/cyoag/ - CYOA General

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Someone asked for this in the last thread.

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>>53163742

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First for word-y

>>53163742
>not letting the shitposting just die
fuck you

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>>53163687

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>>53163776

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>>53163804

ANYONE WHO WOULD SIDE WITH THE CALLERS IS MENTALLY ILL

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>>53164151
>>53164151
You don't "side" with the Callers. You become one after waking up to find your dick has been chopped off, your friends are dead, and you lost years of your life.

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>>53164151

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Friendly reminder TSCZ will never be real

>>53164208
a golden hook would be expensive but low quality

>>53164198
That picture really jiggers my triggers, my nigger.

>>53164198
Just because you wake up as one doesn't mean you need to stay one.

>>53164218
It's because of the brainfarty part of making it time stop, which I have always struggled against when trying that CYOA

>>53164198
If it's any consolation, although you've lost years of your life, you haven't lost years of your lifespan. You'll probably live longer than you would have otherwise, assuming a Defender doesn't kill you.

>>53164254
What do you mean?

>>53164232
Why?

>>53164291
Because of how realistic it is.

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>>53164254
>He doesn't want to be able to go ZA WARUDO

Look at this flamboyant gay person

>>53164254
>struggled
>can turn the time stop portion of it off at will
so you're retarded?

>>53164235
How do you stop to be a caller?

>>53164342
You can't have internet despite turning it off, because of the assumption that you won't turn it off is ingrained in the CYOA

>>53164311
If this was about cucks would it be called For the Sake of the Bull?

>>53164307
I agree.

During time stop you can fuck all the hot guys you want and it wouldn't be gay because the gay sex took place in a paradoxically non-existent period of a time and therefore never took place at all.

Only true homos would not want time stop because they want their gay sex to exist in a temporal sense.

>>53164360
...what the fuck are you talking about. Are you okay?

>>53164198
>A Paki as Captain Britain
>Not a Bengali

This really activates my almonds.

>>53163687
>fossil fuel
>inorganic matter
i thought they were organic

>>53164151
You don't side with them, you ARE one.

The sides are simply reconciliation or genocide.

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>>53164431
Keep in mind the average cyoa author has sub130 IQ. They can barely be considered sapient.

>>53164431
>water
>organic matter
the author was an idiot

>>53163742
>Drake (Rage)
Berserker time is best time.
>Bane (Caller)
Because it had to be done. Also, implying Callers aren't just another Fiend.
>Medium Melee (Axe), Medium Gun (SMG), Stealth Armor, Vitals Chip, HMD.
A good, strong axe for cutting up anything that gets in my way. SMG is for thinning out herds, or weakening tough guys at a distance. Stealth Armor makes me a more difficult target. Vitals Chip and HMD is some sweet tech to make me more effective.
>Humvee (Mounted Minigun)
Gotta make sure we get to the target site in one piece.
>Special Ops, Service Personnel
Spec Ops for clandestine operations, Service Personnel to make our base better.
>Alarm System
Having a good alarm system means we can rest easy, when we get to rest.
>Retype Weapon (Acid Axe), Nanomachines
My axe doesn't so much cut through stuff as it just corrodes. That shit has got to hurt. And the Nanomachines keep my humvee rollin'.
>Melody Shepherd
If the Callers want to kill us that badly, then fight fire with fire. I'll side with the equally kill-crazy Melody.

>>53164431
They are made of organic hydrocarbons largely a product of dead organic matter many millions of years ago.

So yes.

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Describe your favourite type of waifus in cyoas. Edit this pic if you want a visual aid.

>>53164511
The nonexistent one.

>>53164384
You can't use the internet inside your time stop chill zone because it doesn't have any way to connect to the internet.

>>53164511
Alas, nobody has drawn my waifu yet, and I'm too cheap to get a comission

>>53164565
Run an ethernet cable through the portable hole or whatever custom entrance you made.
Are you actually retarded?

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>>53164456
Attitude aside, which authors are considered to have the highest IQ's?

>>53164565
That never stopped Royal Revival. I remember than one time some anons were trying to figure out how dimensions were related by the fact that an internet connection was possible.

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>>53164511
How about a picture

Is there a female equivalent to finding out your cyoa husbando has a small dick? Not that there's anything bad about that!

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>>53164511
I love that artist desu

>>53164603
me

>>53164603
The fujoshi has a confirmed IQ of about 140.

>>53164603
SDA is probably among them, judging by his love for number crushing.

>>53164595
To do that you have to give up the teleport type entrance and have your place open for anyone to enter or escape at will if they find it. That's even worse.

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>>53164511
Creepy, pale, and with lewd bodies.

Even better if they have some sort of horrible defect that isn't conventionally attractive.

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>>53164607
>become a superpowered royal in a beautiful, magical kingdom full of desirable princes and princesses who want your dick/clit
>dedicate your life to finding a way to access 4chan

>>53164657
Short hair is hardly a defect unless she can't grow it any longer.

>>53164657
that guy is just wondering what the fuck that white foam is and hoping its only whipped cream while pretty sure it's something else

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>>53164657
I love you.

>>53164511
Traps.

>>53164621
she can't cook.

>>53164621
She has an ulterior motive for being with me.

I'll accept any physical defect, but knowing I'm just a means to an end really ruins my mood regarding a waifu/companion choice.

>>53164621
she's getting fat and/or has a flat ass or lame thighs and refuses to diet or exercise to fix it

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>>53164511
This broad covers it pretty well.

>>53164742
I'm going to amend this: she literally has no sense of taste and will never be able to cook no matter how hard she tries.

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>>53164621
A large clit.

>>53164621
finding that your cyoa waifu has small dick(feminine)

>>53164742
>>53164779
>equating a physical defect with a personality one

>>53164621
from what i've gathered the female equivalent is being a roastie

>>53164671
I just want to find a way back to Earth to increase my kingdoms size

>>53164817
The original post didn't ask for physical defects, it asked for the equivalent of a small penis in a male to female comparison. This is highly personal since there are presumably some women for whom dick size is not the be all end all of value and a direct appreciable is impossible.

So I don't really know what you want me to say. I guess really grotesque burn scars or obesity would turn me off.

>>53164511
The kind of girl you'd take to a High-impact murderfestival & fuckathon. Also Verse from Tyranny.

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>>53164511
I have jungle fever.

>>53164855
The original post asked for the equivalent of a physical defect that more or less only applies to having sex, and even there it isn't completely exclusionary. It makes no fucking sense to respond with what kind of personality is a deal breaker for you, because you were neither asked for a personality trait nor about what a deal breaker is to you. It struck me as somehow ironic that you started talking about something completely incomparable.

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>>53164835
>become a superpowered royal in a beautiful, magical kingdom full of desirable princes and princesses who want your dick/clit
>wishes to connect this world to Earth because that definitely won't end in worldwide destruction

>>53164878
>Dixie
>Not even Tiny's new design

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>>53164511
This pic pretty much sums it up in more ways than one

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>>53164511
>>53164707
Hells yeah.

>>53163687
R E D E E M E R

>>53164891
>The original post asked for the equivalent of a physical defect
>that more or less only applies to having sex

Both of these statements are patently false, the post never used any such language. You clearly have no idea how language works and cannot be trusted to convey a message using words.

>>53164915
But magic is comparable to Earth weapons your onee-chan says, and people have no protection from curse magic

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>>53164603
Highlander.

Speaking of, it's been almost a week since I made my last Traveller. Time's a wastin.

>>53163687
How do people feel about a CYOA that includes references to other CYOAs?

>>53164939
Thank you Jesus.

>>53164941
I think what you're saying applies to you a lot more than it does to me. I think that post probably struck a nerve or something, which is why you're responding to it irrationally. But that's just my impression and we aren't getting anywhere, anon, so no need to continue this.

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>>53164958

>>53164511
Big, strong, with confidence, etc bonus points for 2D brown.

I like snu snu.

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>>53164511
Blank template.

>>53164960
All depends on how well you handle it.

>>53164151
You are forced to be one, not making a choice

>>53164994
>a template applies better than anything else

>>53163687
99% sure it means mankind rather than just the male half of the species. Assuming that's the case, Redeemer is GOAT, since it doesn't leave the results of this opportunity in my flawed mortal hands.

Does someone have the newest copy of PACYOA:TE?

>>53164511
Dark brown well-muscled tomboys with playful yet affectionate personalities.

>>53164735
Saiyan or KL. Also good CYOA bro.

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>>53164511

>>53164362
That makes sense, it looks like they mostly want you for you invitation, not because they like you. Especially Annabelle since she pretty explicitly want to use you to meet the nobles she could marry.

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>>53164511
Actual brown. No spray tan moeblobs.

>>53164565
Freebies: [Room essentials]
Internet isn't explicitly said to be included, but it's the sensible assumption.

>>53164960
I do it all the time, so I'd hope it isn't disliked.

>>53165132
>But tons and tons of makeup

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>>53164511
I've fallen quite far, but I do not apologize for such transgressions.

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>>53165144
Sure, why not?

>>53165139
It is. They hate you for it. Even the people that say they like it. Especially those, since they're laughing at you.

>>53165134
Feels like that would be stretching the description way too far

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>>53164974
No problem, Anon. Stay virtuous.

>>53165132
But that's the thing about Indo-Aryan chicks, anon.

Physically, they literally are just white people with brown skin. The only difference between them and a Euro with a spraytan and dark hair is that they don't need a tan to be that color.

>>53165237
>Indian girl in traditional style has a ton of makeup on.
>Anon points this out.
>You imply it's /pol/ somehow.
Are you actually retarded?

>>53165237
>You have opinions different than me, you must be the evil /pol/ boogyman

>>53165237
>>53165255
Really it's more of an /r9k/ or maybe even /cgl/ opinion.

>>53165237
When has /pol/ mastered the art of makeup?

>>53165134
Ignoring the fact that that is a gross misunderstanding of "essential", you're in fucking Narnia, it will take years for a website to respond.

>>53163687
Redeemer. To grant the world peace and live in a paradise of my choosing? That's the best gift of all

>>53165266
Or a normal one. You can think she looks good while acknowledging that she has a shit ton of eyeshadow on. It doesn't need to be some weird 'internet contrarian' opinion.

>>53165223
I disagree. You can pretty easily tell the difference between, say, a very light skinned Persian girl and an actual Euro girl. The phenotype is still different.

>>53165284
fuck you nazi

>>53165292
>The phenotype is still different
It's literally not though. You need to learn where Persians, Europeans, and Indo-Aryans came from.

>>53165278
http://www.businessinsider.com/un-says-internet-access-is-a-human-right-2016-7

>>53165306
I don't understand. Both Italians and Swedish people are both white Euros, but you can probably tell one from the other by looking at them.

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>>53164958
>>53164979

>>53165337
I really don't understand how "too much make up" is a /pol/ opinion. It's certainly wrong, but it's not really political in any way.

>>53165337
>Thanks for the (you)
Ironic shitposts are still shitposts

>>53165336
Sure, but they have several features in common to their facial structure, hair etc. that are the same in Indo-Iranian and Indo-Aryan populations.

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>>53165336
Italians aren't white.

Also this is CYOA, choose something.

>>53165337
I don't go to pol though, I just have no idea why you called pol on that post?

Unless you were trying for some kind of irony and you're the one from pol, in which case I hope your experiment is successful?

>>53165178
That sounds about right...

>>53165437
there's a big difference between a little makeup to highlight a pretty face and a two millimeter thick layer of clown paint to hide what lurks beneath

>>53165468
Rightly wrong.

>>53165403
are there whites?
do whites exist?

>>53165505
it's a meme, anon

you be the judge

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>>53163687

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>>53165505
>inb4 anglos

The only true Whites are Aryans. And I mean actual Aryans.

>>53163783
I love this one. Makes me want to make a magical realism version of high rise.

>>53165565
>>53165403
>white vs coloured
This thread is too american.

Did SDA post that CYOA about being a tutor to a young mage girl in a steampunk setting he was talking about making in the weekend?

>>53165565
Say what you will but old men are by far the most aesthetic group regardless of race or ethnicity.

>>53165690
No.

>>53165660
>too american
Get off my website, you fucking commie.
>>53165695
Anonymous pleases old men for money!

>>53165537
>Calories
Because this will help me with my dieting. At this point, it's less about gaining muscles, and more about actually shedding the fat.
>Gain monies
Pocket change is always good.
>Language
Some times, I just really want to know what someone is saying/what a sign says/etc.

>people would rather post about who is and isn't white rather than post cyoas
You deserve all the shitposts you get

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I just realized this makes a pretty good simple CYOA.

>>53163687

>you can change history, but you can't really change history
>become a hobo
>become a rich immortal guy
>live in science fiction but it really sucks
>become a cult leader
>become a minor god
>kill almost everyone operating heavy machinery and cars
>die, purify people and be reborn as a true god

Why wouldn't you choose Redeemer? All the other options are complete garbage in comparison, especially Herald.

>>53165858
Gas harmony race war now

>>53165858
But you can pick up to two of those in the game.

>>53165883
Herald lets you molest every butthole on earth for 10 minutes before you fade into oblivion.

>>53165919
Okay, than it's Purity to secure the existence of our people and Supremacy to preserve future for white children

>>53165858
Supremacy and harmony are obviously superior.

>>53165919
Then it's a pick two CYOA.

It's a bad CYOA though because anything other than pure Supremacy or Supremacy-Harmony is obviously degenerate romanticism.

>>53165858
Purity & Harmony

>>53165993
This CYOA didn't force me to spend hours running thro empty forest and then have kid talk me down. So I'm more emotionally invested and having more fun than the game was.

Destroy is the only acceptable choice

>>53166016
Supremacy is cyborgs.

>>53166039
Well yes, everyone knows that combining cybernetics and genetics to ascend your species to the point where you can live on and bend any planet to your will while you achieve the heights of strength and intelligence possible is the best path.

>>53163687
I didn't get past the first entry.

The spelling errors were too much for me to handle.

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I have a question about the tier 1 spell Worm That Walks, it says you'll "become a plauge". Does that mean you become a cloud of insects or are you just really sturdy bones?

>>53165858
Supremacy and Harmony for evolving into a huge bio-Clarktech interdimensional crystalline spacewhale.

Maybe we'll reproduce by attaching pieces of ourselves to individual aliens, hiding out in parallel universes and applying stress to their world to force them to use the abilities we give them to their full potential, or something.
Who knows?

>>53165966

But it says they just have a "vision". That means at best, you can show them imagery of your actions. It isn't even specified to be a particularly convincing vision, just that everyone has this vision. At best, you'd shake some people's understanding of religion for a few generations.

>>53164360
>>53164565

not sure if retarded, or just didn't read,
there is no internet on the inside, for the exact reasons you stated.
which is why you can buy an option to simulate it using a super advanced AI

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>>53164511
NTR

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Do you guys think there's enough art to make an unironic black supremacy cyoa?

>>53164934
anon, you know what I'm going to ask you, don't you? Give it here anon..

>>53166103
I have a question about Enhancded Senses. Does your chosen sensory organ take on the appearance of the animal it derived from?

>>53165858
I usually quit after building cynosure. I mean, how can any of the endings possibly top creating omnipotence?

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>>53166103

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>>53166138
/pol/ should help, some guys have kangz folders with pyramids n shit

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>>53166138
Unironic? Probably. Ironic? Definitely. Either way, it must include Yakub.

>>53166105
"You will have ten minutes of time in which you can say to all people of the word wahtever you want, of feel wherever(???) you want them to feel."

But you could just make them see 10 minutes of 2girls1cup followed by smug anime face, that would be ok too.

>>53166214
Start it off with some sort of super amazing religious thing, then cut to a Rick Roll.

Become the most cancerous faggot to have ever lived.

>>53164637
>tfw to smart to finish my current CYOA

>>53166269
I will give you a powerful smug_anime.jpg if you work on it.

Can someone post that Witch CYOA?
The one where you're more powerful the more ugly you are?

>>53166330
>>53159118

>>53166358
Thanks.

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>>53166330
>the more powerful the uglier you are

Why isn't this a thing in real life?

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>>53166328

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>>53166425
Well I was waiting for agreement but whatever.

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>>53166416
This post

>>53166328
I'm working on it every day but I only have like 5 hours of free time, man. That's assuming my brain isn't burned out from work.

This weekend for sure, I'm almost finished writing all the waif--students, but I still have other sections to do and I need to work on a bit more world building/narrative. Writing and planning are the hardest part of a CYOA for me.

>>53166425
Fuck middle
Marry right
Kill left

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>>53166452
M-MASAKA!!!

>>53166457
>Writing and planning are the hardest part of a CYOA for me.
I didn't think someone like this could exist.

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>>53166457
I sass a bit but seriously, don't worry about disappointing bunch of autists on dying garbage website.

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>>53166452
Powerful indeed.

>>53166416
In real life people attribute positive character traits to good looking people, mostly subconsciously. They will be perceived as morally superior, kinder, more intelligent, etc. This basically results in them having an easier time in almost every aspect of life even if only slightly so.

Ugly people don't have that advantage, possibly even the opposite, and are therefore less likely to become succesful.

>>53166560
Not this shit again.

>>53166499
I spent one evening image hunting and came out with a few hundred images for resources, and then whipped together a comprehensible graphic layout in another few hours. Layout is easy to figure out.

Mechanics and integrating an engaging narrative with it to make -everything- seamless and not half-assed? Creative writing is hard.

>>53166515
At this point I don't care much about (you)s for my works, actually. I just wanna make things for the sake of making them. It's why I don't do the "give me ideas to make" thing.

>>53166560
In real life, good looks as adult correlates with good genes and good upbringing, such as proper nutrition. These also correlate with high intelligence, good health, high charisma and good mental health.

Good looking people aren't just treated better than ugly people, changes are, they actually literally are better.

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>cyoa gives you a free waifu
>ignore and/or cuck her because she's not perfect

Who else /ridiculously high standards even though you're a loser/ here?

>>53166597
>Creative writing is hard.
This is what I don't get. That should be the easy part. There's a reason there's more "idea guys" than anyone rightly needs or wants.

>>53166676

Idea guys don't into creative writing, though. They just come up with vague concepts, that's different

>>53166676
It's not just about spouting ideas, it's about getting those ideas to a point where they're coherent and logical within the setting you're building. It' fine and dandy to have ideas, they might even be quite good, but if you can't back those ideas with good graphical design, competent writing skill, and decent images to represent them then your ideas aren't going to impress anyone.

Execution of ideas>Creation of ideas.

>>53166676
>>53166713
this, transforming your concept into an interesting and balanced cyoa takes a lot of :thinking:

>>53166597
Huh. For me writing comes way easier than layout. Finding one efficient, unique, visually appealing and matching the feel of the CYOA is hard.

>>53166670
I don't understand why cyoas that give you the power/option to have anyone you could possibly want still feel the need to have waifus. Not companions, straight up waifus. TokHaar did that in his last cyoa.

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>Almost done, but run out of steam pages ago
>No one is waiting for it, and yet I still push as hard as I can
This is an obscure kind of feeling.

>>53166765
I find that part decent, although by the time I've worked out a good layout my motivation has died.

Having to search for art completely kills it.

>>53166713
I guess. But I never considered fleshing out ideas to be that hard. It's just taking things to their natural conclusions.

>>53166731
>>53166761
That's what I'm saying. It's all the other parts that are trickier than creative writing. But maybe I'm just the weird one.

>>53166765
Using color altering tools works nice for that

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I command and demand this become a cyoa.

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>>53166138
Do it, abundant harvest of contoversial (you)s is guaranteed

>>53166676
Have you taken any courses on creative writing? There's more to it than shitting out something from your keyboard. I should rephrase: good creative writing is hard. There's a reason why some works of fiction ate better than others. And in my experience, many "idea guys" often can't provide substance even when fueled by motivation.

Especially with a character-based CYOA, I have to write these character descriptions in a way that makes them seem human, are not one-dimensional, are likeable, are distinguished from each other (there will be 10-12 of them total), and have an appeal as a choice for the sake of the CYOA context. I spend a kong tine jist staring at the empty description box before I even negin to write notes because there's just so much to consider when understanding thr important convepts you have to present to the reader, and I only have about 200 words per character to do that. This concerns langiage choices and sentence structures.

To make things even more difficult, most of the description per character will be written as dialogue from them to you, or second person. I have to also consider the way they talk and their mannerisms with all of the above without making it sound like obvious exposition.

All of these concepts are things people consider when doing creative writing for any CYOA.

It takes me much, much longer to write a good character than to design a background. I mean, you're just colouring boxes.

>>53166779
>No one is wanting the worm CYOA
then who am I?

>>53166912
No one. Duh.

>>53166866
>all these typoes
Phoneposting while coding is not recommended

>>53166866
No, I never had any courses or anything. I just think up the basic character details and write from their perspective, letting it go where it will. I feel that doing it as dialogue just makes it easier. I don't think a dozen is that bad. I've done CYOAs with 40-60.

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>>53166866
>have you taken courses on creative writing

Sure, right after my gender studies class and my transacceptive biology blogging seminar.

>>53166977
Compelling argument there, poster. You sure showed him!

>>53166866
>kong tine jist

For a few seconds I was wondering if this wasn't some ancient germanic saying you were referencing and I was just out of the loop.

>>53166977
>studying literature is now on the same level tumblrshit

This has gone too far.

Which author is the most competent writer? Or in any case which author's writing is the most fluent and engaging?

>>53167021
>studying literature

Most of us are literate before our teens. Let alone by the time we go to college.

>>53166975
Your quantity doesn't really mean anything unless you show us the quality of your writing.

Dialogue is also harder to do exposition in.

>>53166977
Took it as an elective bird course and didn't regret it.

Are you one of those people in a STEM field who thinks they're hot shit because they're in just one of these "prestigious letters" which will all eventually be replaced with AI?

>>53167045
I think DSA has a gift for atmosphere, but they mostly write in 3-5 sentence options. HL does a good job keeping the mood up for like 200 pages.

>>53167064
To be fair, it's very unlikely that we'll get to a spot within the next 100 years where we have AI that can code itself into existence. Someone, at least for as long as we're alive, needs to write that code.

>>53167084
Not for awhile, but the AI revolution is inevitable.

Soon we will make CYOAs real in the virtual universe.

>>53166977
Are you a caveman? Creative writing is very effective and difficult.

>>53166676
Yes. These are 2 different things, because raw statistics and straight facts don't make for interested reading. Putting a feeling or a scenario in the reader's mind is a lot more difficult.

>>53166866
Was the Angel/Demon Roomate CYOA harder than the Stardust CYOA?

>>53167064
I mean, I'd rather not get into any sorta argument about writing ability. I think I've already ventured plenty far on a dangerously impolite path, so I'd rather not post examples. I just found it strange And am now sorta doubting my own ability because I don't put much thought into it.

does anybody have villainous adventure and/or dark age of woadheim? Please and thank you.

>>53167084
If AIs get good enough to replace people at tech work, they're good enough to replace writers. So i'm not sure what the retarded namefag is on about.

>>53166830

Robber-King

Institute class based society with more rights and privileges for the more valuable and essentials people and skills. Reward soldiers with lands and titles to draw volunteers and raise morale. Those without skills shall become servants, farmers, or join a work crew in exchange for the protection they receive.

As the borders expands neighboring settlements are offered to join willingly and choose a lord to govern them while paying tithes and supplying men at arms. If a settlement refuses then my army kills every male over the age of 5, those younger are given to families across the kingdom.

My successor will be chosen from amongst the lords of the kingdom, the only rule being that any lord that puts their name forward must be executed if they fail to win the vote. This is to ensure that each king is willing to put their own life at risk to lead their people.

>>53167111
I'm waiting for the first virtual internet forum. Strap on a helmet and actually visualize the 4chan mansion where you can walk yourself over to your favorite boardroom and sit down at the table of your favorite thread. Actually look at Anon (or their virtual avatar) and start talking shit at each other as well as engaging in a number of fun activities together.

>>53167064
I'm a lawfag. My profession is immortal as long as our patron, Lucifer, wills it. Now bow before me!

>>53167158
>Sliding smugs over the table to each other
Bright future

>>53167158
The average anon is way too socially awkward for that, dude.

>>53167158
>engaging in a number of fun activities together.
You mean virtually punching each other in the face, and virtually slinging monkey shit at each other, while screaming to be heard over the other screamers?

>>53167141
AI based writers will never be successful because they're a fucking royal nightmare. If we develop AI smart enough to write a decent creative story, who would then get the rights to sell that story? The guy who programmed the AI? The company that owns the computer it runs on? Does the AI itself have any right to its own creation? (Assuming it is intelligent enough to ask for that)

AI and Ethics are getting mixed in really fucking scary ways. I have no clue what will happen. I just hope I'm able to stick around and see it.

>>53166779
Could you post the first page as a wip? to see how is it going

>>53167158
They have free SteamVR games for that, I think. Would rely on voice comms, though, so no anonymity.

>>53167213
I, for one, welcome our AI overlords.

>>53167141
>If AIs get good enough to replace people at tech work, they're good enough to replace writers.

You do realize there is a difference between knowing how to insert part A into part B and constructing a narrative with engaging characters and dialogue?

That's like saying a nuclear engineer can write War and Peace, two different types of smart.

>>53167213
>keeping current IP law
>in an era where AIs exist
That's a quick route to a bad end for humanity, anon

>>53166147
The source?

I just Googled 'black futanari', I think. It was a while ago.

>>53167239
>thinks tech work is inserting part A into part B
Go ahead and design me a CPU anon. Should be super simple, right?

How would you go about making a NEET cyoa?

>>53167299
The only options are shitposting and fapping.

The mystery box is doing both.

>>53167299
See the neet dragon CYOA

>>53167324
For what not to do.

>>53166147
Crystal the Doll

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>>53167021
>now

>>53167299
Is it supposed to be pro-NEET or anti-NEET?
pro-neet would be super comfy nice cyoa where you get to pick all these nice things that come to you, anti-neet would just be welcome to the NHK

>>53167299
Widen your scope to include freeters and other little-work lifestyles. Maybe let the player pick a class like herbivore man or parasite child. Your class will get different affinities in the pool of NEET powers.

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>>53166912
>then who am I?
Keep waiting then, it's likely to be released somewhere within this century.
>>53167225
>posting WIPs
This will be a total nightmare, so I'd rather not. Well, unless more people demand for it.

>>53167239
Actually, I found the last nuclear engineering textbook I read to be a similar experience to War and Peace. They both took a little while to hit their stride, but were pretty interesting once they got into the guts of the work, and had rather bittersweet endings, albeit in opposing ways.

>>53167239
I don't know about nuclear engineering, but for most of decent level mathematics you need "useful creativity" to get results.
General theorem proving is a NP problem, so (probably) it's impossible for a computer deal with it with exact algorithms, and even if it COULD deal with it, it would need a lot of help from context to decide if a particular result is "useful" or what it should try to prove to begin with.

If an AI can deal properly with mathematics in general I don't think it would be very distant from dealing with literature.

>>53167131
Definitely not, and I don't think they're written well despite their positive reception. Quality was never my intention with those CYOAs considering the fact that I spent a day on each of them for development. Not to say I disliked working on them, I just don't hold them up as one of my better made CYOAs. Many of the concepts I posed in them are easy to grasp for good reason.

Even then, the writing was the hardest oart. The design and image hunting was almost trivial.

>>53167158
That would be hell.

>>53167179
AI can eventually understand and present policy much faster than a human being can, while simulating thousands of scenarios and reviewing archives of past events when Google has finally archived everything.

You aren't safe, but at least you're not an accountant today who will live to see himself be replaced by automation.

>googling tech stuff to automate part of your cyoa making
>all the results are diablo

I'm not sure if my google fu is too weak, or if I have transcended beyond nerddom into some unholy abomination that enjoys writing in brainfuck.

Someone shoot me just to be safe.

>>53166452
Ah yes the fabled ''Unlimited smug works'' who have you killed to get a hold of it?

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>>53163800
Most retarded CYOA choices

>He's a Man
???

Literally tyhe most stupid choices in /cyoag/.

>>53167383
If you want to have more atention wips are one of the best ways to get it

The real question is if, when everything is Automated and no one needs to work anymore, how will the economy cope? How will we make money to buy things? Will socialism reign supreme?

>>53167399
Then what other character focused CYOA you made? I only remember the Roomate one.

>>53167267
Tech work is a broad term, if you meant a AI that could design technology from the ground up you should have been more specific.

>Go ahead and design me a CPU anon. Should be super simple, right?

My skill set is more towards finding/tracking terrorists and deciphering intercepted communications. Pretty simple right?

>>53167470
Capitalism would not survive contact with full automation.

>>53167470
No, the rich will slowly get more and more money from automation, until no one has any money and they can no longer support themselves, then the world will end

>>53167496
>>53167470
communism?
anarchy?

>>53167470
>we
Won't exist by that time unless our AI overlords decide to keep us as pets, like we do dogs and cats.

>Economy
Nigga they're machines. They can just go to the next solar system over with no fucks given and harvest that energy for themselves.

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>>53166866
You act like a big dick about your characters more than you do anything else, but I've always felt that characters are by far your weakest point. CYOA makers that you'd insult as rank amateurs while you talked up your creative writing course do far better than you do.

>>53167495
>outing yourself as the FBI
Which has no bearing on the question. If an AI can do tech stuff, it can do anything, since it's obviously a strong AI.

>>53167518
Eventually wouldn't rich run out of money too though since they need people to spend money in order for them to make money?

>>53167383
This is literally the CYOA of my dreams

>>53167518
This is the short term reality, eventually followed by a period of near-anarchy and restructuring of society according to the needs and capacities of the automatons.

What I'm worried about is the gradient of these changes, a world where USA has infinite surplus and zero need but south america can't feed itself would lead to a dark future and possible reprisals.

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>>53167358
>>53167059
>STEM

>>53167136
Eh, writing comes easier to some people than others, it's a skill like any other. In school English teachers always sucked my dick about being good at writing when I never put any effort into it.

>>53167383
Why do people keep remaking the Worm CYOA? None have surpassed the original.

>>53167487
Some of my upcoming ones including the one I'm working on now, actually. Audit CYOA will also be entirely narrative driven and Gaze will be adopting a new way I'd be presenting a CYOA with concerns of narrative.

>>53167546
Yeah, that's my point. As we slowly automate more and more they'd be well off, but there's a limit that would eventually be hit, and by that point it would be too late.

There's never going to be full AI, because the issues will arise well before then

>>53167542
I can't really name any CYOA's that have very good characters, they're always so damn boring. I guess that could just be a part of the medium though. I guess the Eternal Rising one came close

>>53167136
Just ignore SDA. He likes to naval gaze and sniff his own farts. You're probably a better writer than he is, I've always found him dry and boring as hell.

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>>53167629

Which CYOA has good characters you can relate to or feel are complex and competently written?

>>53167583
Poor people don't stop wanting stuff, anon. If the 'economy' disengages from them, a new one will spring up that's disconnected from the old one.

Note that this turns the world into a shithole and the rich lose virtually all the benefits of being rich. So it's really on them to not fuck up their own future.

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>>53167658
Flatty McWorthless

>>53167542
Someone sounds threatened and is putting words in my mouth.

You realize that the only characters I've written have had like 10 word descriptions, right? And the roommate ones were more challenges of how fast I could make a CYOA than anything else?

By all means, anon. Feel free to present your better writing; I openly admit and have openly admitted that writing is my weakest point.

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>>53167680

>>53167662
Yeah, that's what I meant by the world ends, not literally, but as we know it it's all ogre

>So it's really on them to not fuck up their own future
But that's doubtful to happen. If a company can cost prices by 5% and make half of that back in profits, than every other company will want to do so too to stay competitive. Then the only way to come ahead will be to automate even more, cutting costs.

>>53167619
I think the characters in my CYOA are interesting.

>>53167658

This >>53164979

Because I wrote 15% of them, maybe more.

>>53167719
What one is that Anon? I'm not trying to be a dick or anything,I'd like to be proven wrong.

>>53167136
Lord Dunsay, who probably contributed to fantasy as a genre as much as Tolkien, never spent too much time worrying about this kind of shit and turned in all of his stories as first drafts. He definitely dedicated himself to his work, but not everyone writers like it's a thesis.

>>53167736
It's not done yet, I'm about 90% there.

>>53167569
>Not being STEM, economics, and artistically skilled
Only renaissance men are allowed to post here

>>53166499
>>53166457
Why? I find the same thing myself for some parts of a cyoa.

>>53167707
I mean, the simplest solution i can think of is to change what companies are.
They're a construct that was made back in the 18th century to solve a problem. Update them so they don't bring about the apocalypse.

>>53167766
Are you trying to say that being a renaissance man does not include studying literature?

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>>53167496
neither will any other economic system
what do you do when human beings stop being able to add value? no government can support that

>>53167531
Here's the thing about sapient AI.

By the time they come into existence, humanity will be a race of cyborgs and will have lived integrated with dumb AI for decades or centuries.

There's not going to be a 'humans are culled/turned into pets'. There's going to merely be a sublimation. Humans will be so close to the AI that they will blur together and become one class of being.

>>53167766
I want /fitlit/ to leave.

>>53167794
No, I was just replying to ">STEM", you obviously need that too

>>53167658
mine

>>53167677
>Someone says they think your creative writing sucks.
>Y-yer just scared of me!
Your ego is embarrassing.

>>53167851
It's literally his only defining characteristic.
Don't take that away from him.

>>53167677
Literally who are you?

>>53167677
>I said writing is my weakest point
>But you can't judge my writing because I haven't even TRIED yet! You haven't seen my final form!

>>53167877
If that is taken away will he disolve in to nothing?

>>53167851
It's kind of like a girl calling herself ugly to get compliments, and then getting mad when someone actually agrees.

>>53167923
It would be extremely painful.

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>>53167658
Character work is all in the dialogue and interactions. You don't get that from a bio.
Dialogue in CYOAs is dumb, they're mechanics and worldbuilding, dressing up is nice but turning it into a novel is overkill and not interesting.

>>53167943
He's a big author.

>>53167953
For you

>>53167677
Let us say, hypothetically, that I am buying a car.

I go to the lot and the only car that I can buy is a Ford Focus.

I purchase the car, and on the way home the engine explodes and I am put in the hospital. It turns out that there a defect in that line of Fusions that went unnoticed when they came off the factory floor.

Now suppose I try to sue Ford for being a shit car-maker and making a shitty car. Do you think that "You can't judge me because you don't make cars" would hold up in court?

Protip: If your answer is no, then you should probably shut right the fuck up

>>53167543
>FBI
Phhbbtt! They wish they had the cool toys we have.

>If an AI can do tech stuff, it can do anything
My argument is "tech stuff" wouldn't require much imagination on the part of the AI. It could perform hundreds of calculations to determine how to make a process more effective, yes. But if you told it to write a best selling novel it would analyze previous best sellers and essentially copy and paste them together. So yes, an AI could write a book, but without any life experiences and emotion I find it very difficult to believe people would find the book worthwhile.

>>53167946
Generally I think third person bios are better than dialogue bios. You can't get a fully fleshed out character from a CYOA (that's not a novel) either way, but dialogue bios are almost always incredibly shallow and kind of cringey. You can at least get more meat to imagine a developed character from regular bios.

>>53167992
I think maybe a line of dialogue is good, just so you can get some idea about the "voice" of the character. That only works if the author is a decent writer though.

>>53167967
There are programs which exist right now that write music. Good enough that it's hard to tell apart from human composed music. Would you say music is a non-imaginative endeavor?
I think you're vastly overestimating the complexity of writing as a skill.

>>53167967
>Without any life experiences and emotion I find it very difficult to believe people would find the book worthwhile

I'll take New York Times Best Sellers From 2005-2015 for 400, Alex!

>>53168013
Yeah a line or two is fine, but a whole dialogue box of the character telling you all about themselves usually doesn't work out as well.

If a decent author did this while playing on the fact that people aren't usually honest in how they describe themselves it could be interesting.

>>53167946
>>53168041
I find the writing opinions of someone who likes CYOAs about overly-fetishistic furries and their sex toys to be highly suspect.

>>53168041
Sock does that. And does it quite well, I think.

>>53168024
AI's still aren't good enough to naturally mimic human conversation.

>>53167658
CYOAs can almost never have highly relatable characters, as their descriptions have to be somewhat short, providing an overview of them. The best CYOA characters aren't really great characters, as they haven't had time to be developed and endeared the way a truly great character is, but intriguing and fun concepts.

I'd say the Derelict Station and Nightmare Waifu CYOAs have some of the stronger, more interesting characters around. Oddly enough the Alien Matchmaker CYOA has some surprisingly good ones, especially for a blatant fetish CYOA.

>>53168041
I tried doing that with the monstergirl refugee CYOA, but I think I fell short of what I was hoping for. It wasn't really well balanced either but I had some fun writing it at least.

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>>53167967
Any optimization that can be done via calculation requires an algorythm designer to recognize it and write the parameters first. "Tech stuff", unless it's just going through an FAQ, requires the entire extend of human creativity and problem solving. I can see an AI that can do that stuff maybe not being able to do art or some shit, but it'd definitely be strong AI.

>>53168063
Why did you quote me with the towergirls anon? We are different people.

>>53168094
>pixie archetype
Why are artistic/unique girls always so quirky and cheerful? Gloomy depressed artistic waifu when?

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>>53168063
It's good practice to always assume every post is its own person.
In this case what should have tipped you off is the contradictory opinions.

>>53167766
Forgive us for forgetting our fucking tights and bathing too much, m'lord.
I'll remember to bring the plague rats next time, I promise.

>>53168130
It doesn't say she's cheerful necessarily. Unending gloom is certainly a quirky and alternative lifestyle.

>>53167577
You're right, in that they're all shit and every successive cyoa got shittier, but it's good for this anon to have goals, right?

Maybe some day there'll be a Worm cyoa that isn't shit.
What a day that will be.

>>53167966
Except these aren't cars and they aren't products being sold, they're hobbies.

Call my CYOAs shit all you want, I don't really care.

>>53168137
It's easy to tell when you're bothered because you don't even bother to type up a reply beyond 'u mad i trol u' like this.

>>53168193
Your CYOAs are shit.

>>53168193
They're pretty garbage desu

>>53168137
>>53168193

I find it delightfully humorous that you think you can turn my loyal fans against me by being such an obvious and transparent (and poorly constructed) facsimile of my abundant excellence.

The fact that you feel so threatened that you have stooped so low as to SAMEFAG in this thread is laughable! (That means "it is able to be laughed at" for you plebeians!)

I commend you for your effort, but it is time for you to run along, The TRUE master has returned to seat the throne, and I am weary from travelling the many roads of transcendental writefaggotry that I have walked with my two feet upon the ground.

>>53168193
if you didn't care, then you wouldn't feel the need to confront everyone who says they don't like your CYOAs/your writing.

>>53168024
>Would you say music is a non-imaginative endeavor?
That depends, I find a lot of modern music to be rather unimaginative and mostly just rhythmic beats set to accompany bad singing. There's a big difference in complexity between rap music and classical.

>>53168039
I tip my hat to you.

>>53168094
I pick >>53167141 for my sacrifice

Personality: Social Butterfly
Body: Curvy
Family: Loving Home
Wealth: Old Money
Vocation: Academic

"Get to work on that AI, anon!"

>>53167992
I see it the other way. You can give bullet points for "quirky, playful, energetic," but it doesn't get across nearly as well as reading dialogue what embodies those traits.

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>>53168233
Nice try, faggot. Remove yourself from existence.

>>53168254
Nah I'm not talking bullet points, those are the lowest tier of descriptions. I meant more like paragraphs.

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>>53168233
>>53168257
We did it, lads. We made SDA suffer a psychotic break.

I'm proud of all of you.

>>53168233
>>53168257
Is SDA even real?

>>53168233
>Have you ever been so upset you've developed multiple personality disorder
Anyway not to waste my post just as a shitpost, do you happen to have any general tips for writing stats for CYOAs? I feel like most people will have an issue with vague abstractions, but for vehicle stats it's pretty hard to explain things better than say "This goes fast, but this go more fast" other than say MPH

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>>53168288
How can SDA be real if our CYOAs aren't real?

>>53168205
The fact that many of these posts are regurgitations are just funny, though. There's nothing you can do about it.

>>53168233
Not be btw

>>53168269
Even then, I feel like reading a description of someone's personality gets less across than getting an example of it.

>>53168340
Mocking is a classic coping strategy. If everyone who doesn't like you is just a 'regurgitating troll', then you don't have to confront the fact that people disagree with your opinions or dislike your content.

cyoag is getting fast, minimum 3 threads per day soon

>>53167798
For the CYOA, I would suggest selling all your shit and bailing out from that dumpster fire of city.

>>53168358
When done well sure, but 9/10 times they're as stock-personality-in-a-can as they can be, and read like an annoying anime character was allowed to talk for a few minutes.

>>53168383
Be far less fast if it didn't have a ton of shitposters

>>53166827
Looks like it's already a CYOA. I'll take the peeping PE teacher.

>>53168257
>>53168280
>>53168288
>>53168340

I did it for the (You)s

>>53168429
One of the personalities is becoming aware. Should we be concerned?

A CYOA where you get to be one a demigod on earth, complete with companions and beauracracy

>>53168451
I don't think so that way we can have two authors in one