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Seeing as korvydae hasnt been included in the fw books, is the only way to run him now as a generic captain with thunder hammer?
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>>54056508

Probably, but on the plus side you have the rad Shadow Chapter Master Shrike.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mM99XgQtd8o

Whoa, black guys play 40k?
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Alpharius
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>>54056526
Yeah he got upgraded a bit but lost korvydae and solaq who too only can be run as a cap with sword and plas pistol, always a bit of a shame losing characters
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are primaris marines going to get a stand alone release?
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>>54056476
Primaris Plague Marines when?
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>>54056580
9th edition
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>>54056559
dont be a fag anon
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Does anyone find it odd fluffwise that the admech all have refractor fields or bionics giving them 5+ or 6+ invuns but the church has rosariuses to give to regular priests giving them a 4+ surely the cogboys should have better forcefield tech
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>>54056577
P R A I S E
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>>54056577
Yep
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>>54056636
ok cool
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Should I bother getting Contemptors and leviathans for my primaris only army, or will they just get cucked by primaris dreads?
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Time has come...

Do you even lift?
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>>54056571
Actually same with Veridyan, she was a new model as well, now only running as a generic cannoness with sword
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>>54056682
cat
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>>54056680
we've already seen they are getting that ugly dread. So probably not
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>>54056577
>see this sunbro paint job
>get more depressed about my Knight

I bought one a few months ago after splitting a cheap Renegade box on eBay with a friend. I wanted to run it with my GK in 1850(7th), well now in 8th that seems impossible because it ends up being 1/4th of a 2k list on an already low model count army. I was considering selling it because it's NoS(I saved it for the back of my backlog), but not sure yet.
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will more warlord traits being coming in respective codexs? Three seems a bit limiting over a longer time period
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>>54056728

Codices are what'll give depth to the shallow armies
Better hope you like marines cause they'll get their codices, emphasis plural
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>>54056508

Korvydae would be useless in 8E since they removed literally every single way to change a non troop unit to troop
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>>54056559
Thanks for the link, their channel looks interesting.
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Alpha legion controls the dark angels
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>>54056759
t. hazard striped autism
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>>54056660
You can't use those helmets on Primaris. That's tech heresy.
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>>54056786
He could have done something with scouts maybe seeing as he is the 10th company cap
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>>54056815
Call guilliman I don't think who ever made them gives a fuck.
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>>54056835
you mean Alpharius
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>>54056682
Your doggo is up to something.
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>>54056849
Alpharius is ded lel.
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>>54056660
Nice job. How easy was it to cut off the sarge's helmet? Was it in any way salvageable after?
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>>54056869
No, we are all Alpharius.
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>>54056568
>>54056804
>>54056849
When will Alpha Memers be put to death?
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>>54056680

The Redemptor seems to be a leviathan equivalent, so they won't make normal dreads irrelevant at least.

Gonna be honest, I don't see the Redemtor being as good as the Leviathan considering how strong the Grav bombard is. Hell, I'll even lay money that the Redemptor has a shitty rend 3 D6 damage melee weapon that doesn't live up to the rend 4 4 damage siege claw.
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Primaris marines are just another flavor of space fag, with the same boring abilities, but slightly higher stats. Why are people so excited about space fags?
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>tfw no other bananas to fist
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>>54056895
Right after we gas the dark gayngels
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>>54056897
Don't you just take 2x grav Flux on the leviathan or is that not a legal load out?

I'm looking at getting a couple contemptors cause they seem cool and a leviathan but I'm worried gw is gonna have some bullshit formation or whatever that's primaris only and is good and I can't use em.
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>>54056915
dank anals?
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Facing mech IG.
Almost feel bad about running this list.
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>>54056915
t.dogfucker
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>>54056886
You're all omegon now.
>>54056882
look at the file name anon its from here, but not oc
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>>54056682
He lurks.
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>>54056914
Is this some failed /hhg/ meme you're trying to push?
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>>54056964
It still gets to me there's a ruleset for marine on marine only action.
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Phoneposting my batrep. Necrons vs my Thousand Sons: Walk Like an Egyptian.

I ran two units of Tzaangors, two units of Rubrics, Scarab Occult, three exalted sorcerers, two spawn, and a Hellbrute.
My opponent ran a Cryptek, two Lords, two units of 13 warriors, a Ghost ark, annhilation barge, and a unit of 8 shield fellows. (Bodyguards)
Ran the spawn and tzaangors forward turn 1, spawn died to all the gauss.
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>>54057021
Yep, it's pretty weird.
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>>54057030
Used Warptime from the Sorcerer to throw the Tzaangors up the field, lost the Hellbrute to the cryptek's big gun and annhilation barge, Sons walked closer.
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>>54056682
Felinid Lord of War incoming!
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>>54056476
>idiot won't privately make a list builder for phat /tg/ $$$
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>>54056690
>Not a Mastadon for Wolves assault
Nigga what are you doing
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>>54057090
>>54057030
Are you from Ecuador?
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>>54057090
>ghost ark fully built
>unpainted
Man did your opponent dun goof.
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>>54056955
Alpharius is omegon and vice versa
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>>54057217
You can't meme you way out of your twins death Omegon. You can only shitpost.
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>>54056945
Where can you find the rules for the repressor? Doesnt seem to be in the index or the fw book
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Death Guard are getting a tank as well.
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>>54057263
Litterally all of alpha legion is alpharius
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>>54057265
Vindicator variant apparently.

Sucks cuz demolisher cannon is pretty bad.
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>>54057168
Chicago, apologies for phoneposting.
Turn two I deepstruck my Scarab Occult and they plus a Exalted Sorcerer tanked three turns of combat with two lords, the cryptek and the rezzing lychguard. I kept making invulnerable saves and my opponent regained a total of 57 wounds from Reanimation Protocols with the Lychguard. I ended up losing the game but was seriously impressed with both sides's durability. The "All is Dust" rule rubrics have is godly against bog-standard troops like warriors.
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>>54057265
>Death Guard are getting a tank
>Guard aren't getting a tank
The world is a cruel place for the Guardsmen.
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>>54057298
This from war of sigmar?
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>>54056623
Rosarius' are also holy symbols combining some warp-magic shield of the emperor's faith bullshit with force field tech. Think of it as the 6+ invuln Sisters have just for moaning the Emperor's name when they schlick at night combined with a refractor.
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Okay, so I finally got a copy of the new imperial armor, and the stormcannon leviathan looks pretty dumb. For 309 points you get a land raider with 2 fewer wounds and 20 S7 AP -2 D2 shots with degrading BS2+, on top of the twin heavy flamers. It sucks in melee, but who cares when it has a 4+ invuln and explodes in a 9" radius on a 5 or 6.

I get that forgeworld rules are meme tier, but it seems dumb that the twin stormcannon loadout costs less than the melee one.

At what point level is it scummy to bring a dakka leviathan?
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tfw you have your armies index as a physical book but you still go and look on the pdf
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>>54057306
>convert guard
>play renegades
>receive nurgle stank tank
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>>54057343
Bringing any Leviathan is scummy. They are straight broken, there's not even an argument.
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>>54057021
>the whole point is marine vs marines
>adds robots and solar army

FW
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>>54057306
Don't worry, it'll be named the Armorplague Poxcrusher or something stupid like that.
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>>54057303
thanks for the quick share, anon.
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>>54057405
>Horus Heresy was as much about AdMech vs DarkMech as it was muhreens
>muhreen autists whine that AdMech get some token inclusion with 1/10th of the releases of the copypaste Legions
And this is why people hate HHfags
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So a GW near me is having a Primaris painting contest.

Should I paint up my Primaris as a Salamander or come up with my own colour scheme?
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Best way to use Bullgryns ? They don't seem that killy or at least the amount that you can fit in a chimera arnt
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>>54057343
just strap on the grav-flux bombards and revel in the scumminess
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>>54057399

Mines dual claws though

Didn't even bother to put a drill on it
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>>54057462
Enjoy getting no games if you do this. You'll be treated exactly like the Riptide Spammers of last edition. My shop is considering banning FW already
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>>54057264
Marine FW index
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>>54057451
go nuts
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>>54057451
Paint it as an old skool salamander with the yellow and black camo. If you can pull it off you should be guaranteed the win.
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>>54056914
>>54056964
We are fortifying this thread!
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>>54057479
Oh okay, I forgot you can even run them like that. That might be accepted.
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>>54057296
He wasn't dead in legion. which is what you have pictured.

He's dead now. DED. "I am alpharius" is just shitposting now. There's no mystery here. He is DEAD. Thank the black library and Dorn.

You are Omegon. OMEGON. The shit boring one.
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What's the best Plague Marine colour scheme?
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>>54057520
Glooming lords.
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>>54057448
>Horus heresy was about mechanishits as much as primarchs and legions

No this is why people hate you admechfags. Holy fucking shit do you honestly believe your faction is even one iota as relevant as the fucking namesakes and stars

You can't even name any fucking prominent characters other than scoria

You might as well say Star Wars is equally about the gungans as it is about Jedi and sith
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>>54057451
>>54057451
Tiger claws. Although Im not sure anything can make that beer gut captain work.
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>>54057448
What books were about the Mechanicum conflict other than Mechanicum? HH looked long as boring as shit and I never got past the first few.
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>>54057520
Arctic themed death guard with black , purple and blue frost bitten , flesh like armour.
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>>54057451
Salamanders are cool but I hope you aren't entering that fat boy in gravy armour.
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>>54057536
That was Star Wars' mistake. They should have made it more about the Gungans. Fucking copypaste Jedi Sith BS brings us nowhere original
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>>54057509
They share a soul lmao
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>>54057536
Fuck the monks, it's all about the rebels and the stormtroopers.
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>>54057536
>implying I play Mechanicum or HH at all
>implying the fact that FW has only released one named character for Mechanicum isn't supporting my argument that they barely touch on them with releases compared to the generic legion shit
>star wars comparison autism
>not realizing the AdMech is literally half (50%) of the entire fucking Imperium
Wew
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should o sell some of my 5 droppods now? they just dont seem worth it.
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>>54057448
Oh I wasn't aware warrior lodges, istvaan, horus's rebellion, calth, prospero, battle of terra (not mars), etc etc etc times infinity was mechanicus focused lore.

What you meant to say was that Horus Heresy features knights and titans.
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>>54057509
Dorn just gave Alpharius a nice haircut. With his massive chain sword. That remove the upper part of Alpharius scalp and face. Further evidence that while great at fortifications the IF are not very good Barbers.
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>>54057575
>implying I play Mechanicum or HH at all

Sort of like you calling people HHfags when they don't even play 30k.

W
E
W
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Admech good this edition?
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>that feeling when Elysians will never drop wheeled Leman Russes out of Sky Talons.
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>>54057575
>not realizing the AdMech is literally half (50%) of the entire fucking Imperium

Are you retarded? The Imperium is not 500,000 Forge Worlds and 500,000 non-Forge Worlds.

You literally cannot constitute any significant portion of the Imperium unless you are "random backwater world" or "useless civilian/guard fleshbag" because that's what makes up 99.9% of the Imperium.
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>>54057554
Hey he's just a little husky.
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>>54057572
yeah nah omegon. Go lead effrit squad into obscurity.
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>>54057298
its probably got some chemical/bio weapon instead of the demolisher cannon.
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>>54057601
drop them while you can.
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soo how badly are they going to fuck up the game by releasing codexes?

i hope they realize that giving armies a bunch of flavour rules (that make them stronger) should be reflected on points costs otherwise armies with codexes out are automatically at an advantage
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Here's probably a dumb question; Does Old One Eye benefit from his own +1 to hit rule for being a Carnifex that is within 6" of himself?
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>>54056577
If only my knight could be so grossly incandascent
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>>54057448
>Horus Heresy was as much about AdMech vs DarkMech as it was muhreens
>not realizing the AdMech is literally half (50%) of the entire fucking Imperium

See, I keep telling you guys it's the AdMechfags who are the real shitlords. They're just less common than the CSMfags, SoBfags, IGfags, and the Ork/Nid whiners. But when one of these faggots show up spamming binary memes and self-aggrandizing, whew the shit-stink is real.
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>>54057690
Tfw your mad that gulliman is Alpharius
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>>54057607
Every single one of those battles involved Mechanicum forces.

Every single tank, gun, void ship, and suit of armour in the Heresy was built, maintained and repaired by Mechanicum. They were present alongside all the Legions. They owned half the planets captured in the Crusade. The civil war raging on Mars was just as intense as Terra.

The fact that FW chose not to focus on any of this because they wanted to jerk off to boring-ass space marines is exactly the point I was making. Mechanicum deserve more focus and yet you get marinefags literally sperging out that Mechboys got a few paltry releases and mentions instead of all muhreenfaggotry all the time.

But enough of this entire discussion, this is the 40k thread, HH faggots go back to your containment threads, you guys don't even use the same game system anymore. Enjoy your dedgame now that glorious 8th edition is here.
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>>54056476
>surely there will be new sisters sculpts eventually
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>>54057709
He has the Carnifex keyword, so I'm going to say yes.
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>>54057709
yes, he affects every carnifex in range, he is a carnifex. This is made clear in the BRB about auras always affecting the model with it. IIRC its in the movement section in the sidebar
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>>54057709
yes he does
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>>54057719
Guilliman isn't a manlet, that's how I know your wrong omegon.
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>>54057709
how is this thing less PL than a deff dread?? all its stats are better...
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>>54057709
No, because the rule only targets "Carnifex units" not "models with the CARNIFEX keyword".

His unit is "Old One Eye".
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So, I just had a discussion with a friend.

Imperial Guard Conscripts are, again, very good tarpit/walling units.

Whereas other armies can deploy snipers and kill the Commissars, what are Tyranids supposed to do? Lictors won't be able to come near them.
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>>54057755
Thats just what they told you to get rid of your doubt
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>>54057747
>>54057750
His special rule doesn't target that keyword, though, so it doesn't matter. His ability doesn't affect him.
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>>54057737
We got new Plague Marines, and Marines that aren't manlets. Anything is possible.
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>>54057709
looks like it yeah.
a model is in range of itself for aura abilities.
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>>54057701
I'm willing to bet that we'll see "new" factions that are based on existing ones but soft-squat the originals. See Primaris Marines, and all the AoS battle tomes.
We're all gon' get Primarised, guys.
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>>54057789
When will you manlets learn.
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>>54057750
>>54057747
>>54057753
>IIRC its in the movement section in the sidebar
Its in the shooting section of the Battle Primer, I just checked. Thanks fellas.
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>>54057788
>what are Tyranids supposed to do?

Apply genestealers to the blobs

>>54057792
people like you, make me lose my faith in humanity.
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>>54057666
>needing wheeled Leman Russes
>Not being happy your codex has the best sniper and the best order that is FRFSRF
come on anon, all I want now is D-99 to come back so I can have muh Gland Warriors
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>>54057788

They need to add tank shock back into the game. Things like Inceptors crashing down from high fucking orbit, or a Trygon coming up from the ground should not be stopped because SOME FUCKING FAGGOT AND HIS BUTTBUDDY CONSCRIPT WERE STANDING ON THAT SPOT

You want to play stupid bubble wrap games? Get punished for it then.
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>>54057800
Very likely I'd say. I can see non-cult legions getting soft-squatted after being so badly BTFO by Guilly and the Indomitus Crusade.
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>>54057788
Your only option is to fight them head on horde for horde. Devilgaunts are extremely cost-efficient and can make their points back against conscripts in a few turns of shooting, Genestealers can get stuck in and shred them.
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>>54057800
cant wait for OrrukZ
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>>54057213
Every single necron model isn't even primed.
My guess is they heard crons are good in 8e and dropped their walket to try and win.
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>>54057858
the sad part is that necrons can be tabletop ready after a coat of silver primer.
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>>54057831
>isn't FRFSRF*
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>>54057822
>people like you, make me lose my faith in humanity.
I'm sorry that's not what you wanted to hear but it's accurate. It's not even a RAW vs RAI thing it's literally intended. Broodlords buff Genestealers but not themselves, Tyranid Primes buff Warriors but not themselves, Old One Eye buffs Carnifexes but not himself.
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>>54057132
>They're not going to release a new Tyranid Codex without new units
While they haven't done this in the past, what they HAVE done was release a Codex that REMOVED units. So getting a new book with nothing new in it would come as no surprise.
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>>54057789
>Manlet deflecting
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>>54057296
I rather enjoyed that book.
Made me far more interested in running AL. If I ever pick up HH that's probably the way I'd go.
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>>54057883
>Broodlords buff Genestealers but not themselves, Tyranid Primes buff Warriors but not themselves, Old One Eye buffs Carnifexes but not himself.

i swear to god, you're that ynnarifag from last week.
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>>54057819
He doesn't qualify for the buff though. It has nothing to do with the aura abilities that usually affect the person emitting the aura.
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>tfw the constant manlet memeing triggers me every time

I'M GONNA HAVE BOTH IN MY ARMY STOP CALLING ME A MARINELET
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>>54057900
I want more alpha legion fluff
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>>54057890
>what they HAVE done was release a Codex that REMOVED units
This was during the Chapterhouse purge of all units that didn't have models.

We won't see that in the future because they've already completed it.
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>>54057905
Don't argue with retards, it isn't worth your time.
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>>54057905
Still trying to justify Ynnari Haemonculi retard san?
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>>54057905
I don't play elves son
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>>54057852
>>54057840
>>54057800
This is exactly why I'm not buying into anything new until they receive their full 8th edition treatment. I fully expect that current armies will gradually be phased out in favor of new AoS-style factions over the coming few years.
Mark my words, Primaris is just the beginning.
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>>54057942
Except you guys are the ones being retarded.

OOE doesn't buff himself.

I literally fucking play Tyranids you idiots.
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>>54057942
good point.
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>>54057562
No, not the fucking meesa jahjah binks.
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>>54057462
I'm not saying its not broken but 18" range is a weakness at least. You could bring 2 mortis contemptor dreads which have 8 lascannons and they would get maybe 3 shots through from 48". That drops his move to 5" and makes him shitty from that point.
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>>54057989
Dont' argue with retards anon, it isn't worth your time. The guy you're arguing against thinks you can include Haemonculus Covens units in a Ynnari army, despite the rules explicitly saying you cannot. He's a waacfag beyond all measure, always looking for some loophole to increase the potency of the unit he's theorycrafting about (he doesn't actually play anymore, since nobody will play against him).
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>>54057989
OOE is a carnifex unit due to his unit entry having the carnifex keyword. If you can't get past this, there is no helping you.

If you want an easy cross check you can look at primaris marines and rhinos.

>>54058036
btfo so hard by multiple people, that you are still butthurt a week later. lol
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>>54058056
You still haven't provided a single rules justifcation for including your waacfag shit in a ynnari army anon. I've waited.
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>>54058056
>OOE is a carnifex unit due to his unit entry having the carnifex keyword
That's not how keywords work. A Carnifex unit is only the unit with the datasheet named "Carnifex". If his ability affected all models with the Carnifex keyword, it would say "friendly <HIVE FLEET> CARNIFEXES" with CARNIFEX in the bold capitalized font they use for keywords, instead of "friendly <HIVE FLEET> Carnifex units"
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>>54057852
>Ghazkull is the beast, he leads the biggest orks!
>introducing Orktarians, the veterans of the war against the tyrnaids
>as big as the old Ghazkull model, these brutes are capable of tearing anything short of an imperial knight to shreds with their bare hands and bear guns the size of nobz
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>>54058076
i don't even play knife ears. but honestly you should tripfag it up, it will make filtering you easier.

>>54058093
interesting, point to the brb entry that standardizes that convention.
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>>54058093

You're using 7E interpretation of the rules. A Veteran Space Marine Sergeant counts as a Space Marine in 8E because he has the Space Marine keyword ("Adeptus Astartes").
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>>54057989
Ooe does buff himself. This is coming from a Nid player. The rulebook has a rule about auras also affecting the model they originate from, as long as their keyword matches. Don't have the book onhand right now, but I think its on the page on movement rules.
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>>54058139
>point to the brb entry that standardizes that convention.
It's easy to spot contextually by looking through the indexes.

If you're going to argue "the rules don't say it doesn't work that way" then you're just falling into the same trap as the people who argue that "the rules don't say I have to use dice that aren't cooked and weighted", the designer's assume too much of the community and figure you people aren't being retarded.

If it says "x unit" not in keyword-font, it's referencing the unit that has that name. Keywords are only referenced in the bolded small-capitals font they are listed in.


Cross reference the Genestealer Cult Patriarch, note that his ability affects "Purestrain Genestealer units" and he only has the GENESTEALER keyword so clearly it cannot be referencing that keyword.

>>54058144
No I'm not. You're not understanding how keywords work.
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What's the best unit to run Pedro Kantor with? Vanguards? Termies?
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>>54056476
Since when does artificer armour 2+ save exist on the tabletop? Because I can't think an instance when someone that has access to it wouldn't take it.
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>>54058189
That isn't the issue. The issue is one of formatting: the OOE buff rule uses "carnifex units", but not the "<CARNIFEX> keyword". OOE is not a "carnifex unit", but is a <CARNIFEX>. RAW, the OOE buff only affects the very specific unit called "Carnifex", and not any other variants of that unit which share the <CARNIFEX> keyword. Whether this is intended or not, I have no idea.
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>>54057792
anon is correct old one eye doesn't affect himself because carnifex isn't capitalized. This is the same rule as a terminator sergeant not being able to take chainfist.
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>>54058189
>The rulebook has a rule about auras also affecting the model they originate from, as long as their keyword matches
Yes, no shit, but his rule doesn't reference a keyword at all, so it doesn't affect him. This isn't an issue with auras, it's an issue with his particular rule. And no, it's not an oversight either, it's intended. They went out of their way to write "Carnifex units" putting the extra word "units" in there instead of just saying "<HIVE FLEET> CARNIFEXES" using the keyword font.
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>>54058139
You trip up first waacfag. I've never seen anyone so dumb as to not know what "army" means in the context of 40k.
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>>54057831
It's less that I'm not satisfied with the list and more that the Tauros is one of the best wheeled vehicles in all of 40k and I desire more wheeled goodness.
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>>54058139
Not him but there isn't one. They only give examples using faction keywords in bold font. GW really sucks at writing rules, the lack of definitions is painful, see the "rolls of a [number]" vs "rolls of a [number]+" which could have been solved with defining "natural rolls."
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I miss instant death.
So much for streamlining things, instead GW added more book keeping memorization and dice rolls to convoluted things.
And yet vehicle facings were considered obtuse.
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>>54058245
yea, they also did it with the tyranid prime, as he buffs tyranid warriors and tyranid shrikes, but not tyranid primes.

So GW got lazy or decided to give nids a parting middle finger in the index. Imma blame Robin Cruddace

>>54058275
WAACfags are usually first to throw that word around to deflect and hide their own WAACfaggery, fyi
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>>54058295
Why you got mortal wounds. No saves at all
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I'm really loving my guard+sisters army so far.

A big blob of gurdsmen sitting on an objective with lascannons and a commander, protecting a basilisk squadron.

Then the sisters arrive in rhinos with Celestine and 15 seraphim leading the way.

It's been working so far, beat marines and nids and tau a few times, lost to both flavors of eldar.
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>>54058292
Shh, you'll anger the drones that vehemently say GW does no wrong and you're autistic for not figuring out their orc-writings.
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>>54058323
What are you running on your sister squads?
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>>54058314
>keep track of more wounds
>things like stimulant injectors are still a save against mortal wounds
That's not as good.
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Does anyone have other instances where auras or models affect other units written in lower case?
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>>54058312
Except I'm arguing against my interest as a Ynnari player. If I could, I would run Mandrakes, etc.
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>>54057905

But he's right.

It literally says "friendly units within 6", that excludes itself.

Or are you thinking tank commander Pask of the IG can ussue orders onto himself? He cannot.
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>>54058327
I expect more from people that make a living writing in English, to understand the importance of defining abstract terms in an inherently complex system.
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>>54058361
read the rules again, idiot
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>>54058354
A whole bunch of Tyranid units do this.
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>>54058357
it's easy to claim something on the internet, anon.

Who knows, you might play against another ynarri player who does run mandrakes and are too stubborn to buy new models. The workings of WAACfags are a mysterious thing.
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>>54058354
The same system is copy pasted from AoS and its been confirmed effects only apply to <CAPITALIZED> in that.
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>>54058383
It would be just as easy for you to claim you don't play ynnari, shitposter kun. Given one of us knows what Army means, and one of us pretends he doesn't, I think you're the least trustworthy.
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>>54058361
>It literally says "friendly units within 6", that excludes itself.
Wrong. OOE cannot affect himself but this is NOT the reason why, don't confuse the issue.

He cannot affect himself because his unit is "Old One Eye" not "Carnifex" and his ability only affects "Carnifex units" and NOT "models with the CARNIFEX keyword" which he actually does have.
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>>54058344
in my 1500 point list

2 squads of Sisters x10
1 Plasma Pistol
1 Meltagun
1 Heavy Flamer
Rhino

3 squads of 5 Seraphim
1 Plasma Pistol
2 Inferno Pistol

1 Celestine with her friends

then some guard stuff
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>>54058373
Stop being autistic.
this is really like orc writings that have several interpretations and the loudest and most violent group has the correct interpretation until the warboss (GW) takes their own interpretation of what they previously wrote
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>>54058375


Then tell me where exactly it stands that tyranid HQs, IG HQs etc buff themselves in addition to the units around them. Excluding tank. Commanders as those are targeted abilities
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>>54058295
Facings were considered something people can argue over.
I'm pretty sure all the stuff like templates, facings etc were removed to stop the autists arguing over things.
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>>54058424
In the core rules.
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>>54058401
however my interpretation is more inclusive and fun.
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>>54058121
you know that actually sounds kinda cool
problem is I dont trust gw to do it right
kinda feels like Ward never actually left gw, but became some sort of gestalt hivemind of the company instead
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>>54058430
This.
They didn't add all that much to the game, and retards would argue over them endlessly. If there was an argument, you could be 80% sure it was over how many hits a template gets, or whether you're in the back or side arc of a vehicle.
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>>54058323
What did deldar use against your blobs?
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I was thinking of using the Imperial Knight Icarus Autocannon turrets as autocannons for rifleman dreadnoughts. Good idea? Or do they look too goofy?
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>>54058424
The core rules state that models with aura abilities that say they affect friendly models within x inches do affect themselves because they are always within x inches of themselves, but only if they qualify for the ability.

OOE does not affect himself with his aura because he's not a "Carnifex unit".
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>>54058438
>raping the lore and balance to justify a highly competitive army
>fun

Seriously, trip up, everyone needs to filter you.
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>>54058422
I'm not, you have to define what your concept means otherwise what you describe happens.
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>>54058482
>more varied armies
>not fun

kys
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>>54058490
>taudar is fun because it is varied

Oh yeah, I found the waacfag.
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>>54058354
The Necron Destroyer lord uses a lower case aura and it specifically states that he also affects himself, OOE does not.
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>>54058479
i think people are getting confused

OOE is a CARNIFEX unit
however
OOE is not a carnifex unit

his ability affects carnifex unit.

whether this is intentional, can be contended.

>>54058505
seriously kys
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>>54056559
Stupid post but interesting looking channel. I'm trying to decide if I just got reverse psych baited.
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>>54056577
>Not thermal cannon
Almost perfect
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Played two 2000 Pt games today anons how bout all of you? The heroic Imperial Guard faced the forces of Tzeentch twice this day in the form of Daemons and the Traitor Thousand Sons Legion. Up for a batrep anons and which one would you like to hear about?
And fellow Guard anons show off those sexy armies
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>>54058482
40k lore doesn't matter, GW can and will change it on a dime.
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are Poxwalkers good?
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>>54058559
How many conscripts did you use?
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>>54058189


Fuck, you're right.

I honestly thought the tyranid HQs don't buff themselves.

OOE and Tyranid Prime are noice
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>>54058540
They're weird.

Very high production values though only 300 or so subs. They're new I guess.

They also have a 'niche' of recording live games for their battle reports. Obviously this takes forever but if you're gonna spend 2 hours watching a battle report anyway, you may as well watch it fully and these guys seem to have experience on camera and aren't social retards so... cool.
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>>54058561
And right now, the rules and lore are both that covens units don't work with ynnari armies.
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>>54058559
Show me some more of them pre-heresy painted TSons.
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>>54058581
>I honestly thought the tyranid HQs don't buff themselves.
They don't. Read their abilities. They only buff very specific units.
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>>54058561
Daily reminder Lelith Hesperax is now a druggie.
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>>54058614
Read the fine print. "Unless the ability in question says otherwise" - the Nid abilities don't say otherwise, therefore they benefit from their own auras.
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>>54057768
This is the kind of autistic thinking that waacfaggotry thrives on. Stahp
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Thread fortified.
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>>54058632
As long as I can stick it in that's fine.
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>>54058632
It still hurts.
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>>54058581
i thought this at first, but due to formatting, i think they don't

>>54058587
Yet, black templars will ally with armies that have psykers. WE all know lore takes a backseat to model sales with GW

>>54058636
see >>54058537
It's really dumb and poorly worded, but thats how it's written. Also check out the tyranid prime, it doesn't buff tyranid primes and states it only buffs tyranid warriors and shrikes by name.
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Good to see that there are still supporting and friendly GW shops out there.
Our GW split into two shops a few years ago.
One is as good as empty, the other is full of mouthbreathers (including the staff) that are a bunch of "know it alls".
I was booted from that shop because I was having a (heated) conversation about the fact that Bretonnia still not has an update in AoS. The manager of the shop was telling me that Brets are very powerfull in AoS and are very often used in tournaments. I asked him to stop lying to me. so he kicked me out of the shop....
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Best Primarch
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>>54058654
Probably easier now.
Gotta pay for her drugs somehow.
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>>54058672
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>>54058639
It's literally the rules as intended.
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>>54058559
Hey GGA! When did you two-tone your tanks? They're lookin' good!

Aaargh! I'm halfway though my second non-standard infantry but I can't finish them because I got family on vacation using my studio as a goddamn storage rack!
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>>54057303
Where in Chicago is fun to play? I'm thinking of jumping into the hobby soon, live in N burbs now.
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>>54058581
This is addressing the question of are they in range. They say it over and over again, read it again.
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>>54058632
I'm confident they'll fix it.
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>>54058636
>the Nid abilities don't say otherwise
Yes, they do. They specify the specific units they work on, which do not include the models with those abilities.

Or do you seriously think the Tervigon get's to re-roll 1's to hit because it has an ability that says "Termagant units within 6" re-roll 1's to hit" but that ability doesn't specifically say it doesn't work on the Tervigon?
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>>54058578
>>54058596
>>54058559
Only used 50 conscripts but had five infantry squads as well.

The forces of the Imperial Guard were forced to in against the Traitors and the more maneuverable force covered the distance between them swiftly. The majority of the Chaos horde running forward with their one ranged support unit damaging one of the Guard Executioners.
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>>54058719
but are you a big enough LOREfag enough to not use drugs with her, while it's broken?
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>>54058662
Black Templars will work with the Ordo Hereticus. See Greyfax for example.
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>>54058725
The Tervigon doesn't have the termagaunt keyword.
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>>54058756
I would, but it's not a may ability.
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Hmm I have the following dreads:

1 chaplain
2 venerable
2 regular
1 Mortis
3 contemptor
1 Deredeo
1 Leviathan
1 Librarian
1 furioso
1 Death Company

This week I decided I needed another Mortis, so went in and found the three blood Angels dread pack still for sale at my LGS at a good discount, so snapped that up.

I've built my extra Mortis and a second death company dread, albeit with chapter-specific markings modded off as I don't actually run my chapter as Blood Angels.

My question is: What should I build the third dread body as? I'm not limited to librarian/furioso/death company: I have plenty of parts to convert them into any other boxy dread configuration.
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>>54058780
Nice dread collection, got any pics?
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>>54057822
>>54057788
its theory hammer but I've been thinking spinefist, bonesword and flesh hook warriors. you get 5 shots and 4 attacks in CC per model for 26 points
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>>54058719
All it takes is saying "Her battle focus is such that she gets the same effect as combat drugs" and it'd be fixed.
I'm annoyed they didn't do that in the index.
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>>54058695
No. "XXX units" literally means any unit with the XXX keyword.
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>>54058778
whelp, don the mantle of WAACfag and be proud.
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>>54058786

Not many, I'm working my way through base coating and shading right now.
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What is the most Irish 40k faction /40kg/?
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>>54058702
>>54058738
I go to the Geneva Commons GW and they're pretty good there.

The Imperial return volley was...a little underwhelming. A flurry of Lasgun shots and Plasma blasts flew into the mass of silent Chaos Marines and though their demonic servants fell not a single complete unit was killed.
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>>54058795
Yup. Would be nice if she could double up a normal unit on the picked effect too.
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>>54057768
Are you actually that retarded?
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>>54058760
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>>54058771
Which doesn't matter because the ability doesn't reference a keyword anyway, only a specific unit.

Just like OOE's ability, which doesn't care if you have the CARNIFEX keyword, only if you are the unit called "Carnifex" found on page 104 of the index.
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>>54058814
Orks
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>>54058863
Really?
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>>54058833
hear me out, i used to think these guys were retarded too. but GW fucked nids on this issue.

look at the stupid formatting on their entry and cross it with other armies.
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>>54058800
No it literally doesn't mean that. It means the unit with that name.

If a rule references a keyword the keyword is written in the SMALL CAPITALS BOLD font that they are listed in at the bottom of the datasheet.
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>>54058852
I get your argument generally, but the tervigon analogy doesn't work. Anyone not convinced by the formatting will just point out that OOE does have the carnifex keyword, and the tervigon doesn't have the gant.
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>you will neve sleep with a sister of battle and call her 'mother superior' as she rides you dry

Going to be placing a big order from Alpharius the chinaman soon. What should I grab to add to my Krieg army? I thought about just getting 4 more infantry squads but I want something with more punch. Thudd gun worth it? Heavy weapons squads? Whatever I do I'm grabbing engineers.
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>>54058833
Just read the fucking indexes and you'll see I'm right. Age of Sigmar uses the same keyword system and have an FAQ that clarifies this. Keywords are only being referenced when they're written in the BOLD ALLCAPS FONT.
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>>54058819
The first thing to die was a Guard infantry squad and they fell screaming as the bolters of the Rubric Marines tore apart their meager armor. The psychic might of a their pyskers further damaging the wounded tank but thankfully their charges were unable to kill any more Guard forces.
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>>54056660

this is exactly what i was looking for to prove that it wasn't a bad idea to make a group of iron hand primaris marines to supplement my admech army
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>>54058263

Characters are units. OOE is a unit. He gets his own aura. Don't just assume things based on previous editions.

"UNITS
Models move and fight in units, made up of one or more models."


"AURA ABILITIES
Some units – usually CHARACTERS..."
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>>54058875
All these arguments have been beaten to death already when they started doing this shit in AoS and broke everything. Kairos is a LORD OF CHANGE but not a Lord of Change in that.
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no WIP thread.

Always sucked at painting.

trying to get a table top quality raven guard scheme going.

C and C welcome.
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Soooo Celestine is not a unique character?
We are picking and choosing when something is a typo or not at this point.
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Only one game of 8th so far.
What is points efficient for Chaos / Death Guard?
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>>54058810
Alrighty. Make sure to post them here when they're done, I'd love to see them and I'm sure others would too.
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>>54058946
I'd recommend highlighting black with Dark Reaper or Eshin Grey, not Boltgun Metal.
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>>54058738
>>54058819
>>54058916
All those unpainted CSM hurt my eyes.

>>54058946
Your white on the helmet and the parchment on your scrolls could use some work but the rest is solid.
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>>54058916
After a round of shooting that heavily damaged many of the Traitor's units they made to charge the weakened Guard lines. Three of their units attempted to charge but not all of them succeeded and most were too damaged that they did nothing at all.
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>>54058958
Typo. And already ruled unique as far as the ITC is concerned.
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>>54058933
>OOE is a unit
Yeah but he's not a Carnifex unit.
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>>54058958
If you come across rules that could interpreted as retarded/ridiculously OP on one hand or reasonable on the other, 9 times out of 10 the intent was the reasonable interpretation.
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>>54058964

Sure thing. Any thoughts on Dread 17?
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>>54058974
And if almost by magic the Heretic warlord and the two Daemon engines vanished from the field in a hail of Imperial vengeance. The Guardsmen rallied and marched towards the forces of Chaos lasguns firing even as a group of Scions snuck in to seize the Chaos objective.
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>>54058852

Are there any other auras that target specific units instead of a keyword?
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Anyone tell me how viable Onager Dunecrawlers are in this edition? Are they best used in conjunction with Cawl?
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>>54058946
weather them like this person did IMO
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>RAWfags will seriously try and deny OOE a slight advantage in combat (the only phase he can do anything in)
>A character that has literally never been good ever, and still isn't that good, and is mostly forgotten

Holy fuck direct your autism at nitpicking the fineprint on actual game breaking units if you're gonna go down this sad path

Don't forget to insist his ability doesn't work on Carnifexes because RAW it says "Carnifex" and no such unit exists

This is why no one wants to play you faggots
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>>54059066
They're one of the best tank busters out there from what I can see.
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I NO STUPID! I BUILD WALL!
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>No longer available.

does this mean its getting phased out/replaced? Or is it just a poorly worded way of saying it will be restocked soon.
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>>54059106
Repackaged to include datasheets for the units inside
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>>54059106
GW are spending all their factory hours and plastic or whatever on cranking out new models and models we haven't yet seen.

So stuff that goes out of stock won't be restocked as fast I'm guessing.
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>>54059066
They're basically what the IG wanted out of it's vanquishers. I would trade out conscripts completely if we got a Vanquisher Cannon as good as your Neutron Laser.
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>>54059106
chad guard when?
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>>54059085
I blame GW for being totally incapable of defining what their abstract inventions actually allow for, even after going through THIS EXACT SAME SHIT IN AGE OF SIGMAR. They create more work for themselves by being totally incapable of conveying intent. Are English majors actually retarded?
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>>54059097
I BUILD WALL GUD! MAKE DAD PROUD! BIG WALL!
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>>54059060
More Guardsmen would die from the ensuing return fire and one more of their battle tanks sustained heavy damaged from the Traitors but the Guard would not be cowed. The Banewolf and it's chemcannon and heavy flamer wiped out a unit of Rubric Marines with lasgun support. And massed lasgun fure stripped apart a Rhino as more Rubric Marines fell.
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>>54059054
I'd go for another regular dread since you only have two.
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>>54059062
The Tyranid Prime, Broodlord, Red Terror, Genestealer Cult Patriarch, and Tervigon.

The Patriarch pretty much settles it since his ability targets "Purestrain Genestealer" units, which does not match up with any of his keywords, so it isn't a formatting mistake.

By contrast, note Drazhar in the Dark Eldar index, targets "friendly INCUBI units" and it does have INCUBI written in the keyword bolded font.
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>>54058780
>1 Mortis
Isn't the mortis just a regular dread with 2 autocannon arms?

Something that all marine dreads have been able to equip since like 4th edition.
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>>54059145
SO BIG WALL!
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>>54059085
>Don't forget to insist his ability doesn't work on Carnifexes because RAW it says "Carnifex" and no such unit exists
They are named "Carnifex" in the unit profile, that's what it's referencing.

Also I fucking play Tyranids and I run OOE, I'm not trying to deny anyone a buff, it's clear that the rules do not intend for him to hit on 2+ re-rolling 1's when he generates more attacks for every hit and only costs 140 points.
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>>54059130
>a Vanquisher Cannon as good as your Neutron Laser
That should never, ever fucking happen.
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>>54059097
>>54059145
>>54059191
>>54058643
>>54057496
what is going on
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>>54059130
Really? Neutron lasers are that good?
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>>54059174

My existing Mortis was quad lascannon and the new one will be quad heavy bolter.
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>>54059131
We already got those: They're called Millitarum Tempestus.
>Individual men are more resilient than the regulars
>Units as a whole too small and too expensive making them fragile as an army
>Ever-so-slightly over-designed models (good god that Taurox! It was so close to looking cool and they fucked it up last minute)
>Ultimately found their place as elite specialist troops, but a full army of them is rarely tenable.

If history (and current trends) are any indication, Marinelets will continue to make up the majority of the hardcore players armies, with these new units playing a supporting role.
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>>54059131

After the other elite Marine chapters (Blood Angels, Dark Angels, Space Yiffs) get Chad sculpts.

Raven Guard, Salamanders, and Imperial Fists can just use generic Ultra-chads and nobody gives a shit about White Scars.

And then of course unaligned Chaos Marines need new sculpts and probably Emperor's children.

So IG will probably get new sculpts around 10e.
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I missed it, had anyone heard anything about this?

Is it supposed to be on a hit roll of 6+ it's x2 strength? Or is the x2 strength the error? Makes no sense to double str after you've rolled to wound afaik
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Did GW do any heavy lifting or work to become the industry leader or did they mostly just luck out?
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>>54059216
Well it sure as hell shouldn't be a fucking 72" meltagun! It's like if a Firefly was outclassed at anti-tank work by the M4A2!
>>54059245
Yes! It's solid, consitant damage against even the heaviest tanks.
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>>54059282

gonna get FAQQED to on hit roll
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>>54059282
They mixed up the triggers on the weapons. The first one should be hit rolls of 6+, the second one should be wound rolls of 6+.

Compare the second one to the rules for Monstrous Rending Claws.
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>>54059282
I think it may have been pointed out before. There's definitely an error here, but I don't think we can definitively say which end the error is on.
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>>54059289
Mostly luck
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>>54059298
Fuck, with cawl giving re-rolls I guess the Neutron lasers are great
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>>54059224
U NO LIKE WALL??! U HERE-TIK!

DAAAAAAAAAD! HE NO LIKE WALL!
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>>54059197
>I'm not trying to deny anyone a buff, it's clear that the rules do not intend for him to hit on 2+ re-rolling 1's when he generates more attacks for every hit and only costs 140 points.

But he hits on a 3 when doing his actual job the unit and fluff supports: Killing vehicles with his Crushing claws, so it's balanced as he cannot reroll ones when doing this and he's ONE character it's not like you can spam him.

it's just Thyphus and the LoC again. Thyphus is better than the Lord in every way but they cost the same, but one of them is a unique character. GW clearly thinks that if you only get one of something it's okay if it's a little bit powerful for it's cost, it makes named characters feel more special

As for points that's a separate issue they can fix later, and i doubt they will since there is nothing OP about a footslogging Carnifex bullet magnet with no Invuln/FNP who can't hide behind units
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>>54059289
Luck and a huge head start on their competition.
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>>54059298
The vanquisher should be buffed but it shouldn't be as good as a fucking Neutron Laser.

There's no way janky ass Astra Militarum tech should be on par with the highest level stuff available to the faction that builds their tanks and specifically hoards all the good tech for themselves, that's just fucking stupid. It's like saying lasguns should be as good as radium carbines.
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>>54056559
>the tau player is the one with a fully painted army
The fuck?
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Any objection to me converting a primaris captain to be a plague marine squad leader?
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>>54056559
>The black guy plays Necrons


WE
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>>54059299
They really shouldn't bother with an FAQ, instead reprint the whole fucking book and refund everyone who bought the initial release.
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>>54059400

ARE

>>54059376

Guela please
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>>54059282
PLAY TESTED FOR 2 YEARS
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>>54059408
Why?
Don't you enjoy time traveling tanks?
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>>54059131
You mean catachan?
>bigger muscles than orks and marines
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>>54059417
SPACE
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>>54059457
JAM
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>>54059453
>their muscles are the equivalent of flak armor
He means the Eldar-Human hybrids.
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>>54059453
Ogrynlings?
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Is there some reason why you cant have a captain in tartaros armor but can field one in normal and cataphractii armor
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>>54059533
No model probably
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>>54059131
Vostroyans replacing Cadians when?
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>>54059549
Doesn't stop Acolytes.
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>>54059549
It would have been nice to have rules so you could at least convert one tho is all im saying
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>>54059592
>Vostroyans become the new IG standard
A E S T H E T I C
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>>54059299
>>54059304
Thanks! Makes sense to me.

Now before I hit checkout I just have to make sure I want one instead of a hierophant...
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I have a lot of expensive units, and need to finish my SM list with some less expensive ones.

Should I go with scouts, tactical marines, or bikers?
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>>54059001
There is no such thing as a "carnifex unit" the unit is called carnifexes, in fact carnifexes don't even have the CARNIFEX keyword, they have the CARNIFEXES keyword.
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>>54059662
Scouts. They're not as tough as tacs but it's easier to get them into position to screen, which is what you want for your pricier units.
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>>54059648
I have never gotten the appeal of those, they look just stupid as the royal palace guard. Im hoping we get steel legion plastic sets, because my god that would be sick.
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>>54056559
>>54059400
holy shit wait what

I know that guy

He plays at my store, he's really nice

what the fuuuuck
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>>54059648
I fucking wish.

>>54059722
HERETIC
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>>54059152
How did it end? TELL ME!?!?

What was your list, exactly? We know you got 50 conscripts and 50 infantry. I know you're also bringing 4 tanks of some sort and a banewolf. What are we missing?
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>>54059663
Late to the convo. We always played him as his aura affected himself and nobody argued otherwise. He never seemed OP.

Officially tho, he can't?
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>>54059722
Plastic Steel Legion seems more likely
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>>54059224
Rogal Trump is trying to out-china the Chines by building the best wall ever.

Don't bother, Rogal. The Russians already tried and it didn't work.
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>>54056705
>>54056852
>>54056959
>>54057126
Ah so you noticed my dark secret. This is Warmaster Leonard. Soon to do battle with the Imperium, head of his Felinid hordes.
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>>54059734
>nigger
>nice
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>>54059781
kitty looks blazed as fuck.
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>>54059808
yeah he's a cool dude. We both play at giga-bites in Marietta, GA. It's so crazy watching this video and then suddenly recognizing him. Small world I guess.
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>>54059592
never, Vostroyans need to remain speshial.
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>>54059734
tell him /tg/ found him and now he has to start collecting celestial lions or he's a racist
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>>54059808
I know you're trying to be cool and all, but this is legitimate proof that you don't go outside.
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>>54059152
so.. how did it end ?
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>>54059829
I'd take my Vostroya boys becoming mainstream just for the convenience of plastics.
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>>54056682
I need to figure out some count as arms for that shit. Scouts with Flamers plus those seem awesome.
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>>54059825
24/7. You'd think he was off in the head, but fucker is smart enough to open doors.

I'll stop posting felinids now, but did want to share this too.
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>>54059878
CAT!
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>>54059876
Well they released rules for them. I'd assume they're making a new kit...

That said, in theory, I could take mine apart and cast it for more but that's to much effort.

Let's hope they make more. It is a great piece.
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>>54059245
r48 heavy d3 s10 ap-4 dD6 treat all damage rolls of 1 or 2 made by this weapon as if you rolled a 3 instead
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Trying to get a small ork army going on the cheap.

for 1k points

HQ

Weirdboy
Weirdboy

Troops
20 boys w/ nob, big choppa
20 boys w/ nob, big choppa

Heavy,
Deff dread
Deff dread
Gorkanaut

Weirdboys jump the two boys squads up the field, dreads and the naut run forward while yelling and shooting wildly into the air.

Think it would work?
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>>54059298
The M4A2's 76mm was almost as good as the Firefly's 17pounder and didn't make the crew space far more cramped. Effectively it was better due to the fact that Tigers I and II were relatively rare compared to PzIV and Panther tanks, as well as StuG tank destroyers.
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>>54058819
>>54058702
>>54057303
I've also played at Geneva Commons, solid place to play. I had a game against GGA in the past. I'm much closer to the Downer's Grove GW though so I go there more often.

Where do you play at phoneposter thousand sons man?
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What's your favorite weapon model and why is it power scourge?
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>>54059878
kitty a cute, and we past bump limit. No worries anon, no worries.
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So how long before Faibaddon gets a new Hueg sculpt? Or are people supposed to plunk down for Magnus and a bunch of Rubricae?

I guess if they are pushing Plague Marines as training wheels Chaos they could always make a Mortarion for Guiliman to beat up on
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>>54057479
That's how mine is too
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>>54060001
....are you... implying you aren't aware Mortarion is coming out soon?

How can you be this out of touch?
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>>54060001
wewboy.
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>>54056773
I'm thinking they're going to put UM and the other chapters with no unique units besides characters along with primaris into a single codex first, then heretic astartes. Gotta sell Chads and zombies. After that probably one giant book for all Aeldari. I hope.
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>>54060008
>"CLAW BRO FIST"
>"OH GOD IT HURTS"
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>>54059760
A strict interpretation either way is nonsensical.

If it applies to the CARNIFEX keyword the only model old one eye buffs is himself and stone crusher carnifexes since Carnifexes don't have the CARNIFEX keyword, they instead have CARNIFEXES.

If it instead only applies to "carnifex unit" it doesn't apply to anything, because there is no thing called that.
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>>54060083
I'm pretty sure it's a typographical error and the affected units should be capitalized to indicate that they are keywords, since that is how every aura ability in the game works and what is called Carnifexes should have been called a "Carnifex Brood" and have both the keyword CARNIFEX and CARNIFEX BROOD. But that would actually make sense.
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>>54057989
Are you blind? Is that why you didnt read the rules? Or can you not read? Either are viable options
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>>54057484
>>54057399
>I don't know how to play
It's got tiny range on the grav, and is super expensive. Lascannons will slag it.

So will any melee specialist character.

Or quad fusion deepstriking tau commander etc etc
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>>54060028

Nah, I rarely pay attention to upcoming releases. I guess they are just going to push daemon primarchs for all the chaos factions then?

Daemon Fulgrim and Daemon Angron coming at some point I guess?
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>>54059686
Ok, I will try that.

Snipers or bolters? Bolters, I'd assume
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>>54060204
Snipers in 8E. Pick off their characters.
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>>54060216
Here is what I have so far
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>>54059826
>There's people from my local area in the thread
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>>54059754
>>54059846
Sorry everyone internet signal failed me.
As the last Rubric Marine that had broken the Guard lines fell the Imperial forces emerged victorious over the Traitor Legions. Opponent gave me the game after the Conscripts slaughtered the Rubric Marines because he knew my shooting would murder his Terminators.
And also brought:
Company Commander
Two Priests
Commissar
Chimera
Veterans with 3 plasma,lascannon and heavy flamer
Everything on my side was WYSIWYG
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>>54060353
it's a big store, and atlanta has a good gaming scene. so that doesn't surprise me.
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I'm going to be making a Sanguinary Ancient and try to make him look like a Veteran of Baal during the Tyranid attack. To do this I want to put a Nid head on top of the banner, easy enough to do. One issue I have however is I am thinking of trimming off the outside of the Death Mask and instead building a nid headdress like in pic related. However would this be considered Heresy? Also how should I equip him, Death Mask is a must.
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>>54060237

Seems like a odd list, it's got the weapons for trying to deal with horde armies but not the model count. It also lacks any significant anti-armor capacity.

Are you planning on playing mostly Aeldari? Or maybe Tau without a fuckton of suits?
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>>54056682
What are the rules for the power lifters now?
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>>54060404
I am a noob, playing units I have/like. I have assault centurions and pedro so I put in an LR to get them in close.

Termylib because I get raped by psykers

Contemptor because I need an elite that can put out a lot of shots with the AC

The apothecary is to heal centurions.

Rest I am not sure on
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R8 my list. I'm trying to go for more of a primaris/elite army who work around guilliman with the chaplain + hammernators as a deepstriking hammer to the rest of the lists anvil.

I'm worried about hordes though, the leviathan is all I've got to deal with them.
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No one should have a problem if I run my crisis suits as commanders in xv8 armor right?
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Can anyone tell me where these grav flux bombard pieces go? I've looked at a bunch of completed model pictures and don't see them.
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>>54060622
ha ha. I wouldn't play you. If you want to commander-spam you'll have to buy and paint all the commanders you want to field.
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>>54060445
I'd love any criticism on how to make an army around pedro and asscents though
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>>54060622
Guys like >>54060655 will have a problem. Your call if that's a loss.

The commander kit is XV-08 Enforcer, as opposed to the plain XV-08 of standard crisis. The model is slightly different. Outside of tourney play, it shouldn't be an issue except for a few individuals.
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>>54060622
Commanders didn't even have unique models when Tau first came out. It's fine.
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>>54058459
yeah, in my time as a TO resoving those arguments was pretty much all I did.

Facings gone is a bit of a loss, but functionally it was mainly a way for smaller guns to be able to threaten tanks, now that everything wounds on a 6 we still get that anyway.
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>>54060622
Maybe if Commanders didn't cost 160 points to insta-delete any tank or monster from deep strike.

I won't allow proxying strong models. You're gonna WYSIWYG that shit with all four fusion blasters if you expect to play it against me.
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>>54060719
Good thing I have bluestuff and can just recast the parts.
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>>54060641

Back of the leviathan's shoulders.
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>>54059342
>lasguns should be as good as radium carbines
Lasguns have 33% more range than Radium Carbines.
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Introducing the brand new chapter, 100 precent loyal to the emprah, marines valorous. What the V has a line thru it an looks suspiciously like an upside down A? Well you are wrong. They are infiltration and sabotage specialists, again 100 precent loyal. Why would you even ask that? Do you HATE astartes or something?
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>>54060719
Original commanders didn't even have a different model. What about people just using the same models for commanders they've always used?
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>>54060622
only a salty, passive-aggressive cuntbag would care about proxying crisis suits as commanders but be too much of a bitch to refuse to play against commander spam
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And I'll batrep the other game tomorrow but have you anons played any games lately?
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>>54060641
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>>54058537
>whether this is intentional, can be contended
i have a feeling it is. OOE already has +1 in his statline. getting +2 total on the character version seems a bit much.
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>>54060763
As someone who started tau in 3rd edition on release day.

I have 3 commanders that are all the original XV8's. If anyone doesn't like that, they're just a bunch of retarded hipsters.
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I don't see to see a limit on how many units transports can take anymore, does that mean that a transport can now take up any number of units inside as long as it's model capacity is not exceeded ?

For example:
>take a land raider crusader with 16 model capacity
>put in azrael (take up 1 spot)
>5 company veterans (take up 5 spots)
>5 deathwing terminators (take up 10 spots)
Is that legal now or did I miss some rule ?
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>>54060763
And originally Tervigons didn't have a separate model, they were all converted Carnifexes, but I don't bring those old outdated things to games now and expect players to be alright playing vs them when the Tervigon now has a model and is twice the size. It's called modelling for advantage and it's frowned upon.
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>>54060796
This is legal. It's also important, because there's no more joining of characters to other units, so if we had the old restriction you'd have the awkward situation of single characters requiring their own personal transports.
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>>54060777
>>54060752
huh. So why the fuck does each bombard come with 4 of them?
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>>54060818
Probably just the way they cast them.
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>>54060757
Im....not sure if this is the correct response. Is that the point?
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This is the core of my army, what else should I add?
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>>54060818

Two different versions.
You dont put all 4 on just choose two.
On the forge world website the Raven Guard Leviathan uses one of each type on the back of the shoulders.
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>>54060757
What v?
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>>54060943
exactly.
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>>54060874
A third elite choice for a legal vanguard detachment
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>>54060757
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>>54060950
No, I'm serious. I can't see anything.
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>>54060973
Its totally there.
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Just finished Ministorum Cost-Calcs:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h0hk_IdJ7fivDEjMiIpKM5yMMB8HTm64lZHuKdLZCIU/edit?usp=sharing

I'm a little concerned by how low some of the numbers are, making me think I may have made an error somewhere. I suppose the balancing factor is that the majority of these hugely green units (I'm looking at you, Death Cult Assassins) are largely melee-only units, meaning that they rely heavily on bursting things down once they've managed to close? Ministorum players, please check my numbers for anything that seems out-of-place.

Man, Death Cult Assassins are scary. Four attacks per model at 17ppm, with their AP and possible reroll.

Vanilla CSM are next up, will likely start on their damage calc tonight or tomorrow.
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>>54060951
I had the contemptor before, and it was said it was an odd choice.

What kind of 3rd should I go with?
>>
Which imperium index are custodes in?
>>
I don't understand enemy-specific abilities, like Death to the False Emperor, Quarry, or really the entirety of the GK. How do you possibly balance around that? Because ideally all armies should be at least moderately balanced against one another. Those boosts mean that either the faction is question is too powerful versus their main target, too weak versus everything else, or some combination of both.
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Is $200 too much to pay for some SoB with 3 immolators?
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I fucking hate the dreadknight models.

Would these custodes contemptors be good proxies for dreadknights?
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>>54061045
Near the back of 2, alongside SoS.
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>>54061062
How many sisters?
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How well do Admech fair against Tyranids? Are Dunecrawlers a hard counter to the bigger beasts like carnifexes?
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>entire Arbites army about to end on ebay for $100
>im broke

fuck my life
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>>54061087
Oh, one or two turds of them
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>>54061087
About 35, with an old Celestine.
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>>54061060
>or really the entirety of the GK
How so? They re-roll failed wounds in melee with daemon keywords.

And do 3 mortal wounds via smite to daemon keywords.

In exchance their smite is super fucking weak at 12" and only does 1 wound rather than the usual D3.

That's probably the least bonus GK have ever gotten against daemons.
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Please shoot me in the face. My friend has been running Aetao'Rau'Keres as a his warlord and giving him the 6+ FNP trait.

He has 27 fucking wounds and a 3++

I want to die
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Looking through the Chaos Index. Why are Slaanesh CSM killier than Khorne CSM, using Marks? I'm confused.
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>>54061095
>Arbites army
What's that? Arbites are basically police/swat how do you make an army of them?
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>>54061105
3 Immolators with 35 Sisters? What's their equipment?

You can get about 10 sisters for ~$40 or more on ebay. Immolators will go around ~$50. Unless they're old 2nd Ed. Immolators on the classic rhinos - those go for about $100.
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>>54061073
small, get the bigger one with the missile launcher on its back
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>>54061122
>forgeworld p2w shit is unfair
Wow people of color me surprised
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I have no fucking idea what I'm doing. Would this be a at-best decent list for a first time player?
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>>54061130
I don't want to get tagged for 'advertising' - but go look on ebay, its got 12 minutes left. You could use them as storm troopers I guess, but they really don't work rules wise. I just like the models and wish I could own some without paying out the ass.
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>>54061114
That's really all I meant. It's still specifically a bonus versus one faction and a weakness versus others. By definition, doesn't that mean GK is either under or overpowered in certain matchups? The only way I can see this working is if the situational bonus was specifically versus another faction that for some reason they are naturally bad against (possibly due to something like that faction having tons of a certain type of unit that the faction in question is normally bad at countering without this bonus).
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>>54061122
Does he have the model or is he a proxy-WAAC fag.
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>>54061159
It's a recast, but basically the real deal.
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>>54061135
I can say for sure that I have no idea about the Immolators. I think that there's about 4 flamers and 4 storm bolters, though.
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>>54061187
>playing against literally carcinogenic copies of p2w models
So instead of making him pay to win you're just going to die to lose?
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Anyone have the download for the new Perturabo book?
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>>54061093
You don't want to be shooting the Carnifexes. That's what the nid players want you to do.
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Get outta here

>>54061297
>>54061297
>>54061297
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>>54060995

Priest-led Arcos are likely going to be people's new gimmick unit. They hit like a freight-train and are going to crush most units in HtH unless you are talking massive Ork Choppa Mobs or Genestealer equivalents.
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>>54061219
Okay. Here's the deal. I'm gonna respond to you in next thread in detail okay?
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>>54059390
no. a marine in power armour is a marine in power armour.
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>>54061337
Alright.
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>>54061232
The resin for good recasters is non-carcinogenic.
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>>54060995
thanks chart-anon, we appreciate all the work
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>>54061473
Oh I'm sure that illegal recasters have gone through rigorous safety testing, nothing to worry about
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>>54058351

You are aware that they need to FnP against each wound, right? If I hit a 2W model with FnP with a lascannon and roll a 5, that model needs to roll 5 saves. Instant Death is gone because Damage makes it arbitrary.
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>>54061150

taurox primes with gatling are good, the best scions are probably command squads w/ 4 plasmas (hot shot volleys are actually decent too, if you just sit them in cover somewhere).

drop scions are 2 points cheaper if you make them elysians instead.

ogryns of any type aren't good, they have mobility issues... if you made auxilla officers and your opponent doesn't cry about it, they're better, but still meh. MoO isn't that good either. just take sgt harker and make your mortar teams and basilisks catachan and you'd be better off. your current command squad also isn't good. medipak generally not a good option, and deep strike flamers don't get to hit things either. you're also paying to put them on bs3+ models.

tldr: scion or elysian drop plasma commands (always fire overcharge vs 2w+ or t7+), gat primes, vultures, mortar and lascannon HWTs, sabre platforms, tarantulas, and conscripts are all bro tier, and some characters are worthwhile (21pt psyker, priest, commisar, commanders, stracken, harker, uriah).

everyone should always include a heavy bolter retributor squad too, since it'll always be able to fire twice while sitting in cover.
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>>54060622
>>54060655

8th is here and Tau still mines salt like no other
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>>54060995
>CSM
Make sure to note rerolling 1s from a Lord/Prince and/or getting +1 to hit from prescience. I have a feeling we're going to see some retarded charged (combi)plasma numbers
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>>54060995
Nice, the mathhammer on oblits and mutis should be interesting also, havoc launchers pls be good
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>>54061598
It's kinda annoying to stick Prescience since it can only be attempted once per phase.
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>>54060807
>old outdated things
They're models. They're fine. Whine about the base size if you must, then just rebase the older ones onto the big bases.

>It's called modelling for advantage
No, it's called using the same models people have had for years.

Are you a WAAC tournament-head gamist?
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>>54061637
It's still an option to consider when you're dealing with rerollable 2+ to hit overcharged plasma. It would be good to see where the most efficient placement of the buff is.
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>>54060757
I really like that blue.
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>>54060995
>DCA
>not Battle Sisters

Look at all that fucking green on our troops. Also, the numbers on the Exo pretty much confirmed my thoughts that its kinda shitty right now. Adding more randomness didn't help any.

Putting an Axe+Inferno pistol on any superior is amazingly efficient apparently, but that requires melee.
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>>54061804
Its a reflection of how strong special weapons + cheap unit cost is. Imperial guard is going to be ridiculous.
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