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Pathfinder General /pfg/

Quest Giver Edition: Who is the most memorable quest giver your party has every encountered? What made them so memorable? Did any of them look like this guy?

Unified /pfg/ link repository: http://pastebin.com/hAfKSnWW

Current Playtests: https://pastebin.com/quSzkadj

Old Thread: >>53319187
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>>53327008
>Who is the most memorable quest giver your party has every encountered? What made them so memorable? Did any of them look like this guy?

A pun-loving bard who once told us to cut the heart out of the high priest of a love god.
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>>53326990
>>53326992
>>53327003
Well shit then, time to be Old I suppose.

Now there are three paths open to me:
>Kick the retard level up to 11 and be an Exploiter Wizard
>Go full crafting specialization
>Divination out the ass

No matter what's happening I'm grabbing Orator.
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>>53327055
This better be a crotchety old woman
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>>53327071
She should live in a shoe.
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>>53327087
How many children should she have?
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>>53327071
>Female Option
Granny "Grizzly" Griselda
>Male Option
Ole' Man Narder "Don't trust the Gob" Guiles
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>>53326747
That's not even close to true. Don't make me break out the math.
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>>53327055
Have you seen the Pact Wizard from Haunted Heroes handbook?
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How edgy would a Bloodborne based Harbinger be?
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>>53327120
I don't have a stake in this nor do I know what the conversation is actually about, but I'd love to see AC math to better understand it.
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>>53327134
incredibly
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>>53327120
YOU'VE SUMMONED HIM

NOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>53327134
Edgier than a saw blade covered in the blood of all the NPCs you murder.
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Post your character arts and a thought about your own character.Are you happy with him/her or not?
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>>53327055
Mememaker, mememaker, make me a meme.
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>>53327132
I want to be a degenerate, but not that much of a degenerate.
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>>53327120
You showing up reminded me, but I wonder the following: If Deadly Agility is being changed to directly replace Strength in functionality, does this mean that a Dragon Ferocity using Scaled Fist Monk with Deadly Agility becomes the ultimate damage dealer? Will we have to wait to see what exactly the wording on the "New and Improved (tm) Deadly Agility" is before we can make a final decision?
Remember, Dragon Style has a Str requirement, but Scaled Fist monk can skip those requirements.
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>>53327097
So many she doesn't know what to do.
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>>53327188
why are they buffing deadly agility
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>>53327138
Pic related. See how higher ACs reduce damage taken from a full attack?

>>53327150
mahahAHAHAHAHAHahahahah.

>>53327188
I...wait...what?

When is this happening? And once you add in PoW stuff then rules are made up and the numbers don't matter.
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>>53327215
Its a rumor and not confirmed, honestly I would prefer it if it did not.
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>>53327215
Because fuck TWF builds and at this stage it's more of a joke than a reality
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MEMES. GIVE ME MEMES. MEME ME MEMESTERS.

WHAT MEME SHOULD PROPAGATE FOR FLOWER COURT? IS THE PRINCESS 2HU?
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>>53327265
Why would it hurt twf?
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>>53327287
they would only get .5 dex to damage for their offhand
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>>53327276
what is your malfunction?
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>>53327300
Why do you wear the trip?
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>>53327300
probably autism
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>>53327300
>trip is buildposter
>isn't posting builds
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Ok so how do I into thrown weapons with thrashing dragon? Do i use mwk silver knives or am I better off with mwk silver shuriken? Is it worth taking rapid shot when I already have twf?
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>>53327287
because a direct str replacement means 0.5x dex mod for offhand, requiring double slice in order to function.
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>>53327327
Shuriken, if you can get the bonus damage, is always much better than knives.
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For mythweaver sheets, Normal or Experimental?
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>>53327316
>>53327326
>not knowing nameposting and tripposting apart

faggots
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>>53327276
Let's meme rivalry between Pilgrimage and Ensoulment. They're just similar enough to draw comparisons.
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>>53327336
Is one feat going to hurt TWF so bad? You're already getting a great saving on not having to invest in str so doesn't it even out?
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>>53327364
Still being non-anonymous without a reason on 4chan. He's a faggot, and so are you.
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>>53327358
Normal. Though I'd hate to use mythweavers for anything important after the mess they made.
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>>53327346
Is there any way to make upgrading them cost effective?
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>>53327376
Considering how TWF builds are moronic to begin with? One more feat to the 5 you already had to take is more of a kick in the stomach than anything, but it's still fucking stupid.
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>>53327383
If he sucks my cock, I'll suck his!
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>>53327276
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>>53327389
I'd like to use Google Docs for actual in-game sheet, but mythweavers is kind of the standard for most application processes.
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>>53327428
All pfg games use feat tax rules to lighten that right?
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>>53327376
Given that TWF is not only the most feat taxed fighting style in the game, but also the most expensive? Yes.
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>>53327446
Do remember that for better or for worse, PoW is balanced against a standard ruleset.
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How should I RP as a cleric? Do you have any ideas for backstory/beliefs/mindset?
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>>53327427
Once you slap returning (for 1/20th the price for a single piece) on around 10 shuriken, you can have a few with different sets of abilities
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>>53327446
It still is a nerf to that since even the pfg game twf builds needed DA, TWF, and now will need double slice just to get back where they were. And still have to pay twice to enchant their weapons. And twf doesn't mesh well with Strikes, unless you spend even more feats to use thrashing dragon style.
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>>53327376
You're already spending a lot of feats compared to power attacking with a greatsword to achieve damage that isn't really much better. That's 6 feats just for basic TWF tree + dex to attack/damage. Unless you have bonus feats from class or race, that leaves just 4 feats for other things - three with double slice. So in that context, yes, having to spend an extra feat counts for quite a bit.

That said, I for one don't mind dex-based TWF fighting costing an extra feat or two. In every way except raw damage it's otherwise better than strength-based, and the damage ought to be plenty good enough, anyway.
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>>53327464
Its all very dependant on race and god. A cleric of a good sun god would probably seek to eradicate evil with a vengeance while trying to help the needy with cheritable acts, while a cleric of an evil death god would probably be completely the opposite.
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>>53327464
What kind of Cleric, and for what god? Think of yourself as the friendly neighborhood local pastor... Or the firebrand Southern preacher, or even the megachurch money grubbing piece of shit.
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>>53326656
Base Defense and the Base Defense Bonus: A class's Base Defense represents their competency at defending themselves in combat. It is used as the base number that all other bonuses and penalties are added to when calculating a character's AC and CMD. Your Base Defense increases as you gain levels, gaining a Base Defense Bonus (BDB)

Multi-classing and Base Defense Bonus: As with most other things, you add the Base Defense Bonus of all your classes together in order to get your final BDB with one caveat. Compare the Base Defense of all your classes with each other. If they are all equal, change nothing. If they are not equal, use the highest Base Defense among all your classes, then apply a -2 modifier to it. This modifier cannot take you below the lowest Base Defense of all your classes.

Base Defense and Base Defense Bonus of Core Classes
Barbarian: 15, Full
Bard: 13, 3/4
Cleric: 12, 1/2
Druid: 12, 1/2
Fighter: 17, Full
Monk: 16, Full
Paladin: 16, Full
Ranger: 15, Full
Rogue: 16, 3/4
Sorcerer: 10, 1/2
Wizard: 10, 1/2

Armor, Shields, and other AC bonuses
Light Armor: +1 AC, +5 Max Dex
Medium Armor: +2 AC, +4 Max Dex
Heavy Armor: +3 AC, +3 Max Dex
Light Shield: +1 AC
Heavy Shield: +2 AC
Tower Shield: +3 AC
Natural and Deflection Bonuses: Stack to a maximum of +3

Creatures without class levels
If a creature has no class levels, its Base Defense is 10 and it has a 3/4 BDB growth per HD. If it gains class levels, apply the multi-classing penalty. The rules for Natural Armor and Deflection bonuses also apply.
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>>53327464
Download Inner Sea Gods from the trove. It has a section which gives suggestions and outlines for the clerics of all major faiths.
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>>53327436
Anon, this raises a question I need an answer to.

How do we make a Dudebro Frat Boy in Pathfinder, the kind with polos and boat shoes? Silksworn Occultist?
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>>53327495
My personal favorite is being a cloistered cleric friar tuck type of cleric honestly.
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>>53327477
>>53327479
Why is DSP acting like a bitch all of a sudden anyways?
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>>53327436
DELET
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>>53327536
How would you stat Cadfael?

Cleric|Investigator?
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>>53327446
Yes but you don't fucking look at /pfg/'s fucking houserules when talking about balance because /pfg/ is not the only place where pathfinder is played. If we were looking at the game through that lense then you might as well be assuming balance around gestalt combinations.

Even if you DO assume common /pfg/ houserules, TWF relies entirely on how many flat bonuses you can stack in order to make the 2-3 feats and 2x weapon cost sunken into TWF worth it over anything else you could be doing. That's not counting shit like Prodigious TWF (for Str builds) or some way to actually move and attack.

>>53327561
They're hammering away at errata, and when ANYTHING about the errata leaks out of the cracks the thread takes one look and immediately screams that everything is ruined. Not to say that the errata will be perfect, but fuck's sake at least wait until the open testing is out before you start to screech.
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>>53327573
Probably exactly that actually, maybe rogue. We can be honest and say most of them probably had rogue or investigator levels.
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>>53327508
>Creatures without class levels
>If a creature has no class levels, its Base Defense is 10 and it has a 3/4 BDB growth per HD. If it gains class levels, apply the multi-classing penalty. The rules for Natural Armor and Deflection bonuses also apply.
>Under these variant rules, creatures do not add any bonuses or penalties for their size or biology to their CMD
Forgot that part when I was copypasting
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>>53327590
You wait and see guys have waited for years to PF to not suck shit.
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>>53327389
Eh, they have a one-button local backup process now. Keep your backups up to date and you're fine.
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>>53327622
Pathfinder itself is released and it's shit. PoW and PoW:E are both out and they're not quite as shit. The SoM playtest is out and it's pretty shit. We do not actually have the PoW 1 Errata to look at and call shit, just trickling over what people are pretty sure might be something in it.
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>>53327667
I'm just saying there's a pattern here and it's reasonable to assume that the pattern will continue.
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So is Flower Court going to be a reverse harem?
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>>53327602
Some of them were even Brewmasters!
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>>53327695
>apps are being chosen by a 17 year old girl

BOY-BAND META IS GO
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>>53327719
OTOME GAME.
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>>53327508
>>53327611
I feel like late game enemies will still be ridiculous, but this seems like it generally works.
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>>53327710
Robinhood was probably straight up ranger/rogue
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>>53327719
Protag is a 17 year old girl? Since when was this found out?
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>>53327765
you can say slayer
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>>53327774
The princess in the intro is a 17-year-old girl.
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>>53327765
Ranger/Rogue is literally the Slayer!
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What the hell is it about Ironfang Invasion that brings in all the weirdos? The first two apps are reposts from the older game, there's the mega-furry and the axe-guitar self-insert, and there's still weeks before the app deadline closes for more stupid shit to show up.
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>>53327799
>>53327790
I said ranger instead of slayer because Robinhood actually got support for his pick of class
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>>53327822
That's what happens when Amber Scott writes your book.

Also, it sounds edgy.
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>>53327822
People are probably still pissed off about the last ironshill ending up as a bamboozle.

DESU the collective is probably tired of all this bamboozle bullshit so are weary about applying for a game run by a nobody and even has the unfortunate association of being part of one of espagnoll's game.
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>>53327879
I just want the game cycles to either end or fade into irrelevancy.

Go back to the old ways, when a game would be announced for a thread and then go away.
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>>53327774
>Always polite to the point of sounding apologetic
>First character was a bishy swordsman whould would have grown black wings and basically been cuter sephiroth
>Second character was an actual shipper.
>Now that theyre running a game, they are using a 17 year old girl as a DM avatar and saying "appeal to this"

Since when was it not obvious?
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>>53327508
>Cleric
>12 base
>1/2 progression
Fuck you, why does my heavy armored priest of warfare suck shit in the same armor that bob fighter wears?
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Is DHB a cute girl? Is that why she wouldn't show her hands when she baked cookies for /pfg/?
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>>53327916
Where else should a 9th level spellcaster fall?
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>>53327916
You actually get to wear armor though
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/pfg/ mostly being girls would explain a lot about the threads.
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/pfg/, decide which build I should be for my 22int wizard in Ironfang.

http://www.strawpoll.me/13000387
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>>53328047
Its true though. Most females are huge lewds.
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>>53328047
Who are the reverse traps of /pfg/?
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>>53328070
DHB, why did you think she made a reverse trap? DHB is a cute little girl who hates lewds and bakes cookies.
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>>53327916
>>53328006
>>53328021
13 with 1/2 progression is the best I can do.
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I'm having trouble figuring out how the Eternal Wand price got decided. It's 820 for a CL1 1st level spell.
My math doesn't match that.

Cl1 SL1 Spell trigger (50 charges): 750
Unlimited charges: x2 (1500)
2 charges/day: x2/5 (600)

Is this just a case of "WoTC doesn't follow their guidelines", or am I missing something that makes Eternal Wands more expensive?
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>>53328119
Why don't you use staves though anon? They have 10 charges per day and recharge
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>>53327494
Hey. Hey, you.

Sarenism is a religion of peace.
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>>53328079
>DHB's Homebrewed cookies
Damn, now I want to have some easy-bake oven cookies! Why have you done this to me anon!
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>>53328142
>Staves
>"10 charges per day"
>"recharge"

AHAHAHAHA
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>>53328142
They also have a minimum CL of 8, so they're horrifyingly expensive for any spell of 3rd level or lower.
I'm also not a caster, so I can't recharge them.
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>>53328165
Well, if something recharges on its own every day that would probably add a lot more to the cost
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>>53328142
They have 10 charges TOTAL, cost spellslots to recharge, and can only be recharged at a rate of 1/day.
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>>53328142
Each morning, when a spellcaster prepares spells or regains spell slots, he can also imbue one staff with a portion of his power so long as one or more of the spells cast by the staff is on his spell list and he is capable of casting at least one of the spells. Imbuing a staff with this power restores one charge to the staff, but the caster must forgo one prepared spell or spell slot of a level equal to the highest-level spell cast by the staff. For example, a 9th-level wizard with a staff of fire could imbue the staff with one charge per day by using up one of his 4th-level spells. A staff cannot gain more than one charge per day and a caster cannot imbue more than one staff per day.
They don't "recharge"
They can be recharged.
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>>53328200
Yes, which I covered in my math above and got a different result than the official price. So I'm trying to figure out if anybody knows why the price is so different.
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>>53328079
Hey, I bake cookies and I'm a guy!
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>>53327822
I feel like Ironfang has a ton less weirdos than the other games, even the furry doesn't seem to be all about erp.
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>>53328235
Are you sure anon? Are you sure you are sure?
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Got any advice for a glaive-wielding Inquisitor of Shelyn? First time building divine, first time inquisitor, first time reach weapon (except spiked chain tripper back in 3.5).
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>>53328319
>spiked chain tripper
so you are one of THOSE guys.

Have you tried stand still?
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>>53328339
Reread Stand Still, then swear at Paizo for not letting martials have nice things.
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>>53328319
Bladed Brush. Look up this feat. It is your friend. Because Dex + Wis are your friends.
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Ok, the Iron Fang build is coming together for maximum autism with crafting.

Here is the plan:
>Grab the extra feats option
>Racial Heritage (Dwarf)
Allows me to take dwarven FCB
>Valet Familiar
Doubles Speed
>Spend money of 4 Hirelings w/ Cooperative Crafting
Fluff these fucks as my apprentices. Each have 2 crafting skills
>Level 3 get an Arcane Builder Bonus feat
I'll have Scroll/Potion/Wondrous w/ more on the way
>Grab Skill Focus Linguistics & Orator
Because who the fuck needs spell focus


My crafting speed for wondrous items is looking to be approximately 9600gp worth of gear in an 8 hour session. 6000gp for scrolls and potions.
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>>53328319
Either get an option to treat your favored weapon as a holy symbol, or grab Bladed Brush to wield the glaive 1hand. Also, feats like Stand Still and other Reflexes/Bodyguard feats are great for reach weapons.

Remember that once you hit 5th level, stacking either Judgement/Bane (or Studied Target/Bane is you're a sanctified slayer) will be where most of your damages will come from. Other than that, be sure to pick your bonus teamwork feats smartly. For your spells it might be smart to focus mostly on utility, and maybe that one spell that lets you emulate Haste. For your skills remember that liberal use of your beefy Perception, Sense Motive, and Intimidate can allow you to handle a great many of different out-of-combat interaction, and that this can either be enhanced or supplemented with the right Domain or Inquisition.

So, what domain or Inquisition were you thinking? Also, are there any particular Archetypes that catch your eye?
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>>53328399

I'll consider it. I knew that there was something like this. I don't know if I want to go dex heavy or str heavy for combat. Alternatively, can I do some dipping into monk or the class that can give me guided weapon to see if I can leverage that. Or just get the guided weapon property too.
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>>53328432

Regarding archetypes, I'm overwhelmed by the options.

Domain, Good was looking the best for me. Being able to give a sacred bonus and apply holy onto a weapon has some real appeal as demons and devils are relatively common.
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Anything particularly useful for a ranged-combat character at 3rd level that's 75gp? I don't want to just herp it into scrolls, but that seems like the only good option since I've got weapon, armor, and tools covered.
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>>53328510
Tanglefoot bags to trap people so you can shoot them from a distance
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>>53328275
>Iron Gods
>First character is anatomically correct
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>>53328426
>Babby discovers age rules for the first time
>Somehow think this is worth any amount of attention
Wow its almost like Rory 2.0 only more retarded!
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Asking again because I'm still confused as fuck.

>GM has eldritch thing try and speak to us
>is apparently when stated an incorporeal creature with teleport at will and shit
>the party is out camping as we're trying to pass over a mountain
>I'm going hunting to get us food (playing a ranger)
>down two deer
>as I get closer the deer start to fall apart, like hunks of meat just losing cohesion
>meat and bones start strapping themselves together into a floating T posing guy
>GM has me make a fort and will save
>fail both
>go temporarily blind and deaf as all the blood vessel in my eyes/ears pop
>get just constant screaming in my brain that causes me to just roll around on the ground
>stops
>hearing and eyesight suddenly restored
>it does it again
>pass fort save this time so I watch him
>it's just a completely naked/hairless dude staring at me
>rapidly changes through different noises
>including just echoing my own scream
>I begin shouting at it
>it begins repeating what I shout faster/slower
>I get up and start backing away
>stop T posing and touches down, walks towards me
>opens it's mouth to speak
>see it has no back of throat, the mouth just kind of stops, can all see his nostrils are capped basically
>session ends with the thing following me back to camp and sitting/listing to us talk about it

The fuck was it? I can answer more questions about it/what has been happening to our part.
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>>53328283
Uhh, yes? I've got a penis and balls and they get big when I look at naked women!
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>>53328432
>>53328399

Does bladed brush mean that I can wield the glaive one-handed AND still have reach? Cause that would be cool.

>>53328510
>>53328528

Fuck that, get tangleshot arrows. Apply entangled from 60+ feet away.

Alternatively, get nets (20gp ea), splash weapons (acid, alch fire, etc.)
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>>53328539
Wait, what?
What the fuck are you talking about?
If I give you this (you), will you please stop posting this in every thread?
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>>53328426
remember to pick up Amazing Tools of Manufacture as soon as you can.
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>>53328544
It needs to die.
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>>53328339
>>53328363
>finally get around to seeing what the fuss about Stand Still is
>mfw I see the difference

holy fucking shit who thought this was a good change
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>>53328554
If I give you this (you) will you please stop posting this in every thread?
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>>53328510

Oh, and anything in the Kyonin Alchemical Archery in the Alchemist Manual.
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>>53328553
>As a move action, you can shorten your grip on the glaive, treating it as though it lacked the reach weapon property. You can adjust your grip to grant the weapon the reach property as a move action.

Yes, just not at the same time.
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>>53328572
If I give you this (you) will you please stop posting this in every thread?
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>>53328593

So, that would be an OR

Some of the allure has dropped on that, but we'll see.

It could be an easy feat to get, as weapon focus could lead easily lead into dazzling display.
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>>53328560
Shit man. I'm not gonna be the one to fucking stab him.
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>Don't want to play more games but want to make more apps
aaaaaa
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>>53327233
>>53327138
This is completely the opposite of what was being claimed, buildposter.
Anon was saying that the AC of PCs fails to scale well as a primary defense vs bestiary monsters past level 10.
Yes, it's better at blocking iteratives, but it's very hard to maintain more than a 50% success against the enemy's highest hit bonus.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fqPgj0pBGpgxPXI9lUEsipZiBKYaONFx1W-A-IO8rI0/edit#gid=0
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>>53328434
>>53328461
A UC Monk dip isn't bad for an Inquisitor, plus having Unarmed Strike available to help shore up close range from using a glaive is always nice, and adding Wis to AC is nice icing on the cake, though unless you somehow take an option to get Channel Energy and grav Crusader's Flurry, your Glaive will be useless for flurries.

As for archetypes, really few Inquisitor archetypes are "bad" persay, though you should probably avoid any that get rid of Stern Gaze or Cunning Initiative. here is a quick overview of some
>Preacher
For if you don't want to worry too much about teamwork feats, and would rather have rerolls
>Sacred Huntsmaster
For when you want a flanking buddy and/or mount, and want to make the Ranger cry
>Sanctified Slayer
If you want raw, consistent, repeatable damage, this is your archetype. Combine with either taglefoot bags or some Dirty Trick stuff, and you'll be shitting out damage
>Heretic
Do you like Skills? Do you like being an Operator? this will let you be good sneakibreaki
>Expulsionist
One of the ways to get Channel and be able to qualify for Crusader's Flurry, though you will lose out on a domain
>Ravener Hunter
Also good and either getting channel, or otherwise schmoozing from Oracles. Sadly, this triggers the catfolk anons

>>53328553
>Does bladed brush mean that I can wield the glaive one-handed AND still have reach?
Yes
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>>53327908
>Where a game would be announced and then go away

Except games just NEVER FUCKING HAPPENED.
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>>53328666
Nothing stopping you from withdrawing your app two days before close
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>>53328569
What changed with Stand Still?
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>>53327008
Idk where to ask this, but this seems like the right place. For the adventure card guild the pdf links dont have any of season 2 or 3, anybody got pdfs of these?
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>>53327822
Probably because I opened the game to roll20 randos. Sometime, you find gold in the shit. Like WWW's rando app that blew 80% of pfg out of the water.
As for the re-app, I don't really mind them cause it was made the same AP. Beside, I'd feel salty too if my character never saw the daylight cause a fucker decided to do a bamboozle.
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>>53328692
which is true, but pointless. You don't care about hits.

You care about damage. As the damage gets bigger it's less Yes/No, and more of a "how much damage do you take this round".
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>>53328705

A first level dip in UMonk could help solve the weapon focus at first level problem.

Still, it would be nice to get something like the zen archer's wis to hit and damage.
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>>53328666
Make a cute girl for Flower Court you filthy memester!
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>>53328705
>Ravener Hunter
IT SHOULD HAVE MADE INQUISITOR BE CHA-BASED REEE-It's still an amazing archetype that stacks with Sanctified Slayer, and at least half the available mysteries can be useful. Examples include Wood's circumstance bonus to attack rolls for wooden weapons longbows bitch, Battle's Heavy/Martial Proficiencies and Initiative rerolls, Flame's Bonuses to Land Speed and Minutes/Day flight.

>>53328824
If you worship Erastil, you can at least feat into Wis-to-hit. Good luck qualifying for anything else though fag.
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>>53328864

>fag

Says the guy posting this furry shit.
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Edgelord is the edgiest of the Harbinger archetypes, but what takes second place? Is it Ravenlord or Crimson Countess?
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>>53327879
FWIW, like 2hu, Espagnoll doesn't totally live up to the reputation pfg gave them. I was sweating myself when I realized my new DM was on the pfg's troll list but it has not been that bad.

With that said, I can see why people memed about his DMing style. It just doesn't press my buttons enough because I have had worse That DM.
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>>53328864
Now THATS a catfolk. Much better than anime-ass neko-ass kitsune-ass jank-ass ass-ass anime posts
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>>53328902
>literally a page from a paizo book
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>>53328824
Well, if you can somehow grab the Channel, then you can at least get Guided Hand eventually to be able to have Wis to Hit. Sadly I no not if there is anything that can help with damage

>>53328902
>wheredoyouthinkyouare.png.jpg.fingerpainting
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My IRL dm doesn't really like when any of us...do anything. Like...If we start shit, its all "oh no everything is already fine. No wars, plots, etc to be found here".

How do I explain to him that this is terribly fucking boring?
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>>53328949
Start your own war. Like just hire some bandits start raiding villages.
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>>53328949
"Dude, this is terribly fucking boring"
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>>53328926
Furries were a mistake.
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>>53328913
Raven Lord. It's quite hard to top a giant bird made of pure sadness that occasionally kills things while you sleep.
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>>53328949
Ask him to name any one good story or movie where there is no conflict or other external force causing the plot to move and make the protagonists react to the story.

>>53328972
t. butthurt kitsune weeblord
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>>53328949
Start a gang, start a gang war, easy.
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I want to eat a bucket of Belgian Chocolate ice cream.
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>>53328426
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/wondrous-items/wondrous-items/r-z/tools-amazing-tools-of-manufacture/
+4 circumstance bonus (slotless)

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/wondrous-items/wondrous-items/a-b/amulet-armillary/
+5 competence bonus (neck)

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/c/crafter-s-fortune/
+5 luck bonus (slotless, spell)

https://sites.google.com/site/pathfinderogc/magic-items/rings/ring-of-craft-magic
+ level of expended spell enhancement bonus (ring)

Anything else to add?
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>>53328926
motherfucker I do believe you have the shittiest taste in "actual catfolk". That thing looks like a goblin head with cat-patterned skin rather than an actual cat.
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>>53329022
Do it, you fat piece of shit.
t.Belgian Chocolate ice cream bucket
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>>53329034
Yeah they can be anywhere, but normally people post those anime-ass neko-ass posts is what I mean, instead of just catfolks with just catears
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>>53329049
You want me to eat you out?
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I Hope both of the RotJR groups have Fun today and tomorrow!
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>>53329034
>>53328926
>>53328864
>not going for the superior flavor of Catfolk
Do ya'll niggas even feal the magic, hear the roar?
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And mighty quest too! I hope to see some greentext about that
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>>53329054
That's mostly because the thread is full of moefags and posting anthropomorphic cats has to be done carefully to skirt around getting banned by someone flipping out at the thought of furshit.

>>53329093
I didn't grow up with thundercats, but it's so deliciously silly that I respect this flavor.
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>>53329085
Me too!
Oh lord we're all gonna die and it's gonna be all my fault
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>>53329093
Sod off, Lion-O.
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/pfg/, who are we shipping in LoBaF?
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>>53329121
Oh no! Why do you say that?
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>>53329140
Gamze x Orlan
Essa x Nobody
Shanan x Gross harpy stalker
Iolanthe x Everyone including you
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Is your character a real hero, defender of the downtrodden, protector of the innocent, guardian of those who cannot protect themselves, sentinel against the forces who wish to do unto others what they aren't currently doing to themselves or what they enjoy but nobody else does, vanguard in the battle against evil that wishes to bully all the level 1 commoners with young templates and right proper gentleman/gentlelady?

Or are you just a fraud who is in for the money?
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>>53329181
Does DHB not deserve love?
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>>53329182
My character wants to commit suicide but was forced into a deal by his mentor that he has to save a certain number of people before he's allowed to off himself.

He's fighting for a reason to die.
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>>53329182
Worse, he's a fraud into fighting to increase his own personal power to distract himself from his oneitus.
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>>53329211
Juicy pls.
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>>53328929

Yeah, I am, and I still have the capacity to know that just because it's officially canon doesn't mean that it's not furfaggotry, unlike someone. At best, you're making an argument from authority and an ad hominem attack.

>>53328933

On a forum where people where assholes attack others unsolicited and undeservingly, so I do what is natural and throw it back at them.
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>>53329182
My character is a fake villain, so technically he is a fraud who's in it for the money.

He would be a hero if he could, but doing the right thing and surviving has never been an option. Until now, when he's finally doing some good.
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>>53329258
Can you try to stop gargling shit for two seconds and pull your head out of your ass?
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>>53329258
>throw it back at them.
>says the faggot who started it
>waaagh I'm the victim!
wow, your batz are shit!
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>>53329182
He is nice guy, but I'm surrounded by frauds who is in for the money.

And sometimes I have to work alone because those nig nogs don't see profit helping some people
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>>53329286
>>53329300

Exactly what I'm talking about.
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>>53329182
No I just want to blow shit up @.@
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>>53329313
>@.@

Hold your normalfaggot sperg faggot
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>>53329347
I can't, I've been infected OwO
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>>53329312
>waaagh, the mean ol' anons are bully me!
This ain't your safespace you faggot ass nigger weeb.
>>>/dumblr/
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>>53329312
Fuck off.
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>>53329371
>>53329373

Some of you fags seem to think that it is

>literally a page from a paizo book

>wheredoyouthinkyouare.png.jpg.fingerpainting
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>>53328426
Remember you are a refugee on the run. Magic item crafting requires an "extremely controlled environment", which you likely won't have access to for a while.

Realistically, there is also the matter of procuring raw material (gold cost is only for simplifcation) cause you won't be anywhere near a town but I'll think of something to justify that.
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>>53329182
My Saturday group are neither, and appropriately we are generally not interest in saving the world at great personal risk without some benefits that could advance our personal goals. Even with each other, we iften request major favors through contracts and IOUs like real merchants (which then get cashed in for other personal arcs).

We don't even try to present ourselves as heroes, in fact. To a lot of cities, we are just traveling merchants and businessmen that are willing to play court intrigue and finesse with nobles for power and money.
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>>53329409
What are you even fucking arguing for? You got your panties in a fucking knot because someone posted a page from a paizobook now you're trying to play a fucking victim card. I can't tell if you're retarded of just shitposting. Either way you haven't even made a point besides "hurr it's furfaggotry". The fuck do you even want anyway? To repost the page with the character cropped?
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>>53329258
>>53329409
The best part is the fact that the shitty art isn't even the point of the image that was being posted, so you're sperging super hard over something totally unrelated. Here, if you're going to sperg about something at least keep it focused on a page of stuff worth pretending to be upset over.
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>>53329409
Look, are you going to make and articulate an actual point, or are you just going to shitpost and whine about being triggered because some fat neckbeard in a fursuit touched you as a child and so everytime you see bugs bunny or a khajiit you have to start autistically screeching at the top of your lungs?

Or are you just fishing for (You)s to fill the sad void in your life because you're a NEET with no friends or aspirations?
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>>53329505

Blow the shit out of them from beyond the treeline, perhaps?
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>>53329505
I think you've forgotten to tell us what you need advice on.
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>enemy set up camp in a strategically advantageous position
>party gets super fucking buttmad about how it's 'not fair'

When did players get so fucking entitled that not just handing them the badguy on a silver platter, spreading his ass cheeks and going 'please don't violate me adventurers', was cause for getting pissed.

Seriously, fuck these guys. They act like the entire world should cater to their shit.
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>>53329505
>on a hill
Star fires around the hill, then let thermodynamics do the rest. You can't escape fire uphill. Plus, the smoke will help obscure you guys potentially setting up a siege weapon or army or other things to dick the enemy over

Easy.
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>>53329505

Do they have a source of water? If not, besiege them.
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Level 20 Musket Master in a Taiwanese wuxia setting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FsQnuxlkag
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>>53329611
>implying that's not a gunsmoke mystic
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>>53329568
>>53329550
>>53329532
>>53329528
Sorry, I fucked up typing my post and hit enter too soon. Anyway:

My group is going up against an orc camp on a hill. Their idea was to make a war wagon which they spent several days constructing. It was very large and they squeezed quite a few people into it. They had +8 AC from arrow slits and apparently also had improved evasion due to this. The battle went a bit like this:

>ride out of woods into plains firing crossbow bolts at orcs wandering around camp
>take out about 10 orcs in the opening volley
>I decide that +5 orcs appear with longbows to fire back each turn
>before long there are 50 orcs shooting at them
>only hit on 20 because of arrow slits but at least they are composite bows
>kineticist in group blasts hill giant to death before it can throw rocks (which don't deal shit for damage anyway)
>worg riders come out after a few rounds, about 20 of them, they lance-charge the horses and now the cart is immobilized
>summoner is riding a fell-drake-type eidolon, casts enlarge on himself and eidolon and dive bombs worgs
>before long half the worgs are dead, as are about 50 orcs
>a lot of the city guards are wounded
>they are now pinned down
>onager starts wheeling up from top of hill, summoner spots it and flies over to take out crew
>in the meantime, level 8 orc sorcerer dimension-doors to wagon hoping to slide a fireball in there and roast everyone
>takes shitload of damage from kineticist
>fires fireball, misses arrow slit
>does fuck-all damage to wagon and fuck-all damage to people inside due to improved evasion cover bullshit
>dimension doors away, drinks potion
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So most of the party is inside the wagon, most of the guards are dead (I was rolling dice to see who was hit by arrows randomly), and they are pinned down, but they can just keep crossbowing the worg riders so they are falling back. They need a good way to crack open the wagon but fireball doesn't do shit. I've got an 8th level orc sorcerer and 7th level orc cleric to work with here. I am thinking the sorcerer will heal up a bit and try to take out the summoner's eidolon, maybe hold-person the summoner but he has a good will save. In the meantime the orcs are running out of arrows so they need to quit the saturation fire. The kineticist is the main damage dealer of the party and is currently trapped on the roof of the wagon, he might be the easiest target as he isn't inside getting cover. I am just trying to figure out how to take out this wagon and end this insanity.

Also I am fully aware the sorcerer's actions were not only reckless but retarded. He could have fireballed from the top of the hill and been out of range or even sight of the guards and kineticist but he wanted to get the fireball inside, he just fucked up his ranged touch attack.

Also i don't want to kill the party here but they fucked up big time and I don't want to just let it go like I usually do and asspull NPC stupidity to let them out of it.
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>>53329304
Andrik pls.
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>>53329692
>>53329708
>they fucked up big time
it looks like, no, they didn't fuck up at all. That is a brilliant and creative plan.

Why end the insanity? Ride with it! EMBRACE IT!

God dam this is me: >>53328949 and I would give so much to be doing what your players are doing.

Let them get away, but OH NO! the surviving orcs have learned the ways of the WAR WAGON and start buiding their own, but with 1000% more MAD MAX involved.

This could be so cool dude.
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How does one go about updating the pastebin? Just make a new one with your edits and be the one to post the next thread? I have realized my little section is missing some things.
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>>53329708

Alchemist fire? Flask of oil prepped to be treated like a poor man's alch fire? If you light it on fire, that's a great way of scaring the PCs to get out without outright killing them. Have the fire spread over a few turns.

Probably a single volley would be enough to frighten them in the first place.
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>>53329793

Oh, or warp wood. If it is made out of other things, heat metal, stoneshape, etc.

To get close, grab a smokestick, break it, and carry it, or have a series of smokesticks to provide cover.

Of course, are the enemies smart enough to realize these options?
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>>53329793
It doesn't deal shit to the wagon, though. It has like 100 hp and most energy damage is halved, and has hardness 10. Hence the fireball, or the onager / ballista. However the summoner didn't destroy the ballista, only the crew, so once he is dead the party is pretty much fucked as they can just rain stones on the wagon until everyone is dead, or until they get out of an run.

>>53329776
The orcs can't build a wagon while under attack though. Even with -2s and -4s to hit for range they could just saturate the entire orc camp with arrows until most of them are dead. There are still about 150 orcs left though. Once the wagon is broken open, they are going to swarm the PCs and kill anyone who can't run or fly away.
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>>53329839

>Energy attacks: Energy attacks deal half damage to most objects. Divide the damage by 2 before applying the object's hardness. Some energy types might be particularly effective against certain objects, subject to GM discretion. For example, fire might do full damage against parchment, cloth, and other objects that burn easily. Sonic might do full damage against glass and crystal objects.
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>>53329839
>The orcs can't build a wagon while under attack though. Even with -2s and -4s to hit for range they could just saturate the entire orc camp with arrows until most of them are dead. There are still about 150 orcs left though. Once the wagon is broken open, they are going to swarm the PCs and kill anyone who can't run or fly away.
So the orcs do what non-stupid armies do when they face a tactical disadvantage: they retreat and scatter. Have them re-group further away and come back next week with WAAAA wagons.

maybe have a few throw tanglefoot bags at the thing's wheels to slow it down so the others can escape.
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So, the over-arching theme of the current campaign I'm in seems to be that a feylord/god is plagued with nightmares, and their followers have become homicidal maniacs because of this. Suspicions are, the god has gone mad as well. My character has strong personal motivations to un-mad the god.

Could you guys suggest some cool ways I could go about this that I could go on to pursue or even suggest to my GM?
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>>53329881
It's covered in metal plates, though. And even without that, it will still take like 10 fireballs to take the thing out. I could rule "lmao nah" but then they will argue and I want to avoid that shit.

>>53329886
They can't get close enough to throw anything without getting mowed down by 15 arrow attacks per round. Although that is much fewer now. Good ideas though. They may have to retreat but I really want to avoid that.
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>>53329975

I would retreat and regroup at that point, if the orcs are intelligent enough.

Otherwise, shape metal/warp metal, whatever to peel off the plates. Then approach with cover of the night, lob a bunch of oil, then drop some fire on them.
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http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/s/spiked-pit
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/f/final-sacrifice/
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/d/deeper-darkness/
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Guess what, anon?

It's time for some mostly non-lewd PLD greentext!

Gather round, anyone who cares, for Cierra's Story

>apprentice to two married nightwalkers, git gud at monsterhunter
>hasubando's arm gets right fucked up
>goes looking for healing, is incurable, is handed a few pages out a tome instead
>it lets him eat souls to steal their str scores
>well that's not ominous
>definitely not something to tell your loving wife and starry-eyed young apprentice about amirite
>surprise gets corrupted and possessed by a horror of the night
>waifu goes after him to make sure he doesn't kill everyone
>sends cierra to track down the mysterious benefactor offering soulstealer incantations at affordable prices low interest and no credit check
>spend six to eight weeks on the road chasing gossip and slowly piecing together shit about tomes
>spoilers: they are bad
>from her village of Wicholm, snug and comfy among the Dragon Backs, to the high seat of Throne, and now on the way to Mar's College in Luca
>heard about some spooky weirdo hauling a spooky wagon full of spooky monster
>find spooky weirdo
>not that spooky actually
>knight dude named jericho
>somehow killed this giant fucking octothing
>for some reason religious oils won't stop pouring out of its rotting corpse
>well that's gross
>he's enrolling it in the College to see if they knew why
>cool guy who by total coincidence was minor buds with hasubando
>swap stories about him for a while
>fall asleep
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>>53330245
BUTT WAIT, THERE'S MORE!
>wake up to giant spider stomping up the road
>ace knowledge check: correction, giant spider ROBOT
>also it's CR8 so we are definitely not capable of taking this on
>and wait, what's that sound?
>a pack of drakes fleeing it in feral terror
>okay so let's
>hide
>nope, get found
>split up
>it chases jericho
>take a few potshots at it with my sweet homemade magitech rifle
>btw did i mention i'm MLG pro alchemist
>tangleshots for days
>miss
>probably didnt do enough 720
>spider smashes off into the distance
>welp guess i'll head for the city and find help
>whoops forgot about the drakes
>they did not forgot about cierra
>the threat is gone and now theyve got other ideas
>engage in sniper combat
>utterly destroy one drake
>badly wound others
>discover drakes have pounce and get KOed the fuck out before I can take them
>you know this part
>did not shit self
>i have the sphincter of fucking wolverine remember
>wake up in a fucking potato sack on the floor
>some dickweed is eating the FUCK out of a pear
>somehow i already hate him
>blonde beauty laying hands on me
>ifyouknowwhatimean
>no but really shes purging the taint
>also apparently i live here now
>well ok then
>SOLO STORY: END
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>>53330245
[Angry drake noises]
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>>53330277
[Angry_Drake_Noises]
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>>53330352
>>53330357
outstanding ERP from Vult again

atleast its not past tense
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>>53330357
>>53330352
Drakemind
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So what's your process for creating a new character?
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/pfg/, how would you make a dex-punchgirl noble?
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>>53330277
>did not shit self
Don't bother trying to disprove that lie, it's already canon. Just ignore it and hopefully the meme will grow stale.
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>>53330393
Find build I want to make

Make it retarded

Build a personality

cry until i find a picture

cry some more when i dislike it and change it
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>>53330394
Unarmed strike doesn't necessarily mean punches.
Go for kicks only.

For bonus, add a long ballgown dress.
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>>53330393
If I'm not already inspired to a specific character type by the campaign description, I look for good character art and go from there.

Or if I'm feeling lazy, I think of a build I've been wanting to try and back-build it into the campaign.
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>>53330393
I learn about the adventure first, then I try to come up with an individual who would have a reason o be there, and then fill in all te race and class stuff from there.
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>>53330394
Isn't the Brawler iconic a punchgirl noble?
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>>53330421
What if they throw people too though?
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>>53330411

Maybe we could help you find a picture you'd like, so you won't have to cry?
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>>53330393
Start with some concept/gimmick/hook
Figure out how to represent that mechanically
Use that to build out more of the background/personality/etc
Use that to finish the mechanical side and any final touches

Basically work fluff and mechanics in tandem based on some idea hook.
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>>53330435
Yes. With a pixie cut.
She'd be top waifu material if she wasn't drawn by Wayne Reynolds and written by Paizo devs.
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>>53330452
I'm picky as shit so I tend to just search a fuckton
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>>53330277
>>no but really shes purging the taint

L-lewd!
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>>53329743
>condemned souls inside of a magical guillotine
>souls of people that have been unfairly are there
>bring it to the magitower and they have no clue how to dispel the enchantment
>have to break it
>Everyone goes like "lol leave it there, we can't sell it and fuck those people its not like they are going to pay us to release then"
>NOT TODAY MOTHERFUCKERS
>ask the mages to prepare a room so I can destroy the item without harming anyone
>destroy it
>DM was kind enough to give me an extra enchant to my axe due to my deed
>all my group gets salty because they didn't get anything

Fucking jews.
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>>53330394
Slayer, take Ranger Combat Feat Talents, unarmed, and possibly VMC monk. Or Unchained Monk Invested Regent.
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>>53330393
I look at the game, try to find art that suits it, and the rest is pieced together like a puzzle.
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>>53330517
>Invested Regent
>5 attribute dependent
Man, how would you even allocate your scores for a FAD regent under 25pb?
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Trying to come up with nick names for my character. The idea is he's a massive racist fuck against goblinoids because he lived through/fought in the goblinblood wars.

Shit like this is what I mean:
>Narder "Don't trust the Gob" Guiles
>Narder "Burn the Bugbears" Guiles
etc.

However I'm shit at this.
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>>53330510

What a bunch of selfish sallies.
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>>53330393
>roleplay concept
>see if the build won't be a burden ingame
>pure text description of the character
>watch some movies for more ideas
>write a BG
>if I like the character too much, I commission the art to my favorite artist.
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>>53330517
I meant more from a character point and less of a build point.
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>>53330552
Narder "Horse-Dog" Guiles.
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>>53330552
>>53330570
Narder "Gut the Goblin" Guiles
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>>53330552

>Narder "Kills Gobs Harder" Guiles
>"Hit Gobs In The" Narder Guiles
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>>53330552
Narder "Will be forgivin when no gobs are living" Guiles
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>>53330393
>Find a shallow gimmicky concept that sounds fun (pokemon master, giant shield guy, grappling hook master, ect.)
>Find mehanics that facilitate the core abilities of the character, andif i can find none, then i talk to the GM about homebrewing them
>Identify the skills and abilities that synergies with my core abilities and narrow them down for optimization
>Bounce ideads off the GM to add some depth to the character
>Spend the resources left over from buying core mechanics and basic optimization on fluff powers and skills

that is about the whole process
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>>53330552
Narder "Bugbear Holocaust" Guiles.
Narder "Goblin Grave Digger" Guiles
Narder "Greenskin?Kill on sight" Guiles
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>>53330552
>Narder"Will be forgiven when no gobbos are livin" Guiles
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>>53330552
Narder "The Solution for Goblin Pollution" Guiles
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>>53329423
What are your thoughts on religion traits - do you have to actually follow the respective god for a specific religion trait?
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For a Martial with flight freely available to them, is this feat worth it?

Death From Above-
You allow gravity to add extra force to your charges.

Benefit: Whenever you charge an opponent from higher ground, or from above while flying, you gain a +5 bonus on attack rolls in place of the bonuses from charging and being on higher ground.
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>>53330687
By RAW, I believe so. This is what makes them distinct from Faith traits, which only are fluffed as being vaguely religious.
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>>53330552
>>53330570
>>53330575
>>53330631
You're bringing him?
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>>53330510
Was your party full of dwarves?
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>>53329182
She fights to save the city she loves so much, the city that she can hear in-pain and in-need of as much assistance as possible!
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>>53330720
Higher ground is +1
Charging is +2

So it's just a '+2 to attack in specific circumstances'
It's not bad for a pounce build maybe, but not something I'd take too often.
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>>53330552
Narder "Gobs lose their nobs" Guiles
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>>53329611
Oh shit is season 2 already out or is this some preview?
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>>53330545
Play a Scaled Fist as well, so you completely drop WIS from the equation and work only off of CHA. Your Will save might suck, though.
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>>53330730
No dwarves.

It's an Elan, a Gnoll, a Goblin and a Kitsune.
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/pfg/ should I apply to ironfang with a witch or wizard? I can't decide.

I'm leaning wizard at the moment.
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BLINGMAKER
GREENTEXT
WHEN???
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What's a fun build you never got to play /PFG/!?

I really don't need this wave of crippling self doubt before work
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>>53330786
I, too, am rather curious.
Something seems to have come up to prevent its posting.
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>>53330779
Another guy is posting with a wizard, consider one too, hopefully the party ends up full wizards only
>>53330799
Robot ascetic monk with the vow of poverty from 3.5. I have not given up hope
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>High Guardian doesn't stack with Myrmidon
Phooey.
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>>53330277
>i have the sphincter of fucking wolverine
kek
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>>53330799
Swashbuckler into Shadowdancer. I know it would be horrendously underpowered, but it just sounds like fun.
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How's this for a low level magic item?

+1 sling with which you can three times per day do a touch attack for 1d6 cold and STR mod of bludgeoning damage as a full round action that provokes an attack of opportunity when snow is available to the user, It also can use snow as bullets and can be reloaded as a swift action while still provoking an attack of opportunity as long as you are in a cold environment (no snow required for this part of the item).

How much would this cost?
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>>53330799
>/PFG/
Get out, normie.
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>>53331020
Its kind of shitty, unless the whole campaign is in the cold, I would probably price it as like half an enhancement, so like 2k-something
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>>53331049
The whole campaign is in the cold.
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>>53331038
Silly anon Normie's don't get depressed! That's a pfg staple!
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>>53330988
>Swashbuckler
>overpowered
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>>53331091
Learn to read, faggot.
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>>53331091
anon...
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>>53331069
No, but they talk about it a lot, and who capitalizes general or board names? Normies, that's who.
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>>53331120
A normie's just a newfag you haven't forced to read Rory's logs.
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>>53331114
>>53331113
Whelp, I guess its time to stop posting and get dinner so I can regain my ability to engrish gud
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>>53330835
Did the game implode?
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>>53330552
If they had Gnolls on their side you could have been Narder "Cull the Gnolls" Guiles.
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Thoughts on the Luckbringer?

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/3rd-party-classes/rite-publishing/luckbringer/
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I want to create a paladin type with PoW that just smites evil and. Warder with OD and ZS seems the most apt for that but do any other builds work too? Preferably with a Silver crane focus
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Man, I always hate the beginning of the character backstory/personality part of app-making. It takes me way too long to get the ball rolling after getting the mechanical choices done.
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How do I make my Stalker (Brutal Slayer) get full BAB?
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>>53331598
>>
>looking for tomboy princess art
>every short hair girl in a dress looks like a trap
you've ruined me, pfg.
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>>53330751
Oh, no. It's actually a different series done by puppeteers who previously worked on the show that inspired Urobuchi.

So there was Pili (which happens to mean Thunderbolt) the original, this particular show that was done by an offshoot, and then Thunderbolt Fantasy which is a crossover between Urobuchi and the Pili team.
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>>53331597
Want my advice? Of course you do, I've got good advice.

See above, that's what you want to do. At the start of your backstory, add a 1-3 sentence paragraph at the very start which sets the scene. It could be something as simple as a quote from an in-universe author that resonates with your character, or it could be a classical "ode to the muse" that types such as Shakespeare and Virgil would do which offers the vaguest idea on if your story is a sad one, or a hopeful one.

This is just as useful for you as it is for the reader, since it gets you in the zone!
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>>53331647
You could try a different approach.
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>>53331762
Reaction tech chase weeb kitsunes all day
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>>53331762
Maybe I'll just give up on the tomboy part.
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I want to make a twink dexfag monk, but there's no art that fits the idea.
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>>53331610
I don't get it.

>>53331647
Show us some of the art you're thinking real hard on using!
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>>53331779
She's saying nothing because there's nothing you can do
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>>53331778
Yes there is, you are just looking in the wrong place.
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>>53331775
As much as it helps, you don't need short-hair to be a tomboy.
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>>53331795
Where should I look, then?
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>>53331801
I might consider that. I'm just at a bit of a loss on how to make the character a "character", you know?
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>>53331815
Your best bet is wuxia film and wushu art. Games like Age of Wushu had a lot of them. (also anime art I guess)
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>>53327372

No thanks!

Also, self-shilling here.

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/77276/pilgrimage-to-the-demonlands

Come apply, don't be shy!
>>
What are some Golarion bed-time stories?
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>>53332033
Peter and the Owlbear
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>>53332033
If there's a Russian fairy tale, it's probably found its way into Golarion via Irrisen.
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So with EotFC's guaranteed use of applied characters, how long do you think it'll take for the apps to include a full roster of our favorite meme players?
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>>53332128
Disk's already there. I imagine Captain Slow's app will be up tomorrow and Sappy will follow a few days later.
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>>53332128
>Guaranteed use of applied characters
Is this what it feels like to finally, truly know that we're all gonna make it?
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>>53332160
>>53332128

Let's be honest with ourselves here, what characters do we want to see them apply with?
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>>53332173
Shake things up a bit, have Slow apply with a young marriageable noble and Sappy apply with a mature widow filled with haunting regret.
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Is it true that Pathfinder is completely compatible with 3.5 content? I just found my Forgotten Realms and Warcraft campaign setting books that were made for 3rd Edition.
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>>53332173
>Slow
Anything but another ASoIaF guy.
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>>53330393
Find class/abilities that would be interesting in the setting/scenario.

Figure out basics of build

Use said basics to formulate backstory and figure out personality

once character is created THEN I can figure out where to go from there build-wise, generally in conjunction with whatever the party actually ends up being
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>>53332203
no, but backporting stuff is easy
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/pfg/ I need opinions about magic items in my setting:

>magic-mart shops are cancerous and do not exist
>the reason for this is that many items are far too expensive to be realistically kept in a store's inventory for any amount of time
>the best you're going to find is scribes, apothecaries, etc. who carry cheap and consumable items, possible cheaper noncombat common magic items like bags of holding
>if you want something in particular you have three real options
>craft it yourself
>find a skilled artisan to make it for you on commission
>go to a large city and attend a borger market
>borger markets pop up in large cities and consist of various groups trying to sell magic items in essentially a flea market style
>you'll have mercenaries, tomb divers, explorers, etc. go there and try and sell off what they don't need
>because often finding buyers for magic items in difficult attending borger markets to sell off loot is common for parties
>if you're not going to a borger market finding a buying to offload expensive magic items on often takes gathering information, seeking out patrons, etc. (sometimes governmental bodies buy up magic items for their armories)
>borger markets are full of bartering/trading/etc. since there is often no real regulation
>crafting it yourself/finding someone to craft it will get you exactly what you want, but will take time/energy
>going to a borger market will get you instant gratification, but often you need to make due with an item that is only mostly what you were looking for, and you can come out of it not finding what you wanted at all
>combat magic items, like magic swords, wands, etc. are often tightly regulated by local lords/governments
>this means often either whose who make them or those who buy them need to get a license
>in areas where they are regulated often both legal and illegal borger markets crop up, legal ones being inspected that they're not selling contraband
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What's the deal with Dragons 2? They had a bad session a few weeks ago and it's been silent since then. No greentext, no nothing.
>>
>>53332203

There's a few things that need to be addressed-CMB/CMD, some of the condensed skills, stuff like that.
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>>53332173
>>53332128
DHB is displaying interest, what do you guys want him to apply with he's asking vigilante questions as well.
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>>53332246

I heard things were really tense a while back from one of the players, but nothing now.

I'm too afraid to ask.
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>>53332203
>completely compatible

half-right

>compatible

more right.

Pathfinder is compatible with 3.5e and 3.0e content, but you need to do some conversions for stuff.

>>53332246
>>53332276

It's mostly not been anything exciting. The "bad session" was only two weeks ago, and the latest session can be summarized as "Party finds dungeon with last target in it after turning in Crazy Hassan the cursed magic item salesman." The Tension mentioned has been defused, anyhow.
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>>53332246
Things are fine, they're probably just taking advantage of the PLD group trying to suck all the air out of the general to avoid the attention of the haters.
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>>53332276
>>53332304
What's the "bad session"?
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>>53332243
To be honest, it just sounds like you want to include a magic flea market. The options you have are fine, and the flea market provides plenty of RP opportunities.
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Can someone tell me if there's any 2h polearms that are finesseable, preferably Martial and not Exotic, besides the Elven Branch Spear and Naginata?
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>>53332191
>Sappy apply with a mature widow filled with haunting regret
That is frighteningly close to the idea I'm rolling around in my brain right now.
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>>53332324
Mainly what I want out of it are the following:
>magic flea markets
Both on the seller and buyer side this is fun
>illegal magic item markets
Because finding contraband and going to hole in the wall merchants selling illegal arms is cool
>magic artisans
Because going to the same magical blacksmith to keep getting your sword upgraded is cool

All three of these are cool in my opinion.

The only one I've seen a lot of backlash on was the governments trying to regulate stuff. I had a player get really angry at the concept of a government making certain items illegal.
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>>53332267
DHB just asked if he could use his own home-brew for martial classes.
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>>53332243
You can have the party wizard join a wizard club. Where they go in to show off their sick magicks and magic items for trade. Like a gunclub.

Otherwise people like dragons. Maybe a dragon cave shop because some dragon wants to liquidate some magic items.
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>>53332373
>I had a player get really angry at the concept of a government making certain items illegal
That's literally what governments have a right to do. Imagine all the horrible items a single necromancer leaves behind, now multiply that by cults and WIZARDS.
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>>53332373
Governments making certain items illegal is well within their rights, it's what every country in real life does and you can be damned certain Candles of Invocation are banned throughout any setting a DM of sense makes.
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>>53332384
He always does.
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You people want greentexts? Or storytime?
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>>53332453
Sure, but you may prefer to wait until the next thread, since this one is in free fall
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>>53332323
Well, from what I heard, it mostly involved not fading-to-black by Sweags. Mei and Rory got hit by enchantment spells REALLY hard, and the rest of the party somewhat less so. The two boys were used as toys by an NPC before the rest of the party snapped out of it and captured him.
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>>53332348
please respond
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>>53332453
Sure, as long as it doesn't imply scat.
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>>53332469
I don't think the naginata even is finesse-able, unless there's been an errata. You'd need Polearm Dancer or Bladed Brush to make any of them finesse weapons.
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>>53332473
Miasma tainted cum that's so rotten with evil that it actually turns black is 'filth' anon. Stop intentionally mis-reading things!

>>53332463
The question was between the two formats/interpretations
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>>53332410
There is literally nothing wrong with being a necromancer.
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>>53332497
You raise the bodies of the dead who are laid to rest which messes with their souls on the way to their judgement
>But with if you get their consent tho :^J
Then I guess you aight
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>>53332445
>>53332410
Yeah, some of the major shit most goverments ban are:
>mind control spell completion items
Charm person, suggestion, dominate, etc. Scrolls and wands of this shit are often outlawed.
>Raise dead
Anything that creates undead is similarly outlawed in most places. The undead in the setting hunt down/destroy life when uncontrolled.
>Big attack spells (fireball wands as an example)
Anything that is considered for more then 'self defense' is outlawed. You can have a wand of scorching ray for self defense. When you're lobbing fireballs it's no longer self defense but terrorism.

>>53332408
People who can actually make magic items are pretty uncommon. I bumped up craft wondrous to 5th level and divided it up into separate different feats (because craft wondrous could make too much stuff as is). So often a group will form around just a few actual magic craftsman at its center with others supporting them with material acquisition, assistants, etc.

Often people who can make magic items are employed by the government.
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>>53332352
Can't be too tragic, this is supposed to be Arthurian legend, not Game of Thrones.
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>>53332465
My understanding was that fucking the guy was their idea in the first place.
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>>53332492
Just be more careful with descriptions next time you plan to air your logs, alright? I ain't about to kinkshame, but the thread will jump on fucking anything if it looks uniquely bad.
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>>53332508
What actually IS the big hubbub about Necromancy in Golarion, because last I checked you aren't using the body's soul as fuel, just negative (admittedly caustic entropy) energy.

Sure there's the Whispering Way and 99% of Necromancers being evil, but what's the in-game reason for so many people hating it... Besides those two?
>>
>>53332513
I'd say Raise Dead should be license items, since they're rather potent and useful for an army mage.
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>>53332508
Necromancy doesn't interfere with the Soul unless it specifically notes it as doing so.

There's nothing stopping a dude whose old bones are now animated from being revived other than his corpse currently being in use.
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>>53332541
The thread is memeing a literal joke as evidence of bad RP
>>
>>53332545
>entropic energy

Actually, Negative isn't entropic. It's just the opposite of Positive. It can work in the same ways, it just doesn't play nice with Positive. Like matter and antimatter.
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>>53332545
Well those are pretty good reasons, along with the whole 'desecrating the dead' thing. Also, necromancers who lose control of the dead don't necessarily dismiss those dead when they get rekt, and high necromancers can create things like Wraiths who create more of themselves.
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>>53332546
Oh I mean for private citizens. Whether a country's military employs undead varies hugely. As well undead are sometimes used for labor.

Undead however are fucking dangerous conceptually because without someone controlling them they just wander until they find something alive then kill it and continue. Most of the time you don't want something like that just up and walking around.
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>>53332513
I'd say you should give the party some leeway. As long as they have the item cost, they can roll for getting the items and schematics. Have them roll to increase/decrease the cost of magic items based on circumstances. Maybe someone is liquidating some item they need and they can get it cheap, or maybe another piece has become a hot commodity for unrelated reasons.
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>>53332513
Yeah, but powerful wizards, even on a low magic setting, unless they conanically drain each other's magic or something, they end up forming social clubs. Like wizard clubs. Wizard only type of deal.

But if you want to get illegal magic items, you can probably find a dragon. A lot of them make their own magic items too.
>>53332545
Because on the way to their judgement, the soul is damaged. Along with that, undead creatures that aren't intelligent often search out living creatures to destroy, as its in the nature of negative energy to destroy positive aligned things.
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>>53332524
Nah, the plan was for the two to get the guy alone, then bag him. That plan went awry when the enchantment spells came out, Mei happening to be a rather feminine boy, Rory ending up as a twink, which was required in order to get close to him. It was a weird session.
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>>53332524
>>53332465
The enchantment magic was a retcon. Originally it was... I don't know what. Something.
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>>53332545
So something that naturally occurs in golarion is an Undead Uprising. Where the dead will spontaneously raise and try and destroy the living.

It goes like this:
Corpses in mass graves raise as zombies -> Zombies kill a bunch of people who raise as zombies -> Some of the bodies start raising as skeletons and non-humanoid/older dead begin raising -> Freewilled undead while ghouls and ghasts start raising and leading the other undead -> Barrier between the prime and the shadow plane begins to break fown and shadows/wraiths/ghosts appear -> Area turns into a necropolis under the effects of the Unhallowed spell -> Undead from all over begin being drawn to the new necropolis, particularly intelligent -> Heroes who die trying to destroy the necropolis raise as undead generals -> If left unchecked an actual hole to the shadow plane will rip open and let corporeal extraplanar undead through

It's fucking nasty because mass graves will sometimes naturally cause apocalypse scenarios.
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>>53332589
I mean yeah, sometimes they get lucky and sometimes they don't. It's the luck of the draw. Rarely items are sold for exactly market price and can be both above and below depending on circumstance.

>>53332594
I mean yeah, people form social clubs, I'm not sure what your point is.

>But if you want to get illegal magic items, you can probably find a dragon. A lot of them make their own magic items too.
Wouldn't be a dragon in my setting at least. Dragons are literally incarnations of greed/pride/etc. Liquidating magic items would be against their nature entirely. You just get it like you would get any other contraband, under the table.
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>>53332384
>>53332450
How big of a fucking faggot do you have to be to do this shit?
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>>53332645
>Something.
poor judgement?
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>>53332191
How marriageable we talking, senpai? Some gentle-hearted second son with clear Saintly vibes, or a young buck who needs an experienced woman to quench his fire?
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>>53332693
I think the WIZARD club guy means you should use them as a group in your setting that can provide magic items.

Befriending them opens up more inventory, reduced prices, and even quests for better items.
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>>53332722
The latter, of course.
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>>53332770
I already mentioned that's a thing. People gather together around artisans and organizations form around people who can make magic items. They aren't exclusively wizards because a lot more people than wizards can make magic items. Befriending organizations based around making magic items makes it easier to buy magic items, yes.
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>>53330461
Her story is pretty good.
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>>53332800
I was just inferring what the other guy meant.

Otherwise, it's fine. Going with the flea market route makes it easier for you to control the power curve. I'd say take some notes from other /pfg/ games and have them make a list of magic items they want, then roll for those items when they go shopping. Write it off as them asking around and some merchants keeping an ear for what might become the next hot magic item.
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>>53332879

>>53332879

>>53332879
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>>53332883
>page 6
>not even a fucking question
god fucking damn you
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>>53332128
I'm trying to figure out an inoffensive way to apply a character that's really interesting but has no chance of getting in.
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>>53332933
Just write it flat out on the application
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>>53332925
I had a new general ready for page 8 and even remembered to update the pastebin, but I guess earlyposting wins every time.
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>>53332944
I would much rather offend a DM with a weak app than insincerity. The insincerity stays secret.
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>>53332925
>>53332991
We could just refuse to use it.
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>>53332933
Make an application with availability that's incompatible with most games (ie. not in American prime time).
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>>53333030
I for one think the posting should stay in this thread until it falls off

We have built-in archival nowadays
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>>53333030
We would if we were smart, but /pfg/ falls for early threads all the time. There's already a "I don't understand why necromancy is considered evil in golarion (where necromancy is canonically evil by definition)?" post to bait replies.
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