JumpChain CYOA Thread #1576: Exploding Through Exaltations Edition

>>53970767
But muh Fiat!

>>53970773
I'm sorry, but your car can't handle an exaltation. It's like putting rocket fuel in a motor scooter.

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After Stellaris I realized that my jump count is on 700... What am I doing with my life?

>>53970797
Kek... that actually made me chuckle.

>>53970424
And what does that whole rant have to do with starting the Mortals Gauntet ten years before dragonblooded jump?

That delays the beginning of meta plot from the release of the Solar Prison, but the actual setting is still the same.

>>53970797
WHY WOULD YOU TRY TO EXALT A CAR

>>53970805
Escapism, the only road to happiness in this doomed world.

>>53970805
A question we all need to ask ourselves, because bruh. I'm at 850.

>>53970805
Why would you bother when you could do basically all you'd ever want in 30?

>>53970648
How many people are there in Creation?

>>53970728
Sure. It think Gaunlet actually said you could do that.

Except the Crane is pretty useless. It just lists demons, and allows you to contact (but not summon, bind, or be protected from) 2nd and 3rd Circle Demons.

Sure, you could make a deal to learn some spells if you know Sorcery... but you're a mortal, the only thing you can really offer is becoming an Akuma.

The mindfuckery is the important part of the book. The rest might as well be "How To Become An Akuma For Dummies".

>>53970859
Maybe you don't want to miss something cool. Maybe there's characters you want to meet. Maybe there's someplace you want the coordinates of so you can go there effortlessly once it's all done. Maybe there's somewhere you want to make a friend.

Maybe you want to go to all the real-world jumps, see all the ways your life could have turned out. Or maybe you just want to eat the food there.

Who are we to judge?

>>53970861
Around 500 million mortals or so.

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Did anyone pick up a Mjolnir?

>>53970909
I got a Worthy Weapon in Marvel Magic, but I gave it a Light Domain instead of thunder or whatever Thor has.

It was also a spear, so more like Gungnir, I suppose.

>>53970839
Why wouldn't you try to exalt a car?

>>53970899
None of those are worthwhile objectives.

>>53970909
>they even remembered his gloves
>but they forgot the belt

WHY DOES EVERYONE FORGET THE BELT

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Okay, cutting to the chase: Not dead, back, big surprise, never mind.

Changelog:
>Added two new 50CP perks: Leatherworker and Daemonic Name
>finished all Tzeentch perks
>part-way into Slaanesh perks

>>53970962
>Not dead, back, big surprise, never mind.

Disappointing.

>>53970962
Just as planned.

>>53970962
Interesting

>>53970962
I love you.

>>53970902
Ah, so converting a modern earth sized population should be an order of a magnitude above that? And pulling some bullshit to usurp the Emperor in 40k or convincing the whole of thr galaxy to worship you in Star Wars would basically get you endless Essence and Willpower?

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>>53970962
ALL OF MY YES.

>>53970978
Pic related.

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>>53970909
remember That scene in avengers here everyone was getting drunk and Thor put his hammer on the table? I have Automatically worthy And use items, regardless of stuff perks so I just picked it up and threw it in the warehouse,also, I imported my staff of light as Mjolnir in Kung fury.
>>53970962
Good to see you kicking around Red,looking forward to the completed version.

>>53970962
I want Red to step on me, violently.

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>>53970909
Reminder that that's Volstagg.

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>>53970962
>Tzeentch perks
Oh dear. I want them, but...at the same time...

>>53971023
>so I just picked it up and threw it in the warehouse
You're an asshole.

>>53971067
he made it a challenge,there was an assumption of the risk.

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>>53970978
Glad to see you too, sweetie.

>>53970979
>>53970985
>>53971002
>>53971021
>>53971048
Critique and criticism requested to make sure the chaos perks are balanced with each other. Loyalist route is still being planned.

>>53971095
Your point doesn't refute his.

>>53971067
Look at his name.

Look at the shitty art he's posting with.

Look at his speech-to-text.

if you do not expect this kind of behavior from Tera by now, you are a complete idiot. This is normal for him, and I'm surprised he didn't mind-rape Thor immediately afterwards.

>>53971006
Probably, yes. At those scales you'd be looking at a fuckton of essence and willpower.

Building Manse-infrastructure would probably still be more efficient, but if you're going to those extremes of getting worshippers anyway...

Problem is that you'd have to set it up again every jump, unless you find a way to take along all those worshippers.

>>53970948
>not searching the dimensions endlessly to find Flavortown, remembering your time in Toriko fondly but wondering if there's something even better out there

>not making a scrapbook that weighs several tons and has a page count higher than every novel ever written, full of notes and photographs from everywhere you've ever been, doing dumb poses alongside all your favorite characters from your childhood

>not having a heartfelt goodbye party the night you're about to leave a world, and bringing enough of the best dip and soda in the multiverse for everyone

>>53971095
Congrats fucking over one of the better Avengers, asswipe.

Never call yourself a hero again. You're worse than Tony Stark in every way imaginable.

>>53970962
Why can't Khornates buy Psyker stuff? Khorne's cool with Psykers who murder shit with their mind, he just hates Sorcerers.

>>53970962
What falls under the definition of 'bird'?

600 - Sword of the Sun - To fight against the Primordials in their prime with naught but an army of mortals...surely, such a feat should have been impossible, no more possible than an ant slaying a living planet. But it was, and Creation was forever changed by it. Embodying that power to surpass overwhelming odds, your martial prowess is now defined by overcoming superior foes. When fighting a foe with a distinct advantage against you - power, size, scale, or even the amount of soldiers in an army - the wider the gap, the more you will be bolstered with both insight and combat ability that will let you fight them on even ground. An enemy who could slay you with a wave of their hand will find it difficult to actually focus their will upon you, a giant finds their size a hindrance instead of a help, while a gigantic army is no more difficult to overcome than a well-armed squad. Be warned that lacking the means to actually fight such enemies - an army of your own, Charms, or such - will merely give you the means to survive the bout, and that this will at most close the gap between your opposition - the battle will become a coin toss, rather than a one-sided battle. You must tilt those odds further in your favor on your own.

Reworked Fighter capstone. Steady progress. How's it look?

>>53971128
>>53971109
>>53971114
I gave him back a mine craft copy no one ever knew the difference.

>>53971149
>facepalming_picard.jpg

>>53970859
I'm addicted to perks. Specially charisma perks and fiat-backed immunities.

I'm very insecure.

>>53970720
Well, if you don't need to dream or sleep, my guess would be that you'd have immunity to the normal effects imposed by drawbacks like that.

>>53970679
I think I mentioned it with the Memory Tidying perk, but memories just get lost; they won't be destroyed. So in the case of Forever Neverland, Neverland will just be clouding them away from your conscious memories and making sure you don't bother to look for those memories.

Things that can restore memories, such as Memory Tidying or things from other jumps, could therefore help get your memories back; even so, that won't stop Neverland from trying to take them away again when she has the chance.

>>53971173
Whatever.

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>>53971149
I'm pretty sure there's an established definition.

>>53971178
I mean, does it work on some kind of fucking sky-blotting Roc?

>>53971095
It was a friendly game between a bunch of dudes who were taking a load off over a round of drinks. You just did the equivalent of snatching someone's keys and stealing their car.

>>53971178
Fluffy dinosaurs, man.

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>>53971145
Because psyker stuff trivializes the battle and is hardly a testament to your own martial prowess. Khorne dislikes cheaters, and you get a good extra amount of wargear as a result.

>>53971149
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bird

>>53971149
noun
noun: bird; plural noun: birds

1.
a warm-blooded egg-laying vertebrate distinguished by the possession of feathers, wings, and a beak and (typically) by being able to fly.
synonyms: fowl; chick, fledgling, nestling;
informalfeathered friend, birdie;
budgie;
technicalavifauna
"feeding the birds"
>>53971231
dude, one of my titles is mugger of Gods" it could've gone a lot worse

>>53971124
Yes, those are all worthy, beautiful objectives.

>>53971248
So you're a classless thug, stealing from the gods that are bros with mankind.

>>53971172
Odd time to post.

>>53971277
gods are not Bros with mankind, at best they are nursemaids and you saw what his brother was like

>>53971172
Neat.

>>53971234
...what does a voice "oozing with ambition" sound like?

>>53971332
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZzbAaHHidg

>>53970962
>Storm of Change
Does this actually affect a city-sized area? If so, there goes the average city. The city itself has been burned to the ground by warpfire, and everyone in it are now Those Mutated Things That Shall Not Be Mentioned.

>>53970909
Did…
Did Thor finally get his hammer back?
Is the Age of SJWs finally coming to an end?

>>53971312
>sins of the father, except stupider
And just when I thought you couldn't get any more retarded

>>53971347
SINDRIIIIIIIIIIII!

Sorry, couldn't resist.

>>53970880
It's useful if you take Solars later, because then you have THE Demonology book for when you wabt to do something crazy/awesome like summon the fetich of the Ebon Dragon.

>>53971332
Like… Voldemort maybe?
Or Marvel Loki.
Or Starscream.
>>53971347
That too.

>>53971312
Okay, first: Movie Thor isn't even a god.

Second: In myth, Thor was literally the god of being cool with humanity.

Third: In the comics, Thor has repeatedly sided with humanity over the gods. He lived as a human for a long time. And he became human enough to break free from the Ragnarok Cycle which had bound gods for untold ages. AND he loved earth and humanity so much, that he was willing to die from the dead husk of earth eons after humanity had left and/or died out.

Thor is much more of a bro to humanity than you are to anyone.

>>53971409
>sins of the father

if the Asgardians actually cared about humankind . They'd give us their technology continuously in small doses As we became ready for it,and would have had measures and forces in place to take care of Loki rather than us lucking out and having his brother around

>>53971347
Deep, with a bit of hissing. Fair enough, thanks.

The warpfire-eyes are awesome too. Wonder what colors I'd get...

Anyway...
>Storm of Change
Do the fires from this also, you know, burn people, besides mutating them? It'd be handy to hand out beneficial mutation, but not so handy if it include third degree burns.

Also, how far does this spread from you?

>>53971460
>Voldemort
Ah, yup, hissing.

>>53970962
Does Malal exist?

>>53967081

Say, I haven't added it to the jump, but talking with somebody gave me an idea: what if you could import a companion as your shadow? I think it's a really neat possibility to explore, but I'm not sure how to do that; I wasn't thinking of that direction when I set up the shadow perks and drawbacks. Any thoughts on how to build on that idea?

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>>53971376
No that's Volstagg, the fat guy from the Warriors Three.

No, see, now they've retconned Thor into a douchebag that repeatedly cheated on Jane when they were together.

>>53971581
God fucking damn it Marvel.

>>53971581
So they're going with the 'doubling down on retardation' strategy that never works.

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>>53971581
God fucking damn it, Marvel.

>>53971375
The guidebook says a certain amount of meters around you based on your psy rating, so I left it vague. Go with your gut.

>>53971548
>Do the fires from this also, you know, burn people, besides mutating them? It'd be handy to hand out beneficial mutation, but not so handy if it include third degree burns.
You could make it so it gives mutations to those you like and burns the fuck out of those you dislike.

>>53971565
Undetermined.

>>53971573
...I have no idea how to do that, but it sounds really cool.

>>53971496
I'm immensely glad I won't need to deal with your dumb ass when Rose updates Terra Formars.

>>53971632
Oh, okay then. Thanks Red.

>>53971496
...
That doesn't change the fact that
>He actually hate everyone because his brother is a douche
is literally the worst argument I have ever heard.

>>53971581
Marvel. Marvel. We've talked about this. Don't keep making it worse, you sour-footed rotten blankets.

Why must you continue to put your foot in your mouth time and time again, you imbecilic rabies infected orangutans?

>>53971634
Okay, here are the couple of rough options that I have for including a shadow companion in the Peter Pan jump:

1. Make a Shadow background option. The trouble with that is that the shadows don't get as much attention in the different versions of Peter Pan, so I'm not sure if I'd be able to find enough perks and items for them - not to mention that a couple shadow-related perks are already with the Drop-In and Lost Boy backgrounds.

2. I make a Shadow companion option in the Companion section. This is probably the best option, I think. The one challenge with this approach would be how to balance that with the current shadow drawbacks I have in place; those drawbacks would kind of conflict with the companion option, so I'm not sure what I should do (make the drawbacks cause your companions to misbehave accordingly so they don't cooperate, make it so that you can't take those drawbacks if you take the companion option, etc.).

Any ideas?

>>53971581
The sheer amount of delusion these writers have that makes them think people like these stories astounds me. Like Bancho has loads more self awareness than these guys and he suffers from actual disorders.

>>53971581
Thor is looking pretty good with short hair & beard. He should just kill Jane and take back Mjolnir. He's already proven himself worthy by living in the now.

>>53971581
Reminder to Marvel that Jane abandoned her husband and son the moment she heard that Thor was back, and then lost custody of said son to said husband because a court ruled that she was unfit to be a parent. She's not a strong feminist icon, Marvel, stop trying to make her into one.

>>53970859
Stronk's call is irresistible to some, anon.
>>53971149
Funny biology joke, anon. I can appreciate it.
If you didn't get it, there's a huge debate over what counts as a bird or not iirc

>>53971797
And then there's this asshole.

You should apply for a job at Marvel. With ideas like those, I'm sure you'd land a headlining job.

>>53970909
Aria and Doctor's Companion Nika could probably pick up Mjolnir, but Zephie and Writer Nika cannot.

>>53971815
... Seriously?

And now she's actively undermining mundane attempts to cure her cancer while telling anyone who tries to help her with magic to fuck off? And running around playing whack-a-mole instead of trying to reconnect with her child before she dies?

>>53970962
>Stylish Brooding
>This effect works only for your time here
What happens after you leave?
Also, I’d switch works and only.

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>>53971872
More a DC guy.

>>53971916
Too bad, DC's actually still writing some okay stuff these days.

>>53971632
>Sensational Factory
...Does this mean I'll be high all the time, what with my body producing drugs?

>This even extends to the wargear that followers of Slaanesh possess, meticulously altering and shaping their equipment until it is as beautiful as they are.
>pink spiky stuff
That's their idea of beauty...? That's hilarious.

>Slithering Friends
Huh, I didn't know Slaanesh was associated with snakes. Cool.

I wonder how big I could get a basilisk with this...


In any case, this is going to be agony deciding which to go with. I really, really like the Slaanesh stuff, but I want Warpfire so bad too.

>>53971913
Thanks for the grammar thing, and after you leave it's irrelevant because Chaos isn't breathing down your neck anymore.

>>53971947
>...Does this mean I'll be high all the time, what with my body producing drugs?
Your decision.

>That's their idea of beauty...? That's hilarious.
Shit goes wonky when you have no self-control or guidelines.

>Huh, I didn't know Slaanesh was associated with snakes. Cool.
Somewhat.

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>>53971581
What I can't fathom is that it's /STILL BEING WRITTEN BY THE GUY WHO WROTE PIC RELATED/

>>53971758
Shadow, the true self.

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>>53971933
They've kept the SJW stuff to Batgirl & Green Arrow. Although Green Arrow is more typical liberal stuff that he's always been about. I enjoyed his Rebirth so far though.

Oliver has lost everything. Apparently his family has been part this occult thing that's been controlling Seattle/Star City since its founding. Meryl comes back tries ruin his name, he's comes out as not-dead & is thrown in jail. Turns out it was his mother that's still alive, she's into the cult thing and is the leader. Black Canary & Oliver are broken up sorta. Oliver is going on a one man crusade to get back his life.

>>53971933
If we can keep Manyfist from contributing any ideas, it'll stay okay.

>>53971981
When that kind of shit happens, normally it's because they have a new wife/girlfriend and have been completely pussywhipped into her beliefs.

>>53972003
So they're basically just half-way ripping off early seasons Arrow?

>>53972001
Nice Persona reference!

>>53971758
Probably go with the second one, yeah.

The drawbacks affecting your companions for Where's My Shadow? could work, I think.

Though probably not with No, You Are the Shadow, unless they're the shadow of a shadow.

>>53972064
I'll see what I can do about the whole shadow thing.

While I'm working on those edits, is there anything else, such as with the new material, that needs reworking?

>>53971121
Well fuck, now I kind of want a way to carry a whole galaxy-sized cult around with me just because of how hilarious the idea is.

>>53972015
You idiot. Don't you know anything about shitposting? YOU SHITPOST WHOEVER IS TRYING TO CONTRIBUTING A NEW JUMP.

Manyfist is old news right now. Heavens Anon and Wukong have the Solar jump in progress, so you make them feel like crap for trying. Red just posted a new WIP, tell her what a blight on existence she is. Cataquack Warrior just imaged Peter Pan, tell him how everything he does is invalid because he came from SB.

You have a cornucopia of targets and you are too STUPID to even aim in the right direction. What is wrong with you? You worthless diseased carcass of a shitposter!

Does Lillith have a canon mate in the present or can I wank that my Exaltation is the one? Which Caste was her mate's? I forget.

>>53972360
Personally I'm gonna be seeing what build I need to be Five Moons exaltation.

Get Amalion.

>>53972360
Yeah, Swan. He's an Eclipse Caste

Of course, he could have already died by the time you jump Solars (or not have gotten his Exaltation yet). He's heavily implied to have died in some of the comics.

And honestly, he's just a signature character and kind of a shithead. Since he doesn't actually have any canonical influence on the world, you could just decide he doesn't exist.

>>53971172
>An enemy who could slay you with a wave of their hand will find it difficult to actually focus their will upon you, a giant finds their size a hindrance instead of a help
...That seems way too good. But then I'm not at all familiar with Exalted, and Solars are memtically bullshit, so what do I know?

>>53972380
Any build in Solars at all would work for that. The only thing we know of Five Moons is that he was a sorcerer and a Solar.

Sorcery suggest Twilight caste, but he's never called out as such, so he could just have been another caste and just happened to be good at sorcery.

>>53972441
>...That seems way too good
It's par for the course for exalts, especially Solars, which is why so many people can't stand them and don't like that they have jumps.

>>53971172
Why doesn't Solars have a note at the end saying that PDs aren't literally Omnipotent, huh? You know, like the other Exalted jumps. You trying to sneak it through like that? I mean, it wouldn't exactly be out of character for you. It's not like you haven't tried to stealth-modify jumps in the past, but still.

>>53972441
There are charms that can do similar effects. So it's basically a permanent passive version of Behemoth-Slaying Attitude and In Doubt of Legions Spirit. Better than what you can get without having to pay CP, but appropriate for the setting.

>>53972689
Because they're not? They're "Perfect", which is a different thing. And furthermore, if I recall correctly, Defence only beats Offence in Creation because of a universe(?)-spanning sorcery alteration. So since that alteration doesn't reach other multiverses so when you leave the jump... yeah. It'll still be damn good, because fucking exalted, but it won't stop everything.

>>53972860
>It'll still be damn good, because fucking exalted, but it won't stop everything.
>implying it would even work in Creation
I don't care what the source material says, Perfection is stupid.

So is it possible for Exalts to not give a damn about the gods/their patron Incarnae? Or is there some kind of inbuilt "intimacy" (whatever that means exactly) in each Exaltation that mindrapes the Exalt in question?

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>Going through the DB jumps
>Realize that I want to be a Saiyan, Frieza clan, Demon (Dabura variety), Kaioshin, Cell/Bio-Android AND a Majiin.
>Have no idea what to do since, even ideally, I can only be 4 of these.
Have you ever been paralyzed by doubt when making a species choice in a jump?

>>53972689
He doesn't have to, PDs are conceptual defenses and can be overcome by OOC things if they are of sufficient bullshit. It would be hard to find something that can but it is doable given what can be found in the chain.

Biggatons however will NEVER breach a perfect defense, you need something that either bypasses them or "lol no"s defences harder than PDs "lol no"s attacks.

>>53972936
Being a Cell makes you like half of those anyway though?

>>53972935
Yes. Infernals face Torment if they don't follow their Urge, but other than that you can feel however you want towards your patron/

>>53972970
Yes, but Cell LOOKS different. I like collecting interesting appearances and abilities, and it's more 'real' to have it as who you are rather than stealing it through animorphs or whatever.

>>53972152
One thing I'm wondering about are the two shadow perks I have. Should I cut down aspects of them, such as the part about your own cut shadow(s) coming to life when I add the new shadow companion option?

>>53972860
Not him, but there are literally Charms that allow you to carry around the rules of Creation. Also... why wouldn't those rules apply? If you're using an Exaltation in the first place, it works as though there are certain rules you're subject to, and that's how pretty much every other thing you can acquire in jumps works. That is, in fact, the main reason to buy or take things from the jump doc itself. Like, DC Occult assumes that you still have ambient magical energy to manipulate, Magecraft still acts as though Gaia's grinding down on it, M:tA still acts as if unaffiliated mortals are sleepers, etc., etc. The assumption is generally that you're taking things how they work in their setting in their entirety, drawbacks, benefits, and neither.

>>53972935
Yeah, there's absolutely nothing that forces you to give a fuck about your patron(s).

Infernals do have an Urge, aka a mission to complete, but you can ignore that as long as you don't actively go against it.

And Abyssals get screwed over in general by the Deathlords, but can still be renegades or independents.

>>53973047
>Deathlords
Reminder that Deathlords are Essence 9-10 and have mastered ALL Solar, Abyssal, and Ghost charms.

How do I Achilles (Grrl Power)?

>>53973070
Greek Mythology, bathe in the river... Styx?

>>53973064
Technically, only those their Abilities give them access to.

But yeah, 2e Deathlords are idiotic.

>>53973047
>>53972979
Okay, thanks. I was thinking of going Zenith because the whole "giving supernaturally inspiring speeches" sounds cool, but I didn't like the whole "priests or the Sun" thing so I was making sure I could just drop that part.

>>53973064
So the mythical beat anything Quantum Solar only worse?
Nope, all the nope.

>>53973028
Exalted perfect defenses beat Exalted perfect attacks. That doesn't mean they beat all conceptually accurate effects everywhere. For reference, Exalted "perfect" attacks aren't even very good, since they can be beaten by jumping back out of the guy's range before he swings his sword.

>>53973089
I have to wonder if the guy who wrote that part even read the rest of the book which, while it tries to stomp you into the dirt worse than most other splats to appeal to that whole Gothic wankery, still has the vibe of "YOU CAN OVERCOME THEM AND BE BETTER AND STRONGER AND FORGE YOUR OWN DESTINY!"

Which the Deathlord's stats shit on.

>>53973095
Yes, they're basically unstoppable by Exalted standards.

>>53972967
>you need something that either bypasses them or "lol no"s defences harder than PDs "lol no"s attacks.
So, you could say, you need Biggatons? Like, I don't get when you people espouse that concepts trump sheer power and then say that you need something more powerful to beat it as if you aren't acknowledging that you're full of shit in the same sentence.

>>53972936
I don't remember that part of the manga.

>>53973092
Well, you'll still be considered a priest, simply by virtue of being a Zenith. But that doesn't really do anything, except help you a tiny bit with prayers.

So yeah, go for it.

Oh, Zeniths do get a personal vision from the Unconquered Sun. Which is basically a divine peptalk telling them to go forth and be awesome.

>>53972936
>>53972998
>Saiyan in DB; get all android perks and items
>Demon in DBZ; get all android/bio-android perks and items
>Majin in Multiverse
>Frost Demon/Kai hybrid in AF
>Apply android
That's the closest you'll get, I guess.

>>53973147
It's from multiverse. Things get... interesting there.

>>53973139
No biggatons won't work, you need something that bypasses them (attacks someone in a way PDs don't apply) or "lol no"s defenses more effectively than PDs "lol no" attacks (a better conceptual effect).

Biggatons are not involved, well other than to just hit them with such biggatons so often that they are forced to overuse PDs and run out of essence to fuel them. In that way biggatons would work but you aren't getting through a PD with brute force.

>>53973139
The whole point of conceptual effects is that Biggatons won't work. Otherwise it wouldn't be a conceptual effect.
You're apparently just too dumb to understand it.

>>53973226
Oh yeah, AF has Hybrid, would kinda sorta count.

>>53973249
>or "lol no"s defenses more effectively than PDs "lol no" attacks (a better conceptual effect).
So biggatons. More effective is a quantitative, scaling value, so it is automatically subject to biggatons.

>>53973249
He's trying to argue semantics with you out spite. just drop it, you got your point across, if he refuses to acknowledge and just argue, well, nothing you can do.

>>53973249
>>53973264
Anything which is better or stronger than something else is automatically an argument about biggatons. If you acknowledge that PDs can be beaten by something, even if that thing is just a better conceptual effect, then that conceptual effect is necessarily stronger and thus subject to the argument that biggatons and power levels still apply as a rule, just on a different scale.

>>53971172
Seems good.

What the heck is a Quantum Solar and why can't I find anything out about it through google?

>>53973497
A E 10 Solar Exalt with all Solar Charms. Because it's an informal term.

Is there any point to being a kaoishen in dbz?

>>53971981
Hey, just wondering if you can pop on the IRC for a few minutes to answer a couple of questions?

>>53973497
Quantum Solar refers to the version of Solars that end up in VS debates, it is an E10 Solar with all the solar charms. It is a source of endless salt due to the fact that people kept trying to find a way to beat what was a Mary Sue by exalted standards without resorting to full on reality warpers or intelligent thought.

>>53970909
Yup. Many many times. I have compounded Mjölnirs. Off the top of my head I got the ones in Supernatural, Kung Fury, AEMH, Marvel Magic...

>>53971183
Hey, I do the same thing!
>I'm very insecure.
Hey, me too!

Would taking Majin from Multiverse and Don’t Ever Change from Kingdom Hearts make it so you can absorb anything with no consequences?

>>53973563
>intelligent thought.
That is a bit too much to ask of a Vs debate anon.

/jc/, how do you chose one waifu for your chain? Alternatively how do you justify harems without mindfucking those in it?

>>53973546
Why not just ask them in the thread, PA? All you're doing is coming across as a skeevy wanker and making him repeat himself if he ever gets asked those questions again. It's likely you're just going to "ask" him to secretly nerf things/add shit to fit your build in an "update".

>>53970962
Damn I though you were posting the finished version for a second there.

Anyway it looks good so far. By the way are we only allowed to buy the perks of our god?

>>53973533
Well you can get god ki without having to rely on the other saiyan guys from super, since we dont have a super jump. yet.

>>53973618
Is it strange that Paranoid Anon has made us all paranoid?

>>53973546
Please do ask in thread though someone may have a similar question.

>>53973226
>Multiverse

Give me one reason not to laugh it up with Universe 2.

>>53973611
>how do you justify harems without mindfucking those in it?
Simple, you make it fair.
If everyone is mindfuckd, nobody is.

>>53973611
IDK I just ask them nicely and I get their permission, I've seen very successful real life examples of polyamorous relationships so it's no big deal to me.

>>53973635
Yep. That's the tradeoff for the perks being so cheap and so awesome.

What was changed in the assassins classroom jump? Its sitting in uploads now.

>>53973682
You do not have to murder Sensei at the end.

>>53973618
Because I want to ask for lots of details about stuff and don't want to fill the thread with my stupidity? I don't think you want to read twenty posts of 'but what if I X?' or 'and then how does Y work?' do you?

Mostly though it's because I wanted to run down a list of perks and see if he thinks I can survive some things in his jumps, and don't think thread would appreciate a long list of 'hey, here's how hard I can powerwank'. I'd rather not even put that in a pastebin, since powerwanking seems to be an incredible sin around here. If he doesn't want to deal with me being me that's fine, I'll just do another build or something, but figured I could ask since he was here earlier.

>>53973533
Kai have about as much potential as saiyans/friezas, so they're at the top of the power rankings, as far as Universe 7 anyway, other universes have their own bullshit species.

>>53973533
You like their innate abilities more than that of other races?

>>53973682
Important information about how Sensei doesn't need to die.

>>53970839
Optimus prime? Though he's a truck, not a car.

>>53973611
>Alternatively how do you justify harems without mindfucking those in it?
Really good sex. A relationship based on something other than love to begin with where affection is optional but present anyway.

>>53973703
What are those?

>>53973697
I mean, it's not like there's a premium on threadspace or anything. And it'd just be filled with talk about Exalted, anyway.

>>53971172
That seems too good, even for Solars. No limits scaling to become at least an equal to any opponent, again with no limit on how strong that is. It's just gone way too far in the other direction from where you started. Turning any battle, ANY battle no matter how strong the foe, into a 50% chance at least for your own victory is insane to an unbelievably broken degree.

>>53973611
I'd go for a non-sexual yet romantic relationship with my harem. Essentially, we're closer than normal friends, but we aren't really concerned with physical attraction and more so interested in just enjoying our lives together.

>>53973611
>how do you choose one
I think Akame Ga Kill has a perk for this, actually, for those either disinclined to monogamy or just unsure if they'll eventually get bored.

>justify harems
Pick up members who either have no concept of monogamy or don't really care as long as they still have you. Those people tend to be a little warped in the head already, but that's the price you pay.

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>>53973810
Okay.

What's a good option for an alternative capstone, then? Or would just dialing it back a bit to be more context-specific work?

>>53973810
It is a passive version of charms they already have, only without the mote cost.

>>53973835
Just dialing it back would be better I think. Just so it doesn't make you equal to any and all opponents, even if that opponent is billions of times more powerful then you in every way.

>>53973837
What charm do they have that makes them equal to any opponent no matter their power level?

>>53971172
...Why is heavens posting what i'm assuming is stuff from solars?

>>53973810
See >>53972743

Fuck my life why did I decide to add Steam Armor Customization to this fucking thing.

Why did I let you people talk me into this.

>>53973797
That's fair. I might put together a post and see about doing it here with a minimal amount of powerwanking, or at least, as little as I can get away with.

>>53973875
Just become a gnome and it'll be ez

>>53973875
The fuck are you talking about?

>>53973875
MECHA

IMPORT

WHEN

>>53973670
>Yep. That's the tradeoff for the perks being so cheap and so awesome.
As opposed using actual jumpchain rules, and offering a choice of god, with that gods perks being discounted (their current price) and others gods perks costing more.

>>53973892
's gon be 100 Steam Points (SP).

>>53973870
>What charm do they have that makes them equal to any opponent no matter their power level?
They don't, and neither does the perk. It AT MOST makes you equal to your opponent, as it that is the most the perk can possibly enhance you when you face a superior opponent not that it will always enhance you that much.

>>53973874
>In Doubt of Legions Spirit
Neither of those are evne close to this perk. Together, they just give minor debuffs, NOT scaling boosts, to any large enough foe, remove the advantage of having higher numbers and make it easy to hide form big guys. The second also gives a penalty to the army sized units, it doesn't scale up your power to match the entire army evenly

>>53973611
I was entirely romanceless in my chain for about three centuries. Then one of my companions picked up a perk to guarantee them a successful love life, and used it on me immediately. I did not choose the waifu, the waifu chose me.

>>53973889
Presumably that's OAA working on World of Warcraft where people went "add the TTRPG shit to the jump."

>>53973917
Don't dodge the question.

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>>53973870
Agreed >>53973874 See >>53972743 >Behemoth-Slaying Attitude and In Doubt of Legions Spirit.
Does this.

>>53973917
>It only sometimes does this
...that's a pretty poor defence anon. Why would anyone not treat it as doing the best it can say? Does it even mention why it would give less?

>>53973935
No, they don't. They do something similar in concept but very different in scale and execution.

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>>53973875
>buy MEKA
>import it as a Steam Armor

Does Starcraft have mini-mechs?

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>>53973898
As opposed to how Chaos works, in that the Gods tend to never share their toys and will try to murder whoever doesn't throw their lot in with them with the exception of Chaos Undivided which is the equivalent of taking small shares and juggling them in a balancing act.

Sorry. Just makes zero sense that the Chaos Gods would be totally okay with someone cherrypicking.

>>53973929
Not that guy, but he directly adressed your question. There are no charms that do what you are saying and the perk doesn't do it either.

>>53973753
Multiverse's version has Godly Ki, telepathy and telekinesis (both of which can grow), teleportation, matter creation, and healing.

AF's version can create things out of nothing, and receive Instant Transmission for free, which might be some way to represent some kind of innate teleportation. Haven't read either version of AF myself so I dunno.

If you're talking using OCP to become a Kai in DB/DBZ where there's no such option then you're better off looking at the wiki.

>>53973875
Because you dig giant robots.

>>53973944
When facing someone who could will you out of existence it just makes it harder to focus their power on you, so I assume it depends on how much more powerful than you they are.

>>53973996
Then he really needs to clear up the entire second half of the perk if that's the case, because it paints a very different picture.

>>53973964
But Jumpchain gives you powers that break the settings' rules all the time. Do what you want tho I don't mind. I'm actually glad you're here making sweet new content.

>>53973929
>Answers the question
>"DON'T DODGE THE QUESTION"

>>53973964
I mean they have worked together in the past before, why not just make it so you can buy outside your god perks at a markup?

>>53973955
So it is a somewhat better and always active version of something Solars can already do? Seems like a decent enough perk.

>>53973964
He's trying to salt the fields.

>>53973611
By getting a crazy waifu that wants you to bang other chicks.

>>53974031
Massively, massively better version. So much better that what they can already do is blown out of the water.

And it feels a bit hypocritical to try and defend this perk that way when that very reason was something that got so many of you guys telling Heavens to redo the entire jump. You can't hate on it for being 'what Solars can do" and then try and use that to defend stuff.

>>53973944
It's a limit on the power. It gives you advantages against a superior foe, but if it would give you enough to be stronger than them, it gives only enough to be exactly even with them instead. Or at least that's how I read it.

>>53974023
You have a very funny definition of 'working together' but I see your point. I'll think about it.

>>53973810
desu, it doesn't matter what he offers, it's a Solars jump. He could give literal omnipotence and it would be both fitting and irrelevant, because Solars are such overpowered Mary Sues that they effectively can do anything anyway. If anyone uses the jump then they're already making the entire chain irrelevant, what does it matter how more powerful the perks are?

>>53974054
>Be warned that lacking the means to actually fight such enemies - an army of your own, Charms, or some distinct advantage - will merely give you the means to survive or stall the bout. However, should you possess a means and the will - even the mightiest of legions will falter against you.

In this context, 'means' can be anything from War charms to other OOC abilities. Better? Worse? Shitposting? Better shitposting?

>>53974006
It's a capstone for the most bullshit entity of a bullshit setting. As in, they become immune to reality warping at essence 2. Dialing it down to the point where it could be replicated by a few charms is dumb.

>>53974058
The issue is that we see it the same, only you see no problems with it. The problem I have is that the limit always makes you even with your opponent. Even if that opponent could instantly kill you with a thought and no energy expended. That's not much of a limit to scale your power to even with absolutely anything, no limits. With this, a newborn Solar could go up to UCS and stand an even chance of winning.

>>53974054
We had an issue with it because many of the perks literally did nothing, they were just things all Solars can do, things beginner Solars can start with, or things they could easily achieve.

This however is a BETTER version of what Solars can already do, which is fine and actually worth spending CP on.

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>>53974065
>there's a chance I can get my warpfire while still going Slaanesh
plz

>>53974085
Again, no. That's not addressing the infinite scaling to be even problem. Letting you survive any fight is just as bad. I can't see why this isn't easy to understand. A perk that makes you strong enough to always at least survive any fight with anyone, with no limits on who that is and you can't see the issue there?

>>53974087
IT CANNOT BE REPLICATED. Holy shit can you guys not read the charms or are you purposefully lying? Those two charms give set, relatively minor debuffs to larger enemies or those who have big armies. Not scaling ones and they don't work on things that are just stronger overall and they don't boost yourself.

>>53974065
Thanks red, good work on the WIP so far by the way.

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>>53974133
If you gave me a more specific suggestion or 'how' to dial it back, I could implement it? All you're saying is that the current version is too much. That's fair, but I need something to actually compare it to, here, so I know where the scale is.

>>53974130
What a shame what happened to that comic.

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>>53974133
Let the salt flow through you anon!

>>53971172
>How's it look?
If you are counting votes it looks good to me.

>>53972743
>So it's basically a permanent passive version of Behemoth-Slaying Attitude and In Doubt of Legions Spirit
Are those the Size won't help you and Mass Combat wont help you either charms?
There is also that charm that nullifies all benefit a primordial would get from having 1st, 2nd, & 3rd soul components of itself attack you at the same time.

>>53974133
No one but you seems to have an issue with it. I ain't no Exalted expert, but I'd assume that's because there are charms that let you replicate the perk.

>>53974133
>infinite scaling
Valeria is that you?

>>53974133
Cause it's not like the Solars aren't the strongest examples of a group meant to destroy the nigh-omnipotent architects of Creation, many of which were "stronger" than them, right?

>>53974171
Remove the infinite scaling. Have it give debuffs to the enemy instead, similar to what it's based on. Have it focus on removing the advantages or larger or more numerous enemies and weakenening, but not entireley negating or bringing down to your level, stronger foes. Armies are no more dangerous then the individuals in it, mere size is no extra threat and powerful beings feel weaker in your presence. If they're strong enough in comparison to you, the debuff likely won't be that big a deal, but that should be a very big gap evne still because of how strong Solars are. This way you still give a massive penalty to foes but you're not able to match the UCS on day one.

Still similar to what Solars can do but much better and broader and permanently on. Like people have apparently said, that's what they're after.

>>53974089
It gives you a boost of no more than your opponent's power level, not a boost to your opponent's power level. It's the difference between "you earn 10% more money, or as much money as the richest person in the world is making, whichever is less" and "you earn as much money as the richest person in the world." This perk is the former.

>>53974133
Both those Charm's scale their debuffs based on the power of the enemy. Behemoth-Slaying Attitude ignores half their soak. The more soak they have, the more soak you ignore. They both ignore magnitude bonuses. The greater the magnitude bonus they would normally have, the more of their bonus is canceled.

>>53974133
>IT CANNOT BE REPLICATED
Yes, yelling loudly definitely proves how you are right, and everyone else is wrong.

>>53974227
>. Have it give debuffs to the enemy instead, similar to what it's based on.
Then why buy the perk instead of getting the Charm?

>>53974227
There are already charms with infinite scaling.

>>53974227
Anon stop, the perk needs to give something beyond what Solars can just do/learn. That is the entire issue everyone had with the last version.

>>53974054
>>53974089
>>53974133
You don't seem to understand a very basic fact; this is a Solar jump. Solars are, as a rule, the best at everything for ever and literally perfect, totally unbeatable, the most awesome and greatest people anywhere and everywhere. It doesn't matter what perks they get, because Solars are already automatically, categorically invincible and unbeatable. You shouldn't go into a Solars jump with the illusion that anything you bought in the jump, or in any jump prior, will ever matter compared to the Solar Exaltation, because it makes no functional difference in the scope of their abilities.

>>53974230
Anon, that's not even making sense. You're making stuff up that the perk doesn't reflect.

So one lets you ignore part of their durability and they both let you ignore the advantages of numbers. Neither of them boost your power to match the enemy.

>>53974247
Similar, not the same.

>>53974271
They cannot do what I described.

>>53973611
Why would you go through the trouble to justify it when you could just be evil?

>>53974227
So why bother buying the perk.

>>53974291
>Similar, not the same.
It sure sounds the same, and it's not like you can't make charms.

>>53974283
Your butthurt shitposting is getting pathetic.

>>53974316
So why offer the version Heavens offered then? It's similar to what they can do and you can make the charms.

>>53974227
>Remove the infinite scaling.
You are just giving bad advice, because of stuff like.
>>53974255
>There are already charms with infinite scaling.
This. There are charms this to literally infinite damage to someone they hit. As in Scion from worm, how he keeps the avatar body healed by drawing mass from his real body. There is a charm that does however much damage it takes to kill that universes worth of mass he has.

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Jumpers, do you have a partner in crime, someone you really enjoy smashing stuff with? Someone you can always count on to join in on your shenanigans, to cause mischief and/or mayhem with?

>>53974085
It was fine before dude. It's literally one guy screaming his head off while everyone else points out how he's wrong. Like the fact that there already are charms that scale to your opponent.

>>53974171
The perk is fine, there appears to only be one anon who has an issue with it which is actually very good for the subject material you are working with.

>>53974327
You were just complaining it was beyond the scope of charms.

>>53974338
Not yet I don't. Anyplace I can find one? Preferably someone I don't have to corrupt into it.

>>53974331
Then at least make all the other perks like this. Make all the capstones equal in use to the perk that automatically scales you to be a match for any foe no matter how strong. And make every single other perk stronger too so you don't have a huge gap in power between 400 and 600 perks too.

>>53974171
You won't get anywhere with this community, mate. Whatever you do or say, it'll never be enough for them. Might as well move on to greener pastures, if you know what I'm saying.

>>53974347
I'm not that anon and I think it's totally broken beyond redemption, but this jump is giving away a Solar Exaltation, so it doesn't matter in the end regardless.

>>53974365
>Make all the capstones equal in use to the perk that automatically scales you to be a match for any foe no matter how strong.
This perk doesn't even do that!

>>53974395
So what does it do then anon? Because Heavens himself hasn't denied the interpretation and seems to be treating it as how it works.

>>53974395
Don't fucking lie. It does. It's right fucking there in the text up thread, everyone can read it, and it clearly scales you up to match any opponent no matter how powerful.

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>>53974171
>That Pic.
Are... Those... Cookies?

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>>53974338
I have had a lot of companions over my chain, it got hard trying to stay with them as equals because I felt I had to try and keep importing them. Now I have a homonculus maid from overlord and I treat her like a toy because she enjoys doing what I want. Got to get a partner that views you as a god so that you no longer feel guilty about not importing them. Then just load them up with stuff you dont have to pay for and go crazy.

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>>53974426
My cookies. None for you.

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>>53974429
>pic

Waaaait a minute. Are you SURE that can go on a blue board?

>>53974324
If you don't understand the basic reality that any jump about Solars will inevitably make itself pointless through it's own absurd power scale, then I don\'t know what to say to you.

>>53974338
I didn't pod him, but while in marvel I teamed up with Deadpool.
Both of us would make 4th wall jokes, create a huge amount of unnecessary structural damage, and I would constantly use my super science and Ghost Rider powers to soup up our rides. We rode everything from flaming Zambonis that could reach 300mph to a flaming skeleton blue whales while constantly dissing other water based heroes from other comic lines like Aquaman.

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>>53974459
You monster.

>>53974417
>>53974423
>and that this will at most close the gap between your opposition
>at most
>at most
>AT MOST
After giving examples of it doing less than leveling the playing field! Are you just shitposting at this point?

>>53974395
Just. Stop. Engaging him. This conversation will literally never end. The thread thinks the perk is fine, with the exception of one idiot who knows fuck all about canon solar charms and a shitposter who 'thinks' that just being a solar is better than the perk anyways.

>>53974467
Do you see anything there anon?

Heavens to Betsy this thread.

>>53974356
SMT Jack Frost and Alice would be good for that, especially if the former becomes Black Frost. Black Frost is usually depicted as someone that loves causing havoc and chaos, with the only exception being DeSu 1, where he was a warrior of love and justice thanks to Midori. In DeSu 2, his summoning and fusion quotes make him sound like a Saturday Morning Cartoon Villain, though one that could actually cause a lot damage if given the chance.

Alice, on the other hand, is totally oblivious to how bad her actions are. Doesn't change the fact that she's usually the cause of the local zombie apocalypse, because that's how she makes 'friends'. Anyway, that all being said, you can get both in SMT, though I think SMT Alice's powers aren't as strong as her DeSu 2 counterpart, who's the most powerful bonus boss in the game, and a strong demon by herself. You have to beat her and her 'uncles', Belial and Nebiros, to gain them as companions there, though. Oh, Belial and Nebiros are also good, though they tend to fret over Alice.

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>>53974356
Cu is always down for some mayhem and chaos

>>53974497
It's true though. Literally nothing the jump can offer will be better than what a solar can do anyway, because a Solar can do anything and everything easily.

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Okay, here's the latest version of my upgraded Peter Pan jump. In addition to the new perks, items, and drawbacks I added previously, I have now added a shadow companion option; I also adjusted the shadow perks and drawbacks accordingly to account for the new option. Please let me know your thoughts on the different changes.

>>53974376
Okay, while I mull over this, let me murder this stupid fucking meme. I am not leaving for SB. I will never leave for SB. Reason being, while I have to deal with a lion's share of shitposting and arguments, half of which don't actually care about what they're posting about, at least the thread has the decency to actually call me out directly on things rather than continually bashing my decisions on jumps and acting like I wasn't there. Anyways.

600 - Sword of the Sun - To fight against the Primordials in their prime with naught but an army of mortals...surely, such a feat should have been impossible, no more possible than an ant slaying a living planet. But it was, and Creation was forever changed by it. Embodying that power to surpass overwhelming odds, your martial prowess is now defined by overcoming superior foes. When fighting a foe with a distinct advantage against you - power, size, scale, or even the amount of soldiers in an army - those advantages become mitigated or even manageable, letting you fight them on more even ground. An enemy who could slay you with a wave of their hand will find it difficult to actually focus their will upon you, a giant finds their size a hindrance instead of a help, while a gigantic army is no more difficult to overcome than a well-armed squad. Be warned that lacking the means to actually fight such enemies - an army of your own, Charms, or such - will merely give you the means to survive or stall the bout. However, should you possess both the means and the will - even the mightiest of legions will falter against you.

Here's what I settled on, hopefully making the intent of the perk clearer. Capstone boost will probably keep the 'overcome or find weaknesses in powerful/absolute foes' bit.

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>>53974459

>>53974467
You have something ahainst frogs?

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>>53974565
>let me murder this stupid fucking meme
It's not a meme, it's a shitpost. He shitposts it at every author after he's bullied them for a bit, it's not even something he throws at you exclusively.

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>>53974487
MINE.

>>53974574
...this is amazing and I am saving it instantly.

>>53974598
>...this is amazing and I am saving it instantly.
You realise this will forever be my mental image of you now, right?

>>53974562
Damn it gotta redo my entire build now.

>>53974619
That is her plan, to stop you from waifuing her busty demon form.

>>53974429
Speaking of that series, what's the best way to try to join the main class without screwing anyone else over? Is it okay to just wank for your chain butterflies mean you end up bumping Grapes down to General Studies, since no one likes him?

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>>53974598
I like cookies, so I accept this.

>>53974619
Red only wanted you to think she was an impossibly beautiful demon, she is actually a red-furred cookie monster!

The truth has been uncovered, Red's secret revealed!

>>53974562
So question.

if we take the option(s) to take along / create a Neverland, approximately how.. "capricious" is it going to be, in comparison to the original Neverland?

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>>53974645
...fucking hell, meant >>53974619.

>>53974646
C IS FOR COOKIE, THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME.

>>53974642
Cease.

>>53974562
I've never read the book, but this jump gives me the impression that Peter is the type of person I would very much like to stab.

>>53974644
I was told before that I could bump off Grapes.

>>53974632
Sorry about that. I hope you'll like the new additions, though.

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Peter Pan
> Age: 15 [Rolled5]
> Location: Neverland Forests [Rolled3]
> Background: Mermaid [-150CP]
> Flying [Get a Freebie!]
> Fairy Fluent [Get a Freebie!]
> Betwixt-&-Between [-50CP]
> They’ll Sweetly Drown You [Get a Freebie!]
> Ocean Secrets [-100CP]
> Siren’s Song [-150CP]
> Good Form in All [-400CP]
> Maid of the Sea [-200CP]
> Pearl Dream [-300CP]
> Book Collection [-50CP]
> Mermaid’s Comb [Get a Freebie!]
> Nautilus Shell [Get a Freebie!]
> Mermaid Treasures [-150CP]
> Another Star: Peter Pan & The Pirates [Get a Freebie!]
> Musical [+50CP]
> Marooned Moon In The Lagoon [+500CP]

Oh boy! A turn of the 90s cartoon show! With SONGS!
> Malefor: "Why do you do this."
Because I enjoy suffering.

Anyway, I'm a mermaid! I guess this is an altform? That's neat. I like collecting those.
I kinda wanted to be a pirate, but I like the mermaid perks better, and... I guess there's nothing really STOPPING me from joining Hook regardless? That seems fun. Did you know that in this adaptation he's voiced by Tim Curry?
Tim Curry is a national treasure.
I'm gonna call him Cap'n Tim, and he will yell at me for it, because his character is not meta at all.
Although he does have surprisingly colourful language for a kids show.

Anyway, the mermaid who grew legs and joined a pirate ship and mothered the crew while bitching constantly and stole treasure and magic. Fallen Moon? NOT MY PROBLEM! Peter can handle it! He does in canon.
And we're gonna sing terrible 90s songs and it'll be GREAT!

>>53974562
That Shadow companion thing is really cool.

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>>53974645

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>>53974662

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Stellaris
Warehouse time 92.2
Scientist 900
Leader 800
Reptilian 700

Species traits
• Adaptive 600
• Natural engineers 500
• Natural physicist 400

Continental world free

Government ethics
• Individualists
• Spiritualists
• Xenophile

Genius free
Dedicated research 300
Reverse engineering 100
The ever expanding tree -200

Items
Glasses free
Fallen blueprints -600


Ethics tech 1000 et
Uplifting and integration 850
A ring that surrounds the sun 350
A shard of metal filled with grass 100
Improved labs 0

Ethics perks 1000 EP
In the name of our god 950
Im the name of god 800
A stand for freedom! 550
Kawaii desu! 400
Anomolous empire 100
Mineral senses 0

Drawbacks
Fallen empires 0


Standard victory


And my race shall take to the stars shouting their spiritual anthem, HORA HORA HORA! The Echidna have risen!

>>53974655
It will be capricious and mischievous, but seeing as you already proved your strength in defying the pull of the original Neverland, your version will be loyal to you. So it will like to cause trouble and encourage you to do fun things, but it won't have control over your actions (or mind), and it will obediently follow your wishes (even if it acts fussy like a kid being sent to the corner for a time-out). I'll make it clearer in the jump.

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>>53974338
I have two, actually. Marceline is always game for a little mischief and pranking, especially when the target is some uppity villain or a life-is-so-serious hero. She's a big fan of using my Packets of Instant Jusenkyo Water and water balloons. Tossing one at Scion at Worm was still her crowning moment for those horrible ten years.

Of course, Scion took issue to being turned into a duck.

Fafnir also enjoys a bout of chaos, but his "pranks" are usually a little more sinister and terrifying. Think jump scare instead of comedy show. But then he has always been more interested in the darker arts ever since I introduced him to Binding Magic from Forgotten Realms.

I did have to ban his "Toilet is actually a Mimic" prank after the first few times due to the mess. His "Forced Possession of a Dance Demon" routine is always a lot of fun though.

>>53974642
It isn't working

>>53974772
Well, I guess it's valid.

Too bad the traits mods aren't in there, or you could have picked "Parasite."

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>>53973611
Sekirei are built for this job anon.

>>53973611
>having official relationships
>not just having friendships where you fuck
I was not built for forever. I was barely built for a fortnight.

>>53974565
>Giving into the retards and nerfing the perk.

Boo.

Still looking forward to the jump though. You make good jumps for the level of stupidity and nitpicking you have to put up with.

>>53974843
>nerf
But it does exactly what everyone arguing for it said it did.

>>53974792
Alright, alright. Thank you much, and thank you for the jump - it's one of those ones where I... Like everything that I read, but at the same time am wondering how Jumper will wind up using it?

... that wasn't a compliment was it. Damn it.

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>>53970909

I grabbed one in Marvel Comics.

First I took Earth 14325 version of Mjolnir. That version can be used by anyone who is unworthy.

616 Thor canonically got it a little bit before the end of the multiverse by the Incursions. I copied it using that item duplication perk from Minecraft.

I also podded Ragnarok, that android duplicate of Thor made by Iron Man during the first Civil War, who has the Earth 13584 version of Mjolnir. He's pic related.

Ragnarok is a bro-tier companion, much like the original Thor.

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>>53974717
>>53974771
Yesssssss.

>>53974807
I SAID CEASE.

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>>53974665
>>53974562
I'm >>53974632 and to give you an idea of what has changed about my build. Here's my old build.

Peter Pan Jump 100:
CP: 1000
Drawbacks:
London Calling [+000]
Where’s My Shadow [+600]
Banished [+500]
Marooned Moon in the Lagoon [+500]
Forever Neverland [+000]
Location: London
Origin: Drop-In
Perks:
Flying [Free]
Fairy Fluent [Free]
Mother Knows Best [Free] (Goes up to -100)
Pixie Dust [-100]
Shadow Sewing [-100] (Goes up to -50)
Star Talking [-300] (Goes down to -250)
Hidden Kisses [-500] (Goes down to -300)
Memory Tidying [-300]
Shadow Biter [-600] (Goes down to -300)
Dreams of Neverland [-400] (Goes up to 600)
Gear:
Teddy Bear [Free] (Goes up to -50)

Companions [-400]

If I'm right about this I'm netting +200 CP from all the changes but I have to retcon in some stuff. Ah well. Think I'll just add a fairy actually, I as a Jumper have a great history with faries!

>>53974663
Just like most people wanna give children a firm spanking, just on a whole new level.

>>53974802
>She's a big fan of using my Packets of Instant Jusenkyo Water and water balloons. Tossing one at Scion at Worm was still her crowning moment for those horrible ten years.
>Of course, Scion took issue to being turned into a duck.
That's hilarious. He'd even lose all of his powers, since they're tied to his "biology".

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>>53974338
The Three Mischievous Fairies of Light - Sunny Milk, Luna Child, and Star Sapphire. Well, they aren't really the violent type, but they love to explore and cause trouble through pranks, a habit I share with them, so whenever I import them to a jump (which I do more often than not), the four of us get into a lot of chaotic, childish mischief. It helps that they tend to focus on perks and items that boost their skills in that area rather than just going for the big hitters.

>>53974813
That could have been cool. But being individualist alien loving religious snake people is good enough for me.

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When has your jumper gotten really weird?

>>53974883
>I SAID CEASE.
NEVER!

>>53974899
Pre first jump.

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>>53974883

>>53974772
Alice please go.

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>>53974883
Such a big tail.

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>>53974899
Hm, well, I was weird before. But things started to get /really/ weird when I turned into a squid.

>>53973964
>Sorry. Just makes zero sense that the Chaos Gods would be totally okay with someone cherrypicking.
CP is not offered by the Chaos Gods, but the benefactor. Perks bought with CP. don't come from the chaos gods, they are offerings come from the benefactor. Like how you could take the jump straight out of Sororitas where you made of enemy of them all. Or served the God of Chaos in Dragonlance. That does mean they refuse to bless you in this jump.

In Harry Potter any background can have the Elder Wand of Philosophers Stone. That does not have to mean some convoluted backstory, to explain how you have a duplicate of a unique thing, it means you received the boon outside of context.

You can buy contradictory perks from opposed backgrounds in Jumpchain.

Like in the new Fire Emblem jump has this EXACT same situation, with blessings from two opposing gods. I have both of those blessings. That does not mean both gods actually blessed me in the chain. It meant one blessing is part of the background, because of writefag, and the other is secret ace in the hole ability. Just like all my other jumpchain powers. But both were purchased with CP, and not something the Dragon Gods can take back. Because in reality, Jump-Chan is the actual source of those blessings.

This sounds like something from your personal chain you are trying to impose on everyone. Which is a problem because jumpchain has been going on you years, without what you are talking about being a thing.

>>53974944
Boobs too big, she smuggles basketballs in there.

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>>53974944
This was a mistake.

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>>53974829
>not removing their programming so they can decide for themselves

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>>53974943
But alice is a good girl.

>>53974981
Do not lewd the snek loli!

How is Cain jump coming?

How is Bane jump coming?

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>>53974963
K.

>>53975008
SON OF A BITCH why. I can't stop laughing.

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>>53975008
IT'S THE CHIBI PYRRHA EDITS ALL OVER AGAIN

>>53975008
That is hilarious.

>>53974899
The two (Carroll) Alice jumps, as they drove me completely bonkers by the end.

Taking advantage of how the whole setting is built on clever (and nonsensical) wordplay, I argued that, seeing as the Cards are from Wonderland, by being a Card I am also a Wonderlander and therefore get the discounts for both. Jump-chan reluctantly went along with it, but made sure that the Royal background couldn't be taken by me as well, and ESPECIALLY made sure that the No Nonsense and Positively Mad perks I took were upped to the level you'd normally get in a drawback, and made me a silly-looking card with a lizard painted on it that would get executed by regular cards if they even found me. Not to mention that I took the drawback keeping my imaginary voice in my head, not realizing that it would drive me even madder.

Then, not knowing when to quit, I readily agreed with Jump-chan's assertion that I could not pull the same stunt in the Looking Glass; instead, I argued, since last time I didn't take the Royal background, I should take it now. I then used that as the vantage point to argue that the Red and White backgrounds were one and the same, so I became the child of both the Red and the White Queen. Of course, Jump-chan then made the verdict that, since I was both colors at once, that meant that I had to fulfill both goals at once, starting at and moving toward the separate ends of the board, as a single person. That was what made me snap. I somehow managed to fulfill that impossible thing, but by then I was completely cracked, with my now-real belief that red = white being just the tip of my iceberg of madness.

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>>53974964
Anon, Red's boobs are completely natural.
I know, because


...


...


...


uh

>>53974717
>>53974645
Socialist isn't a very good or accurate insult. Considering the UK government's latest policies referencing 1984 would have been better.

>>53975044
THIS IS WHY YOU DON'T RULES-LAWYER THE GM

>>53975047
Because you have slept between them?

>>53975047
Nothing Jumpchan does can be considered "natural."

>>53974194
What happened to it?

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>>53970962
>TFW it looks like I killed the Imperial path

So no living saint option at all? I mean I get it if that's the case.

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>>53975062
You should not have asked that, you absolute fool.

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>>53975069
Loyalist is in a separate file for now so I'm not tripping over myself working on it. I wish I could get rid of it, but I'm neck deep by now.

>>53975047
KONOTA NO.

>>53973611
>Alternatively how do you justify harems without mindfucking those in it?
I don't bother justifying it and I just mind fuck away with harem perks.

Though I admit that sometimes I feel like having only one waifu. Or at least one with Split personality disorder.

>>53975008
What a fearsome demon.

>>53975062
His girlfriend left him and he's been putting in a lot super feminist, sjw, man-hating stuff.

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>>53975062
The creator turned it from a comic mainly about the cute romance between a guy and a succubus, into a monstrous SJW comic about fighting the oppression and programming of the patriarchy. He even has the succubus be 'liberated' from the guy to go off and be empowered on her own and has him castigated for being a sexist. There are entire arcs about him learning how he was sexist and privileged and a downright shitlord.

>>53975057
Well, I sort of wanted to be all silly in those two jumps, so I didn't mind that Jump-chan would punish my little loopholes with extra madness. I just underestimated how catchy the lunacy of those worlds is, such that I start to have trouble seeing rational thinking as anything but illogical compared to the nonsensical logic I now have.

>>53974863
I thought he turned into a murderous psychopath that had to he put down by Hercules or something?