care

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Start-Collecting-Space-Marines

Is this a decent set to begin playing with?

>>54115953
Well... It's called Start Collecting.

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So can anyone share new Farsight: Crisis of Faith book?

>>54115931
Most people won't notice.

>>54115953
yes, those sets are actually an excellent value.
Shop on amazon for quicker shipping and slight price reductions though, if you're a turbojew

>>54115958
Yeah but I'm just not sure if that's too little an army to begin playing with.
Games are typically played with a "power level", right?
Are most smaller games around 25-50?

>>54115966
Tfw no Amazon in Australia

>>54115931
The main difference between the two types of models are the guns, so pads won't matter to 90% of your opponents.

>>54115971
mightyape

>>54115975
Thanks lad

>>54115971
Power level is new... most people will play with "points"
unless you're willing to spend a lot at once, you need to smart small. That's a good place to start. Like >>54115966 said, they are actually an excellent value compared to most of GWs shit.

>>54115971
Always check ebay too

>>54115975
Fug $20 cheaper off the bat. No free shipping though, so it's about the same.

>>54115978
Oh really? Most of the intro vids say that points is for more serious matches, not really casul matches.

>>54115979
Noted, thanks

>>54115971
The space marine start collecting is 20 power, so it's a good start and you should be able to get someone to demo you through some games at least.

>>54115991
Alright thanks.
Are many games run at 20 power? Or is it a matter of whatever the two players agree on?

>>54114529
I hope you will paint them fleshy instead of green mate

>>54115931
Return them if theyre fucked up. Gw has that guarantee for their products if theyre faulty

>>54115971
Wait for the Primaris box set releases IMO. Get Know No Fear when it comes out. or better yet, get the Dark Imperium starter set

>>54116001
20 power is not a lot. I'd say people usually play the equivalent of 50 to 100 power in points.

>>54116009
Yeah I saw Primaris is new.
A good time to get into it I suppose.
I'm just short on Shekels because I'm moving. Hopefully around August/September I could get into it. I do have a bit of shit to sell that could fund this (I imagine it'd be about $500 AUD to get into it), but I'm tempted to buy another gun instead.
Thanks man, appreciate it

>>54115871
>>54115953

The Start Collecting sets are probably the fastest, cheapest and easiest way to get a small army together quickly, especially if you look elsewhere to buy the set. You'll have quite a few models to keep you busy without it becoming too daunting.

Also Power Points are great for people just getting started and getting used to the rules, most people on /tg/ will complain about them due to imbalance issues, but this isnt that important for a fee games with your mates.

>>54116001
Power is designed so that it doesn't have to be equal like points are, although you want to be in the same ball park at least. You'll find yourself needing to get more models, as larger games are far more common although most people don't mind downsizing for new players to start with.

>>54116022
Not to turn this into a /k/ discussion but I thought Ozzies couldn't own guns?

I highly recommend getting the Primaris models instead of the older marines because you will get more bang for your buck in the long run. Right now the Primaris dudes are pretty much second tier to the oldmarines at the moment, but that won't be the case for long and chances are you will still be using Primaris marines in a few years whereas by then the old marines will be garbage.

>>54116037
Ahk, so >>54116021 was saying 50-100 power is common.
How many points approximately is 1 power?

>>54116047
Roughly 1:20 so 50 power is 1000 points, which is considered a small game.

>>54116047
20. Most games are played in 500 point increments.

>>54116046
It's more regulated than the US, but still allowed. Imagine California turned up to 11.

>>54116047
>How many points approximately is 1 power

From 10 to 40

>>54116046
Guns is this neck of the woods tend to be more for purpose than fun.

How good is the tau start collecting? Looking to get started with 40k and was about to buy some models earlier in the year but got enlisted with short notice then while i was gone 8ed dropped. Is magnetising crisis suits the way to go because I'm not too sure i want the hassle. Currently waiting at job training school until february so i met up with some people at my local store and hada chat with them and they all said they were happy to accommodate low pr or point matches for people like me. Also considering farsight enclave paint because aesthetics.

Also is it true that more units are considered viable now instead of being that unit which may as well have been discontinued because of how often it was fielded

>>54115920
ITC rule are piece of shit.

>>54116083
fair enough, I guess not everyone can wrangle a gator with his bare hands