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Dark Eldar Edition

Previous Thread: >>53857568

>Leaks:
https://mega.nz/#F!3odCTLCa!5Jc-zB2-JJcYlT55L6FN8g

>Latest news :
https://www.warhammer-community.com

>8th Edition FAQ:
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>Rules and such. Use Readium on pc/iphone, lithium/kobo on android:
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>7th Ed 40k rules reference in wiki format:
https://sites.google.com/site/wh40000rules/

>WIP Math-hammer doc
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>Roster Builder
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Nth for Guard need new models.
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someone be a doll and drop index epubs if u got em? ill post one when i get paid wednesday if someone gets imperium 1 up
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>>53860789
I don't really need more tallarn models, but dammit having regimental upgrade kits would be great.
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Looking for a good Space Marine chapter to ally in with my Witch Hunter force. I know Black Templars are traditional, but they have a red-and-gold colour scheme that really doesn't work with the Templars' black-and-white. Are there any other good chapters around, or should I make my own?
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>Master of Mankind dead.
It's fucking nothing.
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Give me your tier list /40kg/
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First ever match in general and of 8th. Brought it home for the Dark City over some Primiris Marines. Man are those fuckers resilient.
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>>53860789
Vostroyan plastics when
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Pre-ordered the first day. Hasn't even been shipped yet. what the fuck GW?
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>>53860801
>red-and-gold
red templars
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I claim this thread for the Dark Mechanicum, which now has a character!
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Tell us about your characters.

You do convert your HQs, don't you?
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>>53860827
Nice, welcome to 40k. You gonna give us a full rundown of the match?
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>>53860843
Oh really? Who?
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>>53860827
I love that green look for the raiders and bikes.

Shame your helliarch seems to be the joker.
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>>53860848
No
Fuck off rolfag
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>>53860813
In no particular order among tiers:

>Top:
Knights

>Second Best:
Orks
IG
Nids

>Great:
Sisters
Dark Eldar/Ynnari/Harlequins

>Okay
Everything Else

If they change the first turn rules, then Knights will get nerfed back out of objectively the best. Which is a real shame, because I think the non random first turn is great. But the way it's set up right now, Knights always get first turn, always kill your Knight counter, and then you're done.
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rulebook epub when
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>>53860813
>Tier 1 roughly in order
IG
Tyranids
Orks

>Tier 2 but not in any order
Necrons
Dark Eldar
Harlequins

>lower tiers
Not enough data yet
AdMech seem decent
Grey Knights and Thousand Sons seem decent
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>>53860874
its been out all day look at the links
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>>53860868
>But the way it's set up right now, Knights always get first turn, always kill your Knight counter, and then you're done.
I wasn't aware you could kill objectives
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>>53860850
>>53860858
Yeah I may have made a joker hellions unit gangs reminded me of the jokers from batman beyond. Alas first turn shooting went well for them but the return fire wiped all but the heliarch from the map.
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>>53860868

my knight counter is 666 conscripts tho.
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>>53860868
>But the way it's set up right now, Knights always get first turn, always kill your Knight counter, and then you're done.
Isn't it possible for the knight counters to be held in reserve and hit them after deployment?
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>tfw want to make a custom Sisters minor order of inspiring women, and play them on the tabletop, but sisters are basically impossible to obtain
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>>53860868
>Knights always get first turn, always kill your Knight counter, and then you're done.


>what is deepstrike/LOS
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I need pictures
pictures of striking scorpions
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>>53860850
Disembarked from the raider because I really wanted to run over people with it and that worked ok but the reavers did most of the work once they charged.
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>>53860848
You're god damn right I do.
This here is Ul'Ikai, the Capricious. Former apprentice of my other Haemy, Serilyx,(aka "The Fleshfather". He's minorly converted, all I did was give him an agonizer/whip), now a full-fledged flesh-artist himself.
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Harlequins are the best Eldar
Prove me wrong
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>>53860902
Some can. For instance, Dark Eldar can hold Scourges in reserve. But not all units can be held in reserve.

In the case of Scourges, you're probably only going to have one unit of 4 dark lances, which has a small chance of killing a knight in one turn, but most likely will only severely damage it in one turn before being focused down.
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>>53860851
Chaos Hellwright from the new forgeworld has the Dark Mechanicus keyword and is a super warpsmith.
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>>53860851

They get Chaos Hellwrights in the FW Chaos index, but no unique characters as of yet. You can swap out the <Legion> tag for a <Dark Mechanicus> tag, which is promising.
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I've had a saim-hann army since forever, but stopped playing about 5 years ago.
Yesterday I tried out 8th ed, it was fun but I got tabled quickly.
Tell my /tg, are jetbikes and vypers garbage now, or can I salvage my flying elf biker gang
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>>53860932
They're pretty good, but they lack the variety and fluff of Dark Eldar.
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>>53860868
>If they change the first turn rules, then Knights will get nerfed back out of objectively the best. Which is a real shame, because I think the non random first turn is great.
The suggested rule change from ITC is that the first turn is decided by a roll-off but the player who finishes deploying first gets +1.

I have an alternate suggestion which is a player gets +1 to their Seize the Initiative roll for each Lord of War in the opponent's army, and -1 to the roll for each Lord of War in their own army.
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Nth for fw astartes index never
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>>53860923
The unit of inceptors hid behind the ruins most of the match shooting until I took out the unit in the open. Then his primirus Lt. charged my Archon and the inceptors failed their charge on the reaver there. Archon tanked a whole lot of shots with that shadow field. Power from pain saved my ass on the charges 2nd round. Overall I really like the feel of the army so far.
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>>53860983

Loyalist fags btfo
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>>53860767
wow my waifu is looking extra ravishing tonight
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Pic of my goodbye to 7th Apoc game last weekend
60k points (30 each side pf Xenos+Chaos v Imperium)
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>>53860967
I would keep it non random, because it's great in normal matchups. So my suggestion is that for every Lord of War your opponent deploys, you get to deploy X additional units in your next deployment drop.

X would be tweaked, but let's assume it's 1.

You go first, you deploy 1.
Your opponent goes next, Deploys a Knight
You now get to deploy 2.
and so on.

The other problem is that melee armies might have some issues with their unit counts being too high to get first turn. I wouldn't know, since I haven't looked into it that much.
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>>53860943
>>53860951
Does this mean I can play CSM and admech in a battleforged army now?
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>>53860848
Friend of mine told me about a captain that held his own against a hive tyrant in a tournament a few editions ago.

The captain lost but the battle was memorable enough for him to rip the head off a painted model and replace it with the old bionic one.
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>>53860983
FW index Xenos never. I NEED TO KNOW OF TYRANIDS HAVE A GOOD LOW. I MUST KNOW IF HIERODULES ARE SHIT OR NOT.
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So its been about a decade since I seriously looked at 40k, and gettung the itch after seeing some of the 8th changes. Can Space Wolves still be built as a "shoot them, then fight just as hard in combat" army like they used to be, back when True Grit was a thing?
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>>53860813
Tier 1:
>Orks
>'crons
>IG

>Tier 2:
>Nids
>Grey Knights
>Space Marines
>Sisters of Battle

Shit-tier:
>Everyone else
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>>53861038
Are malanthropes LOW? The leak for that looked impressive.
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Anyone got the ForgeWorld leak for loyalists?
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>>53861022
This was at the end

Nids held
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>>53860813
God tier:
>flavors of marines, dark eldar, nids, (maybe) orks
High tier:
>necrons, (maybe) orks, harlequins, CSM, imperial Knights, guard
Mid tier:
>eldar, mono-chaos, DW, sisters, inquisition and others
Low tier:
>Admech, GK (insufficient on their own in my experience thus far)
Hahahaha fuck you tier:
>tau (Really mid tier memes aside)

However this doesn't take into account mixing and matching armies, which is a big deal in 8th. For example, I've found both chaos and Admech to be weaker alone (chaos lacking a good anvil to their hammer and Admech lacking effective chaff and line protection), but damn good with allies.
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>>53861039
Marines in general are in a low-tier place at the moment. The current rules are just meant to get you by until the actual codices are released.

Marines currently don't have chapter tactics.
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>>53861026
Probably not, there are lots of chaos only robots already. Hopefully chaos gets the big admech upgrade when they move the 30k units over.
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>>53861055
HQ, they're also going to be like 200 points, that's a lot for a 3" -1 to hit.
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>>53861038
Buddy it doesn't come out for a week
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>>53861072
How long does a 60k game take?
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>>53861049
>Harlequins
>Not being tier 1
bazinga
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>>53861039

Basic wolves can buy a Chain sword on top of their bolter/pistol, and longfangs can each carry a heavy weapon instead of being limited to 4 per squad.

So, yeah kinda
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>>53861102
Deployed Friday evening (Powers, random boons and such)
All day Saturday
and about 4 hours on Sunday
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So, RAW, the Word of the Phoenix power affects any Ynnari unit. The unit does not have to have the Strength from Death rule to perform a soulburst. Now, any Aeldari unit can be a Ynnari unit (except for the minor list of exceptions). Including Wraithknights.


Which means you can still soulburst Wraithknights, and other Vehicles, but you have to do a little extra work. Do you think this is intentional, or just classic GW rules wording?
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So I'm not quite sure yet what I'm doing with 8E.

Any thoughts?
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Complete 8th noob - Battle Forged section says that your army needs to have the same faction (ie imperium, or astartes).

If want to build a Battalion can I mix SM and IG to fill out the slots since they both share the faction keyword? I wasn't sure if they meant in each detachment or in your army overall...
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>>53861195
You can mix in both with the Imperium keyword. So yes. Likely Codexes will add benefits to keeping detachments pure, but currently there are only a handful of those (AdMech Canticles for example).
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>>53861195
Yes
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>Still no rules for Thulsa Kane or Vaylund Cal

Come on people where the scans at
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>>53861195
Yes.

You can read this in the Faction paragraph on page 240.
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>>53860840
Well, I'm also looking for someone who can bring something new to the party thematically. The Inquisition is all about hunting down specific people, and having undeniable authority. The Sisters of Battle are there to hold the line against armies of heretics and entire planets turned against the Emperor. The Sisters of Silence are specifically to deal with those who can manifest psychic powers, as assassins in a different way than the Inquisition. The Templars feel like they just do what the SoB do, but with Marine rules instead. Have I misunderstood?
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>Tfw was gonna have fun at the launch party
>Tfw call from mom telling me Grandma is in hospital again and this time she probably won't make it
>Tfw go to mom's house and ride with her down to see Grandma in hospital, and then also get lectured by mother about how I'm too cold and distant and a hermit from all the family
>Tfw it's because I'm bitter as fuck towards all of them over them being irresponsible fuckers all the time and asking me the 24 year old who lives by himself and goes to school while working full time for money
>Tfw younger brother is recovering addict, and older sister is failure as is rest of family
>Tfw they say I'm too bitter and cold when the world is shit and I'd just rather be alone

I'm sad about my Grandma, but god damn it, now they made me feel like a piece of shit. I just wanted to put together my Death Guard...
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>>53861083
>Marines in general are in a low-tier place at the moment
gunships son
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>>53861181
Your archon is going to be footslogging it. Is that intentional? Personally, I would replace some points in helions and talos with ravagers.
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>>53861049
> Tier 1
> Crons
EXPLAIN.
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>>53860801
Red Hunters?
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What's the fucking point of playing a psychic-focused army when the psychic phase is now just a literal crapshoot with a tiny variety of uninteresting powers?

CSM powers are all so lame, even Magnus doesn't do anything exciting. I fucking regret picking up Thousand Sons instead of Eldar, which I only did because I didn't want people whining that I was playing an OP army.
Even with the huge buff, they're just so fucking BORING.
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>>53861253
Getting to roll 4+ reanimation twice a turn and getting either rend or overwhelming number of hits on every weapon
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>>53861244
I'm pretty much in the same boat as you, anon.
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>>53861255
Perfect. Thank you.
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>>53861244
That fucking sucks man, at least the reason I missed the launch was due to my cousin's 10 year old birthday.
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>>53861277
In return for having some of the shittiest vehicles around (t6/4+? What are we, Dark Eldar?) and no decent anti-tank outside of 200+ vehicles that have to stay still.
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>>53861244

Anon, I've been there. Just suck it up and give your family some time. I used to blow off my family all the time for stupid game shit. 'oh it's my raid night, can't go see my parents for dinner'. It sucks because I can't get back that lost time with them and no way in hell do I remember what the fuck I got in drops that night.

Just suck it up and deal with it. Also, fucking download Battlescribe and make lists while everyone else is watching TV or something.
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>>53861276
Play Tzeentch Chaos Daemons. You can field an unkillable number of models, while your heralds sit behind them immune to anything that isn't a sniper. Big T also gets the most interesting psychic power in the game.

Or if you want reliability, play orks! They have the most reliable psykers in the game, and one of the best powers.
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Anyone want some Sisters of Battle Bat-Reps? Quick-ones not shitloads of details. 500 points / 29 power level.

1st against Ynnari with heavy Dark Eldar presence.
2nd a three way against Smurfs & 20 Berzerkers + Kharne. Spoiler: Our Emperor's Red Rage out-blood-godded them.
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>>53861236
If I were you I'd make a Stormtrooper section to bring something new in terms of gameplay, that or Deathwatch in drop pods.
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>>53860767
So has anyone debunked the Conscripts meme list yet?
If no, post that infodoc, I've got a game scheduled in a few days and I have the models to make it happen.
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>>53861276
Don't be a fucking tool. Wait for your codex like everyone else and stop crying.
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>>53861284
>>53861311
I work in the local courthouse and see the worst of society on a daily basis and know the truth that society is crumbling all around me and the reasons why it's dying, yet everyone thinks I'm too cold and bitter. I just want to enjoy the things that make me happy by myself. I don't want to indulge their normie delusions. I was the middle child that had to do everything by myself and never given attention and now that I'm doing mildly well for myself it feels like everyone is always expecting me to pick up the pieces of their lives or is surprised that I'm so bitter, cold, and direct with them when they are being bullshit.
>>53861323
My Dad died 3 years ago from a drug overdose and I found him dead on the floor. Ever since then I've really kind of been broken and don't even want to have anything to do with my family.
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Hey guys, using the online list builder for GSC, how do you add a Weapons Team to an Neophyte squad?
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>>53861318
You forgot the part where it has 14 wounds and is basically immune to actual anti-tank weapons.
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>>53861325
>Or if you want reliability, play orks!
What a strange time we live in.
>>53861333
Yes. Abso-fucking-lutely yes.
>>53861334
I've already got Deathwatch and Grey Knights for a full Inquisition force, honestly. Stormtroopers seem pretty legit - Other than just 'Inquisitorial Acolytes', is there any good existing fluff for them?
>>53861343
> I have the models to make it happen
I don't believe you.
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>>53861276
"Psychic focused army" isn't a thing in 8th. They deliberately killed the "I field Magnus dozens of dice" playstyle. Plus Chaos isn't really designed to play mono-god out of the index. That said, Dark Hereticus is a good discipline. Warp Time is one of the best spells in the game and makes Chaos Terminators very formidable.
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So what do you think the release schedule is going to be like for the Codices? One per month like Sigmar? Slower? Faster? Who do you think will be released first and last?
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>>53861366
> Plasma
> Not an actual anti-tank weapon
> Not going to be seen fucking everywhere now that Imperium plasma's so good

I suppose it's a matter of locale, really.
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>>53861333
Yes please. I love sisters, and I love dark eldar, so please tell me the tale of this conflict.
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>>53861343
Then make it happen faggot, do it and report back with pics and all.

Do it!
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>>53860878
I mean a decent ePub.
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>>53861374
Next month will probably be Death Guard and/or Space Marines to coincide with the global campaign.
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>>53861374
>First
Either Vanilla Marines or Death Guard feat. Morty

>Last
Probably something like Tau. Even though I like my blueberries, they might want to capitalize off other models because they made their killing off Tides and Surges.
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>>53861402
its the digital release epub, what the fuck do you mean decent its the best you are going to get
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>>53861366
Whoever wrote the quantum shielding rule is a fucking retard.
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>>53861343
Well you can't run nothing but conscripts, but damn you can come close. Effectively just a commisar or lord commisar and a platoon or company command, whichever you feel like for HQ choice, then the other for elite. Then three units of conscripts. Repeat 3 times, fill in leftover points with lascannons.

This is because you can't have more than 3 detachments at 1-2k point values. Also because you can't have negative command points. Still 450 conscripts plus lascannon support. 1350 points of conscripts, lascannon HWT are only 72 points, so if we toss 6 teams in that brings you to 1782 points. Enough to toss in cheap lord commisars and platoon commanders.
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>>53861276
You should legit try developing some of your own Tzeentch flavored spell lists with your gaming group. The AoS Tzeentch army book has 3 spell lists that are a good source of inspiration.

Even if you want to still start eldar you could put the Rubrics on the shelf for now and wait to see how they pan out going forward.
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What would be the best Ork units to buy to add to the Orks that come with the Assault on Black Reach set? I'm trying to make a 1500 Pt / 75 Power(?) army from them.
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>>53861374
Rumor is they're going to try to be very fast. But I'm not sure exactly what that means. Last time it took them about two years to get through almost everybody.
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>>53861343

Actually played a 1500pt game, with 150 conscripts and 2 commissars, backed by HWTs (mix of HB Auto and LC) within Yarrik's aura and a load of company commanders.

They are damn good, tabled my opponent turn 3, lost about 500 points.
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>>53861276
Play Thousand Sons as shooty focussed, not psychic focussed. You have a bunch of AP -2 boltguns and storm bolters, plus your rotor cannons. And Magnus is a goddamn BEAST this edition.

The smites are just free extra bonus shooting.
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>>53861181

Drop an Incubi and put the Archon with them in th Venom lel. Other than that, it looks fine. I agree with the other anon that Ravagers are really good now and personally I don't think Talos really even fit the theme of the army much unless you're planning to use them basically solely as distraction carnifexes
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>>53861244
that sucks, man. However, you oughta stick by your family, you may be able to help them.

As someone who missed too many opportunities in his youth, I'd recommend take time while you can.

Good luck frogposter, may a happy family and many good games lay before you
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>>53861411
It's locked at a two page spread and doesn't even work in iBooks. It's not the original digital release. It's been modified.
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>>53861437
I saw Magnus burn through a squad of genestealers and then turn the Swarmlord into a chaos spawn. It was hilarious.
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>>53861412
Eh. They're T6 4+. It just means you're better off shooting them with d3 and 2 damage weapons like Plasma or Autocannons rather than heavy anti-tank like Lascannons. And not all their vehicles have it, so you can still shoot your Lascannons at their Monolith or whatever.
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>>53861368
>>53861333
>>53861388

My apologies for the unfinished models. I had a lot of bad shit happen in real life and I was unable to finish anything. Plan to have those 500 points done before July if I can. I don't recall his list specifically beyond. I also haven't played 40k since 6th really so my ability to recognize some shit in his army failed.

>some HQ hq model
>1 squad of harlequins
>3 squads of wyches
>6 bikes
>ynnari so when shit dies, etc. you know the drill

My list was as in image, except 1 of the squads was broken into two.


>2 squads in rhino on right objective
>canoness + main squad on objective & high ground
>immolator left hand

He charge out in the open with first turn. His cover was not enough to save him from the Emperor's purging bolt guns.

>Act of Faith, Shooting, shooting phase, Shooting again at Wyches + DE Bikes.
>Immolator opens up on bikes on left + above shooting
>PRAISE THE EMPEROR. His left forces are all but dead. One model survives...
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>>53861412
Why? It's an awesome rule.
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>>53861276
Sucks man, missed the launch as well from family a family member passing. Had to give their eulogy as well, just couldn't make it out to get my nerd plastic man's after that.

Good luck dealing with the surviving family members.
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>>53861441

oh wait I forgot Incubi are 5+ now for unit size. Fucking GW
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>>53861374
>already going to print
Chads
Manlets
Manlet flavors
Chaos

>soon
IG
Eldar
Tau
Knights

>maybe in 2 years
Necrons
Orks
Nids
Dark Eldar

>fucking never
Quins
Custodes/SoS shit
Inquisition

>new codex soon with plastics!
SoB
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>>53861244
Sorry to hear that, man.

On the bright side you can look forward to the Death Guard codex release in not too long, maybe that will make up for it.
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>>53861465
It can be kinda lame for high damage weapons, but I don't hate it overall. Looks like Knight guns are damn good for ripping it up, though
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>>53861276
Goddammit why does that picture make me so fucking hard.
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>>53861490
How does the monolith stack up? I just inherited one, and am thinking of starting a Cron army.
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>>53861473
You can run an under-strength Incubi unit to fit the Archon in. But you do pay an 18 pt. tax to do so.
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>>53861455
>He runs across map at me with his death-movement-shit
>One model has made it of the left-wyches to me
>Fuck, I can't see it to shoot it and don't want to give up high ground...
>His turn he makes more movements, not quite in shooting range yet
>Bike's lance attempts to kill rhino - fails miserably
>My turn, I gun down another squad of wyches with Emperor's holy shooting phase. This propels his HQ + last wyche squad almost into my face... his next turn will be bad for me
>Rhino with 2x Storm Bolters + 2 squads rip apart his bikes. 1 and half a wound bike left.
>Meanwhile back at the lone-wyche, Immolator says FOR THE EMPEROR and assaults the fucker.
>Neither can kill each other
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Is there a PDF of the forge world index chaos?
I seriously hate epubs.
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>>53861500
Rigour mortis.
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>>53861452
> doesn't even work in iBooks

It's even better than the digital release then
>>53861343
played scions against conscript spam with commisars, yarrick and HWTs

he couldnt shoot at my vindicares because it makes them 7+ to hit, vindicares just sniped the closest commisars then the scions + knight abused morale to stem the tide of lasguns

won simply due to the fact I got superior objective + 2 others and he had the inferior one
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>>53861501

No teleporting your warrior around

I want my old monolith back, when it was tougher than a land raider, teleported stuff around and allowed reanimation rerolls.
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>>53861521
https://www.docdroid.net/rBfQ3p8/imperial-armour-index-forces-of-chaos.pdf.html
I would upload it, but it's to big.
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>>53861478
>eldar and tau getting updates sooner that older codexes meme
No.

Within the next year and a half, in roughly this order we'll probably see:

Primaris Marines
Death Guard
Space Marines
IG
Tyranids
World Eaters
BRAND NEW FACTION
Emperor's Children
Grey Knights

Some of those might be updated in campaign books instead of Codexes. For example I suspect we'll see a campaign book very soon with Lion and some Dark Angels updates.
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>>53861508
Why a multi-melta rather than a Heavy Flamer? You can't move and fire the melta without -1 BS. It's not a big concern in that game, since they were doing the moving for you, just curious.
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What colors should I use to paint my free Primaris Marine as an Exorcist? Khorne Red?

Also, Primaris has replaced the free/demo pushfit marine and it comes with a pretty cool sculpted base.
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>>53861546
>Popular factions won't get updates
>Lion is next
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can nids even compete against admech with IG?
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>>53861546
Khorne before IG
With a second release with SM
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>>53861508
>His turn
>Harlequins advance
>Wyches + HQ charge in
>Bike squad assaults on right
>One wound to Immolator, Immolator kills a Wyche in melee
>My turn
>Sisters shoot what they can, quickly descending into melee
>Rhino with 2x Storm Bolters RAPES several 'quins
>Bikes die as SoB had fell out of CQC and the 2nd squad opens up double-tap + flamer

Next Turn with image, as relevant

>>53861553
Unfortunately the Immolator is second hand. I don't have the bits. I'm also missing the windshield. It irks me. I have the list pre-set and that is pretty much my only AT at 500 points... the MM also served me poorly because he had no vehicles. That said, I don't tailor lists for my opponents.

Also is 4chan having issues? It took me like a minute to upload this image... also resized it.
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>>53861623
>also resized it.
ty
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>>53861555
Sure. Khorne Red -> Agrax Earthshade in recesses -> Evil Sunz Scarlet would work.

You could sub Mephiston red for Khorne Red. It will give you a brighter, more saturated red. Khorne red is a dark, almost purplish red.
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>>53861586
Seeing how I casually shat all over a list of just that with my nids, I'd say it's possible.
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>>53861421
Two detachments, 1976 points. 15 cp. Could use more commanders. Maybe a vehicle to hide commissars behind.

Brigade: 1251pts
HQ: Company Commander 30pts HQ: Company Commander 30pts
HQ: Commissar 30pts
Troops: 50 Conscripts x6 900pts
Elites: 3x Astropaths 45pts
FA: 3x Sentinels w Multilasers 135pts
HS: 3x Mortar HWS 81pts

Battallion: 725pts
HQ: Commissar x3 90pts
Elites: Priest 35pts
Troops: 50 Conscripts x4 600pts
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>>53860798
I'll say this, if it wasn't expensive as shit I'd use Valhallans for Conscripts. They match the concept so much better.

As-is I just have a fuckton of Cadians.
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Can someone please post Vaylund Cal and the deimos predator?
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>>53861568
They've already started teasing Lion's stuff on the weekly rumour thing, he was implied to be coming soon ever since Wrath of Magnus and then more evidence with Cypher during Gathering Storm, and we know that the Primarchs are getting released in a Traitor/Loyal/Traitor/Loyal alternating pattern insert joke about Lion being a traitor to trigger all the DAfags here so everything suggests he's next after Mortarion.

The only other realistic options are Russ or Sanguinius because they're not going to bring back the other vanilla SM Primarchs like Khan and Vulkan before the First Founding Chapters that have their own Codexes and shit, and there's a lot of controversy over if Sang will even come back. Also Space Wolves got releases during Warzone Fenris too recently to be up next.

So yes it will be Mortarion -> Lion -> either Angron or Fulgrim (personally my money is on Slaanesh before Khorne) -> ???

Besides the whole Primarch update sequence, GW will be slipping in non-Marine releases, and they've already stated that older factions get priority over newer ones. So T'au and Eldar who had relatively recent 7.5 releases with decurions and shit will absolutely not come before Tyranids and Imperial Guard, and those two will probably be updated close to each other since they're now pseudo-allies bridged by GSC.
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>>53861641
What are you running? Anything like this?
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>>53861640
I was thinking either Exorcists or let dubs decide what I paint him as. I got 2, 1 for Brotherhood of the Brush and another just because.
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>>53861079
>>53860876
>Guard at tier 2-3

That's where I want to be. Always strong, never superior. The Goldilocks zone.
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>>53861675
>Traitor/Loyal/Traitor/Loyal alternating pattern
> Leaks point to a hooded Primarch in green
So they're definitely releasing the Lion next, then.
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i want to compile them
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>>53861635
Sorry about that. Forgot it makes them fuck huge.

>Sister squad above steps down. Mows down a squad. HQ charges them due to Ynnari shit. Now locked in CQC
>Canoness comes out and melts then charges Wyches + HQ to join the fight.
>Eldar's turn, lots of sisters die unfortunately.
>Main squad now has 2 models left
>Canoness + Sister Superior goes to town rip and tearing apart harlequin + HQ over the last 2 turns of the game, moral ruining what was left of the wyches and harlequin subsequently

Pic of above to follow. Then the story of how Sisters of Battle out-melee'd 20 berzerkers.
Picture of moments before Canoness breaks
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As I am too low on cash to get the codex like book for my Dark Angels, can I field my Cypher yet or is he still a fallen?

Also if I were to make a IG detachment to accompany my DA, would cadians fit in a lore perspective?
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>>53861248
>Is that intentional?
no, but prior to 8E, I would have her flying around with a squad of 4 incubi...something that's not doable now because incubi are minimum 5 in a squad.

I'm considering biting the bullet and dealing with >finecast, because I hate the old incubi appearance and I could just have a squad of 9 incubi and the archon on a raider.

alternatively I could again bite the bullet and deal with >finecast, just so I can get some sslyth with her and plop her on a venom.
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>>53861675
>They've already started teasing Lion's stuff on the weekly rumour thing
Bullshit. Prove they're teasing the Lion.
>b-but it's so obvious!
Yeah just like all the fags who indisputably thought Yvraine's dress was a hover platform for Vect and that the Visarch was Arhra.
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>>53861711
seconded

i need the tarantula and thunderhawk!
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Now that 8th is out, Daemonkin is a thing for every god. They all share the Chaos keyword, going by the example of the space marine captain from the rulebook that means they can be part of the same detachment that requires all the same faction. There's also no restriction for the legion armies, so you can have Berzerker troops with your daemons as well.
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How good do Thousand Sons perform in 8th? Do any of you care to show me your lists so I can get a good idea?
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Can a Weirdboy use his spells from within a Trukk? I could see speeding around the battlefield casting Da Jump as kinda fun.
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>>53861706
The Primarch releases will almost certainly be

Magnus -> Guilliman -> Mortarion -> Lion -> Fulgrim/Angron -> not!Sanguinius??????/Russ -> Angron/Fulgrim -> Russ/not!Sanguinius
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>>53861727
if anything the next "primarch" is fulgrum
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Typhus's ability to buff poxwalkers up to S4 T4 5+++ seems pretty strong, only problem is they slow as fuck so I chucked a bunch of sorcerers in to spam warptime. Thoughts?
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>>53861739
No. The only thing you can do from inside a Trukk is shoot or provide it a KFF. Psychic powers aren't shooting.
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Is there an epub or pdf of the FW books?
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>>53861727
Just because some fags are bad at predictions doesn't mean all of us are.

I know there's no way to prove this but I haven't guessed wrong about what's next given rumours to work with since Skitarii came out.
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>>53861741
Corvus and Russ would probably return together? Like they are both in EoT
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>>53861746
Eh. They'll probably keep alternating Chaos and Loyalist.
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>>53861677
Aside from having a Malanthrope to babysit the back gunline and less gaunts, yes.
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>>53861746
I don't know why you're putting Primarch in quotations there, but they won't do two Chaos ones back to back.
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>>53861746
>noiselets actually believe this
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Do command auras extend outside or to the transport the character is embarked on? I've got players at my FLGS telling me to put a primus in my rockgrinder to make up for its abysmal +5 to hit.
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>>53861763
>I haven't guessed wrong about what's next given rumours
You're full of shit, given that plenty of what they tease is entirely new shit. There is absolutely no way you could have predicted the Triumvirate of Ynnead or shit like Kharadrons.

Made me reply though.
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>>53861699
Guard are tier 1, without question. I don't know where you got 2-3, the posts you quoted were 1 and 2 and the guy saying 2 is definitely wrong.
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>>53861760
Where does it say that you can't?
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>>53861716
Cypher and the Fallen both have <imperium> and <chaos> keywords but lack <chapter> or <legion> so they can join either faction (even dark angels lel) but cannot take any transports
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>>53861759
>spam warptime
>Can't cast same power more that once per turn in an actual match
Sure thing. One sorc is enough. Maybe two.
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>>53861794
i wanna say no?
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>>53861799
I said "given rumours to work with", as in, if some leaker rumourmonger said "X is coming out" I have not once been wrong about saying "yeah sounds legit" or "no that sounds fake". I also haven't always made a guess at all.

But Lion is clearly next after Mortarion.
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>>53861715
>>53861623
End result in pic. Canoness out-melee'd melee Eldar, or what was left of them. Little did I know she was one of Khorne's greatest champions in disguise... as we find out next match.

>Next game more-for-fun
>29 PP per player
>3 way
>Ultramarines w/ Primarus, Assault, Devs, Rhino
>Khorne Berzerkers x20 + Kharne

Yeah. Fucking 20 'zerkers in one squad & Kharne is equivalent to 500 points of sisters. Fuck me.

I'll focus on highlights.

>Zerks come RIGHT FOR MY CANONESS + 5 SISTER SQUAD
>Ultra Marines back-stab me, fucking mutants, and shoot my rhino + 10 girl squad
>Kharne breaks off and goes right for my immolator + 5 girl squad 2
>Shit looks REALLY GOD DAMNED GRIM
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>>53861781
Does the malanthrope have rules yet?
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>>53861759
thought spearhead detachment requires 3 heavy supports
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>>53861804
Under the transport rules. Read the core. It's literally only 8 pages.
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>>53861822
Bra-fuckin'-vo, man. Also, bravo on having actual Sisters models, secondhand as they may be.
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>>53861823
Yup. Have a gander.
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so if I want to get into death guard, I should buy the two player start, sell the space marine side and get what else?
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>>53861835
8 pages of rules hidden in side notes.
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>>53861716
oh and cadians are pretty fluffy as allies for Cypher because he is known for rallying PDFs and citizens to defend or overthrow their governors
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>>53861794
No. Only effects that explicitly say so, like the KFF, apply while you're embarked. See the "Transports" rule section.
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>>53860848
Of course i convert my own characters

here he is killing a chaos lord in his first game of 8th
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>>53861844
Typhus, more death guard, a sorcerer on a bike, and a bike squad to go with him. Alternately, poxwalkers. All the poxwalkers.
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>>53861850
Read the 8 pages, including the side bars. Bloody hell.
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>>53861733
Anyone?
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>>53861844
Save some money and wait for the rest of the Death Guard releases in the next month or so.

Still to come out:
>The actual multi-part Plague Marine kit with different weapon options from the starter set, and the multi-part Poxwalker kit
>Death Guard Terminators
>The Grand Cultivator of Nurgle caterpillar looking thing
>a new Death Guard tank described as being similar to a vindicator with a triple-barreled cannon
>the Big Guy himself, Mortarion
>possibly a new Typhus kit
>very, very likely a new Great Unclean One
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>>53861675
Actually, including Cypher in the recent fluff stuff just begs DA so yeah, DA.
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>>53861889
>possibly a new Typhus kit
typhus is the best model in the range though
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>>53861843
Damn 10 power for essentially 3 venomthropes is alot.. Although it IS a character so it's inherently ALOT more survivable than venom.

The Prey Adaptation rule seems fantastic but but being a baby sitter wouldn't really make good use of it
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>>53861900
That one's just guesswork, the rest are all either confirmed or pretty reliable rumours from good sources
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>>53861840
>>53861822
OH FUCK ME

>Zerker mob comes at my HQ + Sisters
>Sisters get cut to pieces
>Canoness takes 9 wounds, fails 5
>COMMAND POINT A ROLL!
>SUCCESS! SHE HAS ONE WOUND!
>Attacks back
>Kill 1 Zerker with Eviscerator

>My turn
>ACT OF FAITH, MELEE THAT SHIT UP
>Kill 2 more
>Shooting phase, shit dieing elsewhere I don't care
>Canoness fires melta pistol, kills her 4th zerker
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>>53861844
Personally I'd pick up two Dark Imperium boxes work of DG and then wait for the Codex. It's likely to be soon, and that will give you a better idea. I you really want something else in the meantime solid anti-tank vehicles like the Quad Las Predator or a Land Raider would be good choices. Particularly for pure DG. It's unclear what their Havocs situation will be in the future.
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how many miniatures is average for a 1k chaos list, iv made many lists and i always end up around the 25model count, seems really low especially when fighting hordes
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>>53861236
>The Templars feel like they just do what the SoB do, but with Marine rules instead.
the red templars aren't the black templars

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Red_Templars
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>>53861912
It's really only useful for nidzilla and even then it's hard to justify the cost. Prey adaption is nice but it's really hard to trigger with the way it's worded.
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>>53861912
Don't Venomthropes protect *units*?

Malanthrope's shroud protects *models*
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How many girls play at your stores?
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How are World Eaters and Khorne Berserkers in general? Do the zerker kits come with enough chainaxes?
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>>53861912
That's exactly what my opponent thought before I forced him into my gunline with genestealers, ate his retreating models and shredded the last half of his army on turn 3.
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>>53861889
>>53861914
I don't think we have confirmation poxwalkers are getting a multipose kit, they might just be straight up repackaged from the starter like the Dark Vengeance cultists.

The only things we know are coming FOR SURE are the Plague Marine multikit, the Plague Terminator kit, the Grand Cultivator and Mortarion. The tank and GUO aren't confirmed but I'll bet they're real too.

The 3 characters from the starter will probably get monopose repackaging.
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>>53861956
Oh! That's rad, actually. Also works for acting as a chase scene against any motherfuckers that try to run, giving them a place in the organization.

I thought you meant just paint black templars red and go from there.
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>>53861977
My LGS mostly survive on MtG so we got a lot of girls there.

If you're referring to AoS/40k....none.
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>>53861975
Doesn't matter, the way targeting works if you target a unit you're targeting the models in that unit so you get the penalty. Forge World just sucks at wording things.
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>>53861706
GeeDubz trolls you by releasing Vulkan with a hoodie as a Luke Cage reference.
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>>53861920

>Elsewhere, Kharne invuln's fucking multi-meltas from Immolator...he comes
>Melee with Canoness & Zerkers
>She goes first
>Rocks 3 more with Eviscerator, tearing the shit out of those pussy berzerkers
>All said and done, she's torn apart 7 berzerkers out of 19 (one died earlier to Ultra Lascannon)
>Berzerkers tear into her, 8 wounds
>She loses first roll. CP. Fails.
>She died covered in more blood than the Berzerkers.

NEXT...

>Kharne makes it to immolator with 4 wounds
>Charges it
>KILLS IT
>Consolidates towards the 4 bolt + 1 flamer sister squad behind it...
>My turn, I move the sisters within 4 inches of Kharne...
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>>53861885
Solid, but nothing amazing.

Can soak up a tonne of small arms fire.
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Other speculative DG releases:
Pestigors. They keep being mentioned in the fluff and Tzaangors are already a thing, so I expect to see them. Only thing that confuses me is I'm not sure how they don't overlap with Poxwalkers. Maybe they'll actually be fast.
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Grey Knights players, is the Ghosts of the Imperium a good place to start for 8th? It seems to have a good selection of units for a decent value.
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>>53860848
I'm slowly working on a slight conversion of the visarch model into an archon i'm also working on a custom venom for him too
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>>53861977
Two including me
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>>53861977
I met another one today and I thought we would be friends but she's from out of town.
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>>53862014
Are they described doing anything?
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>>53861977
Half a dozen regulars, a couple of them paint really well too. They tend to favour fluffy lists so get destroyed by grey tide WAACfags.
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>>53862009
Correction: 3 bolt + plas + flame

>Point blank double tap that mother fucker with bolters
>Take him to one wound
>Flamer ignites a heretic
>He fails his last save... COMMAND POINT - no he succeeded.
>Plasma misses

>I charge
>Everyone has you-fucking-what looks on their faces
>Roll Superior first, Chain Sword + 2 A = 3. She can do it!
>FAIL
>Fuck. FUCK.
>WELL MIGHT AS WELL ROLL THE SISTERS
>4 melee
>3 miss
>1 hit
>1 wound
>kharne fails

>Kharne is literally beaten to the ground with the but of a bolt gun, while sisters surround him, screaming at the top of their lungs, beating him with their guns.

And that is how Sisters out-Khorn'd the World Eaters.
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>>53862041
Invaded and conquered worlds alongside other Nurgle forces.
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updated.

does this look better?

I have NO IDEA what to do with my archon now that her usual retinue is gone. maybe bite the bullet on a court? Replace one of the ravagers with lhamaean/sslyth and a venom?
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>>53862034
>>53861977
My girlfriend is working on some khorne marines and demons. First time playing today at the local warhammer store and I saw lots of wives and girlfriends hanging out.
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>>53861975
Oh shit you're right. This is pretty awesome actually.
>>53861970
It helps exocrine and tyrants well enough and are actually MUCH better than venomthrope for not only being a character but having a bigger base size to expand it's footprint
>>53861979
How'd you manage to get genestealers behind him, and his army into the rest of yours? How many units of genes are you running?
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>>53861977
A dozen or so. A female dorm is nearby and some have taken a liking to the hobby
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>>53862054
I meant specific.

Tzaangors were first seen swarming over Silver Tower battlements and firing so many bullets they evaporated the first space wolves over the walls
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>>53862057
Prolly so I foot slogged the Archon and he didint see action for a bit because everything else flew past him.
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>>53862062
> implying you have a girlfriend
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>>53862069
It's really a question if you want to pay ~200 points for a -1 to hit instead of investing that into another unit.
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>>53862030
Looking good.

I like the headswap.
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Shop had a one-hour speed painting contest today for primaris. I won with a blood angel.
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Can your list be made up of 2 of the same Detachments? I need more then 6 elite slots then the Vanguard Detachment gives me.
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>>53862030
Venom wip for anyone who was interested
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>>53862069
Played my positioning with the Swarmlord right and managed to screw him when my Trygon popped up. He positioned himself poorly.
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Good units for a World Eaters list? (Other than Berserkers)
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>>53862094
And heres my prize, a giant smurf in my house
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>>53860848
of course I do.

My archon was a noble that went into hiding when Vect's uprising happened. She submitted to experimentation, but studied under the haem, learning to craft her own taloses. As a result of the experiments however, she has some tattered, worthless wings - a result of the haem attempting to naturally grow scourge wings rather than graft them. She also received some other body mods, hence the bulge in the groin.
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>>53861980
Don't think poxwalker get a separated release at all, their sprue are stuck with half a plague marine. The one with the plasma gun
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>>53862009
Depending on how close he was, Kharn could have consolidated into the sisters for his second fight phase
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>>53862049
>>I charge
>>Everyone has you-fucking-what looks on their faces
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>>53861079
Inquisition have some ridiculously points efficient units. I'd say that an =][= + sisters list would be high tier even if each individual one is mid.
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Where the fuck are the Inquisition listed in the list builder linked in the OP? I cant fucking find them
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Holy shit, I just saw a necron horde list. It was absolutely terrifying.
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>>53862123
They were, at the time, to far away. He consolidated closer, which allowed me to get into double-tap + charge range.

>>53862135
Exactly what I'm working on. And Avenger Strike Fighter.
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Ehh, fuck it. Dubs decides what loyalist chapter I paint this guy as. The cooler the color scheme, the better.
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>>53861800
Is this just a function of conscript spam? Ranked fire? Or mostly because every other faction lost their special powers like chapter tactics and psychic powers and so guard are left strong until their codexes come out?
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>>53862049
This makes me wonder why Kharn doesn't have some kind of go down swinging rule where he gets to attack even if killed
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>>53862076
Everyone on the internet has a girlfriend Anon :)
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>Q: If I can choose a keyword for a unit, such as <Regiment> for Astra Militarum, could I choose that keyword to be, for example ‘Blood Angels’ or ‘Death Guard’?
>A: No.

>Q: If I create an Astra Militarum Regiment of my own and name them, for example, the ‘Emperor’s Finest’, and I then also create an Adeptus Astartes Chapter of my own choosing, and also call them the ‘Emperor’s Finest’, do the abilities that work on the <Regiment> and/or <Chapter> keywords now work on both the Astra Militarum and Adeptus Astartes units?
>A: No.

How utterly BTFO are the 'we can totally run tau with 'aeldari' as their sept' faggots?
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>>53862155
Angels of Absolution
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has anyone converted the rules epub to pdf or mobi? it hangs at 47% with calibre
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>>53862155
You have dub yourself
But I vote Thousand Sons
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>>53862155
Celestial Lions.
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>>53862087
200 points is a bit steep yeah.

However if you want a -1 for infantry models atleast it'll be 93 points for 3 venoms and 72 points for a unit of babysitting warriors. At that point you might as well pay the extra 30 or so points to have a vastly survivable thrope that can also give synapse and benefits to anything in your army
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>>53862155
SPACE SHARKS BE JAWSOME DUDE.
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>>53862176
>>53862177
fuck you for stealing my dubs
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>>53862155
scythes of the emperor
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>>53862152
Oh I see. Has he figured out yet that you can do those kind of shenanigans? Blood for the Blood God is amazingly strong
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>>53862155
Flesh Eaters
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So the galaxy is currently divided in two. The plot moved forward slightly. Are they going to retcon it? Or are we going to have an imperium side and an anarchy side?
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>>53860798
I feel like the problem is so many are dressed so differently.
Slap a couple symbols on a shoulder pad and you've changed half your marines over.
IG you want different heads, bodies, sometimes packs etc
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>>53862049
I find it hilarious how easy it is to kill Kharn in melee. Two Deathwing Knights destroy him in a single turn.
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>>53862155
Silver Skulls.
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Do I need to roll for the reserves or they could just fly in ?
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>>53862155
Rainbow Warriors
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Just realized with the FAQ'ed plasma, abilities that give -1 to hit are now way stronger against imperial armies with all their plasma.
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>>53862220
Has he ever been that tough? I thought he was always better at giving than receiving.
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>>53862222
You can't put flyers in reserve these days.
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>>53862155
The Hanged
do it
Take the Knot
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>>53862222
There are no reserves any more. There are units that start on the table, and units that can deep strike when you choose, at the end of any of your first 3 movement phases.
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>>53862155
Astral Claws pre-you-know-what
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>>53862232
I figured that someone who in the lore is revived once every 10 minutes by Khorne would be fairly tough. I guess GW disagrees.
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>>53862155
Relicators
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>>53862231
>"It's alright sir, I'll kill that malanthrope!"
>"JENKINS, NO-"
>FWOOSH
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>>53862155
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>>53862174
We call them the Wu-Tang Clan here.
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>>53862098
Yes.
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>>53862190
>>53862155
Re rolling this!
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>>53862155
Star Phantoms
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Whaddya think-

>3 4-man storm trooper command squads with volley guns
OR
>3 Kataphron destroyers with grav cannons and phosphor?

48 S4 AP-2 or 15 S5 AP-3, in addition to all the other diddlies. Whaddya think, and if it factors in I've got another squad of kataphrons either way as well as a neutron Onager and a knight-warden with stormspear pod.
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>>53862098
What fucking army are you running?
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>>53862155
BLOD REHVENS
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>>53862263
the moving thing always weirds me out...then again...

>Devastator starts running while aiming plasma cannon
>trips
>fires supercharged shot right into the ground as he falls into the discharging plasma ball
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>>53862155
Sky Sentinels
RIP MY NIGGAS, FLY HIGH IN THE SKY
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>>53862155
take the knot
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>>53861862
Zog me dat's a flash bike
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Is Tank Order given to a single Leman Russ model, or a unit of Leman Russ (1-3 models)?
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>>53862155
Lamentors
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>>53862155
Brony Marines
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>>53862117
Hmm. Then that means they're either getting an actual kit or that they'll only be available in Dark Imperium.

Or maybe if the Pestigors speculation is right they'll be a dual-kit.
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>>53862283
The servitors seem tougher, and they get Canticles.
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>>53861980

I fucking hope not, it would be shit if the lords of contagion got stuck with no options whatsoever.
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>>53862155
Ultramarine :^)
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>>53862155
>>53862300
Winner!
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>>53862174
The answers were longer than that.
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>>53862300
IT'S HAPPENING. GET ME A PAINT SCHEME AND THE KNOT WILL BE TAKEN.
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>>53862305
No more units of russes. read the rules.
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>>53862098
Veteran IG? Yep. 2 Vanguards - 12 elites max.
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>>53862321
I have no idea if that chapter ever had a paint scheme, someone help me out here.
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>>53862157
Horde spam in general is just strong. Even if you remove conscripts regular infantry squads are pretty good. Orders all got better. Removal of Formations evened the playing field a lot. Artillery tanks and HWTs are really good. Scions are disgustingly good.
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>>53862094
Nice job
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>>53862320
the rest was just explanation why the answer is there, which amount to 'of course not, you fucking retard'
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>>53862321
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>>53862220
A lot of models this edition are effectively glass cannons that can dish out enough damage to kill their mirror in a turn
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>>53862336
>Black with red and 1 pink.
Damn, that's boring. I'm half way done if that's the case.
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Correct me if i'm wrong, but i thought the reasons bolters don't have stocks are:

a. marines are usually dropped into close-combat shock assaults
b. power armor has a bunch of servos and targeters that allow the user to accurately fire from the hip
c. aiming from the shoulder would be awkward with power armor on

or, is it occam's razor that GW simply can't into firearms?
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>>53862336
horrid
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>>53862336
>>53862328
That's it! Paint it up good, and prepare to take the knot.
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>assault bolters are 7 points each in the starter box book but 15 fucking points each in the index

FUCK
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>>53861862
That's awesome and now I'm annoyed I didn't think of making a Ed Roth biker boss already myself.
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>>53862344
Yeah, but you have the opportunity to make their chapter symbol a dog cock.
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>>53862311
I could be wrong about that one, considering Exalted Sorcerers got a whole special kit.
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>>53862305
Vehicle Squadrons in 8th deploy at the same time but operate as entirely independent units once the game begins. So the answer is one.
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So why would I take a volleygun on Tempestus Scions instead of a plasmagun? Sure, more shots, but at a much lower to-hit and to-wound, so less shots getting through, even against low-t targets...
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>>53862009
I need a name for my Canoness.

She earned it.
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>>53861402
Beggars can't be choosers. Nut up or stop being a nigger.
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>>53862360
The index takes precedence until we get a Codex.
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>>53860767

Can someone recommend me a good ereader for the new books?

Everyone I've tried mangles it.
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>>53862220
I just kill him by throwing a Chainfist Contemptor at him. There's not much in the world that can't be solved by throwing a dreadnought with a chainfist at it.
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>>53862381
Lil, short for Lillith, but she doesn't like LIllith because of daemonic associations.
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>>53862049
> only primed models
Both of you suck
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>>53862391
Readium,
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Thoughts on my list?
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>>53862381
Fjori
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Other than blue paint, what sorts of extra gubbins would you expect on Death Skulls vehicles/bikes? I'm thinking about just taking extra bits from old kits and bashing together parts of the vehicle to make it look like it has looted parts.
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>>53862384
8/8
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>>53862345
they also have vid feeds from the bolters sights in their helmets HUD
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>>53862422
Holy shit, they're just straight up footballers, aren't they? They didn't even have any pretense back then.
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>>53862422
bits and helmets of other factions bikers they've bested. Broken front plate+half of a boltgun from a Space Marine bike, Reaver bits, Shining Spear helmets/broken lances, etc.
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>>53862384
The models look good.

Be more careful of what you post here though.
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>>53862287
100% pure dreadnoughts. The blood angels list gives you librarian dreadnoughts as HQ. And the rest is just blood angels and a couple regular dreadnoughts for plasma and lascannons.
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>>53862252
Well if he was tough, why would khorne have to revive him every 10 minutes?
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>>53862411
> no Giant Chaos Spawn
Why not? It's only 75 points.
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>>53862461
??? Oh the person in the back? Gotcha
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>>53862409

I'm not really a fan of web readers, are there any others?
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>>53862384
QT
T
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>>53862345
Aiming from the shoulder looks cool though.
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Still nothing on the Imperial FW Index?
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>>53862487
Azardi
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>>53862094
Nice anon
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>>53861402
>>53861452
2nd for unmodified epub, please
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>>53862481
>>53862496
>>53862461
>>53862435
Reposting without background distractions
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>>53862518
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>>53862508

I've tried them, the text is all over the place.

I never thought I would say this but I wish they'd just release it in PDF.
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Full FW Chaos Index PDF format.

http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=42492327752258854809
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>>53862479
Christ, can you even kill that thing?
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>>53862422
deathskull skulls, bones, and other "lucky" talismans
deffgun bullet holes and "rough" repairs
mek motifs (gears, oil, and grots)

going the extra mile mode
>vehicles that were clearly painted some other color previously but have blue paint covering the majority of it
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>>53862111
You did a good job painting, and I hope you like what you won. You didn't have to pay an entry fee I hope, because then you basically paid to take out the store owner's garbage.
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Any torrents of the pdf rule books?
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Played SoB with power points over TTS, For kicks (and to try out the 'S5 AP-1 is golden' thing) in a 100 power game I took an army of:

>1x Celestine
>6x Retributor squads, all 4 Heavy Flamer and Combi-flamer
>2x Seraphim squads, 2 Hand Flamer sisters each
>9x Immolators all Immolation Flamers
>1x Crusader squad + 1x Arco squad

For a total of 57 flamers.

Went against chaos that was mostly squads with lascannons/missiles supported by chaos lords/daemon prince and sorcerers with a 10 man unit of thousand sons that had the same support and obliterators in reserve. Deployment zones were 24" away from each other and chaos went first, destroying 1 and then disabling 1 immolator and using a psyker sped up rhino to block another from advancing. But he moved his infantry up as he did so, so on my turn, I roasted a third of his army in an all out rush while positioning seraphim behind cover to jump his havocs.

Next turn Celestine succumbs to smites in psychic phase, revives 9" from havocs angled to only allow one squad to fire at her. Crippled immolator destroyed, and another one, and a few retributors killed. Then on my turn act of faith boosted seraphim+celestine slaughter his havocs while immolators/disembarking retributors mop up infantry and kill the prince as well as almost a 2nd obliterator, and the thousand sons were dropped to 2 models by a single squad+immolator. This is despite 3 of my 6 immolators having to fall back that turn (dropping flamer squads before they left).

We were playing objectives but my opponent immediately conceded at the end of turn 2. I know it was a >power game but I was taking the cheaper options for kicks. I only lost 6 sisters and 3 immolators. I also consistently rolled below average for number of flamer hits.

So, heavy flamers are pretty cool. And don't advance on sisters unless you plan on making it into melee.
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>>53861333
Rhino can't ride inside of Immolators, why would you even think that they could?
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>>53862537
You can with chainfist contemptors! It's pretty handy actually to just punch it to death in a single round of combat.
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>>53862537
Easily, if it were a character it'd be another story entirely
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>>53862537
Concentrated fire. If you leave it to do its own thing you are going to have a bad day.

I want to take 6.
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>>53862155
Ultramarines, of course.
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>>53862563
They were disgusting in 7th and so much fun

Still disgusting and still fun
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>>53862345
Yes to all of your points. The IG probably have stocks but to keep the wargear easily identifiable on table they remain the same. Some art shows otherwise like the Voidmaster from FFG Rogue Trader and the unusal styled bolt pistol the pilot uses in battle for Macragge box set.
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>>53862552
How is TTS for 40k? Is there a community to find games with?
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Does anyone have the image of the Wraithlord with a top hat?
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>>53862101
I guess that's one way to make use of all those extra fins
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>>53862028
decent if you save some money on the bundle compared to individual boxes. Its likely none of the models in that box will go unused
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>>53862546
>vehicles that were clearly painted some other color previously but have blue paint covering the majority of it

dat's proppa

extra extra mile:
>visible blue paint-roller strokes over the base color
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>>53860848
Pretty sure I've posted before, but yeah my whole IG is converted, HQ included.
>>
Thread is in autosage, might as well migrate to the duplicate now: >>53860793
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Probably a dumb question, but other than more boyz, how should I deal with massed enemy infantry as Orks?
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>>53862343
girlyman's fairly tough
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>>53862611
I just play with friends, but yeah there's a discord that always has several hundred people on it who do shit.

I can put together a thousand dollar army in five minutes and be ready to play it, so that's cool. It's easy as hell to try a new army out for that reason, and you can actually play weird shit like 60 MULTI-MELTAS if you feel like it.
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>>53862135
Crusaders, death cults and arcos are amazing. I got a bunch of models to count as so I'm excited to run half Guard half ministorum and a sprinkle of inquisiton.
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>>53862696
What's the discord?
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>>53862537
It's just T5 so even with 10 wounds and an invulnerable save, it'll go down to multi-damage weapons S6 and up.
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question. it says here up to 4 chosen can replace their wargrear with w/e. but if i take a squad of 10 chosen , only 4 can have powerswords for example?
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>>53862530
I've used Azardi, Readium both for PC and I have no issues, with downloads from here or Official downloads from WarDigital. On Android I use Kobo with no issues either, For some reason I cant get Calibri to make a good pdf though.
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>>53862751
Correct.
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>>53862630
Should've gone with a T-shaped antenna for the full Rifleman effect.

Although the ammo drums do give it more of a Jaegermech vibe.
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>>53862751
The first guys actually are Chosen

The rest are mooks, extremely expensive mooks
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>>53862754
thats dumb, why take more than 5
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>>53862479
>75 points at 5 power
Doesn't check out. See if its melee weapons have a cost.
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>>53862752

Readium is working fine, I just wish I didn't have to go through chrome to get to it.
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>>53862768
So that when I kill 3 of them with plasma volleys, you don't have to take from the sword-wielders.
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>>53862343
On the other hand some are the exact opposite. Not-that-killy/shooty but fuck-ass tough. i.e. vehicles
>>
Sternguard vs intercessors what are your thoughts
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>>53862720
The one I'm on is:
https://discord.gg/neuautf

There's a reddit one too but I don't know anything about it other than that it exists.
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>>53862796
>>53862754
>>53862765
so if i wanted melee chosen, this would be legal i suppose?
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>>53862840
If you're sticking them in a Rhino, 9 might be better so they can be joined by a Character.
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What do you think her favourite army is?
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>>53862859
yeah thats what im gonna do, just seeing if it was legal, this whole time i thought i could run 10 powerswords, lucky i read everything 20times before investing money into something

thanks for the clarification
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>>53862891
Nids.
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Some fun facts

>it takes 101.25 bolter shots to kill 5 plague marines, it takes 90 bolter shots to kill 5 primaris marines.

>5 plague marines rapid firing against MEQs do 1.11 unsaved wounds

>5 intercessor primaris marines rapid firing against MEQs do 1.67 unsaved wounds

>death guard are 11% tougher against bolter fire but same/better against high AP/multi-wound stuff

>Primaris marines are 33% stronger against essentially all targets although plague marines can take special weapons which really does affect things while making them non trivially more expensive.

>plague marines are 21 a pop, intercessors are 20 each.

They actually seem pretty balanced against each other
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>>53862891
Well she's fat enough that she might actually play

I vote dark eldar
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>>53862818

Sternguard are flatly better at shooting, intercessors are nearly twice as survivable. Both are about the same price per model.

Two different roles.
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>>53860917

>not picture of Warp Spiders
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I hate lascannons

i hate how you can just reroll a dice or go ahead of someone in combat even if they charged you
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>>53862155
>>53862336
The knot was taken. Albeit, in a quick and dirty fashion(because the paint scheme is pretty boring.) But, hey, it's something.

I don't want to have to explain about how this is the chapter made up by an autistic user of a Laotian dog-cooking forum every time someone asks about it, so first 8 decides the chapter this thing stays as. Pick a nice and colorful chapter this time, folks.
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>>53860848
One of my most proud conversions, Lord Gulgin the Cyclops.
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>>53862184
loyalist.. so would that be bloodravens?
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>>53862818
>>53862940

Let me expand

10 sternguard rapid firing their special bolters into MEQs will do about 4.44 unsaved wounds, their special weapons can help bump this up a bit more.

10 intercessors will do about 3.33 unsaved wounds with 20 wounds in the bag.
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>>53862368
should of named them the dindonuffins
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>>53863022
I'd say Astral Claws, but it looks like you got your choice here >>53863048 instead.
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>>53863022

Crimson Fists.
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>>53862891
when will the meme that women play this game finally be put to rest?

if a women ever plays the following is always true:

>boyfriend will dictate everything she does, as she has no clue (nor does she care)
>the only thing she actually does is roll her own dice
>she will either be a fat attention whore or a meek little nerd chick who says almost nothing and shows no emotion
>everyone in the store will try to help her out, by giving her pointers-- often to the chagrin of her boyfriend
>everyone loses focus and things turn to shit, as normal when women involve themselves in this hobby

This is spoken truth

Moral of the story, leave your bitches at home.
>>
>>53863148
>Bikes in a drop pod
You're a madman wong burger!
>>
>>53863189
you left off would be a trap.
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>>53863240
Not everywhere is Americawith its massive population of traps, in comparison to, say, Europe.
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>>53860848
Broodlord. Well, he was a broodlord way back before they had a model. Used him as the Parasite of Mortrex a few times. Now I don't know.
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>>53863255
JEsus christ how horrifying
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>>53863189
EVERY SINGLE GOD DAMN "gamer grrrrrl!!!" "wargamer girl!!!!!!!" I've seen (well, 70%) are fucking Trans. Fuck them. Go talk to Mike Pence and get electroshock therapy. You are not a woman.
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>>53863033
wow. you really captured the blurriness excellently.
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>>53863240
>hating traps
What's wrong, you don't like a little surprise dick sometimes? 'Cause I think it's great.
>>
>>53863022
Angels of Absolution
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>>53863364
I know that's you slanesh .. stop it!
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>>53862598
The voidmaster (if we're thinking of the same guy) is using a shotgun.
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>>53863006
... what?
>>
>>53863189
Some girls play but most who do are trans. Theres one trans girl at my store that plays a lot and is really good at the game. All the guys love her cause she's funny and cares about the game.

I think only me and a few others know shes trans. Pretty good pass job. One guy who knows makes sure to call her him all the time just to be mean.
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>>53861244
Looking at this post and its answers I have to conclude /tg/ is full of psychopaths
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>>53863512
>Trans girl
>Not just a man in drag
I bet you're a Slaanesh player, too.
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>>53863022

Warmongers
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>>53863549
Not a big deal to be nice to her. She's cool. Sorry you hate the mentally ill.
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>>53863571
I don't hate the mentally ill. Far from it. It's just that playing into the delusions of someone who's grasp on reality isn't the strongest is far from being the way to help them.
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What the fuck can you paint death guard that looks right that isn't fucking green or off-white
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>>53863633
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/The_Purge

Perhaps this?
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>>53863616
Doesn't seem like she needs help. What more do you want from a person if they have a job, are well adjusted socially and take care of their family?
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>>53862049
I DON'T KNOW YOU
THAT'S MY PURSE
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>>53863687
I'd honestly want to see them get better. To stop deluding themselves and letting others reinforce it. It's not a healthy way for them to live in the long run.
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>>53863717
You're so full of shit.
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>>53863747
What have I said that's so wrong?
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>>53863747

I have nothing but compassion for people who want to cut their dick off and take hormones because they're having an identity crisis, I only wish it could be resolved in some way that doesn't cause them permanent and irreversible damage.
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>>53863788
Dude you gotta just shrug and accept because apathy is cool.
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>>53863633
Pick a dart frog or look at cordyceps and clickers from TLOU.
>>53863747
>>53863788
You two stay here and hash this out. Everyone else migrate

>>53860793
>>53860793
>>53860793
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>>53862174
I don't think anyone expected it should work, just that until it was FAQ'd it totally did. I think most Pe realised a dat one errata was going to fix it.
>>
I've now looked at the pdfs a bit. Immortals cost 8 while warriors cost 12? WTF?

GW Would never make a mistake in their rules!
>>
>>53863189
Girls collect. They just don't go to LGSs. Most I know either play with our close group of friends or are mostly in it for the painting.

I assume that's how most female 40k players do it considering the average clientele at the average LGS.
>>
>>53861149
I hope you are right
>>
>>53863884
Immortals might have to pay extra for their guns
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>>53863801
>I haven't experienced gender dysphoria so it doesn't exist.
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>>53863972
He isnt saying it doesnt exist he's saying letting people suffering from a mental disorder shouldnt be encouraged to mutilate themselves.
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>>53864028
There's a difference between surgery and mutilation though
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>>53862411
Isn't whip + gun da best on Hellbrute now?
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>>53864109
Cutting off your dick is mutilation regardless of whether you get morphine before it.
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>>53861977
there's one girl (male), but no girls (female) who play 40k
there are some female MtG players though, but it's still mostly a male crowd
>>
>>53864123
Even if your brain is telling you it shouldn't be there?
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>>53864140
Why are genitals appropriate organs to remove?
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>>53864140
YES! Jesus fucking christ anon gender dysphoria is a mental disorder, its a sign that something in your brain is messed the fuck up. You dont give in to the impulses. Studies have shown that trans people, even after surgery, still have extreme levels of depression and suicide.

It doesnt help.
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>>53864140
>>53864165
>>53864167
Stop talking about trans shit in my 40k thread!

REEEE-
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>>53864181
Anon the thread is done, go to the new one and let us rape this corpse in peace.
>>
fuck off autogynephile scum
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>>53863928
Nope. If this is actually in the books, immortals seem like they might be crazy broken.
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>>53864420
Wrong.

Warriors are 12 plus a 0 gauss flayer.

Immortals are 8 plus a 9 gauss blaster or tesla carbine
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>>53860868
>knights top tier

LMAO

>you don't have enough sheer volume of firepower to deal with hordes
>-1 to hit across practically the entire DE/harlequins range will make you cry
>not to mention 4/5+ invul saves on practically the entire index of DE/harlequins
>people can use command points to seize initiative
>objective games are your worst nightmare

Gl hf
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>>53864651
Oh yeah, and
>quantum shielding completely fucks your day
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>>53861759
>1488 pts.
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>>53863022
It stays The Hanged
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>>53864165
>>53864140
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apotemnophilia
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>>53861022
Holy KEK
30k pt and fukin 4feet board.
Why you even bother with minis?
How you call a stand-off shooting like that a battle?
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>>53861244
Think about your grandma and stay close to her for her last moments, then stop giving a fuck about your family if they make you unhappy. You do you anon, being 24 and living alone and everything isn't easy! Good luck!
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>>53861244
Anon, dont listen to those >>53861323 >>53861443 cucks,stay away from addicts and failures. They had their chance, and ow they want to drag you down to hell with them.
Be strong, Dark Gods protect.
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>>53861412
It's decent. You just have to hit stuff with quantum shielding using weapons with a lot of 1-2 damage wounds. The cron player has to roll for each wound, not for the total damage he got from all the wounds.
>>
>>53862411

Can I just ask what army builder you're using to make those outputs?

Ta in advance!
>>
Ork Stompa have 3 Supa-rokkits with following profile:
>100'' Heavy D3 S8 AP-2 D6
BUT
>Only one supa-rokkit can be fired by bearer a turn, and each can be fired once per battle.

So I don't roll for that heavy D3 profile anyway, because i can fire only one per turn? What's the point of that profile.
Or it can shoot one and it scores D3 hits with following rolls like in profile?
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>>53863892
>considering the average clientele at the average LGS.
This couldn't be closer to the truth.
>>
>>53863512
>one guy who knows make sure to call her him all the time just to be mean

Jeez i wonder why people stop playing in stores. These kind of people are the worst.
>>
Still no forge world ig leaks?
>>
>>53863189
I work at LGS and we have a few girls that collect, paint and play. Mostly skirmish games like Malifaux or Wolsung, but there're ones that goes for 40k (one have Thousand Sons army, one goes with Dark Angels and one with SoB) and Age of Sigmar (2 of 3 have sylvaneth because QT tree elves).
Some of them shows up alone, some of them comes with their boyfriends who also play same game.
No sperging form omega-males so far.
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>>53866137
What would be the policy against omega male sperging?
>>
>>53866011
I agree, mentaly ill gender freaks should be locked up, think of the children that come tho that shop.
>>53866155
Violence.
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>>53866155
tell him to chill the fuck out, same as with sperging on game
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>>53866208
I was talking about the guy being an high school bully against the trans. Personally i don't give a shit if you have a vagina or a dick, artificial or not, or if you have purple hair or piercings/tattoos. If I go to a store to play a wargame with plastic toys, i want my opponent to play the game normally. Politics go out of the window as soon as i enter the shop imho.
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