Warhammer 40k General /40kg/

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First for the Greater Good

>>53131540
Or that, yes. Any of those would be better, honestly. Good god, Shroudpsalm is going to need some pretty significant nerfs if not to force Snapfire on everything or give us 1+ armour.

>>53131581
Filthy dumb commie scum

>>53131581
>Roses are red
>Violets are blue
>Pulse weapons no longer wound on a 2

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inb4 Lasguns have a +1 armor save modifier

New Ork models!

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>>53131615
>enemy brings T9 or lower
>wounds on 5+ at worst
It's really poetic. Tau punching the former big things off the table/galaxy.

With the news about Heavy weapons, should I use the two heavy bolters I have lying around to assemble 2 tac squads with them, or a dev squad with 2?

>>53131639
Ever had a weapon so shitty it made your enemies tougher?

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>>53131639
filename made me chuckle

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I've been trying to make a Warboss in mega-armor.

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>>53131615
Still superior

I kind of want to get into the game in the summer with the new edition, but I really don't like the modelling and painting, anything I make would look like crap.

>>53131738
So improve, practice makes the master. Just pick a main color for your army, buy a tamiya/army painter can of that color, spray it, paint some details in another color and wash it all.

Easy, simple and will look decent enough for your first models.

>>53131738
So practice.

>>53131582
That is more likely , yes
But the point is , nurgle worshipers who act just as much as healers and hope bringers, as pleaguespreaders and sources of despair.

>>53131738
Everyones first models look like ass. Then you'll get better and better with each model and after a year or two you'll start to put out some pretty sick models on the table. This is a patient mans hobby anyway.

Post your faces when Git findas now ignore all BS Modifiers

>>53131738
Go for something like Tyranids or Gray Knights, both can be spray primed their basic colors and finished with a single other color/wash. They wont be the best but you can easily get away with it

>>53131738
You know - having no painting skills is no problem. The problem is you said "you really don't like it". Why even bother with something you don't like?

>>53131780
This was meant for >>53131431

>>53131660
Tac squad isnt a bad idea as they'd share target priority and range

>>53131790
Or be like me after 2 decades they still look like ass.

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>>53131799

>>53131738
What army do you like?

>>53131813
>Go for something like Tyranids or Gray Knights, both can be spray primed their basic colors and finished with a single other color/wash
Huh, it would be so much waste to not paint Nids properly tho. Better to go with Crons IMO - they are newbie friendly to paint and idiotproof to run

>>53131738
Just get em to look good enough at 3'

>>53131820
I love the lore, I spent my teenage years reading codexes my friend(who collected some models too and maybe he played too, I don't remember) bought. I like watching battle report videos online, I do enjoy dice-rolling stuff, and I feel like I should get into a hobby just to meet people.

How much is it to start from scratch? I was thinking I might pick up a battlesuit and a couple of Fire Warrior squads, but the cost of paints/tools/materials when I am starting from absolutely seems like a lot, with no guarantee I will enjoy it. I assume GW doesn't just let you to sit in the store and use their stuff to assemble/paint?

>>53131879
>not wanting just a plain and neutral looking ant swarm.

>>53131581
Pathfinders might be worth using as sniper units again. With the split fire thing you can markerlight one unit while the rail/ion rifles zap something else.

>>53131660
Huh? Can't you just have two marines with HB and put them whereever you want? They may be better on the tacs, cause of their shorter range

>>53131894
My manager was giving out a single snapfit marine plus small pot of paint to newbies a while ago, not sure if GW still does that but ask around.

>>53131917
But then the squad markings on their shoulder pads wouldn't match.

I think I will stick with tacs though. Feels more beneficial there rather than trying to half kit out a dev squad

>>53131894
> I assume GW doesn't just let you to sit in the store and use their stuff to assemble/paint?
I heard they allow this. My LGS is running a newbie evening once per week so you can pay few bucks and paint their shit.
>the cost of paints/tools/materials when I am starting from absolutely seems like a lot
I will say the same thing I'm saying to all newbies. The game is as expensive as you want it to be. The secret is to play with people as poor as you. Other players at my LGS are running huge-ass armies but I prefer to play with small armies (1000pts or kill team). You can start with buying a Start Collecting and few basic paints. Then you can go with Armoured Assault box. Meanwhile buy one or two more paints. In 2-3 months you will have a 1k pts army and nothing more to buy is needed. Where are you from?

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BROTHERS!!!!!!!!

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For my Inquisitor Henchmen warbands, should I make a mob of
>Beastmen
>Lizardmen
or
>Skaven?

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>>53132014
Speaking of first models...

>>53131894
Start from scratch? well the new army formats in 8th only list the need for a single HQ Unit and a single Troops Unit so basically any "Start Collecting!" box would work, if you like Tau they have one of the best SC! boxes because every Tau army needs both the suits and the firewarriors it comes with. which country are you in?

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>>53131908
Matter of taste, Anon. With 8e I'm thinking about brewing up an ice-themed pocket Tyranid horde

>>53131952
Oh yeah you loyalist got this codex thingy and some even use it. Strange stuff.

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BREAKING NEWS
BREAKING NEWS

500 lasgun shots will bring down a baneblade

>>53132085
Fuckin noice mate

Looks like that leaker blog was correct about split fire

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>>53132114
Uh-oh - it's not mine but that's something I want to make tho. This or ice-theme painted ____Tau___

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Is cpt tycho still in the game or did gw remove him?
If he is still in the game how is he?


He was my favourite model when I was a kid

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>>53132147

>>53132108
>500 lasgun shots will bring down a baneblade

Up that brah.
Takes 324 Lasgun HITS* to kill a Orknaught.

>So 648 Guardsmen or 486 Veterans

>>53132147
>Gray tide becomes slightly less gray tide
I can dig it, maybe have a drone sled for an Ethereal

>>53132000
I'm from Ireland. There's a GW about 30 minutes away from me, and probably a few other hobby shops in the city. I've been lurking a few local forums too. I suppose the problem is I have literally no one I could go with, I don't have any friends right now, so I would have to go and try to get get info and talk and meet people to play with completely cold, and that's scaring me.

DESU the money isn't a huge problem, I have money, it's really the anxiety(what if I spend a bunch of money and then realise I hate it, or I(once again) fail to make any real connections or friends and stop forcing myself to go out to the shop) that's killing me.

Related to
>>53132056
I think I might just buy a few models and stuff online and see how I get on in private, might help me get started.

>>53132156
Died on Armageddon

>>53132179
>drone sled for an Ethereal
I see the Greater Good is attempt to usurp Logan Claws

>>53132179
A model a day, keeps the grey tide away.

Does anybody have any good names for a Slaanesh CSM warband?

>>53132212
Whores of slaanesh
Penial legion

>>53132212

The Riddle of Excess?

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>>53132195
Uh, so you are retarded. That's fine, we all are. I'm not gonna be you internet therapist but listen - just grab your shit and find your LGSs fanpages on facebook. See if they are running some kind of newbie-friendly event - I bet they are doint it. Then go and ask a stuff member to show you these funny plastic soldiers you want to spend your money on - they will be happy to milk your golden coins. If you will like it then ask on local game-group if someone have time to play few demo-matches with you. That's all mate. If you find out that it is something for you then buy Start Collecing for your favourite faction and have fun. You can also pick an Armoured Assault box but not every faction has one tho

>>53132212
orginization synonym of slaneeshi sounding noun

>>53131826
As interesting as the concept has the potential to be. It seems really mary sueish.

Plus isha doesn't have daemons.

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I'm looking for a different army to start up with the coming of 8th edition. I already play Orks and Chaos Daemons/CSM, and I would like to play a more elite army compared to the above, because I want to build/paint less models to make up my army.
Does /tg/ have any suggestions for low model count armies?

>>53132212
The Dong Squad

Big Wang's Warband

>>53132212
no because slaanesh was squatted by the horned rat in AoS and will be squatted in 40k by ynnead. daily reminder that no, slaanesh is not "still in AoS", the trapping of slaanesh is clearly GW's way of sliding fantasy/40k's tits and hair metal past under the rug for more mainstream shekels and there will be no more new slaanesh models, there haven't been in literally years.

not even shitposting, this fact makes me rage but there's no point in denying it

>>53132212
The Excessive Exotic Exclusive Exemplars of Excoriation.

Are Numarines the same size as the newer 1ksons? My rubric Marines definitely seem bigger than reg space Marines, like THICCer and a little taller

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>>53132212

The New Flesh

>>53132195
Do what I did when my previous friendships/regualar opponents fell appart. buy a few models and paints at the store and find out if and when their painting evening is. Got there every week and assemble and paint your minis while growing familiar with the locals. Find the WAACfag and play against him once your army is big enough. This should lead the way to play everybody else since he will recommend you.

>>53132195
I tried to go to the only store I know of years ago and the anxiety stopped me from actually talking to anyone
that and I suck at verbal english
I'm wondering if I should give it a try again with 8th

>>53131738
Necrons
Glue them together however (they are "lurching")
Spray paint silver
dunk in black ink wash
optional: dry brush silver again
done

>>53132306

There is no horned rat to replace Slaanesh in 40k, GW know they will be able to sell a Fulgrim Daemon primarch model and make loss of money anyway.

Slaanesh never really hadanything in fantasy to begin with, except for a chaos lord riding a titty snake and Sigvald

>>53132306
You got BTFO on that last thread already, are you so thristy for another beating ?

Make some new shitpost, because this is stale.

>>53132281
Again, they're nurgle worshippers who revere isha .The nurglite side would cover the daemonic forces of that particular warband.

The major issue with this warband is tyhat it runs heavily under the tg ideal that nurgle and isha are happy together. But then i have my theories on how they could be happy

>>53132320
Is he a Jaffa?

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http://www.strawpoll.me/12924575

What army should I run?

Leaning towards EC, just not sure because of the current Noise Marines being shitty finecast upgrade sets.

>>53132293
Are enforcer going to deal D3 mortal wounds if their squads fail morale? They are evil commisars after all

>>53132176

>First Rank fire , second rank fire, close range.
>Bring it down order (twin linked) (75 percent hit chance)

150 guardsman shoots 450 lasbolts, 337 hits.

150 guardsman costs 750 points.

Not bad at all .

>>53132358
Never seen Videodrome?

>>53132212
Handmaidens of Slaanesh
Choir of Sin
Terminators of Bliss
Transgressors
Defilers of Slaanesh
Love-mongers

>>53132371
You are assuming those orders still exist in the upcoming edition though. And that rapid fire still works the same as it does now.

>>53132371
You cant give 2 orders to one unit since they have to be followed imidiatly after being ordered. You could cast prescience though

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Does anyone know a good place to get hold of bulk cc weapon and auto/laspistol arms?

I'm trying to build cheap cultists but want them to be less obviously chaosy.

>>53132371
It's cute you think FRFSRF will still be a thing

>>53132388
Choir of Sin

I like it!

>>53132416
Buy a fuckload of GSC arms?

>>53132317
Someone posted a size comparison that I wish I had saved. The "nuMarines" appear to be the same height as Rubrics and the newer Deathwatch models.

>>53132388
Transgressors... HA!

>>53132362
I'd say EC, but kitbash your own noise weapons

>>53132033
Anyone?

>>53132388
Trans-gressors. Oh /tg/

>>53132460
Or he could wait for the big EC release that will come someday

>>53132479
For what else would /tg/ stand?

>>53132430
not going to be practical, I had a look. Needing to outfit 40 odd models.
the GSC box does look really good for shotguns though so thanks for that I might pick up a box anyway for an SW:A team

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>>53132179

>>53132195
I'm from leafland so it might be different for you but my local GW has beginner friendly Wednesdays and Sundays but you can ask your stores manager for an event calendar to be sure. Oh and it'll run you just over 100 euros for everything you need to get started (Tau start collecting 65, Hobby essentials kit 26, spray primer 14) and thats for absolutely everything you'd need to play entry-level games. I'd recommend starting soon if you were interested as you should be done building and painting your dudes for the 8th edition campaigns

>>53132482
I'll probably end up doing this.

>>53132033
Violet ogryns obviously. They should be extra sneaky. And some ratlings with powerfists and stormshields, that S4 Ap-3 will scare eveybody

>>53132371
>First Rank fire , second rank fire, close range.
Assuming FRFSRF a) exists and b) still does the same. Same goes for Rapid Fire

>Bring it down order (twin linked) (75 percent hit chance)

Can't perform two orders. Might change. And BID currently gives you Monster / Tank Hunter

>150 guardsman shoots 450 lasbolts, 337 hits.

150 is 15 squads of 10. Sergeants cannot have a Lasgun. (Currently) so only 420 shots. Which even if you're hitting on 4+ rerollable that's only 315. Aka not enough.

>150 guardsman costs 750 points.
In 7e. But in 7e a Naught costs less than 250.

>Using 3× the amount of points to kill something.

>>53131738
Well the modelling you're fucked, but you really don't need to paint.

>>53132293
Pray the Eldar Wraith Host is still a thing in 8th, if not go grey knights or thousand sons

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>>53132522

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Bits challenge, /tg/.

I'm going to take a stab at stealing this idea. I can see the helmet is a Shadow Warrior head, the arms are tactical marine arms (but I reckon I'll use scout ones instead) - what's the torso?

I'll use different legs too - what would look best?

>>53132293
Custodes
They're
>Gold
>Elite
>Dead Killy

>>53132522
Oh fuck yeah, thats what I'm talking about!

Okay, so, would a warband of chaos that worship isha by extension of worshipping nurgle be poaaible?

>>53132556
We know Rapid Fire is a thing at least, just not sure how it works. It has a value now, which is interesting.

Source: Boltgun is Rapid Fire 1

>>53132293
Harlies are a good option, as long as you can paint decently.

>>53132587
torso, leg and uncovered head look from fantasy empire greatswords.

It depends on what you want to do, both genestealer hybrids, skitarii and tempestus scions lend themselves to cool conversions

>>53132610
Why not. Its the your dudes rule. Use DA then chaos them up a bit. Nurgle on the armor and skin, with pristine robes.

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>>53132587
Might be fantasy greatswords. The slash of cloth on the middle dude definitely looks the same.

(If you're having trouble finding them among AOS's silly names, you want Grand Alliance Order, then Free Peoples.)

>>53132587
don't really like the helmets, they look too eldar to me
the arms are waaay too long too, they look like apemen or something.

The torse and legs are from some fantasy empire or breton kit i think. If its true it might be one piece.

>>53132587
Wish you had a better angle showing more of the chest.

Guessing WHFB Empire some kit

>I'll use scout ones instead

Careful with those. They non-Bolter Arm is formed missing a chunk as it forms around the Scout Chest.

Not game ending, but extra work with those arms

>>53132587

Never skip leg day

>>53132576
Fuck SW:A and blood bowl we need podracing in 40k!

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>>53132535
this is useful, thank you

>>53132587
I've been stealing this idea, just put them together, those are fantasy greatswords torsoa and legs

>>53132610
Sure, have them worship her as an aspect of Nurgle.

>The cure for your life's troubles is DEATH!.

>>53132587
>>53132643
Definitely looks like these guys. Looks like both Far Lefts have the same legs

>>53132664
TFW no gorkamorka ever cause no multiple factions from off the shelf components

>>53132610
They are the wildfire that heals
They are the plague that opens lands to new life
They are the doom of the unworthy, the saviors of the inheritors
They are the bringers of life... through death.

(Isha through Nurgle... or both?)
I dig it.

>>53132664
Bring back Wazdakka Redline racing

Are the White Scars the best first founding legion? They got shit done on Terra during the heresy while everyone else cowered behind the walls of the Palace (credit where it is due, Sangy was pretty bad ass as well). Have they done any wrong? Also, Fat Bloke played them, so that is +10 points on its own.

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>>53132702
>transports in gorkamorka could carry as many models as you could fit into them

>>53132752
not even close. they amble about and do a couple of things, then pass back into obscurity... though to be fair this could just be because GW doesn't like space mongols until just recently

>>53132755
But didn't any model that fell off when the vehicle moved took massive damage?

>>53132755
>That Kastellan holding on for dear life
Adorable.

>>53132707
Both, as equals.

The biggest issue i see is that if they were to bne seen as equals that implies isha is happy to be around nurgle . but then there is the theory the cage is less about keeping isha in and more keeping slannesh out.

So that's what this warband runs on

>>53132768
I would argue that you hear little about them because they just got shit done. They didn't need the fanfare and ceremony of some of the other legions. They took one of the two spaceports available to Horus during the siege of Terra and cut his reinforcements by half and kept it. I'd really like to see more about them but I guess I have to agree that they are a bit obscure.

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>Reading a butthurt Eldar player throwing a tantrum on some forum
>Because dreadnought have no right to have similiar stats or even a remote chance against just a wraithlord
>Because his precious eldar always had better rules, and that should not change
>Because 'muh eldar superiority'

By the Emperor, I love 8th edition already.

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Alpha Legion best legion

Also, what do you think would be better?

1) Actually revealing theyr lore and secrets? (Like, who were Alpharion and Omegon, what they did and did not, what the legion used to do before knowing them, how they died in case they did etc)

2) Do not reveal them and remain a mystery and fabric of theories and secrecy?

>>53132195
It's tough. I don't know anyone in the hobby. I showed up to two different stores and just hung around until I met more people. I know more now, but not enough to have contact information. It's hard to get over that anxiety and it feels like everyone knows each other already, but if you hang around enough people will start realizing you're fine and will open up more.

>>53132824
post moar salt

>>53132824
Reminds me of 3rd edition when Gav Thorpe wrote the Eldar codex and made wraithlords T8 and had a big rant about how it was fair then added at the end that he uses two in his tournament list. Eldar faggots are the worst.

>>53132824
All the tau and eldar butthurt is fucking delicious, now if only I could decide between marines, grey knights and astra to ally with my skitarii...

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>>53132610
>hey blob, why do we have to worship this grumpy elf alongside our benevolent father?
>like the river needs to flow from up the mountain before joining the swamp so we protectors of our father's eden need to take care of the sprouting of life before reaping the fruits of its magnificent decay, it's a clean job, murdy, but someone ought to do it

>>53132846
Definately keep the mystery, secrets, and uncertaincies around the Alpha Legion. That's their whole charm to begin with, and makes them the most Your Dudes of all the pre-existing space marines.

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How nurgle daemons are doing in 7e? Have never run them nor played against them. How a playable and budget 1k pts list looks like? Are they easy to run? How they work with DG/CSM?

>>53132212
buttmasters of ass candy
sisters of cock
axillophiles
immaculators
scourge of cuntwash-9
her anal harvest
starbound sissies
chains of sodomy
douchefinders
excessive leakers
pink pounders
breath of nuts
fulgrim's sweathearts
perfect precepts
mound mashers
debasers rosé
willing seeds

BROTHERS

How triggered would people be if i built a tyranid army

Base coated them all black

Dry brushed dark brown on them

And called them an ant army

>>53132881
wraithlords being made into non-vehicles was such a fucking mistake

I think I might have bitched him out about it back on portent.

>>53132846
I'd personally go the middle road, and reveal little tidbits, but have some of them give implications and misdirections as to what they've done and been behind.

Should lead to some fun theories and guesswork

>>53131650
when?

>>53132885
Take Grey Knights and fashion them as some sekrit near-heretek force set up by your Forge World on a planet that has an incrediby high number of Psykers. They'd essentially be huge-ass psychic Skitarii elites, fluff wise.

>>53132909
If you would put some glitter on them I would be okay with that

>>53132909
That would be actually hilarious

>>53132425
I hope it will.

>>53131650
I don't believe it

>>53132885
Tau here, quite looking forward to 8th. It'll be nice being able to wound up to T9 on 5+ with my basic infantry, as well as being able to moonwalk out of CC.

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>>53132909
it would turn out horrible

do this
>pic related
>army painter quickshade

>>53132917
He was such a twat about some of his rules, I'll give him his due though that he would interact with the community at least. I think he was just trying to emulate Andy Chambers, no chance of that.

>>53132956
well, at some point in the future his prediction will prove correct. It's just that we have no idea when that is :^)

>>53132425
GW confirmed that orders will still be in, so there's a good chance it will be.

What was the latest reveal from GW community today btw?
Missed it at work

>>53131615
>But all of them will have -1 armor save mod

>>53132922
when the aporkalypse comes

>>53131738
Honestly with minimal effort your models won't look terrible from a distance

>>53133009
Infantry I think. Split fire for all units now.

>>53133010
Will they? So far it's looking like AP 5/6/- translates to AP - in 8e.

>>53133009
INFANTRY WILL KILL ALL YOUR SHIT!

TACTICAL SQUADS ARE THE NEW HOTNESS!

ORK BOYZ? MORE LIKE NON-STOP RAPE TRAIN!

>>53132156
There's 2 versions of him in the 7th ed Blood Angels codex although he's technically dead

>>53133009
Supposedly it is about infantry, but the revealed to wound 'chart' is the biggest news I think. Besides split fire for everybody.

>>53133009
new to wound chart
>if strength is half the toughness on 6+
>if strength is lower than toughness 5+
>if strength is equal to toughness on 4+
>if strength is higher than toughness 3+
>if strength is double than toughness 2+

also units can split fire freely as many times with as many models against as many targets as you want

>>53133009
>>53133029
Infantry. Main reveals are that Split Fire is universal, and we have a new wound-chart.

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>thin paints and they still turn out chalky and thick in a few areas
>try thinning them even more
>still

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>Get my GF into 40k lore so she could choose an army to have some fun with KT in 8e
>She wants to run Orks or Skitarii
Where is my >female are playing Nids meme?

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>>53132824
SALT FOR THE SALT THRONE

>>53133081
Tell her that the nids birth out cuddly tentacle monsters that consume everything, then return to the womb.

She wont be able to resist.

>>53132824
Link please, I want to drink the delicious xeno tears

>There is stuff you just can’t do very well with vehicles, bikes and walkers, like hold ruins, use cover effectively and swarm the battlefield in numbers to claim every objective.

Are we downplaying this part? What if 8th edition has much harsher terrain rules for non-infantry?

>>53133079
Some paints are chalky by nature. Try using an acrylic medium, or even another brand for that color.

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>>53133081
females are attracted to nids at first glance due to their look alone
if she got to choose after delving into the lore the outcome will be different

>>53132896
Currently DG/CSM can summon like 500 points of daemons in the psych phase, so there's no use in taking just daemons.

>>53133134
Good? They just need to add a "only infantry may occupy ruins" and it'll be a good change.

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>>53133144
>>53133111
Actually I'm the one liking Nids in this relationship. Ironic

>>53133081
I have bad news for you anon, your girlfriend is actually a boyfriend. Which one of you has the penis? If it isn't both of you then I have even m ore confusing news. You might be a lady anon.

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>>53132049
>I wasn't always a Red Guard Guy...

>>53132909
Let them carry some sticks, barrels, pieces of plastahl, sandwiches and guardsman for their hive.

>>53133168
>>53133171 beat me to it. Hope you like futa.

>>53132033
Yes

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>>53133188
Welp, it's time to run some ni/d/s

>>53133195
No

>>53132970
You're assuming Pulse Rifles are staying Strength 5 and not becoming like S4 with a -1 Rend or something.

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Does this kit come with enough bits to make to the more human looking Hybrids? More human arms (like the autogun and shotgun arms) and heads.

>>53133032
I hope w get better access to heavy stubbers sometimes. They should be quite good now. A bolter trading precision for more shoots. And that +1 strength play a way bigger role now since many MC are T6

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>>53132014

>>53133266
>since many MC are T6
We have no way of knowing which ones are staying T6 and which ones are getting tougher.

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>>53133234
MFW when every basic infanrty gun becomes S4 AP 0 and they only differ by range and number of shoots, except guardsmen cause HFY.

>>53132824
When was the last time you saw a WraithLORD on the tabletop?! OP? not even close

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>>53133291
Well it should be the bare minimum for MCs. Getting shoot of the board by lasguns is very embarrassing

>>53133290
what was that suppose to be? a marine?

>>53133234
This is entirely possible, and would be a good way to differentiate Pulse Rifles from other infantry weapons. S4 AP -1 would be better for most infantry tasks than S5 AP0, I think.

>>53133302
Lasguns are going to be S3 with an armor modifier of +1.

>>53132049
>>53132014
Goddammit I just tossed my first squad of cadians into the Simple Green. The skin tone I had chosen was too orange and the Sealant had malfuntioned covering them in a fuzzy, dusty color (I blame Florida Summer).

They looked like a bunch of oompah loompahs fell into the flour bin! And now I can't show you because they've already started to melt!

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>>53133363
This guys probably

>>53133223
Johnny Bravo, Primarch. Is he Heretic or Loyalist?

>>53133375
>Butthurt Marine Rumors

Man, the Tau infantry is suddenly going to be a real ass to fight.

>>53133308

I like it

>>53132937
Dude this is brilliant, could kitbash with the spare bits from the vanguard/ranger/sicarian sprues even.

>>53132970
Dude enjoy not shooting ever if thats your plan to deal with CC.

>>53132610
I like it. Like a Yin and Yang sort of thing.

>>53133418
Feed them with you powermaul and it will be fine. Except it won't be, since the still get a 5+ armour save against it.

>>53133168
I mean dont worry anon i like my girlfriend to peg me also.

>>53133242
the GW page has pics of the sprues, I think there's enough to equip them all without using clawed hands but you'll to find more human heads cause I think they're all a bit alien

>>53133290
I have no voxcaster but need to scream

>>53133400
He'd be a loyalist, constantly hounded by Slaanesh's best daemons and mortal followers, but too fucking stupid and absorbed in his hair and pecs to score or notice.

>>53133009
>"we're making the game faster, it should play in 1.5 hours instead of 2.5 or 3"
>every unit has splitfire, making shooting with each unit take twice as long

what did GW mean by this

How are a mostly pure Deathwing Knights army? Do they get shot off the board like regular termies or does the +1T help when marching them up the board?

>>53133452
Tau have the range and power to not stand next to each other and still blast enemies off the map, as well as the ability to have multiple firing lines. You don't have to have huge blobs of infantry getting tied down with every charge, with the new detachments you can shit out smaller units and whoever is in the front is a sacrifice for the greater good.

>>53133533
The game is fine it's just the players who are wrong

>>53131568
Seems like bolters are going to be in a good spot, since they'll wound anything t7 and under on a 5+

MultiLasers and anythign Strength 6 looks good too since you'll never wound on less than a 5+

>>53133515
>buff Fulgrim too busy staring at himself and flexing to notice that chaos gods exist, Slaanesh personally goes to convert him and he just starts sweating and runs away

It's like if you took 80s 40k and turned it up to 11. I can dig it

>>53133400
>its a Johnny Bravo visits a Sister of Battle chapel episode
>its a Johnny Bravo negotiates with Howling Banshees episode
>its a Johnny Bravo mistakes Fulgrim for a woman again episode

I'd watch that.

>>53133564
Toughness can go above 10 now

>>53133564
Except when you do, Titans, Land Raiders and Fortification can easily go over T 10

>>53133533
I mean unless you are shooting at a different target with all ten of your marines/all 20 of your gaunts it shouldnt take that long.

>>53133564
>you'll never wound on less than a 5+

laughing-toughness14-landraiders.exe

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>>53131568
>Brings a Titan formation to a "narrative" game
>T 20
>W 50
>SV 2+
>each
>Opponent sends fabious bile into combat with them
>he hits first due to assaulting
>hits
>wounds on 6+ (because everything can do that in 8th
>I fail my save
>His weapon is Instant Death
>Remove Titan from the field
>Remove other 2 Titans after failing battle shock

8th is looking fun guys, really.

>>53132049
At least the blue guy is of OK quality (though the eyes look ridiculous), better than I could do as a kid!

So the shit posts were right, and everything actually can hit on a 6, or am I misinterpreting something from that infantry post?

So will battlesuits be able to target different targets without a target lock in 8th? Do you think missile pod plasma would be a good option?

>>53133632
You changed your image, but your bait didn't get any better.

>>53133632
Man I can't wait to field fab now

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Something I noticed in the Morkanaut reveal; it hits on 3's at base. That possibly bodes well for Orks in melee, since the Orkanauts are both WS4 currently, just like all Orks. So that might mean that Orks hit on a 3+ in melee, with a 2+ for stuff like Ghaz and the Warboss (and maybe Nobz).

Do you guys ever make special rules for warlords in narrative battles?

>>53133632
>implying vehicles won't have rules against instant death

it makes literally zero sense for a magic staff to ID a tank. it's not going to happen bro, try again.

>>53133671
Yup, if we get to keep all our cc attacks the Boyz will be a force to fear

>>53133676
Fab gets infiltrate and can charge in turn 1.

>>53133671
I'd argue that only cc-focused named characters and chapter master tier units will be able to hit on a 2+
Definitely not Nobz. Not when terminator still hits on a 3+

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>>53133632
You were asking for it you filthy slut! No one fields anything less than Imperator titans against Big Sugar Mcdaddy Bile!.

>>53133710
You know what?
I'll just wait for a your dudes thread

>>53133650
>So will X be able to
who knows

>is missle+plasma good
probably, it's already decent if less-than-optimized

>>53133699
ID doesn't even exist in 8th. He's been posting that in every thread for days now, despite it being factually impossible.

(Formations also don't exist, that's not how battleshock works, and that's not what a narrative game is)

>>53133699
There isn't ID anymore at all, anon

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>>53133632
>This guy shows up in every thread.

>>53133632
>bringing Titan killer formation to a "narrative game"
>Fabious Bile and 20 "new Man" CSM
>T4, 3+ armour save S 5, 1 wound
>each
>charge them all
>loose all of them expect FB to overwatch
>cause 1 wound
>fails save
>retarded opponent packs the back in because muh battleshock
>FB gets munched by a bunch of grotguns next turn.

>>53133716

Nobz can get WS5 currently with a WAAAAGH banner. Could see them getting +1 to hit from having one in a unit.

>>53133671
I thought it was obvious, WS/BS: 4 is 3+, WS/BS: 3 is 4+, and so on. However it seems any score above WS/BS: 5 is just converted to 2+, as we can see with Guilliman.

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>yfw Kharn now hits automatically and gets a number of attacks equal to the number of models in assault with him

>>53133770
doubt that

he'll probably still hit on 2+, and any misses get allocated to nearby friendly units

I wonder if they will keep legion rules and what the Alpha legions will be.

>>53133596
>>53133598
>>53133614
Fuck this edition.

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>>53133725
>Implying this isn't the funniest shit right now.

>Bring 10 guardsmen to game
>Fire plasma gun
>Gets hot, kills gunner
>Roll battleshock
>3 more guardsmen flee in terror
Can't wait for 8th

>>53133791
They'll likely be in as part of the core CSM codex the way chapter tactics are for loyalists. There's no way they won't be.

>>53133796
>I don't instagib everything, this sucks
Fuck this guy.

>>53133676
yep. me and my m8 basically just had a thing in casual games where you could take almost anything you want, as long as you paid the points and it was WYSIWYG. and you could make up stuff and points cost it yourself if it was cool and we both agreed.

I had a khorne CSM army at the time and I made my havoc sergeant into an HQ with an old school "teeth of khorne" theme, his rules let me take one unit of havocs as troops as long as they had mark of khorne and replaced their bolters with autocannons, heavy bolters, or missile launchers only. he also let that unit reroll misses once per game and had some relic chainsword I came up with, I don't remember much about the details. fun times.

and we would generally let each other take illegal units like as long as you paid the points under the unit's listing for the extra stuff you took. that guy moved away though, was an alright chap.

>>53133791
>>53133829

Maybe they'll be stratagems for an army.

>>53133766
That's possible, but there is also the possibility that there will not be a WAAAAAGH banner anymore
All the models will have rules, but I wouldn't be sure that all the options to be kept

>>53133722
Remember when Fab commanded the whole ECs and someone broke them by throwing a medium sized space ship on it?

Or when he tried to take that odd Craftworld with the biggest EC warband at that time? Where he only fielded several CSM warbands without special or heavy weapons and a bunch of noise marines and he only survived because the harlequin player wanted to forge the narrative?

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>>53133632

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>>53133805
>literally all the units in 40k are getting new rules on 8th release
>this means fabulous bill might actually not be turbo shit this go around

if so I might get him and make a unit of CSM experiments, depending on how his new rules work.

what are some units you are hoping get decent new rules in 8th, and what do you hope for them, /tg/?

>>53133796
Is being so pessimistic not miserably exhausting?

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>>53133806

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>>53133806
>Roll battleshock

Not on my watch!.

>>53133639
>>53133639
Your comment makes me smile. At least most people can recognize all the guardfags in here can't paint for shit.

>>53133806
Well you would run away too, if a 1000 year old machine spirit that is more worth than your entire bloodline decides to hate your guts today.

>>53133918
>Fail your battleshock test against Fab
>Comissar executes one of your warlord titans for reroll
>fail again
Nice! I love 8e!

>>53133902
always a giggle

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>>53133927
You're gay, I can paint good.

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>>53132522
Wacky Races: 40k Edition when?

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>>53133967
orkz exist

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>>53133967
One day.

>>53133967
Writefags, get on it now.

>>53133918

>Roll Battleshock
>Fail
>Mob Rule kicks in, Orks run towards closest enemy and if they make contact fight a free round of close combat because they're really fired up!
>Opponent flips the table, turns 360 degrees and walks off

I hate playing the meta army in 8th

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>>53133940
kek

>>53133843
>Wanting to 1 wound on a 6+
>intagib
I think you might have gone full fire warrior.

>>53133806
I'd run if that happened. I'm just sayin'...

>>53134018
>>Mob Rule kicks in, Orks run towards closest enemy
I honestly like that idea. Like low leadership means they are too excited to follow orders and just want to kill something. Maybe taking casualties in the process.

>>53133470
Rumours and speculation point towards melee weapons having a more aggressive rend value translation from their AP than shooting weapons.

For example Chainswords, which are AP -, will definitely be a Rend -1 at minimum, whereas Bolters being AP 5 become Rend 0.

Melee weapons have to jump through a lot of hoops to get in range so they get to fuck you up a lot better when they get there.

>>53134077
>Khorne havocs got shot
>Take some casualties
>Blood for the Blood God kicks in
>Khorne havocs stop shooting shit and run at the closest enemy unit and start punching faces

Sadly I fear battleshock is gonna be too dumb for cool shit like this.

>>53133796
I suspect you might just be memeing so it takes away from my delicious enjoyment of your butt salt. I am a tad drink though too.

>>53134077

Well they'd eat Overwatch, and if they didn't make contact, they'd still be running closer, putting them in rapid fire range and moving them out of cover probably.

>>53134116
Strength will probably add AP similar to how it works in 2nd ed/SW:A.

>>53133967
Who would be Dastardly and Muttly? I vote Huron and his familiar.

>>53134153
Not Trazyn and Creed?

>>53134127
>too dumb
what an asshole.
give rules a chance

>>53134127
>losing control of your unit and having it run off to do stupid shit is "cool"

did you work on the 6th edition CSM codex by chance

>>53134032
We don't know multi-lasers are single wound damage value.

>>53132108
I still haven't played since 5th lol.

>>53134169
What, people loved that shit with Black Templars, when they still had their own codex.

R.I.P. Black Templars, you are missed.

>>53132896
40 Plaguebearers + 6 Nurgling bases + 3 Plague Drones + 2 Heralds + 1 GUO = roughly 1000 points after factoring in typical upgrades. I may be remembering that wrong, but if I am it's still pretty close to that.

IMO, at 1000 points and below, everything but the GUO is just chaff and the GUO is hard to handle. They don't have enough points to comfortably deal with the rest of your daemons without letting your GUO close in, add Biomancy to the mix and you can take on most Space Marine lists.

Not really playable against Eldar and Tau, though. At least not if they're actually trying to win.

>>53133806
>rolling a 10 on a d6+1
I'd run too if the dice hated me so much they broke the laws of realspace.

>>53133902
>commissar shoots a guardsmen to restore morale
>because an extra model died an extra model attempts to flee
>commissar shoots a guardsmen to restore morale
>because an extra model died an extra model attempts to flee
>commissar shoots a guardsmen to restore morale
>because an extra model died an extra model attempts to flee
>commissar shoots a guardsmen to restore morale
>because an extra model died an extra model attempts to flee

>>53133964
>>53133927
Rekt by Valhallans

So how will 'kill some of my guys to pass morale' abilities, that ork and guard have work with the new system?

>>53133967
Ork Boss Zagstruk in a catch the pigeon scenario

>>53134214
I thought the Idiot who didn't understand statistics was in the infantry article thread?

>>53134216
I actually could see never losing more than a single guardsman to Battleshock being a thing a Commisar does when he's in a unit.

>>53134142
I doubt it, since Strength values are no longer capped at 10 there's no easy way to do that table like with the new S/T chart.

They'll just tie it into the weapons.

>>53134216
Mob rule then?

>>53134216
You know the wording is going to be something like "The unit passes the morale test and does not need to take any further morale tests this phase" or something like that.

>>53133806
And yeah, not how battleshock works.

>>53134238
Oh that's nice and clean and simple.

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I want to play 1000 point games, Kill Team and SW:A - will pic related be okay or should I try to get the eldar half of Death Masque? I will have a hard time to find someone in my area willing to split the box with me so the first one looks really handy

>>53132587

Christ, that's a bit out of scale isn't it? They have gorilla arms.

Fantasy was closer to true 25mm, 40K is usually 28mm and Space Marines are obviously taller than an average man.

>>53134292
both would be good choices. but really harleys are fucking hax in SWA

>>53133290
Moah paint means moah awesomness... :3

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>>53134228
so this?

>>53134127
>seeing you battle brother die inspires the Khornates to commit sudoku because the too want to spill blood
>when Khorne units fail battle shock you get blood tide points,
>that work similar to command points but can only be used to reroll to hit and wound.

>>53134245
Maybe but you could just base it on the to wound chart, basically S adding AP value indirectly. Something like:

IF you wound on a 2+, add -2AP to your attacks

>>53134250
Don't you ruin my hyperbole with common sense and reasoning, you big bully.

>>53134292
That's probably a pretty good way to start all things considered. I don't know if your be able to use it for Shadow Wars though, since I think it's just guardians in that, though honestly a box of them would be a good addition anyway.

>>53133806
>bring squadron of three wraithknights to game
>fail dangerous terrain test in movement phase
>roll battleshock
>all the wraithknights flee in terror
fucking eighth edition, man

>>53134232
Huh? 1d6+1 is 2-7, so his example of rolling a 10 on it is indeed literally impossible.

>>53134238
>>53134289
That sounds downright perfect. In fact, if that's not how it works I'm going to use this.

>>53133173
Reminds me of a Tau army I saw that was "painted" with sharpies.

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>>53134023

>>53134314
That could be a simple way I could see them implementing it, yeah.

Would think they would have mentioned it in the Fight phase article, but then again we also would have thought they'd mention the new split fire rules in the Shooting phase article so.

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>>53133632
>I read enough to shitpost
>but not enough to realize I'm a fucking retard.

>>53134292

That looks pretty good. I don't think you need the far-seer on foot, I would exchange him for some more bikes or an aspect.

>>53133789
That would be a straight downgrade from what he has now considering several other models will hit on 2+.

>>53134373
>almost

>>53132587
>>53132633
>>53132644
>>53132646
>>53132683
>>53132661
>>53132698
Good answers all! I'll get together some Shadow Warrior heads, Greatswords torsos, and some Astartes bolter arms. Good call on the scout arms, never worked with them before so I didn't realise. I thought these ones looked too big and clunky, but then again it is carapace armour so...

In terms of legs, I think I'll go for Scout legs, for MAXIMUM POUCHES.

>>53134373
>almost
>same as no
>implying the Fab won't old one of the rare ID weapons

>>53134373
>almost no instant kill weapons
>means there is few of those
Fabious Bile confirmed for titan killer.

>>53134395
He'll probably just get a ton of extra attacks to make up for other characters hitting on 2's.

>>53134373
This message has literally been reposted on this board multiple times a day despite everyone shitting on it.

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>>53134371
Does he piss on them or is that holy promethium?

>>53134375
Not gonna lie - I picked him because I like his aesthetic. AoS made me a HQ/Hero fetishist

How do you guys think Yarrick will work in the new edition?

>>53134397
>>53134407
>>53134417
They removed Destroyer weapons and the ID special rule already. They are. however, allowing leeway for super weapons.

>>53134435

In that case get a Spiritseer of Autarch instead.

>>53134373
>multi-wound models are no longer safe from the wrath of the blast template

prepare your anus, MC spam motherfuckers

>pulse rifle effectiveness versus guardsmen going through the floor

Delicious.

>>53134456
So are we going to annoy the GW facebookpage until they errata Fabs wounding potencial to D6 * D6?

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>>53134430
Man, this reminds me of Dawn of War 3. I can't wait for IG (or any content, really) to release.

>big ass fucking imperial knight walks into shin-high grass
>knight shrouded!
>enemy tries to hide in grass
>suddenly, knight titan looming over them with guns whirling
>CREEEEEEEEEED

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So, the 'infantry' preview showed us the new to-wound chart and that you no longer need to fire all weapons in a unit at the same target.

What does that have to do with infantry? They basically told us nothing specifically about infantry did they?

>>53134373

Now that will kind of suck given melee was one of the good things Orkanauts had going for them.

Can think if even less reasons to take one now over more Deff Dreads and Killa Kans.

And since Destroyer is now only STR 10, AP1, I'm seeing even fewer reasons to take a Stompa.

Will they ever make chaos Orkz cannon again? I want to field a warband of them alongside chaos machines

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>>53134456
>implying fab isn't a super weapon

>>53134513
>And since Destroyer is now only AP1
There isn't even AP in the game anymore, you goose. Wait to see the actual rules before victimizing yourself.

>>53134515
Chaos Orkz are canon, Anon. No idea why you think otherwise.

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>>53134542
>implying I would ever deny that

>>53134545
Yeah but I want rules for them

>>53134515
Why dont you kitbash your own chaos ork cannons?

>>53134512
They did.

There is stuff you just can’t do very well with vehicles, bikes and walkers, like hold ruins, use cover effectively and swarm the battlefield in numbers to claim every objective.

Infantry can hold shit other kinds of units can't and can make (better) use of cover.

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Will this be viable?

>>53134615

Since Destroyer has been nerfed and Stomp is gone (someone correct me if I'm wrong), you can probably get away with doing that.

Not to say that further information won't discredit that as we learn more about 8th.

>>53134615
It's a good desperate action you really couldn't do before, but the game probably won't have enough turns to actually stab a titan to death.

>>53134615
Sure, but the amount of guardsmen you would have to paint, to have enough brave imperial lads to kill one within six turns, would make you sick at the sight of paint by the end.

>>53134615

> Guardsmen corpses gunk up the leg motors.
> Collapses and explodes on Ork army.
> High Lords make him sector governor.

>>53134651
no word on stomp since we haven't seen any detailed unit rules

>>53134651
>>53134671
>>53134694

Plus, isn't it likely the whole platoon would bust morale from losses long before they accomplish anything of note?

Plus, can't you step out of combat now or something?