Warhammer 40k General /40kg/

First for Dark Angels are traitors

Eldar needs more stories so we can drop this traitor snorefest.

""""""""loyalists""""""""

So if we had to rank all the founding chapters from the most loyal to the least what would the order be? how bout from the strongest to the weakest?

>>53123882
Eldar are fugging gay

>>53123875
>>53123883
Fuck off, /r/Warhammer40k

>>53123893
Not as gay as "we have a dark secret, we're based on a homosexual novel" dark angels gay.

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>>53123883
SORRY HERETIC! CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER ALL THIS LOYALTY! IT IS ITS OWN REWARD YOU KNOW?

"We drive manly motorcycles to compensate for the fact that we're gay" dark *angels*

>>53123904
>novel
>he isn't even able to get his shitty forced meme straight
Absolutely hilarious.

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>>53123891
>strongest
like there are other options

Prince Yriel's story is more interesting than any of this gay traitor shit.

Out of all the loyalists, the Dark Angles are the least loyal. That's like being the most loyal traitor, which is Alpha Legion.

Ok anons how will kustom force field work in 8th? Will it still be a straight 5++ or some new mechanic?

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FEE FI FO FUM, I'M HERE FOR YOUR REDDIT CUM

>>53123942
6++, affects MODELS within 6" of the bearer, that works even against mortal wounds but only in ranged combat, and for every saved wound the shot gets deflected to the nearest FRIENDLY model.

Today will be the preview of Astra Militarum. Are you hyped???

I'm not sure I am, they didnt really tell us anything in CSM preview other than "power armor is great again".It was never great in first place.

>>53123923
>expected Ultras
>Got Blood Angels
Pleasantly surprised to see another Blood Brother here

>>53123961
I wish they released the rules already so I could see how it affects my local gaming club.

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>>53123960

Did the DA fanboy even make the thread? Lel

Hey guys, I got caught up in a warpstorm heading here. What's up with the Reddit witch-hunting? I thought ytmnd and newgrounds fags are the real enemy

>>53123961

Not if it follows the same format as the first Faction Focus.

>We haven't seen Ogryns much in the game for a while now, but in 8th Edition, everyone's favorite abhumans are going to be really punching above their weight! Expect to see them cropping up a lot!
>Oh, and speaking of crops, we've got more exciting news about the Imperium's doughty front-line tractor, the Leman Russ! The humble battlecannon has taken a side-line to other, more powerful options currently, but that's all set to change! Even without templates, battlecannons will be taking some big chunks out of any unit foolish enough to be in their line of fire!
>Did someone say fire?! Hellhounds are one of the most iconic units of the Guard, yet sadly they haven't been as iconically present in people's armies for a while now! Heretics, mutants and xenos beware; the Hounds of Hell are coming for you!
>Finally, I wanted to touch on another unit people have been wanting to use for ages: the Sentinal! If you were someone looking to include a few of these strutting clankers in your list (read: everyone!) then 8th Edition is going to be your edition!

Guise we need an immersive multi faction 1st person open world mmo fps

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>>53123859
>Brings a Titan formation to a "narrative" game
>T 20
>W 50
>SV 2+
>each
>Opponent sends fabious bile into combat with them
>he hits first due to assaulting
>hits
>wounds on 6+ (because everything can do that in 8th
>I fail my save
>His weapon is Instant Death
>Remove Titan from the field
>Remove other 2 Titans after failing battle shock

C-Can't wait.

Didn't gw tease that a loyal legion and traitor legion would swap sides or was that a meme that I was only half paying attention to and assumed was real?

>>53124147
It was a eldar prophecy..
and we know how reliable THEY are.

I might want to start a chaos themed GSC army... like, using GSC rules but using chaos models and/or GSC and chaos kitbashes.
How would you think I should go about it?
Using regular chaos cultists as neophytes is a no-brainer (or probably use GSC weapons and some bits with chaos cultists) and the vehicles is also clear but what would work best as acolytes or abarents and the other models?
Opinions?

>>53124059
Imagine how much hype for follow-up faction focuses if they'd actually told us anything. Give us the Berzerker statline, the Havoc pricing scheme, and Abaddon's new aura, and people would be talking about it like mad.

>>53124147
It's a meme that got started by shitposters and proliferated due to retards like yourself repeating it with no proof.

>>53124138
i'm starting to develop a taste for this pasta.

where can i buy some for myself?

>>53123891

Raven Guard would be in top 3. Horus Heresy book 3 mentions that because mostly Terran RG died before Horus' betrayal the Warrior Lodges didn't take off much in the Legion, and as a result they had some of the fewest (if not the fewest) traitors form in their ranks.

>>53124162
I wasn't spreading it I was asking ab actual question because I remembered hearing something about it.

>>53124138
Fabulous Bob the Titankiller

>>53124147
I think it was primarchs instead of legions, but I'm not sure either.

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>>53124138

>>53124156
Bump for interest

>>53124176
>if not the fewest
There's at least one instance in canon of a Raven Guard switching sides and working for the traitors (Alastair Rushal). Name one (1) instance of an Ultramarine siding with Horus. I'll be waiting

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>>53124176
Most of the Terran RG didn't die so much as were put into effective exile as part of a nomad-predation fleet hunting beyond the galactic plane. They weren't heard from again.

>>53124221

That too. Can't remember the actual battle, but a bunch did die in the battle that caused Corax to withdraw his Legion from Horus' command.

>>53124205
Roboutte "Lets Make A New Empire While Terra is Still Under Siege" Guilliman

>>53123959

Saw this on imgur, looks too sloppy

>>53124235
Don't you mean
Roboute "Lets Make A New Empire While Terra Is Unreachable And Possibly Destroyed To Keep The Flame Of My Father's Vision Alive " Guilliman
?

>>53124252
No I mean Roboute "I'm the worst piece of lore since Age of Sigmar and I should be squatted" Guilliman

>>53124261
That's no way to speak of the Lord Commander of the Imperium.

>>53124261
Nah his name is Roboute "These old marines that my dad who is literally an omnipotent immortal made aren't good enough so I'll team up with this 10,000 bundle of flesh and wires to make better ones because that's totally not heresy" Guilliman.

>>53123961
They said back in a few days for IG, not tomorrow at articles end

Yvraine > Girlyman

>>53124294
Foot fetish bait is arguably worse than that piece of gary stu filth desu

>>53124252
No, I mean "Let's forbid troops I don't even command from trying to reach Terra because if they save the day I won't get to be the new emperor" Guilliman

>>53124294
> Goes through a lot of shit to become the perfect warrior, instead of sleeping for thousands of years and waking up to an inheritance from God

>>53124294
Well obviously I would rather bang Yvraine than girlyman

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I can't wait for The Great Wolf Leman Russ, Wolf King of the Space Wolves to return for the Wolf Time and take over as Wolf Emperor of the Imperium of Wolf with his nuWolf Marines at his side.

FEMALE NUWOOF MARINES

> be good looking
> start playing 40k
> suddenly girls hang around the hobby store more even if my shit is unpainted
> owner should pay me for free marketing

>>53124349
Go away ShareWolf

>>53123936
Too bad that novel reads like trash

Why are Bolters -1 Ap in SW:A but not in 8th?

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Also did you know the 7E Space Wolves codex uses the word "wolf" approximately 823 times? That's approximately 8 wolfs a page!

>>53124346
what are you, gay?

>>53124392
Like honestly that ""girl"" looks like a man with a photoshopped hairline

>>53124138
im sad this past wont last long, seeing as how they said on the large model thing that you wont be able to instantly remove knights

>>53124389
Because SW:A is a different kind of game.

>>53124176
raven guard would be number 1, corvus was the only primarch the emperor trusted with his secrets to making marines

>>53124406
That was vague as fuck. You've might as well not answered.

>>53124425
SW:A is a small-scale skirmish game
40k is an army-scale game
They require different mechanics to work

>>53124391
I hate them. I wish they could just be space vikings

>>53124444
That doesn't answer my question.

>>53124453
Yes it does you mongoloid chimp
Use your brain

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>>53124294
They are better together.

>>53124461
>use your brain
Not an answer either. In 8e Ap2 was replaced with -3, so Ap4 should be -1. But Bolters were Ap5, and thus don't have a modifier in 8e.

So why the hell do they have one in Shadow War?

>>53124489
Okay. It's because Shadow War didn't copy AoS rules.

>>53124489
Ap 5, 6, - were fairly identical threat levels. Now horde killer weapons are no AP.

>>53124507
Fuck I give up. You're either trolling me or incapable of reading comprehension.

>>53124516
Ok, but I'm still confused as to why they have a modifier in Shadow War but none in 8e. But then again SW:A is weird as fuck -2 Chainswords and Ap- Power Axes.

I guess the question would be, which one is fluffier?

>>53124522
There is no reason that there should be correlation between SW:A and 40K rules. They're completely different games. Fuck, SW:A could have bolters be strength 5 -3 save and it wouldn't have to affect how they're in 40k in any way.

>>53123891
The Dark Angels are the most loyal to the Emperor himself. However they miss the forest for the trees, and thus have little loyalty to the Imperium itself.

>>53124278
It's getting a bit mouthfull

>>53124544
For game balance. -1 bolters will do a lot more hurt in larger games.

>>53124588
>they miss the jonson for the trees
fixed

>>53124588
this
accurate description. They care to much about their hunt for the fallen, to make their loyalty to the emperor absolute, but they end up ignoring the imperium as a entity.

>>53124601
Why don't they just wake up Lionel Jansson since they can apparently fix mortal wounds now
He'd set the record straight

>>53124628
Because only the Watchers in the Dark know that his body is in the rock. Not even fucking Azrael is aware of it.

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I got bored so I created this list, I'm sorry. This is meant to be a battle company of a Black Templar crusade and i tried to get it a fluffy as possible.

This is from last Reddit infested thread.

>>53124639
Lion's re-awakening would surely spooks them good.

>>53124657
No one in their right mind would play a 3500pt game ever period.

>>53124399
Instant Death is literally not a thing in the first place.

>>53124639
What, where did they say that? I mean, the interrogator chaplains know where they hold the traitor's body (whose name I forget because I last read the Dark Angels fluff in the 6th edition codex) so surely they would know someone dragged the Lion's body down to a stasis chamber too?

So, Cheetahfag, what do you even play? I've always been curious. All signs point towards Chaos, so is there any specific legion you like?

>>53124657
>As fluffy as possible
>No Land Raider Crusaders full of Space Marines
0/10

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Shark marines are gay as fuck.
DA are renegades.
That's that.

>>53124672
No, only Azrael knows that Luther's body is in the Rock.

Also check page 32 of the 7th ed Dark Angels codex under the section titled The Rock. Final paragraph.

>>53124675
He plays World Eaters.

>>53124683
(you)

>>53124699
Oh. So what the zog is supposed to be with the terrible secrets that the inner circle of the chapter is privy to? "We blew our home planet to shit because some of our number committed heresy?"
That's a weak-ass secret.

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>Silence girls are taller than spess mereens
???????
I thought sisters were physically normal humies, fucking space manlets

>>53124672
The Dank Angels found Luther mumbling about lion coming back and be cool with him they threw him in a stasis field and is being interrogated, the watchers teleport and grabbed the body of of lion and are healing them (i think) at the core of the Rock.

>>53124713
The secret is that half of their chapter turned traitor, and that if the inquisition were to discover this they'd be labelled excommunicate traitoris.

Also the destruction of Caliban was because of the Ouroboros incident, not because of the orbital bombardment.

>>53124261
hey, roboute was a cool guy before Matt Ward, BL and nu-GW got to him.

>that round table scene in Imperium Secundus
>"21, You still haven't given up on them? Not even Lorgar?"
almost teared me up how good a brother Bobby G was

>>53124715
Blame the weird squat pose all Space Marines are in.

>>53124664
I do sometimes with some of the other guys/girl that have been collecting for years. Usually to try those over the top formations before playing a true apocalypse game. Otherwise I'd never get to run my 60 Death Company dudes and 25 Sang Guard.

>>53124728
>Ouroboros Incident
???
Last I read it was because they bombed their home to shit.
>>53124715
GW can't into scale
Each new model is taller than the next, if they remade the Ork Boyz box now they'd be as large as nobz.

>>53124747
>bangles
>"right mind"

Why is the Phalanx so much better than the Rock?

>>53124751
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Caliban#Destruction
>A swirling vortex of warp power was created around Caliban and it eventually broke apart, being pulled into the warp. Only an asteroid with the ruins of the Fortress Monastery remained

Later on it is revealed that the warp storm was caused by a daemonic artifact capable of opening time vortexes, and the closing of it to prevent Typhus from getting through was what caused the destruction of Caliban.

I saw someone post some nids painted using gundam markers, I'm a tau player, and while I'd be painting in kel'shan sept colours, are gundam markers actually any good for 40k models? Are the panel lining markers any good for the panel lines in battlesuits? Should I post this in WIP general?

>>53124699
Holy fuck lmao that explains everything. I've only met one or two bearable WE players, and the rest were shitty idiots.

>>53124544
Shadow War Armageddon is a rushed out game with rules copied from Necromunda which is in turn derived from 2nd ed 40k. (Expect actual Necromunda within a year or two)

Note this is still a fun game and I have enjoyed it immensely but the rulebook could use some tweaks like an index.

40k is a reset of the bloated mess that is 40k, instead of just copy pasting 2nd ed, they have combined AoS rules with influences from older games like 2nd ed.

The confusion is there because Shadow War is a bizarre release possibly for no other reason than ego. So the 2nd ed rules for Shadow War are often similar but different to 8th and yo are are left wondering why the games are not using same stats when there 1 or 2 bits different.

>>53124827
>The confusion is there because Shadow War is a bizarre release possibly for no other reason than ego.

What the fuck are you talking about, holy shit. Could you be any more pretentious?

>>53124818
I can't imagine anyone outside of 30k playing world eaters and not being a massive, massive faggot.

>>53124864
Maybe if they were playing a massive army of all 4 cult legions it'd be understandable. But pure WE? You're a nigger.

>>53123891
Imperial Fists of course

>>53124868
I've never seen it done on the table. My buddy gave me some of him and his brother's models from when they were like 12 that were in WE colour scheme. I can only conclude that only faggots, niggers and kids play Khorne.

>>53123891
>Imperial Fists
>Dark Angels
>Blood Angels
>Ultramarines (more loyal to Guilliman tbqh famalam)
>Salamanders (more loyal to humanity as a whole)
>Raven Guard
>White Scars
>Iron Hands
>Space Wolves

>>53124522
Different anon here, but imagine, if bolters were ap -1, you're reducing power armour to 4+ and terminators to 3+, bolter spam would be the most efficient MEQ killer for the points, there'd be very little need for plasma if you can save the points an spam bolters

>>53124877
The only time I've played against WE was some guy who was playing both WE and DG. He also happened to be incredibly boring to play against and probably had some sort of mental blockage that made him slow as shit and forgettable as shit.

Any examples of IF and Salamanders teaming up? I love both chapters and can't decide on one.

>>53124904
Blood Angels are easily number one of the original nine, and as much as I hate them, Space Wolves really ought to be top 3

>>53124877
>>53124868
>>53124864
I've got a friend who plays world eater unironically. He really likes khorne and is an alt right "memelord". He also does acid, smokes weed and is terrible at 40k. I used his army once and did better (note I am a tau/IG player) than he did against a deldar player than he's ever done though I still lost (by 1 point)

>>53124683
Kek

>>53124912
>tfw kinda want to play Space Marines but the Legion-era marines were just so much more tacticool than 40k marines and now numarines are coming out to shit all over the faction

>>53124919
Oh boy he's one of those /r/t_d tards isn't he

Fuck I hate those flaming idiots.

>>53124929
>/r/t_d
what is this?
The only reddit I've ever been on is r/yoyhammer for glorious recasts

>>53124933
/r/the_donald
Even as someone who actively browses /pol/ these guys are fucking obnoxious. They're the retarded little brother who tries to ape his much more successful older brother all while being a fucking cancer.

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>>53124943
I've never been on /pol/, after what I've seen on them in 40kg it seems like a chromosome dump.
Ah, he quite enjoys r/the_donald though he also peruses /pol/ on both four and eight chan
why does it consider this post spam?
<- pick not really related

>>53124979
8-chan without the dash is considered spam on 4chan.

And yeah, he's one of those civnat /r/t_d fags. Fucking cancer.

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>>53124059

>>let's buff what people don't spam on their lists
>>the "new" GW

MFW people still fall for this meme.

>>53124059
>Did someone say fire?! Hellhounds are one of the most iconic units of the Guard, yet sadly they haven't been as iconically present in people's armies for a while now! Heretics, mutants and xenos beware; the Hounds of Hell are coming for you!
COULD THIS BE BECAUSE THOSE FUCKING IDIOTS MADE IT WEBSTORE EXCLUSIVE

Fuck now I want to build up my Space Marine army again even though I know everything will be invalidated when the new marines come out. Fuck. Fucking fuck.

>>53125048
more like
>lets try and balence things out so people can play what they want without gimpgn themseves

>>53123891
All the chapters of the first founding are fanatically loyal in some way.

Space Wolves are probably the least loyal. They have clashed repeatedly with other imperial factions, ignore the codex, don't give a fuck about the inquisition, harbour mutants among their ranks, use chaos weapons, use unsanctioned psykers, worship gods outside the imperial cult and have no chaplains.

Dark Angels are extremely anti-chaos and really upset that a few of their number turned to chaos even though literally every legion had that happen. On the other hand, they are so obsessed with this anti-chaos shit that they ignore what the rest of the imperium needs and sometimes even kill other imperials. Also, close ties to their successors, bypassing the spirit of splitting into chapters.

Blood Angels hide mutations in their gene-seed from the rest of the imperium, are friendly towards xenos sometimes, maintain close ties to successors like the dark angels, possibly including chaos marines (knight of blood).

Ultramarines also do that close ties to their successors a bit and maintain a personal mini-empire which is against the spirit of the split into chapters.

Everyone else is basically as loyal as you get.

In terms of strength, the ones who haven't been involved in the plot recently are probably doing best. Blood Angels, Ultramarines, Dark Angels and Space Wolves have all suffered major losses from chaos and tyranids. Ultramarines and DA were probably the strongest up until that happened and didn't take massive casualties so are probably still on a par with most other 1st founding chapters. Blood Angels are noted as sustaining heavy losses from tyranids and have always struggled to keep up, so they are among the weakest. SW started off as probably the strongest, but have been reduced to probably the weakest after the WoM and FoC books.

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>>53123916
>tfw people claim this is a "loyalist"

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>finally get that itch to get into 40k tt
>want to make a nice custom night lord army
>all the cool looking models are behind a stupidly expensive forgeworld
>all the cheaper gw models are redundant since i might as well buy em used off ebay
>generic army defeats purpose of making my own cool dudes

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What is the least seen unit you've seen for your army?
I play tau and D-99 so I'll give one each
For tau I've never ever seen sniper drones, I mean they have no formations, they're shitecast and compared to other units they don't do that much
For d-99 as I'm the only d-99 in south sydney (to my knowledge) it's everything I don't use which is drop sentinels and tauroses (both types)

>>53125096
>not knowing of glorious china

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>>53125104
>what is r/yoyhammer

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>>53125104
Tell me your Secret.

>>53124059
Maybe if they actually give us some hint of info like...
>The Leman Russ is normally as slow as you'd expect, but the Punisher varient is now shockingly fast.
or
>Orders are still a thing, and now you see more bonuses like move through cover or twin-linking
or
>Bullgryns are now cheaper and have a very high leadership letting them hold their own against terminators in close combat for a while.


That would be useful information. Or at least a taste of something like useful information.

>>53124599
even as a dafag this is top kek

>>53125104
Id buy cheap knock-offs in a second, but are they impossible to tell apart from originals?

>>53125118
i'm hoping separate rules for different regiments will be confirmed but i doubt there's a possibility of that until we get our own codex

>>53125147
Depends on the recaster, and the specific cast. Some of them are almost impossible to tell apart from GW/FW originals, especially when painted, and particularly if they're newer sculpts (usually since they're the ones that benefit most as the recasters develop their techniques). Best to look at some reviews first, if you can.

>>53125070
Tell me about it, I have an army just waiting to be built but I am worried about weapon loadouts and stuff so I am completely demotivated to do anything with them

>>53124860
Specialist games is redoing Necromunda and will release in next year or two

The main studio decided to release Shadow War and beat actual Necromunda to the gate.

The possible reasons I believed were
Ego
Money

The reason I felt it was ego is because the release could of been done so much better money wise.

Rulebook should of been ready and standalone.

SWA should be supported for in GW stores in big events it would be perfect imo, however they had no plans for such events as of 2 weeks ago.

The game is only just out for most people but the hype is now a week into 8th.

I love what we have heard for 8th will be and I do enjoy Shadow War I just wish the timing wasn't so off. If Shadow War released 6 months ago I would have a much easier time with a campaign at my local club, now a lot of people are prepping for 8th or trying to get as many games in of 7th with a new army they bought before the announcement.

Now money could still be the factor, GW can get people to buy the same product twice, once in the form of Shadow War Armageddon and once in the form of Necromunda 6 months to a year later.

You are right in that calling it all ego is pretentious I let my feeling for certain design processes get the best of me (stories from past playtesters or what many here will call Tyranid whiner fags)

>>53125187
I have no problem building my IG or SoB or Orks since I think fuck-all's going to happen with them, but we know for sure that Space Marines are changing. Fug.

>>53125095
Thats it, my champion is going to get some bits from the furries, that shit is just too damn good looking

>>53125111
What mini is that?

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>>53125111
>>53125179
Thanks, taking a gander now. Shame its so hush hush, I was ignorantly hoping there would be a nice flashy website with the stuff.

>>53125267
>too intelligent for a brain

>>53125265
Flash Gitz Kaptin.

>>53125195
It could also be that they wanted to promote their new industrial terrain and weren't expecting people to get excited over shadow war with 8th just around the corner.

>>53125206
Looks like you'll also be harvesting some parts from CSM kits. You know, since he's clearly corrupted.

>>53125298
Yes very true, box set was a great way of promoting the terrain. I am not one who believes the box set was a failure.

For me it was a good way of advertising and mitigating risk. Old school Necromunda players want the rules, 40k players want the terrain, people like myself want to try out something other than 7th, and anyone on the fence can be influenced by those who got it.

As I say I feel Shadow War is good but a few tweaks and it could be great.

Luckily the new GW line is better communication and support hence the errata and FaQ that cleared up many of the problems.

So are the (((Realm of Battle))) terrain boards and the other Citadel scenery any good or should I make my own/look elsewhere?

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>thinking about getting into 40k tabletop
>either space marines or their chaos counterpart
>start looking into units
>"tacticals are always good, and chaos equivalent can be good with some legion rules"
>alright cool
>I'll take as much plasma as I can on my first squad, that will be their focus
>a lot of the box art and promo material shows marine characters with power fist and plasma pistol, so I'll take that
>turns out this loadout is turbo shit, you should only take a combi-plasma or nothing on squad leaders

well that's gay. fist and pistol looks way better. but 8th edition is almost here, so is there a chance 8e will make plasma/fist sergeants actually worth taking? I want to do this but I feel like it's a bad idea to gimp my army as a new player because I will end up always losing and therefore not having a "real 40k" experience.

>>53125195
Shadow war has completely swamped my store because nobody wants to buy models with the upcoming rebalance and 7e is apparently getting too old for them.

I'm the exception, of course. Guardsmen will always be useful, and the same models work as veterans, infantry, command squads or conscripts. I fear no change!

>>53125413
Plasma pistols are terribly overcosted, Power Fists are pretty good if you can get into close combat with something and not die instantly.

>>53125413
Yeah there's a good chance the hidden power fist might come back because in 8e a unit's controller chooses how damage is allocated.

>>53125413
8th seems to be all about balance but we'll see soon enough, also you may want to consider using horus heresy sets so you can swap between the factions with minor issues (most units can be fielded as either faction)

>>53125413
You'll be be able to fire pistols in CC so that's something. Putting a load of points onto a relatively cheap model is always risky though.

>>53125408
Anyone? I'm considering getting some Citadel terrain for home use.

>>53125413
Plasma pistol and fist on sergeant won't lose you a game ever, period. However, they mean that you paid 40 points for subpar equipment. Said points can add up quikly, when you have say four overupgraded squads used points could buy you a predator.

>>53125466
They're fucking expensive for what they are. For that amount of money I'd expect them to come painted.

>>53125437
will the marine sergeant die instantly against most units?

>>53125439
not really sure what this means but I think I might just go ahead and model it with the fist and hope for the best then.

>>53125451
that's a good idea but eh, I don't really like how those marines look, and if I play chaos I want to go full heretic, with baroque bling everywhere that is obviously not loyalist. and I do like the look of the loyalist marine box, whatever mark of armor that is, better than the horus heresy armor marks.

also does anybody know how this base is done and what paint is used to color the rim? and what is the grass stuff specifically what to buy? >>53125413

>>53125498
That was for the Realm of Battle boards. Citadel Scenery is okay.
>>53125502
Well, I the sergeant strikes last with the powerfist, so he could get killed by an overwhelming number of attacks on the squad or get tied up in a challenge against a superior opponent, where he might get one attack through that gets deflected by an invulnerable save, and then he gets killed, or you don't take the challenge and his attacks are wasted.

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>>53124294
Is Guilliman submissive to Yvraine?

>>53125424
Have had about 8 people involved so far in playing it so not to bad just seems to be like herding cats getting even a simple by the book campaign running (not a store a local club playing out of a community centre)

The GW not doing events comment is that they had no plans to run things like their school leagues or intro games with it like they do with their big 2 systems 40k and 8th edition the players have been all over it (or were 2 weeks ago now I can't get a reply :) )

>>53124156
acolytes = mutants
abarents = mutant ogryn

>>53125533
No. Her penis is not substantial enough. It barely bridges the cleft of his Astartes buttocks, let alone penetrate and batter his double prostate.

So he just sniffs her toes, and licks her cat's nether regions.

>and you thought leman was going a bit far with the icedog business.

>>53125722
get outs from here's and take those terrible dubs with you

>>53124904
>>53125088
Space Wolves are arguably the least loyal... toward the current Imperium organization

They are however, in my opinion, at least in the top three as far as loyalty to the Emperor and the Imperium as an institution/concept goes.
They may fight against the Inquisition or other chapters, but they would never think of leaving the Imperium (they would rather talk about "purging" a sick portion of it) or fight something they could consider a direct order from the Emperor

Do you think anyone would care if I used heavily converted guardsmen as space marine scouts?

>>53125890
Yeah, you'd be permabanned from /40kg/ and you will never ever get to play 40k again.

>>53125890
No, but you'd have a tough time explaining it fluff-wise.

>>53125896
OH NO. lol was more worried about peoples reactions to such things, trying to avoid being "that guy"
>>53125907
Running a Fallen army, lack of space marine trainees but an abundance of cultists/followers. Should hold up fluffwise right?

>>53125896
this

>>53125939
You're either baiting or don't know anything about Fallen lore or Space Marine lore in general at all.

>>53125890
it depends on how heavily we are talking

proportion wise they would fit considering guardsmen are just too bug for what they represent

>>53123919
There's nothing gay about taking heretics into a deep dark dungeon after a good days ride on the bike.

>>53124234
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Battle_of_Gate_Forty-Two

>>53125147
I've only gotten 1 batch so far. 1 tactical squad of marines($14.00), 1 dreadnought ($5.00) and one terminator captain ($6)

All impossible to tell the difference.

>>53125969
Cypher and his Fallen have been known to rally PDFs for good or otherwise and they lack the means to make new space marines so is it really that far a stretch to assume they'd keep some guardsmen/PDF around for recon? (Especially with the amount of secrecy involved with The Fallen)
>>53125975
Likely only using the torso and legs from the original guardsman kit (with added bits of course) and the rest being all 3rd party or sculpted

>>53126111
You can use them as allied Guardsmen but using them as scouts would be lore breaking and stupid.

>>53126098
edit;
also consider getting extremely popular models, they are unlikely to fuck up basic marines, far more likely nurglings or something old

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Does anyone have a scan of that new Carcharodons book?

It's $57 aud.....

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First for greatest primarch

>>53126143
Tho be careful of some older SM parts.

I ordered a couple of tank upgrade sprus.

While the Hunter/Stalkers were on point. The Whirlwinds were trash. And the Predators were mediocre, but salvageable.

>>53126155
What an ugly AIDs ridden faggot

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>>53126184
>Only Primarch who's ever been with a female
Mad, loyalist?

>>53126206
No, his cheekbones in that image just make him look like he has AIDS. And ugly.

Guys
We have a heretic among us and not just any hereitc, but a super duper megafaggot heretic, but I don't know who it is.
Help me root him out.

>>53124248
As someone who paints Nurgle daemons I agree. Firstly, it's too glossy, secondly, the skin is too solid and flat. Not to mention the paint looks thick.

>>53126206
Are you implying Horus fuck up the Imperium because he couldn't get his dick wet?

>>53126222
It's the Tau player isn't it?

>>53124278
I thought the implication was that the Emperor psychically communicated how to improve the Astartes to Guilliman over the course of a day.

>>53126239
No, Cawl has been building the Numarines for the last 10,000 years.

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>>53126206
That is not Guilliman, Fulgrim was only buttfucked by Ferrus, Horus and Slaanesh.

>>53126222
It's probably just carnac

>>53126250
>helmet isn't covered in 100 different types of symbol paint and trinkets that totally don't get in the way during battle
0/10 that's not sicarius

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>>53126216
Fulgrim is beautiful!

>>53126230
I wouldnt be shocked if losing his virginity and realizing what earthly pleasures he had been denied up to that point made him turn traitor.

>>53126250
>Fulgrim was only buttfucked by Ferrus
No he tried and Ferrus got so mad he was like, "wtfgay" and tried to kill Fulgrim. Its really sad how Ferrus was a giant homophobe and couldnt get into incest.

Also Fulgrim and Slaanesh switch, they both like to be the girl sometimes.

>>53126249
That just raises more questions than it answers...

More like give us a new abaddon and havoc models

Anyone who cant tell that numarines are bigger are literally blind. Anyone who beleives numarines are going to be some kind of new unit are delusional. You think GW would make the basis of the starter set a new unit and not the standard? Delusion I tell you. Prepare to update your armies boys, and I hope you arent a poorfag. That is all.

>>53126206
If I remember it right he really did fucked by his sons they use pearl of anguish

>>53126323
Or
>A new Chaos Space Marine base kit
>Havoc Marine kit which is New CSM kit + 2 of each Heavy Weapon extra sprue.

>>53126325
>Implying GW has the balls to invalidate half of their player's armies just to shill new models

>>53126325
You're acting like half of my models aren't older models than the ones that are currently sold

>>53126354
They axed entire games in the past.

GW level of retardation and bad writing has no limits

>>53126370
If you don't see the difference between armies that barely sold any models and their biggest sellers by far, you should probably stop posting

>>53126354
>you have any say, when your entire hobby is controlled by a single corporation

>>53125502
>not really sure what this means but I think I might just go ahead and model it with the fist and hope for the best then.
It means now you can assign damage to the power fist sarge last, "hiding" the power fist in the squad and keeping it safe, whereas before the sarge was forced to fight in challenges and was easy to kill before he could swing.

>>53126153
https://img.fireden.net/tg/image/1484/87/1484876286767.pdf

>>53126409
When did I say that? It's just not a smart business move to be the EA of the Wargaming Industry.

>>53124147
No, that's a meme that caught on to people repeating it over and over.

>>53126399
Anon WHF was their biggest seller and they fucking killed it by constant bad rules, no proper models, etc, etc.

You must be very young to not see how random and anti-consumer GW can be.

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>>53126364
>when his average army height isnt truescale

>>53124778

You know. I recalled having one and used it on a pathfinder. It worked quite nicely for a super easy black line.

>>53126434
And yet, here we are.

>>53126354
>implying they'd be invalidated. And not more. THESE ARE WHAT NEW MARINES WILL LOOK LIKE, UPGRADE IF YOU WISH.

>>53126434
EA is extremely successful, so how is it a bad idea again?

>>53126524
Obviously it's beneficial for EA. It's their consumers who get the short end of the stick.

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>>53126325
What are guillimarines gonna do when Fulgrim kills girlyman again?
How are normal asartes going to react to guillimarines? Would they accept their new superiors, or reject and fight against them in hatred of their superiority?
Really I still don't believe the guillimarine rumors, Im pretty sure Guillimans getting taken out of the setting by Fulgrim following Abbadons death.

>>53125159
I'm hoping for that pretty much across the board.
Chapter, legion, regiment, craftworld, clan, hive fleet, kabal, etc having a specific set of bonuses would all be nice, and builds some fluff into the crunch.

>>53126111
I'm planning a similar kind of deal, was planning on using Chaos rules and have the followers just be cultists (In my fluff "The New Order of Caliban" is causing all kinds of grief on a Knight world by inducting locals and teaching them small unit tactics and arms manufacture to deal with bandits and beasties much to the chagrin of the Knightly houses)

Thinking of which, Does anyone have advice on where to get cheap cultists? Current plan is to use
These bodies:
http://www.ozdestro.com/blog/frostgrave-soldiers-plastic-boxed-set-review
With these heads:
http://eccentricminiatures.com/retems0002.html
and these auto pistols
https://www.zinge.co.uk/collections/armoury/products/uzi-9mm-x-5-sprue-human-scale

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>>53126559
You mean how Bile's abominations will react to Guilly killing Fulgrim and Bile?

>>53124278
The Emperor didn't even make the Primarchs on his own, you stupid asshole. No shit someone could improve the formula

>>53126474
>tfw you've cut apart and repinned the legs of all your marines already
Im curious to see how my guys look next to guillimarines but all the leaked images Ive seen make me lean more on old SM models desu. Assuming Guillimarines are going to be the same size as stormcasts, I think thats too big. Space marines should be 8ft where as stormcast are like 10ft, I really do think normal marines are scaled fine the issue is just that they're all squatting.

It's gonna really destroy my suspense of disbelief when ten sigmarines pop out of a rhino.

>>53126460
Having bad rules is a different problem.
They didn't kill WHF sells-wise because they wanted to, they just wrote bad rules that they thought would have worked
Then the sells were reduced and only at that point they decided to actually kill Bretonnia and Tomb Kings

So the comparison between those two and the one kit that most likely sells better than entire other armies is improper to say the least

If they are actually newer kits for the tactical marines they are going to be like >>53126509 said

>>53126578
We already knows who wins in Fulgrim vs. Guilliman, and now Fulgrim has eight thousand years more experience. Any time Fulgrim has fought another primarch the only reason the fight didnt end immediately is because Fulgrim loves his brothers too much to kill them outright.

Really, Guilliman doesnt stand a chance.

>>53126604
They're soldiers, they can take it. Besides, maybe they also had turtle DNA engineered into them so they can retract their heads and limbs into their bodies for more efficient transport.

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>>53126559
What rumors? Numarines are all but confirmed. That height. That scale. Prepare your wallets consumers.

>>53126460

As far as I've known, 40k has always been their biggest seller for decades.

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>>53126626
Emperor's Sword that killed Horus > gay daemon blades
Ynnead's love > Slaanesh's carnal desire
Also Fulgrim did jack shit for millennia and never appeared after Bob banished him until now.

>>53126325
They're going to half way between a marine and a custode and woefully outclass normal marines, that way they'll still invalidate old marines while gw still gets to say "nu uh still valid they both have rules"
>am 85% fine with this

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>>53126474
>When seeing a figure a few centimeters smaller than it should be gives you an aneurysm

>>53126671
Ynnead is Slaanesh you moron.
Its gonna be really funny when the way they bring in Fulgrim is that croneworld witch summons him, sacrifices the Ynnari to Slaanesh, and then helps Fulgrim kill Guilliman.

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>>53126701
I just got this pack the other day, they popped up as an add and I was immediately like, "OH MY GOD, CRONEWORLD ELDAR!" Im gonna use them as Heralds of Slaanesh.

>>53126701
>forced meme is forced

>>53126604
Size disparity between infantry and tanks is old. That brief window when the new plastic marines were out and all we had was the original and tiny white plastic rhino were rough.

All that'll really bother me is seeing newmarines mixed in with marines. Fucked up infantry scales in the same army never, ever looks good.

>>53125114
>>53125147
In order to buy from the china man, one must know how to find, the china man. I can confirm that a caster whos name starts with a C is probably the best re-caster out there, i have a titan from him, could not even tell the difference from an original.

THat said, the number one rule for re-casters, you dont share their contact info ever. I can tell you the door exists, but you have to find it and open it. If you cant do either of that, then you cant buy china man stuff.

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>>53124138
Despite the fact that this is bait, I'm still going to illuminate all the things wrong with it for people who are just joining us and have no idea what the rules in 8th are:

>Brings a Titan formation to a "narrative" game
Formations no longer exist, and narrative games don't mean "unbalanced games where you can do whatever you want", that's Open games

>Opponent sends fabious bile into combat with them
>he hits first due to assaulting
>hits
>wounds on 6+ (because everything can do that in 8th
We don't know everything Wounds on a 6+, it could be like SWA where you need to roll a 6 and then the 6's need a second roll of 4+ or more to stick.

>His weapon is Instant Death
No longer a thing, weapons can deal multiple Wounds per hit or even Mortal Wounds which ignore saves and don't need to roll to Wound, but you'll never be removing a 10+ Wounds model in one hit with anything.

>Remove other 2 Titans after failing battle shock
Not even remotely how battleshock works. Titans aren't going to be squadroned together and even if they were they're not going to have a Leadership lower than 7.

>>53126166
If you got them from Z thats your problem, order vehicles, get terrain from him. He is only good if you want really big stuff and are ok with doing the extra work.

>>53126721
>Avatar of Ynead has same stats as a Keeper of Secrets
>Ynead is a warp entity that feeds on eldar souls
>Wherever the Ynnari go chaos magically pops up for some reason
>The Avatar of Ynnead looks exactly like what chaos eldar would look like and even has a gigantic slaaneshi horn jutting out of its head and is wearing a purple jumpsuit
>Slaaneshi Demons known to assume different identities to infiltrate Eldar

Nawh you're right def a meme.

I'm calling it right now, CORVUS CORAX IS COMING BACK, CYPHER IS GONNA END UP A GOOD GUY GIVING BACK THE LION'S BLADE AND THE LION RETURNS.


Just watch

>>53126661
False. WHF during 6th edition was like 60%
Then the fuckers try to milk it so hard that it die

>>53126750
>>53126721
(non)twist: GW is scrapping slaanesh because it's not family friendly enough for New Games Workshop. hail ynnead.

will probably just sell my emperor's children if they do this

>>53126750
>slaanesh would totally be able to keep a lid on the whole god of depravity thing for literally any time at all
yeah sure

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Is there any mega repository with audiobooks and audiodramas? I only see a one or two in the first mega link in OP

>>53126729
All the rumors say old marines arent going anywhere, so I dont expect MkIX armor to become an entire army thing for most people.
Still skeptical about the whole concept though, desu.

>>53126774
Hmm, I can totally see Slaanesh getting killed off and Ynead taking nir place.

>>53126774
They would have done it already, I think they're going to have the AoS storyline find Slaanesh at the same time Fulgrim comes back to 40k. Well probably get a new model line then, too. We've had Slaanesh called out several times in the 8th ed rumors already (Noise Marines confirmed to ignore cover, Slaanesh Demons confirmed to still have some tricks to go first in combat), so I dont see Slaanesh going anywhere. Quite the contrary I think the twist will be

Twist: GW is leading us on to think they're gonna scrap Slaanesh before doing a huge release to catch us offguard and surprise us.

Infantry stuff
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/08/17794gw-homepage-post-4/

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/08/17794gw-homepage-post-4/

>>53126781
We've seen Slaaneshi demons do it several times in the fluff to infiltrate craftworlds and eldar groups, Tzeentch demons do it too.

Huh, funny, wasn't it Magnus and Tzeentch that attacked the Ynnari after the Slaaneshi assault on Biel-tan?
I think trusting coincidences when Tzeentch is afoot is rather foolish.

>>53126827
"Twist: GW is leading us on to think they're gonna scrap Slaanesh before doing a huge release to catch us offguard and surprise us." says increasingly nervous man after no new Slaanesh units have been released for the seventh time in a row.

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>>53126838
I like this new to wound table. Only thing I'm not sure of is the 6+ cap.

>models in a squad can fire at different targets
I think this has already been shown, but I'm very happy they're finally bringing it back.

>>53126827
>(Noise Marines confirmed to ignore cover, Slaanesh Demons confirmed to still have some tricks to go first in combat)
So what? Slaanesh is still playable in AoS

>>53126673
Numarines will be:
>Bigger
>Stronger
>Faster
>Female
>Traitors

>>53126838
>There is stuff you just can’t do with very well with vehicles, bikes and walkers, like hold ruins, use cover effectively and swarm the battlefield in numbers to claim every objective.
So infantry gets either:
A. infantry-only obsec
B. only infantry can capture objectives

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>>53126855
Welcome!
No, random special character in 2 decades is not a proper release. A proper one would be the one GSC, Skitarii, CM or DE got.

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>>53126474
>the whole tyranid range is perfectly scaled both externally and internally
>tyrannocyte sac can realistically hold a monstrous creature
>the average amount of gaunts spawned by a tervigon is in line with the amount and size of sacs on it

>>53126865
OH BABY

>>53123859
>>53123902
>>ReddiT rEDDIt reddit REDDIT AAAA HA HA HA HAAAA
The fuck is wrong with you people? Why TF is this mental illness spreading?

>>53126880
Sounds like infantry might be the only ones who get to buff their saves with cover.

>>53126899
plz be the case

>>53126899
Good point.

>>53126858
So a S2 model can theorically destroy a Titan.

Are people still pretending this is not AoS second edition?

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A friend of mine invited me a "friendly" tournament with 1200 cap, I run ork for fun now, but he told me to do a "tournament list"

1198/1200

HQ

Warboss (w/ warbike, pk, bosspole, lucky stikk) [140pts]
Paiboy (w/ warbike) [75pts]

Elites

Meganobz x3 (w/ BWagon, ram, killakannon, 3x big shoota) [285pts]
Tankbustas x14 (w/ boss, bosspole) [197pts]

Troops

Grot x10 [35 pts]
Grot x10 [35 pts]

Fast Attack

Warbikes x6 (w/ boss, pk) [143 pts]

Heavy Support

BWagon (ram, rokkit) [120pts]
Lootas x12 [168pts]

I don't know the actual meta, just my friend, a templar/tyranid into fluff, but also capable of solid lists and another "camping IG who measure your moves 3 turns earlier"

I feel like this list has nothing to do with my flffy 60+ foot mob, but I also want to give my opponent a challenge without being a complete dick, what do you think?

>>53126899
They said that about some cover in a previous article. I think the example was craters.

>>53126907
Sure, in the same way you can theoretically get laid.

>>53126916
And here we are son.

>>53126855
They stopped stocking Slaaneshi minis in stores and what not, and each Chaos God has gotten a new release with Nurgles next.

Either Slaanesh will get a release following with Fulgrim returning to 40k as the next primarch after Mortarion, or Ynead kills and usurps her. But lets be real, GS2 hinted at Fulgrim and Slaanesh is the foundation of all the main 40k factions save orks.

Post the pic about nurgle charm roll

>>53126838
Woohoo! Split-fire!

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>>53123891
Id say strongest-weakest
Imperial fists
Salamanders
Blood angels
Ultra marines
Dark Angels
Raven Guard
Space Wolves
White scars
Iron hands

T. Dark Angels player

>>53126912
>In the new Warhammer 40,000, cover is a bonus to your armour save. Critically, this ability often only applies to certain types of unit. For example, only Infantry gain the bonus of cover from a crater.
You remembered right. Looks like non-infantry models still can gain a cover save though by the way it's worded.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/04/30/new-40k-shooting-phase-apr30gw-homepage-post-4/

>>53126867
Slaanesh is still in AoS. Saying she aint is a meme, she ate all of the elves following the end times and they had to be cut out of his stomach. The progressive storylines first arc for Chaos has been finding the Dark Prince.

>>53126884
That pic makes me feel... odd things.

>>53126909
Orks don't exist in the competitive meta. Your best bet is probably to take one warboss and the rest boyz.

>>53126954
So Crisis Suits no longer need to purchase Target Lock, assuming they're still called infantry.

>>53126907
>Are people still pretending this is not AoS second edition?
no

>>53126865
Now I'm curious if it's broken by weapon types or model basis

>In their example they list all bolters firing at the Gaunts and the Flamer shooting at a Lictor, but can the Flamer + 1 Bolter shoot at the Lictor?

>Also for big models with multiple guns, can each weapon fire at a different target?

>>53126963
Presumably non-infantry will get cover from some things (parking behind a wall), but not from small stuff you'd actually need to duck behind.

>>53126992
All I can hope is that Xbox Huge models are nerfed to the ground.

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>>53126884
>The sight of that thing being birthed out of the bottom of that pod
Even the way the interior looks is making me sick. Ill never be able to look at Tyranids again without some revulsion

>>53126838
I like this simplification of that retarded strength/toughness table a lot.

Also, universal split fire. Beautiful.

>Be Carnifex
>get wounded on 5+ by fukken bolters
>get weaker as you take wounds from fukken bolters
>die

is this the end for the Fexes?

>>53126992
I'm... fine with that, to be honest? The annoying part about crisis suits was the move-shoot-move thing, not the split fire.

Plus, they can't pop a tank with a single fusion blaster anymore, so they'll have to focus fire.

>>53126968
>saying she aint is a meme

Saying she is, is a meme. Can you not read between the lines? It's like a car salesman told you this will be the best car in your life, and you believed it.

>slaanesh is marginalized more and more in the material
>literally "trapped" while another god, which coincidentally is more family friendly and has no tits, hits the stage
>no new slaanesh miniatures in forever while all others are getting releases
>whaddaya know, now there is a new 40k god that could easily take slaanesh's place

The prognosis for Slaanesh is not looking good at all. I guess we'll finally know when 8th drops in a month or so, I won't be surprised if there are literally no rules for Slaaneshi models. They don't sell them in stores, they don't make new ones, they don't announce anything, so they're not going to make rules for models they don't support. We'll see.

>>53127029
But they are the cutest little thingies, what's wrong with you?

>>53126968
>and they had to be cut out of his stomach.
this never happened

slaanesh has canonically never been seen since the end times

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>>53127038
>and nothing of value was lost

>>53127045
Thy've already confirmed rules for Slaanesh is 8e you moron.

>>53127024
GW seems very aware of how underpriced the Riptide was. I'd expect some combination of nerfing its base stats and having it degrade like we saw the Morkanaut does. Those two should help a lot.

>>53127038
But, at the same time, rocket launchers and lascannon now only wounds you on a 3+ instead of on a 2+

>>53127038
>Implying your T6 still
>Implying you're not going to be T8, 6W, 3+

Come on lad, you ain't even tryin'

>>53126899
Can we not do that? Hull-downing tanks is the only real positioning aspect of vehiclular warfare left. If we lose this we may as well park our battle tanks in the open in the center of the map because lord knows we're not going to let our primary source of heavy weapons fire at bs2.

People were complaining about nerds to Melee but at this point it's safe to say they've kept it equal with shooting. Autocannons no longer 2+ing marines who get a 4+ save at worst in return and can buff that back to 2+ with ruins, for example.

>>53127045
>>53127067
This^. We have been informed that absolutely all currently sold models will get new rules in 8th, which means all current slaanesh stuff will be supported.

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>>53127090
>yfw shortly before 8th drops they have a Last Chance sale for slaanesh models like they did for WHFB

>>53127023
Sensible. As a tanker I want to have hull downing as an option but letting infantry hide better is a logical advantage.

>>53127081
>What is line of sight blocking terrain : the post.

>>53127090
>Models sold
RIP Repressor. Good night sweet prince

Universal split fire is fucking amazing, finally jesus christ.

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>>53126734
>>53126098
Those prices are great but this really sounds like some soup nazi process to get them.

Im surprised there isnt boatloads of models being sold for pennies second hand. GW probably hoards that shit off the market like DeBeers.

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>>53127029
but anon what about the joy of witnessing the miracles of life?

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>>53127045
Slaanesh is the most feminine aspect of 40k, followed by Eldar and Sisters being marginally feminine. But what really sets Slaanesh apart from Eldar and Sisters is the inherent sexuality of it. It seems that an expression of female sexuality really gets under the skin of a certain type of wargamer, its even more funny because theres plenty of male sexuality within Slaanesh as well, but I dont think thats the part that bothers them.

I would guess they are the same kind of players who play space marines and horus heresy where its all manly men all the time being ripped and manly and working out whilst rubbing their hot boltguns together and starting at eachother deeply from across the gym.

>>53126845
>Split Fire
DID SOMEBODY SAY MANDATORY HEAVY WEAPON TEAMS
THE PLATOON LIVES!

>>53127067
they also confirmed rules for tomb kings and bretonnians

>>53127123
Very fucking rare, that's what. There's always a window, always a gap in the bushes, and always a crack in the wall. The only LOS blocking terrain even sold in the GW website is the fortress of redemption and imperial bastion.

>>53127143
No thanks. I had my fair share of that miracle.

The wonders of working in rural schools and having to deal with a birth mid class. Thank god feminist are having slut walks they are helping women so much around the world

>>53127133
>taking shit like lascannons in marine squads is now an alright idea because you can hide the lasmarine in the back, shoot at tanks, and have your bolter dudes in front shoot at guardsmen

wew
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>>53127078
considering Guilliman is T6 i wouldn't bet on that

>>53126760

I'm surprised GW actually published sales figures for that.

>>53126774

> not family friendly enough

So they're just going to ignore everything else that might make parental supervision cringe about the game like much of what the Imperium and Chaos do on a daily basis?

>>53127038
Statistically 20 bolter shots is 1.481 wounds assuming a 3+ save

>>53126907
Let's assume a titan has T:xboxhuge, Sv:2+ and 100 wounds. For a gaurdsman equivalent, you need 7,200 shots to down it. For conscripts, you need 10,800 shots. Now, a full squad of conscripts costs 150 points and can put out 150 shots at most. That means you need 72 squads of conscripts, or 10,800 points (well, actually 16,585 points at minimum when you consider HQ and platoon requirements) to kill a model that's at most 2,000 to 3,000 points.
If somone wants to shoot 10,800 points into my 3000 point unit, then I'm fine with it dying, because they're retards if they do that.

Hmm, will grey knights get nu-marines? Or should I just buy more grey knight models now?

>>53127118
Tbh honest if they do discontinue Slaanesh Ill just start using whatever gods rules are most powerful and appropriate. Im just gonna loathe when people start looking at my army and going, "Wow, why are you such a pervert? Why did you paint these guys pink?"

>>53127173
Considering Dreadnought are T8. I would.

>>53127188
>will grey knights get nu-marines?
no

>>53127188
I wouldn't buy anything until 8e

>>53127064
Uh, yes it did? We have an entire storyline addressing the disappearance of Slaanesh and how Tzeentch betrayed her. Slaanesh was found bloated in a cave and had to be cut open for Elves to rematerialize in AoS.

>>53127198
T8 is the equivalent of AV12 since str8 would have glanced at 4+

tyranids will keep t6 for the most part

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>>53127058
Imagine the fluids and goo that come out when that sporepod opens. Oh god I bet they just seep into everything near it when it opens and that those things are drenched in all sorts of foul smelling fluids and goo as they initially run out. Holy shit Im gonna puke irl.

>>53126838
>Everyone can fire their guns at whatever they want now
What the fuck kind of a mongoloid came up with these rules

>>53127188
I cerntainly hope not. One of the major requirements of being a GK is being a psykers. Having numarines would be like having crippled retards with your GK.

>>53127212
>We have an entire storyline addressing the disappearance of Slaanesh
and in no single part of it we get to actually see slaanesh except getting to know that the elven gods have taken her

the tearing apart of its guts is never described, nor hinted, just hypothesised by fans when we got to know about the above

How tall are space marines?

Master Tigraine was 3m tall in Maledicition
The Lion was described as 3m-ish tall in Descent of Angels

and some are described to be 7-8 feet

>>53127181
>but muh violence

in reality, parents do not give a shit about violence. they will buy their kids video games where you pretend to be an army man who mows down hordes of people with machine guns. they only start caring if the game is hyped as "ultraviolent" by the media, like Postal. it's 100% perception and memes.

they will not buy a game with tits on the cover though. so it makes sense that GW would squat slaanesh, plus, you know, all the other evidence like making new gods in both franchises suddenly take the place of slaanesh, the horned rat and ynnead. and not making any new slaanesh models in forever.

no, no, you're right. it's just a coincidence I'm sure.

>>53127232
Actually, i got a boner from this description.

>>53127029
>just now realizing tyranids are like disgusting cockroaches

I mean, they're bugs that make pools of slime. What did you expect. They're nasty like maggots.

>>53127241
someone who understands how msu can fuck up the game at a meta level and how specialist weapons in generalist squads end up almost universally useless most of the time

>>53127143
Which army do I find the most disgusting. Tyranids or Nurgle Chaos? I really cant pick anymore. Disease, rot, and general uncleanness vs. smelly bloated fluid leaking bugs.

>>53127255
Generally 7-8 meters tall. But a general rule in 40k is the more important or stronger something is, the bigger/taller it is.

>>53127256
That reminded of a school murdering simulator. No problem there. As soon the media notice you can do it while naked or in sexualised outfits it was literally Hitler
Then something else show up and the news die with it and no one care any more.

Kony 2012

>>53127164
Well, that's worrisome.

>>53127241
>Single anti tank weapons no longer able to instantkill vehicles
>Cover adds to armoursave

Generally it's gonna be a real bad idea to split fire in the new edition, outside of shooting anti-tank guns at big stuff and anti-infantry at small stuff.

And you have to roll seperately for each weapon type already, it's not that big of a leap.

>dreadnoughts are wounded on 5's by infantry guns

>>53127248
But we've actually seen Slaanesh, so you've admitted to being full of shit. She does exist, and it has been confirmed he exists. Just like you're full of shit about that being a fan theory, its a fan theory in the same way evolution is a theory.

>>53127305
T8 means they'll be wounded on 6's by pretty much all infantry guns, and get an armour save.

>>53127242
I just dont want my grey knights to be manlets once every other marine player has an army of numarines. I dont wanna be left out :( I already have my regular units on smaller bases as well because they never got updated.

>>53127317

>T8 means they'll be wounded on 6's by pretty much all infantry guns, and get an armour save.

Versus them being immune to all infantry guns before?

>>53127305
Str 3 guns will wound them on 6's atleast.

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>>53127280
Stop bullying mah bugs pls.

>>53127329
>immune
but they've always had AV10 on the back