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>>53189680

You know I'm looking at the size of the new Bloodthirster and Lord of Change and I don't really think next edition's greater daemons are going to be T6 anymore

Anyone have a building/painting playlist? Need some new jams

>>53195538
Depends, what kind of music are you into?

>>53195538
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhG6Qaij7VE&list=PLwNcU6UOEFaxMVCHUYQqWRTXJaBFUs2Qp

Link related is pretty good.

Personally I like to listen to political and news commentary while I paint.

>>53195538
With the new rules I'd expect most MC to get a toughness boost, to bring them on the level of the Orkanaut
After all, for strict game rules and effects, knights and such are now the MC for armies that can't have them

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>>53195508
>>when you only just now realize it's an apothecary securing some progenoid and not a chilled out bro popping the top off a refreshing battle-brewski.

>>53195564
It was meant for >>53195531

>>53195555
open to anything m8, just gimme some jams

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>>53195531
I'm hoping my C'tans will be durable this edition now that lasguns can hurt it.

>>53195531

One of the funniest examples I've seen of someone complaining about 8th was them giving the example of guardsmen killing a bloodthirster. If only they knew the pain.

Bloodthirsters and Daemons Princes should never have been T6/5 and W5/4 in the first place. Especially with only a 3+ armour (that you need to pay for on the DP).

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>>53195531
I think that's reasonable. Guilliman is T6, right? The new greater daemons are way more ripped than him.

>>53195591
Miles Davis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fbUvTkPsl4
Sonny Rollins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UA2XIWZxMKM&list=PL4AC21DCC4CB449B6
FKA Twigs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOlAd5bG_Zk&list=PLrLtXKy4bEgofZro5l0BfycOA8UFP3yv6
Massive Attack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEgX64n3T7g&list=PLDA9367A534CF2984
Morcheeba
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uMGH3kHhzM&list=PLsh-NehfSG1GX9hy7emnL1R8bc3-cn0j3
Of Monsters and Men
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghb6eDopW8I&list=PL3WXjGTvK6cz_8qhgAgrMu2KrbPLDpbKq

>>53195643
>listens-to-jazz-once.txt

>>53195538
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQL53eQ0cNA

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when

>>53195564
kastelan robots may be God tier. if they get a wounds buff and keep the twin linked weapons that's 18 phosphor shots (currently s7 ap3), and the datasmiths haywire and melts attacks with splitfire from a unit that just won't fucking die.

>>53195717
today
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-FR/Grav-Chute-Pack-of-10

>>53195763
Those aren't jump packs though
Personally I don't think IG needs jump pack infantry. Space Marines are for that.

>>53195772
rather jump packs than horses

>>53195778
Fuck you Cavalry is great, I just wish they got new models

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>>53195778
confirmed pleb taste

>>53195717

Oh fuck the Brellian 7th are canon?

Okay but seriously, whilst jump guard -in general as a galaxy wide thing- isn't a good concept, I would be 100% for a specific planet that has access to that kinda shit, kinda like how the Death Korps are their own army.

>>53195778
>>53195791
>>53195795

Girls, girls quit fighting: We can have horses -with- jump packs.

>>53195791
Just use the Krieg ones, they're way cooler anyway.

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>>53195796

>>53195805
they are cool, but they wouldn't fit in with my Steel Legion models.
And they're expensive af

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Is Captain Darius of the Dark Angels the most worthless Space Marine that has ever existed?
I mean, fuck. This guy is such a fucking pussy.

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>>53195814
that chest thing looks like this gas mask

>>53195803
Don't give them new ideas for the shpess woofs.

>>53195814

Why the -fuck- are you even pretending the Elysians are remotely relevant to the idea of a jump pack using guard regiment?

Those fucks have parachutes.

>>53195821
Hello ShareBlue!

>>53195821
>an US

Confirmed frog.

Hope the kroot have good stats, I love those damn hounds

>>53195885
Clearly he's talking about Trudeau, because as people in the US are next to Canada, they have been able to study him more closely than Macron.

>>53195898
Wait this reminds me, when the fuck are they going to give tau bigger transports? or at least bring back the Orca

What do you guys think about Black Templars? Starting my first force of them next week.

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>>53195853

>>53195932
They're great if you're into eating dick.

>>53195932
Can't really say because 8th ed, land raider crusaders are getting a lot more powerful though so there's that.

>>53195942
Thats a drop-pack you moron, AKA a grav-CHUTE. As it says in your image name

any idea what eldar are gonna be like? i am complete noob <3

>>53195815
Krieg and Steel Legion don't look that far off though, both rock gas masks and greatcoats.

>>53195976
good. becuase they always are good

>>53195978
i love the gas mask and greatcoat look, although i think i prefer steel legion *slightly* over krieg <3

>>53195971
One teensy tiny rules change and a little retcon is all you need, the models are already there.

>>53195932
i've always dreamt of a black swarm of crusaders and terminators on foot

>>53195976
Go on Warhammer community there is a Eldar focus

>>53195989
>Oh sure, i am right, all you need to do is change reality
LMAO

>>53195978
I know right, DKOK used to be represented by Steel Legion models before Forge World made their own.

Anyone got any idea where I could find a pdf of imperial propaganda posters and such I could print out and stick on my terrain?

>>53195990
List I have is 30 Crusaders in 3 Land Raider Crusaders. ALL with CCW and Bolt Pistol.

>>53195983
xD

>>53196028
that's great too

>>53195995
where is this? :3 <3

>>53195932
I kinda want to do a horde of Black Templars in Land Raiders, but I already have a mostly black army in my Sisters of Battle.
Also I'm not sure if it makes sense to use legion models to represent a non-legionary force.

>>53195538
When I'm painting with my friend we usually listen to some sweet metal sounds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrJAwCBbnuc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGV6bCTMM5w

But I prefer game soundtracks when alone since they're usually written to help you focus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38TA-X0dXr4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMxo_3oHULE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0nhf1xl0Rg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt5Mxm7BPhM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB6sOhQan9Y

Have fun

>>53196040
On the Warhammer Community website
Just google it on the interwebz

>>53196078
He is clearly jsut fishing for (you)s

Can't wait to play my first game with mechanized guard
My first few games trying to do blobs kinda ended in misery and sadness

>>53196116
Blobs are fine, they just need equiping correctly
Obviously, all best are off come the 16th of june

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>Brings a Titan formation to a "narrative" game
>T 20
>W 50
>SV 2+
>each
>Opponent sends fabious bile into combat with them
>he hits first due to assaulting
>hits
>wounds on 6+ (because everything can do that in 8th
>I fail my save
>His weapon is Instant Death
>Remove Titan from the field
>Remove other 2 Titans after failing battle shock

Even heretics loves 8th.

Seems like eldar is getting massive buffs again. No, its not due to the new system, as they released deathguard stats, and they were neither better nor worse, just different.

Striking scorpion mandibles now deal 8th ed's "D" damage - mortal wounds.

Seems like they want everyone to just play eldar and nothing else.

In b4 cruddace nerfs nids again.

Daily reminder that 8th is false hope, the system will be even more broken than before as writers buff their favourite armies and nerf those they dislike.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/11/warhammer-40000-faction-focus-eldar/

>>53195821
Thanks for Correcting The Record.™

>>53196128
I only had 40 guardsmen and their command squads. And yeah I didn't have enough special weapons.
Trying to use only Steel Legion minifigures my choices are Grenade Launchers or Plasma Guns.

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>>53196138

>>53195990
seems you want salamanders instead

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>>53196138
>In b4 cruddace nerfs nids again

>>53196135
Think this might actually be my favourite pasta of all time
Truly, Fabius Bile vs Titans is my lasagna

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>>53196135

>>53196150
Lizards are so ghey though.

>>53196135
It's funny because those are Knights, not Titans.

>>53196150
>salamanders
>crusaders
shitty joke, retard

>>53196138
Depending on how many wounds they can actually dish out they might actually be countered by blobs. A unit dealing 3 or 4 mortal wounds isn't doing much to a unit of 40.

Who am I kidding, they'll have something to counter blobs too

>>53196183
yeah how about those 4 S4 ap5 attacks per scorpion

>>53196138
>5 mortal wounds before you can fight, assumeing 1 mortal wound per bloke
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
AHAHAHA
HAHAHA
HA
HA
kill me now

>>53196165
Actually, they are Knight titants
:^)

>>53196138

They won't be doing one auto-mortal-wound per guy, don't worry. That'd instagib an entire squad of marines before they even had a chance to fight back.

>>53196258
that's just scorpions. they also mention howling banshees always striking first even if they don't charge, IE rest in pieces orks and berzerkers AGAIN

>hmmmm everyone is playing with only scatbikes, how do we fix this?
>MAKE EVERYTHING AS GOOD AS SCATBIKES

>>53196311

Orks will probably still shrek banshees tbqh, S3 doesn't get you very far against a T4 horde army.

Agreed that Berserkers will have a mite of trouble, though.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/12/warhammer-40000-faction-focus-heretica-sororitas/

HOLY SHIT CHAOS SISTERS

Man, the four-shot predator annialator is look quite awesome.

Really hoping the vanquisher can compete

>>53196339

Look at this dreamer.

Orks has been shit 7 editions straight mate, what makes you remotely dream that anything will change?

If an Ork boy can beat a dire avenger, you should be very happy and count your blessings. Beating a banshee or scorpion? You can throw that out of the window.

>>53196358

Nobody likes a whiner, anon.

Orks were fine in 4th/5th.

>>53196352
Oh wow those new models look sick.

>>53196367
But even less people like eldar players. My club has straight up banned them. Looks like the ban will continue into 8th.

>>53196352
>>53196377
This shitpost doesn't work as well when you post it several hours before GW even posts anything.

>>53196385
>it's an anon lies on the internet episode

>>53196385
>My club has straight up banned them
Thats untrue

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>>53196352

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/12/warhammer-40000-character-hobbies-focus-XXX-amateur-holovid-macha/

HOLY SHIT NUDE ELDAR

>>53195570
FUCK

>>53196400
kek

>>53196358
ork boy is not suppose to beat banshee or scorpion?

>>53196339
>>53196358
6 point orkz aren't meant to best elite melee specialists. An ork wins by drowning you in his own blood and that of his mates.

>>53196391
Lel. To time it would take too much effort.

>>53196339
>plastic banshees get released
>option for power axes for the whole unit

>>53196452

Pity that hasn't worked for two editions now

>>53196352
You need to make it more believable

start by posting near the release hour, try to not make your claim ridiculous to begin with and bonus point for a fake screenshot of a paragraph of text or weapon profile

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/12/meet-new-black-library-authors-rhianna-pratchett-chuck-wendig/

>asurman

>>53196456
When shitposting you may as well go all the way and make it believable. Otherwise it's just spam.

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>>53196138

i remember farseer on jetbike being hilarious, is this still the case?

>>53196311
I'm not sure an eldar army consisting entirely of howling banshees is going to be competitive to beat.

If the army doesn't entirely consist of howling banshees then just charge another unit.

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Anyone actually thinks we are getting a full plastic range miniatures for Sisters of Battle?

I don't mostly because I have been hearing this rumor since Witch Hunters when everyone and their mothers was getting at least the troop choice in plastic.

Check out my sick nasty tu shan. I think it turned out great.
http://imgur.com/a/U7FrD

>>53196554

As soon as we get plastic IG regiments never

I'm almost worried what GW will do to my Vanguards at this point. Rad Poisoning is probably going to be changed to "do d3 damage" or some shit.

>>53196573
>damage d3 basic guns

sounds good to me

>>53196559
THIN

>>53196554
Yes

this time is the time

>>53196559
Nice meme
for a loser

>>53196583
Except as they are now if you roll two 6s you can kill 4 models, with d3 damage you'll only kill two.

It would be making them worse against other infantry but possibly better against multi-wound targets, but there's plenty of other things int he army to deal with those already.

>>53196559
Sweet tupac bro

>>53196559
>I think it turned out great

that one actually hurts

>>53196554

It's become a lot like Winds of Winter for me, if it's ever released I'll buy it and enjoy it, but I'm content with the models I have for now and have no real belief they'll ever get made.

>>53196138
>as they released deathguard stats, and they were neither better nor worse, just different.
Wait, what did I miss now?

>>53196680
Nothing, it's just the sound of his ass-flapping in the wind.

>>53196680
nothing
he's lying

>>53196559

ill post a blog to make up for this heresy.

deespaintfilledhellhole blogspot co uk/search/label/Steel%20Legion

>>53196680
He's probably talking about the rubrics, that (just rulewise, without knowing how much the unit and its weapons cost) have gotten much better, but since his a mouth breathing retard he got them confused

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>>53195598
You could always just stick them in a floating pyramid of doom. That should up their durability.

>>53196311
no they said they will almost always strike first except when they are charged

>>53196783
>Howling Banshees get a new lease on life too. These girls are now faster than almost any other Infantry unit in the game, and nearly always get to go first in the Fight phase even if they didn’t charge.

>>53196568
oh god im hoping for plastic steel legion or vostroyans

>>53196783
>These girls are now faster than almost any other Infantry unit in the game, and nearly always get to go first in the Fight phase *even if they didn’t charge.*

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>>53196601
Now begins the age of rangers.

>>53196822
With luck Rangers will be fairly quick and work like shorter range snipers, able to target characters even if they aren't the closest unit.

>>53196763
Oh, I've been waiting for DG updates since that teaser video. But yeah, the rubrics got a huge buff, so that statement didn't make sense for them either.

Speaking of DG, I really hope we get T6 or something. It'd be the same against most weapons, but at least make lasguns and similar small arms fire 6+ rather than 5+.

>>53196802
>>53196813
I guess Burnaz will have a main target while the boyz assault the rest of the army

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>>53196554

Keep the faith.

>>53196135
I'm pretty sure that Instant Death will not exist anymore in 8th.

>>53196882
Or warbikers, s3 vs t5 means the banshees will be in for a very drawn out fight, and if they disengage they get twinlinked s5 dakkaguns in the face.

>>53196887

Force weapons now do D3 damage so it goes without saying.

>>53196893

str 3 against t5 is the same as against t4 now.

plus they may have cast Doom on your unit so in most cases the banshees would make short work of those bikes.

>>53196138
They won't be doing mortal wounds automatically.

It'll be regular damage, then mortal wounds on 6s.

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>Magos stumbles upon some ancient writings from the Horus Heresy while on a routine mission in the hellscape that is the catacombs of Mars
>it seems to be a journal kept by a Magos during the Horus Heresy, neato!
>pours over the texts, trying to find any hint at lost human technology
>texts are mostly boring shit, Magos whining that all the Admech bitches all ignore him because Grand Magos Chad has a 12 inch vibrating servo-cock
>the journal starts to detail the ancient Magos's exploration into the Mars catacombs
>he seems to have gone deeper than has been recorded in living history
>and he found something...terrible
>generic "it was so bad but I can't write it down I gotta go to X place to confirm" quest breadcrumb text goes here

>journal leads Magos to a Dead World, backed up by a battalion of his finest Skitarii
>ravings about metal men, a dragon sleeping under Mars who lords over technology, wtf is this fucking bullshit

>but no, wait, here's something
>Magos finds a gigantic metal triangle
>holy shit, this journal isn't full of shit
>death rays capable of atomizing men and reducing even the Titans into dust
>power sources that still run, despite the fact that they were already ancient when Mankind was still bound to Terra
>and most impressive of all
>metal men who have conquered death itself!

>Magos ascends to the top of the triangle in his mad quest for knowledge, he needs to know how he can harness this great power

I'm sure you all know where this is going.

Magos wakes up Overlord (who is, luckily, pretty sane and rational compared to some other Necrons), Overlord and him have a little chat, Overlord tells him all about the great Void Dragon who sleeps under Mars, Magos' entire reality is shattered, Magos pledges himself and his men to the true Omnissiah, as well as the Omnissiah's chosen robot zombie children.

Thinking of making a Necron/Admech force with the latter converted to be more Necron-y (basically Necron tech cultists). What do you think?

>>53197036
TLDR

>>53196135
at least we get funny fabulous bob memes out of this forced shitpasta

>>53196884
I can only make my Shield of Faith save for so long

>>53197036
I like this story. Seems kinda fitting into the lore, but you should work on that "overlord and him had a little chat". Probably necrons would have been pissed off at magos.

>>53196554

when will sisterfags realize that no one significant care for their fetish-faction?

>>53197043
TL;DR: Admech/Skitarii end up on a Necron tomb world and end up becoming a Necron tech-cult who worship the TRUE Omnissiah.

orginal oc donut steal

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>>53197053

Faith is purest when it is unquestioning.

>>53197036
I fucking dig it. Make it happen friendo

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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/12/new-warhammer-40000-points-may12gw-homepage-post-4/

Kinda early... but meh

>>53197077
>Not sure if being rused

Post more screenshots.

>>53197077
>this much dedication to shitposting
it would be funny if it weren't so sad

>>53197077
>comma before and
Urgh, like sand in the socks.

>>53197077
Lol its true upgrades are free.

>>53197018
We don't know yet
We just know they can do mortal wounds, but we don't know how
Maybe they will deal d6 mortal wounds each on the charge, or they will only be able to do that on a 6 on a full moon night while fighting a Dark Eldar army composed only of vehicles

We'll have to wait and see, without considering it the Armageddon or a barely notable breeze

Unless they answered about it in the facebook comments and because of that I've looked like an idiot, but I'd say it's unlikely, since when you anke questions like that they always answer "Wait and see"

>>53197077
Please be a troll.

>>53197133
It is. Besides the fuck up yesterday they don't release shit for another hour.

>>53197133
Considering, the English is terrible. I would have to conclude, that this is a troll.

>>53197061
Yeah I was running out of room and wanted to contain my shitty OC to one post.

Basically the chat would go more or less like

>Overlord wakes up, is feeling good because he had a nice nap
>decides to fuck with MonKeigh before he kills him
>ask Magos what he's doing in his kingdom, what he hopes to accomplish, basic questions
>Magos can't contain his throbbing techno boner
>answers Overlord at face value, also constantly gushes over how awesome their tech is
>Overlord decides that he likes this kid
>this kid sees it how it is
>maybe I'll talk to him a little longer

>they start talking about the journal, Magos mentions the unanswered questions about the slumbering dragon
>Overlord tells him about the Ctan, talks them up to be divine beings, leaves out the part about how they're now star-eating pokemon
>tells Magos that they actually share the same God, the great Mag'ladroth, he who sleeps below Mars

>Magos' entire world is shattered
>decides to pledge himself to the TRUE Omnissiah, and therefore to the Omnissiah's chosen people

>>53197123
nice try

>>53197133
>>53197087
it's a troll. If it wasn't he would have posted the rest of the article by now. Plus the english is worse than mine which says a lot
I've got to admit this one is nicely done, the attention to detail is impressive.
>gr8 b8 on the 8th m8 I r8 8/8

>>53197149
Actually, they usually release at 2 or around, that's 3 minutes from now.

>>53197190

>Considering the English is terrible

That's attention to detail. Have you read anything by the GW team?

>>53197233

No, they started releasing at 2, then shifted to a 3 o'clock release scedule.

>>53197233
more between 1pmUTC and 2pmUTC I'd say, and closer to 2pmUTC than 1pm.

>>53197243
One of the oldest meme. Native English speaking people can't write or speak proper English.

When things like Ship, cheap, chip, sheep, exist

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>Mortal Wounds ignore saves
>still have to chew through all the target's wounds
>MFW the D vs vehicles and MC's has been completely gutted but buffed to all heck vs infantry and characters
>MFW I'm guard and I roll Russes with 12 wounds and giant 50-man blobs that can wound titans now

>>53197036
>>53197202
>the great Mag'ladroth
is that the official Void Dragon name?
I like the idea

>>53197243
Which are the mistakes there? Help I wanna improve my Engurisu

I wonder what will happen when all these IG players will discover lasguns are still shit

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Will multimelta be two shots or 2d6 wounds

how would haywire work in 8th

>>53197333
Inflicts mortal wounds on units with the VEHICLE keyword

>>53197330
Why not just double range still

>>53197330
no

>>53197330

24 inch range.

Multi-meltas have always been a two barrelled melta that inexplicably doubles range.

>>53197356
wider beam=heated gas can travel further without losing effect

>>53197327

>Now wounds ork and SM bikers on 5s instead of 6s
>Can pick off large models on a couple of wounds
>Orders now go off automatically, vox caster will now have a different roll
>FRFSRF now spits out 4 shots each @ 12"
Nope.

>>53197333
it wouldn't, they replace it with something else entirely. Maybe weapons will just have more strength, or will have a special rule to imobilize vehicle for a turn, or they will deal mortal wounds for vehicle only, etc.

>>53197376
>be me
>shoot a blob of 30 guardsmen into 5 marines
>kill 3
this won't change

>>53197376
>200 shots at shortrange vs a leamon
>100 hits
>15 wound
>5 wounds out of 12
Not so great for 50 dudes

>200 shots at shortrange vs bikes
>100 hits
>33 wounds
>11 kills
bretty good

>>53197391

Why would you fire lasuns at something that isn't economic for it's worth?
Leave killing marines to whatever is the new MEQ killer.

>>53197428
Fuck man, with the new rules, 10 marines sitting in even light cover Vs the same, kills less than 1 marine per turn. Combined with the new combi-weapon rules, and The day of non-special weapon infantry is gone

>>53197428
i'd rather shoot at something than nothing, fucktard

>>53197376
>Now wounds ork and SM bikers on 5s instead of 6s
Brace yourselves, better saves for bikes (instead of +1T) and 2W Orks are coming
>Can pick off large models on a couple of wounds
after he lodt 2W to your 100 shots, said large model can then proceed to make half your blob disappear in a red mist
>Orders now go off automatically, vox caster will now have a different roll
Pretty sure you'll still need them nearby to carry out orders did they say otherwise on FB?
>FRFSRF now spits out 4 shots each @ 12"
Good luck putting your 50 conscript blob at 12" of a titan unharmed

Don't get me wrong, lasgun is better than before. But it is still an anti-(light-)infantry weapon (and even then, only good when massed), and people trying to spam lasguns because "they can now wound Titans" will be massacred by d6 auto-wound flamers and other big guns before they can deal 2 wounds to the big guys

>>53197391
>27 lasguns
>no penalty for packing your men like mad so form ranks like it's 1799
>FIRST RANK! FIRE!
>roll a pile of 30 dice
>SECOND RANK! FIRE!
>roll another pile of 30 dice.
>continue rolling dice until you've rolled 108 times
>average 54 hits, 18 wounds
>kill 6 marines
>that tactical squad has taken half casualties from one volley from a not-even-full-size platoon

Looks like it's changing to me.

>>53197345
For gameplay reasons, I don't think it's good design to have significant bonuses against units which only appear in some forces or make some armies capable of defeating others easily.

I'm hoping that things like preferred enemy, hatred, haywire and poison will be significantly changed in the new edition and things like penalties to hit are either something everyone can do, no-one can or at least are able to be countered by armies which would be hit hardest.

>>53197428

>Why would you fire lasuns at something that isn't economic for it's worth?

Because you always quickly run out of targets it's efficient to fire lasguns at and have to start using them to do chip damage to finish things off.

Heck, they're better for that now. In this edition if an imperial-knight killing set of attacks rolls a little low and leaves it with one or two wounds left, you can try to s3 spam it to death.

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>Tfw can't Fucking decide what army I wanna start when 8th comes out

AAAAAAA THERE IS SO MANY AWESOME OPTIONS

>>53197474
buy whatever army you can find used and cheap

>>53197474
As a cat owner,that picture makes me very sad.

With the chaos shit going on, now would be the perfect time to bring back Pariahs

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>>53197503

>>53197445

>"All my targets must be tactical marines."
Great logic, dipshit.

>>53197462
>108 shots
>54 hits
I see your 27 conscrits are marksmen

>>53197508
necron pariahs? no.

>>53197533
why?

>>53197512
Unless the marine players field scouts in any great numbers, what lesser target will there be for the lasgunners when fighting a space marine army?

>>53197510
:( why you do this

>>53197522
>conscripts
If I were using conscripts there'd be 30 of them and not 27 and 3 sergeants. They're BS3, and in that volume it matters.

also I don't have enough models for serious conscript spam

>>53196138
It's hard to find the biggest loser in a /tg/ thread. Usually. Not this time.

>>53197548
so you need 3 unharmed squads to reach 12" of your target to kill 6 Marines then
wow

>>53197540
their idea was horribad to begin with

now we got newcrons, sharted c'tans etc.

>>53197474
Do what I do.

Collect all of them.

even ork shoota boyz do more damage by shooting than guardsmen will ever do

>>53197568
6 Marines in an open field*

>>53197570
>newcrons
>literally tomb kangs

>sharded c'tans
>better than living gods

The pariahs bridged the humans and necrons, making them a threat as even they could be converted into subservient machines

>>53197541

Bikes/Rhinos

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I'm a beginner 40K Tau player and pic related is my list so far (it's actually 1k points, I forgot to add the support turret). My friend gave me some of his unpainted Eldar. He gave me a Farseer, a Spiritseer, 5 Wraithguard, 5 Rangers, 10 Guardians, a Wave Serpent and 5 Dire Avengers. I want to add them onto my list but I'm not sure what I should take. I really like Wraithguard models and they kind of seem like a no brainer since they are really tough and cover the Tau's squishyness. Should I use guns or Axes+Shield? I also really like the Ranger models, would they complement the army well or do my Fire Warriors already fit that role?

>>53197558

>someone bitches about OP shit
>"lol anon ur a fukn loser XD"

Guess it's not hard to figure out which army you play.

>>53197558
Oh no a 10 man Scorpion squad does d3 mortal wounds when charging or Mandiblasters turn 6's to wound into mortal wounds or something like that. We don't know jack about how many or how frequently they can do this. We are starved for info. Until we find out more calm your self.

>>53197592
W8 4 8 M8

>>53197590
oldcrons were about wiping out life and the warp so pariahs were important to them

now there's no sense in making pariahs

>>53197592
>new
>taudar
Stop before you become fullblown cancer

I've been thinking about getting into 40k when 8th edition drops (my bank account is crying at the thought).

What is /tg/'s opinion on how to get into it? So far the Tyranids look the coolest to me, though I understand that they aren't all that competitive in 7th edition. Do most people play competitively or are there a fair number of people who just like to have fun playing with their minis?

>>53197632
Most people play non competitive.

>>53197629
But I love the models, Eldar were actually my runner up choice of army. I'm not actually a tier whore but I actually enjoy winning after spending all this money and time painting. I'm not planning on adding jetbikes btw, I don't like bike units.

As an ork player, I want go back to 6th edition when getting 29 boyz and a nob into a mob and rushin' them at them other gitz was a top notch idea. Orks are made to do those kind of things.

I think 8th edition should (maybe will) implement a system that actively rewards big mobz of boys - something like the mob rules in 6th, but beefed up.

e.g.
20+ fearless
12+ mob rules (7e version)

Or something along those lines. I paid good money for hordes and boys, and I want them to crash them onto enemy lines.
Also make deff dreads actually good, they're such a hall mark unit for the orks and I don't remember a time when they were a 'good' good unit.

>>53197632
8th edition is changing everything so I wouldn't worry about how competitive any army is right now. Just get what looks cool.

>>53197592
Rangers probably get sniper rules, which means they will fuck up enemy characters.

No way to be sure which wraithblade build will be best at this point, so probably best to hold off building them for now, but if you really, really have to, I'd go with swords because they already get plenty of strength and the invulnerable from the shield might well get nerfed.

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>>53197583
This is true. The "wall of light" is a myth. When I came to grips with this, I just accepted that my IG lists would be vehicle-heavy now and forever. Guardsman squads would be few, cheap, and only for scoring points or to delay an opponent.

>>53197603
Except that chaos has now spread throughout the galaxy and most of their anti-warp obelisks/pylons have been destryoed. The southern temporary corridor is under constant attack from demons and they are trying to protect the single pylon generating it.

Having troops to specifically combat the warp would make even more sense now.

>>53197632
It depends on your meta
Sometime you could be surrounded by WAACfag while other times the most tryhard player you see is the one that was thinking of taking a Riptide if the game was 3000+ points

The best course of action is
>when 8th edition drop wait a couple of days for the rules to be pirated and read them here
>find the army you think you may like the most
>buy a start collecting box if the army you chose has one, otherwise pick a troop choice and one HQ
>buy glue, paints and all you need to start your army

If you're used to go to a GW store or a LGS you may try to go there and see if they have more precise suggestions about the army you want

>>53197673
stop posting the same pics every day

>>53197661
Mob rule is 5th.
There was no 6th ed ork dex.

>>53197601
>until we find out more calm yourself
Exactly my point. They mentioned units eldar barely bother with in the buffs, they aren't going to mention nerfs in their faction advertisement. If someone is going to go full panic without even thinking of the situation, or acting like they know it's going to be worse than they have any way of knowing, they're a loser who wants to feel like shit. This is coming from a marine player who's happy formations are gone.

>>53197594
When the entire focus is rebalancing every unit in the game to give them all their purpose, of course they're going to talk about under-used stuff in the army. And even then, they're rebalancing the points of everything.

>>53197687
Give me some new ones then and I'll save them

>>53197673
Man those misfitted track guards and undrilled barrels annoy me.

People like that should have their army take away by the MPS

>>53197685
>when 8th edition drop wait a couple of days for the rules to be pirated and read them here
didn't they say the rules would be free? Or am I thinking of something else?

>>53197682
no. most necrons don't give a fuck about those things

>>53197077
>Article doesn't immediately start sucking Frontline gaming's cock

That's how you know it's fake right off the bat

Aww, crap. It just hit me.

Most of these rule changes in 8th are probably -- at least in part -- to make video game adaptations easier to do.

>>53197714
The actual rules for the game will be free for sure, but we're not yet certain if the units rules will be too or if they'll be found in the 5 books released together with 8th edition

>>53197740
Do you seriously think for one second that any game company has ever cared about how the rules for 40k work before they made it into a video game?

>>53197740
You say that like it's a bad thing

>>53197740
(you)

>>53197685
There's a LGS that I go to sometimes for MTG that has 40k and tables for it. There's also a GW store about the same distance away that I've never gone to.

>>53197714
The core rules will be free, things like codices or data sheets or whatever the hell they're gonna do now won't be.

>>53197740
Why should they?
Sure, a videogame would lead a few people to actually try the tabletop game later, but many more would rather not play the game at all and focus on the videogame, instead of having to spend a ton of hours and money to build their own army

Also I don't think the difference between 7th and 8th would have that much of an impact on the development of a videogame

>>53197754
Dawn of War 1

Any news about Militarum Tempestus (Stormtroopers, I still prefer) in 8th?

>>53197776
So not like AoS where datasheets are free?

>>53197791
>DoW1
>close to TT
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>53197796
Nope, still nothing. don't worry, they won't get squatted, at worse you'll have to take an IG HQ

>>53197776
Thats unture. everything will be free on day one, then update will cost

>>53197796

no, because nobody is stupid enough to just play them and hope to win.

>>53197796

If taurox Primes are still TL then they got nasty as fuck. Double gatling cannon dice.

>>53197804
Why bother asking a question he just answered with the post you're responding to? It's not gonna change because you ask it again.

>>53197268
>titan is down to one wound
>charge a 20 man platoon into it
>private Jenkins causes a wound that's doesn't get saved
>tfw you punch a titan to death

>>53197819
Maybe people know that and hope for new rules, hence the question.
Does anyone ever tell you that you are "special" or "particular"? Is an unrelated question, mind it.

>>53197796
They leaked meltaguns and flamers.

And from the Rubric Marine leak we can assume two things
>Hotshots should be 18" S3 AP-2 D1 Rapid Fire 1
>Scions should keep the same options

So Deep Striking a Command Squad with four Meltas will probably slag monster / vehicles pretty good.

>>53197754
Developers of Sanctus Reach did.

>>53197835
I'm just saying, I don't believe him, because AoS.

>>53197848
Good thing I built a flamers HQ for the hell of it.

Where's my fucking points update!

>>53197835
pretty sure it was a rethorical question made to make you reconsider the answer just given, based on previous experience with a game they apparently take a lot of inspiration from, anon-senpai

>>53197864
is GW kill

>>53197862
4d6 auto hits ain't terrible either

>>53197852
>>53197865
Well your guesses don't matter when they already confirmed that the core rules are free and the five datasheet books they're releasing are going to be low-cost.

No one cares who you believe, we're not guessing.

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>>53197740
Here's your (you), sorry I'm not retarded enough to try and argue with you

>>53197891
Source then.

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>>53197883
that's clearly not bad

>>53197796
They said HSLs still exist for FRFSRF. I want to have a whole platoon going close-in and blapping the fuck out of stuff.

>>53197899
Go watch the video for the Q&A, or check the FAQ, or look at the community site for once.

Can I still use all my models?
Yes. Every Warhammer 40,000 miniature we sell today will be usable in the new edition of Warhammer 40,000. What’s more, they’ll be supported with new rules, which will be available from the get go in handy, low-cost books.

Literally the second question in the FAQ. If you haven't bothered to check that then why even ask for sources?

>>53197912
Because hes a fucking babby afraid of change

> tfw there's no eldar "nerf"

>>53197852
If you don't believe him, there's no gain in asking again.

>>53197941
Nigga that's not relevant to anything I asked. If you're going to be a jackass try to have a point.

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Why are there so many people who play this game who try and make you feel bad for beating them by either pretending to be in a bad mood or saying you were playing an unfun or unfair army?

>>53197966
People invest so much time and money into their army that they're always bitter when they lose. People who claim otherwise are hypocrites. Look at how they hide their orks and nids because they're so afraid of losing. If you play for fun, what are you so afraid of?

>>53197950
They're not going to announce nerfs in a hype-article, anon. Though they did call scatbikes "infamous," so it's clear they at least recognize that problem.

>>53197966
This is how you learn what people not to play with in the future.

>>53197966
basic psychology, it's not only a hobby thing: people just don't like to lose and prefer to say it's not their fault, finding any little possible excuse instead of admitting they screwed-up.

>>53197966
Because when you put so much time and effort into an army just to have them destroyed in a single turn due to the horrific balance in the game that can only be compensated for by playing friendly casual games, you tend to get salty. All the effort put into your dudes feels undermined by the fact that you didn't even get to use half of them in your game.

>>53197966
>Why are there so many people who post on this board who try and make you feel bad for beating them by either pretending to be trolling or saying you were being autistic?

>>53197991
Don't be delusional. You know nothing GW will do can stop jetbikes from being the staple obsec eldar troop choice. There will be less spam, but that really only matters in bottom-middle tier of competitive play. There's no spamming on top tables.

>>53197966
>Tau/Edlarfag detected

The issue with 40k right now that there are so many army comps that require a very specific counter (or don't have one at all) that games are almost always stomps decided in the first two turns of the game. That's very unenjoyable, so people vent their discontent on the only person that will react to it at that moment : their opponent.

>>53198009
>beating them
>posting on /tg/
Unless that was the joke you might literally be autistic.

>>53198018
I've won tournaments with DE and I agree with the other guy.

>>53197987
>Look at how they hide their orks and nids because they're so afraid of losing. If you play for fun, what are you so afraid of?
It's not about losing, it's about the armies not being fun.

I'd be fine losing as Tyranids if it actually felt like I was playing Tyranids, instead it feels like I'm playing some shitty lifeless third-party rules.

>>53197714
Surely it will be like AoS. The core rules will be free. The individual data sheets with power level like we saw for rubrics will be free. "General's handbook" with scenarios and points will cost money. Faction books (aka codex) will cost money but have all datasheets, points, artifacts, powers, army wide rules, unique detachment force orgs, lore, etc.
There might be compendium books with all the profiles for a large group of units (imperium, chaos, xenos).

If it's drastically different than this I'll be surprised.

>>53198015
In the article GW makes it souund like everything that was not scatbikes, wraithknights, or Str D flamers was buffed to be on the same level.

>>53198025
I am literally autistic.
That said after posting I did realise it sacrificed relevance for brevity, I should have said "proving them wrong"

>>53198040
I love horde armies. I love Lootas and Hive Tyrants. I main Eldar but I enjoy other factions as well. Stop crying.

how do you deal with the opponent commenting and bitching about all of his bad rolls? like it doesn't end

i think i just go into autopilot mode and don't even listen to him

>>53198075
Ball gag

Scatbikes will still hit you from seemingly anywhere and you WILL cry. The only difference is your units are tougher now, and you realize that scatbikes were easy enough to kill in the first place, you're just too retarded to do it.

>>53198075
During the game, your options are to either ignore it, or try asking your opponent to not do that. After the game, you can choose if you want to play that person again, if it was unenjoyable due to griping.

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>>53197987
>tfw you try to be a fun person to play
>try not to get angry at your opponent or the dice
>playing a friend's very tame 750 pt Eldar list, that has wraith blades and dire avengers
>my deathmarks come in
>scatter perfectly to mishap
>roll a one
>I know loosing stuff to mishaps is part of the game but it's the one thing that really rustles my jimmies bad for some reason
>necron overlord and 15 warrior squad charges wraithblades and farseer
>barely avoid killing farseer in a challenge, he's dead next turn and I'm safe from his shooting
>kills one more guy than I did
>roll a ten for LD
>14 necrons and my warlord get swept
>most of my army at 750
>shook his hand and just had to walk away for a bit so I didn't take my butthurt out on him
Closest I've gotten to just wanting to ruin someone's win so they could be closer to how I felt, any good stories of butthurt?

>>53198075
Maybe try pointing out his good rolls ? Ask if he is sure he wants to continue the game ?

Never got that problem myself, nobody has such bad rolls as I do. And after years of it you learn to not give a shit any longer.

>>53198052
Doesn't make it better, some people are convinced they won an argument when they were just acting so stupid the other person just refuse to interact with them further. Usually they can't tell they're acting like an idiot because they justify everything, ignoring the actual human interaction part.

>>53198115
>And after years of it you learn to not give a shit any longer.
easier said than done. absolute garbage luck just becomes fun but your missing meltashots (at the most critical moment) can darken the mood of anyone

>>53198075
I point out the true bad rolls: namely that no matter how many different ways I throw the dice, one of them will always go spinning like a top for a solid 10 seconds before settling.

It's actually hilarious! Like my dice are weighted on the corners.

>>53198122
Yeah somebody no longer wanting to waste time trying to explain something to you because you're being to retarded doesn't mean you won the argument.

It means you lost at life.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/12/new-warhammer-40000-points-power-levels-may12gw-homepage-post-4/

>It's fucking nothing.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/12/new-warhammer-40000-points-power-levels-may12gw-homepage-post-4/

It's up!

Points and Power Levels

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/12/new-warhammer-40000-points-power-levels-may12gw-homepage-post-4/

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/12/new-warhammer-40000-points-power-levels-may12gw-homepage-post-4/
no joke

i think its hilarious u kids talking shit about reece. u wouldnt say this shit to him at lan, hes jacked. not only that but he wears the freshest clothes, eats at the chillest restaurants and hangs out with the hottest dudes. yall are pathetic lol

>>53198169
>>53198168
>>53198162
>>53198159
kek

>>53197661
Just make their LD equal to the number of wounds in the unit.

>>53198159
>>53198162
>>53198168
>>53198169

>We can address the balance

>Picture of Tau

Hah

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/12/new-warhammer-40000-points-power-levels-may12gw-homepage-post-4/

Really liking how summoning works. Still super versatile, but no longer endless reinforcements.

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>>53195570
I thought he was literally teabagging his tea

>>53198131
38 DG marines
40 plague zombies

Made
>4<
FNP save the entire game.

>>53198075
We had a guy at our shop who's butthurt at the dice gods was legendary
>roll 10 saves
>rolls 2 ones
>"mother fucker come on!!! Fucking RNG!"
>rumor was he had a vice at his house where he would destroy dice with a drill that especially betrayed him
A lot of people stopped playing him, the people who didnt either ignored his outbursts or made jokes about it to lighten the mood, I was the former, eventually had a really bad string of games which made his butthurt climax when he played an aeldari player who tabled him turn 2, his outrage was legendary, I think something in his mind broke that day and since then he's been a bit more chill, guess he decided it wasn't worth having a heart attack over

>>53198199
Last game my Grey Knight Paladins were being mowed down by one unit of Chaos Cultists. With autoguns.

They even had an apothecary with them...

>>53198206
Wouldn't dice towers be encouraged to prevent anger like this?

>>53198086
oh you wouldnt anon~

>>53198112
>random ruins game.

I usually laugh those off.

Played a game where my Master of Ordnance scattered perfectly onto my friend's Tau Commander.

He failed his LOS, failed his invulnerable died. Lost 2 more Crisis and they fled. All of this top of Turn 1.

And I've had games were my Psykers periled every cast and Nurgle raped me sideways with Rot! Glorious Rot! It just gets funny.

But then my Marinebro can't pass a Ld or 3+ to save his life. My Taubro's Riptide fails Nova EVERY TURN. It's just funny how Chance can just fuck us over.

>>53198206
>raged so hard he looped back around to zen
Reminds me of how in Civ there was the issue of Ghandi being so peaceful that at certain settings he'd break the system and be max aggression. Just in reverse.

>>53198216
Then there was that game where i nearly tabled a Tzeetch daemon player turn 1 with my orks...

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>>53198222
But then I can't use my special spin-throw.

>We’ll be back tomorrow with another piece of new background from the new edition.

Laaaame.

>>53198159
>>53198162
>>53198168
>>53198169
>tfw you're playing doubles and every Pokémon speed ties

>>53198216
>10 chaos terminators fired at by a whirlwind
>lose 4 of them taking 8 saves
ah yes

later that same game
>take 3 saves with the same squad from bolters
>triple snake eyes, lose the last men in the squad

>>53198256
They must realise no one gives a fuck about the background stuff they show off.

>>53198222
"Those two stacked, doesn't count, that one didn't roll it just slid"

Sore losers will always find a external fault.

>>53198190
>Grav Pistols are 7 points

Awesome

Tacticals being 5 power points for a squad of 5 while 1k Sons are 6 for every extra 5 guys is also a good sign, since that means they probably won't cost double at 24 points or whatever.

Multimeltas being 27 also might mean heavy weapons in general are gonna be more pricey.

Certainly feels like point values are gonna be more fiddly in any case

>>53198222
That might just take too damn long, and like >>53198277 says, they'll always find a reason to bitch.

>>53198274
I love it.

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>>53198112
not 40k but once when I played fantasy, my opponent conceded middle of turn 3, packed his shit in his case and blasted off, swearing and raging the whole time about how everything is fucking bullshit and he's gonna throw his models off a fucking balcony, to quote.
No handshake, no nothing.

>>53198230
I almost never get butthurt about chance, but for some reason rolling a one on the mishap table really puts me on tilt I don't know why

>>53198230
You know that ork formation of stormboyz that ends up with a massive pile on your warboss? Had a player who scattered the full 6 (formation rules) into the only piece of terrain it could hit, and only at full scatter in that direction. They went into ongoing reserves, but on the next turn the same thing happened in another situation since with terrain and ground blobs there wasn't enough room for a full safe landing. Unless he wanted them on the other side of the board where neither player drew objectives.

Six again, into the only thing they could scatter into and only at max range in one direction. He rolled a 1. Dude played orks so he was used to it, but it was like watching a father's disappointed face upon realizing that all of his children ERP on furaffinity, or something equally miserable.

>>53198290
>Tactical Marines continue their downward slide to being the same points as IG Veterans
I don't want to field more, I want them to be good.

>>53198290
I really like that a multimarine will be 40 points even.

>>53198301
The question is anon, what army were you playing?

Butthurt by dice rolls? What do you mean you don't have Guide/Doom/Fortune?

>>53198242

>summoning is now an alternative deployment method instead of a way to triple your points on the table

Hallelujah

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>>53198327
8th edition Wood Elves, near the very bottom in power rankings of 8th edition

>>53198159
>back with another piece of new background
Can't wait for more chaos fan wank to piss over all other factions

>>53198274
>>53198296
I like it too

>>53198359
>flat as an anvil
Is there a more dwarvan insult?

Tactical marines are 13 points? When the new rules seem to make them loads better? How low do ork boyz need to be to make that fair? 4 points each? 3?

I guess it makes sense if the smallest thing they bother to account for is 1 point, so maybe 1 point in the new rules is like 1.5-2 points in the old ones?

Who am I kidding? It's going to be basically the same but with more good shit for the favoured ones.

Also, smallest upgrade is a grav pistol? Not a melta bomb? With melta bombs missing from the thousand sons options, it looks like they might have been removed from the game entirely.

>overcosted army
>can't rely on summons to even the field

How do I convince my playgroup away from the path of the WAACfag? A lot of our veterans are WAACfags and that culture passes on to the young blood. Really hoping Newhammer brings an end to WAACfags.

>>53198367
>chaos win ONE battle after years and years of constant losing
>imperial players up in arms, utterly fuming at this occurrence
baka

>>53198395
Melta bombs in their current form wouldn't make a ton of sense in 8th, because they were supposed to be emergency anti tank or anti MC for squads that otherwise wouldn't really be able to hurt them, but now with everything more easily being able to hurt everything it doesn't really seem necessary, I bet assault marines and their equivilant will still get them they'll just be different

>>53198112
I play Marines and I never bring Plasma because I always ALWAYS kill myself with it. I have never killed anything with Plasma except my own Marines. Fuck that Gets Hot rule so hard.

>>53198406
If people really want to win games they're going to try really hard, if they care more about who's decided the winner at the end than actually having an interesting game they're probably going to be an asshole about it.

>>53198409
>One battle
>Decades of battles and books retconned to show chaos always wins
They changed all those lost battles to being (forgive the meme) 'just as planned'

>>53198400
Aww sorry anon looks like you'll actually have to use your brain and think up new strategies

>>53198406
play the shittiest armies and make them feel bad about winning

>>53198261
>top of turn 1
>move stealth suits onto impassable
>1 fails dangerous
>fails armor save
>survivors fail break check
>run maximum distance backwards

>>53198454
im sure they would only revel in that shit

>>53198450
but that's obvious retconning, different to them actually writing the plot development to be chaos winning
added to that chaos doesn't actually win, abbadon gets his arse kicked and has to run away like always

>>53198448
They're friendly ofc but the lists being brought out will make /tg/ cry. Lots of grav spam, taudar, optimized decurions etc.

>>53198466
for a while

>>53198484
Just wait for next edition
Obviously WAACfaggotry will always exist, but hopefully the new edition will dull it down

>>53198484
If they're all like that it seems you'll have to adapt to them. My group forced super heavies out of the game because only one person wanted them.

So, what are the implications of reserve points?

Obviously, it's better the more models you own and the more choices your faction has.

Deep-striking specialists seem like they are more available for some armies than others. Orks get stormboyz and fliers, marines get several types of terminators, fliers, dreadnoughts, any number of swiss-army-knife infantry units in drop-pods...

At least it means that armies which rely on overwhelming the enemy with maximum levels of one threat can be countered easily.

Curious about how reserves interact with detachments too. Presumably they don't count for filling out your FOC, since they don't exist until they arrive? Which in turn suggests that fliers must be able to start on the board, since they are on the FOCs we have seen,