EDH/COMMANDER GENERAL

Pls critique my Omnath deck. I've just started a new job, so I can afford some more expensive cards.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/24-04-17-bUf-omnath-locus-of-rage/

>>53156525
I'd run a few sac outlets (Goblin Bombardment + Ashnod's Altar) and then run Firecat Blitz and Tempt with Vengeance.

>>53156620
Yeah after my visit to my LGS tonight, I've been think I need sac outlets.
If I did, I would definitely through in tempt with vengeance.

Why Firecat Blitz though? Just because it's an X spell?

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>spell that killed ulamog
>doesn't kill ulamog

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>>53156747
>i'm a ding dong who didn't read the story: the post

>>53156723
throw in** fuck me

>>53156525
I would 100% add greater good, that card is insane. Also I think you should add nature's lore, three visits (if you can justify the cost) and skyshroud claim, since those are the best green ramp spells

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>>53156723
Firecat Blitz has been errated. It now makes Elemental Cats. People in LGSs are going to call bullshit, but Gatherer is on your side. The flashback for Mountains is also pretty great.

Anyone mind helping with making cuts?
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/g-e-n-g-h-i-s-k-h-a-n/
I want to add Vizier of Many Faces, Cryptbreaker, Vengeful Pharaoh, Craterhoof, and Greenwarden of Murasa. Thinking of cutting Think Twice, Shriekmaw, and Cagebreakers.

>>53156895
I think what you cut ultimately depends on what you want to be doing with the deck. All of those cards are good power level, but they are split between zombie tribal/bug goodstuff/graveyard combos. I think if you want to change cards you should focus on one aspect, trim down on the cards that don't contribute to it and commit to a "theme."

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didn't get any responses last thread. can i get some suggestions?

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/captain-sisay-enchantress/

>>53157015
Your list looks pretty tuned, you should probably just playtest to try to find what works and what doesn't. One thing I notice is you don't have song of the dryads, which is just better than banishing light imo.

>>53157068
i'm waiting for one now actually. it's going in for lignify.

>>53157015
I think I'd rather run Harmonize over Commune w/ the Gods

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>>53156485

I tried building a Mono B zombie tribal deck with a small Liliana theme, and I tried to do it with only cards I own in my collection. In the end it was honestly the worst deck I have ever built in my life.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/black-flowers/

>>53156485
This one >>53157147
Also reposting for the anon who wanted to see it last thread.

>>53157205
Fuck, wrong post number. Here's the right one.
>>53157173

>>53157205
I actually feel the opposite. Every time I've seen someone play Aetherflux, everyone focuses them to prevent them from getting over 30ish life.

>>53157229
>>53157230
Sorry anon, I linked to the wrong post.

>>53156485
i used to run as many clones as i possibly could in every edh deck i built because i'd rather just copy someone else's good stuff than make a good deck of my own. plus they doubled as kill spells for legendary permanents if i needed that back then.

now i only put clones in the deck if they're really good clones (progenitor mimic) or important to a combo the deck has (phyrexian metamorph + sharuum).

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>>53156485

One of the few good EDH cards from Amonkhet. Especially if you run some sort of Token Doubler.

So did the Kaladesh block add make more contributions to commander than standard? Seems like nearly every artifact from it has a place in any deck I'm just annoyed that Amonkhet was such a shit set but at least I got an ygo card from it

>>53157285
Kaladesh made the entire top three standard decks (Copycat, Vehicles, Constrictor), meanwhile it only added like two cards to commander.

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>>53157285
this one's pretty spicy in nekusar

>>53157167
Most of those creatures are awful but if you're making this for casual jank it will probably be fun. I'm in a similar boat trying to make banana man without using combos

>>53157306
The quickest glance at edhrec suggests you're talking bullshit, and Kaladesh added all kinds of shit. Fumigate, Insidious Will, Aetherflux Resevior, Inventor's Fair, Panharmonicon, etc

>>53157339
The infamous Paradox Engine.

>>53157336
I promise it wasn't actually very fun, not even for casual.
Who exactly is the Banana Man, that sounds ominous

>>53157349
tasigur

>>53157347
And Disallow, Planar Bridge, Trophy Mage

>>53157355
Banana?

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>>53157363
i bet he's gonna shove them right up his ass

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>>53157167
Gravespawn Sovereign?

Also, thoughts on this? Seems like it could be fun value. Not being able to target white or black is iffy, but it seems like there would be plenty of targets in free for all games

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>>53157363

Banana.

>>53157281
Its a downside to both clone and body double but it does have the gy recursion on the chance it dies. Still a reliable card.

>>53157349
>>53157363
Tasigur's art has a zombie next to his throne with bananas in its skull.

Threadly reminder that no Bryan's are welcome in the House of Anus-Angus. Enjoy the taste of the door, you well-adjusted individual.

>>53157394
Supa bad. It's not going to be able to target a fucking thing, you're forgetting multicolored. And it's so literally nothing.

>>53157394
Siphon flesh is better imo

Who's best for YourStuff.dec, Sen Triplets, Gonti, or Jeleva?

>>53157412
how long is this lover's spat gonna go

just get to the makeup sex already

>>53157438
Hm hm, a bisexual man testing the waters of his sexuality with a joke.

>>53157412
It was funny the past few times but not so much anymore, please stop before this thread gets ruined by autism battles.

>>53157438
>He's not down with the rich lore of EDH general

Pity unto you, anon.

I picked up a Temmet at a card shop today solely because some Anon here inspired me with his living weapons idea, and things like Desolation Twins and Geralf. That was a great idea guy. This post is a monument to my muse. I also grabbed a Hapatra but she's probably just going to rot.

>>53157446
Expect the reminder every thread until Bryan understands his place in the world. EDH isn't a format for anything short of the most socially repugnant of troglodytes.

>>53157490
I concede, you're right and I'm leaving. So you should settle down.

I'm building a Jeskai prison/stax deck, but I can't decide what commander to use. I don't really want to play partners, Numot gets hated off the table because anything that destroys lands triggers my lgs, and the rest are all indifferent to the game plan. What do I do?

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>>53157490
>EDH isn't a format for anything short of the most socially repugnant of troglodytes
Is that why you play it?

>>53157500
>Bryan was behind bryanposting the entire time
This myth has been busted

>>53157445
well shit he's edgier than me

guess i lose

>>53157517
Breya.

>>53157517
What you should do I think is reconsider your stance not using partners, and try Ishai & Kraum for tax-ish effects and two flying bodies.

How safe are enchantments? I feel like answering them with removal is less common than creature and artifact removal.

>>53157582
Depends on the enchantments role in the deck. Mono B has no real way to deal with enchantments besides Feast of Dreams and Red has only slightly more in the form of chaos, Blue can bounce them back while White and Green can destroy and exile them. Also depends on your meta but most decks run a healthy number of removal for anything

>>53157500
Thank me not, fair citizens of this general, for the greatest reparations I may receive is the joy in knowing that we may thrive in our metas by bullying people out who dare to assault us. For what is slamming doors but not the final level of politics?

>>53157582
you're correct

>>53157537
>Is that why you play it?
This better not be a fucking Jojo reference in my fucking thread. I just came here to have a discussion about the one thing I find enjoyable and assnapkins like you need to smear your posing fetish porn all over this goddamn thread. There's an entire fucking containment board for you to do that. Holy shit dude enough is enough.

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Alternate Art for Samut, Voice of Dissent.

I couldn't help myself.

Apparently redudnancy is bad thing.

Daily reminder, redudnancy is bad, only if you consistently have multiple pieces that do the same thing without any added benefit. Redudnacy is pretty much a necessity for any consistent strategy.

>>53157696
Nevermore is also bad apparently. Who knew outright stopping an opponent from playing any single card is kind of a weak effect.

>>53157690
Even if this is pasta its autistic pasta

>>53157694
>implying that card can be fixed with animu

>>53157706
Obviously it's a bad card, especially against R and B or Rakdos. Why should anyone even want to play with such a narrow card, not like there's always one good target to name for it.

>>53157582
People in my meta have started swapping out rec sage for manglehorn, so they're even safer now

>>53157721
You realize there's a whole lexicon of words available for you to express your opinions. You don't need to keep reusing that word. The context here isn't even that applicable. Pasta can't be autistic. Sentences can't even be autistic.

>>53157706
I prefer Voidstone Gargoyle but that's fine too.

@53157747

Cute.

>>53157747
I dunno anon, that sentence of yours was pretty autistic.

>>53157767
You must also realize that responding to charlatans by not directly linking there post is in no way staving off off-topic posting. You are still perpetuating the conversation. Surely you must not think that someone who wishes to actively derail a thread will cease simply by not see post directly linked to their post, right?

>>53157796
Please describe to me how a sentence can be autistic. The context is not very applicable so I'm curious to what kind of rhetorical hoops you jump through to make seem as such.

>>53157724

Personally I'd rather make her a Jackal anyways. Why did they have to go human, does Wizards think people won't care about a character if they aren't human? Do they think a little kid pulling out a badass Jackal won't say "Awesome!"?

>>53157847
It's very simple anon. You're telling a stranger on the internet that you are "curious to what kind of rhetorical hoops" they're jumping through. You are quite clearly autistic. And much in the same way that a sentence written by a retarded person can be retarded, a sentence written by an autistic person can be autistic.

>>53157855
Well with how people received Ajani during Lorwyn, I'd say that's a well founded concern. Not a lot of people cared for him much, the average player prefers humans and anything that's human with a small discrepancy i.e. elf ears but still 99% human, or the Soratami/Tamiyo race. Exceptions are the dragons but that's because they're badass dragons that exude an aura of power.

Otherwise don't get your hopes up for any non-human/humanoid character/protag, they're gonna be antagonists usually.

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Just how strong is Riku? I've never seen him played since the first week or so he was out. I wanna try building him but if he's too strong for a casual meta I'll shy away.

>>53157883
>And much in the same way that a sentence written by a retarded person can be retarded, a sentence written by an autistic person can be autistic.

No see, this is the logical disconnect. An autistic person can say any sentence and it doesn't become autistic. Now you can (vaguely) deduce whether or not the person making the statement is autistic based on how they describe their interactions with different social situations or how they perceive emotional stimuli, or what would be as such for a normal person. But a statement itself can't be autistic because a statement can't have autism. What you meant to say was, "Your sentence was indicative of someone who has autism;" but even then it's a bit of a dubious claim because I made no mention of anything about myself that would lead one to diagnosis of autism. Please be more precise with your wording as it comes off as sloppy and careless.

>>53157883
thatsthejoke.jpg

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>>53157475
That's spicy. Have a decklist?

>>53157946
Depends. You can build him pretty strong, since he does shit like go infinite with just himself and Palinchron. Most of the time he's just janky as fuck though.

>>53157475
You mean you came to the conclusion everyone with a fully functional brain came to when Temmet was spoiled? How totally ingenious of you to literally just scroll through his EDHREC page and make a deck. Truly a master of innovation.

>>53157430
Gonti is super fun
Jeleva is played by neckbeard competitive autists playing Storm so you will instantly see a lot of hate when you place her down even if not running a good list

>>53157517
Go UW and play Hanna

>>53157339
>Fumigate, Insidious Will
I mean yeah you can play Toolcraft Exemplar too but that doesn't mean you should dumbass.

It gave us Paradox Engine and another dumb easily disrupted tool for Sydri to end the game as if she didn't already have like six of those.

Had a great game of EDH tonight at my stores league. Was playing Teysa, Orzhov Scion. Long game but a lot of fun and thankfully no degenerate stuff that tends to happen at league despite there being rules that give you negative points for certain in game actions.

>>53158120
Disallow is pretty highly saturated in blue decks. Heroic Intervention should be in every green deck as well.

Anyone got a budget Ashling, the Extinguisher list?

>>53158216
99 swamps

>>53158238
Epic meme but thats the wrong version

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>>53158253
You should know I know that by the land type I mentioned.

Checkmate.

>>53157405
>Its a downside to both clone and body double

It's almost strictly better than Clone, since getting one more blue mana isn't particularly demanding, and it's completely different from Body Double. The metric to measure the Embalm against is Cackling Counterpart, and there are tradeoffs to either.

>>53158155
I'll give you Heroic Intervention, but Voidslime never saw play at any point, I'm putting Disallow into the played because it's new and weird category.

>>53158273
Allow me
Vizer
>perfect copy of clone
>1 mana more to get back
>9 mana total
>creature tutors get him
>has infinite combos
>needs help to get instant speed
cackling counterpart
>always instant
>can only target your creatures
>10 mana total
>more restrictive type for tutors
>has infinite combos
>can be used as a psuedo counterspell
against spot removal

Viscera Seer vs Carrion Feeder?

>>53158438
Should be obvious.

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>playing edh with friends
>opponents lazav mill, Mike trike tryhard, meren value
>playing damia value
>Mike decides to not win on the spot for sportsmanship, he did it last game
>exile the combo pieces
>get rid of some of meren 's spicy tech with deathrite
>grind everyone down with repeatable value
>win via vraska tokens and shut-out
Today, lessons were learned

>>53158438
Carrion Feeder

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>patron of the moon foil scarcity

is this the fate of every single print legendary?

How do your groups handle politics? Literally everyone in my group is a shit-flinging backstabber, so no one ever bothers making deals with anyone and deckbuilding leads to all-in strategies or you just get killed.

>>53158824
Yes, get them while u can friendos.

>>53157885
That pisses me off because I love monsters the most. We nees more treefolk and crazy beasts or hydras. Giant bugs or fish monsters or some shit.

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>>53159035
beeople

>>53158824
Fuck this gay Earth.

>>53158859
We never do more than form temporary pacts to deal with a huge threat.

>>53159035
I agree, but we also need more pirates.
>pirate bugpeople living on treefolk ships
Wizards pls

>>53159131
>treefolk with bugpeople clerics living in them who travel the land and offer aid to others
mitebcool

Speaking of clones: what's your guys' opinion on Sakashima clone tribal?
People seem to either find it fun to play (against) or hate it for just copying everything, with the reasoning of "might as well just play a different deck if you'll just copy everything anyway".

Where is a good site to find budget variations of decks?

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/08-05-17-harvest-season/

Posting this again hoping for some more advice on removal, ramp, and clones. I am already aware of Blade of Selves and am trying to get it.

>>53159171
Speaking of clone tribals...

>>53159178
Google is a pretty good site imho. Have you tried building the deck yourself and searching the gatherer for effects you need?

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>>53156485
My Braids deck has a few clone effects. It's probably my favorite deck I've ever made since it's the most fun to pilot.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/o-n-c-e-i-n-a-l-i-f-e-t-i-m-e/

>>53159171
I like the idea, but there's the issue that you're not gonna end up with good synergies most of the time. So, the deck is gonna end up goodstuff-y anyway and suffer from same issues as one usually.

>>53157015

how about skyship weatherlight? Seems fitting for Sisay, and it lets you tutor for nonlegendary creatures and artifacts.

Looking for tech that allows for the sacrifice of one creature to put a +1/+1 counter onto another if the target creature doesn't already have an ability like that. Either that or a janky way to do something similar.

>>53159542
Literally Cannibalism.

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>>53159198
Bumping this wishing I wasn't only ever active during dead hours.

>>53159218
no willbreaker?

>>53156811
You are a ding dong as well. As is WotC, remember that eldrazi titans could only be harmed by colorless mana because they'd just suck up colored mana? WotC apparently doesn't either.

>>53157230
You're kinda supposed to play it when you're above 50 already, or in cantrips.dec

>>53159823
Leylines and shit obviously.

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>>53160153
I want to die

>>53159823
It's easy to kill them though, just do a phantasmal copy of them and let a hornet sting the copy and voila, no more ulamog

>>53160193
Come to think of it, is there a legendary rule for the lore part anyway?

>>53156485
Why does blue attract people with emotional issues?

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>>53158824

Is this a thing? I got a foil one for a few bucks like last year.

>>53160245
Because it offers them the illusion of mental control.

>>53160245
I would rather play red but red is bad and people didn't want me to play it, so I became blue to hurt you all.

>>53160245
When I play red people hate me.

>>53160245
What? Do you imply that mentally sound people play MtG at all? It's just not the blue, salty gruulfag

>>53157946
Riku is pretty great for what you're looking at actually.

You can just pick a theme and go to valuetown with bad cards(or good/less than optimal), perfect for a casual meta.

>>53160320
Yes, usually the people who play the deck that wins without caring for the flavor.

>>53157885
Viashino are cool as fuck though

so are nuntuko

>>53160358
Eh, I win most of the games with Ayli cleric tribal. Besides, a deck can be flavorful and strong, not to mention that having blue in your deck doesn't make it automatically a netdecked, unflavourful or strong.
Your post was really off point

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help

Is there a clone that mirrors things happening to the creature?

Would be cool to have one reading
"This creature enterd the battlefield as a copy of target creature. When this creature or the one targeted by this effect takes damage or becomed the target of a spell or ability, deal that much damage to the other creature or create a copy of the spell or ability, targeting the other creature.

When the creature targeted with this card's original effect leaves the battlefield, destroy this creature."

Alternatively, make it an Aura creating a token of the creature that dies when the enchantment is destroyed.

>>53160972
I really hope that's a green deck, or at least a mono brown deck.

>>53160245
Why does Gruul exclusively attract retards? Why is black played by edgelords? Why does white have the biggest driving-cap-wearing faggots?

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>>53161251

>tfw mono red master race.

Do you guys not have decks of different colors or something?

>>53156485

I used that on Breya once to make a fuckload of Thopters and win that way.

>>53157694
Smut, Voice of Dicksent

>>53160972
and I thought my 3.84 was high

>>53157946
Here's my deck. Riku himself is pretty winmore creature so I just use him for the fuck of it. This deck could be much stronger and optimized, as you can see it only runs one infinite combo and practically no tutors. It's full of pet cards as well.

Riku can be as casual as you want him to be.

>>53161399
>he doesn't autistically defend a single color and shit talks the others

>>53161261
>density
wewew

>>53161561
forgot the link http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/riku-etbs-and-spells/

>>53161399
If you're a poorfag, you can only really afford to focus on one or two colors. For the longest time I only played mono B because I was a jobless college student.

>>53161399
I only really like blue and black. Why muddy the purity of my deck with an inferior color? real talk: I like to do a handful of things in this game and they're all found in those two colors. I don't need a huge variety of deck styles to hold my attention either. There is plenty of variety within the game already.

>>53161577
This. I get a kick out of being ardent tribalist.

>>53161734
I feel the same way. I will never play white, ever. Just not my cup of tea.

>>53161399
I can't run mono color decks in my meta due to being tryhards except for green since I have the optimal green cards. Too much enchantments to run black and I dislike white and red by themselves

Alright dudes, tear me a new asshole:
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/full-circle-3/

>>53161577
You're right, I don't have a strong affinity for any of the colors. Each of them offer me something valuable.
Blue gives me cantrips.
Green gives me land manipulation.
Black gives me graveyard shenanigans.
Red gives me explosive plays.
White gives me something to complain about.

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I'm an edgelord that was always into mono-B control/reanimator, but now I'm so hooked on the whole diversity & utility of multicolor, that even Grixis doesn't cut it. Monocolor is enjoyable no more and that makes me sad.

>>53162226
>Labman

Other than your shit wincon it looks ok

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>>53162313
Lab Man is so boring to play against.

>>53159823
Jace bound their forms to the plane, Nissa fattened them up with mana, and Chandra cast fireball for "yes"

>>53162313
>>53162345
I can't claim to be the most creative.

>>53159157
termitebcool

I like mixing up my color choices every once in a while. If I had the money to do so, I would probably have a deck for every single color combo.
If I was autistic enough and had the money, I would make a deck for (almost) every single legendary creature

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>>53162245
You just have to find a General and a strategy that you like and go with it.

Like me and my mono-White Soul Sisters deck.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/jareth-soul-sisters-edh-2/

>>53162313
What if I throw in a blue sun and deck everyone else?

>>53162602
There are a lot of gorgeous monocolor generals, and most strategies are doable in mono-b, but color pie makes it incredibly hard to deal with enchantments or artifacts for example and those are often tailored to ruin your day for the whole game. Even Gonti doesn't quite do it.

Also, compare token generals like Endrek Sahr (6 trulls tops, 5cmc, needs to cast creatures or specific cost, bear body, mono-b) to Prossh (6 cmc, 6+ free tokens, 3 colors, instakill potential, all the best sac outlets and fodder, dragon body). I would gladly play Endrek for flavor reasons, but it's still a game with a winner, so I'm hindering myself severely.

>>53162229
>white
What? For having answers to literally everything that exists?

>>53162774
For being vanilla, boring and lacking any appreciable card draw.

>>53162774
FUCKING WHITE MANA

Are any of the Ascendant/Essence flip cards good? Obviously Erayo is, but she's banned, so how about Homura, Kuon, Rune-Tail, or Sasaya?

>>53162755
That's just as boring as labman why not try winning through combat damage

>>53162874
At least I can drag others in my misery when I play Boros. MLD makes UGA babbies mad. Although my UW makes them ever angrier

>>53162921
W..with labman? I dont know if I can do it sensei!

>>53162921
>combat is somehow more interesting than Labmanning
Not only are you a massive casual, but a stupid one as well. Only thing that makes combat any "interesting" is the possible triggers there might be

>>53162380
That's wrong though, nissa used the leylines in a way that chandra could channel her fireball using the mana of the entire plane.

Which is still retarded since only colorlerless should hurt them.

>>53162921
>slogging through 160 points of life
>with 4 creatures in the 99
>each clocking for 2
>one opponent is playing oloro
Sweet Jesus

Haha! I finally figured it out! An Naya infinite combat combo! It's 5 pieces, extremely easy to disrupt, but it works!

You need:
A Sac outlet
Saffi Eriksdotter
Karmic Guide
Reveilark
Aurelia (or any other creature that gives you an extra Combat step for free)

First, attack with Aurelia. When the second Combat step happens, you have to do the combo before you get to the declare attackers step. Sacrifice Saffi targeting Reveilark. Sacrifice Auerila and Karmic Guide to the sac outlet, then sacrifice Reveilark to the sac outlet. Reveilark comes back due to Saffi, use Reveilark's etb trigger to return Saffi and Karmi Guide, and Karmic Guide's etb to return Aurelia to the battlefield and attack again. Because it's a "new" Aurelia you get another Combat step, repeat the steps, and there you go, Infinite combats!

Easy to disrupt though. Destroy the sac outlet, of course, or exile any of the pieces before the sac outlet is out, or kill Reveilark after its etb trigger goes on the stack but before it resolves and Saffi comes back into play. Though I suppose you could sac Saffi targeting Karmic Guide, sac Karmic Guide and when that comes back into play grab Reveilark and grab Saffi.

So yeah.

>>53163046
>winning with Riku against five other players with just Palinchron and Anger.

looking for final touches advice for my deck, let me know!

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/rishkars-counter-army/

>>53163077
Make sac outlet Goblin Bombardment or smth to deal damage and you now have a combo that can only be disrupted with graveyard attacks, since you can continue the loop in response

>>53163024
>not winning through sheer power instead of political bullshit or combos

Fucking nerd

>>53163102
Dramatic Entrance

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Free mah nigga Emmy.

>>53163198
>Dramatic Entrance
good card but a bit expensive for what it can do. I rather tutor things for cheaper

>>53162911
They're all good in their own ways.
Sasaya is good for mono-G land ramp and X cost spells and abilities.
Rune-Tail is just good in every White or part White deck, especially since he flips instantly at the start of the game.
Homura is a bit tricky because you have to kill him yourself most times, but he makes all your guys big flyers with firebreathing.
Kuon is good for Black control or stax.

>>53163213
honestly, what for? he's just a big I Win button that will only make spikes spike harder.

>>53163077
Alternatively, you can just slap a Bear Umbra on Hellkite Charger.

>>53163216
Reasonable. Your deck looks pretty good. Maybe try out a crop rotation and replace reliquary tower with ancient tomb or a blighted woodland. Trust me, you don't need the tower. Even if you over draw.

>>53163254
Exactly.

>>53163258
Or just attack with a Savage Ventmaw while having Aggravated Assault out. You even get mana out of it.

>>53163254
Except for the fact that every color has cheaper and better I win buttons.
Doomsday, in garruk's wake, insurrection, tooth and nail, defense of the heart, insurrection, craterhoof, genesis wave, cyclonic rift, not to mention the hundreds of combo's that are much easier to assemble and much better at giving you the win than emrakul. Emrakul wouldn't even see play in any competitive deck.

>>53163287
those are good suggestions. Crop rotation...MAYBE since in most of my games ive been perfectly comfy with just drawing forests, but tutoring out ancient tomb would be cool. Reliquary tower is just good utility.
Ive very often drawn 10+ cards due to combos/draw spells and having to ditch them with no gy recursion in my deck is pretty painful.
I think Ancient Tomb and Blighted Woodland are good though I might add that in.

>>53156485
>op image
Hory shit
Gonna get me one of those.
That + myr propagater = broken AF

>>53163332
>implying board wipes are win cons

>>53163254
this, getting 15 mana is so easy it isnt even funny even in colorless decks. plus one he is out there is basically nothing you can do about it. we house ruled him legal one week and banned him back the same night a while back. even the guy playing him thought it was total bullshit

>>53163332
is this bait? I honestly can't tell considering the level of autism in this general.

>>53163352
you should note that the eight artifacts don't have to have the same name as the enchanted artifact, just as each other

I need help.

I used to play casual, fun EDH. I really enjoyed it. However, "casual EDH" has SUCH a broad range of power levels that it became extremely frustrating when my ACTUALLY casual EDH deck went up against a "casual EDH" deck that would be far closer to a competitive level than my decks would be.

So I started to change, started to build my decks to be more and more powerful, and now I'm the guy with the douchey semi-competitive deck stomping on people playing actually casual decks, and they don't want to play with me because I'm blowing up their lands and countering their shit.

Where is the fucking balance man? Is this format just doomed to NEVER be actually balanced? It's a fucking mess, "casual" means so many different things to so many different people. Why aren't there some official guidelines in place for this shit? Why is it that winning on turn 4 with an infinite combo is "competitive" but winning on turn 4 with infect damage isn't, or winning on turn 4 with commander damage, etc.

>>53163340
Rotating into nykthos is the real value my dude, and later gaea's cradle when you have the cash. You might also consider sylvan library.

>>53163431
Just find a chill group that agrees to build fun nonsense like every player using a different Kirin (desu that's probably more miserable than fun but you get the idea).

>>53163438
ah true...yes Nykthos is real good. But what to replace for crop rotation? I already have a lot of difficulty making space due to how consistant the deck is.

Also regarding sylvan library I really prefer Mirri's Guile

How to go about telling the one guy in the group that his decks are clearly more powerful than everyone else's and that maybe he should take them down a notch so that we don't all buff our decks just to match his and thus make games less fun/interesting?

>>53163508
mention it to them. its likely they have other decks with them. I did once to this dude with his crazy stax deck that just locked all of us out and he switched. just be nice

>>53163508
Have you tried telling him exactly that?

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What preconstructed commander deck should I purchase? I currently own a casual elves legacy deck casual modern zombie deck I like having fun I like blue but it also like a duck with a bunch of fun stuff in it, any ideas?

>>53163508
If he's not getting the hints that you all don't like playing against his decks, then you're gonna have to just tell him outright that his decks aren't fun to play against.

>>53157475
If you've got a Hapatra, try her as the commander with all her usual artifacts, throw in a Glissa and yet more artifacts.

No one expects the artifact-heavy deck in BG. I mean, they expect some of that with Hapatra and more with Glissa, but still.

>>53163539
>a duck with a bunch of fun stuff in it
that's a funny mental image

>>53163539
most of the C16 decks are actually really good out of the box (but more expensive than retail now due to price spikes).
I'd honestly recommend any of them. I bought Breya Yidris and the Gay Kangz and I have a lot of cards that I mix and match between them and for my other decks.

>>53163358
>assymetrical board wipes aren't wincons in creature based decks

>>53163409
How exactly would emrakul shake up the format? There are so many better ways to win.

>>53163530
His weakest deck can kill someone on turn 5 or 6 with a massive enchanted creature that has regenerate and totem armor and the like. He calls it his "fun group hug" deck...

>>53158353
is u different than u/g??

>>53163632
thats a voltron deck. just mention it to him. if he keeps doing it itll just ostracize him from the group, itll push him to build somehting more casual

>>53162774
For being uninspiring, mostly.

>>53158353
heroic intervention is a life saver. Playing against those land destruction group hug decks and using it really fucks them

>>53163651
No it's actually just beating faces with hexproof regening flying creatures with 5 enchantments on them. The commander is the green white parley guy.

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>>53163539
c16 decks are pretty good though you will have to do some work on the mana base to make them playable, nothing major just add some pain lands in place of the numerous tap lands will do the job. i personally find the c15 decks to be pretty good although many people think they are too linear. i dont have any experiance with the planeswalker decks though most people seem to think the red one is the only good one. i also have the mind seize c13 precon which i have since upgraded but i really like it. the problem with anything pre 2015 is that the sealed form is pretty expensive usually for the better ones

pic related, its my favorite of the precon commanders

>>53163368
You can do plenty to emrakul, any etb, any non damage boardwipe, any oblivion ring effect, even fucking icy manipulator and effects like it.

Also, you've said this before but 15 mana is NOT easy in colorless. It's easy in Kozilek 1 and 2 because when you reach 10 mana and have almost no hand left you get to draw into some more mana sources.
If Emrakul was your commander your hand would be empty before reaching 15 at least half the time, since colorless has fuck all for draw besides staff of nin and mind's eye. And if he isn't your commander than you're hardcasting a 15 mana fatass turn 5-8, how is that unfair?

Even monogreen can't get to 15 mana that easily, 15 is way more than 10 (although monogreen would be better at cheating it out).

If you're cheating it out then jt's also hardly more of a problem than blighsteel or the other old titans

I just got a sealed Invent Superiority for $30...but its Japanese. Was this a bad purchase?

quick question

When you play something and it is on the stack, you cannot counter it if it says something like "pro-blue" or "pro-instants" right? Or is it only when it is on the field that it gains the protection?

For example, I play New-rakul and someone plays a counter spell targetting it

>>53163712
>I dont have any experiance with the planeswalker decks though most people seem to think the red one is the only good one

Daretti is only good based on the value of cards in it namely Wurmcoil Engine and besides that its a clusterfuck of a deck

>>53163805
Protection only works when the permanent is already on the battlefield.

PSA: OCTGN is the best free forum for playing Magic online. Needs a bigger community but it has BY FAR the most advanced UI, deck building tools, automatic board realignment and automatic token creation, etc.

Cockatrice is such shit and xmage is so buggy I don't get how anyone uses those when OCTGN is a thing.

>>53163487
I'm drawing a blank on that one. Deck space seems tight. You could try shaving a land, like reliquary tower :^)

>>53163849
>stop liking what I don't like: the post
alternatively
>people aren't allowed to have different likes and tastes than my own

>>53163871
No not really, it's actually "Here's some information about a vastly superior product that you haven't checked out yet."

>>53163799
Not if you don't mind your cards being Japanese. There's not a lot of market if you want to resell though.

>>53163849
>OCTGN
looks ok. How long until a working MTG platform is made?

>>53163709
Selvala? She's pretty good, T2, but loses to a lot of stuff.

>>53163944
>T2 is his "weakest deck" in casual EDH.

>>53163938
Octgn is a working MTG platform. Also has a lot of other games you can play on it, but I just play EDH on there.

>>53163313
>>53163258

Yeah, okay, true, but what's more fun, a two card combo or a rediculous 5 Part combo?

>>53163137
I figure I'd have more than one sac outlet, definitely Goblin bombardment. Any other suggestions?

>>53163799
Foreign version of cards usually can go up in value while the normal versions are stagnant, for whatever reason. I think It was a good purchase

>>53163991

Ridiculous*

>>53163989
oh nice. how big is the community?

>>53163914
I should have put for reselling. I have no intention of playing the cards because I bought an english one at launch

>>53163755
>Oblivion Ring
How could you possibly oblivion ring the thing if it has protection from colored spells?
>Icy Manipulator
Awful card, why run it?
>Any etb
Such as?
>Any damage boardwipe
That's not bad, but you're forgeting those are all sorceries, so unless you have a way to quicken them you'll steal eat annihilator 6 and 15 flying damage to the face.
Im not saying the card is unbeatable or any of that, but it was banned for a reason my friend.

>>53164244
I meant "still eat"

>>53164244
Oblivion ring is spell on the stack and an enchantment when it resolves and it's triggered ability (the thing doing the targeting) is not a spell.

>>53164244
>Oblivion Ring

Obilivion ring' exile is a triggered ability (ETB), and protection from spells does not work on that.

>>53164014
Not big enough at the moment, that's why I'm giving it some free advertisement here lol.

>>53164244
Etb's such as fiend hunter, noxious gearhulk etc.

Also, I said effects like icy manipulator, obviously staff of domination works. Also, instant speed boardwipes do exist, rout for example. Then you have edicts, permanents that can kill creatures (avatar of woe and friends), and all the pillowfort running around that prevents people from attacking.

The only things that don't work are colored targeted removal spells, there are so many things it gets hit by.

Speaking of her, does cannibalize work on Emmy, since it says "choose" and not target?

>>53164409
The problem with Emrakul isn't removing it, it's the fact that unless you're playing Blue or you happen to have some kind of instant/flash removal in hand when it comes out, you're gonna have a 15/15 flyer coming at you with Annihilator 6 immediately, since oldEmmy gives the extra turn to remove its summoning sickness.
Not to mention all the other things the person that played it is gonna do in that extra turn to further their advantage.

>>53164465
No, since it says "target".
Any spell with "target" anywhere in it can't target oldEmmy, and any instant with "target" can't target newEmmy.
It would have to say "choose" without ever saying "target".

>>53164503
For that you'd need to hardcast her. Wasn't the big problem about her that you could cheat her in? If you're actually spending the 15 mana then I don't think that "take an extra turn, target opponent takes 15 damage and sacrifices 6 permanents" is all the egregious. Especially when tooth and nail basically says "9 mana: you win the game" and protean hulk says "7 mana: when protean hulk dies you win the game".

>>53164600
I refer you to all the mana rocks such a deck would run. Hard casting emrakul on turn 6 is perfectly viable. Ramp-into-emrakul.dec is exactly the deck she makes and the only deck she makes. Not the most engaging thing to play against.

>>53164289
>>53164300
>>53164409
see the problem with the oblivion ring thing is that you just delay everything. since the deck is mainly ramp focused the commander tax isnt really an issue. you will still be taking potentially 15 commander damage (assuming you have blockers) and sacing 6 things every turn and thats if you are lucky enough to have a oblivion ring ability every single time its cast. plus since he is taking an extra turn every time the guy playing emmy will have more than enough mana and most likely cards to do something about you

>>53163332
>In Garruk's Wake
>Insurrection
>Genesis wave
>Cyclonic Rift
>Wincons
Jesus Christ this must be a bait post

Cards like Eye of the Storm that let opponents cast free shit to buff my Ishai?

>>53164764
Anon, no...

>>53164783
Are you autistic be honest

>>53164764
>someone casts [insert sweeper name]
>Ishai is forever fucked

>>53163825
Well, cards are permanents only whenever they're on the field, nowhere else.

>>53164803
My deck keeps Ishai safe through many different avenues. It's the point of the deck.

>>53164797
Just not a fan of hyper gimmicky methods of putting +1/+1 counters on a creature.

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http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/risus-sardonicus/

I've got a Plague Belcher, Lord of the Accursed, and a Never // Return to work in. My playgroup is semi-casual to the point that Sol Ring is disallowed, so ignore its absence.

I've considered running Embalmer's Tools for Gravecrawler shenanigans, but a few people have Infinite Gyre and Butcher of Truth in their decks, so I can't rely on it as a win condition.

>>53164764
>let opponents cast free
There is hole in your plan.

>tfw player in playgroup discovers storm as an archetype

What are some fun ways to fuck over Izzet storm? It's not a super tryhard deck but it tends to go off at turn 6. I refuse to put counterspells into my decks

>>53164826
Keep her safe from a Merciless Eviction every turn, sure.

>>53164708
Only that's wrong. I have a kozilek that I've played 50+ times, and 15 mana is so much more than 10.
Monobrown relies on casting many low cost mana rocks early, crypt, vault, ring, mind stone, thougt vessel etc.
This empties your hand at an alarming rate. In Kozilek this doesn't matter, you'll get to draw 4 when you hit then to keep fueling your board. Emrakul wouldn'g be able to do this well at all. If you have too many cheap mana rocks you'll be topdecking before you hit 15. If you have too many expensive ones you won't ramp fast enough. If you include more draw, your ramp is spread more thinly and you'll be slower as well.

I've actually tested this, the only pieces of fast mana my kozilek deck does not run are chrome mox and LED, and going into topdeck mode before you hit 15 is very common. This is why ulamog.dec is so much worse than kozilek.dec. even metalworker starts wouldn't be able to consistently get emrakul out, turn 6 emrakul is NOT consistent.

>>53164868
I get to use them too, you know.

And as long as my Ishai is indestructible and hexproof, which is usually the case, then I'm usually coming out on top.

Also I'll have Reyhan out, so if Ishai DOES get bounced or killed, he can dump his counters onto something else that will also more than likely be indestructible.

Also the times where it has stayed on the field for a while it has been filled with counterspells that end up countering half the shit that it casts anyway.

>>53164733
Except for the fact that colorless removal is fucking awful. So after ring comes down you are left with almost no board presence (since it's ramp.dec), and 3 intimidated opponents, good luck surviving that.

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>>53164881
Make sure they're paying for permits to cast those spells.

>>53164884
>one card that fucks over everyone else also

Are you literally braindead?

>play Sakashima
>only me and Asuza 80 Permanents player left
>casts Primal Surge
>copy it with Split Decision
>copy Split Decision with Mirari
>clone a million times, still have a "When creature dies, draw a card" clone out and he has Tabernacle on the field
>copy that demon 3 times
>draw 3 cards on everything I sac
>copy his Blightsteel Colossus twice using Shapesharer
>draw 15 cards
>Cyclonic Rift among them
>bounce 8 Enchantments, 15 creatures and around 90 tokens to his hand
>swing for 33 Infect Trample damage with Blightsteel

Fighting people with their own decks is pretty fun.

>>53164898
>GBWU
>Ishai/Reyhan
Just pay Tymna/Thrasios you fucknugget.

>>53164898
>Also I'll have Reyhan out, so if Ishai DOES get bounced or killed

Yes, you will literally always have Reyhan out.

>>53164912
Yes, you and I have that in common obviously.

>>53164898
>usually
Tell me, how do you consistently get Ishai to be Indestructible and Hexproof every game?
Besides, if anyone runs Toxic Deluge, Terminus, Hallowed Burial, any of the exile wipes or bounces, which any decent meta should anyway, Eye of the Storm is an awful card and it's bad in every deck, pretty much

>>53164940
Those commanders have literally nothing to do with the entire point of my deck. Why would I do that?

>>53164989
Because the point of your deck is the only thing more retarded than you are.

>>53164985
My deck has almost every way to make a creature indestructible there is.

I'm putting Hivemind in too, get mad.

>>53165003
>+1/+1 tribal with two commanders that do things with +1/+1 counters or make tons of +1/+1 counters.

Feel free to explain why.

Your group's Melek player puts Eye of the Storm and Possibility Storm into play.

wat do

>>53165004
Why should I get mad? Have fun with your terrible deck and your delusions, I guess

>>53165035
Ask him to factor a 250 digit number. If he can't he's not a computer and he's not going to be resolving the stack.

>>53165060
>What is a counterspell.

>>53165004
>Anon asks what people think of adding Eye of the Storm to his deck
>People say it's a bad idea
>Anon doubles down and decides to do something even more retarded

Why ask in the first place then? Did you expect everyone to suck your dick for being so innovative?

>>53164910
i'm actually running that as my commander in one of my decks but what usually happens is I'll drain him for like 24 life when he goes off, but then he draws his entire deck and removes my kambal and kills me

So essentially I need more cards like Kambal in my decks. Maybe I just need to put all the Painful Quandary and stuff like that into my deck, but the problem is that it's already having some problems protecting itself as it is

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>Playgroup always has at least one guy playing a grouphug/chaos deck
>Every game everyone has boatloads of extra mana, card draw and coin flips, permanents switching controllers et cetera
But the biggest offender is picture related. I swear if I see this meme card one more time. All I want is a few ordinary matches.

Mono color partners are coming in C17, right?

It's not another keyword they created for a Commander wave then never touched again, right?


;_;

>>53165080
A crapshoot when everyone else gets the same counterspell.

>>53165035
You cast any extra turn card and have fun with others doing nothing

>>53165083
I didn't ask what anyone THOUGHT about it, I said what are more cards LIKE it. Cunty. I'll be punching you with my 21/21 Ishai before you happen to drop the right card that will actually be able to kill it through indestructible hexproof regenerate.

>>53165092
i should put this card into my maelstrom deck since it has an average cmc of 4.5

i thought it was banned for some reason

>>53165035
Congratulate him on resolving his spells then go collect prize support because you already won two turns ago and left them to duke it out for second.

>>53165080
>play Hive Mind
>play Counterspell
>cry because your counterspells get countered for days
Look mom, an actual wild retard! It's not even in a cage!

>>53164909
you still get you a whole turn to nuke someone so that guy is pretty much done leaving you with only 2 people to worry about (assuming 4 players game). also unless you are just a terrible deck builder emmy isnt going to be your only thing on the table. you should be doing stuff with your ramp on your way to emmy

>>53165092
Yeah, Timesifter sucks. Whole point of grouphug/chaos is to mess with everyone at the same tiem equally and not play favourites. Timesifter gives a huge advantage to all Timmy big stuff players.

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>>53165106
I hope so considering pretty much all of the Partner cards were complete shit.
The UG ones aren't complete shit, but UG is the uncontested strongest colors in EDH and they pair better with each other than with any others.
Doesn't help that Ludevic was the biggest disappointment of a card to ever be printed in the history of Magic.

I wanted Partner to be cool, but all we got was a bunch of bulk rare level shit because "4c is too narrow and hard to design for" even though the 4c commanders were the most interesting part of the lot.

>>53165150
I was actually still talking about Eye of the Storm. Hive Mind is another animal altogether.

>>53165106
partners were and still are really successful. I doubt they would not do it...but it might not fit with their theme depending. However having 2 elf partners or 2 goblin partners would be cool

>>53165117
>indestructible and regeneration
Jesus christ dude, just off yourself

>>53165092
Chaos players are the real cancer my brother.

>>53165117
You actually said "Cards like...?" which could be taken either way. Most people would assume you're asking about the notion of playing cards like Eye of the Storm from that wording. If you want to avoid misrepresenting your question next time you're stupid enough to ask, you can just add "What are some" to the front of your question.

>>53165201
Diaochan is a fun Commander for it, at least, and makes for pretty decent politics.

>>53165179
You mentioned Hive Mind last, so it's only natural to assume you meant it.

>>53165208
Oh sorry I didn't realize that you think 100% of magic players are too dumb to understand a simple question.

>>53165254
I think you're too dumb to understand the nuances of social interactions. >>53165235 would probably agree.

>>53165152
You know what you should be doing with your ramp on your way to emmy? Casting more ramp. Monobrown is pretty shit at developing a board besides non-creature artifacts. A turn where you play steel hellkite and don't ramp is considered a bad turn. Do you honestly think you can consistently ramp to 15 mana on turn 6, while you develop a boardstate on the way?

I'd love to see you try. Why don't you try to actually build? I guarantee you that it won't be anywere near consistent.

>>53165254
Hes right though. You should have been more specific.

>>53165254
You phrased your question poorly, anon. You can't jump down people's throats for misinterpreting it when it's your fault for leaving it open to interpretation.

>>53165293
the fact that it isnt anywhere near consistent is the reason why you can drop stuff on the board while getting to emmy. i highly doubt you are going to get all your ramp in your opening hand. it it still doesnt change the fact that once you get there you have 15/15 annihilator 6 with an extra turn letting you utilise that 15 mana and swing to devastate someone

i get that you have never played against emmy but please try to think things through logically before speaking again

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BRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYAN

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What is the card that epitomizes you as an EDHman?

For me it's Living Death

>the value
>the control
>the power

it's quite possibly the most perfect card ever created

>>53165442
Card is so fucking gay

>>53165459
the fuck did you just say about my cardfu

>>53165442
Might be best to ask a question like that near the start of a thread rather than just when it's about to die.

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>>53165442
>Self-mill Sidisi player sees the only other blue player tapped out
>Proceeds to cast Living Death with a shit eating grin on his face
>In response, Rakdos Charm
>hfw

"You get nothing, BITCH!"

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>>53165625
HGNNN

Blowing people out with rakdos charm has to be the best feeling in the game.

>my precious untouchable graveyard combo

>>53165351
I have played both with and against emmy. You see Emmy in the command zone so that player gets focussed unless you're retarded. The emmy player will most likely be topdecking with like 1 eldrazi on the board around turn 6. Emmy in the command zone is something you should see coming from a mile away, the fact that you don't run boardwipes doesn't mean she's OP. If a 15 mana time warp with annihilator 6 on turn 8+ is too hard to deal with, then I guess you think that a hardcasted curse of the cabal is also overpowered?

I get that you are a bad deckbuilder but please try to think logically before speaking again.

>>53165824
>thinking filling your deck with 6 cmc eldrazi in an emmy deck is the way to go

you want to know how i know you dont know what your talking about? jesus christ i know tg is bad but you just take the cake

>>53165824
>I guess you think that a hardcasted curse of the cabal is also overpowered?
While I do agree Emrakul should stay banned, that's a moot point since you can counter Curse of the Cabal. You'd need Summary Dismissal or Time Stop to deal with her.

>>53165867
He's talking about Emmy herself you dundun

>>53165867
>filling with eldrazi
I never even said that you absolute retard, do you really need to resort to strawmanning? Obviously you run a few eldrazi to take advantage of urza's incubator, eye of ugin and eldrazi temple. Obviously you don't run 20 of them, emmy decks should be filled with draw, rocks and stax.

By strawmanning you only prove that your point is bad so you have to resort to fallacies to try and make a point.

>>53165824
Not him but there are plenty of colorless creature you can drop early that will also ramp you. You could easily leave one or two up to defend yourself.

>>53165878
Yes, but you can't use edict, boardwipe, o rinf effect, tap, avatar of woe and friends and a dozen other effects to deal with curse of the cabal. Any color can deal with emmy, only blue can deal with cabal besides jank like null brooch.

>>53165939
Palladium myr and friends are actually bad, since they can't tap when they come down. They might be better in emmy though. Still, 2 myr and a steel hellkite isn't exactly intimidating either.

>>53165949
There is also incidental jank like toolboxing Sigarda or Tajuru Preserver, or Swerve effects like Ricochet Trap.

>>53165982
Plenty more cards than that anon.

>>53165949
There's a lot of alternative ways to deal with Curse of the Cabal too, I think only black can't protect itself against it in some way or another.

>>53166027
And white has Second Sunrise and friends.

>>53166030
Sure, there are the bfz expensive creature rocks too, but you're not actually gonna run a 5 mana palladium myr right?

>>53166057
Black has Imp's Mischief, but who would seriously run that?

There's always Witchbane Orb, if you really need it for whatever reason.

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>>53166111
am i being trolled?

>>53166146
1B and some life to redirect a spell in monoB is p good. No one ever expects stack shenanigans when you're playing monoblack.

>>53166146
>Black has Imp's Mischief, but who would seriously run that?
Toshi

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>>53166158
its starting to feel like im being trolled

>>53166146
>but who would seriously run that?
And that's why it works.

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>>53166219
idk, its really weird. definitely feels like trolling. probably the old pretending to be retarded trick

>>53166027
>>53166057
Swerve effects are so much less common than all the ways you can deal with emrakul though, for every wild ricochet, imp's mischief and redirect I see I see about 40 wrath of gods and merciless evictions.
>>53166158
>a 2 mana mind stone that's a creature and dies to the slightest touch
Anon, that's awful in monobrown. The whole reason why palladium myr isnt great in monobrown is because it cant tap when it comes down and dies to boardwipes. Besides that you want to use your mana on your turn, since there are hardly any instant speed things monobrown can do while also ramping like a madman. So holding it untapped for blocks is stupid, you're actually slowing yourself down if you do that.

>>53166219
Are you insane? Monobrown, you're really considering a rock that taps for 1 every 2 turns and dies to boardwipes?

>>53166219
I really like Crystalline crawler.

infinite mana combos are fun~

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>>53166237
nah, no one on tg would do that right?

>>53166219
>Crystalline Crawler in a colorless deck

Genius.

>>53166237
>6 mana to fetch tapped basics in a deck that loves winter orb and storm cauldron
Anon, if you have no experience with monobrown just say so, this is embarrassing.

>>53166252
>that anon already said he was running metalworker
>comparing metalworker to crystalline crawler and palladium myr

I'm not even the guy you're arguing with but you need to stop.

>>53166219
>>53166237
Hold on, are you always this stupid or did you practice?

The original point was >>53165939
>You could easily leave one or two up to defend yourself
>Defend yourself with a creature you have to sacrifice

And, of course
>A Converge card in a colorless deck

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>>53166252
certainly no spells that could offer protection AND ramp, what a ludicrous idea

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/diaochan-groupfug/

Does this deck make you angry, anons?
Would you enjoy playing with it in your group?

>>53166245
>taps for 1 every 2 turns
Under new rules it can enter with 4 counters even on monobrown.

Anyway we're going nowhere with this talk, Emmy will stay banned at least in Sheldon's list for the foreseeable future.

>>53166313
>lotus petal for 2 mana
Or
>counter a sorcery

Amazing, what an incredible ramp card to protect yourself with, the fact that you have to sacrifice the most useless blocker in the world to even try to ramp doesn't contradict your point at all!

>>53166245
not familiar with the new mana rules i see, not surprising i must say

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Hey nibbas I want to make a Skullbriar deck.

Is it possible to have it be based on counters with a side of Zombie tribal? I'm thinking shit like Noosegraf Mob and Unbreathing Horde, with Diregraf Colossus too.

Any recommendations?

>>53166348
>>53166363
Which is incredibly unrealistic, having 4 different sources that can make mana of any color in monobrown, but sure.

>>53166363
>>53166348
It could enter with four counters, obviously, but how many gold mana sources do you have lying around for that to be anything you could consider close to consistent?

>>53166327
57% angry. I'll let you play but I'm not letting you resolve scrableverse or anything like it. Stay safe citizen.

>>53166400
with artifacts and lands that can tap for any color of mana (or mana your opponents can produce) it isnt really hard. you may not get all 4 every time but 2 or 3 is pretty realistic

>>53166365
Sounds reasonable. Just dedicate the black portion of the deck and most core creatures to Zombie Lords and tribal support and put the focus of your green parts on making counters.

>>53166365
Cryptbreaker, parallel lives, dubz season, zombie master

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>>53166365
Here's a cute interaction.

>>53166562
>dubz season
Reprint when?
This shit is so god damn expensive right now.

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>>53166656
It had one a while back. It might be "iconic" enough to find its way into Iconic Masters, maybe.

what is it with these fucks on youtube that piss on others in their videos? I just want to watch unboxings jesus

>>53166562
>zombie master

Pls explain

>>53166722
wut?

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>>53166745
What is there to explain?

>>53166745
>regenerating Skullbriar and letting him swing for a billion unblocked against other black players
What is there to explain?

>>53166747
some guy called Bad Boy mtg just spends half of his unboxing videos shitting on bigger mtg channels for reasons unknown. I guess it brings him more revenue?

>>53157517
Play Zedruu and donate shit like steel golem