Sci-fi/science fantasy arms and armor

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>>53208377

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>>53208395
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>>53208404

>>53208377

The idea of making new bullets on the spot seems sort of jarring. If you already have the matter anyway, why are you not just carrying it in bullet form to begin with?

Unless your gun has multiple firing modes, like a Judge Dredd gun, in which case being able to keep your options open with a universal ammo makes some kind of sense.

The clever solution is something you wear on your belt or back where you plug in a magazine and it fills it with new bullets. Instead of treating the magazine as disposable and creating a new one every time, you just fill that up and plug it in.

This way you can have two magazines and swap between them. The one your gun is using, and the one that is filling up from the ammodock.

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>>53208435
>The idea of making new bullets on the spot seems sort of jarring. If you already have the matter anyway, why are you not just carrying it in bullet form to begin with?

I would think that depends on the situation. If you know you're going to be far away from a potential resupply of the smart matter then it makes sense to make the bullets already in case something happens to the machine that does it.

On the otherhand, I could see such a system for short duration missions. You carry more ammo without wasting space on your person to carry them thus allowing you to carry more of other stuff.

This all depends on what you can do with the "smart matter" bullets and how customizable they are. It makes sense to have a standard mold and something upscale that lets you create different bullet types as well (i.e having something that can make both buck shot and solid slugs for example)

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>>53208883

Gaiz Gaiz!
I just had a super silly idea!

What if there was this revolver with 7 shots, and when you cocked the hammer the barrel would spin and on the side would be something like 777, -bar-, joker, ect.!

And each shot would do a different thing! And if somebody says, lol, thats stupid, you just say nano-nano! (nanotech! Its the wave of the future!)

>>53208883
>>53208906
shit. thats awesome. so jelly.

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>>53208943

I would totally sign up for a cybered up body to operate like that

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>>53208943
Ya, he's one of my favorite artists.

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>>53209005

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Time for a retro-sci fi one. Model 181 Service Autorevolver.

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>>53208377
Destiny, the setting where you go the image and I assume concept from, seems to utilize disposable magazines. However I would assume that the material that went into these magazines is recycled and not actually thrown away, so there wouldn't really be any net loss vs only replicating the bullets.

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>>53209089

Is that one of those automatic revolvers? I don't grasp the purpose of it sliding back along the grip.
>>53209218
Destiny is all over the place especially when you look at guns like MIDAS multi tool where the actual placement of the magazine doesn't corrolate with the bullets going into the chamber. Then again I just assume the magazine powers the gun and allows it to make bullets in the chamber hence no casings popping out of it. Neverminding the Zhalo Super Cell

>>53209266
Every single hand cannon in destiny, even stuff like the Last Word, have magazines somehow. You pop an entire cylinder out of the gun and put a new one in.

I assume it's some kind of smart matter, given the entire City seems to run on the stuff.

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>>53209266
Pretty sure the Omolon weapons give you a picture of what is going on inside the human weapons.
>Magazine contains smart matter fluid
>Fluid is drawn into the weapon
>Weapon turns smart matter into bullets which are fed directly into chamber

>>53208919

Just how much did your mother drink while you were in the oven?

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>>53209392
The detailing in the weapons supports that idea, they cylinders all have little nipples on them .

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>>53209266
Scout rifles in general don't make sense

Pulse Rifle designs are absolute sex though

>>53209422
not enough to leave it running

>>53209266
Don't forget the fact that the ammunition you put into the rocket launchers is actually smaller than the projectiles it fires.

>>53209266
>I don't grasp the purpose of it sliding back along the grip.
It's recoil operated, the barrel and cylinder go back from the recoil to turn the cylinder and re-cock the hammer.

It's pretty much the Webley Fosbery and Mateba revolver

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk-UCHsyTh4

>>53209597
This problem gets exponentially worse when you have rocket launchers with mutli-rocket magazines.

>>53209610
Guy who posted the pic here: In the context I had it drawn for, autorevolvers are preferred because women dominate the military, and the lighter trigger pull makes the gun much more user friendly.

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>>53209623

>>53209643
Matriarchal culture with no historical links to Earth. Is that enough for you?

>>53209653
>lighter trigger pull
>#triggered
Joke wrote itself

>>53209623
Kind of looks like it's a break open.
Can you tell me more about the setting that revolver is in?

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>>53209701
1920s-esque science fiction, with airships, tesla death rays, and mecha. Themes include nationalism, monarchy in the modern age, and lesbianism.

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>>53209729
You have my attention.

>>53208435
I remember reading a science fiction book by some italian dude where all guns had been condensed into a single rifle-like device.

These rifles were fed bars of metal that fitted into the rifle much like a modern magazine does, but the metal itself was the material being consumed by the gun as it fired.

What mattered was that these metal bars could be programmed via a computer located inside the brain of the soldiers linked up with their rifles in order to create any kind of ammo instantaneously, things like flechettes, incendiary, miniature rockets, explosives, subsonic or whatever.

That by itself was pretty cool, but there was one part I particularly liked where the protagonist programs his rifle to fire in two bursts, converting the first into an explosive while the second was fired as a hail of flechettes in order to overcome the problem of dealing with an enemy that makes use of some sort of energy shield that regenerates instants after being knocked down.

That's kind of what I imagine this kind of "universal ammo" would be used for, instant exchanging of ammunition without needing to reload or change weapons.

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>>53209775
Keep an eye out for a novel titled "Crowned in Lightning", I hope to publish sometime next year or the year after.

In the meantime, enjoy this mech, the Kiserran Warsuit Mk. II, first operational mecha used in warfare. (The Mk I was just a tech demonstrator and testbed)

>>53209190
i swear to god, the expanse has some fucking sick ass designs

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>>53208377
>tfw these lifeforms are still using smart matter
What's the matter, Guardians? Still can't do something as simple as create a wormhole into a star to be directed by the focusing array of your weapon when you fire it?

>>53209729
like the map but you lost me with >lesbianism

>>53209820
If it helps, it's not over the top or even sexual in the comic, just that the main couple is both girls.

>>53209831
But then how does babby formed?

>>53209816
Yeah, but you can't figure out how to be paracausal so you'll never actually win. Guardians make their own fate, Vex bitch.

>>53209837
Well, since one of the two is a Princess, this actually is a significant issue, but a society with both hereditary rule and frequent homosexuality naturally develops solutions. They end up adopting, since there's no need for the heir to be of her own body.

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Kraut space magic.

>>53209857
Also, we know from Roman history this is a sure fire way to have not-shit successors. Compare adopted sons to natural born ones and you'll start to see a pattern.

>>53209816
Well something must be wrong with that wormhole because you sure do run out of ammo quick with that thing.

>>53209870
I've never actually heard that, but I suppose it makes sense, especially if you adopt them older, because they won't just assume that everything is owed to them - they were chosen for a reason. I'll be sure to emphasize that, if I write that far.

>>53209816
Icebreaker sniper rifle was better anyway.

>>53209870
is that sarcasm?

Because I kind of remember part of the problems rome had was as loooong successions of imperial dynasties came about.

>>53209903
Well, the most obvious is Augustus being adopted but there's also the line of the Five Good Emperor's which stops when Marcus Aurelius dies before picking a successor. His son, Commodus, is widely regarded as pretty shit and is the go-to name for petulant young emperors in psuedo/historical fiction like Gladiator.

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>>53209844
Bugger off, we'll bootleg godhood eventually.

>>53209948
There dynasties yeah, but the from what I remember the most prosperous times are almost always the result of adopted sons ruling. Though, there were sometimes problems with that. Commodus died before any proper heir could be picked so there was then the ridiculous Year of Five Emperors.

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>>53209970

>Bootleg into godhood
>After getting bent over and fucked by the Hive

Even if Crota was a fuck up you still couldn't do jack shit.

>>53209970
You have infinite energy, perfect control over time, and the ability to write things out of existence. A bunch of manatees with bolters are still more of a threat than you are. Go home Axis Mind, you're clearly drunk.

>>53210010
How was crota a fuck up?

the only gun that matters is Bad Juju.

i'll kill Ghaul just for taking that away from me.

>>53210023
Didn't conquer earth and got killed three times. Once permanently.

Has anyone on /tg/ tried doing a Destiny homebrew of some kind? It has a lot of potential as a tabletop game setting. This is actually the first time I've seen it pop up around these parts though, but I might just not be paying enough attention.

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>>53210025
>the only gun that matters is Bad Juju.
You take that back you slut.

>>53210063
These threads have come up from time to time. The biggest problem is ultimately how to handle classes/subclasses and things like skills.

>>53210035

Crota was daddy's littel failure.

He wasn't nearly as awesome as his two sisters who not only developed the Death Song but also developed a number of technologies such as the the giant sphere that makes it harder to kill you as well as the super weapon that Oryx uses in the intro where he fights the Reef Born awoken.

There is a story where Oryx lets a Wizard into his court because she literally ran circles around Crota after he said he could fuck her up no problem.

And finally, thinking he was being smart like his sisters, he cut open a hole in their father's throne world that let the vex in in the first place (this was actually Savathun's doing as she tricked Crota into doing it). He and his sisters tried to fight them off but it took Oryx coming back and curb stomping them to get the vex out finally and Oryx picked Crota up by the legs and threw his ass in the hole saying "Come back a champion or don't come back at all!"

>>53210102
and those thousands of Guardians that Crota slew during the war for the Moon? apparently, back then, Guardians were a lot more numerous, but a lot less powerful. his one major victory in our system is killing a bunch of near-normals with an army at his back and trapping six under-prepared Guardians under the surface of the Moon--and he couldn't even kill more than four of them.

Toland is still jetting around his Oversoul pocket dimension and he hasn't even squashed him after all that time.

>>53210136
>Guardians were a lot more numerous, but a lot less powerful.
What do you base that latter point on?

>>53210136
Toland was in Oryx's throne world too. I think they were keeping him as a pet or something.

>>53210136
>Guardians were a lot more numerous, but a lot less powerful.
Could you cite that please? Not doubting that your right but I haven't come across anything saying that the older generation of guardians are less powerful.

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>>53210136

It's not that they were less powerful, They just had no idea what they were getting into. When Shaxx encountered them he immediately tried to stop them from doing the raid because they weren't prepared for the way the Hive fought and they paid for it dearly.

Toland though twisted was the guy who knew what the fuck was up but he certainly let his curiosity get ahead of him such that he wanted to get his booty call with Ir Yut and he got it which allows him to swim around in the Hive Netherrealm

>>53210154
He wasn't being kept as a pet, he's just hanging out there and can still talk to us and I firmly beilieve he still talks to Eris via the rock she carries around.

>>53209911
Look at this stupid piece of crap. It's using the format of the bullpup p90, but the ammo and barrel have been forced past the trigger. Not to mention the barrel itself is actually shorter here. You've got a weapon with twice the length with the accuracy of a pistol at best, using absurdly sized ammo for that length that isn't going to hit a damn thing.beyond 20m or so. Utter garbage.

>>53210176
I mean, Oryx probably could have gotten rid of him pretty easily. But he chose not to for whatever reason.

>>53209190
the mcrn looked fucking amazing

>>53210161
>>53210146

nothing i can point to offhand but i remember vaguely reading something that said it. plus everything you hear about past Guardians, especially Rezyl Azzir, suggests that they struggled with basic enemies--a few Acolytes, a Knight, and a Wizard; Rasputinian Frames; Vandals--and any major manipulation of Light, like supers, is treated as a major event. which i admit is likely mostly writing flair, but still.

and it makes sense, considering that Guardians tap directly from the Traveller. the more Guardians, the less Traveller tap.

>>53210176
>Toland though twisted
>Toland
>twisted
I bet the Speaker taught you that, didn't he? It's all part of the grand conspiracy to keep us guardians in line. Same reason Osiris was banished. WAKE UP SHEEPLE.

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>>53210198

They don't seem to act like they know he's there and make no mention of a human swimming around in their after life so who knows.

>>53210078
For the game mechanics the different sub classes are segregated with individual abilities but lore wise there's nothing that says you can't know these abilities all at once. Hell, One of the Iron Lords who was a warlock did a Titan Shoulder charge and outright says he learned it from Jolder who was a Titan. That said, there's nothing stopping you from hyperfocusing on a specific set of powers to become a really powerful user of a subclass but I imagine it more like how you have a wizard who uses a number of spells from different schools as opposed to just being a necromancer or a summoner for example.

>>53210218
You must be one of those Shadows of Yor types. Ever here of a guy named Kylo Ren?

>>53210063
I've actually been working on a Destiny tabletop project on and off for a long time. Started some time before Taken King came out, but honestly haven't made that much. I originally started it off as a homebrew for the FFG Star Wars system, but I've ended up making a lot of changes and tweaks to the system overall.

>>53210078
The way I've handled classes and subclasses is to make Titan/Hunter/Warlock main classes, while all of the subclasses are specializations that you pick during character creation.

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GAS THE ELIKSNI
FINAL WAR NOW

>>53210240
and Dredgen Yor was a Titan as Rezyl Azzir, but as Dredgen Yor he seems to be a Hunter, considering pretty much everything related to him is a Hunter item, and hand cannons are a Hunter specialty.

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>>53210274

The 4 arms have been cucked into servitude by Prince Uldrin Brother. Our new enemy are the cleft lipped rhinos

>>53210284
There is that, Rezyl Azzir was a badass Titan and then started acting like a Hunter when he fully gave in to his Darkness.

Then again, if using the Darkness is a thing in Destiny 2 who the hell knows what that means or will mean because all we know about the Dredgens is that they have fanboy boners for Yor and went out of their way to make replica Throns. That said they did say if they go bad they fully expect other hunters to kill them.

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>>53210274
Kill Eliksni? Kill... Variks?

No. Kill Cabal, maybe, or Hive, yes, yesss. But Variks and Guardians are... friendssss, hn-hn-hn.

And Variks is Eliksni now.

>>53210274
Fate had us meet as foes, but the coming Darkness will make us brothers.

>>53210244
Have anything that you can share? Even if there isn't much done crunch wise I'm sure it could potentially get the ball rolling on something.

>>53210310
Fuck. I really hope they don't make us use darkness powers in the next game. The Sky is the harder way. But it is kinder.

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>>53210279

I really like the way the leg armor is set up

>>53210389
There is nothing I fear more than the Dark.

But I will not lose another Guardian.

>>53210402
The Darkness is coming. Soon. You think we'll defeat it with ordinary human soldiers? This isn't a war ordinary humans can win. This is the fate of reality itself. Death's an inconvenience now. Nothing more.

>>53210179
Dear God, the noguns nonsense in this post makes my eyes bleed.
That's not a p90 nor does it use the same system, it's an AR platform with similar furniture, ergo nothing was forced anywhere it's supposed to be that way and your understanding of ammunition and accuracy is horrid, this is what's called a Short Barreled Rifle and while I wouldn't use that cartridge for it it is a perfectly capable rifle for close quarters engagements.

>>53210353
Alright fine, you can live, but you better have more lines in the next game.

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post yfw you intercept a communication from the Cabal Emperor and he says "crush them, oh soldiers mine..."

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>>53210436

I think the fact they show guardians without their helmets hopefully means the guardians will have more personally without the Ghost talking for you.
>>53210463

Wouldn't surprised me one fucking bit. When the Bond Brothers Koolaid man their way into Oryx's ship they were looking for a way to deal with us because they were annoyed we could just revive. Not to mention all of those fuckers using the Ahamkara knucle bones to get sweet loot

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>>53210361
Like I said I never really made a ton of progress, I kept putting it down for months at a time. I've got even less typed up, most of it is just notes and ideas jotted down. I did come up with a character sheet at least, and I can look around for some of the class stuff I've got typed up if people are actually interested at all.

>>53210360
Nice combo.

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>>53210500

Neat, seems like a good jumping off point for a lot of stuff.

I've been thinking of a homebrew system for Destiny esepcially in light of the new stuff that came out with Age of Triumph.

A big part of that would be a seperate skill set called Arcana which represents your very focused knowledge of a specific subject that not only allows you to access specific powers but also affects your social standing.

For example, Toland and Eris Morn would have the Highest Arcanda: Hive of anyone in the setting. This obviously makes them not very well liked to regarded by everyone else but also lets them use Hive Magic as Eris literally uses a spell to teleport us out of a death trap during Crota's Death Ceremony.

This also depends on where in the time line you run the game because only in the settings recent history are Hunters/Titans/Warlocks actually codified as a thing where as before they didn't refer to themselves as such. Felwinter was a warlock but used a Titan ability . Rezyl Azir was a Titan but the cards about him say he was a Titan before the idea of Titans became a thing and we see him running around with a Hunter's cloak (which he most likely took off of a hunter he killed).

so there is flexibility for a TTRPG I believe.

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>Be me
>Cabal Phalanx, just like ma always wanted me to be
>First deployment
>Excited and scared to leave the Empire for the first time
>After years of travel we arrive in the system
>It's inhabited by a bunch of tiny pink apes who worship a big skyball
>Literally just a fucking white orb
>Get to work conquering them
>Wait what the fuck
>There's Vex here too
>and Hive
>and those sneaky 4 armed bastards
>Ididnotsignupforthis.jpg
>Fight like hell anyway, no backing out now
>Dust settles, and we're stuck on a sand planet with no way to advance deeper into the system
>Like, the whole planet is just fucking sand
>No wonder the pinkies are so mad, their system is garbage
>No orders but "hold this shit-tier planet" for hundreds of years
>Eventually reports that the pinkies are back start to flow in
>Out on patrol with my bond brother, Hu'al.
>One of the pinkies zips out of nowhere on a speeder and rams his poor body into a wall
>I'LL SHOW YOU BASTARDS WHAT'S WHAT
>Don't even think to use my gun, too angry
>Smash him with my shield
>His body flies 300 feet in the air and lands with a satisfying splat
>That'll show you tiny fuckers who'se boss
>He comes back over a sand dune a few seconds later and kills me anyway
>mfw

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>>53208377
organic gear is fantastic dear

>>53210606
It probably would be better to categorize myth and lore into less general domains, however I felt like the skill list was already getting out of hand. Doing separate eras would be tricky, since we have so much less info about what was going on in the pre-city days. For things being flexible though, one could just use the EotE rules there. Which let you aquire talents/abilities from other classes at twice the normal cost.

Anyway, any questions about what you see on the sheet? I'd be happy to go more in depth on anything.

>>53209805
Let us know when you publish.

>>53210612
no grave but the battlefield, baby.

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>>53210612
>Be a legion of undead warriors powered by a mystical space deity
>Broke into a hidden pocket dimension where they have complete and total control over time and space, and kill the operator
>Beat up an Ascendant Hive demi-god with his own sword
>Smoked his immortal Hive god father for good measure
>Defeated a Fallen splicer priest so high on nanomachines that he turned into something out of DOOM
>Get rolled over and destroyed by the conventional military power that has no space magic bullshit whatsoever
I can't help but be amused by this turn of events.

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>>53210686

Possibly if all the stats are needed.

Personally I've been trying to figure out how to use Defense/Strength/Discipline/Intellect. I just like the idea of them being linked to various stats rather than emulating the stat arrays of games like DnD.

>>53210684
The text is hilarious.

>>53210940
I didn't really think too much of trying to replicate stats exactly as they are in the game, but one idea I did toy around with was having attributes come entirely from worn equipment like they do in the game. I'm not sure though, feels like something that would heavily limit what you can do build wise.

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>>53210991

Yeah, I wouldn't worry about trying to emulate the game to much. If anything only very very specific pieces of armor and weapons should have any particular special changes to anything rather than the way they have it in the game. That and it makes those bits and pieces special in that regards (not to mention you can make up exotic armors and weapons for your own purposes)

>>53211059
I'd have it so GMs could run it whatever way they liked. They could either run it as a look grind game where you are regularly getting progressively better gear, advancing through common/uncommon/rare/legendary weaponry and armor just like the game. Or they could have gear be special with drops being few and far between, with guardians basically only getting common and then legendary/exotic stuff without the filler inbetween.

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>>53211059
>>53211148
Personally I'm a sucker for loot grinding and gradual progression, so that's pretty much what I was going for. Plus so much of the gear would go to waste if you tried designing the game some other way.

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>>53211277
That whole image set is pretty stupid desu.

>>53211281
>7.92mm
>Energy blaster
What

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>>53211292
I havnt actually read the manga but I assume it uses some sort of cartridge or battery in the firing process.

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>>53211289

Why so, if I may ask

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>>53211310
Why would you build robots that look so much like animals. I think it would have been better if the concept was cyborg animals.

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>>53211332

A lot of them are designed to be used among the animals they emulate such as endangered Rhinos and what not. Otherwise they just expanded the tech for various purposes such as poachers using robot wild dogs and attack sub whales and seach and rescue manta rays with remoora drones.

Obviously they didn't have to look like animals but why not?

>>53211332
The giant tortoises are pretty stupid and inefficient from an engineering standpoint, but the rest are just neat to look at.

>>53208377
that gun triggers me(pun intended). the cylinder rotates, but the barrel is connected to the center of the cylinder. WTF?

>>53211744
It actually doesn't rotate at all in the game.

>>53209853
why doesn't the scope align with the barrel in a parallel?

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>>53208377
I would say you put spent mags in an external device you carry with you that regens bullets
I personally would say that you can put other shit in there to convert to smart matter

>>53210218
>I bet the Speaker taught you that, didn't he?
He could teach you about many things, but that time has long past now.

>>53210886
I have no fucking clue how they'll ever be able to make Destiny 2's story convincing. It doesn't help that the DLCs barely made sense.

>>53212059
Maybe I'm just used to convoluted stories but I really don't get why so many people find Destiny's hard to follow.

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>>53212081
very nice. source?

>>53208435
Because you aren't making bullets.
You are scraping metal from a metal storage, that is the ammo. So bullet type basically is variances on launch speed and grain size.

So you are basically using a railgun, with a mechanism to scrape of metal and put it into the launch zone.
Its one of those things Mass Effect got right. Just a fucking shame the franchise couldn't keep up the quality for another 2 more games.

>>53208919
Pretty quality shitpost, made me think you were retarded underageb& for a second. Here's a (you) for your troubles.

>>53212143

I mean, I get it's the fact that the story is rather seperated from the game itself in the form of Grimoire cards which would be fine had it not been for the fact you had to look outside the game to access them. And even then the main game didn't convey it's plot very well for the most part although I felt they were learning from their mistakes at least all things considering how the story was changed from their original version with the Traveller being secretly evil and what not.

I hope with Destiny 2 they'll have more in game story tell that is augmented by the griomire cards as well as having the actual guardian be more of a character again rather then a mannequin that wears our armor and weapons.

>>53209698
this shit is so much better than the P4
also the Kastaks are way too overdesigned for my tastes


I hope we get to use the Cabal bolters in Destiny 2

>>53210279
I know that pistol is xbox fuck hueg, but he has plenty of room on his belt to hang it if he would just move some of his pouches, geeze.

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>>53208377

>>53209783

John Scalzi, Old Man's War

It was his first novel and by far his best. He turned into an SJW and most of his work since is crap.

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Hey guys, this seems to be the right thread to ask :
Does someone have any ideas for futuristic melee weapons?
Any idea is welcome, but bonus points for those based in technology we already have or are developing.

>>53208919
A gun version of the Wand of Wonder from DnD?

Not a bad idea.

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>>53208919
That seems the type of shit that a Final Fantasy protagonist would use.

>>53208506
Mass Effect guns worked using a block of matter that got tiny fragments shaved/fragmented off it for bullets, which were then accelerated via a small mass effect field to be shot. You only had to replace the block out pretty infrequently (never, in terms of gameplay) and only had to worry about overheating.

>>53217111

Well, a vibro sword would be one idea.

I had an idea for power armored soldiers that used vibro cutting tools used to cut the hauls of ships but repurposed into a weapon. It basically worked like a turkey carver only far more rugged.

You could probably get really fancy with the idea somehow like some kind of metal that will vibrate rapidly when exposed to a certain frequency or something like that.

>>53217111
Theres a book series I read where they have knives (they call "bioware blades") with a channel along the blade about .5 cm in from the edge, and if that part hits flesh it releases an agent, either chemical or biological, that can be incapacitating or extra lethal. The one I remember had "Adoracion Hemorrhagic Fever", a disease that caused all your blood vessels to burst over the course of 5 min or so.

>>53210146
Fuck, just look at the Iron Lords.

>be badasses
>everyone talking them up all the time
>all armed with Gjallarhorns
>go to fight SIVA
>suck and die

I'll give them props for their balls and for the necessary role they played back then, but we've come a long way since then.

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>>53208404
>It's another le mask and hood combo

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>>53218245

You seem perturbed, why so fellow anon?

>>53218210
Nevermind the fact they had to fight their way through whatever Rasputin threw at them before they even reached the Siva replication complex. Rasputin went full tilt on them and even commanded SIVA to deal with them. I can only wonder what the fight up to SIVA must have been like.

>>53218288
Because I don't like it and destiny amplified the shitty trend

>>53210886
Well, to be fair, the Cabal we fight at the moment are little more than a standard scout legion.

I'm still sad Destiny 2 isn't "Destiny - The Darkness Rising." Zavala told me "in the Darkness Rising, more fleets will come."

>>53211744
It's less a cylinder and more a canister full of... Glimmer, I guess.

>>53218288
On one hand, I do get that. I would love to see what the whole fight looked like, I'll be honest.

But saying Rasputin three everything at them also doesn't impress me because he's entirely useless at even defending himself. Great for cyberwarfare and super weapons, but I am not overly impressed by what we've seen him do so far. Maybe that'll change in the Destiny 2 DLC about him.

>>53218611

It was less then half if you think about it. How much did he throw at the Darkness before realizing he couldn't do jack shit to it? Nevermind 700 years of various aliens and bandits breaking in and fucking up his stuff while he squirrled himself away after re-writting his protocols to nope out.

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>>53209408
This guy gets it. Golden Age Humanity was advanced to the point where it's weapons only looked like the ones we use today for ergonomic reasons. There's no reason to assume they function in a similar manner, with the possible exception of the shotguns.

Hell, some of the flavor text for one of the assault rifles kinda confirms the theory.

"The City can't rely on a steady supply of programmable matter, so the multirole AR3 uses it only sparingly."
-- Cydonia AR-3

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>>53209617
Smartmatter, son

>>53209392
Smartmatter is so important to the city that they call it "Glimmer" and use it as currency, at least for Guardians.

>>53218210
>>53218288
>>53218611
It was less SIVA the Iron Lords fought and more the direct merciless wrath of Rasputin controlling a massive military complex. He sent legions of war frames after them, and bombarded them from orbit with his antimatter death lasers. Rasputin in the Cosmodrome has a lot less to work with defense wise, so he just laid low there.

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>>53210279

>>53218689
True, true. I don't want to sound like I'm belittling either Rasputin or the Iron Lords- it's more that modern guardians, or at least the Lord Guardian (which is the PC's lore title, apparently), are insanely badass. The Iron Lords and Rasputin both did really awesome, amazing stuff, but I feel like times have changed.

>>53211825
because the glass is offset inside the scope
because the bullets are repelled by mass and curve upwards
because it's scoped for your balls at 20 metres

take your pick and fuck off

>>53210179
because automatic pistols with buttstocks were never a thing

>>53218611
>Destiny 2 isn't even out yet
>Already talking about the DLC

God, this is depressing the hell out of me.

>>53217111
Well for power armor simple large warhammer with conical or pyramidal striking head will be pretty ok. It will absolutely murder anyone not in power armor and will be able to open the cans. Also most walls and doors won't stand for long - unless we are talking bunker type.

Plasma cutters should be effective too. They also can be used as tools for welding or cutting through doors/walls.

>>53218769
>cooling coils in front of the sights
at least now the guardsmen can have something to blame for inacuraccy

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>>53219337
I honestly prefer that model to 12 months of nothing. Anyway the first two are going to be Osiris and then Rasputin based, going by the icons.

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>>53218431
>not liking hoods.

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>>53220085
What is that supposed to be, the main character of Assassins Creed 12?

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>>53220399

I think it's from either Battlefield or Cow of doody.

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When it comes to aesthetics, how do you like your materiel? 'Futuristic' and over designed? Sleek and simple? More 'practical' looking?

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>>53221505

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>>53221547

>>53219337
Hey, I just know it exists. And I mean fuck, lots of people talk about DLC like its the devil, but it just feels like an expansion I don't need to go to the store for.

Cut content or on-disc DLC can go fuck itself, though.

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>>53221505

All of them have their place but there is something particularly enduring about mixing archaic and high tech into a single form.

I love the idea of a dude in high tech armor wearing a ram skull on his head and fashioning them into their weapons and armor (like turning a thigh bone into a barrel shroud)

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>>53221554

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>>53221547

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>>53221676

Close enough.

That said, it would be cool if they had Grecian themed armor like Spartans or whatever

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>>53221694

>>53211332
That's a robot?
What's the difference between a sufficiently cyborg cyborg?
Anyway, that's an animal? To me this could be sentient as well. And wearing some sort of bullet proof suit with nanosilk wings.

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Hand nukes = Amazballs

>>53211310
>Eclipse Phase

>>53222068
Nice to give the enemy a big giant blue aiming point along with a helpful reminder of when you plan to reload.

>Be Destiny 2
>Look Up
>Stars start winking out
>It's not any sort of magic
>It's just the Cabal's main fleet

>>53208906
Would you Expedition of the Thousand IN SPESS??

>>53221332
The Ghost Recon/Assassin's Creed crossover. They mostly made it to sell an overpriced jacket.

>>53223537

>>53209864
I like to think that this thing was actually designed by a Swiss guy who then sold the idea to the Germans because the damn guts of the thing look like what you would find in a very intricate clock.

>>53210500
What Font did you use on that? It looks great.

>>53224890
Universalis ADF

>>53211289
Do you have the artist's name/website for this one?

>>53225092

http://crazyasian1.deviantart.com/

>>53222289
im pretty sure thats AR, anon

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>>53222482
Fuck yes I would

>>53221602
The helical mag is kinda cool, but I'd love to see what a traditional mag fed variant of that would look like, toggle-lock and all

>>53225297
Are you sure? I just checked and didn't see the Risk of Rain picture there.

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>>53225522
Thought you were referring to the picture that guy was responding to. Disregard.

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>>53221586
That mix of archaic and high tech is one of the reasons I like Warframe.

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>>53208883
>>53208906
>When the humans actually spend money to provide you with a nice 1:1 hologram of the wearer's skull so you know exactly where to put the bullet

>>53211255
Isn't that the Tom Cruise emily blunt movie

>>53226204
It's based of it, yeah.

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>best gun in the series
>never get to use it

>>53209870
Tell that to Belisarius.

>>53209857
I've never lost interest in something this quickly

>>53209948
That's why Rome is such a good example. We have so many examples of natural born children fucking up to contrast the adopted heirs to.

>>53209892
Wormhole's fine.Do run through stars pretty quickly though.

>>53208377
I just came here to say that Omolon Hand Cannons are trash and some of the worst-designed weapons in Destiny.

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>>53209864

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>>53237889
Wolfenstein had a lot of cool weapons

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>bullets
>bullets
>smart
>bullets
>smart
>bullets
>bullets
>bullets
At least nobody's mentioned clips yet.

>>53240375
Has /k/ decided bullet is a no-no now too?

>>53210179
Noguns tries to sound smart: The Post

>>53217111
A liquid you keep is a special sheath, it gives a blade a mono molecular edge, effectively turning it into a light saber. needs to be redipped every few swings to keep the edge.

only works on blades created to work with the liquid.

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>>53241287

I was thinking for an idea like this albeit with far more magic involved. Basically it would be an alchemical way to have the typical "magic sword"

You have a special blade and sheath that takes in replaceable resevoir of a blade oil that activates when you draw the blade. One oil causes the blade to super heat in contact with the air. Another is to have a special stone that stores kinetic energy in the hilt and then releases it into the blade and another was to have blades with tiny holes to pour essentially liquid nitrogen into the wound

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Anyone else out there have the same hard on for Deus Ex's aesthetics as I do?

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>>53241982
Also, this thread has given me some cool stuff I might use in Starfinder later on this year. What does /tg/ think of Pathfinder in space?

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>>53242011

>>53216462
>sjw is a word I use for things I don't like.
Okay, Cucky Snowflake of the Safe Zone Millenial Brigade. :^]

>>53241982
The Diamondback is one my all time favorites.

>>53242350
Mah nigga.

>>53211332
The pictures were made for an emdangered animal charity, numbnuts

>>53217111
Piezoelectric motors in the gauntlet automatically react every time a punch is landed, forcefully ejecting a compact shaped charge from a dispenser that runs the length of the forearm. The explosive sticks to the adversary through a nanotechnological adhesion pad, and can be fused to detonate after a set time (milliseconds to seconds) or when it reaches a certain distance from the dispenser, giving the wielder the opportunity to get some distance.

Will blast through powered armor, light armored fighting vehicles, and most doors and barriers. Will vaporize unarmed opponents. Learning less conventional hand-to-hand techniques like push kicks can be useful for opening up gaps between the enemy to allow the safe detonation of the shaped charge. Fighting style prioritizes opening holes in the opponent's guard, hitting vital areas (power plants, sensors, pilots), controlling the distance of the fight (especially keeping a distance from similarly armed adversaries), and drills for rapidly reloading the dispenser and clearing jams in combat.

>>53242091
>50x10^63 kJ

wtf thats like a universe exploding

>>53243748
You're not far off. That's 1.25% of the estimated total sum of energy in the entire universe... I don't know what's in that thing but it's going to go bang very very loudly.

>>53244819
Put that away anon. Somebody might get accidentally de-atomized.

>>53209623
>In the context I had it drawn for, autorevolvers are preferred because women dominate the military, and the lighter trigger pull makes the gun much more user friendly.

>a heavy gun that slams a lot of mass back and forth high above the axis of your arm is preferable because of the "light trigger pull"

Absolutely retarded.

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>>53244846
I'll atomize whoever I want to fucker

>>53209805
Trenchbreakers pls leave.

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if you ever want to punch a hole through 70km of solid metal

>>53246697

What was the other series where the guy shot down nukes with a sniper rifle that literally caused earthquakes and a tsunami with it's recoil?

>>53240388
/k/ decides nothing. The God of War occasionally condescends to the mortal plane to elevate certain prime intellects he favors among the rabble and they educate the others using the greatest weapon system mankind has ever devised: memes.

>>53247210
Biomega

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>>53247433
>The God of War occasionally condescends to the mortal plane

Only the God of War can afford to be so smug

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>>53245044
Keep waving that thing around and I'll have to use my disintegrating pistol, and when it disintegrates, it disintegrates!

>>53208883
>>53208906
>The year 30XX and you're still using an AR in a body kit.

>>53209623
Aren't revolvers notorious for being one of the heaviest handguns in the world with regards to firepower? Wouldn't a 9mm, the pistol used by the us armed services because of women being introduced, be more fitting?

>>53255347

Uh, revolvers are chambered in a rainbow of such wildly varying cartridges that the power & recoil are the least consistent things about them.

There are even, *gasp*, revolvers in 9mm exactly like the handguns!

Actually .357 magnum is a 9mm cartridge too, although it's rimmed and has more powder capacity. You can load it identically if you wanted to.

Also 9mm was not introduced for female shooters. That's just hilariously wrong, for two reasons:
1. There were no female combatants when it was introduced in 1902 and used in WW1.
2. The US handgun in 9mm, the M9, has an Xbox Heug grip that is uncomfortable unless you have bigger, manlier hands than most male soldiers and Marines.

>>53255347
>because of women being introduced
Can't tell if trolling or ignorant of military acquisition procedures.

>>53242196

No, SJW is the word I use for the guy who, as president of the Science Fiction Writers of America, arranged to not give Hugos in key categories one year because otherwise books and short stories by conservatives or Libertarians would win. And I don't mean alt-right radicals, I'm talking moderate center right writers who'd happened to win. If a liberal can't win, then fuck the fans and fuck the writers, in Scalzi's world.

I love liberal writers like Clarke, Asimov, Silverberg, etc., but Scalzi's the first to actually wage war against his fellow writers on the basis of ideology. Even Harlan Ellison, who is a raging ideologue, would never have crossed that line.

>>53225597
>.50 cal

>>53209864
>single shot
>three round burst
>50 round burst
holy shit

>>53210474
>tactical tampon

>>53246697
>>53247210
>>53247525
Coincidentally both by nihei tsutomu. His stuff's got that wonderful biological horror aspect.

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>>53257211
Is that the PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY shotgun?

>>53261113
Yeah. And hey, we might even some gameplay this E3.

>>53261113

The gauss gun looks like it should be far more unwieldy then it looks because of how long it looks, maybe it's the perspective I guess.

Welp, image limit so I just link the last image I wanted to post: https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/004/949/904/large/gregor-kopka-chaingun-base-ingame.jpg?1487411746

>>53261130
Fucking finally.

>>53261131
Nothing is really unwieldy in the hands of Doomguy.

>>53259756
Actually, it's a negative 50 round burst

You restore 50 rounds of ammo

What do you think about melee focused scifi worlds?
I got this idea, where the planet is super rough and rocky (or something like that), there's barely any flat surface, so close quarters fighting in tight spaces is what usually occurs. This places a greater emphasis on mobility and melee/close quarters combat, which is why you can see dudes in jetpacks swinging electric swords and stuff like that. Guns still exist, but the most common ones are small carbines or handguns.

>>53262466
I just have the amor in my setting be too much for military-grade armor outside of support weapons (which are crazy shit like small casaba howitzers and c-fractional railguns), so you only see small arms in security/police situations, while when the big boys play, your seeing a medley of futuristic swords, axes, and war picks, complemented by suit-mounted micro missiles and fuck-off huge support guns.

>>53210886
Did you not hear that a Cabal Battleship reactor could vape HALF the solar system? Cabal own a large chunk of the Milky Way.

>>53262466
It's fun and welcome change

In a setting with guns, I feel you must establish a requisite for:
speed, safety, stealth, or scarcity (not exclusive 'or')
These are the situations that allow non-ballistics.
Speed is what happens when people can leap around and scare the everloving fuck out of each other by "jumping" into melee range. Surprise!
Safety is "M.A.D."--if a ballistic misses its target, it risks killing everyone, like in some smaller space vehicles. Or, in a Dune type of way, detonating a man-bomb.
Stealth is old as time. Even suppressed gunfire will make noise.
Scarcity is cost, and this is why many post-apoc settings abstain from plentiful gunplay.

I use alliteration a lot in my RPG design so please forgive me

>>53263772
are you talking about the Dreadnought
because that was not a Cabal ship
>>53210886
won the battle, lost the war etc etc
makes me wonder why didn't the other dudes just stride up to the City and burn it all down
well, I guess the Fallen did try that once