Warhammer 40,000 General - /40kg/

First for Morale affects everyone

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Nth for femarines are cute! Cute!!

>>53936918
don't make these new threads so fast you stupid dummy

what configuration is good for a dreadnought? can lascannon/fist work? are ironclads with hurricane bolters and chainfist good? they just look so cool

>>53936932
whateverth for Marines being affected by morale is fucking stupid.

>>53936932
Unless you are Orks in 10+ squads, IG in 10+ squads with comissars around, etc etc etc

There are surprisingly a big amount of stuff that can ignore for long time the moral system.

>>53936952
Page 9 for the old thread seems fine.

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>>53936932
hehe, jokes on you-- everyone but guard!

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Hydras. Good, bad, situational? Seems nice since they get a +1 to hit against more than just aircraft and anything with fly

>>53936918
What's with the circular drum on all the primarine weapons?

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>>53936932
>First for Morale affects everyone
>Ork mobs are pretty much immune to morale checks now

>>53936991
It really depends what you fight. Against Tau it's hilarious.

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What do you plan to do with your existing marines?

Why haven't you sold them already?

>>53936968
>too many things ignore moral
>makes new edition where moral matters
>except all these factions that ignore it

Nothing changes

>>53936968
>There are surprisingly a big amount of stuff that can ignore for long time the moral system.

Just like in every edition really. Morale and LD never truly matters

I'm glad "fear" is gone though. fuck that shit the ultimate waste of time rule. Also Soul blaze. good riddance

>>53937032
GW is like war.
It never changes.

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>>53937008
Plasma canister presumably.

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Thoughts? I'm worried that I have too much close shit and not enough long range shit. Also the Rhino is supposed to be a Repressor

>>53937030
Because I'm in it for the modelling and painting and I don't sell minis that I've already painted because they are milestones on my road to improvement,

>>53937032
thank god you have snipers right?

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>>53937040

Just wait until we come for you!

>>53937049
Not that, the piece above the magazine, behind the barrel. That's on all their weapons, regardless of the type. Plasma and bolter.

how should i build my ig to completely crush my tyranid playing friend?

>>53937049
das cool gun

>>53937032
As-is people complain about Marines being affected at all. You can snipe commissars, you can focus synapse creatures, you can either try to kill the ork mob emboldening the rest, or try to separate other units from it.

While there are factions that can essentially ignore morale, they don't do so in a manner that offers no counterplay.

>>53937012
>Orkz are finally too stupid to be afraid

>>53937102
rough riders :^)

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>Chaosfags (mostly Carnac) are salty as hell over the fact that Khorne's Blood Crusade decided it'd be a great idea to try and attack Octarius, and got stonewalled by the Orks and Nids already fighting each other until the daemons left via warp storm, meaning the mortal Khorne followers (INCLUDING KHARNE AND THE WORLD EATERS) got left behind

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Thoughts on pic related for a 1k Drukhari starter? I know I'd probably be better spamming blasters on the Scourges, but you only get 1 of each gun per box (and I'm trying not to just do darklight spam like every DE list)

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>>53937102
Tanks

>>53937102
We 8th ed now son

unless you have 600 memescripts. Tyranids crush YOU

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>>53937062
>1001
>literally cheating

>>53937062
Dominions of any squad size can only take 4 guns correct? Also needs more stormbolters.

>>53936955
anyone?

>>53937062
>1001 points
Try again

By the way to you can edit names.

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>>53936932
>implying

>>53937071
mah nigga

>>53937088
Idk about the plasma, but do you mean the place where they mount scopes on the bolt rifle?

>>53937062
>1001 points
>mistress and no Repentias to use her skills
>5 guns in Dominions squads

Are you intentionally trolling?

>>53937157
>i literally cannot comprehend friendly noncomp games due to autism:the post

>>53937102
IG vs Nids is a very even match-up.

You can't just listbuild your way to victory, the player who better understands positioning in the Charge/Fight phase is going to win.

Scions are sick good though, I recommend a lot of them.

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>>53937174
I think he's talking about this

>>53937155

yeah nids are grossly undercosted. especially since they're almost all goddamn psykers too.

>>53937201
He is still cheating with Dominions. If we are not respecting the point system or unit composition might as well not bother with an army list at that point

I want to get into the UK competitive 40k scene. Any tips? I know I won't win shit but I'd like to experience a big tourney or two. Thinking of aiming for best painted doing an airbrushed nid Godzilla list.

>>53937030
My marines are heavily converted with lots of helmets and guns and shoulder pads and whatnot. I may end up freezing them so I can easily break off the superglued bits I want and transferring them to larger models

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>>53937211
Ya, I know, he's also saying it's on the bolters too. I just know that round thing is for scopes on bolt rifles, idk how it's used on plasma rifles.

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why don't the chaos marines look more corrupted? I mean the current models don't look like they have been in the warp for millennia. the death guard and the thousand sons are a great step I hope the chaos marines get a more corrupted set soon. until then i'm going to kit bash with possessed and the raptors . how do you guys make your chaos marines look more like chaos marines?

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dumb question, but i thought that modifiers could save you from auto-fail 1's?

>>53937215
I can't think of any nid units that are blatantly undercosted except for special characters and maybe genestealers (but not by very much). Some of their stuff is in fact still overcosted.

The thing that makes them powerful is that players deploy badly against them and get rekt on turn 1. They're used to playing gunlines in 7th that didn't have to worry about a bunch of shit which is now completely different in 8th.

>>53937249
it just depends on the god, i guess
i dont see any reason for khorne to mutate his followers if its just extra arms like pink tranny, green papa or blue nerd

>>53937249

Not all chaos is corrupt. Many marines are still as pure as the heresy. Not everyone's a mutant fuck up

https://www.frontlinegaming.org/2017/06/18/making-the-case-for-using-power-level-points-in-tournaments/

WTF is this shit.

>>53937257
No.

>>53937267
I've also seen that nids have a lot more flexibility on the table now and don't have to follow the old 'castle' formation.

>>53937257
That is a dumb question, since Some one, presumably you, yourself, underlined the fucking text in the rules that flatly and totally contradicts you.

>>53937246
Because GW was probably designing it based on making it look futuristic and sci-fi rather than being practical or realistic

>>53937257
1s always fail. Otherwise you could turn Kharn into a even bigger murderbeast.

>>53937292
retarded bullshit that's never going to happen and is only supported by lazy TOs and people who aren't serious tournament players

>>53937292
He's basically arguing for malifaux. Rather than fixed equipment lists you have a power points listed then pick equipment as you set up. It makes sense but it makes the game increasingly pay to win since you need more options or to put magnets on everything

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>>53937249
If anything I'm annoyed at HOW corrupt they are in a sense of being too busy and not consistent. Yeah yeah I get that it's chaos, but you look at Age of Sigmar's chaos guys and all their shit despite being evil looking chaos forged hell armor, it's all still clean and consistent armor trims and engravings rather than random spikes and horns jutting out of armor and being generally unpleasing to look at. You have factions like the Iron Warriors who are chaos, but openly hate the chaos gods and cut off any mutations and replace them with bionics. If anything they should look like body horror rotting corpse fiends with tubes everywhere with the occasional chaos star on their armor, yet because the armor designs are inconsistent as fuck, we have wierd as horned helmets and random spikes that don't make sense for a faction like them.

>>53937249
Because the chaos marine scuplts are old as dog shit.
Everyone thought the chosen from dark vengeance were the tits- so naturally, old retarded Kirby GW did nothing with them.
The new direction from the Kharn model, the TS range, and new DG ranges actually LOOK like chaos marines.
GW finally realized no one gives a shit about renegades people wanted the traitor legions

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The forces of the Imperial Guard Anglican 3rd Regiment had been brought to battle once again as it had turned out Primarch Guilliman's creations weren't as loyal as they seemed.
Around 1,200pts (My opponent and I are both new to 8th)
Killpoints
And sorry anons for the lack of batreps still haven't gotten my Index yet and I was waiting for some 8th Ed games.

>>53937331
I hope so, power levels are aweful. Like if I want 6 dudes to fill up a razorback I would have to pay enough power for 10 and just not take them, only being able to take models in 5 or 10 is fucking retarded.

>>53935550 was asking about Clowns last thread. If you're still around, my advice is to take Starweavers. They're god tier transports and Harlies really need them. Walking is not fun.

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>>53937279
>>53937285
im talking more along the lines of their armor like the marines in the pic I posted are perfect and a lot of the legion marines would have spines and warp mutations on the armor.

>>53937341
I get that I suppose but their armor should look more organic and less like a space marine or it's the same thing. the pic I posted and what I posted before is what im talking about

>>53937311
Yeah but that's just having good design for once. It's not a sign of being undercosted.

>>53937341
I agree, simple but effective can make things iconic without having to be a clusterfuck of random details.

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Alright, been wanting to get into 40k for a while, might as well do it with a new edition. Is the list alright in general? The other thing I'm unsure about is the Terminator loadout so any advice on that would be much appreciated.

>>53937292
His argument for points balance across loadouts is completely laughable. He uses Knights which have different power levels for each type of loadout. So he basically fails to address at all the biggest issue with PL in a competitive setting. Not happening.

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>>53937360
I agree the legions should look like organic monsters fused to their armor and fucked up beyond recognition. as a slaanesh marine player i'm waiting for my EC legion update and in the meantime just kitbashing with the raptors and possessed

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>110 point Razorback instantly removed from play if it rolls a single 1 shooting a supercharged Plasma Gun
Whats the most expensive model that can be instant killed by plasma overheat? This shit seems too risky to use on non-mooks even with rerolls.

>>53937363
Its okay anon, it doesn't matter how long the gap is between batreps, its worth the wait because the wait is shorter than the time since my last game, which was like, a year ago

>>53937267
Trygon looks undercosted to me.

>>53937401
I'm not speaking about cost. I've yet to play a round but I've watched a nids vs. SM where the Marines got their shit wiped out because the SM player wasn't ready for nids that could actually charge without wasting a move phase to keep in synapse range.

Anyone have pics of the Dark Vengeance starter set update book? the one that comes with new data sheets for the dark angels and chaos marines

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>>53937360
>Because the chaos marine scuplts are old as dog shit.
not entirely the case, pick related.
>>53937249
I think they were dialing back from the 80s shit wanted to get more organization and their current plastic methods could not really handle this (see the old lost and the damned and the possessed for more information)

>>53937320
I'll probably be sanding down the iron sight and sticking the scope on the rail personally. Such a weird design decision for an otherwise pretty good looking gun.

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>>53937406
That's all I fucking want for an Iron Warriors army, and I've been wracking my brain trying to figure out how to do that. I could sculpt some cog pattern trim on them to help associate their effecient, tech focused iron men aesthetic, but then they look out of place when put next to the rest of the chaos line. Then you look at how things like the warsmith has the cog trim on his legs, but then goes to the angular triangle trim on his pauldrons and it annoys the fuck out of me because it's two different trims on the same model and not consistent. I want a simple and effective "Gets the job done" look for em but can't figure out how to do that without making em look like Space Marines, and also at the same time show that they are chaos.

>>53937257
you can save yourself from dying to overheats, but not from missing. +1 to hit is still really powerful on plasma/ion units

>>53937426
chaos land raider?

What works well with Cron Quixote and Vanguard poncha?

Anyone know what's on Preorder this week?

I need more Big Guys.

Where are they?

>>53937426
So either keep it in reroll range or don't supercharge it. Also, probably a chaos lord. They can get pretty fucking crazy in points costs with all the upgrades they can take.

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first time playing, how do I organise this. all my stuff is in the mail still but I have one dark imperium box set and two extra squads of hellblaster marines coming.

>>53937426
Can't some knights suffer from it I read?

>>53937484
+1 hit seems incredibly rare in 40k compared to AoS. I've looked through most armies and I can only remember like one dude that gives it out.

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>>53937363
The Guardsman took initiative and immediately started pouring fire into the massive armored warriors. The Executioners spitting plasma bringing down one of the Warlord's Lieutenant and Librarians who stood exposed in the open air. A Chimera moving forward to spit laser fire at the Marines.

>>53937530
>, how do I organise this.
uh anon to help you i think i need a little more clarification.
your chart looks fine

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Jumping on the meme train.

Drone uprising! Maybe some converted heavy drones with modules and weapons as commanders, and a custom firesight marksman warlord on a flamethrower jetpack leading swarms of drones.

Fusion commanders melt 4 priority targets, CIB commanders whittle down secondary targets, drones cover the field and objectives while blazing S5 fire, detachable/marker drones bubblewrap the flamer warlord to boost BS.

>>53937530
>I am babby pls spoon feed me because I am too lazy to use google or look on the warhammer community site

Just quit babby. This hobby isn't for you.

>>53937575
Edit: list is also 99 points. Can fit an additional 9 marker drones if playing by PL.

>>53937561
>having a character be the closest model to your opponent on turn 1
>40,999
ishygddt

>>53937530
look at that Primaris army. Zero customization options, tiny unit count, brain dead power values. Is this the future of 40k?

>>53937616
It's the past and present of 40k too

Could anyone share the page with the 1V1V1 rules? Our playgroup has whittled down to 3 guys recently and Im kind of excited they actually considered it.

>>53937479
Mk III armor is usually incorporated with a lot of Iron Warriors stuff I've seen, you could probably do a lot with it because it has a lot of things like rivets and layered plates. Another thing you could do to add some simple Chaos aesthetic is adding horns to the helmets. Worse comes to worse you can start pooring out your wallet and buy conversion kits from ForgeWorld.

>>53937566
ok thanks. I haven't read the book yet so I was hoping the extra 2 squads I got wouldn't go against the force org chart

>>53937578
been doing 40k for years (modeling) first time I actually wanted to play the game behind the models

>>53937616
believe me the models themselves will be heavily customised to a roman theme

>>53937553
yeah, it's not nearly as common. off the top of my head: longstrike to nearby hammerheads and 5 markerlights (which you probably won't bother with often since everything between 1-5 isn't worth it and 1 is good enough).

-1 to hit isn't as uncommon though. venomtropes making you overheat on a 2, or ghostkeels making you overheat on a 3... stuff like that is really nasty, especially since it's applied after rerolls

>>53937650
>believe me the models themselves will be heavily customised to a roman theme
I mean the actual weapon and equipment options.

>>53937426
Sammael on Corvex I think? 183 points. Maybe some other plasma wielding character. Leman Russ gets a special rule that "reduces" it to six mortal wounds and Dreadnoughts and some other big stuff use a different profile that only deals one mortal wound. Interestingly Kharn must ALWAYS fire overcharged, but only takes 1 MW on a roll of 1.

>>53937475
> ACKUALYY
And the pic disproves me...how, exactly?
The current chaos space marine kit is from What? 3rd or 4th edition? It's fucking ridiculous they haven't been upgraded

>>53937650
>been doing 40k for years (modeling) first time I actually wanted to play the game behind the models

I don't believe you Babby; if it's true then you truly are a dimwit. How can someone with so much experience be so slow as to not pick up the very basic breadcrumb trail to follow?

>>53937249
Basically because the idea of Chaos Marines (I guess "Heretic Astartes" now) covers three different things:
1) Traitor Legions (Night Lords, Iron Warriors ,etc.)
2) Chaos cults (Berzerkers, Plague Marines, etc.)
3) Renegade marines (Astral Claws, Soul Drinkers, etc.)

>>53937670
I specifically want to play primaris marines so people can't get confused with what my army is equipped with after I heavily convert them. instead of some "what you see is what you get" retardation and some WAAC player tries to get my army disqualified

>>53937695
(you)

>>53937489
>>53937538
Land Raiders don't use Plasma. Neither do Knights unless you're talking about some forgeworld variant or something.

>>53937738
chaos land raiders could take a combi-plasma, not that you ever would

>>53937708
I'm sorry for hating on you Anon; I'll stop now.

Look into detachments. You need to fit your army into one of those; my LGS plays at 50PP; so I use a batallion detachment for my Space Wolves.

You want between 2 - 3 HQ, between 3 - 6 troops and whatever else you can take until it adds up to 50 PP.

>>53937479
I always just make them wear the occasional metal Chaos star, or leave armor a tad dirtier. The types of bayonets, bolt pistols, and chainswords make a big difference too

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>>53937561
Tank Commander Philip Ironwall even managing a few kills on the plasma armed renegades in his trusty Vanquisher "Grey Lady" laughing to himself as he saw his enemies shattered.
>>53937613
He had two characters as the closest models to my Executioners. The plasma cannons were put to good use.

>>53936964
The favorite child suddenly can't handle the other children getting attention, cute.

>>53937678
i think he is showing that in RT chaosmarines were in fact supermutated and if you think them being too vanilla is a problem, the fault is not the age of the miniatures.

>>53937769
>Multiple Kills
>Vanquisher
Anon.....please dont be a cheater

>>53937616
We've already seen that there's options coming in the actual releases, though.
The current state of primaris marines is due to the fact that they're only releasing rules for models already out.

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>tfw no one ever shows up at my lgs to play 40k even with 8th edition out now

>>53937678
Yeah, >>53937782 said it better than i could have.
I don't believe you were entirely wrong.

>>53937530
That will fit in a Spearhead detachment and a Patrol detachment. You only need the patrol because you have an extra HQ everything else fits in the Spearhead. So you just take one HQ and one Troop to be the Patrol detachment.

If you had one more troop you could fit the whole army in a Battalion detachment and get two extra command points. Or a Battalion and a Spearhead and get 3 extra.

>>53937791
dude there's a lazcannon in front

>>53937635
Also interested. Bump?

>>53937644
>>53937767
good suggestions. How about a Helbrute? looks a bit too organic for Iron Warriors given their whole "Fuck Chaos, replace it with bionics" mindset, how do I go about doing a Helbrute that's a hideous monstrosity that's hooked up to shit loads of tubes and still looks evil without the wierd organic arms and legs?

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>>53937769
The Astartes moved up. Lumbering towards the Guardsmen with bloodlust in their hearts. The deadly accurate fire of bolt rifles killing a few Guardsmen at long range but it was their reinforcements that would do the most damage.

>>53937795
Tournaments are the only way to get any action. And even then you have to go and find out where they're holding the damn things, which means Googling every single gaming store in your town (and maybe even calling them on the phone), and then calling all the gaming stores in nearby cities within a comfortable driving distance for you.

did the forgeworld index book for adeptus astartes got completely postet now? if not i would screenshot the missing pieces and upload them now

>>53937575

Marksman and Pulse accel drones would further boost your drones lethality

>>53937865
Battle Reports are gay. Just give us the results and the highlights. We don't give a shit about details like this.

>>53937774
If you want to take a Thousand Son's Army (that is an Army with the Faction Thousand Sons), you can only take units in the list. However, there is no reason to do this right now. There are no rules benefits from taking a Thousand Son's Army. Instead, you can take a Chaos Army or Heretic Astartes army (one where the shared keyword is Chaos or Heretic Astartes), and just take Thousand Son's Units.

Later, when the Thousand Sons get a proper supplement, there may be special rules that only apply if Thousand Sons is your Army keyword.

Contrast this to the Ynnari army rules, which specifically only apply if Ynnari is your army faction keyword.

You can't take Haemonculus covens units in such an army, because they don't have the Ynnari keyword. Since they don't have the ynnari keyword, Ynnari can't be your Army faction keyword. Instead, Aeldari is. If Ynnari isn't your army keyword, then things like Drukhari Kabalite Warriors can't benefit from the special rules.

Does that help?

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>>53937530
Congratulations. You win. Good game.

>>53937912
problem is, the legion specific rules added by characters and units do not work outside of specific units. magnus for example can only grant his aura to units that are listed in the thousand son section.

>>53937949
That's true, I should have specified that. Thanks.

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>>53937865
Bolter fire from above tore into the mass of Guard infantry wiping out a whole squad.
>>53937791
I had Plasma cannons on it too.
>>53937905
I'll do an image per turn to speed things up is that good?

>>53937949

Sort of? You can select <Thousand Sons> for any unit with an otherwise undefined <Legion> keyword.

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>>53937977
In revenge a mass of Las fire tore into the new arrivals. Precise fire hitting the gaps in the armor and bring them down. Plasma cannon fire took out the remaining Hellblasters vaporizing the Marines with ease. The Renegades were not defeated however.

>>53937977
>I'll do an image per turn to speed things up is that good?

Fine. If you ABSOLUTELY MUST. But I'd rather you just spit out who won and why. And maybe some interesting shit that happened. But talking us through one set of dudes approaching the other is not an attention-getter. I don't give a fuck how much of a time-honored tradition Battle Reports supposedly are, nor how many White Dwarf magazines they've been in. Most people just skip to the end of those damn things anyway.

>>53937863
Use a dreadnought, and tech-heresy that bitch up. Add in a bit of siegecraft, and wibbou, you got yoursekf an iron warriors sandwich

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>>53938010
nope, only the units in pic related can be 1ksons

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>>53938010

no you cant you cannot simply take a chaos lord or bikers or regular CSM and give them <Thousand Sons>. they would not profit from ahrimans or magnus aura.

thats the issue with the chaos FW book aswell. hence the massive amount of questions they got because of that.

Are deathwatch dreadnoughts being forced to take normal Plasma Cannons that kill them outright instead of the Heavy Plasma Cannons that only remove 1 wound on a 1

best weapon loadout for an assault marine sarge?

>>53937905
>>I hate things I can ignore that someone else might potentially enjoy

>>53936932
>tau immune to morale

Watched one of the FLG vids for a couple days ago, they heavily implied a balance patch of some sort is coming soon. The exact context was "I know the cheesy build for IG right now is maxing out command squads but I would say wait a bit before going out and buying tons of those, just some friendly advice that we can't say more about".

So anyone concerned about cheese spam builds, this is as close to confirmation as we're going to get that GW is working on the hotfixes already. I think there's definitely a possibility we could see this extended to conscripts, among other things.

>>53937795
Facebook groups is what keeps me gaming desu, that and like the other guy said, tourneys

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calcium?

Not that guy but why not type it all out in paint then upload it?
You can potentially squeeze it all into one post and the other spaz need not click

>>53938107
Yeah, turn-by-turn battle reporting. Whoo! My guys walked towards the other guys and shot at them. I'm on the edge of my seat!

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>>53938020
They would not give the battle up without a fight. The heretic commander gathered up and concentrated his forces to break the Guard lines slaughtering the disembarked Guard infantry and making even more flee.

>>53937882
its still MiA if you wanna be a bro and post it

>>53938141
What are you talking about, anon? Type what in?

>>53936932
>Implying my Poxwalker care

Dude they don't even eat anymore. I don't think they can even SEE what you are doing.

>>53937460
Trygons are surprisingly fragile. Toughness 6 and only 12 Wounds dies very quickly to stuff like melta-plasma. The key to beating Trygons is to not leave the things you have that counter them out somewhere they can get charged. It's very easy to create buffer zones with screening units that prevent them from tunneling in within 12" of your heavy weapons. Absorb the charge, fall back turn 2 and gun them down. Even if they survive with a couple Wounds their damage output drops dramatically when they're crippled.

>>53938154
Kek

I was just ignoring it but I agree with you; it some autist thinking people care about his life. This isn't a blog for some faggot to post fanfic hiding behind a battle report. If I want to watch a battlereport I'll go on youtube rather than looking at blurry pics taken by an Autist's potato.

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Way to keep it fucking clear cut, GW

>>53938025
I for once am not excited to see garish bases and barely painted Russ every thread

>>53938136
>no ghost arc
>no tesla immortals
>no deciever shard

Sorry, your list is shit. You need to include the three mandatory units I listed above.

>>53938210
generally the more specific rules overwrite the general ones.
in this case, if you're not playing Matched Play, use left.
if you are using Matched Play, use right.

>>53938210
Welp, in fantasy army book rules overruled BRB rules, and AFAIK its the same in 40k
So..

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Thoughts?

>>53938160
What did you have in the chimeras?

>>53938177

The battle report write up

See >>53937865
>>53937905

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>>53938025
>>53938141
Honestly I think I owe /40kg/ a batrep because I haven't really done one recently. But I'll think about the idea and maybe do it for small point games
>>53938160
The Guard firepower turned to open fire into the Traitors knowing that if they didn't more brave Imperial soldiers would die and they bathed the Marines in plasma fire killing more but still they couldn't stop the rapid advance.

>>53938197
That's exactly where I'm coming from. We live in an age where Battle Reports are now posted on YouTube, where people who actually like that sort of thing can watch exactly what moved where, rolled what, killed whatever, and have some banter on the side.

Pic-by-pic battle reports are just glorified fanfic wanking over the imaginary fluff of the poster's special snowflake army.

>>53937670
Their kits aren't even out yet, we only have the rules for the snapfit boxed set models.

Deathwatch: Overkill came with shit like 12 Neophyte Hybrids with Autoguns, 2 with Mining Lasers, 2 with Grenade Launchers.

Then the real kits came out with a fucking retarded amount of options and customization.

>>53938047
Looking at the Space Wolf one as it has a lot of angular armor trims and can easily sand down the wolf sigils and put in a helbrute head. Thoughts?

>>53938210
>>53938233
>>53938240
Well then, Brigades and moral immunity for everyone

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>>53938243
I'm not overly familiar with Dark Eldar, but the rest looks fine. The D3 on the Scythes is hit or miss so be warned you'll do very well or very poorly.

Here's ,ine BTW. It says Craftworlds, but it's Ynnari.

>>53938210
I think they might have meant Power.

>>53938294

Fortunately the D3 on the scythes is a great place for a command point re-roll.

>>53938289
Yep. I should easily be able to take 2 brigades in a 1000 point army if following the index paragraph

>>53938275
Fuck off faggot, people actually contributing to the thread with pics and batreps is a thousand times better than you autists who shit it up at the drop of a hat over traps, power level autism, people posting fanart you don't like, etc. etc.

If you don't like the battle report you can fuck off. I won't bother replying to you again, so if you keep having a tantrum don't expect further (You)s.

Someone help me with a Genestealer cults list? What are my best options when choosing units/best wargear?

>>53938289
oh and sergeant upgrades for everyone
>1 5 man assault squad =11 attacks
>5 1 man assault squads = 15 attacks
>4 extra attacks on one of the worst cqc units

i just had a stompa turn a heldrake into mist in a single phase. full health to dead. good ol' 4 str 20 ap -5 6 damage smashes

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>>53938270
I'll skip to last turn. He managed to kill the special weapons squad inside the Chimera but even though it only had one wound left he still was unable to kill it and with only his Captain and Chaplain still alive on turn five he finally admitted defeat. It was a lot more fun than my other experiences with 8th and It really got some enthusiasm out of me.
>>53938197
>>53938217
Ehhh that's cool anons. I just like posting games and shit once and awhile just to break up some of the shitposting but I'll try to keep it to just some highlights.
>>53938251
Special weapons team.

>>53938161
aight, will take photos and post them in a few. gonna get all the missing pieces. give ma 15-20 mins max

>>53938381
A shitton of killpoints though!

>>53938358
People just want to shitpost. Not long ago they were sperging out because they didn't want people asking for list help in 40kg. Apparently nobody is allowed to create content

>>53938390
Thanks man

>>53938358
I'm just doing the poster a service by informing him that a majority of us don't care, and you are probably the one and only autist waiting with bated breath as he informs you that his dudes rolled a few dice. So he shouldn't waste his time on this shit.

>>53938375
I too am interested in genestealer cults.

>>53938388
>I'll skip to last turn. He managed to kill the special weapons squad inside the Chimera but even though it only had one wound left he still was unable to kill it and with only his Captain and Chaplain still alive on turn five he finally admitted defeat.

There, was that so hard? Definitely your best post of the whole report.

>>53938405
>Nobody is allowed to create content

Not if the content is trash fanfic that nobody cares about other than the Autist posting it. Go back to red dit so you can get approval from the other attention seekers.

>>53938416
>majority of us
>I know what everyone who visits 40kg wants
>>53938452
kys

>>53938275
>>53938197
>>I hate original on-topic content that some people enjoy but which impacts me in no way, better shit all over someone who puts in effort to make the average 40kg less cancerous. Everyone in this anonymous board shares my opinion.
I kind of hate you guys. This dude posts fairly regularly with generally positive feedback from several anons.

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>tfw want to build a nice and fluffy army list
>all I can think of is a single unit of Custodes to put in it and that's it
fugg

>>53938470
Oh STFU. Having to skim by your posts bitching about battle reports is more annoying than the guy at least posting OC, even if it's boring OC.

And you call him the autist. ffs.

>>53938191
They're melee dreds with more wounds, faster speed, better damage, and free deep strike.

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Well did anyone else play any games recently? And fellow Guard anons what have you been running/how have your games been going?

>>53938390
>tfw Lord Inquisitor Hector Rex still sucks in the Forgeworlds rules

Guess I'll keep using Draigo's ruleset for him...

>>53938438
Oooh. I hear they are pretty mid tier in this edition, which is where I like it.

>>53938499
>This dude posts fairly regularly with generally positive feedback from several anons.

Tolerance wears thin.

t. someone who never gave a shit about his posts but have long grown tired of them yet doesn't say anything about it

Silent majority works both ways. There is probably tons of people who would rather he shut the fuck up but simply won't bother to tell him to.

>>53938388
GGA don't listen to these fags, just keep doing your thing. You are one of the best contributors in the general these days.

One of these guys literally does nothing but shitpost all day every day about whatever he can find an excuse to shitpost about and then when people tell him to shut up he spergs out about the reddit boogeyman for like 3 hours. These parasites don't even deserve to share the same thread as you, don't pay them any mind and eventually they'll fuck off.

>>53938540
>There is probably tons of people who would rather he shut the fuck up but are simply to polite to bother to tell him to.
FTFY

>>53936932
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>>53938470
Kill yourself. Tonight.

>>53938499
Nobody here cares for his autism other than you. If this board is so cancerous then why don't you fuck off to red dit so you can circle jerk with the rest of your ilk (faggots).

Theres better ways to hit the image limit than with shitty photos posted by the most uninteresting fanfic writer to ever grace the internet.

>>53938492
no u

>>53938499
If nothing else, his shitposts of every excruciating detail of a game fluffed up to wank over some fanfiction about his dudes only contributes to having to jump from one general to the other so god damn fast when people would rather discuss other things.

>>53938517
Just waiting for 8th ed Heralds of Ruin rules to come out so me and friend can play that desu

>>53938585
COLDSTEEL

>>53937040
>Also Soul blaze. good riddance
>tfw the ultimate Daemon-killing purityfags in the galaxy weren't able to kill a Daemon because they literally LITERALLY couldn't hurt him

Purifiers vs. Avatar of Khaine lmao

>>53938516
They cost more, have lower toughness, don't benefit from any of the aura buffs in the army, and our normal dread equivalents are weaker than melee dreads.

It's almost like racial balance is asymmetric and some armies are better at some things than others.

>>53938517
Really hoping to get a game in soon, I'm anxious to see how my platoon performs with the new rules. Even more anxious to see how durable leman russes are first hand

Cam anyone point me to where I can find the Shadow Wars: Armageddon rules? (Not the faction sheets)

>>53938558
>You are one of the best contributors in the general these days.
>implying that's a good thing

That low ass bar you set just shows how shit the generals are lately.

>>53938629
Theres a shadow war thread active right now; theres a mega in the third or fourth post in I believe.

>>53938558
THE ABSOLUTE MAD MAN

>>53938558
>and then when people tell him to shut up he spergs out

But that's what you're doing.

>>53938470
mods please ban this faggot already

we need OC and rats like this are killing 4chan in general

>>53938540
You don't speak for anyone but yourself. There's plenty of people among the 'silent majority' who think battle reports are great.

>>53938661
You don't speak for anyone but yourself. There's plenty of people among the 'silent majority' who thinks his battle reports are shit.

>>53938243
Lance/rifle razorwings look like ravagers with more move and a free -1 to be hit to me.

>>53938470
>>53938452
>>Continuing to be this toxic for no reason
No one cares what you think about anything, fuckman. If the scant interaction you receive online is the only thing keeping you threaded to waking up again every day, I hope your internet dies and you finally eat that bullet that's been waiting for you in your dresser drawer the last few years.

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>>53938631
>That low ass bar you set just shows how shit the generals are lately.

Drive by anon here. There are 82 unique posters in this thread. You can't complain about how shitty things are when you're over 1% of the problem.

Make a difference. Be a better poster.

>>53938661
>>53938668
It seems we've come full circle

>>53938661
>contracts "there are" into "there's"

You don't speak at all, apparently.

>>53937426
Theres some sort of HQ landraider that has a dude that can shoot a fucking plasma pistol.

Its called a Land Raider Excelsior. Anyway yeah that is a bajillion points and will die from the new rule.

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>>53938684
That's usually what happens in a circlejerk.

Wey hey!

>>53938668
>contracts "there are" into "there's"

You don't speak at all, apparently.

>>53938680

Funny, considering I haven't posted in this thread at all until you dipshits started sperging out in retaliation to someone sperging out at you for good reason.

The reason the generals are shit is because everyone's grown tired of your garbage and left.

>>53937738
Land Raider Excelsior.

Are there any necron dynasties who are trying to get their souls back?

>>53938540
>There is probably tons of people who would rather I shut the fuck up
Fixed

His batrep would've taken ~5 posts
Your derailment will probably stretch over 30 posts of arguing.
Thanks, hero.
No wonder we have like 4 spinoff threads about 40k gaming and factions at all times. Most people who actually wants to talk about the game gave up on these threads.

>>53938675
>I hope your internet dies and you finally eat that bullet that's been waiting for you in your dresser drawer the last few years.

*tips fedora*

>>53938661
>>53938668
Welp, I guess you'll both just have to accept that neither of you have any power of whether another anon decides to contribute or not, so the ones that enjoy it can continue to enjoy it and the ones that don't can waste their time bitching and moaning or they can accept that not every post in the general threads is going to be exactly to their liking and they can change the subject or talk about something else.

Maybe we can all start acting like adults in here and instead of freaking out when someone posts something we don't like and giving it (You)'s we can ignore it and post competing content that wins on its own merit by virtue of being more interesting.

Here's an example so you faggots don't bitch that I'm being a hypocrite:

What balance changes are people hoping/expecting to see come in the first update based on games they've played or witnessed so far?

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okay guys, sorry for the quality my lighting isnt the best. here we start:

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>>53937749
4 U

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Favorite legion?

>>53938732
That's not even the person who originally started complaining, GG dipshit.

>>53937246
On there it looks like a slide for clearing jams or ejecting shells, which bolters sometimes may or may not produce depending on author and artist.

It is pretty dumb to have that blocked by a scope in either case.

>>53938470
No, Im sick of this shit. You want retarded memes and endless shitpost? Then fuck off with your ass blasted nigger opinions, I'd rather see battle reports and minis then whatever passes for content in your barely human brain.

You make me sick, here's your (You) maybe you can gain some dignity with it.

>>53938416
>majority

Do you often find yourself assuming that your opinons must be the same as the majority? Might want to look into that ego

>>53938767
Alpha

>>53938740
>Maybe we can all start acting like adults
>Here's an example so you faggots don't bitch that I'm being a hypocrite:

Way to lead by example

>What balance changes are people hoping/expecting to see come in the first update based on games they've played or witnessed so far?

Boring discussion there Mr No Fun. It's like you're some kind of new fag that has never been to 4chan before the last couple of days. You belong on red dit with the other "srs business" fags.

>>53938740
Changes to various weapons; for example, making plasma less of an obvious choice.

>>53938732
>His batrep would've taken ~5 posts

It's already over that after being told to conclude it.

>>53938730
There is at least a one, or some character trying to do that. Would have to dig up my 5th edition Necron codex, can't remember the names right now.

Anyone have any recommendations for essential reading on the Dark Angels? Have already read Azrael and looking for more.

>>53938767
Alpha Legion. The only legion with balls

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>>53938772
>then whatever

>>53938772
>No, Im sick of this shit. You want retarded memes and endless shitpost?

Welcome to 4chan

>You make me sick, here's your (You) maybe you can gain some dignity with it.

Babbys first 4chan experience

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>>53938795

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Fucking modelfags and playing fags and memefags and lorefags and shitpostfags and seriousfags and jokefags and waacfags and playsforfunfags and anonfags and tripfags STOO RUINING THE GENERAL AND GO BACK TO EBAUMS

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>>53938762
>the squares
10/10
>>53938767
imperial fisters
I do like salamanders as well but the whole "coal black skin and shining red eyes" is a real turnoff

>>53938772

So poetic.... so dark yet so elegant with your words. Like a movie script delivered by the utmost of performers.*tips fedora*

Played a Salamander Venerable Dread with triple heavy flamer and hoo boy let me tell you that boy did work standing near vulkan

>>53938820
>muh memes

reddit's the other way you sack of shit.

>>53938772
You sound hella upset there kid. Might wanna take a chill pill and then fuck off back to plebbit.

>>53938795
Pick up the Legacy of Caliban, it has 3 DA novels in one

>>53938772
>fuck off with your ass blasted nigger opinions

Good to know the kind of fans Battle Reports attract are quick to call everyone a nigger.

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>>53938825

>>53938783
Has the math already been run that shows plasma is the best general option??

>>53938843
>A FUCKING TRIPFAG

UPBOAT

>>53938848
Just how new are you? You think 4chan is for serious? Lol?

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>>53938680
The truth.

So I'm curious about the new board they posted in the community page of DA vs Deathguard. I think they said they've hidden easter eggs in it and will be adding more? Has anything been found yet?
>>53938740
3CP seems like a bit much for the -basically a knight detachment- detachment of lord of wars. It's kinda weird that the specialist LOW detachment gets more bonus CP than any of the others.

I'd like to see some of the blast weapons scale more properly with unit size. I really like how the leviathan dreadnought's grav flux bombard adds d3 shots for every 5 models in a squad. I think it's currently just 1D6 for a basilisk right now? And it still has to roll to hit after that? A bit weak IMO.

The vanquisher cannon is just sad. Would really like to see it do 2D6 damage or have any justifiable purpose to encourage using it over a battle cannon.

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>>53938627
t6 is all there is to defend it, t6 vs t7 is also likely the least relevant breakpoint in the game. I can't make a wide ranging comparison in a pissing contest, since you can't assign point values to different attributes but I can eyeball it and say that's a ridiculously effective unit for 170. You're already on the footing of trying to make it seem like trash so its a pointless discussion.

>>53938871
haha! Upvoted my friend, get some gold for those sick memes you get in the 4chinz!

MEMES
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>>53936964
morale shouldn't just reflect fear or terror, but sudden tactical withdrawal

marines, even primaris marines, should be acutely aware of how precious they are individually, and how great a loss each of them is

>>53938842
Fucking relic rule is so stupid, ok yeah I'll just be a dickhead and field an extra LoW just to have my Spartan

>>53938787
Cool. I just wanted to know it was a rational motive for a dynasty to pursue. Time to fluff up a custom one!

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>>53938767
Thousand Sons. Nobrainer really, with how much I love reading books. First thing I do with each new rulebook every edition is read it from cover to cover that same weekend.

>>53938865
They're available to many units, and are capable of dealing a pretty significant amount of damage while using Overcharge mode at short range. Their only weakness is mitigated by many units (Captains, Chaos Lords, Guard Orders, etc).

Those who are arguing are the gayest gay gaylords of all gays ever. You were also adopted.

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>>53938795

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>>53938210
>>53938289
>>53938338
>>53938381
>>53938396

>not reading the whole paragraph
>not even trying to read

/tg/ you can do better

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I don't think the Repulsor is as bad as I first though. A little busy with the details, but it's definitely not as bad as the pieces of shit Space Marines have gotten before.

Why'd they have to practically double the price of the orks? I felt like getting into Warhammer but I didn't have too much to spend so I went with orks. Got a gretchin set for $16. Check back and it's $28 now. I was actually saving up for the starter set which was $85 but fuck that cus it's $140 now, I barely have enough to get the trukk and all corresponding paints now.

>>53938927
>t.sporkmaster cheese penguin of DOOM

Big dummy here
Is there any penalty for charging through cover in 8th?

>>53938897
>morale shouldn't just reflect fear or terror,

It doesn't, and in past editions it was stated as much.

Also: Don't forget that in addition to tactical withdrawal, there is also things like giving up the fight to carry wounded comrades to the rear to get them aid. Basically any reason to stop fighting and abandon the fight.

>>53938943
Spell it out for me, I want to make sure you're saying what I think you're saying so I can laugh at how retarded it is.

>>53938953
>what is inflation
>what is currency valuation
>what is stop being a poorfag you orknigger

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>>53938767
The workhorse legion.
I love the idea of getting shit done, effeciency first and foremost. I also like the idea of bending chaos to your own will, using them only for their powers and being a powerful fuck.

I was also the middle child...

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>>53938968
Man you really are gay

>>53938953
Are you sure you have the right currency listed on the website?

>>53938927
no u

>>53938953

Your website country is set to AU or NZ.

>>53938953
I want to kill you so you can never breed, you are that fucking stupid
>>53938953
Idiot, he's probably looking at the wrong region on the website and is too inept to figure it out

>>53938951
If you think away the gazillion random bits that seem just randomly glued all over it it looks okay I guess.
Would also increase the height of its stand, it looks like it can't handle the smallest bump in the road.

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>>53938762
>Intel_Kaby_Lake.jpg

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>>53937157
>You can play any 7E army in 8E because of the new detachment system allowing bonus auxillery detachments at the cost of CP!
>Whoa, anon, what are you doing running auxillery detachments? You only get 3 detachments max!
>You want to run a fortification and/or a LoW? I hope you weren't planning on running anything else!

>>53938969
You subtract 2 from the charge roll.

A noob here, is there any reason to take a SM tactical marine over a scout?

It seems everything scouts get make the 1+ save not nearly as good

>>53938767
Blood Angels
Muh breaking

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>>53939006
>I want to kill you so you can never breed, you are that fucking stupid

Good job quoting the same post twice and responding to two different ones.

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>>53939011

>>53939023
Nice

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>>53939031
Anything is legal in Open Play (don't take that out of context) and pretty much everything is in Narrative Play. That's 2/3rd of the game where you can field your 7th edition WAAClist of random units slapped together !

>>53939037

Tacticals get better weapons

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>>53937200
Anon, are you blind? There's clearly 5 repentia right above the mistress, who is a solo character now. Also, it's NINE (9) special weapons in that dom squad.

Get your eyes checked.

>>53939070
They specifically said in an interview with the art designer for the new models that it's supposed to plough across the ground as if it has treads, but it's just skid plates because it doesn't need wheels. This ain't no landspeeder son.

>>53938969
>>53939032
Where in the rulebook is this?

>>53939088
Which weapons are "good" in this edition?

I used to run sniper scouts and grav tacticals

>>53939087
While I agree with most of your post
>That's 2/3rd of the game
is disingenuous. 90% of matches are going to be matched play.

>>53939077
GIMMIE WAZDAKKA AND BUZZGOB PLS

>>53938136
fucking awful, just... wow.

1) always max out units of warriors
2) You have no way to get those lychguard into combat safely
3) You're taking spiders:
---a) without scarabs
---b) no gloom prisms
4)Bringing the Nightbringer instead of the deceiver
5) Your immortals don't have tesla carbines
6) wasting points on a barge
7)where the fuck is your ghost ark?
8) taking one heavy gauss from 9PL destroyer when you can have a Stalker that has 2 of them and buffs whole army shooting for 8PL while still being more durable.

>12/100 See me after class

>>53939106
Shitsters of Basshole suck anyway who cares

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Thunderhawk Transporter

>>53939118
Meltagun, plasmagun, grav-cannon, lascannon, combi-flamer, combi-melta, combi-plas

>>53939116
248 - 251 has the expanded terrain rules

>>53939110
>it's supposed to plough across the ground as if it has treads, but it's just skid plates because it doesn't need wheels.

Then what the fuck is the point?

Can someone explain the point of Seraphim?

>deepstrike them 9 inches away
>all their good weapons have a 6 inch range
>can't move after deep striking
>have to succeed with a 9 inch charge roll, which will take a fucking miracle
>take overwatch, miss charge, die in enemy's shooting phase

Someone explain this.

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>>53939087
>your 7th edition WAAClist of random units slapped together
First of all, this has no bearing to the discrepancy of their claim versus their actual rules.

Second of all, the only list I ran in 7E was a Rogue Trader (inquisitor) army with some deldar mercenaries, which will never be matched play legal again.

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Damocles Command Rhino

>>53939154

Treads are the weak points of tanks.

>>53939154
It does not need wheels/tracks to move. Wheels and tracks can be damaged. Instead it's all armor.

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Whirlwind Hyperios

>>53938979

It specifically says you can only take one understrength unit.

>>53937904
Firesight marksman won't work. Unfortunately he only works on sniper drones. However pulse accelerator drones would be great. Is there any way to get them outside of pathfinders? I'd prefer just drones. Maybe a mobile T'au arcade set off-map for fun.

>>53939167
Shouldn't the eldar be a foot taller than the human? This looks more like a shadowrun picture than a 40k picture.

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Relic Whirlwind Scorpius

>>53939110
>doesn't need wheels
>ploughs across the ground
>with skid plates
>is a grav tank
>designed to push dirt
>with a tank turret on top

Do you think they could've just gone with a killdozer?

>>53939125
It was a bit of a tongue in cheek remark. Companies make disingenuous statements all the time, and GW is no exception.
With things like keywords and limits on Strategems on the way it was quickly rather obvious that the more abusive 7th edition army compositions would no longer be effective, or really playable.

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>>53939165
THEY SUCK

>>53938771
>clearing side jams

It's not aligned with the barrel at all, and sits significantly above it; spent casing is ejected from the side of the weapon, there's even what looks like a bolt mechanism there, presumably for when you want to manually load a round by turning your weapon around 180.

Bolter rounds use casings; the initial velocity of the round is guaranteed at a kill-speed from the barrel, which overcomes the inherent weakness of rocket rounds that need time to accelerate and have characteristically weaker stopping power at short range (the only real world examples are said to be so pisspoor that you can stop the rounds leaving the barrel by simply putting your finger over it). This would also overcome two other problems; one, the problem of accuracy (rocket rounds tend to drift even from a rifled barrel, because they don't pick up speed until they're 20 feet ahead of you), and two, the problem of noise. While no weapon is silent in operation, bolter rounds would only need a small initial charge to ensure lethality at the end of the barrel and, let's say, 20 feet ahead of it. After that, the rocket's own propellant is sufficient to drive it forward, and to continue driving it forward even as it makes contact with enemy armor; since bolt rounds are mass-reactive, this constant application of force even as resistance is met means a higher chance of penetration and detonation of the core.

If anything, the boltgun concept is probably over-engineered as it stands: but it's supposed to be accurate and usable against a variety of targets in any conditions, including underwater and in vacuum (in both conditions bolter rounds might have significant advantages over conventional munitions - underwater especially, given sufficient propellant). Existing mass-reactive rounds tend to be so good at penetrating flesh that they explode beyond a standard body-depth; but assuming even techno-barbarians can make body armor, that may not be a huge problem.

>>53939104
Do you have the Xenos book, too?

>>53939204
Unless you think his legs are x2 the length of his torso, he's likely standing on a higher step than her.

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Rapier Carrier

>>53939141

>Flier is so massive it is harder to hit
what

Do Warp Talons get 2 attacks from their claws or just 1?

Their rules say extra attack for each claw, and they have 2

So, Imperial Knights can be taken on their own, but they can't really deal with massed infantry in 8e, so... mix with some Skitarii?

How are the Custodes looking in 8e?

>>53939165
Why deep strike when you can use an Act of Faith to move them 12'' before your turn begins, then move them 12'' again in your movement phase ?

>>53939204
It's probably just a cosplayer

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Castellum Stronghold Part 1


>>53939227
no

>>53938878
>So I'm curious about the new board they posted in the community page of DA vs Deathguard.
Elaborate? Did I miss something on the community site?

>>53939234
represents higher flight altitude

>>53939216
Ploughs across the ground figuratively, like a tank does. It's not digging a huge channel behind it or anything, it drives across the surface of the ground or very close to it, the skid plates are for when it hits little shit like rocks and I assume more armor for mines or whatever. If there are any vods of the official warhammer twitch page from the last few weeks you can watch an interview with the guy who designed it talking about how it works.

>>53939233
>>53939255

Bro these are already in the Mega download. like the PDF versions.

>>53939234
It's because the flier is flying high in the atmosphere, beyond the ability of most things to hit them. Like our modern gunships.

>>53939252
Why would I do that when I can just get dominions instead, stick them in a repressor, and get far more points moving up the line faster thanks to vanguard, while preserving my acts of faith for shooting attacks?

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>>53939255
Castellum Stronghold Part 2


>>53939234
compared to the smaller fliers those ones fly higher than your regular ones. that rule creates the distance