/40kg/ Warhammer 40k General

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Sisters of Battle require trigger warning in /tg/

>>53891069
Wew, and here i was thinking we could have a thread without shit slinging. Thanks for starting things off right.

>>53891069
>SoB cucks STILL think they're getting new models after 20 years
would be sad if it weren't so pathetic

Any idea what bonuses if any the different ork clans will be getting?

Can't decide if I want deffskulls or Goff's

>>53891180
And someone got trigger.

Maybe 40k is not for you. Have you try other games where you can have your safe space?

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>>53890808

>this

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Nth for Cadia is dead and Guard need updated models.

And so do Sisters.

>>53891180
But we did. We got 4 models.

>>53891180
Financially, why would GW refuse to give plastic models for a fairly popular faction?

So with 8th edition out, I'm finally ready to get into 40k after lurking and reading about it forever. Fluff wise I really like the Thousand Sons but I heard they're garbage which sucks. The Plague Marines are close behind them and they just got that sweet new stuff. What do you guys think about either of these armies in general and for someone knew to 40k?

>>53891069
Dat bitch wearing a staff tag?
That store gotta be selling like damn.

Are there any good sisters of battle battle reports for 8th edition?

>>53891228
Everyone needs updated models.

Except marines in all their shapes and form. Well ok just loyalist need to calm their tits with the updates.

I'm getting models updates before I finish painting the models I bought last month

>>53891247
Because the guy you are responding to is an autistic and dedicated shitposter

Can someone post a Auxilia datasheat please. I want to see it.

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>>53891228
Part of me wants plastic kits for the other Regiments, but I worry they would mess it up. Like, for example, Vostroyans would probably be ruined if they went with the new cartoony style, and so would Steel Legion.

It's more likely they will just discontinue all the cool regiments anyway

>>53891180
I really don't understand this attitude.

It's fine having favorites. I certainly have mine. But more variety in the game is good, and there's nothing wrong with the SoB besides their lack of decent support from GW

>>53891271
The wonders of china (Hong Kong store if I recall correctly)

So, inspired by the discussion last thread about whether or not you can make Militarum Auxilia your <Regiment>, could you make a Space Marine chapter your <Regiment> and say that your Guardsmen are Chapter Serfs fighting alongside their Space Marine masters?

If you did, would your Guardsman characters give buffs to your Space Marines?

>>53891247
>fairly popular faction

>>53891326
They've explicitly stated that you cannot. The keyword should have been written <Chapter:_____> and <Regiment:_____> to stop the WAAC and other folk from not understanding RAI.

>>53891326
No. This was FAQed, but the easiest way to look at it is that tags keep their type. So when a space marine buffing unit references <CHAPTER> and you select <BUMFUCK>, then the tag is actually <CHAPTER BUMFUCK>.

Your guards of the <BUMFUCK> regiment are actually <REGIMENT BUMFUCK>. So the tags don't match.

>>53891297
>Vostroyan Firstborn
>"Tremulous Banneryodeler"
i was not worried and now i am because of you.

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BITTER WITHIN BITTER WITHOUT

>>53891326
Well I use Swarmlord and genestealers in my <sept>. I have a mind control helm akin to what vespid leaders are used embedded on the head of swarmlord.
Inb4 someone takes me seriously.

Anyone ever made like a hover-dreadnought or a Land Speeder piloted by a Sarcophagus or something?

I was thinking that could be a neat conversion to make since I was looking at running an almost entirely Dreadnought army for kicks and that would let me have some "Dreadnoughts" as fast attack too.

>>53891326
You can have guard and space marines in the same army fighting side by side becuse they both have <imperium> and will share any buffs and rules that apply to the <imperium> keyword.

But they will not share anything else even if you name your <chapter> and <regiment> the same thing.

>>53891368
Oh sweet summer child. You have no idea.
The bloody bitches are constantly selling out as soon something show ups, even for their old models. Third parties are making money with bootleg versions.

There is a market, big enough for third parties to try and get a cut.

Why GW never does something with them is a question people in GW ask themselves too

>>53891389
That actually sounds legitimately entertaining for a narrative game. If your opponent can kill the MC'd swarmlord, the rest of the Swarm goes berserk (Controlled by the other player? By a third player?)

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>>53891407
oi stealing my idea!
>>53890808 →

>>53891194
>deathskulls
+1 to loot
>bad moonz
+1 to snoot
>goffs
+1 to boot
>snakebitez
+1 to root
>blood axes
+1 to cahoot
>evil sunz
+1 to scoot

>>53891437
10/10

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>>53891407
As a matter of fact

>>53891435
Oh, I was actually making Salamanders because I wanted Bray'arth Ashmantle, and my friend already sold me two Ironclads, a Chaplain dread and a Venerable, so that's already most of an army once I get Bray'arth and some troops.

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>>53891194
No idea yet till their indivisual indexes come out. I'd think it would be cool if it went something maybe like this:
Goffs: +1 to Attacks on units with Ere' We Go. Various command benefits as well.
Deffskulls: Can bring looted vehicles.
Bad Moonz: All have a +1 to their armour saves.
Snakebites: Universal 6+ FnP for units with Ere We Go. More squig and grot units available to them.
Scarlet Sunz: All vehicles move 2 inches more and all fast vehicles/bikes/planes gain a jinx-like ability.
Freebootas: +1 to their leadership and BS.

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>>53891270
If you really like Thousand sons then go for it my dude, The meta changes all the time and one army will not always suck/be god tier, just pick your favorite man.

>>53891069
That's a man.

>>53891435
You don't own this idea.
You are makeing yours.
He wants to convert some counts as landspeeders.
And I bought 6 dreadnoughts on launch day of 8th to build my nought only list.

We all had the idea and we should all make them.

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>>53891385
I'm sorry anon, take some good Guard art to compensate.

>>53891488
Forgot blood axes like da grot i iz.
Blood Axes: All units with Ere' We Go can deploy infiltrated or in reserves to come in from a random board edge.

My fiancée that I've been with for 3 years just broke up with me and kicked me out. I just got the Dark Imperium box set and have all of my stuff but it still feels hollow

Help me feel better elegan/tg/entlemen?

>>53891247
People will pay more.

>>53891380
This does bother me as a Chaos player for a few reasons though.

You can take a Daemon Prince in a CSM or a CD army. The Prince in CSM has <Chaos Mark> while the Prince in CD has <Chaos God>. What this means is that a CSM Prince of Khorne is a Daemon with the Mark of Khorne, but is not a Khorne Daemon.

That seems a little wonky if you ask me. (Granted this issue was in 6 and 7e).

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Getting back to my dark eldar with the 8th. Haven't had a chance to properly consider all the rules changes with work schedule and stuff, so what's changed in a nutshell? Are wyches worth taking now?

The split fire rules make it seem that dark lances might occasionally be handy in kabalite squads. And raiders cost a fortune now.

>>53891491

EVEN BETTER!

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>>53891478
sounds cool i'm stuck on my own color scheme for my dread army as well as a back story

>>53891498
yeah i'm just messing with him wanna pool our efforts and make a cool dread chapter?

>>53891385
On that note if anyone has the dark imperium box > Death guard codexlet > Malignant Plaguecaster entry

- That bit where they name all of the other flavours of [Adj. Verb-Noun] nurgle caster?
It's basically an Eighth of Shitmar meme in and of itself.
Anyone mind dropping a pic?

>>53891180

I want them for conversions/variety's sake but I honestly like the metals a lot. A few of them look pretty bad but they're far from hideous.

>>53891548
>Offer to split it in a weirdly sexualised craigslist ad

>>53891428
Something like:
>the player using MC-helm must bring hive tyrant and exactly 3 units of tyranid INFANTRY units. When the tyrant takes damage you lose control of the INFANTRY units according to the table above at the start of your turn. The player controlling the hive tyrant chooses which unit he loses control over. The opposing players controls those units for the rest of the game. If they tyrant is slain you immediately lose control of all the tyranid INFANTRY units.
You control 3/2/1 units with the normal damage breakpoints for hive tyrant. T'au player has to use nids aggressively to zerg them as fast as possible for them to not bite him back later if the tyrant starts to losing it.

What would the Empire do if a group of Orcs, Tau, or Eldar expressed the desire to convert to the Imperial Faith, and surrendered all their weapons as a gesture of good faith?

Pre and Post Rowboat's resurrection.

>>53891548
Start exercising, it will make you feel better

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>>53891297
>that tau helmet

>>53891576
Not really as I am going 100% Dreadnoughts my only option is Blood Angels becuse that's the only Dreadnought HQ. So I am just Blood Angels and that's cool becuse it looks fun and I have never had a blood angel army before

I wish the closet transexual would have an autistic meltdown. That way mods would finally ban him.

I know one of you fucklechucks has the Forgeworld Xenos index. C'mon!

>>53891604
They would purge. Xenos cant be trusted.

>>53891618
Thats the standard pathfinder helm

Anyone got the inquisition land raider page?

>>53891548
Build a no-girls-allowed fort out of the boxes of your wargaming stuff. This will also help if you're actually homeless after being kicked out.

>>53891416
its because geedubz doesnt want fat neckbeards that play only female armies cluddering up their hobby again.

>>53891604
>What would the Empire do if a group of Orcs
>Surrendered all their weapons
Every Imperial military mind would explode from how impossible this would be.

I'm curious about the new PDFs going up on Mega. What software is being used to convert the epub3 files while remaining searchable?

Crypteks really need to be able to take a 20-40 point tomb blade bike.

>>53891631
It's not out yet idiot

So, anybody got there hands on the Death Korps book? any pdf's released for the forge world stuff?

>>53891631
S T O P
T H I S
M E M E

>>53891631
It hasn't been released yet, anon. FW doesn't send physical copies to stores ahead of time like GW does, so it's not likely that there will be premature leaks.

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>>53891569
>Granted this issue was in 6 and 7e
No, daemon princes never had marks of chaos, they were always "daemon of (god)." Marks only came into play when a guy became a DP and whatever mark he had determined his "daemon of (god)"

>>53891591
>t. retarded fa/tg/uy pretending to be a /pol/ack

>>53891641
But anon they made the Tau, something directed towards the fat weebs that hot glue anime dolls.

At least SoB player end being a bit more fit due to all the metal

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>>53891636
I rest my case.

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>>53891626
>that's the only Dreadnought HQ
Actually Forge World has a Chaplain Dreadnought and a Salamanders character that is a dreadnought, Bray'arth Ashmantle.

>>53891641
Either that or GW has a lot of creative sterility going on and they don't know what to do with "yet another Power Armor" army, one that is so thematically locked into only 3 weapons.

>>53891594
>Will trade half of Dark Imperium set. Nurgle for Slaanesh if you know what I'm sayin'

>>53891611
I already do for the Marines, but this is solid advice.

>>53891638
I don't have enough to make Dorn proud

Tell me about dreadnoughts!

Im a salamander player so ive got a few built

venerables seem pretty beefy with the feel no pain and 3 heavy flamers plus a fist seems like a good plan

Ironclads will murder anything big but getting them there is now more of an issue than ever

Dakka Dreads I was never a fan of but for the points maybe a basic layout could be okay

Dont have a contemptor but Ill say the 9inch movement and better assault cannon or melta is gonna be nasty

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>>53891018
So i plan on making pic related with a talos, give it a pair of soul burners, in the form of the twin dark lances
however, i need some legs; which legs would look good?

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>>53891571

Wez kangz of this edition.

Seriously. We are pretty dam good. I have won every game so far...although that might be because I was just so used to playing super tactical from 7th, and now I have a decent army to do it with.

Sort of like going from having to resuscitate someone with your bare hands to having a defibrillator.

We now have proper tools to do what we need to.

As for Wyches they are alright. Being able to pick combat drugs really helps!

As for raiders, my usual Troops unit in 7th cost 170pts. Now costs 200pts. So not that big a hike, and for those 30pts the raider trippled in surviability, got a (practical) speed boast.

So all in all. Pretty good.

Oh and grab yourself a Voidraven. Its so dam good now.

>Zog 'em!: This unit may fire at an enemy unit even if they are engaged in combat with an allied unit during the Shooting Phase. When rolling to hit a result of 5 hits a friendly model while a 6 hits an enemy model.

>>53891713
Expand the fire and angel theme.

>>53891490
Yeah it's less about power gaming and more about just not getting run over by people. Plus Ahriman is awesome but apparently Magnus and his spicy new model is a beast

>>53891713
It would be far easier to grab WH codex and go ballistic with the AoF mechanics.

Keep the army simple gear wise. Go wild with support and AoF mechanics.

Hell model wise they could make two kits maybe three tops for general guns and special guns, heavy weapons and one of running models (for Dominions and Seraphims like units)

>>53891018
am i going to ahve a bad time?


Black Legion 2k points 9 command points
Brigade Detachment

Chaos Lord (1) - 101pts
1 Chaos Lord: Plasma Pistol,Power fist

Sorcerer (1) - 102pts
1 Sorcerer: Force sword,Bolt pistol

Warpsmith (1) - 109pts
1 Warpsmith: Power axe,Mechatendrils,Meltagun,Flamer,Bolt pistol

Chaos Space Marines (10) - 172pts
1 Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol,Chainsword
1 Chaos Space Marine: Missile launcher,Bolt pistol
1 Chaos Space Marine: Meltagun,Bolt pistol
7 Chaos Space Marine: Boltgun,Bolt pistol

Chaos Space Marines (10) - 172pts
1 Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol,Chainsword
1 Chaos Space Marine: Missile launcher,Bolt pistol
1 Chaos Space Marine: Meltagun,Bolt pistol
7 Chaos Space Marine: Boltgun,Bolt pistol

Chaos Space Marines (10) - 168pts
1 Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol,Chainsword
1 Chaos Space Marine: Missile launcher,Bolt pistol
1 Chaos Space Marine: Plasma gun,Bolt pistol
7 Chaos Space Marine: Boltgun,Bolt pistol

Horrors (10) - 100pts
10 Pink Horror

Horrors (10) - 100pts
10 Pink Horror

Horrors (10) - 100pts
10 Pink Horror

Helbrute (1) - 130pts
1 Helbrute: Reaper autocannon,Helbrute fist

Helbrute (1) - 132pts
1 Helbrute: Reaper autocannon,Helbrute fist with combi bolter

Helbrute (1) - 130pts
1 Helbrute: Reaper autocannon,Helbrute fist

Chaos Spawn (1) - 33pts
1 Chaos Spawn: Hideous mutations

Chaos Spawn (1) - 33pts
1 Chaos Spawn: Hideous mutations

Chaos Spawn (1) - 33pts
1 Chaos Spawn: Hideous mutations

Havocs (5) - 165pts
1 Aspiring Champion: Boltgun,Chainsword
4 Chaos Space Marine: Lascannon,Bolt pistol

Havocs (5) - 105pts
1 Aspiring Champion: Boltgun,Chainsword
4 Chaos Space Marine: Heavy bolter,Bolt pistol

Havocs (5) - 115pts
1 Aspiring Champion: Boltgun,Bolt pistol
3 Chaos Space Marine: Heavy bolter,Bolt pistol
1 Chaos Space Marine: Autocannon,Bolt pistol

>>53891684
Anon, GW is nothing if not creative about shitting out the same army with minor variations.

>>53891747
You mean it's no longer a loss by default? Sweet, thanks brah!

>>53891571
They're pretty fucking good now. Venoms and Raiders are both really tanky, split fire rules were incredible, and dark lances/blasters are both crazy good weapons that you can get all over your army. Both Power From Pain and Ynnari are viable ways to build the list, though note that if you go Ynnari, you can't have ANY haemonculus covens units or mandrakes in your army.

Also mandrakes are really fucking good now. They might be the best unit in the index.

>>53891715
> Marine
Found the problem. At least you weren't married, cause then it would be "there goes my retirement".
Just get stationed abroad and slam some randoms jarhead.

>>53891297
yep, hoping they don't make steel legion/vostroyan plastics

theyd fuck em up royally

>>53891672
Bleh, I should have clarified more. Mondays.

The fact that "Daemon of X" and "Mark of X" were not identical for purposes of assorted restrictions led to general weirdness, like the fact you could join a Sorcerer of Slaanesh to a unit of Flesh Hounds from Khorne Daemonkin, since you couldn't join a unit with a different *Mark*.

What happens if we get a model that gets bonus Khorne Daemons or something like that this edition? Does the Chaos player get to go "nope, he's not a Khorne Daemon, he's just a Daemon with the Mark of Khorne."

Because I know that will happen. Spergs gonna sperg. (See: "can hive guard shoot" in 5e, since their models have no eyes)

>>53891753
Please no, introduce a rule like that an everyone will want it.
>guard should get it because it's the men's duty to die for the imperium
>dark eldar should get it because they're bastards
>chaos should get it because they're also bastards
>tau should get it because those warriors die for the greater good
>tyranids should get it because they get the biomass back
>craftworld eldar should get it because it's fluffy for them to die in large numbers

>>53891638
Women aren't allowed in any of my hobbies.
There's like a 12 pt interest exam and they always fail.

>>53891488
>Scarlet Sunz: All vehicles move 2 inches more and all fast vehicles/bikes/planes gain a jinx-like ability.


EVIL SUNZ. GET IT RIGHT, GIT

>>53891707
Hmmmmm I own the Chaplain dreadnought I will be makeing him a Death Company Dreadnought.

So if I went this way it would be a new list I would lose the Blood angel Dreadnoughts and as I bought those that would be a problem as I don't have the extra arms to make them generic.

But more importantly I have kinda fallen in love with my Blood Angel Dreadnoughts and I am happy with the list. So I wish you the best of luck with your Dreadnoughts! As one anon told me.

Don't let your dreams be dreams.

>>53891778
True, marine are basically different colour scheme with random bits thrown into them. Some how that makes an entire different army.

Could you imagen if Eldar had codex yellow, codex red and codex black for wraith heavy, bike heavy and psyker heavy Eldar armies?

>>53891849
What power level is that exam?

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>>53891747

Voidraven or Jetfighter?

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So need other opinions since another guy was disliking him for his cost last thread and I plan on putting a servoharness on the Masters of The Chapter guy with a Thunder hammer.

Really just have to figure out is he worth the extra points considering his Plasma cutter is masterworked and doesn't kill him and the reroll aura on top of the face that he is actually prety good at killing stuff with the 2+ to hit and 2+ to wound against pretty much everything that isnt a vehicle.

>>53891271
You're underestimating how many socially phobic neets will be scared off by a qt grill running the store, especially with GW's hard-sell philosophy for anyone who looks old enough to own a credit card increasing the odds she'll try to talk to them about Primaris™ Space Marine™ Interdictors™ and cause them to spaghetti.

like me

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>>53891720
These cost 120 points each but they're pretty good for Ironclads.

>>53891194
>>53891488
Didn't they say that there will be subfaction-specific stratagems? Won't those be the mechanic effect of more exclusive army compositions, as opposed to passive bonuses?

>>53891849
Expan in this 12 point exam.

This is either super autistic or common sense put in a really strange way

>>53891548
>>53891826

This anon is right. Be glad she didnt take half your life. Military wives, not even once.

>>53891861
But they do have 3 different Army's.

>>53891868
Jetraven.

>>53891883
do they even still sell the model?

>>53891868

Voidraven all day every day.

Voidmine will tactical nuke a single unit, and you can get decent missles for it too.

Praise the Omnissiah, a PDF version!

>>53891847
You can say that about any fucking rule though

>>53891891
Well DE and Eldar look different enough from mechanics and aesthetics. So they can be different armies.
Clowns just look like fancy Eldar.

Beside shoulder pads and some random extra bits marine army all look the same.
Grey Knight look different due to their storm bolter and spear things and SW with their puppies, remove those from SW and they are not different from any other marine

>>53891877
Thankfully, That! ain't a GW store.
Generic Games. She's probably a boardgamer.
Not even any hobby tables.
You're set.

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What terrain is everyone playing on?

This was built by a mate of mine 5 years ago, I'm going to be renovating it and painting it up.

>>53891871
Why would you ever make attacks with the Servo Arms when you could hit them with the hammer instead?

>>53891877
Well if you can't deal with basic human interaction I have no idea how you play 40k

Question: Under what circumstances should a Space Wolves Swiftclaw take a Bolt Pistol instead of the Chainsword? All Swiftclaws come standard with a Twin Boltgun, which clearly does more damage than the Bolt Pistol, but cannot be fired alongside the Bolt Pistol. This means the only time you'd use the Bolt Pistol would be in melee, where the Chainsword will do you more good. Is there a time where the Bolt Pistol is actually useful on this unit?

>>53891488
>Bad moonz: all have a +1 to their armour saves
2+ Save 5+ invul Gorkanaut here I come
Nah but for real that'd be nice.

Freebootaz Gorka with 4+ BS, 3+ BS Flash Gitz sounds great too and would be fluffy with my mekbootaz army.

So I am a little confused about the pistol rules. Does it boil down to you can shoot the unit you're in melee with in the shooting phase and you can't fire both Pistol+Other Weapon in the same shooting phase?

daily reminder that power levels are strictly for children and retards

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I just realized they promoted Shrike to Chapter Master but didn't give him Artificer armor. What kind of chumpass chapter master accepts bog standard power armor

What's your favourite change in 8th?

Mine is the rerolls before modifiers change along with a lot of -1 to hit against me.

Can't wait til my friend tries to shoot my venom with a deimos vindi and mortal wounds himself on a 1 and 2

>>53891885
Like 1. Do you like it
2. What's your favourite faction?
3. What's your favourite unit?
4. Let's talk Lore.

Quite similar to my /vg/ 12 point exam.
Has saved me from many a CoDchick hunting for gullible dick.

>>53892016
Yes

>>53891975
flat 3 damage against vehicles or characters who are gonna use their invulnerable save anyways

>>53891972
I haven't played in a decade, but if I was getting back into the hobby, I'd be giving serious thought to buying a 3D printer and printing my terrain. There's a whole heap of really cool terrain bits on Thingiverse that you can just print out and use.

>>53891993
I think you can use both the pistol and chainsword at the same time because you fire the pistol in the shooting phase and use the chainsword in the fight phase

>>53891936
Most rules are not singularly designed to buff a tier 1 army though. This rule change would be broken and stupid.

>>53891908
Just Chinaman them.

Is it just me or does it seem like Kroot hounds could be really fucking good

>>53891972
IMHO, Bisect it and bridge it up.
Nobody wants to stoop in order to do bottom-floor crap, and having twin towers will make shooty armies more relevant

>>53892025
daily reminder that power levels are fine and hating on them makes you an autistic manchild

>>53892039
"Any model may replace its bolt pistol with a chainsword"
The two are mutually exclusive, and the unit does not have an option to take a melee weapon in a way that does not replace the bolt pistol.

>>53891993
Another Swiftclaw question: Attack Bikes say "Each model is crewed by two swiftclaws armed with Bolt Pistols..." So are there two Bolt Pistols per model, then? Do the two Swiftclaws on the bike fire independently of each other?

>>53892027
One that is too busy sneaking and carving up fools to stop by and resupply.

>>53891849
Wow you suck.

>>53892027
Well, it's not like artificer armour did Whathisface any good. You know. Thingywhatsit. Shrike's predecessor.

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>>53892066
For easy reference

>>53892054
Don't you mean make flyer armies more relevant?

>>53891847

Tbh guard used to have that rule

Any IG news on the FW side?
If Chimeras can take Auto cannons again they might be worth it.

>>53891380
So that means there's no way to give orders to Ogryn and Bullgryn I assume?

>>53892082
Yeah, hard to inherit that armor when it's a molten slag now.

>>53892065
are you a child or a retard?

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>>53891388
POTATO WITHIN POTATO WITHOUT

>>53891739

>5 attacks
>10 inch move
>I will give this model two guns!

>>53891228
GW hears your request and understands that what you really mean is "please redo the entire Space Marine line, but bigger"

32mm based Guard will come out, but in the mean time, start a Primaris Space Marine army, they're the newest, mightiest weapon in the armies of the Imperium.

>>53891972
I guess my problem is it's too small. Each floor should be more open and half as many floors.

>>53892054
This guy is right. Cut it in half so it's only half as tall. Put bridges between the two towers.

>>53892027

That's Shadow Chapter Master Shrike to you buddy.

>>53892118

In classic GW half-assed style, he FAQ is unclear if it also excludes Auxillia regiments.

>>53892126
Calm your autism, manchild

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What's better-

>2 twin-lascannon Contemptor-Mortis Dreadnoughts (412 points)
OR
>3 centurions with lascannons and launchers? (420 points)

>>53891868

First time using the Raven, I obliterated a unit of scouts and scythed a dreadnaught to death

>>53891548
If you feel like shit, you were either a clueless shit that didn't realise the relationship was failing or you did something to deserved it and now feel guilty about it.
Other likely option is that she was just a total bitch and you are now better off.
Learn from the experience and move on.

>>53892144
You mean the most overpriced and worthless army in the game?

Think they are the worst marine army if not the worst in game. Bloody Repentias look good and cheap by comparison

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so whats a good loadout for my wraithguard/blades?
should i focus on wraithguard dscythe with the new edition?

>>53891850
sorry boss, itz early.

>>53892156
Post some Auxillia sheets please.

>>53892159
So, retarded then. That makes sense.

>>53891672
>No, daemon princes never had marks of chaos

Pretty sure they did in 3e.
Princes were just Chaos characters with I think more than 50 or 100 points worth of daemonic gifts.

>>53892065
Anon, you know /tg/ is full of nothing but autistic manchildren. Here's your (you) and get off this board. You don't belong here.

>>53891756
Had a few thoughts on this, but the big one was redoing Sisters so they have "at least 3" choices per FOC. At the time, I was thinking of them akin to "Imperial Eldar" (lots of disjointed specialists becoming more than the sum of their parts).

Troopwise: Sister Bastions are your "mainline" troop, basically riot shield&bolt pistol sisters that are cheap and durable, able to tank hits for nearby units but not so tough themselves. Repentia become troops (and can take Exterminators), as do Dominions (shifted from "vanguard" to having "fire-then-move" mechanics.

Elites: Celestians are *the* mainline all-around unit, with Bolt Pistol/Chainsword/Bolter, and superior ability to target enemies due to Sabbat Pattern Helms. This is also where you expand on Ordos that are "mentioned" in the fluff but didn't make the crunch. At the time, I contemplated Ordo Madrigal as a "buff aura/faith hymns" unit, and Ordo Prononatus ("those that prepare the way") as Sister Terrorists: Stalker Boltguns, Demo Charges, anything "terrorist" in nature.

FA: Add a "combat-only" variant of the Immolator, move Penitent Engines.

HS: Let the Exorcist be indirect-fire. This is the most controversial one, but everyone else is getting a "big model" so why not the Sisters? The idea was "the Golgothan" (named as such as the pilot is willingly crucified into the control system), something that looks like the unholy love-child of a Dreadknight and Karamazov's lawnchair. Give it two fists and assorted weapons, and the option to trade out for an Inferno Cannon, Avenger Mega Bolter, or a Melta Cannon.

Finally, add a few other solos including an Ordo Planixium relic-bearer, a Sister Unrepentant (imagine a Repentia that just won't die, drug her up on Frenzon ans have her dual-wield Eviscerators) and you have something where you have multiple units, with less individual overlapping roles ("yo, I heard you like spamming Immolators") yet you keep to the Sister theme of zealotry, fire and faith.

>>53892027
He's just that much of a badass

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>>53892025

>>53891868
>>53892165

However, Razorwings have extra dakka from the splinter cannon plus having the 6 shots from the necrotoxin missiles that also wound on 2+ is nice.

>>53892164

What's better, 6 Lascannons and three missile launchers with T5 and 9 wounds or 8 Lascannons with T7 and 16 wounds, you mean.

(Hint, the dreads.)

>>53892025
daily reminder that power levels are part of the rules.

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If the Astronomicon can't be seen beyond the Great Rift, how has the Imperium Nihilus not collapsed yet? How did Guilliman get to the Blood Angels? How are the Blood Angels not stranded? What detail am I missing here?

>>53892235
That's what I'm thinking, cool. Thanks bromigo

Guys i'm confused with eldar warwalkers , do they have no options? the normal page only says shuriken cannons.

Also opinion on them? might buy one.

I played 7th edition eldar late( i'm a salamander and imperial guard player) but I know battle focus got nerfed, I still just bought a ton of windriders but why in the FUCK did they make them fast attack i'm fucking mad. Also no more 3+, wow.
what troops should I fucking use now, everything else sucks or sucked in 7th ed.
just need some opinions on what is now good or bad in 8th ed.
Also I hate platoons in guard but I know they needed them. I'm just too fucking lazy and my friends get bored while i'm setting them up. vets being elites is fucking retarded.

>>53891303
>nothing wrong with the SoB

Besides that they are nothing but a lame attempt to draw sex-starved neckbeards to the game through catering to their fetishes. The SoB belong in anime not 40k.

>>53891826
'Rah, unfortunately I'm home for three more months. Gotta do something before I'm back in the shit

>>53891888
Thank god we didn't get a joint bank account. Still she took the pets and the apartment

All I have left is my plastic crack addiction

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Update for those who don't visit./wip/

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What would it take for a new Tau codex to add cheesy bullshit on the scale of Fish of Fury?

What's it like being attacked by a bloat drone's plague probe?

>>53891018
The mods deleted the thread before the last one?

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>>53892270

>>53892260
I'm thinking of getting Grayfax to replace my psyker in my IG list so I have a qt to fan over. That's better than playing SoBs right?

>>53892260
I thought shitposting was against the rules

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Anyone know where to find more Korps leaks?

>>53892281
Tau are already pretty cheesy in 8th

>>53892298
nice looking Korps.

>>53891271
It's a dude.

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>>53892104
I think deathwatch+some FW legions vehicle. Loyalysts have dreadclaw?

>>53892294
They are deleting threads instead of banning the closet transexual that has been shitposting for almost two weeks now

>>53892244
>how has the Imperium Nihilus not collapsed yet?

It pretty much has. Nihilius pretty much means nothing.

>How did Guilliman get to the Blood Angels?

There are crossing points in the Great Rift.

>>53892227
Enjoy never getting a game with anyone but children and retards.

>>53892243
An objectively shit part of the rules designed to allow children and mentally disabled people to play. If you are a non-retarded adult, there is absolutely no excuse for ever using them.

>>53892309
don't post SoB then

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>>53892313
This please

>>53892335
I wonder why he hates SoB so much. He sure is wasting his time complaining about an army he hates. He could be talking about an army he loves instead.

>>53892347
>theyre bad because i dont like it
>everyone that doesnt spend 30 minutes writing a list is a retard
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO STOP ENJOYING THINGS

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>>53891388

30k
>after centuries searching the galaxy we have found dad
>thingsgonnagetbetter.png
>wait wtf is this shitlord saying about decimation
>well half our legion are fucking retarded anyway so who the fuck cares

10 years before the heresy

>shit this siege thing sucks
>why did i not join the fucking imperial fists when i had the chance
>i really hope i was beaten to death

>>53892321
Ty anon

>>53892335
No matter which board you go to mods wage a jihad against you. Really makes me think.

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>>53892352
Post SoB?!
Can do!

>>53891389
It's been faq'd. Which is good for the game overall, but bad for any gsc player who actually wants to do anything original with their fluff.

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Has there been any official descriptions on exactly what is improved in the Primaris?

Is it literally just that they're bigger with more stable geneseed?

>>53892370
It's his attempt to become a legend in /tg/ like all the other shitposters before him.

>>53892313
That's not really a leak, it's from the IG forgeworld preview https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/06/19/forge-world-index-astra-militarum-preview/

>>53891234
<just got new SoB models in 7th
Those were greyfax, cawl, guilliman, cypher and Voldus, right?

>>53892375
The various reasons that they are objectively worse have been explained over and over again. If you don't understand why by now, then you are a retarded person, and if you're not, you should feel ashamed of yourself for being lazy enough even considering it.

>>53892408
>ally just that they're bigger with more stable geneseed?

Biggus Dickus

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>>53892370
My theory is that he constantly gets table by his local SoB player. That is why he is so assblasted.

>>53892390
what did you use for the coats anon, im liken the color.

>>53892298
>dat Jagdpanzer

Nice.

>>53892347
Except for they fact they are in the rules. That's like saying overwatch is dumb and refusing to play with people who use that rule. Or saying flyers are dumb and refusing to play people with flyers.

You can hate it if you want but you don't have a choice in the end.

By the way my army is 1998 points and 97 power so I am ready for both.

>>53892420
STOP

ENJOYING

THINGS

REEEEEEEE

>>53892408
Nothing concrete outside that they have three more implants compared to normal marines. Besides that it's just the vague "harder better bigger stronger"

>>53891247
Because SoB aren't the kind of army where people go "I want to start collecting SoB, but since their not plastic, I'm not going to buy any army now".
People either but them in expensive metal, or get a different army instead.

>>53892452
Of course I will not be playing with people who use power level, because I don't play with children or retarded people, therefore I will never encounter anyone who wants to use power level.

>>53892456
You can try to dismiss the truth with memes, but that doesn't make it not the truth.

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Help me battle brothers, I cannot into good list making. Trying to get my way to 2k points, I have no idea what I'm doing

It's supposed to be a fluffy IH list that combines their love of heavily armored warfare with their love of shock-assault tactics

HQ
>captain in Cataphractii armor: relic blade (126)
TROOPS
>scout squad: camo cloaks, sniper rifles
>scout squad: camo cloaks, sniper rifles
ELITES
>6 sternguard
>6 sternguard
>assault Terminators: 3 TH/SS, 2 LC
>assault Terminators: 3 TH/SS, 2 LC
TRANSPORTS
>2 twin lascannons razorbacks, for the sternguard
HEAVY SUPPORTS
>Contemptor-Mortis: two twin lascannons
>predator w/ predator cannon, lascannons

Leaves me 216 points to tool around with. Maybe another Razorback+sternguard? Or downgrade the razorbacks to assault cannons and take a their assault squad?
Maybe a whirlwind scorpius?

>>53892412
Malcador Infernus
Is this Baneblade style or Land Raider style?

>>53892418
That finecast model that is based on the old cover, Saint Celestine and her Germinae Superia. You know that

godammit im still waiting to have my dark imperium set delivered, i have all the bits i need to make them all iron hands like but i still need my fucking minis, gw you piece of shit give me my minis or else ill sue you for discrimination against autists

>>53892484
It's Malcador style...

>>53892440
It's mechanicus standard grey with an Agrax wash, layered once with standard grey again, then edge highlight of administratum grey

>>53892452

My friends genuinely tried to house rule the rerolls before mods rule on the day they FAQ'D it

>>53892491
but, you also got those other models as new SoB HQ choices in 7th.

>>53892471
>Of course I will not be playing with people who use power level, because I don't play with children or retarded people, therefore I will never encounter anyone who wants to use power level.
I can smell the cheetos on your fingers

>You can try to dismiss the truth with memes, but that doesn't make it not the truth.
>subjective opinions are truth!!!
Seems like youre the retarded one here anon

>>53892471
Well if you don't plan on playing those people you sure waste a lot of time complaining about it. Just stop and walk away like you said you will.

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>>53892444
Without the netting, nice trips.

>>53892375
>everyone that doesnt spend 30 minutes writing a list is a retard
When have lists ever taken that long to make in any edition? The only time it took me over 10 minutes was back when I played Tyranids and had to design all my units from scratch.

>>53892054
This is just a shot of all three towers combined, normally its used as three towers with interconnected walkways, pipes and gantries, hella fun for necromunda and especially inquisitor, jumping off a gantry to the next level down then turning and blowing the bridge to bits.

Such fun!

I just realized if a character charges an enemy while an allied model is closer to the enemy they can't overwatch.

Then if the character makes the charge, the unit can charge and not get overwatched.

>>53892503
>Malcador
Oh thanks.
I don't mess with FW stuff at all so I didn't know.
I might look into it more if IG get good stuff this time.

>>53891847
Pretty much what happened with fnp

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>Death Guard base is called the 'Plague Planet'

Seriously?

>>53892504
thanks Anon, been slowly getting DKoK squads together over the last year and have been uncertain what to paint them but im liking the grey alot.

>>53892518
It still cracks me up how confused GW after Vyridian sales and the reasons why people bought the triumvirate of the Imperium. First reason was Celestine with a far second Cawl in their own poll.

The simply could not understand the market demand for SoB

Wait is the closet tranny working for GW and he is assblasted to know this truth?

>>53892539
explodes twice on a 6 or rolling two dice?

>>53892110
It is pretty boss playing with the three towers and fliers all over it.

>>53892546
The why didn't you post that. That makes way more sense.

>>53892557
fuck off

When celestine rolls a 2+ to get back up, do you have to pay for her in reinforcement points?

>>53892576
You got bated. Next time ignore!

>>53892579
You pay reinforcement for making entirely new units. Replenishing units or units standing back up from an ability like Celestine's (or Guilliman's) do not cost points.

>>53892291
Did You Mean a Foetid Bloat Drone?
Golly Gosh is Eighth Exciting.

>>53892563
I did grey coat, with death world green pants, and used XV88

>>53892568
FW is famous for gibberish rules. Not just "oh this is a typo", full blown "fundamental part of an army is indecipherable/fully missing from the army list for over 5 years"

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>tfw you like religious history and the concept of a hyper zealous order of combat nuns with glorious gothic iconography is awesome
>tfw people think you just want an army of space waifus

Sisters of Battle are one of the last bastions of Imperial grimdark in 40k. They should be cherished, not mocked.

>>53892132
Decimators are almost insane as gun playforms. Abaddon + petards = 7 wounds per turn on anything. Trumps lascannon as antitank. Also makes joke of expensive inv++ saves.

>>53892602
Used XV88 to pick out the pockets and backpacks

>>53892566
yeah. it also confuses me since all the third party vendors (rain heroes, Grishnak, war-games factory) are always sold out of their 3rd party sisters, even when sister rules suck.

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>>53892609

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>>53892560
It reminds them of home.

>>53892609
>forced trannies
>meaning anything to anyone
>ever
FLLLLLLLLLLLLUUUUUUUUUUUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>53892560
Yeah. Death guard is pretty much the chaos version of Space wolf wolf wolfs.

>>53892557
>transwomyn
stopped reading there, nobody cares about your activism here

>>53892326
>>53891491

I'm usually good at spotting the trap.
Frankly, I'd kudos that.

Anybody here had experience of painting commissions?

Cost?

Results?

>>53892599
but you pay reinforcement points each time a unit is set up through reinforcements. Celestine is deep striking a second time, which means she should need to pay the points (according to reinforcements on page 177).

>>53892281
>le peaceful friendly aliums
This is what Taufags actually believe

>>53892648
Are you just trying to get another bad rules shit post like the WTC rule?

>>53892631
To be fair in 7th they where top mid.
The broken armies where their own categories.
Necrons who where the top of the non broken ones had problems with SoB.

Their issue is boring rules and old models, but the rules are solid

>>53892524
It's not subjective, power levels are objectively worse in every way, with the sole exception being that the arithmetic is marginally easier in order to accomodate children and retards.

>>53892525
I am informing people who might mistake power level for an equally valid method of list building. It isn't.

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>>53892609
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olga_of_Kiev
Here's an IRL one.

>>53892642
Except putting poisons and diseases on your shit is visble as a strategy.

Wolfy Wolf riding a wolf with his wolf armour and wolf sword is just dumb.

>>53892667
Nah, that doesn't take much effort this edition. Just read squad coherency rules.

>>53892648
look I know that nobody wants shitsters of basshole to be a thing but don't lie about the rules idiot

>>53892321

I think you mean nice recasts

>>53892645
That is no man. It's just /tg/ wishful thinking

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>>53891018
I don't give a shit about their fluff, but are the Adeptus Custodes any good this edition? I'm looking to try 8e and the Custode's legionnaire aesthetic and low model count appeal to me

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>>53892648
"On a roll of 2+ she is not removed"
She never even leaves play.

I'll admit a certain level of skimming the Imperial indexes since I'm too busy being a filthy heretic, but we don't yet have rules for the Redemptor Dreadnought yet, right?

>>53892672
But as it's in the rules it is. Anyone can pick it. And you will have to just walk away I guess.

>>53892700
Not being able to spot facial structure differences is the main symptom of autism.

>>53892345
What good are crossing points if you can't see the Astronomicon on the other side?

>>53892667
what WTC rule?

I'm actually confused: some people say Necrons "will be back" rule means she doesn't need to be paid for.

Other people are saying that if you summon a unit of demons who were killed in a previous turn, you need to pay for them.

confusion.gif

>>53892672
>objectively
You dont know what this word means

>>53892683

Tribal heretics blown the fuck out.

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>>53892724

>>53892707
>She is needed elsewhere.

"I must go now. My home planet needs me." ("Poochie died on the way to his home planet.")

>>53892715

ain't no dude, she has her own twitter and does modeling i've faped to a few of our outfits

>>53892560
reminder that the thousan sons one is the planet of sorcerers

>>53892711
Nope. Nor the Repulsor Grav-Tank.

>>53892707
but she is "set up"

"reinforcements" (page 177) only trigger when they are "set up", not when they are deployed. "reinforcement points" are used to fund this rule.

>>53892714
Yes, it was added to the rules for children and retards, but is an objectively inferior method for building lists.
Like I said, I won't have to turn down any games because I don't play with any children or retarded people.

>>53892533
>When have lists ever taken that long to make in any edition?
8th edition

Having to use a 3rd party tool to generate a list in a reasonable amount of time is bad game design

>>53892685
Yeah but using your plague marines with plague bolters firing plague bolts laced with plague bacteria and wielding plague knives while riding your plague car with your plague master, the caller of plague while plague cannons hurl plague into your enemies and plague flies harrash them with plague clouds of plague plague. Also swords of plague and plague of swords. Plague.

>>53892744
lol I told you that you have autism.

>>53892707
Dude, get the updated pdfs, they're not camerarips.

You are correct though.

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I want to add some auxiliaries to my GSC forces, since on their own they're a bit underwhelming. I think some backfield and midfield shooty units should help with this, as well as assisting me in getting as many units in reserves as possible.

What is the verdict on the Tyranid flyers? The best loadouts for Flyrants?

What artillery units are best for guard currently? Best LR variant?

>>53892557
Kill yourself tranny faglord

>>53892560
It orbits the Star of Death.

>>53892735
No, I do. Just because you like it, doesn't mean it's purely a matter of opinion. If you really want me to, I will explain the various reasons why power level is an objectively inferior system, but I don't expect you'll be receptive.

>>53892760
Top kek

>>53892759
You have a learning disability.

>>53892347

You mean all of 8th? The only thing moderately difficult thing to remember is reroll natural dice, and they cant even call them that.

>>53891247
>SoB
>Fairly popular
Literally hipster tier

Alright I haven't read up on anything 40k related in three months what has happened and what have the black Templars done if they have been active

>>53892764

you're a fan of 40k, you also have some form of autism

>>53892759
No it's just bad book layout

>>53892560
>Ultramarine base is called Ultramar

>>53892792
If you think an OPINION can be objective, then you don't know what objective means

>>53892753
Do you also think you need to pay reinforcement points to redeploy a mawloc?

>>53892803
They are confirmed back to full Crusading strength. Retcon is retconned.

>>53892804
at least I can visually tell the difference between different types of people

>>53892776
No no no no. You want the guard fliers, and the tyranid artillery.

>>53892717
You can make short jumps and use stars to orient you.

>>53892816
It's not an opinion. Power level is objectively worse.

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>>53892753
The rule that states you pay points for new units is the one attached.

"Each time a unit is added to an army during battle..."

You are not adding a unit. She never leaves play.

>>53892760

Now I doubly need this
>>53891580

>>53892803

Fought alongside Celestine on Cadia, meaning a lot of them died. But since there are a shitload of them anyway they can probably cope. A lot of them are probably trapped on the nightmare world Cadia has become, an eternal crusade against the horrors of the Immaterium.

>>53892806
Isnt the book layout a result of the game design, though?

They purposefully cut the points out of datasheets so they could cut down the clutter to make it easier to enter the game.

>>53892823

not with that autism of yours you can't

>>53892456
I enjoy age of sigmar.

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>>53892840
Nigga go back to playin arthur, youre not ready to debate online

>>53892799
They sell out super fast any time GW releases updates. They're pretty popular, and GW is basically just leaving money on the table for raging heroes by not doing plastics.

>>53892750
Here's hoping that a few of them get taken by the followers of the dark gods - it's far too sexy a model to be wasted on the chadmarines

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Does anything like this exist in canon?

>>53892790
That's no moon.

>>53892821
>Full crusading strength
They used to have 4000-6000. Now they have "multiple fleets of thousands". GW swung all the way back to the other extreme of the scale.

>BT go from 4k to 6k, to 1k to thousands and thousands in the span of only a few years.
>40k has a solid, fixed canon you gais!
Kek

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Does the lore support Black Templars paired with Grey Knights?

>>53892895
I love it.

>>53891877
>"Would you like to purchase a box of Dark Imperium today?"
>"How about I take you home with me instead?"

And then I force her to eat a bowl of eggs.

>>53892895
Exorcist tanks are basically that

>>53892829
I like the aesthetics better for guard gunz/flying nidzillas.

Plus at least if I use guard artillery I can magnetize them for chimeras.

>>53891802
Hellions and mandrakes have always been favorites of mine and I can't find any mandrakes sadly.

>>53892895
IIRC Yarrick had a Baneblade modified to be his personal pimpmobile. The main gun was taken out just to put in a big platform for him to stand on.

>>53892753
"Reinforcements" is a completely unrelated rule from "Reinforcement Points". You can't conflate the two. For example the Ork Psychic power "Da Jump" also instructs you to remove an Ork unit and "set up" the unit anywhere more than 9" from the enemy.

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>>53891989

Its easier when your're typical 40ker looks like this

>>53892860
replying "no you" when people tell you that you have autism is another symptom of autism, anon.

Primaris are probably looking bad because they haven't got their full army yet.
They were probably balanced around their upcoming dedicated vehicles and stuff yet to release.
Once those are out, singing a different tune.

>>53892700
At this point I just assume everyone is a man.

>>53892961
>primaris
>full army
lol

>>53891604
>Orks
>converting to another faith

Anyway, some Imperium sections employ Orks as mercs.

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>>53892895

>>53892458
Everything about the inception of the Primaris marines makes me want them to be horribly unstable and go the way of the Raven Guard's Raptors.

>>53892835
So what you're telling me is that the Tyranids couldn't travel one system over and eat in the Blood Angels in the time it took Guilliman to
>Awaken the Primaris Marines
>Fight off a Daemonic Incursion in the palace.
>Traveling to a crossing point (a trip of months, possibly a year depending on which one he went to)
>Short hop half way across the Imperium Nihulus, a trip that would likely take a decade or more
No wonder people call the Tyranids NPCs.

>>53892557
There's a lot of hate towards trans people here, but not in the hobby itself. Your post is bait, but to any trans people here that aren't saying anything, it's fine. No one cares and if they do, they keep it to themselves and let it out on places like this.

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>>53892895
>>53892948
This. "Fortress of Arrogance."

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Generic captain dreadnought when?

>>53892875
You don't understand, it's not an opinion. Being a fan of power level, it's unsurprising that you're retarded. Maybe a metaphor will help you understand the concept. In the same way that "eyeballing it" is an objectively worse way to measure distance than using a ruler, power level is an objectively worse way to measure an army list than points. That's not an opinion, that's a fact.

>>53890808
last try.

>>53892568
I'd personally say you'd roll two dice, but who the fuck knows what the intention was here.

>>53892840
See, that would imply that points are superior in EVERY SINGLE ASPECT over power.

Don't get me wrong, points are far more balanced, but there are metrics under which power is superior - list build time and simplicity are the omes thay come to mind. I dont care how long you have been wargaming for, it remains faster to talley up power than it is to build a list with points.

Using points values is objectively better for balance, but not overall.

TL;DR: L2English

>>53893027
Let it die.

>>53892959

you didn't even deny it, you just hammered the same nonsense about 'le facial structure' nonsense, as if some thirsty anon who has folders for his collections of feminine anime chaos daemons and female marines is an expert on the feminine form

>>53893016
Dreads usually aren't in leadership positions. Might be a cool thing for them to give Iron Hands though.

>>53893017
>Being a fan of power level
Poor assumption
I never said I liked power level

Keep going, your fundamental understanding of discussion is amusing to me

>>53893034
Yes, its singular advantage, taking slightly less time to build an army list, is clearly designed with children and mentally disabled people in mind.

>>53893036
>insisting this disgusting tranny is a woman
whatever floats your boat