EDH/COMMANDER GENERAL

>Besides Oloro and Sydri, what do you figure is the best application of Aetherflux Reservoir in Commander?
Kambal

>>53149072
>Besides Oloro and Sydri, what do you figure is the best application of Aetherflux Reservoir in Commander?
Storm deck(s).

>>53143537
Also that Gather the Townsfolk is still there for some reason, should remove it.

>>53149072
Yidris

>Besides Oloro and Sydri, what do you figure is the best application of Aetherflux Reservoir in Commander?
It's pretty good in Brago with the Soul Warden-type card effects

>>53146234

Threadly remind that this insecure sperg KNOWS YOU'RE HERE BRYAN AND YOU STILL AREN'T ALLOWED BACK IN HIS HOUSE.

Role call!

"You're a doormat and a douche" anon reporting in.

>>53149072
So I am taking my new Tasigur to edh tonight. It was originally Mogis with lots of pain effects then it turned into nekusar adding control and wheel effects. that became Dralnu control but the deck was too slow and had few anwsers to enchantments so I turned it into tasigur. has this happened to anyone else? the slow shift from one deck to something completely different?

>>53149160
lore_intensifies.swg

"Fucking Goon" guy standing by

>>53149160
Kalemne, Sitter of Faces standing by to shitpost

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>>53149152
BRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAN

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>>53149094
speaking of Kambal, r8 my budget list
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/and-all-seem-to-owe-him-favors/

>>53149167
Are you packing tooth and nail? With palinchron and deadeye? If not, shame on you.

>>53149167
I keep all my decklists and just recycle the same cards for most of my decks

They turn into new shit often

>>53149197
>tfw Kalemne is obsoleted by Dindu

>>53149231
I am actually but the main wincon seems to be ramp hard then tutor for doomsday and win through maniac.

>>53149259

I'll still play her, don't even care. Samut doesn't let me play terrible Evoke cards.

>>53149160

Unnecessary line breaks and lack of punctuation guy

Reporting in

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>>53149259
I cri everytiem

But you know the face-sitter is also a Kween

>>53149222
Aetherflux Reservoir (kek)
Felidar Sovereign
Test of Endurance

>>53149260
Atta boy!

>>53149294
delete this

>>53149160
Galko titty mousepad anon standing by (as long as I get new mail at least) :^)

>>53149160
Obvious baiting shitposter here.
>>53149152
Please don't start this shit again, we all know bryan and his friend are fags.

>>53149297
I'm aware of all those cards but I'm more inclined towards killing people through draining than by simply accumulating life.
Although blowing up people with Reservoir is tempting and I'm still pondering whether I should run it or not. I'll probably add it.

>>53149289
Fuck you, that still annoys me. Glad to see you're still here though.

>>53149222
>http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/and-all-seem-to-owe-him-favors/

I'd swap Banishing Light for Cast Out or Darksteel Mutation depending on your meta.

Some cards you might like that are budget:
- Aetherflux Reservoir
- Archangel of Tithes
- Authority of the Consuls
- Black Sun's Zenith
- Divinity of Pride
- Felidar Sovereign (depending on how cheeky you wanna be)
- Karlov of the Ghost Council
- Kothophed, Soul Hoarder
- Ob Nixilis, Unshackled
- Polluted Bomb
- Souls of the Faultless
- Sword of the Animist
- Terminus
- Tymna the Weaver

Those are just off the top of my head and high on his EDHREC page. All but one are under $5 I believe.

>>53149385
If we keep shaming him maybe he'll take the hint he's not welcome. Plus this wellspring of lore hasn't run dry yet.

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>>53149465
>being a dick to a guy will convince him to leave

Sounds like projection

>>53149439
Polluted Bonds and Souls of the Faultless are already in there.
I completely forgot about Divinity of Pride!
I was already aware of Kothophed but didn't think much of him, reading him again now made me reconsider. I'll think about it. Thanks for the recs.

>>53149072
Spellslinger in general is great with it. Easily tutorable and can save your ass and provide a wincon.

So far we have:
"You're a douche and a doormat"/only retards do unnecessary spacing between lines anon
Unnecessary spacing between lines and lack of punctuation anon
Fucking goon anon
"Projecting" anon
BRYAN anon
Obvious bait shitposter anon
Kalemne, Sitter of Faces anon

Still awaiting Galvanic Autogenerator anon, POST 'EM anon, music anon, and a few assorted others.

>>53149396
I'd take the reservoir anyway, especially if you can fit in ways of making it give you life back to go infinite.

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>>53149605
Projecting anon and bryan anon are the same person

Bryan reporting in

>>53149650
*slams door at your face*

>>53149650
STOP TARGETING ME REEEEEEE

>>53149605
Hey do I count?

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Ignored deck poster here

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/the-rakdos-tax-collector/

>>53149633
My group is pretty casual and chill, I'd rather not run any infinite combos. But yeah I'm adding Reservoir since it sounds like a great win condition.

>>53149674
I ONLY HAVE A SHEOLDRED OUT WHY ARE YOU USING LAND DESTRUCTION

Lurker anon here.

>>53149675
You're a tripfag, so you can't be an anon.

>>53149684
Polluted Bonds
Citadel of Pain
Manabarbs

>>53149072
I once oneshotted five different players at the same time with it in a Trostani deck.

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Melek combofag reporting in.

>>53149715
Figured it that much.

When was the last time y'all played a game? I'm starving for a 1v1 at least, it's been over a month already.

>>53149738
That's the dream. Kill Sat the table all at once.

>>53149728
Is manabarbs actually that good to warrant running? I always saw it as being more of a jank shitbrew than something playable. Bonds and citadel are good though so I'll buy them

>>53149222
Quick update:
removed Cage of Hands, Marchesa's Decree and Killing Wave and added Aetherflux Reservoir, Divinity of Pride and Darksteel Mutation.

>>53149748
It's been a few months because I was away at uni so I couldn't meet up with my group. The LGS in town near my college sucks.

>>53149789
On its own, it taxes people for playing the game, which is what your deck seems to do from my glimpse at your list. With Citadel as well, it creates a universal clock.

>>53149834
Alright then I'll give it a try, got any ideas on what I could swap out?

>>53149789
it seems ignorable at first glance but the damage stacks up quickly if people forget about it

>>53149747
How do you combo out when artifacts are on the top instead of Instants/Sorcs?

>>53149072
Selvala + Paradox engine Storm is insane. Love killing ppl with Aetherflux.

>>53149755
It's my favourite win condition in the deck by far. Trostani is very good at generating huge amounts of life but actually winning can be hard if there are too many wraths going around. And Felidar Sovereign, Resistence and Stormfront require a turn after you cast them to win the game.

Aetherflux either win you the game instantly as it resolves or put the game into a mexican standoff situation where no one player can do anything to you without you being able to kill them in response.

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>>53149856
By casting them

>>53149851
I'm no expert, but I don't think much of Bituminous Blast, Murder or Vial Smasher in this list.

>>53149605
>Obvious bait shitposter anon
You realize that this describes literally everyone on this general? and on this site

>>53149968
Vial Smasher is in there for support to kaervek for when I cast some big spell to get potential double dmg. Blast and murder were part of a yidris deck that I took apart for being total shit, I guess those 2 will be the first to go

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>>53149856
Artifacts+Engine are just one wincon, but they also help me ramp into the others. There's nothing sweeter than putting a Whir on top with Brainstorm or Rack and double casting it to grab Paradox Engine and Gilded Lotus. The most common win I find myself going for is Paradox Engine and Capsize, but a fat Mizzix's Mastery fueled by Dack and Jace, Vryn's Prodigy with Bone Wand on the field works just as well. I'm playing enough library manipulation and every fetch I can so I can usually shuffle away cards on top I don't need.
Excuse the potato picture, packed up my desk lamp for moving so the light is awful.

>>53150013
I think its more like we got 20% people being serious, 10% just fucking with everyone, and 70% trying to figure out what is going on

>>53149160
Eastern Europe LGS guy reporting in.

>>53149465
>>53149152
>>53149220
I ain't gonna leave just cause all of you are butthurt about me treating an asshole like scum. Guaranteed I would kick your asses in any commander game anytime.

>>53150419
Going by the decks you posted last thread, not likely. An asshole is still an asshole, even if the other guy is also an asshole, anon.

>>53150419
Because people around >>53150511 here take obvious bait so easily I'll point out the obvious. This is bait. Do not reply.

>>53150565
It's fun BECAUSE it's obvious as fuck.

>>53150609
If it wasn't every general, sure the last 50ish posts of the previous general were shitposting of this exact flavour. I'm all for laughing at that faggot's autism but can we let this thread blossom a bit before we let it wither?

I don't wanna win.
I don't want anyone to win, and for the game to be fair.
Should I make an Oloro control deck? But only counter/remove unfair cards that timmy (me) want banned?

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>>53150609
>it's fun to act retarded in spite of other people acting retarded
How many levels of irony are you on right now?

>>53150277
>didn't shill for mcm.eu

I smell an imposter.

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Better or worse than regular MLD?

>>53150701
Gets around indesctructible but is harder to break the symmetry. Upsides and downsides.

>>53149605
Also still waiting for "What I built/What I expected/What I got" Nebuchadnezzar anon

>>53150701
Better against Avacyn, worse against Sigarda

For those interested in seeing Bryan's Will, the Akiri/Kydele land destruction salt mining deck.

deck dot tk/1QZI6JAa


Have played 3 rounds online already and haven't lost yet. Shit is dirty. Also two people have rage quit immediately following their losses. The salt is real. I've won with Akiri commander damage each game.

Having Tamiyo's Journal out with Akiri is fucking silly.

>>53150701
>Pros
-Sac gets around indestructible effects
-Easy to reanimate or Feldon into play
-3/3 body can polish off the game if your opponent doesn't recover
-Leaves the rest of the board, so your Crucible lives
>Cons
-Leaves 3 lands
-3 lands is enough to cast spells under Trinisphere
-Harder to break symmetry than just making your lands indestructible
-Leaves the rest of the board, your opponents Crucible lives

>>53149222
Add Wound Reflection. With that down, Kambal is a fucking beast. Combined with Gray Merchant of Asphodel, you can off the whole table at once.

So, who else would be likely 10k+ richer if he didn't open his deck?


A friend of mine was a thief and stole every magic card pack in the city, then gave them to me because he was caught once and couldn't keep them at his home

This was in 1994, so mostly alpha and beta, a few hundred packs worth. I traded a lotus for a bunch of stompies. Including leviathan

Fuck kid me

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>>53149160
Legendary Ancient OP reporting in.

>>53150701
I've only ever seen this played when it was Tooth and Nailed for with an It Tha Betrays. After that I honestly would have just preferred an infinite combo

>>53150798
It's what you get for stolen goods.

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If you were to approve a new commander ruleset that allows for 'walkers to be used as commanders would you give the thumbs up? If so how woul this change the banlist?

>>53150938
>every single planeswalker banned
>glorious paragon format
Don't ask stupid questions anon, there is no way a re-castable planeswalker as a commander is ever balanced EVER.

>>53150938
I wouldn't support this, that being said I would probably play Tezzeret the Seeker as a artifact stax list.

>>53150920
I didn't steal anything, they were GIFTED to me.

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>>53150938
I'd say you should be herded and executed along with all the other dual and tiny commander faggots.

>>53151035
That's still a crime, man. You had knowledge that they were stolen goods. You're an accessory.

>>53150962
Show up on the doll where the Teferi emblemed you

>>53150938
Dack Izzet artifice YIKES.

It would need some bans from the get go like maybe Sorin Markov or Mind Sculptor or Bant Tamiyo.

>>53150676
Like 7, my dude. You?

>>53151035
An accessory to thievery and not turning in the thief. 40 years in the cube, freak I'm not good at dreddposting pls no bully

>>53150938
Planeswalkers as commanders is way too messy. Even when they tried to design planeswalkers specifically for that purpose they fucked up and one goes infinite with a one card combo.

Thumbs down the whole thing.

>>53151146
i didn't know, i was a 8 years old retard.


I had a full shoebox of them, if i found it i could probably do a pretty mint still.

Snow mountains are valuable, yes?

>>53151195
Nah.

>>53150773
>two people have rage quit immediately following their losses

Did they actually rage or does simply leaving the game count as a rage quitting to you?

>>53151195
>Alpha/beta
>AND ice age
>Stolen at the same time

Lol, stop giving him (you)s, he is just lying on the internet for attention. How sad.

>>53151241
They were grumpy so yeah.

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>>53149222
While not the cheapest of cards, I find Painful Quandary to be an excellent enchantment for Kambal. Your opponents practically have to stop casting entirely or get their heart ripped out.

>>53151290
Do people not abuse the graveyard where you play? I love it when someone sticks one of those, because I get to easily dump my hand into the bin if I wasn't able to already.

>>53151315
Not everyone plays golgari recursion, yo.

>>53151273
It took a long time, anon.

He'd steal 4-5 packs every week, we'd open them during lunch break.
He'd do it with me because i was the only one that could read a bit of english

>>53151340
The only color combination I can think of that can't abuse the graveyard is mono-green. I guess that's the timmy color. Your playgroup must be the timmiest of timmies.

>>53151371
Pray tell how you abuse the GY in monoblue or Simic aside from snapcaster.

>>53151455
Flashback costs?

>>53151468
Almost all flashback cards are inefficient for EDH.

>>53149160
Wtf is going on? Who the fuck is bryan? Why are dramafags in my nerd card game thread?

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>>53149160
Skeleton Ship fag who names all his decks after Eurobeat songs here

>>53150693
He's the police state lgs guy.

I want to murder the person who thought giving creatures flash was a good idea.

>>53151468
Flashback is meant to get further value out of a card and often comes at a higher price for recast then the initial cost. It's better to pitch a card with flashback than one without to the graveyard but you don't actively want to do it as you're still losing card advantage.

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>>53151578
*blocks ur path*

>>53151532
Do you have at least 2 turtles in that deck?

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>>53151578
Problem, Blue?

>>53151632
>2/2
Not really

>>53151578
why? i can think of far more cancerous stuff than that like free casting

>>53151455
>>53151371
>>53151315

I use the gy in simic, mono u, and mono green

>>53151578
You have to go back to 1995 for that though anon. It was a silly place, I can't recommend it.

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>>53151649
Good

>sold 2 chinaman scalding tarns to some unsuspecting fool for market price
>he just marked it as "arrived" today with no complaints

Time to build a new deck I guess.

>>53151729

REEEEEEEEEE

>>53151729
How very bryan of you.

>>53151729
You're a fucking dick anon. That's actually thievery.

>>53151729
I bet you play Sheoldred in every deck

>>53151705
>mistcutter

Love it, but every time I play it I am sorely reminded it lacks trample.


>>53151729
You are everything that is wrong with the world

>>53151739
Did you just receive 2 scalding tarns perchance?

>Giving that shit responses

This is why threads spiral out of control. This isn't even BRYAN level's of amusing and it's completely derailed the thread.

>>53151765
>>53151790
He doesn't know, so there are no negative consequences. Everybody wins.

>>53151769
No, only MLD.

>>53151811
Wait until he gets his cards checked at a tournament and tracks you down for scamming him

>>53151808
Boo hoo these threads are still leagues better than modern

>>53151836
I don't even understand. This isn't even creative shitposting. And that's a real high bar you've set there, anon. Being slightly better than the second worst general on /tg/ is something to be preserved.

>>53151811
Did you advertise it as a real card and not mark that it was a chinaman?

Because if he finds out, you're fucked bucko.

>>53151834
Yeah fucking right. He only bought 2 from me so he won't even be able to discern which ones were mine if he already marked it as ok. I only sell in pairs of 2.

>>53151908
Real obviously, who'd buy chinaman for 45 euros?

>>53151898
I'm just saying to stop being a crybaby bitch, half the people here are tryhards and fulltime shitposters and the rest are casual or suck at magic.

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Is it wrong of me to not go full elf tribe with Nath? I'm having fun with it so far with a sample list, but not as much when most of the deck is very elf tribal.

What's a commander that can be "literally anything" and still isn't over 2 colors? I find it that most of the time my monocolor decks lose because I don't know what I'm against when my opponents whip out their gay rainbow shit like atraxa.

>>53152018

Rashmi maybe? Only 2 colors but you can do kinda whatever with it and value out

>>53151532
That looks all kind of jank and I love it, list?

>>53151961
Nath tribal can work, but it's kind of a waste because it downsizes his tokenmaker abuse potential.

>>53151961
Not at all, tribes are very boring and tend to have the same strategy everytime

>>53152052
The problem with jank is that there's always that one faggot with a tuned C13 commander that shits on your parade just because he can

>>53152086
>>53152073
Ah, I was wondering the opposite - I enjoy it, but wasn't sure if it's able to be run without the intent of tribal stuff. If so then that's great to hear.

>>53152018
White literally has an answer to everything. It's the core reason why their draw is so bad.

>>53152121
White doesn't have a 1 turn infinite asspull combo though.

>>53152135
Care to elaborate or are you just shitposting?

>>53152018
Gonti, Lord of Luxury.

Play your OPPONENT'S gay rainbow shit. Excluding atraxa, because she's a commander.

>>53152155
While not really infinite:
-green ramping into eldrazi as early as turn 4-5
-deadeye palinchron
-mike&trike
-locking down shit with paradox engine/isochron with counterspell or whatevers
-literally everything about zada

>>53152205
Turn 1 felidar sovereign

>>53152218
>turn 1
That must be the most magical christmasland moment in history

>>53152232
Well we're talking about bullshit here in the first place. That right there is an example of a 'turn 1 asspull' in White

>>53152250
T1 plains, mana crypt, sol ring, mox opal, chrome mox (plus exiled card) plus felidar is a perfect 7 card hand in a singleton format. What are the odds? Plus you can still counter it with a T1 StP or Path so even then it isn't invincible like deadeye palinchron.

>>53152306

Deadeye palinchron is also shut down by path to exile or stp

>>53149160

Anime playmat and waifusleeves guy standing by.

>>53152330
You just activate deadeye one more time and it fizzles. Or you can, you know, counterspell.

>>53152306
Everything you listed above can be answered in White. The one I posted is no different.

>>53152348
say it with me now

IN RESPONSE TO THE SOULBOND TRIGGER

>>53152360
>ONE MORE TIME

>>53152306
More like Vault, Crypt, Opal and Plains with 2 cards to spare

>>53152411
that's only 5 mana.

>>53152380
in response to the etb trigger that bonds them together, not the activation of the ability. they can't activate it one more time as they aren't bonded yet.

you're bad at magic

>>53152380

M8 you respond to the first soulbond trigger, you don't let deadeye get off even a single activation

Also if in our magical scenario the deadeye palinchron player also has a counterspell, then the other player also has another removal spell

>>53152445
>counterspell

>>53152432
Delete your post

>>53152473

>in response I use my other removal spell

>>53149072

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/wug-mean-memes-14/

Rate/Hate?

I've been playing MTG for a while though never really got into EDH. I would really like some recommendations for this deck. The general theme is bouncing a lot of junk in and out for their enter the battlefield abilities.

>>53152497
Delete yourself

>>53152520
I will once you learn how to count.

>>53152205
White is literally the most cancerous pillowfort + stax color, you dont need a million infinites if your opponents scoop anyway.

how do i defend myself against ruination and price of progress?

>>53152542
Wait you're right, read it as sol ring instead of vault. That way it works, though you're worse if they disrupt it.

>>53152568

Counterspells, land recursion, basic lands

>>53152568
Circle/Runes of Protection: Red

Heroic Intervention
Faith's Reward
Boros Charm
Soul of New Phyrexia
Terra Eternal
Equinox

>>53149160
Slivers reporting in.

>>53152568
By playing monocolor master race instead of your degenerate leftist rainbow shit

>>53149160
Shameless mono-red addict reporting in

>>53152205
>when you're so butthurt you accidentally list blue twice

>>53152925
blue has no shortage of bullshit combos though

>>53151532
love you

>>53152018
As in, a Commander that doesn't clearly dictate a specific strategy, or a deck without a clearly defined strategy?

Because a lot of value-oriented control commanders fit the first category. Keranos, Wrexial, Sakashima, Kambal, Erebos, WR Avacyn, Tasigur, etc.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/naya-human-tribal-edh/

the final iteration. Any advice before I start ordering the cards I don't have?

>>53153094
A commander that can be built in enough ways that it doesn't telegraph what strategy it will follow.

>>53149160
Fucking goon standing by.

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>>53153110

>>53153172
Well that guy is kind of a waste to play in some creature light deck for example

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>>53153186

>>53153214
Does he even do anything? All I see is a flying craw wurm with a city of solitude attached

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What did you guys get in the mail today?

>>53151455
ETBs that return instants to your hand (put there through milling)
ETBs that cast spells from graveyard for free
Delve

>>53153214
I support this. Dromoka is deceptively good and most strategies will appreciate saying fuck you to blue in the command zone.

>>53153233
foil japanese Protean Hulk

>>53153228
>5/7 evasive lifelinker in a format where you win when your main guy deals 21 damage to a dude
>In one of the best color pairs for using equipment/auras to buff dudes
>Your opponent's can't do shit to him during your turn

What's not to get?

>>53153228
It's surprisingly hard to kill and city of solitude is a good card. Plus, opponents can't play combat tricks which is actually amazing. I don't use it as a commander, but it's always one of the first things I fish out in my Sisay deck.

>>53153233
Nothing for commander, but when I get home, I've got some chalices of life for my monoW lifegain deck waiting for me.

>>53153287
Well he does cost a shitton and dies to mundane removal, so...

>>53153311
>Well he does cost a shitton
The same could be said for any commander over 5 mana

>and dies to mundane removal, so...
The same could be said for every commander that doesn't have Greaves equipped

>>53153335
>The same could be said for every commander that doesn't have Greaves equipped
What about the ones with important ETB or EOT abilities, haste or ones that plain warp the game with their presence (GAAIV...)?

>>53153311
>he
Dromoka is a strong independent Dragonlord who don't need no man.

>>53153233
Thanks for reminding me anon, I've got a Scrubland, Fetid Heath, and Ancient Tomb waiting in the mailbox.

>>53153335
Uril doesn't need greaves.

But Dromoka is great due to the city of solitude effect.
They won't be killing your commander on your turn, so you can untap with your commander, turn her into a OHKO monster and go to town without interruption, or just slap down greaves and equip it without worrying about it getting sworded in response.

>>53153335
Except for the actually good voltrons like Narset, Sigarda and Uril.

>>53153362
What pronouns do dragons prefer?

>>53153352
>GAAIV
Still dies to removal. Should have said Sigarda or something.

>>53153382
He does, but offsets the cost enough that the opponents have to inconvenience themselves in order to remove him. Plus he makes your counterspells cheaper if you have the mana for them.

>>53153375

Dromoka, Kolagarn, and Atarka are chicks.
Silumgar and Okutai are dudes.

Of course, In Tarkir dragons are literally born from a magical storm and don't even lay eggs or anything, so I am not sure why there would be a difference...

>>53153375
Technically they are genderless, but they usually identify with a gender, Dromoka, Kolaghan and Atraxa are female, the other are male. I think,
don't quote me on this.

>>53153375
Well seeing as they actually have canonical genders? Dromoka, Kolaghan, and Atarka are female, Silumgar, and Ojutai are male.

>>53153410
>atraxa
Atarka, obviously*

>>53153402
>lol just have counterspells
Wow, removal sucks.

>>53153436
Making your counterspells cheaper to use is a point in GAAIV's favor, anon.

>>53151956
I'm sorry your lowtier shitposting isn't amusing.

>>53151961
Nath is much better as a discard/stax deck than a tribal deck. His effect doesn't really do much for elves.

>>53153528
Awesome, I'm glad to hear that.

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>>53153233
Just these. I'm expecting some more stuff tomorrow or Thursday.

>>53153448
He can't make them cheap than UU. You're overestimating how good he makes counters.

>Derevi, Empyrial Tactician
>Oloro, Ageless Ascetic
>Jeleva, Nephalia's Scourge
>Prossh, Skyraider of Kher
>Marath, Will of the Wild
Whoever designed Commander 2013 deserves to be shot.

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>>53153555
>that playmat

>>53153610
>not appreciating having your 1U counters cast U

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>>53153642

>>53153642
I love fags that get triggered by animu playmats. buying another just because of you!

>>53153625
How would you fix them while still retaining the "effect in command zone" theme?

>>53153693
>I love fags
We know.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/09-05-17-oloro-copy/
any help? need to remove 4 more cards

>>53153702
I think that all of them except for maybe Marath should have been scrapped. Especially Oloro and Derevi with their direct commander zone interaction.

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>>53153642

>being triggered by the most tame of playmats.

Miku is nothing more than a corporate product. A weebster mickey mouse.

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>>53151729
capitalism has failed

>>53153835
And in most of those cases knowingly lying about your information is fraud.

>>53153835
If capitalism has failed, then what are these shiny new euros in my paypal account :^)?

>>53149160
Lurker checking in

>>53153693
>>53153817
Who's triggered? I was just implying I'd snicker under my breath at someone who insisted on announcing to the world how much of a weeb they are.

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Post cards that only you use in your playgroup

Making a Rashmi deck for a standard ONLY tournament. All Standard cards are legal if they're legal in commander.

How TF do I make this deck good?

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>>53153625
Take a good guess, goyim.

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>>53153946
>I'm a nerd BUT NOT THAT BIG OF A NERD HEHE

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Help a newb out, /edh/

What is a good deck breakdown for card functions? Specifically, how many lands/mana rocks/single target removal/board wipes/deck strategy/wincons, generally, is a good ratio? I don't need exact numbers, just an idea of what I'm aiming for. B/G commander if that helps.

>>53154018
literally whatever is suitable for your playstyle+the meta you play within

>>53154035
Sure it will vary from deck to deck but can you give me a general number? I'm pretty sure 33-36 lands and around 10 mana rocks/enhancers is typical but I'm pretty ignorant about removal/board wipes

>>53149160
Contrarian shitposter and meme commander advocate reporting in

>>53154063
you generally want 38-40 lands max then whatever amount of manarocks is appropriate for your ramp. Green has plenty of mana dorks to help you cast so that should give you an idea.

If you still aren't privy to removal and counters then you should probably do more research out of this thread because the sheer amount of counters, removal, etc. in any numerous amount of situations is nearly limitless.

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>>53153952
Everyone fucking hates it. I also play magus of the moon.

>>53154018
I almost always start at a base of 35 lands and tweak from there.

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>>53153952
>Stop drawing so many god damn cards.

>>53154154
Why dont you play runeflare trap?

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>>53153994
>mfw someone likes anime near me

>>53154174
Because I don't have one.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/09-05-17-oloro-pillowfort/
does this seem good? noob here, I finally finished making a deck

>>53149072
If you had all the cards but could only build one deck for each color and color combination, what would you build?
>Thalia, Heretic Cathar
>Ambassador Laquatus
>Ghoulcaller Gisa
>Godo, Bandit Warlord
>Titania, Protector of Argoth
>Geist of Saint Thraft
>Karlov of the Ghost Council
>Sygg, River Cutthroat
>Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind
>Mogis, God of Slaughter
>Meren of Clan Nel Toth
>Xenagos, God of Revels
>Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
>Gaddock Teeg
>Vorel of the Hull Clade
>Rafiq of the Many
>Sydri, Galvanic Genius
>Vial Smasher+Kraum
>Prossh, Skyraider of Kher
>Mayael, the Anima
>Ruhan of the Fomori
>The Mimeoplasm
>Queen Marchesa
>Animar, Soul of Elements
>Karador, Ghost Chieftrain
>Yidris, Maelstrom Wanderer
>Bruse+Reyhan
>Kynalos and Tiro of Meletis
>Tymna+Thrasios
>Breya, Etherium Sculptor
>Reaper King
>Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger

>>53154243
I am considering a Bruse + Reyhan deck right now. I cannot decide on going full +1/+1 counters or going Human tribal. Doing both themes seems poor.

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>>53153233
Neat!

>>53154297
Humans, counters-farming is retarded in a deck without counterspells.

>>53154243
>Sran, Senior Edificer
>Thada Adel, Acquisitor
>Gonti, Lord of Luxury
>Feldon of the Third Path
>Titania, Protector of Argoth
>Gwafa Hazid, Profiteer
>Silas Renn, Seeker Adept
>Vial Smasher the Fierce
>Omnath, Locus of Rage
>Selvala, Explorer Returned
>Daxos the Returned
>Mizzix of the Izmagnus
>The Gitrog Monster
>Brion Stoutarm
>Experiment Kraj
>Sen Triplets
>Mishra, Artificer Prodigy
>Shattergang Brothers
>Gahiji, Honored One
>Angus Mackenzie
>Doran, the Siege Tower
>Numot, the Devastator
>Damia, Sage of Stone
>Queen Marchesa
>Maelstrom Wanderer
>Akiri, Line-Slinger // Silas Renn, Seeker Adept
>Karona, False God
>Karn, Silver Golem

if only I had thousands of dollars to spend on decks

>>53154345
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>>53153233

Three of these guys. Two for my Modern Naya Zoo sideboard, and another one for EDH. Not sure where though. Maybe I make Naya Hatebears?

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>>53153981
I KNEW IT

>>53149094
Saw some one use it in selesnya Sevala to pretty good effect. Had a lot of life gain besides the commander.

Also any orzohv lifgain strat can use it effectively.

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>>53154415
I got you.

why is tolarian academy banned but gaea's cradle legal? is it just because academy is blue?

>>53154503
Artifacts>>>>>>creatures.

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>>53154485

>>53154503
i feel like the mindset is green is going to have mana anyway so might as well but no way in hell we can let other colors ramp off of their mana rocks even more than they already do

>>53154516
even super dedicated artifact decks don't come close to the number of creatures a green deck can pump out though.

>>53154519
that looks sick as fuck

>>53154243
Colorless - Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
White - Odric, Master Tactician
Blue - Braids, Conjurer Adept
Black - Ererbos, God of the Dead
Red - Feldon of the Third Path
Green - Omnath, Locus of Mana
Azorius - Daxos of Meletis
Dimir - Oona, Queen of the Fae
Rakdos - Kaervek the Merciless
Gruul - Radha, Heir to Keld
Selesnya - Selvala, Explorer Returned
Orzhov - Daxos, the Returned
Izzet - Mizzix of the Izmagnus
Golgari - The Gitrog Monster
Boros - Tajic, Blade of the Legion
Simic - Ezuri, Claw of Progress
Esper - Sen Triplets
Grixis - Marchesa, the Black Rose
Jund - Sek'Kuar, Deathkeeper
Naya - Tana the Bloodsower + Sidar Kondo of Jamura
Bant - Roon of the Hidden Realm
Abzan - Karador, Ghost Cheftian
Jeskai - Narset, Enlightened Master
Sultai - Vorosh, the Hunter
Mardu - Zurgo Helmsmasher
Temur - Riku of Two Reflections
Sans Green - Yore-Tiller Nephilim
Sans White - Ydris, Maelstrom Wielder
Sans Blue - Saskia the Unyielding
Sans Black - Kynaios and Tiro of Meletis
Sans Red - Witch-Maw Nephilim
Five Color - Progenitus

>>53154562
ew, blaxos, stop it

>>53153233
Clever Impersonator and Muddle the Mixture.

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>>53154503
Sup bitch

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What's the best "Fuck your infinite combos, we're here to actually play." Commander? I assume not this guy.

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>>53154503
Mind if a few of my friends come over?

>>53154529
It's because artifacts are a more protected permanent type that can actively ramp you the turn they come out, have more combo potential, with many of the best onea costing 0-2 mana.

Serras sanctum and cabal coffers are allowed even though the permanents they scale with are even more protected because you normally cant shit out 6 lands/enchantments in one turn

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>>53154503
We'll be quiet.

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>>53154599
Kaervek, aka "Stop casting."

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>>53154503
I promise.

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>>53154599

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>>53154503
Leave the place just like we found it.

>>53154591
>>53154612
>>53154628
>>53154645
>>53154664
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1REKLpWch4I

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>>53154503
You're couch is ugly though.

>>53154297
I'm >>53153098 if you want to look at the human tribal I tried to make in those colors

>>53154503
Because who doesnt want their fast mana
>>53154591
>>53154612
>>53154628
>>53154645
>>53154664
>>53154681
to be even faster

>>53154685
Oops, that's before I splashed black. The one I'm working on now is http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/dune-brood-human-tribal-edh/

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>>53154503
We'll fix that.

>>53154576
Seriously? I thought I picked much more cancerous commanders in there than Blaxos. Karador and Ydris get nothing, but you object to Blaxos?

>>53154707
i tried so many times to make him work but he's just too slow for even the casual meta at my lgs. makes me cringe thinking of all the games where i just did nothing and instantly died to a xenagos or whatever with only 2-3 experience counters.

>>53154707
He doesn't like fun, pity him.

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>>53154591
>>53154612
>>53154628
>>53154645
>>53154664
>>53154681
>>53154705
OH SHIT IS IT PARTY TIME? SOMEBODY CALL WINDFALL

>>53154738
ive thought about playing him as basically removal.deck where you play all the Banishing Light effects and stuff like that to give him experience and deal with threats but he allways did seem really slow unless you play a bunch of fast mana to get him out turn 2 or 3

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Been trying to get some help with my shitty Atraxa list to make it more fun and give it some more direction as well.

It works most of the time but is often inconsistent and clogs up a bit. Also always plays the same every game and I feel like there's a lot of stuff I could do to make things more interesting.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/01-05-17-atraxa-wip/

>>53154764
that deck worked a lot better for me when i ran it under zedruu instead. the daxos problem is that he needs to be out before you start getting value out of playing your enchantments, but zedruu can come down whenever you've got the mana and turn your dead oblivion rings or whatever into card draw. also, blue.

>>53154790
path to exile and swords to plowshares are you friends

>>53154798
Don't make him "just envhantments"

Black has plenty of ways to grind repeatable value out of its cards and White is the best color at slowing everyone else down

>>53154838
eh, i just took the mana base out and built it into combo teysa. that deck was a lot more on the power level of my group.

>>53154790
I truly feel sorry for anyone trying to make these four color abominations work.

>>53154738
>>53154764
The problem with Daxos is that his effect doesn't even fit in an enchantress deck. He gives you the ability to create tokens... ok, why would I want that? It's not like you gain tokens whenever you cast an enchantment, like Sigil of the Empty Throne. THAT would actually be a good effect. No, instead you have to pay for your tokens, your enchantments only make the bigger.
You're unironically better off running Kambal, who has an enchantment-like effect, at the helm of your BW enchantress deck.

>>53154880
>I feel sorry for people using the 3 of the best commanders of all time
???

>>53154790
>>53154880
you can do it but you have to shell out some serious money on the mana base just so you arent always a turn behind because all of your lands come in tapped

>>53154907
Serra's Sanctum and Constellation, specifically Skybind, would like a word with you

>>53154928
if you're going all-out enchantress, wouldn't you want green instead of black as your second color?

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im at 108 cards on my sigarda deck, if anybody has any suggestions on cutting it down to 100 that would be appreciated

im sure you have cards you like me to add as well but id prefer suggestions to cut

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/green-white-puhoy/?cat=type&sort=

>>53154955
karmametra is ideal for that

>>53154243

Colorless - Kozilek, The Great Distortion
White - Elesh Norn
Blue - Arcum Dagsson
Black - Kalitas, Traitoe of Ghet
Red - Purphoros, God of the Forge
Green - Titania, Protector of Argoth
Azorius - Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Dimir - Gisa and Geralf
Rakdos - Mogis, God of Slaughter
Gruul - Xenagod
Selesnya - Captain Sisay
Orzhov - Karlov of the Ghost Council
Izzet - Melek, Izzet Paragon
Golgari - Maren of Clan Nel Toth
Boros - Aurelia, the Warleader
Simic - Ezuri, Claw of Progress
Esper - Sen Triplets
Grixis - Thraximundar
Jund - Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund
Naya - Mayel the Anima
Bant - Roon of the Hidden Realm
Abzan - Karador, Ghost Cheftian
Jeskai - Numot, the Devastator
Sultai - Sidisi, Blood Tyrant
Mardu - Kaalia of the Vast
Temur - Surrak Dragonclaw
Five Color - Progenitus

>>53154967
yeah, that's my point.

>>53154955
How am I supposed to have a reanimator theme then? Debtor's Knell is amazing.


Black is also a fine support for card draw, particularly Graveborn Muse & Cryptbreaker

>>53154992
mmhm. the best enchantress deck i've ever seen was a karador deck. best of both worlds.

>>53154910
>>53154923
I believe ya lads, but I've yet to meet a single fella NOT struggling to make it work. Even the one guy that had all the cash to pour into it was getting slapped around by one and two color decks that were simply tighter and more streamlined.

>>53155042
atraxa is a bit of a trap, but breya and yidris are incredible. was the guy who shilled out trying to play saskia or something?

>>53155042
Seems like you're playing with people who think that "I have 4 colors" means "My deck should be 1/4 of each," instead of "My deck should be 1/3 of one color, 1/4 of two others, and 1/6th of the last." Proportions, are, of course, not accurate.
Blue is the best color, which is why Saskia is the worst of the 5.

>>53154018
The starting base of a roughly assembled deck I normally aim for 45 mana source and less than 3.4 average cmc. I don't count ramp spells higher than 4 in this figure. Closer to 3.4 I up the mana sources. Not much MLD in my meta so I am normally light on rocks compared to average decks. I'm around 4ish rocks, average for a solid deck is probably closer to 6 or 7.

Depending on color combo I aim for roughly a combo of removal that meets the following criteria:
- 7 can hit creatures
- 5 can hit enchantments/artifacts
- 3 can hit lands
- 2 can hit GY
- 3 can wipe the board of creatures

I do not count counters in this list but I do count bounce.

I try to get 4 or 5 continuous sources of draw, preferably 5 or less if my Commander doesn't draw. More if I'm in blue.

Wincons is completely up in the air and you need to goldfish that shit. More tutors can mean lighter on all the aforementioned numbers (though you really don't wanna be tutoring for lands so I'd skimp on ramp last). If you weren't golgari I'd probably recommend 2 or 3 sources of restore effects but you'll likely be abusing your yard so it doesn't matter here.

These figures are tuned for my meta so don't treat them as gospel. Tune for your meta and goldfish, goldfish, goldfish to see what you can do with the deck the first couple turns.

>>53155062
Heh, it was Atraxa in fact. I've seen the others flop around similarly. Now that you mention it though, Breya is the only one I've seen put up a real fight.

>>53155105
a well-built yidris deck can go off on turn 4 on average and kill the entire table provided he can hit at least one person.

>>53155101
>tfw your curve reaches 2.92

>>53155135
Can you tell me how that works?

>>53155179
storm stuff

>>53155137
Lower is better, within reason of course, so it means you can make your deck leaner with mana for more card advantage or threats.

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>>53155101
>45 mana source

Is Reyhan/Ravos a meme?

>>53155262

I think he means like if you have like 37 lands you want like 8 dorks and signets and other cheap ramp, which sounds about right to me

>>53155288
Ah yeah that sounds much more correct. "mana source," sounds way too broad. thought he meant in lands.

>>53155285

Partners are a meme

>>53155285
Partners other than Thrasios are a meme.

>>53155302
Can confirm I meant this >>53155288 which is why I mentioned not counting ramp spells higher than 4 cmc.

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>>53155137
>>53155230
Feels good man.

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>>53155360
well fuck you beat me

>>53155360
I could potentially reach that, but I can't bring myself to cut my big angels

>>53154219
Thats fair

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>>53155360
Wheels.dec is cheap on the mana.

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>>53155360
B^)

>>53154243
White: Eight-and-a-Half-Tails
Blue: Kami of the Crescent Moon
Black: Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder
Red: Kurkesh, Onakke Ancient
Green: Thrun, the Last Troll
Azorius: Gwafa Hazid, Profiteer
Dimir: Wrexial, the Risen Deep
Rakdos: Kaervek the Merciless
Gruul: Wort, the Raidmother
Selesnya: Krond the Dawn-Clad
Orzhov: Kambal, Consul of Allocation
Izzet: Arjun, the Shifting Flame
Golgari: Thelon of Havenwood
Boros: Brion Stoutarm
Simic: Kaseto, Orochi Archmage
Esper: Merieke Ri Berit
Grixis: Mishra, Artificer Prodigy
Jund: Shattergang Brothers
Naya: Gahiji, Honored One
Bant: Angus Mackenzie
Abzan: Doran, the Siege Tower
Jeskai: Shu Yun, the Silent Tempest
Sultai: The Mimeoplasm
Mardu: Zurgo Helmsmasher
Temur: Surrak Dragonclaw
5 Color: Progenitus
Colorless: Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger

I dislike meme partners so I'm only left with a single choice for each of the 4 Color combos. Unless you count the Nephilim as valid answers. In that case, every Nephilim.

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>>53155407

>>53155426
>shadowborn apostle.dec

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>>53149160
Anti-control anally annihilated rage Timmy reporting in

>>53155479
More like anti-fun.

>>53155462
>yidristorm.dec

>>53155504
You can't fool me. I saw your file name. I'm on to you.

need some suggestions for my captain sisay enchantress list.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/captain-sisay-enchantress/

>>53154700
Saskia or Ravos and Bruse Tarl?

>>53155582
Oops, meant Ravos and Tana

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>>53154963
Savra player here.

Please pick a different general.

How many Relentless Rats should I run in rat.dec?

>>53155360
I'm sitting at 3.14, but I'm playing Kruphix, so I can play whatever I want.

>>53155515
No, I'm guessing it's http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/melt-banana

Yidris Storm with a 1.68 average CMC.

>>53155611
I was playing Kruphix too before switching to that deck. Your curve is pretty low for a Kruphix deck.