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First for the Alpha Guys

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>>53323388
>You can actually hit them with your sword

feels good man

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So when are we getting news about Sisters of Battles.

At least I can die knowing Marines got squated first

>>53323419
tau blown the fuck out

>>53323420
>At least I can die knowing Marines got squated first
you mean the primaris dudes?
It's just GW getting on the truescale hype train.

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Xth for the ban-evading DAfag chinaman is back already and starting his daily meltdown ALREADY, just because someone mentioned the genestealer grill

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>>53323448
Oh boy here we go

>>53323420
Are Sister players just living to bait? Sisters basically are squatted in crunch, and will soon be so in fluff. At least Manlet Marines will have their own codex and models that aren't metal which is a lot more than you can say.

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>>53323420
>Space Marines
>Squatted
>Not getting two entirely plastic ranges before Sisters even get a plastic troop squad

>>53323471
Why? What is it about GSCB that people get so triggered?

>>53323459
They are squated in the sense that they'll will not get new models. Only Primaris.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/19/warhammer-40000-faction-focus-imperial-knights/

>>53323459
Rule-wise there is zero reason to take primarines so far, specially now that wound allocation means you can ensure your important models always die last.

Threadly reminder that DAs are gays.
Which is fine and all. I mean we're all faggots in some way.

Also: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/19/warhammer-40000-faction-focus-imperial-knights/

>>53323489
>and will soon be so in fluff
nah there were tons of sisters at the battle of cadia

it's honestly mad how much GW mentions them in fluff but neglects them in everything else

>>53323498
No idea. But the faggot chink got trigger hard by it at the end of the last thread.

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>>53323514
What household is that it's a really nice a scheme

>>53323498
That camwhores and thirsty fetishists get more attention than their latest meme.

>>53323514
>>53323520
>T 8
>3+ save
>24 wounds
>moves 12
>gets D6 shots vs units with 5 or more models at str 9 ap -4
>does flat 6 wounds per hit in CC
jesus fucking christ

Are IK 40ks Brettonians?

>>53323520
>Knights have 3+ save.
>Worst than Riptide
>Same as Marine.
Fucking XD

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Is there any explanation why some armies have an unhealthy fetish for hazard stripes and checkered patterns?
Most notably the Iron Warriors, Imperial Guard with their banners and whatnot, and Orks on most of their shit?

I think even some Space Marines chapters are guilty as well, especially with the fact that some go out of their way to have quartered color schemes of all things.

>>53323498
I don't think it's GSCB so much as the DA autist gets triggered by fucking anything. He's in a constant state of nuclear ass-damage.

>>53323514
>The canny Knights general will need to be wary of enemy models with multiple D6 damage melee attacks such as Trygons,

Hopefully this will stop at least some of the endless whining from Nid players.

>remove all xenos
>remove all Imperium forces and Chaos

Which do you choose?

>>53323568
>24 wounds

>>53323585
the former
let's make it a 1v1

>>53323546
I like the Cygnar (blue and gold) and the classic red with black and yellow hazard stripes

>>53323582
Fuck's sake. If this continues I'll have to get my fun actually playing my nid army.

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Welp...
Glad I've no active Eldar players in my group.

>>53323520
Agreed, I'm still looking forward to that Marvel/Disney homoerotic Dark Angels fujomovie.

>>53323420
>marines
>squatted
>when our basic troops will all eventually be upgraded to have 2 wounds
SoB players are desperate I see. Primaris marines are an add-on, not a squatting.
Now, the real question is does the primaris process just add a wound or double them?
Because if it's the latter, does that mean we may see 8 wound GK terminators. Because the world may not be ready for a monstrous unit with 40 wounds on a 5 man squad.

>>53323600
Anon that wouldnt work and you know it.

>>53323585
this is a shit question. It wouldn't be 40k with the Imperium and Chaos but I play Xenos.

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This drop pod walks up to you and door-slaps your farseers ass

What do

>>53323620
/hhg/ is much nicer than this place.

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>>53323546

>still havent done Orks
>still havent done Manletarines
>still havent done Nids
>still havent done Crons
>still havent done Mechanicus
etc.
Why'd they do knights faction focus so early if they basically are a support only faction?

>>53323617
Missing the point.

Manletmarines are gone. No more kits for them. That is the squating.

SoB are still fucked thou. Since they are not getting anything new this year. In fact we are getting a new xeno army not related to the current armies.
If the Spaniard GW is not bullshiting it will be something like the Hrud

>>53323628
Well meltaguns will do D6 wounds to wraithknights now, so there will at least be way more options to fuck them up. That will already make the most WAACfaggy knife ears cry.

>>53323614
Wait we still have to face off against shit like this? I thought they said something about a CAD?

>>53323514
>all these 5+ invulns against shooting

How the fuck are Tau going to do anything

>>53323654
Marinelets will come last. I'd say that's also why CSM had such a shitty faction focus, because they share several basic profiles with marinelets.

>>53323644
>Grab the soulstone from my farseer's lifeless body and return it back to my craftworld

I failed Battle Shock

>>53323514
>>53323520
So we can now say for certian that it will take 864 lasgun shots as BS 3+ to kill a knight on average.
That's 1,080 points of gaurdsmen minimum.
Looks like we can out the final nail in the coffin of the "everything wounding anything will make titans and knights easy to kill" meme

>>53323645
Only because it started out as an anti-xeno game. The shit posting would only get worse and then also the whinning. Jesus it would be pain.

>>53323658
i imagine WK will have similar wounds to a knight so between 20 and 28. Thats a whole lotta melta guns

>>53323567

Unironically yes, replace the Lady with the Emperor or Omnissiah and you have a very similar culture for knight households

Chaos knights are Mousillon

>>53323644
I didn't get this picture until i realized it was about combat.

>>53323660
Theres the batallions, and other organisations.
They dont have ane LoW slots.

>>53323623
>this is a shit question. It wouldn't be 40k with the Imperium and Chaos but I play Xenos.
2nd this. I play Orks, and 40k would be boring if the only armies they had to fight were arrogant panzees, trigger happy weeabos, cranky tin robots and giant bugs.

This ain't the Horus Heresy, this is 40k.

>>53323628
>Moves 18"
>More that 6 Damage by a +D3 or some shit
>But they only have 20 wounds so it's balanced lolol

I've played Swordwind all my life but something wicked just woke up inside me at the thought.

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It's Happening!
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/19/warhammer-40000-faction-focus-adepta-sororitas/

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>>53323498
I don't know, I'm friendly!

>>53323705
>implying csm players aren't at least 50% of the whining

>>53323712
Fuck off

>>53323717
how was alien covenant?

>>53323656
>Manletmarines are gone. No more kits for them. That is the squating.
No it's not. By that logic marines were squatted when they changed the models the previous times, since those proportions would never again get models.

We already have all the models for everything marines can field save the relic stuff FW makes. We'ee getting new models. We aren't going away in the lore, in fact we're getting an upgrade.
That is absolutely nothing like the outright destruction and removal that happened to the squats which is what squatting refers to.
You're either using words wrong or just flat out wrong, take your pick

>>53323712
You need to post it earlier, before it's widely known what the actual faction focus is.

>>53323574
It's a bit if a hold over from the rouge trader and 1st/2nd ed of fantasy, where they had to make a lot the models and artwork pop and be exciting to attract interest and show off the artists skill, and most of the schemes do look cool when done properly and look uniquely 40k so they've stuck around

>>53323712
fake and gay. this stopped being funny after the fake points pics were posted.

>>53323670
Time to invest in some Kroot.

>>53323695
Who is Mousillon

>>53323712
(you)

>>53323718
There are like 4 factions that I can allow or at least tolerate the bitching.
Orks for being shit and having old as fuck models
Nids for being shit and getting butcher so many times. They need the 3rd edition codex bac
SoB for old as fuck metal models
IG for horrible troop kits

The rest can survive their bad rules or old models. This 4 need the love more

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>all grey knights come with AP-3 D3 damage force swords standard plus hammerhand
>psycannon will be Str 7 AP-2
>incinerators auto hit
>land raiders amazing
>Paladins will be 3W
>all units can cast their own powers again
>no scatter deep strikes

Grey knights have been made great again

>>53323574
Iron Warriors would look terrible if they didn't have the hazard stripes to make them more visually interesting.

>>53323751
baddie bretonnians

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>>53323733
Seconding this.
And while we're at it, might as well deport chaos undivided fanboys, since they're the ones who defended armless the harmless. Oh, and nurgle lovers, for having shit taste both litterally and figuratively.
That should take care of all the problems.

>>53323751

The region of bretonnia north of Bordeleaux that is now infested with vampires who still think of themselves as knights

>>53323717
cant tell if trap or not
qt if not

>>53323730
This level of delusion.
Manletmarines are gone. You are only getting Primaris. In fact your old heroes will get the sweet loving Chadmarines juice inside them.

Marines are a dead man walking Faction

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>>53323758
Stronger than custodians?

>>53323574
I addition to what the other anon said, specifically in regard to marines it also goes back to medieval heraldry rules.
The original Minotaurs scheme even had diagonal stripes. Kind of hard to paint on a model, but works on a shield.
checkers and whatnot are elements you can trace back to that as well.

>>53323787
not a trap, m8

>>53323790
better not be since they're supposed to be the best of the best that humanity has

>"The canny Knights general will need to be wary of enemy models with multiple D6 damage melee attacks such as Trygons, which can severely damage or destroy Knights in a single lucky round of combat."

>TRYGONS CAN DO 24 WOUND IN ONE TURN
WHAT

>>53323614
Finally I can field my 3 Magnus the Red models in a battle forged army.

>>53323798
>>53323787
>>53323729
>>53323717
Fuck off you blog posting scum.

>>53323790

frankly a strike squad can trade pretty well with a guardian squad considering that the grey knights will do multi damage on the custodes and negate their 2+

>>53323789
>Manletmarines are gone. You are only getting Primaris. In fact your old heroes will get the sweet loving Chadmarines juice inside them.
Oh, I see. You just can't read, since I clearly said that no shit we aren't getting new models, and that our marines would eventually be upgraded.
Delusional means I deny those things, not out right state them to be true.
Stupid bolter bitch.

>>53323807
4 attacks, 6 wounds flat per attack
that or 1d6 wounds

>>53323820
Dark Angels are gay Mr Chinaman

>>53323820
Anon no please

>>53323758
>plus hammerhand
Tbd, we have no idea what it will be.

>Paladins will be 3W
Assuming. Makes sense, but we shall see.

>no scatter deep strikes
Only half can DS now as opposed to null deployment.

>>53323820
piss off autist

>>53323717
>goes on 4chan
>tripfags
>plays warhammer
>is a girl
We are hitting mental illness levels not thought possible

>>53323820
>guy 1: trap?
>guy 2: no trap.
>blogposting
You dont seem to know what blogposting is, Anon.

>>53323847
I don't see how that is mental illness.

>>53323614
Is three super heavies even practical?

>>53323851
>Durr let's obsess over this tripfag

You're blog post enablers.
Fuck off and die.

>>53323585
That's stupid.
I'm xenos and you can't have 40k without the imperium.
You could easily do away with a few space marine chapters which are actually recolors of each other though.

>>53323837

Hammerhand could be different but desu it's survived as a strength buff for 20 years now, it'll probably be pretty predictable

>only half can deep strike

The other half can ride in some sweet ass land raiders

>>53323807
Trygons currently have 7 attacks (6 base+2 STs)
if they retain that, and have D6 Dam, thats very very do able.
hopeeing trygons will get their 5++ back from the days of FW

>>53323864
>not getting the difference between obsessing and appreciating

>>53323717
Durr, so the " grill finds Tyranids cute " isn't entirely meme.

>>53323858
>goes on 4chan
>not mentally ill

>>53323864
Wew. Avoid the point then, I guess.

>>53323705
You mean 30kg.

This thread was so young. cant we all talk about how powerfists are no longer actively shit?

>>53323825
Wait a second are you trying to be serious? Or are we both shit posting in a new meta level?

The entire point is that manletmarines as models are going to lose the support.
It'd be surprising if GW made more manletmarines instead of just Chadmarines.
That is meaning of Squat in this particular context

>>53323807
thats only 4 attacks with D6 dmg
trygons currently have 7 attacks

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>>53323863

Can I take some troops too?

>2 baneblades and a shadowsword plus 2 infantry platoons

>>53323880
Lots of people find Nids cute. Some of them happen to be girls.

>>53323813
>trying to out jew the birdboys
Clearly we need to deport all lines who's only official models are manlets, or who won't get official GW licensed non-manlet models in the near future.
Oh, and we should start with the armies who don't have an official GW and/or FW primarch model, since they won't matter in the new and improved GW's age of primarchs! If they can't get a primarch or new non-manlets in the near future, then they'll just bitch about that for years on ened.
I guess that means alphamemes are the first to go.

>>53323623
As an Imperial player, I second this. I would miss playing against Xenos
>>53323680
why do all mathammerfags forget about there being multiple turns? Even if we don't count FRFSRF, you can't kill ALL guardsmen on your turn, especially with a single metal beast. So there will be a second turn of shooting.
Not to say the wall of light is not a meme but I don't think the 1080pts figure is right

>>53323886

I am unbelievably happy that imperial guard power fists are actually not shit anymore.

>>53323886
What I dont understand is the force weapon being a better power fist

>>53323886
Tell that to Mr closet Homosexual.

But yah I find the powerfist a bit odd.

Reminder that nids have the best model range in the game and soon might not be shit to play

>>53323891
No.
You'll have to take one of the other detatchments on the side.

>>53323875
>appreciating blogposting

rebbit

>>53323884
The point is that you're a shitty blogpost enabling little cunt.

>>53323909
Technically speaking power fist are a force weapon in the sense that they use a warp field magic thingy to the damage.

>>53323908
>5's to hit
>wounds marines on 3's
naa, they shit on humans

>>53323680
Are guardsmen really BS3+? Isn't that equivalent to the BS4 Marine's shooting?

>>53323887
>That is meaning of Squat in this particular context
I'm pointing out that is not squatting. Perhaps a better term would be aspecting, for like eldar aspect models they'll never be upgraded again. Or maybe boyzing? Or perhaps warbuggying? Take your pick, but it's not squatting, since that's wholesale gone never to be mentioned again except in a couple of passing things.

>>53323909

They already were if you wounded on a 2+, although now force weapons will only wound on a 3+ against marines at best

>>53323873
Real question will be what the falchions stats will be.

Because if
NF Halberd = Force Axe
NF Sword = Force Sword

The halberd will be back on top. Giving us S5

>>53323933
No they really dont.Power weapons use Scientfic disruption feilds, force weapons use warp mumbo jumbo
Get your facts straght before posting

>>53323943
The Way Of The Manlet has a nice ring to it.

>>53323908
>>53323909
I am just happy that i can field the powerfist sergeant with his combiflamer.

>>53323935

Vet sergeants platoon and company commanders are all WS4 now, they'll hit on 4's and wound on 3's which is identical to using a power axe (hit on 3's wound on 4's) but with better AP and damage.

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What's the best loadout to give a Helbrute?

Is it true that all Titan level units can walk out of combat and never be bogged down in 8th?

Seems pretty good if it is.

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Overall I like the proposed changes for 8th edition, but I think the wound rules seem a little too loopy. I hate the thought that a laspistol can potentially down a knight.

I'm anxiously waiting for more information on individual factions. GW has been pretty shit in the past, and I'm hoping they don't nerf any of my shit with the edition change.

I think that's what everyone is feeling though. Daemons players must be upset.

>>53323943
Sidelining or in handegg terms, benching.

>>53323981
Same in 8e as in 7e. Equip it with what your army is lacking/needs more of.

>>53323986
theyve said as much for knights. Odds are same will be true for titans

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>>53323930

>>53323987
Anon if someone kills a knight with a las pistol i will personally blow that man.

>>53323960
Power weapons is a different Tech than power fist

>>53323977
Then it will come down to price. if its still 15/25 for axe/fists, then they arent that good

>>53323959

Depends if everyone gets hammerhand again, STR6 AP-3 versus STR7 AP-2 might be a harder choice

>>53323987

Said laspistol will have to shoot approximately 1300 times to kill a knight

>>53323654
Because they have this detachment that hypes people up for buying more than two big hunks of expensive plastic.

>>53323906
>why do all mathammerfags forget about there being multiple turns? Even if we don't count FRFSRF, you can't kill ALL guardsmen on your turn, especially with a single metal beast. So there will be a second turn of shooting.
Nobody is forgetting that, and one could easily calculate how many gaurdsmen you need to kill it in any number of turns. But that doesn't give us the best gaurdsmen to knight ratio, which shows how many gaurdsmen's worth of shots are needed to bring one down.
You need 540 points worth to kill it in 2 turns
360 points worth to kill it in 3 turns
270 points worth to kill it in 4 turns
216 points worth to kill it in 5 turns
180 points worth to kill it in 6 turns
But the knights will already be in close combat by turn 3 at the latest on average, so even then you'll rarely be killing it with significantly less points worth of gaurdsmen.

>>53323986
Against infantry they can.
And there's been no mention of other LoWs with "locking" abilities.

>>53323995

>BRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP

Good advice.

>>53324004
They're not. Both use disruption fields.

sorry if this has been asked, i did scan the general, but what is that terminator model that duncan is painting in the new vid for today?

>>53324006

I have a feeling they're trying to make power weapons closer to each other in usefulness, so I would imagine the price disparity might be closer than it used to be

>>53324020
Thanks m8, always glad to help out

>>53324004
No, its not. where the fuck are you getting any of this from? Fists have always been more powerful power weapons. Christ

>>53324020
That can mean two things.
Either a chaingun or a fart fetish.

Admech haven't even had their focus yet and they're looking baller as fuck. Knights still look decent and a flat 6 wounds is pretty awesome when they're forcing a 6+ save or Invuln at best. You can get some decent use out of that Thermal Cannon now, too. Vanguard look like they're going to be good with the buffs to S3 and volume of fire, Rangers get to use their AP and everyone may actually get a save now. All they have to do is not gut Doctrinas and I'll be thrilled.

>>53324027
Tartaros.

>>53324027
looks like a tartaros terminator

>>53323717
Are you into vore?

>>53324008
I was just thinking that if HH gives +1 S thats S5 vs S6, which would change up everything.

>>53324027
It's the Tartaros Terminator Captain from BaP

>>53323938
Sorry, you're right, it's BS 4+.

>>53324041
obviously he wants to bury his face in that helbrute ass

>>53324055
>>53324056
thanks anon. only guy that plays marines in my area uses old metal marines so i never see the newish stuff they have

>>53324029
Not a huge fan. i always liked thewir being two teirs of PW : the basic ones like the sword and axe, and then the stuff like the fists, hammer and claw

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>>53323881
Can't argue with that.

>>53324067
great. now we just need a grill to show up with a chaos mechanical tentacle fetish.

>>53323614
Now I can run only Imperial guard superheavy tanks.

MFW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpBngmCpUrU

>>53323717

Fuck off trip-fag, dont you get enough attention in real life that you have to resort to sell yourself at an anonymous image board for obese neckbeards?

>>53324071
All you need to do is browsing the Warhammer-community site and the store once a month to catch up with new model release.

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>>53324079
(You) now fuck off you degenerate

>>53324026
>>53324038
Old lore from 3rd might had been translation problems.

I remember power weapons to be "science field and mono filaments" while power fist and power claws "warp fields"

"Campo de energía disforme" was usually use for "warp field"
While "Campo de energía" was used for power weapons.

>>53324092
Anon no we are trying to move past this

>>53323997
>implying wyches won't just tie them up in combat

>>53323614

Isn't that all but useless to some factions like Tyranids and Orks?

Does anyone actually give a fuck about Titanicus?

>>53323986
They could already do that though

>>53323717
A little too clothed for my tastes tbqh

The type of person that owns knights and titans arent the type of person you want to play with anyhow so who cares what the rules are. No point playing with those faggots anyhow

>>53324138
what fresh hell is this

>>53323729
the crew but david and walter are retarded as fuck, the story is fine for what it is and the effects are cool, but really expects you to have seen prometheus

and the ending has no real impact in the big picture of the alien universe
7/10 I'd say

>>53324134
HH fag does.

>>53324151
i kinda wanna get one knight someday if i can find one for cheap
Feudal Pacific Rim kaiju combat, yes plox

>>53324158
But anon, riptides aren't titans! TEQs at best!

>>53324075

That part I'm sure will stay, lightning claws, THs, chainfists and daemonhammers will maintain their supremacy but power fists will be a bit more of a middle choice

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>>53324134

I do.

It had a lot of unique weapons, like the Ork Snapper that auto-crashed Imperial and Eldar Titans when it hit them or the bola weapons that entangled their legs.

I think there was even a crotch gun that fired giant spiked wrecking balls that could bowl over or crash through entire Titan maniples and squadrons and what not.

>>53324151
One Knight isn't so bad, and they are really cool models. Titans and Knights are at least a hell of a lot cooler than Riptides or Wraithknights or those 200pt+ Named Chapter Masters, and Titans are fun to go up against given it'll be Apoc and thus completely imbalanced anyway.

One Knight is currently a completely manageable force, even for an army lacking one. My Skitarii manage all the time, although I admit I have a lot of Haywire. The thing I don't like about them is that a fight between two of them is pretty much a coin flip with only 6HP, and now we know we can tank four blows before dying with the 5++, so some tactics will be involved unless you want to count on making all four 3+/3+/5++ roll sequences.

>>53324217
I don't know, anon. Riptides are pretty cool.

>>53324213
Some times i wish i had a dick cannon that could destroy imperial titans.

>>53324233
Depends on your sense of aesthetics I guess. I really like the design cues of Riptides, in fact even more than Gundam.

>>53324228
>he doesn't have a mighty sunfury annihilator that destroys titans
Ha, get a load of this pleb!

>>53324217
Invulnerable save is only vs shooting. So that charge for strike first is pretty important.

>>53323520
Im gonna try my damnedest to grot blaster one of these to death now.

>>53324132
Both have some affordable but sub-par LoW's

Orks can take kill-burstas.
How will a 3d6" radius pie plate translate into shots i wonder?

10d6 shots?

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The first sister repentia is done, I'm not really that happy with the skin but it's a start.

>>53324276
Tyranid Heirophant.

>>53324276
Like any big vehicle in 7th

>>53324276
Right off the top of my head of have to say either the biotitan or the stompas

>>53324276
Gorkanaught is pretty high up.

Khymaera too.

>>53324271
Still unlikely to be a one turn kill without support, though.

>>53324276

The Thunderhawk is pretty shit, as is its bigger brother the Stormbird.

>>53324309
yeah, they usually aren't this bad but it's really hot today so the paint is drying too fast.

>>53324293
Shame she leaked all that onto the base

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>>53323717

>>53324107
>Jonny foreigner tries to tell a brit how his game work
Bloody typical

>>53324324
After getting railed by several demonic hordes, she couldn't contain herself

>>53323880
Fiancee chose Tyranids with zero input from anyone else, just naturally gravitated towards them

It's usually Tyranids or Dark Eldar it seems

>>53324151
Can confirm that the only person I know who owns a knight is the least fun person to play with.

He also wants to constantly be smoking weed.

>>53324264
I just try to eat them with the small bugs.

>>53324289

Rules wise, I thought the Kill Burst was about as outdated as the Kustom Stompas were?

>>53323909
You may need to explain yourself. 2×Strength definitely outweighs -1 to hit against a lot of targets.

>>53324355
>Dark Eldar
B-but why tho ?

Reminder that space marines are americans

>>53324124
Drukhari Shadow of the Colossus now

>>53324380
Goth girls and lowkey freaks

>>53323670
Ethereals shouting mortal insults (wounds) at the enemy.

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>>53324384

>mfw catachans are americans
>they have britbong accents in audiobooks

>>53324369
5th ed, like every other ork FW unit.

>>53324384
>>53324406
Everyone in 40k is British, they just cosplay as other shit.

Am I being an incredibly naive newfag or wasn't some rule like the one for super heavies totally to be expected? I couldn't believe earlier during the day when some fagits were complaining about baneblades /land raiders bogged down by cheap blobs

>>53323546
>friendlynarrativegame.jpg

>>53323981
ARE YOU A HELLBRUTE OF KHORNE?

THEN GET DOUBLE POWER FISTS AND START PUNCHING. MOSTLY BECAUSE ITS CHEAP AND YOU CAN GET MORE HELLBRUTES OF KHORNE TO PUNCH MORE STUFF. ALSO HELLBRUTE POWERFISTS ARE S12 NOW SO YOU BASICALLY WOUND MOST THINGS ON 3+ OR 2+.

>>53324442
"Superheavies" being able to just walk/drive out of combat unhindered, even with "sticky" enemies.

>>53324422
Landraiders might be a decent ram if they give it a dozer blade. Or you deliver the guys inside, then retreat and have it act as a shooty unit.

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>>53324380
Slick style, cool hair, other stuff I guess

Dark eldar are pretty cool

You only see a lot of hate for everything xenos on here because /tg/ has a high proportion of autists who can't comprehend anything other than a box with wheels or legs being interesting

>>53324124
>wyches throw a net on the Imperial Knights foot
>"NOOOOO I AM CAUGHT! GO ON WITHOUT ME"

>>53324479
>cue AT-AT scene but with a knight

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>>53324474
dem gunboats man, gunboats and assault is what got me.

>>53324442
what >>53324459 said. Sorry I just finished reading and came to post, superheavies can can walk / drive out of combat unhindered but /tg/ gets bogged down to shitposting after 5 minutes of release

>>53324293
If you're going for snowy tundra I think the grass needs to be more sparse. It looks a bit like someone has walked across a field with a bucket of snow, leaving a trail of it in an otherwise warm and sunny environment.

>>53324421
Do Nids stop for tea during their galaxy wide invasion?

>>53324534
N-No we dont

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>>53324380
Best girls, Yvraine is like first model of craftworld born woman without helmet, not counting unreleased Iyanna.

>>53324479
>wyches can keep a vendetta stuck in close combat.
FOUL XENOS TRICKERY!

Newbie here. This has been probably asked before but....
What would be the best way to start a SM army? The start collecting seems good enough, maybe a few copies? There's also tons of the Vedros boxes lying around my local store but no dark vengeance sadly. Any suggestions?

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>>53324416

If they bring those back, it's going to be interesting.

I think the Ork Kustom Stompa could have a high number of blast weapons and also had access to the Deff Arsenal, which could generate D3 Supa-Rokkits.

One in 8th could probably wipe a whole army out on it's own.

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>>53324504
Aw yiss

Looking forward to flying raiders into enemy units, impaling them on the pointy prows trireme-style, then having the guys inside jump out and stab faces

>>53324534
Nids are the scots of 40k.

Maybe, I have no idea about the actual relations between english and scots

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Does this look like an Ordinatus to anyone else? Damn, the Germans didn't fuck around, did they. Given you can get a cheap 1/144 scale model of the Dora gun mounted on it for about £50, I may get some Admechy tracks and converty bitz like the Sector Mechanicus and make myself a Sagittar.

>>53324519
Found the autist

>>53324565
Wait for 8th edition. End of this month. New starter box would be a nice start.

>>53324558
>half-naked super fit eldar bimbos are trashing about your plane
I'd hit that hover mode too, unless they can jump good.

So do we think lightning claws are still power swords that reroll wounds? Or will they do something else with them?

Also has it been confirmed or denied that models fight with all equipped weapons? (AoS style).
I curious to know if models with 2 melee weapons like LC/PF use both or only one.

>>53324574
Nids are more like Muslims or Gypsies.

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>>53324574
bloody scots

>>53324572
Fast murder-elves are FUN

>>53324614
Should have shooped some green drips on the blade at least desu anon

>>53324565
The best advice is to start small and start slow. Play some small sized games to get a feel for the army. Once you get a feel for the game, you can then plan an army that fits your playstyle.

Is there an easy way to make some editable form looking like 8ed datasheet ?

Or a template, at least.

>Close combat weapons
>no mention of scything talons or rending claws

>faction focus Imperial Knights

>>53324276
Malcador tank.

That thing is useless.
It does not even have a turret!

>>53324614
All factions are cool, stop being raging faggots

>>53324675
Even Tau?

>>53324474
>box on legs
>implying dreadnaughts aren't best space marines

>>53324575
1/144 is too small.
Get a 1/72 ,slap aquilas ,skulls and some gothic architecture on it and it is good to go.

>>53324657
>Close combat weapons
>no mention of choppas or klaw of gork

>faction focus Imperial Knights

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>>53324693

>no preview of what's coming tomorrow
Release date tomorrow?

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>>53324684
Especially tau, that's why other factions are sometimes so salty.

>>53324717
If corporation soul is not mistaken it should be around the second week of June 5th to 11th.

Unless GW goes retarded it should be around those dates

>>53324725
Tau would be 50% cooler if they didnt have those ugly fucking heads and helmets

Also the non-metallic paint schemes make them look shit, but thats easier to fix.

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>>53324621
>ulster > south Ireland

>>53324691
Really? Ordinatus is 13" long, the Dora was 47.3 metres, and that at 1/144 works out at 13.1", assuming the historical modelling people did their research. That was roughly the plan for converting it, although no aquilas because Traitor Mechanicum will also be using it.
I have no idea if the actual rules are any good, either, the idea of the Ordinatii is just cool.

>>53324754
I meant the release date announcement, since they did say it's this month and have so far always hinted at the next day's spoilers in either the spoiler post or the Faction Focus.

>>53324736
That image is such an ideological mess that it hurted a bit

So i'm looking to take the plunge into 40k more so the creative and the tactical and looking for some advice,

I'm the type of person to make sure I have absolutely everything I need before I start and that being said

Is there any value in the starter sets that include paint + models (I remember reading that the models provided are a lower quality than those sold separately)?

Are there any resourced with specific colours/types to get (say for example all the paint that you'll use for the Ultramarines)

Are the Citadel Paint sets (Layer/Base/Shade) worth buying or should I just go individual

>>53324756
The Tau should have been humans in battlesuits, imo. Against the Imperium but also not seduced by chaos.

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>>53324725
I like most evrything about their suits except their stupid little ankles, they should have hooves like the tau.

>>53324785
>Doubting Khans greatest creation

>>53324769
Well I miss that part. I'm at lost.

British corporation are a colossal mess to understand most of the time

>>53324134
Reading it right now and I'm liking it a lot so far, but I have a huge roboner for the admech lately so I'm biased.

>>53324693
Anon, are you okay? I was just trying to help improve your memes.

>>53324787
>superior tau technology
>snaps at the ankles
Take that Xenos

>>53324613
>we
my guess is S:user AP-2 re-roll (and a discount)

What are good deals for Nids? I'm talking in a general sense is the swarm or start collecting good? Wanna hunt deals while I wait for rules to arrive

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>>53324621
Nice try, crumpet.

Part of me want the return of rules like.

If you can balance a billion models on top of a transport then you can transport that silly amount of models.
Any models that falls and hits the table counts as dead.

But that's just me and that can be easily house ruled

>>53324832
>still no poison drip shoops
>not making their skin more pale
>not making them look more like DE
low effort desu

>>53324837
The swarm is an amazing deal go- I mean anon.

>>53324837
No-one knows what their rules and point costs will be. Both start collecting and transport+troop (gaunts and tervigon?) are good bundled deals.

>>53324865
Yep.

I mean if I wanted some skill based game I would not play 40k

>>53324865
>Phil Kelly won't take charge of Orks and Nids again

Either that forgot to put up a teaser for tomorrow's reveal, or it's going to be big and they're keeping it a surprise. We weren't told which faction focus was next either.

>>53324575
>schwer Dora
You. I like you.

But it's too small. You need a model that can sensibly be crewed by 1" tall guardsmen. Use that as a baseline.

>>53324776
>Is there any value in the starter sets that include paint + models
Starter set is a good start to get into WH40k

> (I remember reading that the models provided are a lower quality than those sold separately)?
Nonsense

> Are there any resourced with specific colours/types to get (say for example all the paint that you'll use for the Ultramarines)

Watch all Duncan's tips

>Are the Citadel Paint sets (Layer/Base/Shade) worth buying or should I just go individual
Only get what you need.

>>53324922
*they

>a couple trygons deep strike 9" away from your 3 knigths and bring other units in too
>move back 12" if you can
>trygons move and assault your knights
what happens

>>53324945
You're fucked. The correct course of action is to charge the Trygons so you can strike first.

>>53324534
Nids apparently stopped for tea for about a decade.

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>>53323774
>hating on undivided
You afraid of the Qliphoth, Jew?
Yeah I know it's shit, did it on myself when I was 16 and just got my first set of tattoo equipment

>>53324945
>move back 12" if you can

What's this? The knights falling back?

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RELEASE DATE WHEN??.

>>53324776
Decide on an army, get that army's SC! Box (and whatever else you find cool/more basic troops), find a color scheme you like and then look around YouTube and the web how a color scheme like that is made. They have a ton of painting tutorials on their YT channel.

>>53324355
Tyranids = cute animals.

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>>53324995
I love my nids cause they are like cute little dogs

>>53324020
based BRAAPposters

>>53324845
I spoke to a gw employee the other day (shop owner, I was bored and waiting on a plane) and he said that what they're trying to do is make a game that works on the tournament level again.

They've recognized now that causal players will just houseule and kitbash and wigglewogglebinglebongle their way to fun as long as the models are nice, so they want the rules to be tournament capable.

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>Balanced lists with plenty of troops will get extra CP

>2 Mandatory HQ, 3 mandatory troops
>+3 CP

>3 Mandatory LoW
>+3 CP

4chan "culture" was a mistake

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>>53325022
>2 meks and 30 grots
>+3 CP
>900p of knights
>+3 CP

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>>53325022
Forgot to mention the battalions don't get a LoW slot.

>Support LoW BTFO
>LoW Transport BTFO
>Rowbooty BTFO

>>53324276
Khorne Lord of Skulls. I get that 888pts is fluffy af but in 7th edition even at 444 he'd be kinda shitty.

>>53325022
Except that in all likelihood any balanced list that is up against a Super-Heavy Detachement will be a Brigade or similar, getting a whooping 9 CP. That is three times as much.

>>53325022
>Be Guard
>Take infantry platoon
>1 troops choice, 2 units minimum, 13 units max
TROOPS YOU SAY
>alternatively
>buy veterans
>6 troops choices for 300 points

I'm set, looks like

>>53325011
Not uncommon over here, very non-religious nation.

>>53325062
>thinking the amount of shitposting in here is good
>cries if I say anything bad about 4chan
spotted the newfag trying to fit in

>>53325066
When would you ever take a brigade detachment?

>>53325052
Are we still allowed to mix n' match detatchments?
Thought they'd culled that shit

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>>53324976

>>53325022
so 6 re-rolls over 36 phases? Might be too little. Snake eyes on 6" charge, 4 on the 5++ vs that melta, battleshock going to decimate your last objective holding troop, I can think of dozens of games where if that one god damn die had just been different I would have won or tied.

>>53325066
The hell? How do you play the 'ally knight' then? No one will buy a knight if they can't play just one, that's retarded.

>>53324976
Why is there a toilet seat inside the undivided symbol?

>>53325086
>senile officer thinks they'll get to keep platoons

>>53325108
Well, it's sort of (at least half) warhammer related.

>>53324928
True. I'll have a look at the 1/72, although if that's way too gigantic I can have a poke at the Krios tank operators. Their tracks are about right to build into the thing, and it's got a crewman techpriest. Combine that with some of the SectorMech parts and I could concevably turn the back section with the loading weapons into a command platform. I would imagine the 1/72 would need a double set of Baneblade tracks to look feasible movement-wise.

I think the Krios crewmen are cast with their fuckoff hueg guns, too, so I guess I can figure out what to do with a pair of Pulsar Fusils or Lightning Cannon.

Do you put your incubis in raiders or venoms?

I know the popular line is to use venoms but I feel like raiders weaponry is better suited to supporting against the type of enemies Incubi are usually thrown at. And I like taking 5 incubi plus IC. Four incubi always feels just slightly short of critical mass for me.

>>53325123
There might be a detachment that has one LOW that we haven't seen yet. Supposed to be 12 to 14 that all army lists have to build from.

>>53325097
3x more command points than batallion or LoW detachments. If you spam MSU units like the current demi-company armies.

>>53323717
Clearly I missed some earlier post with this "girl" and can't find it in the archive. Whats going on?

>>53325177
You can shred +1 dude more?

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>>53325135
I don't hate this website. I hate how insufferable faggots act when trying to fit in with le epic shitposts cause that what le 4chan culture is like teehee.

>>53325177
The enemy is so stunned by the enormous stupidity of your chosen weapon that you are able to get an extra attack in.

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>>53325086
>Be Guard
>Looking at brigade
>Mandatory Elites

I mean I can split my sentinel squads but damn.

>>53325188
It was about a week ago, she posted lewds with her tripcode written on her stomach for verification and everyone immediately became autistic. It made me sad to be a part of this board, to be honest.

>>53325006
It's a weirdly agreeable statement. I like my Nids because I love being the benevolent hivemind overseeing my rabid cuddlies as they devour my opponent's world in pursuit of hugs and snacks.

>>53325177
RIP and fucking TEAR.

anyone have any experience using the averland sunset spray for imperial fists? is it easier then just painting them with the same colour with a brush?

I have been trying to paint my imperial fist model for three days, failing three times.
I am so mad I could start collecting world eaters

>>53325215
>>53325208
>nudes and lewds
Where? I'm asking for a friend.

>>53325212
>literally one scion squad
My jimmies remain unrustled.

>>53325188
There were two notable ones. The original was a pic showing off a potential tattoo and a lot of skin. It was nuked. The second was an imgur link (supposedly nude) that was taken down minutes after it was posted. There are also rumors of nudes from private discord chats.

>>53325219
Finally someone gets me

>>53325212
TIME FOR SYKERS!

>>53325215
I'm his friend >>53325236

>>53325229
Try painting them bone and using a yellow glaze. Mengel minis has a good tutorial on this.

>>53325251
Of course, anon. I am you.
We are hivemind.

>>53325097
But anon how else will we afford to FRFSRF one squad every turn?

>>53325137
Is confirmed that Impies get to keep infantry platoons and vehicle brigades.

>>53323717
>claims to be a grill
>flat as ironing board
definitely a trap

>>53325261
BUT I NEED IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT!

>>53325097
Because I play genestealer cult

>>53325261
>not liking lewds
It's okay chinese gay danglesfag

>>53325280
If you saw the other pics you'd see the curves.

>>53323987
>I hate the thought that a laspistol can potentially down a knight
It can wound a knight.
It can't take down a knight.

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>>53325208
>>53325215
>>53325240

>>53325208
See i am all for ovipositon and like impregnating tons of women as a primarch stuff. But i keep my fetishes off this board why cant everyone else?

>>53325239
>literally three scion squads
Um?

>>53325280
Trap or not, chestlets aren't real women.

>>53325321
You're a bad man, anon.
Flat chest gf is best. Because they try and compensate through a variety of entertaining ways.

>>53325261
/tg/ has always had a lot of /d/. You are right about /soc/ though.

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>>53325315
I'll just leave you with this. I already got a warning before and I'd rather not lose my posting rights.

>>53325310
Tbf the curves aren't really that curvaceous.
Definitely got the "waifishly thin" thing happening.

>>53325319
I meant per choice anon. 15 dudes total.

Compared to a space marine detachment which would be buying 3 squads of terminators or sternguard with drop pods it's a pittance.

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>>53324843
>muh heritage

>>53325315
http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/53073059/#53074836

>>53325351
I-is there more where this came from?

>>53325340
I believe it started with a casual /d/ greentext and then the "grill" word happened and peeps started clamouring for proofs 'cos everyone knows qt grills who play the plastic are basically unicorns.

Proofs were unprooful enough so basically everyone is either in "more proofs" camp or "k clearly you's just an attn whore" camp.

>>53325397
Yeah it's in the archive link the other anon posted. I didn't think it would make it there tbqh

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> /40kg/ went full autistic again.
God fking damn it, this is why GeeDubs should just releases the 8th already.

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>>53323614
>Patrol with HQ & Troops
>0 command points
>3 Lords of War
>3 command points
>most balanced edition ever

Anyone already planning a marine army with primaris reinforcements? I kind of want to make some Sable Swords with primaris elites