Age Of Sigmar General /aosg/

First for Seraphon again

Praise K'ek

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dark elves when?

ded gaem

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>>54047588
Take this you lizard-fuck

THIS SKAVEN THREAD NOW

>>54047740
>legacy army
>ever

I'm tentatively hopeful that there will be new allegiance abilities for my Dispossessed. I'd love to go back to my angry grudge dwarfs.

>>54047568
Source?

What 20 factions are these then?

Ironjawz
Pestilens
Flesh eaters
Seraphon
Fyreslayers

Are they actually going to bother giving like Brayherds, Ironweld or Clan Moulder their own shit or is this just a meme-dream?

>>54048122
>meme-dream
This there is no way to fix small armies and not made them overpowered

>>54048122
>>54048161

Exact quote from the announcement:

>The new book will cover Allegiance Abilities for the likes of Fyreslayers, Seraphon, Slaaneshi hosts, Nighthaunts and over a dozen others.

Let's not get carried away by that, we don't know an exact number.

>>54048161
That's not really true.

Moulder could use the 8th ed character sniping rules to protect packmasters and a pts reduction on the Hellpit. combine that with however they are going to "fix" Stormfiends and Mono-moulder could be pretty decent playable and not OP at all.

>>54048204
That's cool. not gonna lie i had zero faith they ever update any Legacy army. Sounds good

>>54047568
>"We wuz speez muhreenz n shieet"
More like WE WUZ HORDE N SHIEET

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>>54048122

I wouldent say that it's too far fetched to have allegiance abilities for Warherds/Brayherds.

Personally I would forgo any allegiance abilities if they just made Warherds a little more accessible to combining with other chaos factions. Right now it's almost impossible to play them at 2k points because their points don't add up right. I don't think Bullgors being normal battleline would break the fucking bank for a faction that sees almost zero play.

All I want to do is combine my Warherds with some Chaos Dwaves or Skaven artillery.

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>>54047971
>doesn't know about lizardmen
sure thing bud

>>54048386
>seraphon
>legacy army

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>>54048395
>doesn't realize seraphon is the update for lizardmen
sure thing bud

>>54048418
>>doesn't realize seraphon is the update for lizardmen
I knew what's your point? The other armies weren't updated and were turned into legacy armies, you cannot update Empire, or elves, or dwarves (probably except wood elves, bu they already half OOPed) enymore, because they didn;'t exist as one army, unlike seraphons

>>54048122
Here are my guesses:

1. Ironjawz
2. Pestilens
3. Flesh Eaters
4. Seraphon
5. Fyreslayers
6. Nighthaunt
7. Slaneeshi Hosts
8. Swifthawk Agents
9. Darkling Covens
10. Dispossessed
11. Freeguild
12. Order Serpentis
13. Phoenix Temple
14. Order Draconis
15. Clan Skryre
16. Deathlords (gives Nagash a spell lore)
17. Deathrattle
18. Spiderfang
19. Gutbusters
20. Everchosen

>>54048437
You sound like a huge faggot

>>54048418
>doesnt realize that seraphon are literally the same warscrolls as the lizardmen

Abandon this shit and move over to 40000

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>>54048437
>because they don't exist as one army
>AOS has no lore

seems to me they could write some lore making them one army and give them a battletome if they wanted to. Since the lore is so non-existent/un-established there is nothing standing in the way from a lore perspective.

from the compendiums we already have a basis for the lore for the elf factions at least, even if it is very basic. No reason it couldn't be expanded upon.

>>54048462
>You sound like a huge faggot
Because..?

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>>54048474
whynotboth.gif

>>54048484
>No reason it couldn't be expanded upon.
It's already was explanded and as result HE and DE were splited into microarmies (basically 1 infantry/cavalry unit and 1 warwagon/monster unit)

>>54048495
>damage control

>>54047824

This thread is so slow. Is whfb really this ded?

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>>54048508
>HE and DE were splited into microarmies
easy fix: update the warscrolls to give them back the HIGHBORN and EXILE keywords in addition to the micro-army keywords and use the highborn and exile allignments in the new Highborn and Exile battletomes.

No reason why that can't work but since you're just trolling I'm sure you'll find something to argue about.

>>54048497
Because aos is liquid shit

>>54048573
>give them back
>in AoS
>legacy armies
>GW
>give back
That's not how it's working
Of course we will see HGighborn and Exiles battletome, but it will be for new armies, not for legacy

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>>54048606
There is no good reason why GW couldn't give units with the Swifthawk Agent and Lion Rangers keywords an additional Highborn Keyword and then use the Highborn affiliation in making a battletome for them. Just add back the Highborn keyword to all the high elf units and bingo problem solved. They can keep the micro-army affiliations too, for whatever they are worth. Nothing has to be lost, they don't even have to admit it was a screw up to split them in the first place.

>>54048689
Why not use Highborne, Exile and Wanderer in the same way they use the Chaos God keywords?

Battletomes for the full Highborne/Exile/Wanderer groups with options for specialising into one of them. Of course you won't have a neat 3 way split like with Chaos which might be problematic.

>>54048733
>Why not use Highborne, Exile and Wanderer in the same way they use the Chaos God keywords?

Anon, that is a fantastic idea. I would love to see that happen.

>>54048596
>2 years later they are still bootyblasted about WHFB

LOOOOOOOOOOL

>>54048792
don't worry, i don't like pretend lotr games

>>54048689
>There is no good reason why GW couldn't give
Because it's contradicts to their policy?

>>54048825
>>54048596

Take your asspain back to the WHFB thread and stay there.

>>54048957
What is it you don't understand?

>>54048873
>Because it's contradicts to their policy?
Of which you have zero proof and is only a policy because you think it is? Policy implies a form of written intent, not just your conclusions by following a trend.
>>54048760
Thanks! So just for convenience sake, I've listed all the sub-factions under their sensible 'mega' keyword and it does show a problem, is that Wanderers doesn't have any sub-factions. I also listed the main focus of each faction, in an effort to create a further sense of parity.

Highborne
>Eldritch Council (magic)
>Lion Rangers (scouts)
>Order Draconis (knights)
>Swifthawk Agents (marine)
>Phoenix Temple (religion)

Exiles
>Darkling Covens (magic)
>Shadowblades (scouts)
>Order Serpentis (knights)
>Scourge Privateers (marine)
>Daughters of Khaine (religion)

Wanderers
>Wanderers

>>54048963
Oh sorry i didn't see your first shitpost, allow me to correct myself

Go back to the 40k containment thread and stay there.

>>54048979
>Of which you have zero proof and is only a policy because you think it is?
Oh come on,really, when GW returned anything back to some point since AoS launch?
They literally haveno reason to retcon their game--design decision about microarmies, since they all:
1) Unpopular
2) Have very old models (so why bother with them instead of making new one)
3) Models basically do not fit game aesthetic
4) All models are out of scale (legacy humans, elves and dwarfs smaller than AoS humans, duardins and aelfs)

>>54049018
What are you even contributing to this thread? There is nothing here

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>>54049037
>since they all:
>1) Unpopular
they aren't. They're just underpowered compared to the new releases so you don't see them represented in competitive events.
>2) Have very old models (so why bother with them instead of making new one)
But they don't the elves in particular boast some of the newest and nicest looking kits. Sisters of the thorn, Witch elves, Sky cutter just to name a few.
>3) Models basically do not fit game aesthetic
>4) All models are out of scale (legacy humans, elves and dwarfs smaller than AoS humans, duardins and aelfs)
actually no. The guy model in the pic is pretty much an exact copy of a witch elf and these are from the Silver Tower.

>>54047740

Came to ask this.

DElves or RIOT

>>54049126
>they aren't.
They are.
>Sisters of the thorn, Witch elves, Sky cutter j
>newest
Come on, they are 3-4 years old already.
>The guy model in the pic is pretty much an exact copy of a witch elf
He is much closer to Dark Eldar (ltex pants, weapon) and both of them are larger than legacy elves

>>54049187

If new DElf release you actually think they won't sell and be worth GWs time?

>>54049037
>4) All models are out of scale (legacy humans, elves and dwarfs smaller than AoS humans, duardins and aelfs)
This has never stopped GW from releasing stuff, and vastly is an immense overstatement.

Lothern Seaguard are also out of scale with Spearmen, yet they have existed alongside each other for years. In fact, the entire concept is just called scale creep.
>>54049187
If you think that 3-4 year is 'old' you are exactly what's wrong with the Nu-AoS community.

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are tomb kings part of AoE?
never played fantasy but always liked the idea of an undead egyptian army

>>54049210
>f new DElf release you actually think they won't sell
Nope of course nope, because eldar are very popular they will find their customers.

>>54049229
>Lothern Seaguard are also out of scale with Spearmen
Nope, they even used the same bases
>you are exactly what's wrong with the Nu-AoS community.
>says fantasycuck

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>>54049256
>Nope, they even used the same bases
That's your definition for scale? Cuz in that case, hardly anything is out of scale.

Also, pic related, the Spirguard is about half a head taller then the other 2 spearmen.

>>54049311
BWAAHAHAHAHAHA he unironically plays legacyshit! Look at him and laugh!
>That's your definition for scale?
Yep, legacy humans used small bases, while all new humans use bases of WoC units

>>54049311
> far left: 6' 2"
> second left: 5'11"
When will they learn?

>>54049037
>Oh come on,really, when GW returned anything back to some point since AoS launch?
Switfthawk Agents

Arguably Ardboyz and Treelords being repurposed for new factions

>>54049386
>Never
>>54049352
Ah you're just a retard, cool.

>>54049231
Yes

They dont make the models any more (because theyre dumb) but the models have rules and points and are legal to play. Theyre one of the best armies in the game

>>54049396
>Switfthawk Agents
You mean..?
>Arguably Ardboyz
yep, they were added to new release.
>Treelords
Was part of sylvaneth army since the launch.

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>>54049187
>He is much closer to Dark Eldar (ltex pants, weapon) and both of them are larger than legacy elves

can you spot the Tenebrael Shard? There are three in this picture.

>>54049490
>can you spot the Tenebrael Shard?
Easily, they are much bigger than witches (and so their bases)

>>54049535
>they are much bigger than witches
having painted 30 witches and 3 shards I can tell you they are the same size and scale. The only difference is that the shard is male and so has male proportions.

>>54049429
>You mean..?
Seaguard, Prince on Griffon, and Reavers were cut from production and now they are back with updated warscrolls

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>>54049490
flat paintjob hides all differences between designs
Also, thin your paints

>>54049617
>now they are back
Nope they just repackaged old starters from their stocks.

>>54049641
They were cut from production, not included in GA:Order, and were in the Compendium section of the GHB, along with a lot of other models that were cut in similar fashion.

Now they are back in production with updated warscrolls, new keywords, new point values, and even a matched play legal battalion.

For all intents and purposes they were cut, and now returned.

>>54049706
>not included in GA:Order
>>Switfthawk Agents
wut?
>Now they are back in production
proof?
>, new keywords, new point values, and even a matched play legal battalion.
just like all legacy armies

>>54047568
Did GW ever actually put out exactly how you're intended to run a multi-player skirmish campaign? My local GW store was supposed to have a Skirmish campaign and has a big poster style campaign standing sheet up on the wall with places for 20 players but the book itself does not actually explain how to play a campaign with more than 2 people and the store manager was given no guidance about how to manage a campaign in this manner.

GW went through the effort to produce a store activity package for skirmish but don't seem to have actually told anyone how to use it.

>>54049748
>>54049604
>>54049490
>>54049429

Just stop talking to this guy. He's either the retard Slav guy, back to haunt us, or some other mongoloid.

He wants proof while never providing anything himself, Has idiosyncratic definitions for most common terms and is completly asinine in his argumentation

>>54049846
>He wants proof while never providing anything himself,
What kind of proofs do you want?

>>54049841
In the GBH there are some multiplayer scenarios, you have to roll for initiative at the start of the round, then the player with the highest score takes his turn, then the remaining players roll again, etc. Also make sure to roll for random table sides. It's not that hard to make it work yourself I think. Only thing that might be tricky is defining a winner and a loser.

>>54049866
The problem is the campaign, not games. The campaign has a 6 scenario linear progression and only supports 2 players.

>>54048474
>Abandon this shit and move over to this other shit

>>54049490
Do you know what a wash is?

>>54049936
Still better shit than age of shitmar

>>54049861
Proof of your nonsense chitchat faggot

>>54050017
>Proof of your nonsense chitchat
You mean..?

>>54049846
hey now hold on... I posted these >>54049490
>>54049604 and have been arguing with this guy >>54049748 >>54049429

feel free to hate me for my own lack of skill at painting and fondness for elves but don't lump me in with that guy.

>>54049861
Prove me that shards' bases and witches' bases are of same size.

>>54050071
Uhh, no, i wanted proof of idiosyncrasy

>>54050071
>he wants a 6 wound model on the same base as 1 wound model

you sure you aren't brain damaged?

>>54049490
Please wash them. I know you said some shit how you don't have enough time to improve but it takes like half and hour to use agrax earthshade on that amount of models maybe even less time.

This thread is a wreck. Is this reminding of the status of this game to anyone else? Seriously, what the fuck is this

>>54050106
Probably not. I think a large amount of AoS player are also 40k player.

>>54049898
Do matched play games until you reach a predetermined amount of VP? Like a tournament basically?

Also, if the battleplans are not the problem, what is? Cuz they are basically all there is to the Skirmish campaign, mind you optimizing the Skirmish battleplans needs some work since they are built are 2 sides fighting. Guess it depends on how even the Warbands are as well, which is quite random

>>54050055
In your defense, you might be an insufferable autist, but you're still better than that other guy. You can take that as an compliment

>>54049490
This looks like shit, are you twelve?

I've been playing this for a little less than 2 years now, started 6 armies, literally all but the last one are legacy armies.

>>54049968
>Do you know what a wash is?
>>54050103
>Please wash them.

I won't wash the hair and skin again. I know you don't think I did but I swear to you I did. I also washed the weapons with gloss nuln oil. What they really need is some edge highlights. Also a wash on their red parts like the Shards and the Cauldron girls already have.

I make no promises but next week it looks like I might have some spare time in the evenings to take another pass at these and make some improvement.

>>54050071
>shards' bases and witches' bases are of same size.
I never claimed it

>>54050145
The materials that were actually provided indicate that you're supposed to gain renown and shit.

If it was just a case of making up some shit it wouldn't be any kind of problem. I was interested to know if anyone had figured out how games workshop intended the materials they provided to their stores to be used.

>>54050095
>>he wants a 6 wound model on the same base as 1 wound model
If ithese models are the same scale why not?

>>54049231
we wuz tomb kangs and sheit

>>54050095
>>54050220
"Oh look, I didn't specifically say anything about bases, just made a general statement and now you're putting words in my mouth, ho-ho-ho!"

>>54050282
>"Oh look, I didn't specifically say anything about bases, just made a general statement and now you're putting words in my mouth, ho-ho-ho!"
Anon, I've said totally opposite about their bases.

>>54050256
You do understand that a liberator and a Dracoth are both in the same scale right? If not maybe you should stop posting on an English forum.

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>>54050303
You didn't.

>>54050326
>You do understand that a liberator and a Dracoth are both in the same scale right?
Different types of units (infantry and monster cavalry). while Shard and witches both are elven infantry

>>54050347
It's not me you idiot.

>>54050361
if it wasn't for the fact that you're supposed to put them on the size of base they are packaged with I would have put the shards on the same size bases as the witches because the shards look silly on such huge bases.

>>54050440
>you're supposed to put them on the size of base they are packaged with
Which mean they are larger than legacy elves.

>>54050463
>Which mean they are larger than legacy elves.
I can tell you based on the fact that I own and painted them >>54049490 that they aren't different size. That's why the Shards look silly on such big bases.

>>54050347
Ok I'm sorry; i admit i was mistaken. No need to be such a cornhole about it, you sperg

>>54050515
But you're wrong, I don't trust the shit you say

>>54050381
I don't know who this is, falsefag

>>54049841
My GW is doing a skirmish campaign now with maybe 15-20 players. We are playing the six missions from the book in order, but the 7th week will be something else the manager is devising. We ignore the conditions dependent on the previous game. The way we play, you can play any number of games on campaign day, but only one result can count and gets marked on the board. So after each game, you note down your results (major/minor victory, draw, loss) and roll on the table for spoils of war. If you don't like your results, you can find someone to play again. At the end if the day you submit your favorite result to the manager. Major victory, minor victory, draw, and loss are each worth a certain number of points. I'm not sure how he will handle ties if they come up.

>>54049999
woah damn nice pun ive never heard that one before!!!! epic post *brofist*

>>54050981
What are you, twelve?

Nice thread!

I love the Grand Alliance: Death! Are we getting some upcoming battletomes or new models?

>>54052464
No. Game is ded

anyone got any we wuz khorne and shit models?

>>54053424
No.

>>54053446
was that really needed?

>>54053478
No.

>>54053519
fair enough. so like what army you working on right now?

Tenebral shard with 5 assassin's hiding on him, teleport into combat on your turn and strike first with 6 characters!
Would it be good?

>>54053856
Not really, your enemy can just deny you melee range on anything that matters with a simple screen

You have low rend so youll be stopped by a simple wall unit like Liberators or Saurus Guard

>>54053856
yes as long as you do more then base paint them

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>>54053889
>deny you melee range on anything that matters with a simple screen
>within 3 inches

that's going to have to be a tight screen.

What's the consensus on KO as an army? Op as fuck and no fun to play against or they cool?

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>>54054842
power armor, chain-swords, and assault canons. what's not to love?

>>54054842
I personally don't like fighting the KO, but that's because I'm not a fan of facing anything with lots of range. Can't say if they're op or not since i've only fought them at 1k, but at that level they seem alright.

>>54055394
>>54055402

Good to hear! Picked up a few of 'em and I'm loving the theme they got going on. Not as good looking as Ironbreakers but they'll do until they HOPEFULLY get something in GHB2

So I really like Archaon and the Varanguard sculpts, but have very little experience with AoS.

Are they fun to play/play against? About how much makes an army?
What is the average points level you anons play at?

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>>54047568
Soon

>>54059279
>Soon
Never

>>54048454
>1. Ironjawz
>2. Pestilens
>3. Flesh Eaters
>4. Seraphon
>5. Fyreslayers
>6. Nighthaunt
>7. Slaneeshi Hosts
>15. Clan Skryre
>16. Deathlords (gives Nagash a spell lore)
>17. Deathrattle
yep
>9. Darkling Covens
>10. Dispossessed
>11. Freeguild
>12. Order Serpentis
>13. Phoenix Temple
>14. Order Draconis
>18. Spiderfang
>19. Gutbusters
nope

Hey so I played my first few skirmish games today. My warband started off with one grot shaman, a fellwater troggoth, a moonclan netter and a gitmob champion. First game was against stormcast and boy did it hurt. I dealt a considerable five wounds, three on his leader and two on the retributor accompanying him, but the judicator and liberator made it impossible even with my rerolls for being the under dog. The troggoth whiffed all his attacks and was promptly wrecked. All in all though it was fun. Did a full three wounds with troggoth vomit. If I had just put it on a different target I would have at least killed something. The guys I played with suggested taking ogors and maxing out on troggoths.

>>54050103
honestly I'd use seraphim sepia on those colors...esp the skin but it would probably do on the red too

What is the closest I could get to re making a Zombie Pirates of the Vampire Coast army in AoS

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>>54062558
The one with the Coat look like a pirate captain.

>>54061610
Freeguilds, disposessed, spiderfang and gutbusters are likely since they're all complete armies.
Also Moonclan are ABSURDLY likely since they have an absurd amount of units for a faction with no updates. grots, squig riders, squigs, squig herders, manglers, shamans and the two bosses

>>54062558
Just make a death army with a pirate theme? Like, there's no big sea beastie in death, but there's also nothing stopping you

>>54063305
I wouldent say Spiderfang have a complete army so much as they have one really good thing that they do really well and that allows them to be viable. If you think about it they're about as viable as Phoenix Temple in terms of unit diversity except Spiders have a better gimmick.

>>54063550
They have a leader, a wizard, a monster and battleline. Granted two of those are the same thing, but they've done more with less

>>54063305
>they're all complete armies.
Complete legacy armies
Also
>Freeguilds
>complete
Also2, NG was squatted, so most likely no moonclan without proper release

Order: Dumb idiots
Chaos: Retards
Destruction: Braindead
Death: People who are intelligent, nihilistic with a wicked sense of humour

>>54062230
Sepia is yellow and imo not a great wash for flesh, might look very 'jaundiced'

>>54063907
So edgy fedora tippers? In that case I'd rather be retarded

so do you think we'll ever get another Valten model in AoS?

Stormcast doesn't really have any character models asides from vandus, so maybe Valten would be a cool choice, as "Sigmars Champion" or something

>>54064030
Nope
Back to your general fantasycuck

Will whfb-tards ever get tired of false flagging against legacy armies itt? No I won't come back to this cancerous dead game, aos doesn't hat me. kys asap.

>>54064030
I can imagine a sce hero that is a hommage to Valten in some way or another, but not exactly him.

I'm in an escalation league, my first time playing AoS. Here's my current plan for my Nurgle army, any advice?

500 points:
Lord of Chaos
10 Warriors
5 Knights

1000 points:
Lord of Chaos
Chaos Sorcerer Lord
20 Warriors
10 Plaguebearers
5 Knights
Chariot

1500 points:
Lord of Chaos
Sorcerer of Chaos
Herald of Nurgle
20 Warriors
30 Plaguebearers
5 Knights
3 Plague Drones
1 Chariot

2000 points:
Lord of Chaos
Herald of Nurgle
Lord of Plagues
30 Plaguebearers
3 Plague Drones
5 Putrid Blightkings
1 Chariot

Godsworn Champions of Ruin
Daemon Prince
Chaos Sorcerer Lord
20 Warriors
5 Knights

>>54064209
>Will whfb-tards ever get tired of false flagging against legacy armies itt?
You mean..?

>>54064663
he thinks that all the shitposting about Legacy armies is being done by WHFB fans to make people insecure towards AoS.

>>54048386
>Lizardmen
They're clearly called Seraphon you dummy.

>>54064709
>shitposting about Legacy armies is being done by WHFB fans
I was only one who give anon advices about legacy armies and I never played WHFB.
Besides:
1) All WHFB armies now looks like manlets
2) They do not fit AoS setting
3) They do not belong to AoS setting (they literally called LEGACY armies, which implies they are from old world, not from Mortal Realms)

I've been interested in getting to try the game and was thinking about starting a little army but this thread might have managed to turn me off the idea. I'l be back in a few years to see if it's gotten any better.

>>54064906
What army do you think to pick?

>>54047568
Porting 40k 8ed rules to AoS when? GW can't fix this game soon enough!!!

>>54064936
The game is already nice

>>54064842
This.

>>54064906
So yeah if you want to play AoS play an AoS army. Fantasy is dead and to say otherwise is just stuipid.

Als those WHFB oldfags will eventully simply die out. No one starts Warhammer Fantasy or 9th Age or whatever.

The good thing is thqat when you choose a proper AoS army they all are fairly good baalanced and you will have a fun time.

>>54064947
Anon please, this game feel like it's still on development phase, it's fucking far from nice.

>>54065010
Fuck off 40kkid

>>54064842
1) All WHFB armies now looks like manlets
>Hot opinion there
2) They do not fit AoS setting
>Your opinion, again. GW uses them in their new setting.
3) They do not belong to AoS setting (they literally called LEGACY armies, which implies they are from old world, not from Mortal Realms)
>GW doesn't call them legacy armies

This is all bullshit, a lot of your opinions but no facts.

>>54065016
>40k
>played by kids
Yeah ...no

>>54065018
>. GW uses them in their new setting.
Nope, they didn't.
>>GW doesn't call them legacy armies
They've marked as legacy, besides all oder mortals are from Azyrheim.

>>54065016
>implying AoS isn't the one swarming with kids since it's a cereal box tier tabletop game
Anon please

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>>54065050
>>played by kids
>Yeah ...no

>>54065061
>Blond girl
>Black guy

100% representation of the 40k community!

>>54065053
>Nope, they didn't.
You don't read the campaign books or novels do you?
>They've marked as legacy, besides all oder mortals are from Azyrheim.
Marked where? Source that claim?
>>54065061
>>54065075
Are we still whining about the marketing photos they've used to sell Warhammer at TOY STORES?

This threads are 70% old Fantasy faggots and 40k idiots shitposting.

Why can't you just leave us alone instead of this perma bullying?

>>54065255
>You don't read the campaign books or novels do you?
Not a single direct mention of old armies, just average humans, aelfs etc.
>Marked where? Source that claim?
All books about rules and armies.

>>54065281
>Not a single direct mention of old armies, just average humans, aelfs etc.
Except the moment where Freeguild captain is a protagonist in a novel, and the other characters are a Witch Hunter and a Fleetmaster? Or is that not 'legacy' enough for you?
>All books about rules and armies.
Please tell me the exact page where they use the term 'legacy'
>>54065271
Cuz we will still have idiots like
>>54065281
>>54065053
>>54064842

>>54065298
>Freeguild captain
So what? Average army officer.
>Witch Hunter and a Fleetmaster?
so what? of course they have some kind of inquisition.
>Or is that not 'legacy' enough for you?
There is nothing about legacy armies

>>54047568
Cancer OP desu

>>54065609
But they really looks like nobs with megaarmor

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>Just want to play a Vampire army
>Grave Guard aren't troops for them
>Blood Knight are still overpriced Fineshit
I just want to make best boy happy

>>54066117
He is dead

>>54066123
I'd fluff it as such with my army
>Vlad is basically the Vampire God
>Mannlet is the Lucy
>The Vamp Clan hate that he's weaselled himself into Mortarch-hood, while Vlad should be looked up to because he ruled "fairly" and died for his waifu
>That faggot Konrad would be origin of the Blood Knight cult that springs up when Vamps get too hungry for war
It's all there but GW sucks

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>>54063907
>intelligent, nihilistic
It's cute that you think these two are related

Sort yourself out bucko

>>54066175
>but GW sucks
They not.
>It's all there
Who the fuck needs WHFB characters after "countless milenia" (citation from WD) between ET and Age of Creation?

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>>54066194
>The Universe has no inherient meaning but i'll do what i believe in
JBP is a great base for Egoism/Existentialism

What do you think the Battle Trait will be for the confirmed factions in GHB2?

I'm hoping Seraphon get the old WHFB ability where if a Saurus rolls a 6+ to hit you generate another attack.

>>54066214
You have those old WHF characters as myths or Archtypes. Like Achilles/Gilgamesh/Hercules etc

>>54066223
>as myths or Archtypes.
Only incarnates, but they are literally gods now

>>54066123
he has always been dead for you idiot, he's a vampire.
>Who the fuck needs WHFB characters after "countless milenia" (citation from WD) between ET and Age of Creation?
REEEEEEEEEEEEE YOU CANNOT LIKE ANYTHING FROM FANTASY

>>54049187
Ain't the first stormcast eternal release gonna be three years old soon?

>>54066499
Stormcast were first released in 2015

>>54063907
Order: had a recent release
Chaos: had a recent release
Destruction: had a recent release
Death: haven't had a recent release

>>54066552
So they will be considered old by that anon in a year.

>>54066589
OLD AND NOT RELEVANT. STORMCAST ARE NOW LEGACY ARMY

>>54066598
Stormcats eternals more like snorecast eternals cause there so old.

Anyone know what the best character for gore chosen is?

>>54066705
I know right? And they don't fit the scale or the style of the new releases either. AoS is magitek and cool missile weapons, not boring Paladins in golden armor. Those cucks don't even have transports!

>>54066785
>AoS is magitek and cool missile weapons
So just like their last release in 2017
Sorry fantasycuck, but only your army outdated shit

>>54066798
You mean their last release forever? Game is fcking ded scrub, at least fantasycucks can accept that. AoS was just a beta test for 40k, and now the real game will be the main course for the rest of the year.

>>54066839
>You mean their last release forever?
>source:my blasted ass

>>54066839
It's been two years. Go bother someone else.

>>54055394
>what's not to love?

the robohats and robobeards :(

>>54066785
Yeah. Skaven in power armour when?

>>54066967
Stormfiends?

>>54067020
Yeh but like stormfied stormfieds. Like stormfieds but better

>>54066967
>>54067020
>>54067041
Skryre skaven who use massive underground/interdimensional tunneling robot transports sound pretty cool to me. New acolyte miniatures who are like Skaven Arkanauts and voila, another masterpiece of a faction.

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>"I hate SE"
>"cool, me too"
>"they should add more fantasy imperial guard characters such as karl franz"
>

>>54067185
Stormcasts are not-shit Space Marines.

Hahaha.
In my town whole wfb community run to 9th age. Now there are like 10tryhards in there and on tournaments it goes up to 20-24......

AoS got bashed by them every single moment. Now I would love to play some Everchosen and Slave to Darkness. Closest games 300km.

Feelfuckingbadman

>>54067615
>thing that never happened

>>54067727
Hahaha sure. If u think so

>>54067742
>>54067615
>that diction
>that content
Sure is summer in here.

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Any imput on my color scheme before I start my shading and higjlighting? The primer went on to a couple gold spots weirdly and made it a little rough so i might see what some nik. oxide looks like on it.

>>54069509
Input*
It was a fat finger mistake not a vocabulary issue.

>>54069509
messy edges and thick paint. The colors look familiar... see here >>54049490
for better example of tight edges and thin paint.

>>54069509

Looks good to me. Just drybrush the reds with stormhost or something to give it a worn feel!

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why do I want this model so badly?

>>54069509
Decent enough. Though I wonder if a dark green wouldn't be better than that dark blue.

>>54070151
Because of bad taste?

>>54070065
do you mean just around the edges of the armor or all over? i want to get better at the battleworn look but I like clean too haha.

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>>54047568
Hey I have a question for you people

I'm looking for Stormcast Extremis: I know it exists, I've seen a picture of a battletome for it, but it looks like it's beem completely expunged from GW's website and nowhere can I find an actual book for it, and there's no mention of it being removed or changed anywhere.

So what happened to the Extremis? Are they just rolled back into vanilla Stormcasts now?

>>54070165
I originally used caliban and it just seemed a little odd, my white aether tubes are going to be blue as well but i originally was leaning green.

>>54070215
messy dry-brush always looks like ass. You'll be way better off with tight clean lines and smooth thin high-lights.

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>>54070232
>>54070165
Example pic.

>>54070227
>So what happened to the Extremis? Are they just rolled back into vanilla Stormcasts now?
The two Stormcast battletomes were merged together into a single book, along with the new Vanguard stuff.

Why are you interested in that book specifically?

>>54070282
I'm looking to get into this game eventually and I was wondering if the two were full on seperate armies that I'd have to choose between.

>>54070227
They were just a bunch of new models for stormacasts, and been merged in one book, presumably to boost the ease of buying into them (same as packing 10 instead of 5 libs and justcators)

>>54070357
Nope its all just one faction called Stormcast Eternals

You can still play Extremis Chamber if you want, but you'll need some kind of battleline (troop) choice for matched play

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>>54066219
As nice as that would be, I feel like Serapho have to many reroll chances as it is now. What they could use would be more pluses to hit/wound. At least I think. Also, the SV on Carno's command ability would become trash. Personally, I like to see some Mortal Wounds resistance. I'm tired of having my guards evaporate yo mortal wounds.

Semi related: I'm painting a Carnosaur like this. Good or bad idea?

>>54070453
>Also, the SV on Carno's command ability would become trash.
They would stack, obviously

>I'm tired of having my guards evaporate yo mortal wounds.
Get used to it, that's not ever going to change

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I have two friends willing to start playing AoS. My LGS still has two SoD boxes so they are thinking about buying them and splitting up the cost. Would it work as a good base for Skaven and Aelves armies?

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>lion face
>anvil

Its stormcast, right?

>>54070956
>Its stormcast, right?
yep. Lion riding SC chamber confirmed as the next AOS release that no one wanted and no one asked for.

>>54071171
I actually wanted this and secretly hoped we would be getting it for a long time :3

I doubt its lion cavalry though. The anvil makes me think of some kind of super heavy armor, or some kind of Blacksmith hero?

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>>54071235
>I actually wanted this and secretly hoped we would be getting it for a long time :3
well at least one person will be happy. Good for you bud.

its not like there isn't an entire lion themed faction that could use some attention or anything

>>54071171
>Lion riding SC chamber confirmed as the next AOS release
Source: My Ass

>>54070956
hope not. mainly because other factions need releases as well and they would of then had two updates while other factions haven't had any

would people hate aos as much if they didn't blow up the old world? personally i think people wouldn't hate it as much. just look at 40k, the general thoughts on that is its an improvement on the rules, Don't know about the lore tho, heard it's a bit off but idk.

>>54072014
I think the End Times was a brilliant sendoff to the WHFB world. Much more than it deserved.

Just ignore shitty grognards, their opinions don't matter

>>54072073
yeah. only problem is your can't mention aos without getting flooded by grognards saying shit like "EW YOUR PLAY AGE OF SHITMAR EWW". Like i just wanna have a nice convorsation without some faggot getting assblasted by the mere mention of it.

>>54072014
>would people hate aos as much if they didn't blow up the old world?
People liked the Old World because they have wasted a lot of cash and time on it but it was still a piece of shit desu. Just a mix of rip-off themes and nothing more

>>54072154
So? Ignore them

Who cares what they have to say? You don't have to listen to that shit

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>>54070956
looks an awful lot like the liberator prime shoulder pad.

It sucks that if you post in this thread saying you are curious about AoS and want to try out the game using some old WHFB minis then you get shouted about for being a "legacyshitter". What the fuck is up with that autism? Why did GW release warscrolls for all the stuff then?

>>54072717
>What the fuck is up with that autism?
Just ignore it. It's the same kind of autism that you see in 40kg whenever people mention Power Level

There's nothing wrong with legacy armies. TK are top tier.

Lore question; has a human force ever managed to convince a LoC to fight for their side against another chaos god?

Like, has a khorne/nurgle/slaanesh force ever came to invade a place, and the people being invaded manage to convince a LoC and his host to help them? I mean they're Lords of CHANGE, so I figured tzeentch helping some humans fuck up other chaos gods might fall under something they'd do, for the sake of unexpectedness

>>54073067
Yes, but there will always be a sinister price for it.

>>54073067
I dont know of any canonical time it has happened, but I dont see why this would be impossible.

I just fought against this 1k list with my slaves to darkness. How would you fight a list like this?

Arch Warlock
Stormfiends
Skyre Acolytes
Ratling Gun Team
Warp Thrower
Warp Lightning Cannon
Warp Lightning Cannon

>>54073285
>SoD

Kek

>>54071384
>faction
It's two units anon

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>>54073285
>How would you fight a list like this?
with this formation. Gotta admit I am super tempted to do a Khorne army just to run this formation.

>>54071235
Concrete proof that stormshitter players have autism

>>54073470
SoD is the base, at 2000 I'm adding in a bunch of nurgle daemons and putrid blightkings.

>>54073533
Just tell them they don't have any battle lines and watch them walk away sadly

>>54073285
lots of warriors and things that can stop the mortal wounds
Maybe your own cannons or things that can get into melee quick like knights.

>>54073552
Why not just go full nurgle then with pestilens and daemons too, and just add in SoD as point fillers. There's no need for 1k points of trash.

>>54073552
use glottkin command ability on warriors and shieeeet

>>54073534
Yup that's definitely proof of autism, good job bucko

>>54064277
Might be worth 60 pts for chaos spawn summon on death of lord

>>54073572
nah, just pull out three units of bloodletters for maximum fun times.

>>54073594
So the SoD component is a chaos lord, a sorcerer lord, 20 warriors, 5 knights, and a chariot. The rest of the list is going to be daemons and rotbringers. To get to 1000 the list has 10 plaguebearers which were super annoying for him to deal with.

>>54073580
Yeah my warriors held up better than most would, but you can only make so many 5+ saves. Both cannons rolled 1s on his third turn and killed 5 warriors.

>>54073679
That's a good idea, yeah. Should I drop the battalion for that?

>>54066565
Idk skirmish saw them release mat and terrain

>>54073706
>Both cannons rolled 1s on his third turn

Sounds like some crazy luck

You need something fast that can go kill those cannons before they get 2+ rounds of shooting at you.

Stormfiends do a lot of damage but their range is short and they're pretty slow. Use this to your advantage and measure threat ranges appropriately, you should be able to charge them before they can shoot you.

>>54073706
We'll I think you just answered your question on how to deal with his list

>>54070835
Cant speak for aelfs.. But skaven is solid.. Two boxes with battalions to match, verminlord deceiver and warpgrinder is 2500 pts

>>54073706
Get a harbinger of decay and a chaos sorcerer for the warriors and take A TON of them

-Chaos Warriors get buffed up with Daemonic Power from the Sorc (reroll 1s to hit, wounds, and SAVES) so you get to reroll the mortal wounds on a 1
-Battleshock immunity from the Crown of Conquest,
-ANOTHER 5+ ward from the Harbinger (who is ideally safe in your back line).

So you get 5+ ignore mortal wounds from the warriors, then you get to reroll 1's for the saves, then you get ANOTHER 5+ against Mortal Wounds from the Harnigger of Decay, then you get to ignore battleshock as well

>>54073899
In bigger games steal Tom's list with Belakor and a plague touched warband:
"The real magic of this combo comes from two things. First, the Warriors are -2 to hit in melee that entire first combat turn (-1 from plague touched, -1 from cunning deceiver). Even the best units will struggle to put significant wounds on a 3+ (reroll 1s), 5++, 5++ (against mortal wounds only) unit when they have a -2 to hit that unit.

Secondly, and more importantly, when you deploy in multiples of 7 with this battalion, every time the enemy rolls a 6+ to wound that unit in the Combat phase, the attacking enemy unit takes a mortal wound back. Now, since this is triggering on their wound roll of 6+, I can still negate the actual damage with all the Warrior's defenses while still kicking back mortal wounds as the enemy grinds on the Chaos Warriors. This is doubly (or even triply)effective against Tomb Kings, Pestilens, and Destruction Battle Brew/Wild Fury who are bringing their own bonuses to wound, since it causes the mortal wounds to trigger more frequently (as my 4th opponent so painfully discovered with his double Stonehorns). Once you have the front line locked, if they don't have movement shenanigans, you can pull models from anywhere in the line and break coherency(as long as you aren't going to pile in at all). There were points where I had a single chaos warrior back in back field (to receive buffs), with the next closest Chaos warrior in his unit 24 inches away grinding on the remains of their front line. If I ever needed to reform, I could cast Sayl fly on the back warrior and retreat the unit with an 18" fly move back into coherency. "

>>54073899
Their shield isn't a save, mortal wounds ignore saves. So you don't reroll 1s vs mortal wounds.

>>54070835
>Would it work as a good base for Skaven and Aelves armies?

sorry to break it to you but the SoD is junk for Aelves.

>>54070453
>>54070568
should have like a 6+ save for mortal wounds. idk something to do with their skin

>>54073987
Well, that's bad. Is there any way to improve it somehow? Like expanding the spireguard units to 20 models per unit or buying a skycutters? It would be nice to have 2 more players in my area so I don't really want to let any of them drop the idea of start playing AoS desu
It would be so much easier if she would like to play Sylvaneth like all other females tho

Eyo general,

there a chance i might be playing a 2k points game tommorow (uk time) and i was wondering if you guys were willing to rate my list.

Gore pilgrims:
Bloodsecrator
Axe priest
ball n chain priest
10 blood warriors
10 blood warriors

Skulltake:
Bloodstoker with burning blood talisman
3 khorgoraths
5 skullreapers
5 skullreapers
20 blood reavers
20 blood reavers

Other:
Aspiring deathbringer (newer one)
Skullgrinder general with disciple of khorne and destroyer mark


The general with the same gear can be interchangeable with both the skullgrinder and aspiring deathbringer

I just want the fantasy of either having a 10 attack skullgrinder hitting on 2+ wound 2+ and doing crazy damage. Or having the aspiring deathbringer with 48 attacks.

other than that (and the fact that i love khorgoraths) i am welcome for other ideas for my list. The only thing i worry about is that i dont have enough big things and i might put a bloodthirster in there.

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>>54074500
>Like expanding the spireguard units to 20 models per unit or buying a skycutters?
I wish that would work but it wouldn't. Skycutters and Spire Guard are both poor performers due to their cripplingly high points costs.

cheapest way to add some kick to the start collecting box is to add this guy. It won't make the list an instant winner, but it will turn up the power level from a 3/10 to a solid 6/10.

>>54070956

That's a "Primaris Stormcast Eternal" shoulder pad. They're bigger and better than regular Stormcast.

hi lads
we've got a discord going that some of you might already be in
we could use some more AOS representation in there if you feel like hanging out with some mostly cool dudes

>>54074767
forgot the link like a fool
https://discord.gg/zTb37A

>>54074786
instantly joined, because of 40k release no one in store is in an aos mood, tis lonely.

>>54074843
yeah it's a dry period right now

>>54074718
>add this guy
I think it's gonna be problematic. Reavers are the only unit that can work as a battleline for EC/SA army. If I use something that is not included in Guardians of the Dawnspire Battalion then I will lose the SA Allegiance

>>54074906
just dump the SA allegiance and use the Spire Guard as high elf spearmen for battleline. SA isn't worth anything anyways.

>>54070185
found the aos-cuck

>>54074998
I forgot that you can still use the old warscrolls. It shouldn't be a problem for casual games actually. Fuck, I'm happy that I picked IJ as my first army

Can someone compare Khorne in AOS to Khorne in 40k?

Do human-aelf offspring exist in AoS?
I know they exist in 40k despite making no sense whatsoever

>>54076430
Better in AoS because everything wounds them on 4+ rather than 3+ and making take 12 saves on a 6+ and d3 wounds per failed save.
Also no necrons or tau.

>>54070956

Stormcast dwarfs??

>>54076725
That's what I'm kinda wondering too.

>>54076725
Weren't the Kharadrons enough?

Any thoughts on the Hellcannon? Was thinking of getting one for my nurgle army.

>>54077292
seriously
WHFB: Dwarves is 1 army
AOS: Dwarves get 2 full release brand new armies

meanwhile zero love for death and others.

>>54076725
Doubtful

The anvil probably represents the Anvil of Apotheosis that is used to reshape the forms of all stormcast

>>54077327
Dwarves was two armies, one was just forgeworld only.

>>54074500
>Well, that's bad. Is there any way to improve it somehow?
>legacy army
>improve
YOu doing it wrong anon.

How many armies got squatted (or reduced to "legacy" status)?

I think I might be addicted to Hinterlands.

>>54070835
>Would it work as a good base for Skaven and Aelves armies?
Noipe and you should't invest into outdated armies. Take gates of Azyr it's much better

>>54070151
It has character. You know it's a Warhammer mini at a glance.

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Can I get a first contact mission rating?

>>54078519

I give it 5/7

>>54077349

So do you think it might be a hero character then?

Noob question; If I play a Tzeentch Daemon Allegiance, would my wizards be able to summon in bloodletters without breaking my allegiance, since they technically aren't a part of the list?

Can northeast be used in skirmish? I know some relatively elite things can.

>>54079386
As far as I know, yes. Allegiance is at set up, I swear I remember reading something somewhere that mentioned summoning after the fact doesn't break it.

>>54079761
I mean morghast ducking autocorrect.

>>54048474
No. I hate the Stargate setting in AOS, but I prefer an almost fantasy setting to a complete science fiction setting.

>>54080805
>40k
>complete science fiction setting.

>>54080805
>No. I hate the Stargate setting in AOS,
You have to back fantasycuck

>>54079761
>>54080639
Nope.

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>>54080999
>aos player calling anyone a cuck

>>54081031
>fantasycuck projecting

>>54049352
are you 12?

>>54074300
Maybe summoned lizzes have that..

>>54081057
You're paying gw to do their beta testing. No amount of calling out boogiemen will aid you.

>>54081329
Still better then being assmad about them discontinuing a product you haven't bought for years

Does anyone remember why people though Bretonnians were going to be a themed vampire counts faction in AOS when it first came out?

>>54077712
Legacy status is meme invented by that retarded 12 year old

>>54077712
>How many armies got squatted (or reduced to "legacy" status)?
All of them except lizards, daemons and skavens

>>54081395
One of the early books or something had a death army with bret heraldry and icons and shit

>>54082681
And bonesplittaz, and flesh eaters, and beastclaws...

>>54082771
Literally 2 boxes, not armies.

>>54081345
>you haven't bought for years
That's why AoS right now on the same position as WFB was in 2013?

>>54082787
They still managed to make it work. Especially for the beastclaws

>>54082848
>They still managed to make it work.
Yep, but still most of O&G army is squatted

>>54082876
O&G lost their characters, black orc big boss, normal gobbo warboss, the orc bully and... I think that's it. All the rest of the stuff is still there, save for the night gobbos which are just getting reboxed. And I KNOW they're being reboxed cause if they weren't then fanatics would have "Gone out of stock" too

>>54082912
>O&G lost their characters, black orc big boss, normal gobbo warboss, the orc bully and...
Goblins
>And I KNOW they're being reboxed cause if they weren't then fanatics would have "Gone out of stock" too
Wrong.

>>54070835
*High Warden (220)
High Warden (220)
Skywarden (160)
- General
*Archmage (120)

*20 x Spireguard (240)
*5 x Reavers (160)
5 x Reavers (160)

*20 x Swordmasters (400)
10 x Shadow Warriors (200)
1 x Chariots (80)

* Battalions
Guardians of the Dawnspire (40)

Only able to use one arch mage or you break battle line. Doesn't have much in rend or mortal wounds so mid-tier but with movement abilities they should be able to control the battle. Picked sky warden as general to boost the two high wardens as they will be doing the damage

>>54083206
>but with movement abilities
>*High Warden (220)
>High Warden (220)
>Skywarden (160)
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>mfw cheetahfag is now legacy-meme shitposting in aosg
C'mon guys. Just hide/report him - it worked in 40kg so it will work here too

>>54083403
>cheetahfag
who?
And anon, I've never played 40k

>>54083206
Ps also paint the two arch mages on top of pillars for terrain and buy one on a steed

>>54083301
Reavers are needed for battleline and near sky warren hit decently

>>54083469
>hit decently
Nope

>>54083427
An attention whore shitposting and baiting on /40kg/ also avatarfagging with his cheetah pictures.
He was usually replying to himself so it was fun to see how the most "butthurt" posts were deleted with his avatar-faggotory posts. Just ignore him and enjoy the general

>>54083483
Wound buff oops
3attacks@4+/3+ it's decent lol
With forty-two inch threat range
If you roll box cars
Still Wish aelfs had compound bows giving -1 rend tho.. Maybe they setup better with ghb2

>>54083631
>Wound buff oops
>3attacks@4+/3+ it's decent lol
>With forty-two inch threat range
>If you roll box cars
Still shit
>they setup better with ghb2
>surely GW will boost unsupported armies
I love this meme

>>54074508
Khorne approves/5
You might be prone to lose against heavy shooting armies, but that's always the case with khorne. I really love the idea of 10 attack skullgrinder! From my experience people underestimate khorgoraths, with that list they are 8 attacks a piece with good staying power in combat. I think you will do fine.

>>54066194
JP is a nihilist though. He isn't a sad sack brooding faggot but I believe he concedes that nihilism is correct and the place you have to start from before you find your meaning.

>>54082838
No source? good argument bro

>>54084494
>JP is a nihilist though.
No he isn't you twat. Actually watch his work before shitposting about the man

>>54084584
>No source?
Top-5 non collectable miniatures

>>54084950
Post a link or stop posting

>>54085014
https://icv2.com/articles/games/view/26216/top-5-non-collectible-miniature-lines-spring-2013

>>54085378
>spring 2013

AOS didnt exist in 2013 you twat, how is this relevant?

>>54085378
That's just some data collected from independents. It doesn't account for GW's sales.

>>54085408
https://icv2.com/articles/markets/view/36971/top-5-non-collectible-miniature-games-fall-2016
>>54085413
>It doesn't account for GW's sales.
Yes, it's not full chart, but still much more informative than rumors from BoLS/Dakka/etc

>>54085502
>Yes, it's not full chart, but still much more informative than rumors from BoLS/Dakka/etc
So how is this proof of anything?

It's not

>>54085531
>So how is this proof of anything?
It proves that your thesis
>>54081345
>product you haven't bought for years
is false, since WHFB was in top-5 best sellers among the retailers in US.

>>54085584
Not him

He was saying YOU, as in YOU the individual

Also, this does not prove anything. If you can't see why this is insufficient proof then you should stop posting

>>54085502
A top 5 also tells you jack shit, since there are no actual numbers. if the difference between 5 and 6 is 1%, then it's hardly relevant.

And X-wing might no.1 but you don't know by what kind of margin.

>>54085647
>Also, this does not prove anything.
How exactly it doesn't prove that WHFB was popular among the customers in early 2013?
>>54085675
>A top 5 also tells you jack shit, since there are no actual numbers.
Oh, so you have actual numbers about AoS-WHFB from GW?