Pathfinder General /pfg/

The synethesia gas trap from the emerald spire floor 3 gave me some ideas for using it as a date rape drug on one of the players. It crosses sensory information so that you feel what you see, you see smells, and you smell what you hear, etc. Im gonna have the cleric of the level date-rape one of the captive pcs just for fun.

Am I doing this right? We're in agreement to do the scene, but I put in the drug use as a suprise.

>>53192117
I've used Perform (Oratory) checks to inspire a crowd to overthrow their corrupt monarchy so we could loot the town for the mcguffin while everyone was occupied.

>>53192117
I've scored a 108 on a Perform (Dance) check in combat thanks to exploding dice houserules.

Proceeded to use it as my AC (Thanks, Mithral Current), traverse the entire battlefield in a single turn (Thanks, Mithral Current), draw an AOO from every enemy and be missed every time (Thanks, Mithral Current), and deal around two thousand points of net damage in the process (Thanks, Mithral Current).

>>53192337
>exploding dice rules
>thanks mithral current

>>53192465
I'd have done that without the exploding bullshit houserules, I just would have been hit twice in the process.

>>53192488
sureee

>>53192491
Do you have any idea how easy it is to crank skill checks to bullshit levels? +50 is trivial by 20th.

>>53192506
>20th level
>but mithral current is the problem!

>>53192511
Problem?
No, everything went perfectly.

>>53192518
>thanks mithral current

Yeah dude you're clearly not calling it op at all

>>53192522
That's correct, I'm not calling it OP. I'm acknowledging its role in my character's success.

>>53192527
Are you new?

>>53192531
Nice adhom, friend. I've been here and playing Pathfailure since [ARBITRARY DATE NOBODY CAN PROVE].

>>53192552
i mean to 4chan

Well, couldn't figure out Yuan-Ti for the life of me. But country punchgal lizardfolk works too, I guess.

>>53192572
Might wanna brush up on that reading comprehension, buddy. I clearly said I've been here since [ARBITRARY DATE].

>>53192575
Is this for Trouser Snakes

>>53192589
No. I'd rather not try to enter in late.

>>53192583
So yes.

Is Antipaladin a meme or actually good?

>>53192605
>enter in late
>still two weeks on apps

what did he mean by this

>>53192646
It's really good but the antipaladin's oath makes it bad for group play.

The fear aura is basically a "the enemies start dropping spaghetti" button.

>>53192646
It's Paladin but Evil.

>>53192646
Its really good as far as evil classes go. Its even better if you are undead so you can use a swift action to heal yourself every turn

>>53192646
You mean Insinuator/Tyrant, right?

Because those are the only archetypes that make Antipaladin playable. Not mechanically playable, but actually playable in a party with other non-evil party members

>>53192669
I'm not particularly worried about others, as I'm pretty sure the only other player will follow my lead if I go full Hitler.

>>53192651
Well, I mean I wouldn't be against playing her there, but don't we have enough lizards there?

A player comes to you with this story for their character. How do you react?

Svara grew up the daughter of a senator in The Spire. She was always in the shadows of her two older twin brothers, Brafor and Chast. Her father was never around, always working, or drinking, or sleeping with some woman of the night. The children were contained to the house with their mother. Svara’s mother was always an obsessive parent. Stern and overly careful, she devoted every moment of her attention to her children-- mostly her sons. She loved her sons and would do anything for them. She would spoil them by buying them anything they desired, hiring the best cooks to keep them fed, managing every detail of their lives to befit one of ease, safety, and comfort. They had private teachers who groomed them for a life in politics. Svara was granted none of this love. She was much younger than her brothers, and looked much more like her father than her mother. She was denied school and was sent to do housekeeping tasks with the maids each day. The maids were strict and cruel and gave her no privileged treatment.

cont.

Has anyone used a kaiju in their game?

>>53192761
One day when Svara was 12 years old, her brothers were mugged and beaten to death in the street on one of the few nights they were permitted to leave the house premises. Her mother went into a deep despair. Sometimes pretending, or forgetting, that the sons had died. Other times she would just sit and weep. Sometimes she would do nothing at all except stare into the fireplace for an entire day. At one point she began speaking to different mystics and sorcerers in the city. She was researching something; Obsessed with finding more information. Then one day, about 3 months after the death of her sons, she packed Svara into a horse cart and rode with her into the Black Flats. Svara’s memories of what happened there are foggy and confused. She recalls leaving with her mother. She remembers screaming and kicking that she didn’t want to go until her mother made one of the guards bind her limbs. Then her memories become dark and clouded. When she tries to remember what happened, she gets stricken with a deep visceral fear. She tries not to think about it too often anymore. The next thing she remembers is waking up in the crpyts beneath the Elven city of Trovine.

When she awoke there was a small, glowing girl with wings tending to her wounds. She thought she was dreaming at first as she faded in and out of consciousness. After a few days she had recovered. This is how Svara first met Echo. Echo was a pixie who lived in crypts. She saw Svara ride in on horseback and collapse into the dirt. She was covered with cuts on the right side of her body. Two bleeding stumps of horns were pushing through the peak of her head. A short, stubby tail pressed out from the base of her spine. Echo used her magic to help heal Svara.

cont.

>>53192772
Svara had slept in the dirt for a week. Eating small pieces of meat that Echo brought her and drinking the water which dripped down the rough cut stone walls. Svara named the pixie echo because as they spoke in the crypts their voices would carry for what seemed like miles. They could hear their words reflecting back to them for twenty second after speaking.

Svara and Echo spent nearly a month together in the crypts. The would sing and play games. Svara began to discover that she had new powers developing. She could control the plants growing around them. Sometimes she could hear the conversations of rats while she slept. Echo helped Svara train her druidic magic. Svara's horns and tail grew larger as she aged. At first she was ashamed of them, but as she became more accustomed to them she saw how useful these new adaptations could be. She always wondered why they had began to grow. After a time Svara felt the need to go back into the world. She couldn’t return home, so she became an outsider to the exterior cities. Doing whatever odd job she could to get by and honing her skills at fighting and controlling her magic. She was hot tempered and, at times, would be compelled with a hate filled rage. She didn’t know where this came from, but it had never happened before being taken from her home all those years ago. Now Svara is becoming to determined to uncover just what happened when her mother took her to the black flats. She left there with her body changed with demonic features, new magical abilities, and a dark rage deep inside her-- something terrible must have occurred and it was time she knew.

wtf where's the tail

>>53192488
>>53192337
How's the exploding dice houserule work? The only system I've ever played with exploding dice is Savage Worlds, but I've wanted to integrate them into other games.

How do you handle it when PCs need to lie to other PCs?
Do you call for Bluff vs. Sense Motive? Do you let them roleplay it out? Or do you allow one of them to call for the roll first?

>>53192761
>>53192772
>>53192783
are you asking us to rate their character or something?

>>53192836
Yes.

>>53192761
I'd ask them who the character is, beyond just a collection of events.

>>53192761
>>53192772
>>53192783
Eh. A few warning signs but nothing too huge.
I'd demand some "whatif"s be answered to make sure this wasn't shitbait, but as long as they weren't trying to wrangle the pixie as a second PC it'd work well enough.

>>53192828
I tell them to roleplay it out. If they don't, whoever breaks roleplay first is assumed to have lost the opposed skill check.

>>53192839
What's the premise of the campaign? The character is a 6/10 but it could be better or worse depending on how well it meshes into the setting and campaign pitch. Tell the player to elaborate on her personality since Svara's personality is almost completely unknown.

>>53192851
Oh, no. The pixie is a familiar that she demanded for free at 1st level because it's "crucial to her story".

It's worth noting that she also mentioned her character is "at least half demon" and despite all the fluff about druid magic in the story, the sheet she filled out is for a rogue.

>>53192908
Mention that shit, retard. It's just a tad bit important.

She might (haha, fat chance) be planning to multiclass into druid. More likely, it's a "BUT MY BACKSTORY SAYS I DRUID POWERS" gambit.

Either way, the pixie is an instant no unless somebody else at the table is going to play it.

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>>53192932
How do I play a cute pixie in Pathfinder?

>>53192886
She sent me this before she even knew what the campaign premise was. We were going to meet up to make characters together but she just sent me this out of the blue.

>>53192957
Ask to be the pixie familiar or friend of a player!

>>53192117
Why does the same autistic weeb keep using fucking anime pictures?

>>53192908
Yeah, fuck that.

Let her be a tiefling, flat no to the pixie, and tell her to either change the backstory or class choice so that they match.

>>53192957
I want that pixie on my shoulder, she seems really cute!

>>53192968
>why are weebs weebs

Scientists want to know why this is too

What are interesting additional abilities a flying item might have beyond transporting the rider?

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https://app.roll20.net/forum/permalink/5035357/
Is it meme worthy yet? Are you abandoning your emo girls? A swashbuckler? Really?

>>53193084
I want to play her and put her on your shoulder, but I don't know of any pixie races or monster classes!

>>53193126
Not much to go on yet, anon.

o/

OSRfag here, a blogpost got me thinking about 3e (et al.) for the first time in a while
>http://revolution21days.blogspot.com/2012/01/why-d-has-lots-of-rules-for-combat.html
and if you fellow had anything to add to or disagree with it on.

Also, 2hu-fag lives here? I thought he just crawled out of the woodwork for Planescape threads?

>>53193126
Bitch don't look NG to me

>>53193126
The lineup right now is pretty wild, desu

>>53193163
Yes, this is where 2hu lives

>>53193163
This is 2hu's home.

>>53193138
Yeah. I'd love to play something like this but I'd hate to have to resort to homebrew to do it.

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>>53193126
Too late, there's already an official memequeen.

>>53193194
Now this, my friends, appears to be a forced meme

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>>53193163
>>53193176
>>53193183
Last Known Sighting of 2hu: >>53178599 >>53178669

Can someone explain to me like I'm a retard the difference between clerics, inquisitors, and warpriests? Both thematically and mechanically.

I'm very confused. Thematically at least they all seem like the same class.

>>53193126
>complaining about a swashbuckler
>in a tribal indiana jones adventure starting off on a ship

anon....i...

>>53193280
Thematically it's just three flavors of RELIGION with different side focuses.

>>53193280
Clerics are fullcasters and tend to focus on that
Inquisitors are smite-anything with teamwork abilities and face abilities, like a religious bard.
Warpriests are gishy selfbuffing fightmen that like to get stuck in.

I wish there were more ROaB apps, they're interesting

Jane D may be a meme.

Have any dragons that aren't metallic, chromatic, or imperial ever got any serious attention?

>>53193313
Would inquisitor make for an alright support character for someone who isn't looking to play anything as strong as a cleric?

>>53193284
C H A R M E D L I F E
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>>53193333
define 'support'

>>53193333
Definitely, its got more skill points and bonuses to some face skills. (Also Blistering Invective)

>>53193194
Who does the meme queen ship hardest?

>>53192656
Insinuator make it better for group play with their code of conduct change.

>>53192658
It's paladin but focused on more offense and debuffing.

>>53193371
Damage is not the primary focus of the character. Buffs, debuffs, control, whatever.

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>>53193393
Your waifu and you

>>53193284
Isn't there even a swashbuckler archetype that centers around whip use? Someone really needs to get on that app

>>53193434
preacher inquisitors in particular are pretty solid at that

>>53193438
But what if my waifu is already PMing someone else?

>>53193438
But anon, my waifu is dead

The shipping continues with LoBaF.

Six people, pair them off:
>Aida
>Essa
>Gamze
>Iolanthe
>Orlan
>Shanan

Looks like there has to be at least one Female x Female pairing. Pair them off! Place your bets!

>>53193480
No.

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What are the pros and cons of PMing your crush?

>>53193459
>>53193475
Sometimes even the greatest ships sink, like the titanic. But we can't cling to the wreckage of what cannot be or can never be again for long, any ship is better than swimming, and the right ship for you is the one that comes to your aid.

>>53193494
Yes!

>>53193480
Everyone x A firey harpy lady

>>53193504
Pros
You'll know
They might reciprocate
You might make something magical together

Cons
They reject you
You find out they've been PMing some other hunk for weeks

>>53193480
These are stale memes, we need fresh memes

>>53193438
If I went complete indiana jones, what's my chances of getting in?

>>53193504
pros: if they like you too, you might have something going for you.

cons: they don't reciprocate and you're no worse off than you were before.

>>53193504
Con: They know your motives because they read the thread and aren't incredibly ignorant autists, just regularly ignorant autists, and reject you before you even make conversation

>>53193538
Probably better than just about any other concept, but concept alone can't guarantee you anything.

>>53193531
>tfw my crush has been PMing Chad Thundercock

>>53193589
Seriously? Come on, you know that's not true. She loves you, man, she's just friends with the other guy.

Are prepared casters just objectively better than spontaneous casters?

>>53193589
Who.
In.
Thefuck.
Even counts as a Chad around here?

>>53193504
Pros
Gaining The World

Cons
Losing Your Chains

>>53193641
>tfw crush asks me if I'm willing to play the cuck in an ntr threesome RP

>>53193656
Captain Slow

>>53193671
You said yes, right?

>>53193504
++ Might let you smash
++ You're going to have a new friend
+ May be open to the idea of talking over possible character interactions in a game you're both in
+ Almost certainly delighted to discuss possible side RP scenarios
+ Will likely be happy to talk to you regardless of what else you do together
+ Opens a dialogue with them

- Might turn you down
- Might be offended, but only if you come on too strong or by going "hay bb wan sum fuk"

>>53193674
Who? I'm not up on my memes.

>>53192117
BRING OUT MIRIA

>>53193655
Usually. My personally favorite is cleric because I just adore having the full list known right out of the gate. It helps me get all sorts of fun wands and scrolls to help my friends with all of our problems and obstacles we face!
Very satisfying role to play, imo. You can bash people with your deity's favored weapon, cast all kinds of fun spells, cast even more spells with items, and even do channel stuff, which can be super interesting with Variant Channeling and some feats.

I strongly recommend it for a straightforward yet useful class. The fact that you inherently tie into an important setting element is just awesome gravy!

>>53193656
Corwin

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>>53193706
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrG4TEcSuRg

>>53192575
Monk for the punchy?

Alchemist for the down home cooking?

>>53193749
Wow. That tells me so much. Truly I am enlightened.

>>53193714
WHENS MAHVEL

Is the Dervish still t3?

>>53193763
It's still a Bard... so yes.

So how do I push the Night Terror's improvised weapon theme as far as possible until I can go from completely naked to murdering someone with a damp hunk of bread in a about half a minute?

>>53193757
I was thinking Brawler since that seems to be better than Monk at the punching, but I'm open to ideas.

>>53193671
Do what that Chinese guy did and turn the tables on the other man to reclaim your woman.

>>53193798
Entropic sage hedgewith, Ironfist commando

>>53193798
Unchained Monk is a fun option for punching, but Brawler can work too.

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>>53193760

>attempting to avenge murdered party member in brave combat
>the killer is fucking invincible and carves you up like a turkey

Life is pain

>>53193840
git gud scrub

>>53193322

What does that even mean?

>>53193749
No, really, who?

>>53193857
what does what mean

>>53193714
Who?

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>>53193840

>>53193857
Jane's applied to a couple other games. Her app for Overlewd got in, and her one for LoBaF was actually pretty grounded. I don't really know what her deal is, she might be some Roll20 rando who got lucky. But she does seem aware of the Discord Cabal

How do you prefer to flavour your Smite Evil?

>>53193879

But what does it mean to "be a meme" The app? The player?

>>53193887
They have made two substantially meme apps, which makes me believe they may be a meme

>>53193823
Well, I'm inclined to make variations on the sheet to see how things shake out. Yes, also including >>53193818 even if it wouldn't fit so well. As for the alchemist part, I almost want to slap chirurgeon on and have her signature fruit cobbler be the equivalent of the breath of life extract.

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>making mr.jones in dnd for serpent's skull
>things are looking promising
>only missing the revolver
>one of my traits is on lock, can't just money whore my way to it level one

Dammit, I'm so close to perfection. I can taste it.

>>53193879
Hm, I remember she applied to Blingmaker.
The character wasn't that impressive, but it did get every motherfucker and his dog coming out of the woodwork to declare their choking fetish and desire to exercise it on that character.

>>53193883
Literal Magic.
The reprehensible miscreants blows become harder to land thanks to radiant Justice energy, and the heroic paladins attacks both strike more readily and cause greater harm thanks to that same radiant Justice energy.

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>>53193883
I've seen radiant fire and radiant lightning before but you know, I've never seen someone play radiant ice.

>>53193908
Eh, choking's a waste of time on its own without some proper neckbiting, and I mean the good stuff. None of this namby-pamby cute nibble shit.
If the bitch isn't bleeding, you best be conceding.

So my character is part of the Wayward Path so he keeps a travel log, as is part of the whole martial tradition, is this too hammy for his application start?

"My great grandfather left Korvosa with a dream in his heart and a pocket full of coin. My grandfather helped build Magnimar, the greatest city in all of Varisia. My father saw our family's dreams burn and line humiliated. I now wish to see it restored. Adrian Love fights for a free Magnimar, unshackled from despots and oppressors even if the city must burn for it. I swear that all accounts held within this journal contain no falsehoods nor exaggerations. I am closer to my dream than ever before and I am a very long way from home."

The idea is my character fled Mangimar immediately after a successful murder of a chief member of the Council of Ushers, using his position as a relatively respected doctor to make his way in to the sick man's home and ensure he died from an otherwise survivable disease. He jumped shipped as far away as possible, which happened to be heading to the Mwangi. He signed on as the expedition's doctor and one of his primary motivations is survival at any cost.

>>53193895

I don't get what qualifies a meme app? Is it good to be a meme?

>>53193967
People remember you if you're a meme, but if they don't like you, that's bad.

>>53193906
What are the gun settings for that game anyway?

>>53193967
Its more that their apps are exceptionally entertaining

like 4916 THICKER THICKER THICKER

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>>53193983

>>53193983
I never actually looked into the apps, what was 4916's thing anyway?

>>53193978
Commonplace. Early shit is a lot cheaper, advanced still costs the same but less reasons for DMs to stop slingers from making them.

>>53194003
Being FUCKING INVINCIBLE.

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>>53194009
and thicc...

>>53194007
Bah. More people need to use Everywhere.

>>53194009
Isn't that an entirely different meme?

>>53194028
Meme synthesis

>>53194003

https://app.roll20.net/forum/permalink/4942986/

>>53193942
Go to sleep, DHB.

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>>53193840
GM expected this to happen to me.

He severely underestimated what my character could do when I kicked it into high gear.

>tfw you have been holding back the entire campaign to let others shine
>tfw it's time to cut loose
>tfw GM did not realize I could, in a pinch, push my bullrush bonus to +41
>tfw bullrush opponent off the cliff
>tfw we're on a 3 round timer falling and I plan on grappling/pinning him and riding him into the ground

Hoped that fucker was ready

>>53194028
Hey, at least alchemical cartridges (paper) are 3 G to purchase and 1.5 to make. That's always neat.

>>53194057
I'm baking cookies. I can't go to sleep for a few hours.

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>>53192164
This shit is the reason people don't like pathfinder

>>53194080
what kind of cookies

>>53194087
Oatmeal Chocolate Chip and Peanut Butter.

>>53194080
>>53194102
>DHB bakes my very favorite kind of cookies

I want you inside me

>>53194122
t. wist

>>53194102
nice

>>53193589
>>53193671
Why don't you PM that other girl instead? I bet she'd be really happy if you did.

>>53193589
>>53193671
>TFW you become Chad Thundercock in secret
>TFW you out-Chad the Chad
>TFW you cuck Chad behind his back
Not sure how I feel about this, really.

>>53194177
What profit be it to a man if he gains the ERP but loses his very soul?

>>53194068
I hope to someday die in such a noble fashion! However, at this rate, my brave paladin will just bleed out and then go berserk and eat the other PCs.
Hardly the picture of heroism.

>>53194191
I thought I told you PLD shitheads to go home and get off the lawn!

>>53194190
Succubi are gureito!

>>53194129
If I was that cute I wouldn't have to ask him, Anon!

>>53194191
>thinking I died
I survived the fall, I killed the son of a bitch.

Out of curiousity, what kind of interesting variations of a Druid that you people have made?

When I think of Druid, I cant help but think of "Nature Magical Hippie" when they are supposed to be more than just that.

Enlighten me please

>>53194229
Spooky Menhir Savant that sacrifices fools in a big stone circle

>>53194229
NE druid. I was the Apex Predator. I represented the hunt, hunger, and nature's cruelty.

>>53194229
Magical Safari Guide. Letting the city folk see NATURE without letting NATURE eat the city folk.

>>53194229
I had a friend make a Druid who though of himself as an alpha predator. He had magic power, intelligence, and shit, which just meant he was better at hunting than anyone else.

>>53194229
Gestalt or multiclass Druid/Rogue. I was an eco-terrorist.

>>53194229
I ended up playing a luchador instead but I built a fire domain druid once with the intention of playing up a rebirth through trials theme.

>>53194245
>>53194255
>>53194259
>>53194260
>>53194261
I was wondering if being some sort of Wizardy-Druid kind of character works

The kind that is all about learning and solving problems and all that, but not averse to using nature's magic.

I mean, you look at Merlin and also Gandalf and stuff, you can argue they sure have that druidic look to them when we usually know them as wizards

>>53194086
>Y'KNOW DON'T... SAY... S-SWEARS

>>53194292
Just go for some Clive Barker's Undying shit.

>>53193163
Bump? I guess?

The post got responses, but not to the part I really cared about.

>>53194365
Sorry...I didnt play that

I was never good with horror games, and usually when I play games, I intend to have fun, and getting jumpscared and stuff isnt fun

>>53194427
That's fair. It was pretty great for its time though.
Basically, be a spooky, human sacrificing motherfucker in a hood

>>53194477
Well when you put it that way, on top of what >>53194245 said

That only reminds me of the Mystery of the Druids

So I always hyper optimize characters then hold back until it's time to kick things up a notch. Am I a bad player for doing this? I normally don't go full power unless things are going south fast (another PC has already died).

I don't see Serpent Skull in the looking for game listing in Roll20.

>>53193898
Now I'm wondering what led a perfectly good Human family to take in this clearly oversized Tsundere Rex.

I can already here her complaining about carrying the whole barn around.

>>53194495
This is normal and sometimes can be considered good RPing or player behavior really

If you are playing a Wizard/Cleric or something, it may be necessary if only to stop stealing the spotlight

And if your character is one of those who are more secretive or modest types, then it counts a good RPing

....Really, I wish I could be like you, my friend who likes to GM remarks how I am the type who makes super optimized characters but always ends up holding back not because I want to, but because I am bad at running the builds

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>>53194491

>>53194495
>>53194526

I don't even see how "super optimized" is even that different from just being a barbarian and having power attack. Even the dumbest normie looks up guides these days.

Most of the time when I hear about people doing "crazy" optimization they're just cheating.

>>53194544
Exactly

>>53194547
See, often times I make build/race/template combinations that make them REALLY potentially super powerful than standard

My past builds include like a Half-Dragon Paladin/Cleric of Bahamut who not only hits EXTREMELY hard but had full cleric spellcasting on top of that

But my party would always make fun of how I make tons of bad decisions in general so I end up holding myself back

Its not a flattering matter when you are genuinely compared to KonoSuba's Aqua because you tend to make really powerful builds but not the actual competence to unlock its full potential

P.S This is gestalt if anything

So what's the verdict on the TSS apps?

>>53194612
We can't give one until you finish yours

>>53194526
>If you are playing a Wizard/Cleric or something, it may be necessary if only to stop stealing the spotlight
Primal Disciple Barbarian || Symbiotic Slayer Vigilante

So the "kick it up a notch" moment was:
>symbiotic release to give power over to the symbiote personal
>symbiotic empowerment
>begin rage w/ Moment of Greatness
>activate four magic tattoos with Deadly Juggernaut, Greater Heroism, Battle Trance, and Divine Vessel (Anarchic Avatar)
>downed three doses of Blood Sap

This was when my GM had put in the 'you lose' scenario at high levels (level 13) after we had apparently fucked up (I'll admit we made some mistakes).

>>53194592

If you have gestalt and templates on the table then I think it's safe to say no one cares about any semblance of balance.

>>53194632
At any rate, theres no shame in holding back if you and everyone else are having fun still

It can tie in to why exactly your character acts that way. It can also make for some fun combat scenes!

>>53194635
These days, I do try to hold back by not going too crazy with choices

..Yet, as of recently, I ended up with an L5 character who was confirmed as one of the strongest duelists among the other PCs when I made the build mainly for fun. So, I guess its just a bad habit of mine

>pfg has degenerated into "I have the biggest genitalia" kind of thread
>"I haz deh stronkest bild!"

Your mothers must be proud of having crapped into this absurd world such aberrant error of human functionality. You should had been toss into a choked latrine which was originally a hoke dig to bury rusty barb wire instead but they hate themselves so much their self destructive tendencies made them think it was a good idea to nurture such mockery of homo sapiens.

>>53194829
My mother is proud of me, got a masters and a good job and everything. I just happen to hide the fact I jack it to chinese girl cartoons.

>>53194835
Master in being a fucking NEET is what you have. And arguing about make believe games is not a real job, Anon.

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Did you PM them /pfg/?

>>53194829
She should be, that turd grew up to be a CR4 gibbering mouther.

>TSS has still nothing but martials as far as the eye can see
god help us

>>53194829
Okay

>>53194923
I'm working on an Oracle!

>>53194923
>Merlynn
>Amalthea
>Priscilla
>Wendifa
Just 4, but there are casters.

>>53194923
Good, that means I have a better chance to be patted on the head for a job well done!

>first character
>sorcerer
>muh fireballs
>stealing spotlight
>can't dial it down without it being obvious that i'm holding back
>what do?

>>53195004
Blow your load incredibly fast and then when things get really fire the other players can save your ass instead.

Still salty from Blood in the Fangwood? Here's your chance to release your character from limbo. https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/77293/ironfang-invasion-aventure-path

>>53195017
>bamboozle part 2

Is it possible to run a Chaotic Evil character in a largely non-Chaotic Evil group if their goals generally align?

>>53195077
It's possible to run a Chaotic Evil character in a largely Lawful Good group without goals aligning depending on the circumstances. As long as you can be a team player you should be fine.

Friendship is my favorite excuse.

>>53195077
Depends on the other alignments

>>53195116
To me alignment is like religion. Its not really relevent to your adventurer unless you emphasize it as such. Ive played cowardly paladins before and had a blast.

>>53195017
Can apply Gonzo classes?

>>53195246
Gonna have to read it first. Toss me a link.

>>53195271
http://spheresofpower.wikidot.com/gonzo

>>53195017
I often forget there're people other than myself and memes until on /pfg/ until I see an unfamiliar name hosting.

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>>53195291
I'm here, Anon, and I'm not even a meme!

>>53195332
Thats great to hear. Ill throw in an application. Any reccomended reading for the setting?

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>>53195361
The Player's Guide and the Lands in Conflict sourcebook would be perfect!

What was the least attractive female character art on an app accepted to a /pfg/ game? I'm just curious what the floor is here.

>>53195395
Mate /pfg/ would fuck a particularly curvy log

What do people think of an Arsenal Chaplain Warpriest with a Lucerne Hammer? I'm looking to build a kind of middle of the road character (not too optimized but not weak).
I thought about taking the Following Step feat chain and using divine favour + fates favoured.

I have been drinking and am wondering if I should post pictures of the cookies I baked?

>>53195426
yes

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>>53195410
What are they like? Where were they born? What do they value in friends? Lovers? What's their favorite food? What are their short-term goals? Long-term goals?

>>53195426
DHB, post the cookies! I want to see if you pass muster and are in fact worthy of becoming my husband

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>>53195437
>>53195429
They're not the most attractive cookies.

>>53195456
look tasty tho

>>53195430
i see where you are getting at but i'm honestly looking for build advice since i'm bad at imagining how it will work in practice. I can handle the "fluff" myself ^.^

>>53195456
uwaa but they look so gooood

>>53195456
I'd fuck your cookies.

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>>53195478
I just wanted to know, Anon. I didn't mean to sound judgmental. I was just curious about your character!
The build sounds fine. You'll do alright!

>>53195410

I don't think following step works with reach

>>53195004
>>53195015
seconding. They will catch up soon enough, especially when the Dm starts throwing 'uh oh a fire elemental someone help'

>>53195456
>ywn cuddle up with DHB under blankets while he drones on about optimization and you eat his cookies and nod attentively

Why even live?

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>>53195459
>>53195479
>>53195489
>>53195506
Right side up picture of cookies. I am visiting friends tomorrow and wanted to bake cookies for the visit.

>>53195516
You'll be able to have any part of their bodies you want with cookies like that!

>>53195516
Is DHB the most wholesome /pfg/ goer?

Why are so many TSS apps not fit for jungle adventure at all

>>53195566
I-I used to make cookies a bunch, Anon...
But that was before the crippling depression

>>53195599
I should make a white woman on the hunt for ancient fertility idols

>>53195599
Strictly speaking, isn't everyone on a boat heading to a city at the beginning? The only jungle adventure equipment you could justify having with you would have to be so special you would bring it from another kingdom and wouldn't just buy it in Sargava.
Otherwise, only a total psycho would have everything with them
That's like packing for some fucking mountaineer communist rebel guerrilla trek across China or some shit when you take a plane to a city somewhere.

>>53195599
You're supposed to be foreigners, keep that in mind.

Though the thing is most don't seem to know what they do for the expedition itself. You need a job and a purpose being there.

Guide, navigator, doctor, missionary, guards, botanist, archaeologist, etc. You need a reason they agreed to take you along.

>>53195494
Oh sorry i misunderstood you. I thought you where implying that i should care more about the character itself and not about the stats.

He's LN and has the War domain (obv since Arsenal Chaplain). He doesn't follow a particular god as much as he worships war itself. That is not meaning he is a warmonger or actively promotes war. He just accepts war as a fact and let's others debate over things being good or evil.
We are playing a Heaven/Hell setting campaign (I know, kinda edgy but I really like the group) and my character is going to be a Nefalem who lived on the earth. Not fitting in anywhere he found his joy to be the fight.

> What are they like
Straight foward and not to talkactive,

> What do they value in friends?
Honesty and knowing that they have his back since he tends to throw himself into combat with everything he has and tends to need people watching his back. Also cooking.

Short term goals:
Find an enemy who can defeat him (I'd imagine being a Nefalem on earth with puny humans doesn't isn't really challenging)

Long term goals:
Find purpose and a place in life and ultimately die in glorious combat

Bonus Round: Has an irrational fear of not dying in combat

>No haterino please

>>53195631
The city is the colony right on the edge of the jungle. The player's guide says that people should have a reason to want to go into the jungle in the first place. Be it for treasure, exploration, because you want to run from the military or whatever.

>>53195632
Exactly what I mean. For example, the first app, Lord Cornelius had a good idea going. Then Gray the fencer had both a good reason to be there, and a reasonable purpose. Others like the witchdoctor kobold or catboy have a good reason as being guides.

>>53195683
Dont forget the primary purpose for being there as well: memes, son.

>>53195632
>>53195683
Is being a hard motherfucker that kills people and bosses folks around adequate for an expedition? I feel like someone like that is in every story about expeditions ever.

>>53195638
I think you could have more layers on that onion, anon.

Overlewd was a wild ride tonight.
Greentexts to follow this weekend, once there's no chance of spoilers for team Dastardly based on what team Vicious went through..

>>53195733
Generally that would be an NPC rather than the PCs, as you're not leading the expedition. Being a hard guy makes sense though.

I'm leaning towards either a doctor or a linguist.

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>>53195638
Seems straightforward enough. I like it. What's the rest of the group like?

>>53195516
>>53195456
The cookies are done. The drinking has made me very tired. Goodnight friends. I hope you all do well.

>>53195781
aaaa marry me DHB!

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>>53195632
We have an archaeologist coming,
so there's that much at least.

>>53195749
So if you're a hard motherfucker that can hold their own when it comes to jungle survival, you're golden, right? The Murder Guy role is a legit role on its own?

>>53195752
The DM doesn't want us to know that much about each others characters before we meet in game. (Campaign hasn't startet yet)
It seems that the idea was to have one PC from every side:
Heaven: Female Buff/Battlefield Control Sorcerer who doesn't want to harm anyone but still has to fight
Earth: Me
Hell: ? Neutral Tiefling Alchemist. Sarcastic and insecure.

>>53195733
I see what you mean.
Any ideas what would fit for a character like that? Maybe his true passion is painting but he has no talent as his fear of failure keeps him from getting in to it.

>>53195913
I should mention that although we are from different realms we fill (obviously) work together for a common goal and the sorcerer is good and the alchemist and me are neutral. I don't know yet what our common goal will be but it will be good aligned.

>>53195890
The Murder Guy is USUALLY a legit role, especially in classic serials. The Muscle trope exists for a reason

The thing you're running against is that in DND, everyone is The Murder Guy to an extend except for maybe a dedicated buffer..who is there to help the murder squad kill things.

You're gonna wanna stress those survival skills, instead. Everyone can murder in pathfinder, you're not really special even if you do murder faster or harder.

>>53195733
>hard motherfucker that kills people and bosses folks around
Given that PoW is allowed and its gestalt, you'll soon find yourself surrounded by other murder guys who may not be as good at murder at you but will quickly chafe from being around you.

Soon enough the other (admittedly less murdery) guys will ask each other "why are we putting up with this faggot?" and it may not happen anytime soon, but at some point you'll take one too many crits or fail one too many saves and the guys that you've been pushing around will watch you die before cleaning up after you.

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How much would you estimate J and K weigh?


Also, reply with which build most closely matches your favorite female PC.

>>53196327
None of them, unless you've got "half-giant barbarian woman" on there

>>53196327
I love B but I am also found of J.

>>53196327
insufficient data (no height). I will point out that muscle weighs more than fat, however, so it is entirely probably that J outweighs almost everyone pictured except F.

>>53196384
Assume two inches above average, since it looks like they're about two or three above average in that picture, no?

How herculean a character with STR 21 should look like?
Or do you think it should go like in some cape comics?

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Where can I find the laws of Golarion's country? Things like "Murder here is a crime, while killing there not so much" or "Here casters must have a badge on their chest or wear something red, in order to be recognize"...

>>53196428

At 5'6 F will weigh about 310 pounds. E probably weighs in at 180 at 6' (thighs, you see). C is probably 5'9 and nearing 200, much to her annoyance. B is close to F, because her hight evens out her fatty tissue ratio. A weighs close to 210, being only a little shorter than C and having more muscle. J is probably close to 280, possibly more because she is very tall and K only a little less. G weighs slightly less than J because muscle>fat. H is a delicate little thing at 5' 4 and weights close to 140.

>>53196498

Not well defined except in places with unusual laws.

Like how in Korvosa unionizing is punishable by death.

What happened to the snake and shackles listing?

How do I properly neglect-dom /pfg/?

>>53196849
Don't do it! Be an attentive Daddy and take care of your princess.

>>53196940
No, only neglect domming and BOSSDICK now.

>>53196950
What happened to the good and caring Daddy?

>>53196962
BOSSDICK happened.

>>53196778
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/76813/the-skull-of-the-stupidly-enormous-trouser-serpent-god

Namechange.
Also, how goes the odds of being an absolute savage, one whose desires barely ascend above escaping slavery and butchering?

>>53197005
Depends on what lind of slave they make me.

>>53197005
Lizardfolk maybe? Reminder that the Ydersius thinks soft skins exist to be hunted and enslaved and probably why the azlanti grew to revile beast men.

>>53196327
C with the height of H

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>>53197239

Did I miss PLD greentexts somehow? What happened? I need to live vicariously

>>53197248
Height, not age you daft mook. Now go beat up a minority somewhere else.

How does a steelfist commando warlord get through damage resistance with his strikes?

>>53197276
>all cops are nigger beaters

Found the liberal. And also cringfully unfunny as only a liberal can be

>>53197318
Found the biblethumber. Go justify all the genocides somewhere.

>>53196466
It's entirely aribtrary. They could be as skinny as young Hercules in the cartoon but as strong. Do whatever the fuck you want.

>>53196288
This. And the disparity can quickly build bitterness as well.

If one person kills shit better than the others, the worst case scenario is that there's someone else in the party who's shit at optimization and was trying to do the same thing. That person ended up with an even less versatile character than yours, who can't kill shit as well either. Someone's gonna not have fun.

If you kill shit slightly better than the others but use this to boss them around when they ARE more versatile than you, their goodwill will rapidly evaporate as well; who does this asshole think he is, and are we even getting anything out of keeping him with us? We can fight plenty well, isn't he just a fucking liability?

Then you add an extra layer of complexity with the downtime career types; heavily focused crafters, the less wily of those that make diviners, and so on: These guys are giving you massive boons, but at the same time why aren't they staying home? Why do they insist (IC not OOC) on tagging along? Or worse yet what happens if one of them manages to be competent at crafting, *and* at combat, *and* at something like part of the 'skillmonkey' job as well? Worst case scenario he did this with as less time and mental effort than the guy who can't kill shit as good as your beatstick and isn't as versatile either. That's not gonna end well.

Finding a proper balance in a group without group creation can be very difficult.

>>53197276
I'd argue they're not all minority aggressors.

Chicago cops, for example, spent much of the decade particularly focused on arresting tourist vehicles and nonsentient physical objects after gaining the right to simply declare objects guilty and do quite literally anything they want with it afterwards.

That's how we got precincts with Marguerita machines and half the force owning RVs (you like one you see just accuse it of suspicion of being related to drug trafficking and take it home with you).

Meanwhile ones in LA and SF probably don't notice skin color or tempting luxuries nearly as much as they care about their drug sales.

>>53197406
Hush, I am baiting, no actual answers allowed.

>>53197310
There are stikes that are designed to defeat dr/hardness. If you dont jave those then I hope you have twf fuse styles and pummeling style.

>>53197393
>"Lets just leave the bsf with 0 survival to die in the woods and get that waifu app that didnt get accepted instead of this nigger"
Is likely also a valid reaction.

I want to tell a story where the repeated destruction in the Reformation of the adventurers build them into eventually the idealized hero. Are there any good mechanical methods of destroying or removing away equipment from the party without making it feel cheap?

>>53197668
A villain more interested in humiliating them rather than killing them repeatedly winning?

I know Broken Blade's the top beatstick in PoW, so what is Primal Fury's purpose?

>>53197830
Broken Blade is supposed to be the unarmed discipline. Primal Fury is the general purpose "smash shit" discipline.

>>53197830
That's only because of a bug in Broken Blade's wording which makes it possible to use the unarmed discipline with weapons.

Yeah, it's a stupid bug.

>>53197926
>bug
It is explicitly written to allow you to do that. That's no bug at all.

>>53197980
>unintended effect that's valid because of wording not being thought through
>not a bug

>>53198006
>discipline weapons are these these and these
>you can only use broken blade with discipline weapons

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>>53197744
Cliche but still worthwhile twist, he is grooming them so they can someday overcome a greater evil that he failed to defeat.

>>53198030
Monk weapons and natural weapons.

And it's not broken with these

It's only broken when you swap in the ability to use ANY weapon with it, and suddenly you're using the unarmed discipline with a fucking greataxe

>>53198077
Which disciplines would you say are broken, and in what order?

>>53198077
>Monk weapons and natural weapons.
>And it's not broken with these

Even in the Monk weapons list you've got the Sansetsukon, the Tri-Point Double-Edged Sword, and others.

>>53198077
Honestly they should have just done what paizo did to pummeling style. Add a clause that keeps people from using say, crusaders flurry with it.

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Good morning, Pathfinder General.

I hope you aren't running any games tonight or this weekend; not only is it Mother's Day, but there's all sorts of exciting movies to watch in theaters tonight!

>>53198147
>my Sunday game is probably not going to run this week either

Thanks for the reminder, asshole. At least Friday is safe.

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>>53198147
>Watching anything other than anime
Session tonight, my players are going to be holding the line against mutants and corrupt not!Titans in a level 9 30 PB Gestalt game.

>>53198139
There are powerful Monk weapons? Do go on.

>>53198236
>in a level 9 30 PB Gestalt game.
Where was this recruiting.

>>53198249
>I can't read
The Sansetsukon is 1d10 19-20/x2. Is it as strong as the Greataxe or Greatsword? No, but it still goes up into ridiculousness with Broken Blade.

>>53198260
Group wasn't from /pfg/, and when I needed replacements I just picked the first two from the Discord that expressed interest after I linked them the campaign setting.

Help me build a punch person /pfg/. I'm playing a tiefling and I want to go punch shit up. I'm thinking of either

>steelfist commando
>dervish defender
>silver fist monk

Which one should i go and what are some essential feats for a punch build.

>>53198500
IUS, the pummeling style chain, Horn of the Criosphinx, Greater Unarmed Strike.

>>53197668

Sounds like an interesting premise.

I'd play.

In fact I wanma play. SEND CONTACT INFO

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>>53188845
Here is the order I took the feats in. A lot of this can be changed if you drop the shield stuff.

I used the cutlass because 1handed, so you can grapple while attacking with it and so you can 2-hand it, and for the crit.

>>53195410
this comment chain might also interest you.

>>53198500
Unchained monk. Dragon and/or pummeling style, elbow smash, flying kick, style mastery. Aim for dimensional dervish dragon full attack bullshit.

It is crazy effective. Broken blade should have never been published.

>>53198077
>And it's not broken with these
It's broken even if you only use unaugment unarmed attacks.

>>53198690
BP, which combat styles are worth taking and which ones should be universally ignored?

>>53198077
>And it's not broken with these
fucking wut?

Steel Flurry Strike is an abomination, and whoever read
>Make three attacks on a target enemy, inflicting up to +3d6 points of damage on each strike.
and though that
>yea this is fine
has chromosome problems.

>>53198785
I really have no fucking idea. I get a hard-on for pounce so pummeling style is my kind of thing. Dragon style is nice for the extra damage. I'm sure there are others that could work well, I just don't know much about them.

>>53198690
>Style Mastery
>With Dragon and Pummeling

Imma need a spoon here, because the feat I'm finding wouldn't work with these two.

>>53198829
Well, what about Jabbing Style chain?

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/jabbing-style-combat-style/
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/jabbing-dancer-combat/
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/jabbing-master-combat/

>>53198869
>Benefit: You can switch your style as a free action. At the start of combat, pick one of your styles. You start the combat in that style, even in the surprise round.

>Normal: It takes a swift action to begin or switch your styles.

This way you can start the fight with a pouncing full attack, an not spend your swift action on turning your style on when you can use it for KI stuff.

>>53198892
Not too impressed to be honest. It's setting up the full attack without eating one in return that can be the hard part. If set up well that damage can go to crazytown, but it still seems like it would be better spent on making things work even when you don't set up things well.

>>53198968
Oh, so Combat Style Master, NOT actually "Style Mastery", which is a completely different thing.

>>53198985
You see; your problem is that i'm a bad communicator. Once you get that sorted you will be ok.

>>53198999
You have a great deal of other problems, but that particular one sounds more like something YOU want to get sorted. Actually saying what you mean is important.

>>53199030
...that's the joke. It was a joke.

>>53199043
One of your many other problems is you're not funny

Daily reminder to PM your roll20 crush.

They're languishing without your attention.

What do you have to lose?

>>53198968
Okay. Thanks for the advice, BP. Guess I'll focus on dragon style.

>>53199030
I'm not normally one for the "le autism maymay", but you might want to get yourself checked.

The joke was literally "the problem with this game is that I'm bad at it". If you didn't realize it was a joke, bad or not, it's really telling.

>>53199099
If I talk to them and they talk to me than I might realize that they are an actual person with problems and issues, and not the sacred solution to all of my problems that I've made them to be in my mind.

>>53198654
Its not really a premise, just an archtypical story which is unusual to tell in pathfinder because adventurers dont transform, they only grow.

>>53197668
Rust monsters
Those elephant nosed cocobo things that eat magic
Steel Breaker Brawlers
Psions spamming sonic attacks

>>53199131

Quit thinking of this as an actual relationship dude, we're playing pretend and maybe we might like each other enough to be friends.

>>53195599
Not fit in what way?

I feel like they can be broken into 4 categories.

>1. technical and practical fit
Ex; Cornelius

>2. technical fit, but not practical fit
Ex; Karam. He's an adventurer you could shoehorn into literally any adventure. But he really doesnt add anything of his own to this particular story.

>3. not technical fit, but practical fit
Ex: Priscilla. She does not belong on this adventure from a logical standpoint. However, this is part of the point, she offers a fish-out-of-water dynamic to the story and has her own internally justified reasons for being here. And is still mechanically useful to the party despite not having any tomb-raiding skills.

>4. Neither technical nor practical fit.
Ex; The tengu, who has mostly the expertise of a nautical adventure which this is not, and has a personal story that would push him away from rather than into the campaign

1 and 3 are good. 2 is acceptable. 4 needs work.

>>53199320
So the question is, where do all the apps fit into these categories?

>>53195613
This... This actually fits fairly well with what Serpent's Skull is, especially when you realize Serpentfolk and Serpents in general were often fertility figures.

>>53199425

I can't be bothered to actually go through each and every one and snugly categorize them, but going off what I know about the Serpent's Skull AP I'd say Cornelius, the Good Doctor, Aurelian, Malu and Sapera have backstories and motivations that will remain relevant well into Book 3.

>>53199320
Remove Japanese characters. Remove them all.

>>53200126
>remove japan remove japan you are the worst kebab

>>53200126
I hate to say this, in a pfg thread of all places, but some of the more "anime" apps are so out of place that it hurts.

Maids, girls in frilly dresses, some chick in a kimono. Just thinking about them walking around in jungles and swamps already kills my immersion amd I'm not even applying for that game.

I am trying to decide what my character's general purpose is on the expedition for trouser snake. Originally I was going to be a doctor, but there is already a doctor. Now instead I am looking at possibly going for s linguist or botanist.

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Page 9?
New Thread!!!
>>53200263
>>53200263
>>53200263
And please remember to anime responsibly

>>53200248

I'll respond to you in the next thread, mate.