/40kg/ Warhammer 40k General

>>54013012
Shitsters of Basshole aka Adeptus Shitsenioritas

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I claim dis thread for da boyz

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>>54013034
I claim it for da gurlz though.

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Do you use snipers in your 8th edition army? How do they perform?

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Either plastic sisters are coming soon or they're being squated in favor of female Primaris. Honestly don't care which, just want girls in power armor.

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I wonder how long until Cawl starts using traitor geneseed? Has he already?

ADEPTA SLUTICUS

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>>54013045
WAAAAAAAGGH

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The piranha and the riptide are stand ins for a XV109 with ATS+TL and a Barracuda AX-5-2 with railgun+ion blasters
the commander with mult-tracker+velocity tracker is a stand in for an XV84 with drone controller+2 missile pods

Rate my list please

>>54013048
They're garbage, no point usinf them

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What do you think about Hierophant?

>>54013045
>Beautiful Sexy Woman, everyone who thinks otherwise is gay

>>54013045
can't even steal the face of that girl from naruto without making her look exactly like a man

>>54013062
See? Big choppas>power klaws this time around. This git knows.

>>54013053
>shitsters
>female

Guys, it looks like Primaris is going to replace the classic marines.

I'm scared boys.

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>>54013034
No this thread here is technology which belongs to us
Claiming it in the name of the Omnissiah

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>>54013082
Good thing I play Guard.
Liked enough to keep getting rules
Not popular enough to get replaced with Chads.

>>54013082
you only realized this now?

>>54013054
He probably has already. He's definitely loyal but Machiavellian even for 40K standards. In any case primaris have been fighting only for roughly 100 years so most of them are newbies to Chaos and after reading Dark imperium it won't come as anyone's surprise to see some of them fall to it.

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>>54013082
The emperor protects. Fear not!

>>54013082
Yeah it's basically spelled out clearly in Dark Imperium.

Unless it's all a swerve, of course.

>>54013100
Felix almost does, doesn't he? Saved by a Librarian.

>>54013074
That's a tankhammer ya git

>>54013101
Protects you from what, looking in a mirror and seeing that disgusting man face?

>>54013116
yep, pretty sure Felix has latent psychic abilities too. Also it was interesting to see how they showed Khorne's temptation in an otherwise super standard, exemplary primarine

>>54013065
Nice shoot good melee but a little expensive

Right, so how should a mediocre painter attempt to go about painting a Skitarii army?

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>>54013122

>>54013128
I wonder if all Primaris are. Those three new organs in their brains maybe?

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R8 my primate

Sorry for the phone post

>>54013138
Lead belcher/khorne red/agrax on everything

D O N E

>>54013065
Its nice to kill another titan and sheety against swarms

>>54013025
>not Assdeptus Shitsenioritas

Are you even trying?

>>54013152
Looks great. What chapter? If ho!ebrew, lore?

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okay, so I may need some help.

See, I've got a friend who is willing to split the cost for the Dark Imperium box, as I really only want the Nurgle and my buddy wants the Primaris. We would each pay half, and I would get the rule-books, more or less.

But as we both are Poorfags, we wondered if it is better to wait and buy the "Know no fear" box instead, and supplement it with the "easy to build" figures, as it would be cheaper? We've calculated the miniatures we'd both lose out on, but in terms of gameplay experience, buying/owning experience and painting/converting experience, which do you think would be best? Buying DI or wait for KNF?

>>54013082
What happens to all the named characters?
Azrael. Cassius. Dante. Calgar.
Also, how does this affect the Grey Knights?

>>54013153
>khorne red
Not Mephiston? Khorne red seems a bit dark.

What about the details? That may be a bit fiddly since I haven't gotten myself a proper fine detail brush yet.

>>54013159
Trying to stop laughing after reading Assdeptus Shitsenioritas!

>>54013107
I want to die. It will be years before they update all of the other subfactions of marines and we'll lose all of the cool variation stuff that took literally decades to finally release.

Ravenwing Black Knights, Death Company, Deathwatch, Thunderwolf Calvary, Dread Librarians and axeman Dread.

It's like they don't even care, and then they'll discontinue the whole line once the first model for "Dark Angels Primaris" comes out so all we're left with is these super watered down versions of our factions.


REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>54013149
>>54013149
That image is depressing.

>>54013138
You can simplify things by cutting down on the number of colours you use, e.g. if you do the armour and the cables in the same metallic colour the entire chest area becomes much less fiddly.

>>54013171
Regular marines can be upgraded to Primaris. So probably that.

>>54013151
I'm not sure, in Espandor he's freaking out around the cathedral but there is like one comment from a random guy that sounds as if he's clueless of the "evil in the air" sort of thing, might just be bad writing though.

I wouldn't be surprised if one of the extra organs was some sort of backdoor in case they go astray or just some kill-switch of sorts, that would mean civil war for sure.

hey /tg/ am I better off at 1500 points running

10xOccult Terminators w/hellfyre missiles with 3x10 man Rubric Marines w/soulreapers and two Exalted Sorcerors

3x10man Plague Marines with Plasma/Powerfist champions + 3 Terminator Armored HQ's + 2xBlightbringers

OR 3x10 man Bezerkers + Dark Apostle, 10XChaos Terminators + Duel Lightning Claws + Chaos Termi Lord w/claws + 7xWarp Talons?

>>54013172
Agrax won't look as good on mephiston and if you're going for tabletop standard you can hide a less than perfect paintjob better with a darker, grungier scheme.

You don't really need a fine detail brush for tabletop standard, just put a good point on your standard and you'll be ok.

Details can be Evil Sunz Scarlet on the lenses and Balthasar Gold for metallic stuff. You can literally base it leadbelcher, paint cloth and large panels khorne red, paint lenses evil sunz, paint metallic details balthasar, wash it all over with agrax and you have yourself a painted dude.

>>54013054
Prety sure he has, there's a bit in one of the new stories where a primarus chapter where only high ranking members know their primarch praise the 14th as a placeholder name.

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>>54013152
I lie the scheme, here a a few tweaks though.

>>54013214
AKA the lazy man's drill for internet pictures
Looks a bit too much like grey knights to me desu but if you like it, go for it.

>>54013211
Which story was this?

>>54013214
That power sword need more detail.Get some blue or at least some wash on.

>>54013157
>sheety against swarms
It can make 12 shots, 2d6 autohits and 18 attacks a turn, shouldn't do to badly

>>54013235
80 orcks boyz and he is done

>>54013235
It costs about 1800 points I'm guessing? In a 5 turn game, it would have to be able to kill 360 points worth of swarms a turn to make up its cost.

>>54013227
Can't remember exactly a friend showed me an excerpt. The new dark imperium novel i think

>>54013235
Hierophant cost 1930 points... Other armies have better and cheaper titans

>>54013265
I don't remember anything like that, Anon.

>>54013234
>>54013223
Not mine, I just shooped it.

>>54013012
So I'm a tabletop newfriend and got the Dark Imperium box because I finally wanted to paint some fucking miniatures.

Why are those paints so fucking expensive? Nobody prepared me for this.

>>54013270
But with Hierophant weapon you can destroy virtually every titan

>>54013282
3 reasons in descending order

Brand
Niche market
Pigment count

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>>54013293
I think the necron super pylon does more damage.

>>54013293
Pylon shits all over Hierophant

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Hi. This is a pic of Lt. Varrus from the Macragge box set. He's supposed to be a pilot for a crashed aquila.

In one hand he has a rather interesting looking bolt pistol (that's what the accompanying booklet says anyway).

However I've never seen a bolt pistol that looks similar to it (in model or depicted form). Any idea if it has a name, pattern, mark, etc? Any other models use a similar bolt pistol (as opposed to sub pistol)?

>>54013282
High quality acrylics are expensive. Citadel paints are a bit more expensive than most due to brand. Really good quality for the price, regardless.

I buy Vallejo paints, you get more and in a handy dropper bottle.

Still expensive though, but less than GW paints.

>>54013282
If you find the paints expensive then maybe this hobby isn't for you. Try something like X-wing instead.

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>>54013282
Don't buy paints from GW if you're short on cash. Vallejo and Krylon should do you fine.

>>54013303
I've got him too, are you sure it's not a laspistol? I remember it having worse roll

>>54013314

I'm 99% sure that it's supposed to be a bolt pistol.

>>54013303
Might just be a regular old autopistol?

>>54013313
Vallejo Model Colour > Citadel Paints, tbqh.

>>54013301
Pylon only does D6 attacks with D6+3 damage.

>>54013322
I really like Citadel metallics though, especially their new stuff like Retributor and Liberator Armour and Stormhost Silver.

>>54013320
>>54013314

I'm pretty sure it's a bolt pistol, i did a bit of googling beforehand and everyone has referred to it as a bolt pistol.

Unfortunately I don't have the book to hand, and I can't find a PDF of the original battle for macragge book either =/

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>>54013303
post yfw it's cawl pattern
HERESY CANT MELT CADIAN PYLONS
WHAT IS ROBUTE HIDING FROM US ?

>>54013301
>>54013302
And he cant move.. Greate at taking Scenario points

>>54013333
The liquid metallics range, liquid gold, liquid silver, old gold etc are better in my opinion, even if you have to thin it with iso alcohol.

>>54013301
>>54013302
Someone still plays these cans?

>>54013344

It really does look more like that than a traditional bolt pistol, holy shit!

But that model predates the new ones by many, many years. I don't think they're actually related.

>>54013309
>>54013310
>>54013313

I might just base coat them for now and go find someone to play with to see if I really enjoy the hobby as a whole.

>>54013234
Yeah the sword isn't finished yet. I want to do like the Duncan Custodes blade on it.
>>54013164
These are the Void Knights. Imperial Fist successors, essentially chivalrous Arthurian Knights with a stiffy for honour and high minded idealism. Trying to represent the nobledark elements we're seeing now.

>>54013361
You also don't need to buy a million different shades of paint. Get darker colors that you can wash with either Nuln or Agrax and then just highlight using the same color. No need to buy another color just for highlights. You could probably get by with just 14 pots and a can of black Krylon and you'll be good to go.

>>54013064
Can I get some feedback?

>>54013377
0/10 because tau

>>54013271
Different book then, I'll see if i can find the quote

>>54013383
>>54013207
How about me?

How out-of-scale are Warmahordes with 40k?

>>54013207
>>54013392
None of your lists can deal with vehicles, so you're going to have a bad time.

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>>54013314
>>54013320
>>54013344

Definitely a bolt pistol.

Is there really nothing else out there that uses the same design? No lore or whatever?

... I'm shocked. Usually everything in 40K has 45 pages of backstory and 3 names behind it.

>>54013367
Sounds good, dude.

>>54013402
Good cost effective options?
Havocs?

>>54013398
Infantry are a litlle taller and skinnier, but its close enough to work as long as you don't mix in the same unit.

>>54013420
Havocs are good, las preds are good

>>54013411
I think it's just meant to be a compact "civilian " pattern, for pilots and such.

>mfw Cawl somehow possesses the Gene seeds of the 2nd and 11th Legions along with that of all the Tratior Legions


How heavy of a retcon is this?

I'm tempted to start a Silver Skulls primaris force, hold me guys.

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>>54013402
Here is the list with the actual FW units in there as battlescribe just updated a few minutes ago

>>54013446

Well, he is still supposed to be military, being a Lieutenant and all. But I just figured it would have a particular name - Looking at the various wikis there's like 10 different patterns listed for bolt pistols alone!

>>54013450
that's exactly what is implied in the Dark Imperium novel.

>>54013450
Not a retcon?

Cause the 2 legions were disbanded and given to the Ultramarines and the Emperor's Children.

That geneseed was sent to Mars along with all the others. It just wasn't used.

>>54013159
Now that is at least have a ring to it.

>>54013450
Not one at all, those legions did originally exist and it'd be easy for some sample to still have been in ice somewhere.

>>54013459
Go for it, Anon. It'll be great.

>>54013149
Yoshi-yoshi, lets get some ice-cream and then go kill some xeno.

>>54013492
>Yoshi-yoshi

Does anyone have any pictures of alpha legion primaris marines? want to see how they look, and google has failed me

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Welp, I'm home sick and bored and AoS gens isn't the appropriate place.
So taking request for Reiver re-colours.
(or 40k re-colours in general)

Note black and white will look like ass.

>>54013531
Alpha legion? was planning on getting some and giving them power axes to make chosen

>>54013531
Still got the Raven Guard ones? Couldn't view them in the other thread. Thanks in advance, mate.

>>54013531
Celestial Lions, please.

>>54013542
Deleted them I'm afraid, but a said black/white looks like ass with the hue system.

>>54013531
Legion of the Damned (or their pre-mutation chapter colours) Pls.

>>54013531
What chapter is that? The scheme is nice.
Also, Raptor colors would be cool.

>>54013138
Just start painting aaron

>>54013088
Now belongs to the Dark Mech

>>54013531
Can you do Astral Knights or Storm Wardens?

>>54013564
who's aaron
do you mean anon?

>>54013048
I do. They've performed quite well at their intended purpose - pinging wounds off characters.

>>54013172
Depends on the Forge World, I'm doing Lucius, which is a darker red than Mars, so I use Khorne Red.

>>54013531
Black Templars, onegai.

>>54013048
gunned down a primaris captain turn 1 with 10 snipers

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Is there any word of when the codex's come out? Don't really wanna buy an index

>>54013589
I'm doing Mars because muh cawl herohammer so I guess I should be using Mephiston.

>>54013608
>Don't really wanna buy an index
why? they are honestly great, its nice to have all my rules in one easy place

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>>54013533
Can't do a scintillating blue-green effect so i hope this'll do

>>54013602
>>54013554
>>54013542
>as said black/white looks like ass with the hue system.

>>54013555
Some guys' request

>>54013608
No idea, some anon said they'd all come out within one month of each other though, and it would be later this year.

>>54013531

Nice, Juggalo colours for the Juggalo marines.

>>54013531
Could you try Salamanders? Thanks.

>>54013169
please help

>>54013608

Then pirate the index like a normal person dumbass.

>>54013173
Ha Ha! Upvoted!

>>54013207

Berserkers are great, but they really want a metal box to ferry them around (and possibly a sorcerer to warptime the metal box)

Run the 3x10 berserker list, add 3 rhinos, sorcerer and some hellbrutes (fist/lascannon or missile/lascannon) for tank hunting.

>>54013639

Maybe put more thought into what armies you really want to play then getting start collecting boxes instead of snap-jumping to the two faction starter set just because it's there?

>>54013048
Deathmarks consistently underperform

>>54013623
Cheers man, looks pretty nice. What program are you using ?

Do you think Sisters will change significantly when they get plastic kits, or am I okay to start list building in advance now?

>>54013169
>>54013639
Get DI. You get more HQs/Elites that you will need in both DG and Primaris armies.

>>54013665
They've got rules now, so you should be fine, rather than waiting for the rest of time.

>>54013048

Ratlings are crappy if you take the minimum size squad

2 10m teams on the other hand are scary as hell and relatively cheap.

>>54013207
Why 3x10 man Zerkers and not 6x5 man Zerkers? For the same price you get more flexibility and double the sergeants and their power axes/LCs. Put them in three rhinos and R U S H

>>54013675

Well, everyone with half a brain knows they're finally starting to catch on to Sisters being one of their most popular IPs.

>>54013682
kek. people said this ten years ago

>>54013623
Imperial fists? Crimson fists?

>>54013048
Vindicare. Good for shaving off wounds on characters and maybe scoring a kill if you're lucky

>>54013101
why does she have a flamer lighter on the end of a melta gun

>>54013682
I was pulling your leg, I honestly have no idea where GW are going with Sisters, though I wouldn't mind some new models... But seriously, you may as well get some now, the next few months are probably going to be DG/ Space Marines anyway, and people have been saying September for codecies, so I'd assume that they'd probably make some starter kits then. If nothing else, you can work on a colour scheme.

>>54013678

A 10m team can charge, fight and fight again before the opponent retaliates
With 2 5m teams only 5 will get the 2nd phase before retaliation.

Also, depending on how successful your first team is, the opponent might be able to remove enough models to deny attacks from our second team

>>54013656
>my friend plays imperium and I play Chaos
>so therefor, we should instead wait for the start collecting boxes instead of splitting the bill

you confuse me

>>54013668
alright, thanks

>>54013719

I do have some now; Celly, Ellie and Genny.

>>54013719

Considering how useful snipers are this edition, I wonder what SOB snipers would be like. Outside that flamer-sniper image that floats about.

Some sort of Incendiary round sniper rifle maybe?

>>54013169
If you are new players and are constantly together and can play often and don't mind leaving the stuff that isn't minis at one of you's place, go ahead and buy the Know no Fear. But know this: you will eventually need to spend quite a lot in paint, more dices and new minis, which will force you to buy the indexes.

It's rough for poorfags, I should know.

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>>54013544
>>54013555
>>54013574
>>54013638


>>54013662
Paint.net

>>54013751
Why do I now have a mental image of a sniper melta?

>>54013531
Mantis warriors

>>54013771
HOOOOOLYY SHIIIIIIIIIIT

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>>54013344
>Yfw there are Inquisitor conspiracy theorists on the Inquisitornet who really believe this.

Chaos bros, what would they have to do for you to take Obliterators and Mutilators again assuming their weapons special rules remain the same.

Hey how to I /death guard/ in 8th? I want to use the new models (plus that old leaked video previewed some other good looking stuff in the future). Got like 40 Poxwalkers, Typhus, the blight drone, and a shit ton of 30k marines and terminators. No vehicles though (besides a contemptor)

What paints do I need for the new death guard

Finally played my first game of 8th last night. A buddy and I are swapping minis from the starter set, but we only had one box last night, so we played that "kill the warlord" mission.

Holy fuck the Lord of Contagion is strong. I buffed him with the death guard psyker almost all game and he walked through squads with almost no resistance. Really hyped for 8th ed (and glad I am getting the Death Guard half).

>>54013799
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inudsOEW3Kg

but watch ALL his videos.

>>54013799
Depends on how ya wanna to paint em, don't it?

>>54013799
This vid's the Lord of Contagion, but should give you an Idea.

https://youtu.be/29Yg2ukwpTo

>>54013792

Assault d3.
Roll 4 dice and then allocate them to S, R, D and number of shots.
Power Fists.
They are iron warriors, not orks.

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>>54013450
>yfw this is how they explain female Primaris.

>>54013818
>Didn't even realize they don't have power fists anymore

They're shittier than I thought, wow.

>>54013823
Good.

>>54013817
>>54013812
Do I really need all of those paints?

>>54013838
oh boy.

>>54013838
first one is less paint, great detail.
second one is shitload of paint, astounding detail.

you decide.

>>54013771

Yeah none of these work for them like the Juggalo colour scheme did.

>first day of a new job

>Slightly nerdy seeming guy training me uses the word 'gubbinz' in conversation

>Do I go full out and bring up the warhammer ?

I feel we need a handshake or something

>>54013531
dark angels?

>>54013776

Could happen. Short range for a sniper but a 24" melta sniper would still be nasty.

I'm in the middle of converting an RT and I want to give him a xenos gun. I have an Eldar Fusion Pistol in my bitz box. Hypothetically, if I said it was just a plasma pistol statswise when running him, would any of you sperg out over it?

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>>54013778

>>54013881
I wouldn't. You could have a fucking tau railcannon on a killa kan, as long as it fires as an ork weapon.

I can't speak for the spergest of the sperg, tho.

>>54013881
RT, as in Rogue Trader?

>>54013771
so who else having a chapter with a heavy reliance on these guys?

>>54013910
Yeah. You know, rich, dress like space pirates, ego the size of a planet, probably has a harem of eldar concubines?

>>54013169
Can someone tell me what Know no Fear is? Are they replacing the starter set already?

>>54013925
Then go for it
I don't see any problem with it, it's fluffy.
>>54013931
Not replacing, they're making two smaller ones with a mat and no rulebook for a cheaper starter in addition to the full one

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So i decided to start primaris marines army, what do you think about my custom chapter scheme? What paints should i buy?

>>54013881
What are you running him as? 'cause if it's an inquisitor they have access to inferno pistols.

>>54013944
¿

>>54013952
They do? well thats even easier then.

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>>54013149
>>54013178

Don't worry. It's got better!

>>54013771
Well, I guess Storm Wardens look like hot dogshit on them.

>>54013931
its more of a supplement, it contains most of the units with no duplicates and just the primer instead of the full rulebook, and the first strike has new reavers and death guard in an even more affordable starter (likely to be like the AoS one so like 40-50 bucks tops)

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>>54013865
Surprisingly big hassle to do.

>>54014006
well shit brother, thanks for your time and effort. they're lookin pretty solid

>>54013531
Silver Skulls please ?

>>54014017
The metallic effect from Reflect as used on Lions, Dangles and AL does a for for marines.

>>54013969
thank you for this edit anon

>>54013864
Abort abort abort

It's actually a word.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/gubbins

>>54013025
Can't wait for you to get the hint that everyone here hates you and your pathetic, primary-school 'humor'.

>>54014032
>h-h-hey man, you purge xenos t-too?
>WTF WHY ARE YOU SO RACIST? ARE YOU A NAZI OR SOMETHING?

>>54014046
Don't reply, that's what he wants

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>>54014046
He'll never stop, it's best to just ignore the guy I think

>>54014032
Most Ork slang is actually northerner slang, ere we go is a football chant.

>>54013864
We have one.

>>54014061
Northerner and cockney

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>>54014064

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>>54014018

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SO! my babbys first airbrish + mini compressor isnt dont it for me now. talked to the mate i bought it used for about what he uses no, all my mates use Badger Renegade kromes, cost for it is "okay" so i ordered it, all of a sudden they say "NO! its the compressor thats important! your minicompressor wont work with that brush!" now im fucking stuck, i dont know what compressor to get.anyone know anything about this shit? my $80 minicompressor actually works quite well and is silent, when i ask them why it wont work they dont say why - so does anyone know anything about comnpressors or use the renegade krome? if now where the fuck can i talk to people who do?

>>54014046
>bassholes getting triggered
Must hurt your ego seeing they were no longer their own faction.

>>54014080
>when i ask them why it wont work they dont say why
Don't listen to them then you retard, use it if it works

>>54014061
Yeah I know, I was telling him it was a word.

>>54013818
>They are iron warriors, not orks.

Hey, at least you don't alternate with the opponent to allocate stats.

54014081
>still ban evading this hard
Fuckin WEW

>>54014080
If it works, use it.

>>54014006

Angry marines?

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Does this look better now that I've shortened the assault cannon?

>>54014127
what is this unholy creation

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>>54014136

Chaplain dread with shoulder-mounted assault cannon instead of magnetising an arm and an assault cannon.

>>54014145
You should join the Dark Mechanicum, Anon.

>>54013893
Thanks anon

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>>54014061
Orks are based around football hooligans and punks

infact, the entirety of early rogue trader 40k lore is based off an overblown caricature of Thatcher's england

>>54014145
I mean
I would've just magnetized it
Whatever suits your fancy I guess
Also, what is going on with the cast quality?
Recast?

>>54014156
Kek. It would probably look better if he chopped off the skull and stuck the ass cannon there instead.

>>54014164
It took me too long to get the whole
>MagUruk Thraka
thing.

>>54014156

Magos 1: I mounted a land speeder assault cannon on this dreadnought's shoulder and trimmed the barrel down a little so it can have two close combat arms and still have an assault cannon. It loses out a little on ammo capacity, but on the other hand it has two stormbolters. I think it works out pretty well.

Magos 2: We don't need your tech heresy around here, go join those assholes who bind daemons into everthing they build.

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>>54014180
It's not true though.

>>54014127
Looks much better imo

I miss the list builder.

>>54014170

Nah it's direct from forge world. Probably just an old mould.

I didn't magnetise because I realised my stock of assault cannons would be in the chapter paint scheme, but a chaplain would be predominantly black.

>>54014201

Ghazkhul is a LARPer.

>>54014204
I know man, I keep trying to make lists or modify the ones I have. Anyone know if its worthwhile to put special weapons on bikers? I was thinking about running some as melta teams

>>54014178

Dreadnoughts with assault cannons for faces.

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>>54013687
Totally missed you.

>>54014230
thanks for remembering, Anon

>>54013531
Raven Guard? Raptors?

>>54014245
read the thread before posting.

>>54014230

I like the Crimperial Fist in the middle.

>>54014230
now switch the legs' colors and you get... Novamarines?

>>54013531
Can you do some lovely Minotaurs?

>>54014275
novamarines would be nice

>>54014078
Thanks Anon ! I might get a Primaris or two and try to paint them in NMM.

>>54013012
You have the black library mega link? Thanks :)

>>54014331
it ded

>>54013531
Might be stupid but Cadian colours?

WTF in AoS they renamed Elves to Aelfs really? Its like this fucking joke writes itself, i could not even come up with something as fucking ridiculous.

>>54014355
Blame corporate and their lawyers. No one I know actually uses GW's lawyer names.

A gold star to anyone who can work out why some models have the hovering rule whilst models of the exact same hull do not.

For example;
My Drukhari Raider has hovering so all measurement is done from any part of the model.
My Ravager does not have it and therefore measures everything from the base.

Why

>>54013344
Oh wow they look super gay

>>54014355
Same thing for 40k now that Eldar are Aeldari

>>54014289
Celestial lions are >>54013771
just steal from them as always.

>>54014275
Aren't they white/blue?

White is the worst colour to work with in my hue shift, just become dirty grey like >>54014230

>>54014372
GW a shit

>>54014354
Raptors are already done.

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>>54014369
Uahahah, Aelfs, Aeldari god my sides, Orukks i cant fucking take it anymore.
Garraunts, uahahahaha.

>>54014354
Won't work, Cadian uniforms are cloth mainly and armour second, marines are hard armour main an soft armour second

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Why are people so confused about the Keyword system. It is incredibly simple and easy to use. At a glance you can see what units can be used together with the Faction Keywords and what units are affected by any buffs.
Take Rowboat Girlyman for example. His Faction keywords are "Imperium, Adeptus Astartes, Ultramarines" so as the rule book states he can be included in any army that shares one of those keywords as long as the entire army shares that keyword. So obviously he works in a "Ultramarines" army as such an army would all have all three "Imperium, Adeptus Astartes, Ultramarines" he can also be in a deathwatch army as the entire army would share two key words "Imperium, Adeptus Astartes" A sisters of battle army would work with the entire army having the same keyword "Imperium" and the same goes for imperial guard.

Also buffs work the same. In that Ultramarines army they would receive buffs from the "Master of Battle" rule as it uses the Keyword "Imperium" and from the "XIII Primarch" rule as it uses the "Ultramarines" Keyword. But the Deathwatch, sisters, and guard would only be affected by the "Master of Battle" rule.

I can't understand why people need someone too hold their hand and walk them through this.

Also earlier someone said codexs trumps rule book. This is true of course, but once a rule exists like "All units must be from the same Faction" then it does not matter what faction it is be it "Imperium" or "Deathwatch" as long as they all share one Faction Keyword they are the same Faction. You don't need a Codex or index to give you permission you already have it. That said there is nothing stopping GW from releasing the Deathwatch codex and inside they state "units with the Faction Keyword "Deathwatch" can only be used in battle forged Armys were all units share the Faction Keyword "Deathwatch" (except better written as I don't write rules). But this would remove all Deathwatch units from all armys.

>>54013082
Classic Marines become intermediate Primaris Scouts

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>>54014417
Also if people fear WAAC and deathstars from this the same Keyword system that lets them all be in the same army also makes sticking them in the same army pointless. Sure you can stick a Primaris Lieutenant in your imperial guard army but the rule you would want from him "Tactical Precision" only effects <chapter> and Imperial Guard units lack a <chapter> keyword. So you can stick him in there but you are probably better off with a HQ that actually effects a Guard army. So people wanting to get synergies are probably going to build Army's that are more focused with multiple matching keywords to increase the number of effects that can effect all units. While Army's made up of just one matching Keyword will overall see less buffs as army wide Keywords will be more rare.

>>54014355
Aelf is just the old english form of elf.

Theyre not renamed, just using an archaic spelling.

>>54014417
because believe or not, there are people who arent very well versed in the lore so they have trouble with things like regiments, chapters, whateverthefucks

>>54014429
what are you going on about
I'm not reading all that shit, sentences as wide as my screen
for the WAACfags, the Wu Tang Clan theoretical exploit was already BTFO by the first FAQ

>>54014429
>>54014417
learn to pluralise your copypasta faggot

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>>54013025

holy fuck I went to sleep and woke up and this retard is still at it

Does anyone have a pic with all the Ultramarine successor color schemes and chapter badges next to each other? I'm going to make UM successor Primaris and I'd like inspiration for their colors/badge.

>>54014417
Sadly there are just some people that can't or refuse to understand even the most simple thing. Instead of accepting that the most simple explanation is 9 out of 10 times the right one, they'll only believe the most complicated and unrealistic explanation or just can't comprehend basic things.

>>54014349
Well that blows, thanks for letting me know anon. GW got to force the 50usd audiobooks somehow :/

>play CSM
>have game against Marines
>finish setting up
>opponent goes first
>he can only shoot a bunch of cultists because contemptor is hiding behind building
>my turn
>deepstrike 10 termies w/cplasma
>drop lord and sorcerer behind them
>prescience on termies
>move to shooting
>destroy a predator AND a razorback with overcharged plasma hitting on 2+ rerolling 1s

God damn that felt good.

Rules question for 8th...

When it says in the detachment restrictions that they must be from the same faction does that mean only one faction keyword has to be the same or ALL faction keywords have to be the same?

>>54014449
It's kinda sad really. Imagine what his life must be like when the only satisfaction he has left is shitposting the same shitty meme nobody like from day 1 for weeks.

>>54014478
How to make combi-plasmas for chaos termies that don't look like shit?

>>54014484

One

>>54014484
Only one.

>>54014484
AFAIK one
So for the humies its "Imperium", bad humies is "Chaos" etc.

>>54014478
>skyhammer alive and well in 8th
>more at 11

>>54014478
Doing it right, anon

>>54013048
woz dat snajprs ya talkin' 'bout?

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>>54014458

>>54014517
you da man, anon. just what I was looking for.

>>54014460
>Instead of accepting that the most simple explanation is 9 out of 10 times the right one, they'll only believe the explanation that's to their benefit

>>54014406
You mean Gargants?

>>54014517
Those hawk lords looks suspicious

>>54014478

Building 20 Black Legion Terminators for this exact purpose.

If only there was an actual combi-plasma on the sprue.

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Can I make a tomb citadel my warlord?

>>54013053
neither bro

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>>54014510
>Inquisitor, why are all our officers taken out by long range high powered rifle fire ?
>Accurate enough to not only kill them, but also ruin one or even two of the progenoid glands as well ?

>'Ork Snipers'

>>54014541
No i don't think so. It lacks leadership.

What's a good, reasonable color scheme for reasonable marines that's distinct but not camo scheme retarded?

>>54014544
Officers and apothecaries actually, no need to shoot the glands, they were just left to rot.

>>54013054
IIRC isn't Cawl's personal guard all Primarius who can be traced back to traitor geneseed?

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>>54014484

Reminder that this is a battle-forged list for the imperium

>>54014458
Relictors are also believed to be successors of both ultramarines and dark angels.
They also bear the most patrician chapter colors

>>54014406
>Space Marines become Adeptus Astertes Stellares Bellatores

>>54014554
Something with a dark, neutral colour like green, blue, brown, or black

Can someone please tell me how you handle overcharged/supercharged plasmas with a reroll?

A guy at my FLGS told me you can't reroll ones and instantly blow up even if you have the ability to reroll either by yourself or some aura. Is that true? That seemed like utter BS.

>>54014544
The butthurt about the space kangz is hilarious

>>54014578
It's BS. Read the Designer's Commentary.

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>>54014126

>>54014563
What did you uncomment to make it work?

>>54014570
Astra Nautae Milites from the Adetpus Astartes.

>>54014591

HA HA HA oh my god it's the first chapter I've seen them actually fit perfectly.

>>54014563
Absolutely. But as codexs are released and we get more units that buff other units of the same sub Faction. So a more focused list could be better becuse more Keyword based buffs would effect more of the army.

Also that list would be better if the knight was replaced with rowboat girlyman becuse one of his buffs would effect that whole army.

>>54014578
He is talking out of his ass. Only the final dice roll result is considered, after modifiers.

>>54014578
Order goes
>Rerolls
>Apply Modifiers (values can go above 6, but not below 1)
>Activate Results

So you may reroll 1s. But if for whatever reason you get a -1 to Hit. Your Plasma Overheats on 1s and 2s.

>>54014603

But then you would miss an imperial faction

>>54014609
To add to this, you can still reroll 1s, but NOT 2s, because they were not 1s when you can reroll, but became later due to flawed retarded system.

>>54014145
Anyone ever try using Contemptor limbs on a Boxnought? I want to use a Chaplain Dread, but I can't get over how stumpy those limbs look.

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Is there any reason I shouldn't take three heat cannon sentry pylons in every single game I play?

>>54014576
What kind of blue exactly? Never thought of that as a reasonable color, but maybe I'm just too used to Ultramarines.

>>54014643

Wouldn't work very well, but the blood Angel dread arms are longer than chaplain dread limbs if that helps you.

>>54014628
That's the point. To get the buffs and a army with more synergy the keyword system leads you to more focused lists. Sure rowboat girlyman will buff all imperial Factions he does more for Ultramarines. Just because you can run everything together does not mean you should.

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>>54014354

>>54014645

Because you should be taking 2 heat 1 gauss

>>54014655
Kantor blue is pretty reasonable.

>>54014645
With only M 3 they'll have a hard time retreating from close combat

>>54014645
Personal preference

>>54014645
Because the gauss looks cool too.

Do we have an upload of the Black Library short 'Left For Dead'" ?

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Am I to understand that if you want flyers behaving as they did in 7th, with being able to fly off the board without dieing, you have to use the Skies of Death section, including the addition of the Dogfight phase?

And am I also reading THAT correctly to understand that though the flyers' facing matters for the dogfighting, they still don't matter for shooting at ground targets?

>>54014645
>3 inch movement

lol

Guys - quick question.

If a space marine terminator moves and fires his heavy weapon does he suffer -1 to hit?

>>54014669
I'll check it out, thanks.

>>54014672
Turrets really should have had M 0 and no attacks.

>>54013531
CARCHARODONS NOW!!!!!!

>>54014685
cute spider :3

>>54014690
Yes. Unless the datasheet says otherwise, all models suffer -1 to hit from shooting heavy weapons on the move.

>>54014685

>36 inch Melta
>Needing to move

Lol.

>>54014665
Making Space Marines with Imperial Guard colors and transfer sheets might actually be a pretty cool project.

>>54014690
Unless his profile says that he ignores the penalty, then yes.

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>>54014701

>>54014663
But that defeats the entire point of the list. It's like making a sandwich, but without the bread so you eat it from a plate with fork/knife.

>>54014665
You are a fuckin legend.

>>54014722
Well if the lists point it's to have as many different factions as possible that's fine. But a list with one or two sub factions would work much better becuse of the buffs that would effect more units.

>>54014705
>>54014710

Cheers lads - thought so.

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>>54014718

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How good are these assholes?

Toholk seems to just kinda issue two start of game buffs then be a normal Cryptek with a slightly different weapon.

>>54014718
>just apply a grey filter
>it makes total sense anyway

without blood and rust, they are pretty bland.

>>54013344
ok cool but where are the stats?
GEEDABOLVIU, WHERE ARE THE STATS?
THEY ARE NOT ON THE INDEX.

ARE YOU TRYING TO CHEAT ME AGAIN?

>>54014718
Without the classic proportions, they're barely recognizable as Space Marines any more

GW shouldn't underestimate the iconic value of those giant-ass pauldrons

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>>54014701
>>54014718
Jokes aside

>>54014701
why are space sharks so popular
generic edgy teen chapter is so shit

>>54014718
>Null, from Metal Gear, has joined the fray

I just need to give them a black knife with the square tip, grey hair and i'll have my own Grey Fox. Just like in my japanese videogames!

>>54014798
According to fluff the left shoulder's supposed to be noticeable larger and thicker than usual.

>>54014798
Well, they are the lightly armored primaris scouts. The pauldrons on the regular primaris definitely could be larger though.

>>54014804
Melee Marines that don't have a snowflake complex.

>>54014804
Carcharodons and raptors officially best colors for this

>>54014478
I hope you meant several units of cultists anon, or you're breaking the 50% units on table at game start rule.

>>54014834
>lightly armored primaris scouts
Na, their armour is optimised for speed, agility and strength, they stripped out bracing mechanisms and removed the option to mount heavy weapons to the pack.

>>54014834
>Primaris Scouts
This bugs me hard
Further signs they plan to obsolete old Space Marines in general
And cant help but find it lazy to make them just thinner Primaris with skullfaces and tacticool pouches when Scout Marines have distinct (and very stylish) appearances apart from regular Marines

>>54014826
I dunno, I don't get the appeal at all. I'm guessing it's a way for imperial players to feel edgy.

>>54014834
Not scouts, melee specialists

>>54014878
They totally gonna obsolete regular marines.

>>54014826

Cool colour scheme and chapter tactics, cool leader.

>>54014826
How is it edgy again?

>>54014890

>Obsolete regular marines
>Have completely different units and stats

Fucking conspiracy theorists.

>>54013076
>(you)
Why are (you) like this? Did mommy (male) touch you at night?

Everyone knows sisters of battle are female (female).

>>54014852
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>>54014890
I still think they won't. That said Rowboat Girlyman was designed when they knew they were makeing Primaris. And well the scale difference between him and his 30k counterpart is not far from old marines and Primaris.