40k general

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD

my dudes > your dudes

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>>53104044
>Brings a Titan formation to a "narrative" game
>T 20
>W 50
>SV 2+
>each
>Opponent sends fabious bile into combat with them
>he hits first due to assaulting
>hits
>wounds on 6+ (because everything can do that in 8th
>I fail my save
>His weapon is Instant Death
>Remove Titan from the field
>Remove other 2 Titans after failing battle shock

Rev up that 8th edition.

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FEMALE SPACE WOOFS

with fortune cookies

>>53104078
This is not tasty pasta.

It also is not fresh.

Take your simple carbs and shove them.

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Posting this again
What are the odds that regular Chaos Space Marines will get model updates so they don't look like shit anymore? I wanna get into 8th edition as Chaos but I don't wanna buy them ugly squatting fuckers when almost every other model in their range looks good.

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>formations are gone
RIP CSM and KDK.

are there any traitor legion loyalists anymore?

>>53104099
>>53103863

Chaos is will literally never be allowed to win. Ever.

I have a Farseer, a squad of rangers, and a squad of scorpions. I'm looking to have a small stealthy army (~1000 points). What should I get next?

>>53104109
From the original heresy? No, but that's just because it's been 10,000 years, and virtually NOBODY lives that long, barring a rare few Named Character exceptions.

From the Traitor Legions themselves? Possibly, especially Black Legion or Iron Warriors, but they'd be so small in number as to be statistically irrelevant and almost exclusively in the Deathwatch as Blackshields. Even then, the rules for "redeeming" Marines are so strict that it's virtually never done, and their origins are kept so secret that learning of their history will often get them killed by their comrades.

TL;DR Possibly yes, but functionally no.

>>53104140
>getting anything before 8e rules are out
Madness.

>>53104140
Shadow spectres have that blur thing going for them, but they're fucking expensive.

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WIP TIME BOYS

What are you anons working on?


Started my 2 Reaver squads after finishing the Raider yesterday. Doing the first of 4 highlight layers while the pilots renact this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XspDkqEtWFE

>>53104119
No one will ever win. If any one faction besides maybe the Tau "wins", the setting is over.

>>53104174
I bought em before 5th was out m8.

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>>53104044
>that image
kek

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>>53104219
If Tau win the setting will be over too because no one will want to play a game in a universe where those gay communist weeaboos win.

>>53104119
Nobody but autists care about their faction "winning". Ever.

>>53104099
I just want new models for my Cadians.

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Trying to decide on an HQ for this list, and much larger versions of it later on. I'd like to take a Techmarine to fix up the Razorbacks as needed, plus he can support the Knight that will be included in higher point games, or I could bring a Librarian, that's probably the better choice but I don't know how to build them well.

>>53104078
Despite the fact that this is bait, I'm still going to illuminate all the things wrong with it for people who are just joining us and have no idea what the rules in 8th are:

>Brings a Titan formation to a "narrative" game
Formations no longer exist, and narrative games don't mean "unbalanced games where you can do whatever you want", that's Open games

>Opponent sends fabious bile into combat with them
>he hits first due to assaulting
>hits
>wounds on 6+ (because everything can do that in 8th
We don't know everything Wounds on a 6+, it could be like SWA where you need to roll a 6 and then the 6's need a second roll of 4+ or more to stick.

>His weapon is Instant Death
No longer a thing, weapons can deal multiple Wounds per hit or even Mortal Wounds which ignore saves and don't need to roll to Wound, but you'll never be removing a 10+ Wounds model in one hit with anything.

>Remove other 2 Titans after failing battle shock
Not even remotely how battleshock works. Titans aren't going to be squadroned together and even if they were they're not going to have a Leadership lower than 7.

Hey tg i'm looking for a space marine chapter to get into with 8th edition dropping soon. I was wondering if there were any neat successor chapters you guys know about?

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>>53104099
eventually yes

>>53104317
Check
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Founding

Find one that sounds/looks cool.

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Anyone else hoping for a nice, new, plastic techmarine model in the style of the ironpriest for regular marines this edition? I just can't like the current resin one with the cumbersome looking servo harness.

>>53104413
I'm hoping for a new Warpsmith or a techmarine that I can convert to a warpsmith

>>53104341
That's not a Chaos warrior. That's a Bloodbound Warrior.

Sort of the same but not.

Kinda like T Sons are CSM, but their models aren't actually updated Chaos Space Marines.

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Aside from shit like the obvious Deldar torture dungeon or general warp fuckery, is a more fucked up death possible?

Imagine sitting in camp and hearing a slight whistling noise as an unescapable cloud of monofilament wires descends upon you. Even if you miraculously survive, there is nothing anybody can do to help you. Any movement would cause the wires to constrict. If you're lucky your allies would eventually retake the area and mercy kill you, assuming you don't bleed out first.

Riptide Wing Detachment when?

>>53104424
I don't know why, but I actually like the warpsmith. I would want to convert one from a regular basic techmarine if I was iron warriors too though. They just don't seem mobile and commanding enough to be a warsmith somehow. Too specialized I guess.

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>>53104437
kinda like how super space marines will be space marines but not really space marines. and like how pic related is the new AOS thing that is the new version of the old WHFB thing.

>>53104501
There's an updated version of that model, actually. It's in Silver Tower, and I mean the priest not Stormcast.

>>53104460
You could actually have it drift through and rearrange you.

>>53104525
The point is SC replaced Empire and is the only human faction getting any releases. It will be the same for super space marines, they will be the only space marine chapter moving forward that gets anything. The legacy chapters will have rules but they will never get updated again so that GW can condense its line.

>>53104553
Not unsurprising. You can make umpteen chapters and create your own with standard marines. Can only go one way with Dark Angels, Space Wolves, etc.

>>53104460
Not really dying, but imagine recieving the punishement of being turned into a acro-flagellant.

You forcefully go through extensive physical surgery and mental reconditioning untill you're turned into a mindless killing machine. All while you're fully awake and aware, without any form of painkillers.

>>53104044
Never played 40k before. Intrigued by what may come from 8th edition. I want to make an Astra Militarum force. I like Commissar models. Are those of any use with tanks or should I go all infantry?

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>>53104525
>>53104553

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>>53104618

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So I often hear that Craftworld Eldar bikes are pretty OP. Are Dark Eldar Reavers similarly powerful?

>>53104044
>Cadia Falls
>Imperials Evacs (some) civies and troops
>Lands evacuees on nearby planet in the same system
>Fortified
>Named Cadia II in honor of Cadia

Alright boys, second verse, same as the first!
>(Angry Abbaddon screeching in indignation intensifies)
Fuck this! Fuck the warp rift going the wrong way! I'm using the Maelstrom from now one!

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Post neat paint jobs

>>53104691
Not as such, no.

>>53104739
This isn't the WIP thread and that picture is giving me eye cancer.

>>53104618
No way to tell what the meta will be in 8th but you can definitely make a mixed infantry/tank force

>>53104748
does that look like a work in progress to you, you moron?

>>53104739
It looks almost cell shaded.
>>53104748
kys

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>>53104739

>>53104759
Wow, you are actually fucking dumb. Please refrain from posting on /tg/ and go back to somewhere like /r/Warhammer40k

>>53104044
Nth for removing initiative and ws as it was it's completely unnecessary

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>>53104739

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>>53104786
what in gods name...

>>53104786
Golden Demon winner right there

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>>53104783
Yeah that was the point. Wish I could paint like that.
>>53104791
Nah I'm good hoss, enjoy your eye cancer.

>>53104786
IM THE JUGGERNAUT BITCH

>>53104786
Part of me refuses to believe that there's a marine down there. There can't possibly be, r-r-r-right?

>>53104618
There are four "types" of typical guard armies and they're all viable but rarely are more than 1 or 2 even close to competitve:
>Blob Guard
Spam Infantry Platoons and Conscripts, put heavy weapons in infantry squads, a priest for the conscripts, and two CCS squads preferably in Chimeras. Spam rank fire, Fire on my target, and bring it down forever behind an Aegis Defence Line. Not the most mobile an vulnerable to pie plates (which wont exist in 8th), but still has good board coverage and is the best in CC.
>Mechguard
Put 60 point vets in 65 point chimeras carrying 2-3 plasma, melta, or flamer/shotguns. Support with CCS squads in chimeras and tank, aircraft, or artillery support. Charge, take objectives, and throw the right men at the right target with the right orders. Not much staying power but great for taking objectives.
>Tankguard
You see those cheap tanks? They're almost as durable as land raiders (or were, not sure what 8th will do to them) and far more effective. Take a tank commander, or even 2, for BS4 and orders for tanks. Take as many Leman Russes as possible but remember to pair like Russes. Also remember its better to have more squadrons than less because you want to shoot different targets. Very vulnerable to melee and grav.
>Artyguard
Basilisks, Wyverns, and Manticores oh my! Occasionally punctuated with the deathstrike nuclear missile. Spam behind an Aegis and protect with mechanized or platoon troops. Not good at objective games.

Take one, or mix-and-match.

Making my first ever purchase today into table top gaming.

I'm going to go for some SM scouts, I'm torn though between Space Wolves and Blood angels.

Which chapter would /tg/ recommend? I prefer Space wolves but I've been lead to believe they have a lot of restrictions?

>>53104819
Not only is the paintjob ugly, cel shading is utter fucking shit. Please off yourself.

>>53104786
How much green stuff did you need to make that?

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>>53104842
I'm gonna keep posting these and there's nothing you can do about it.

>>53104314
>you'll never be removing a 10+ Wounds model in one hit with anything.

Not that guy. but: (Unless it's Archaon)

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>>53104842
how are you so mad?
>>53104867
Whoa, thanks bro

>>53104867
>i'm gonna keep being retarded and screeching like a retard while shitting on the floor and there's nothing you can do about it
Thanks for letting me know I guess?

Know what I really want out of this guys? For them to give rough riders decent rules, and to make new sculpts for them (on par with the fw dk rider sculpts)

>>53104842
>So jealous he responds to pictures with suggestions of suicide.

>>53104892
>being THIS DESPERATE for attention that you resort to calling people jealous
And this is the average nidfag all. A delusional retard who not only has awful taste in aesthetics, but is also an obnoxious cunt and suffers from delusions of grandeur.

>>53104916
Don't worry bro, practice makes perfect. You'll get there some day. Maybe.

>>53104928
>o-o-oh shit he c-called me out!
>i-i-i-i know! i-it must be s-s-s-sour grapes!
Man, imagine if everyone on this site was as delusional as you are. This place would be arguably worse than reddit.

>>53104941
you're talking to two different people buddy

>>53104916
> Sperglord tries to make it about how retarded the Nidfags are
> Winds up lookingly stunningly retarded in the process

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>>53104916
Sorry Bro! Wrong Anon!

Your jealous of Purple Nids and you know it!

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>>53104951
Post kit bashes

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>>53104947
If you say so.

>>53104950
Why are you projecting so hard

>>53104951
Pic very related

>>53104962
Your posts are becoming increasingly disjointed and nonsensical. Are you feeling alright?

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>>Posters in this thread at this moment

Hopefully GW has some interesting stuff tomorrow, so the shitposting at least has some substance to it.

>>53104978
No, the hideously painted spergbugs gave me a migraine.

Despite that however it seems like they still make much, much more sense than any of your's. But that's probably just because of your double digit IQ.

>>53104786
10/10 would fight against them all day every day

>>53104990
>than any of your's
> your's

This has to be a falseflag, you can't be THIS retarded.

>>53105007
Said the king retard, not knowing that his sheer stupidity was making everyone else equally dumb just by mere association.

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>>53104959
I might be a bit biased here, but I'm quite fond of my Grotesques.

I didn't notice until today that my subconcious took inspiration from WoW's Abominations to make my Abberations. Open guts, extra arm on shoulder, etc.

>>53104962
>>People try to start up a conversion about warhammer models with odd paint jobs. Shit poster literally posts about eating shit.

>>53104748
>>nobody post pictures of 40k models in the 40kg
Kill yourself ASAP.

>>53104800
>>53104824
>>53104858
>>53104826
>Not getting the reference
What's wrong with you people?

>>53105020
>odd paint jobs
>>>53104739
>Post neat paint jobs
>neat paint jobs
lmao, stupid dumb nidfag scum

>>53105026
More like, nobody post utter fucking shite.

>>53105019
Only sorta biased. 1: The transition between flesh and steel is a bit sudden. Some angry red irritation could be added with a red shade on the flesh. 2: Need to go over the rims of the bases with abaddon black 3: The ground is too plain and could use some foliage, rocks, dismembered limbs, or at the very least a drybrush.

>>53105027
No. I'm genuinly curious: How much greenstuff did that need?

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>>53104739

>>53105052
I've been planning on getting some desert grass tufts and rocks that better match the sand to throw on there and on the rest of my DE bases. The bases are Vallejo Desert Sand with heavily thinned agrax on them. I only have some healthy green shrubs.

With this drip feed of information we're getting about 8th every day, Part of me is expecting them to reveal the new Marines bit-by-bit. "Today we're revealing the new backpacks! Come back tomorrow when we take a look at the left leg!"

>>53105048
gb21/b/4/diy/lit/

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>>53105027
Doing some archive searching tells me pic related is the reference?

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>>53105033
It's never going to get better. Just pull the trigger and let it all go.

>>53105076
Shit! We're tracked! Go get the spare links.
>Okay boss I'll-AAAH!
*Sigh* Whoever thought the gaping demon maw on the back of the tank was a good idea needs to get a firsthand look at the intricacies of tank maintenance while the tank you service is trying to kill you...

>>53105085
I mean I got the following info directly from my blackshirt today, not sure how many grains of salt you want to take it with, but he's a pretty chill dude that doesn't seem like the type to make this up.

>NuMarines are called Primaris Marines
>Guilliman started the Primaris Marines project back during the heresy to combat chaos-infused Traitors because normal marines were losing ground vs chaos-powered brethren
>They are Bobby G's geneseed crossed with methods of making Custodes and added AdMech Tech
>only Cawl and Bobby G knew of the project
>Thousands of Primaris Marines we created and stored on different worlds across galaxy in cryo-pods ready for deployment(remember the teaser video)
>Fulgrim vs Guilliman happened and the Primaris Marines were never launched
>Cawl didn't want to launch them without the word of Bobby G
>Cawl's actual main objective was to get these marines to launch, but the objective of rezzing Guilliman came first
>These marines are to help bolster chapters that are low in numbers
>Some will reject the Primaris Marines as abominations because they are not made with X Primarch's geneseed
>potentially cause a rift in the Imperium

Gamewise:
>They are THE answer to Truescale marines without replacing the entire range(and pissing off customer base), so they can be used as Truescales OR Primaris Marines
>Primaris Marines can be fielded along side other Space Marines
>Primaris Marines can be fielded as a standalone force
>More points heavy than GK
>Primaris Marines have exclusive access to some new weapons
>1 type of weapon per squad, so all 5 guys get the same weapon
>The Starter set is Ultras VS Death Guard (You do get Primaris Marines, too.)
>Starter set should include roughly 56 models
>Under $150 USD
>5 Books at launch, Space Marines, Imperium, Chaos, Xenos 1, and Xenos 2, each serving as a printed compendium of the "all released at once" rules update for 8th with faction exclusive updates coming later

>>53105094
You are right, your shitty paintjobs are never going to get better. I don't see why it's me shooting myself when you should be dropping an elliot roger on your highschool.

Free those poor kids from their miserable existence of dealing with you.

I'm making my first ever model purchase today. What route should I expect my life to take from this point onwards? The only table top gaming I've done is the Warhammer quest card game

>>53105094
Fuck me that's some good paintwork!

>>53105116
You're going to spend way more money than you think you are.

>>53104341

WHFB Chaos Warriors - The original Power Armor wielders.

>>53105123
How will my grillfriend respond? Should I expect to get dumped?

>>53104119

Nobody should be allowed to win like >>53104219 says. And Chaos has just fucked up the galaxy more than anyone else could ever hope to. I mean shit they have taken the grim darkness of the 41st millennium and made the 42nd millennium even more dark with gork's grin.

We just have to hope Gillymen doesn't become Karl Franz and oh christ he's going to become the physical spirit for the empire's soul isn't he.

>>53105116
Expect either:
Lots of kinda-good playtime with grey plastic
or
Long (hopefully enjoyable) weeks of painting punctuated by intensely enjoyable games with colorful plastic.

>>53105144
lol

>>53105144
Expect to find an ovipositor hidden in the weirdest place.

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>>53105161
Woah there anon, HALT RIGHT THERE! Mr. JANITOR here, NO GSCB POSTING ALLOWED!

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kek autists eternally BTFO

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>>53105101
Dammit, why is there mouth in the back like that

>Dark mechanicus makes beeping and wiring noises
To feed the demon of course

>>53105186
Dark mechanicus and r&h when???

If Abaddon destroyed the pylons and let the Eye surge forth, how can Cadia possibly be retaken? Shouldn't it be fully submerged in the Warp?

>>53104916
You're a big dumb head!

>>53105256
Are you still steamed a nid poster posted a neat paint job?

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FOOLISH MORTALS!

>>53105261
Cadia's gone. Abaddon blew it up.

>>53105280
no it isn't, it's chaos occupied, not destroyed

>>53105271
horrific yet amazing

>>53105148
>Gorks Grin

IT'S MORKS GRIN YA GIT!

>>53105286
Didn't abaddon smash a blackstone into it?

>>53105176
>Actually did get a 3day ban.

>>53105102
Blackshirts don't get this info. He rused you or you're making shit up.

>>53105293
it's still a moderately interesting paint job

>>53105271
>Long ago in a distant land, I, Trygon, the shape shifting master of darkness, unleashed an unspeakable evil. But a foolish Space Marine warrior wielding a Force Sword stepped forth to oppose me. Before the final blow was struck, I tore open a portal in time, and flung him into the future where my evil is law. Now the fool seeks to return to the past and undo the future that is Hivemind.

>>53105134
Ok aggressive autist chill your titties.

>>53105329
>m-m-muh samefag!
What's wrong, scared that people here don't have accounts unlike your precious wiki and that you can't tell people apart? It's ok, this problem is alleviated by you going back to where you came from.

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>>53105261
The interior of the Eye exists in both the materium and in immaterium. it wouldn't be the first time the Imperium has launched attacks into the eye.

>>53105286
No Abaddon literally smashed a blackstone fortress into it and blew it up. Pic related

>>53105350
Are....are you implying people make accounts on wiki's? Do you have a 4chan gold membership buddy?

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>>53104739
>>53104819
>>53104867
>>53104887
Makes me wonder about doing a Tau army with Gunpla style panel lining. A Gundam marker would probably make it pretty easy to do.

>>53105355
>>53105296
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/06/new-warhammer-40000-war-zone-cadia-may6gw-homepage-post-4/

Seems to imply it's still around in some form.

>>53105388
>There are whispers in Imperial Sector Command of the possibility of retaliatory strikes, of claiming back some territory lost in the recent war, and even of reclaiming the ruins of Cadia herself.
mhmmm

>>53105116
If you actually enjoy it, you will lose a bunch of money FAST. Only when you realize just how much money you can spend in so little time will will you be able to resist the allure of the great plastic that will soon be your god.

Also, I would come up with a way to explain what the hobby IS, since explaining it to humans who don't do this is kind of a pain. I go with 'more complicated, less balanced chess' personally.

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How involved is Psyker stuff with Grey Knights in this edition?

I liked running GKs back in 3rd, but I'm not a fan of psychic stuff. I just liked the small, elite Space Marine feel. Special bolters and better WS/BS was neat, along with Fearless.

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Would it be reasonable for a guard army to be assigned Goliath Trucks as part of their motorpool?

I was considering a Taurox instead, but I feel like the open platforms and railings fit the feel of my force more.

I'd probably still end up running it as a Taurox, rules-wise, I just want to know how out of place it would be.

>>53105358
That's actually pretty neat.
I eagerly await the angry dude to shit all over it and tell you to go back.

>>53105399
They're all psykers, so pretty involved.

>>53105388
The Cadian system is still around, the planet is not. They even say "the ruins of Cadia".

>>53105366
Ignore him. He is /tg/'s Barney Fag.

Don't converse with it or respond to it.

>>53105399
You mean 8th? We really don't know yet. Odds are though, it won't be nearly as convoluted as 7th was. Psychic powers are gonna be a simple 2d6 test compared to the warp charge value of the power, higher being better.

You might consider going for Deathwatch instead though. They've got special bolters on everyone and are pretty well set up as Elite marines without as much psychic stuff going on.

>>53105401
there meant to be used for industrial purposes rather than military so I doubt it, though im sure there are plenty of guard regiments that would commandeer such vehicles. I imagine they might be used (stolen) by the chem-dogs for example.

>>53105407
S-say it again, senpai.
*fapfapfap*

>>53105399
In 7th, we're hot garbage that gets out-anything'd by just about every other army. We can't handle anything larger than cavalry Daemons because of all the fucking formations and shit they get. But we are extremely psyker heavy.

I don't think they can get any worse with 8th, so I'm optimistic for my guys. Not to mention the simplified Psyker phase.

>>53105355
Didn't the last major Incursion into the Eye result in the largest corruption of astartes since the Heresy? Throwing a legion's worth of astartes into the Cicatrix can't end well.

>>53105397
Simply ebin good sir :)

>>53105396
I generally go with sci-fi model tanks/airplanes because almost everyone has heard of or seen those.

>>53105399
If you want special snowflake marines without the psyker shit just play Custodes

>>53105417
He's been fun to poke at tho

>>53105196
>>53105256
>>53105278
>>53105293
>>53105333
>>53105397
>>53105407

Nigga, this seriously how you gonna spend your time?

>>53105401
Not too out of place if you fluff it as a rear line logistics truck and add suitable bits.

>>53105396
>more complicated, less balanced chess
Are you me?

>>53105426
The Abysmal Crusade? To be fair that was at least in part because they were never really meant to even return and just sort of cast into the Eye and told to do damage or die.

Granted I doubt any incursion into the Eye, even the edge of it, will go without it's share of Heresy.

>>53105439
And it just encourages him to shit up the thread beyond the usual level of shitposting we get here.

the mods should probably filter "1d4ddit" to be honest. I guess for now I'll just add it to my 4chanx filters

>>53105423
Hmm...unfortunately my guys aren't nearly as dirty as the chem-dogs when it comes to such things.

>>53105453
That's more in line with the sort of thing I was thinking with it, though as you said rear-line, it also doesn't sound like their style.

Alright, no big, bulky industrial support vehicles for them. Guess I'll take another look at that wheeled Taurox conversion.

Thanks for the advice.

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>>53105455
Why, anon, dont you recongnize me.

I'm

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>>53105424
That's hot
>>53105443
Just fucking report and ignore

>>53105469
Use it however you want man. If you think it looks cool go for it. I'm just trying to help from a fluff stand point.

>>53105358
Your time is over gundam

>>53105480
Don't respond. It's just a shitposter.

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How do my minis look so far? I am new to warhammer, go ez on me please.

Tips appreciated too.

>>53105489
Well, essentially I'm going for a more Roman Gladiator theme to my force, so I liked the Goliath since it had a bit of a 'chariot' look to it (raised front, lower platform) and just generally looked like the sort of thing a bunch of rowdy guardsmen could leap off of into the fray.

>>53105519
Thin paints
Apply washes
Use highlights
Other than that, good start

>>53105519
THIN YOUR PAINTS
Also those are in desperate need of highlights as the skin features are just drowned out in that dark green.

>>53105519
Thin your paints, what are washes etc.

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>>53105507
Wow, this guy went full autistic.

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>>53105519
THIN
YOUR
PAIN

>>53105531
>>53105533
When I thin them too much they get bubbles in them, so it leaves marks on them. The little red one I tried a null oil mix on, so he looks worse than I had hoped.

>>53105523
If you are going for that more fringe/feral world theme then it should be just fine for them to use logistic and utility trucks as they probably don't have a lot of Munitorum support.

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>>53105555
Watch some Duncan for thinning tips if you are having issues my quads getting man.

>>53105423
>no salvar chem dog models
why cant gw just make bits for 100 different regiments

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>>53105576
I'll do that before I ruin all my orks, thanks

>>53105555
>when I thin them too much
You already explained the issue yourself. don't thin them down as much as you're doing now. Watch some of Duncan's videos to see the consistency you should be aiming for.

And don't mix paints unless you know what you're doing, christ. With washes, you're aiming to paint only the recesses, not the entire model.

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>>53105583
Best thing about learning to paint orks. There's always more orks to paint.

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>>53105577
And a check for you too double dubs.

>>53105579
man, if only.

Chem-dogs you could probably convert easily enough though, shaving off the chaos-y bits to chaos cultists might give you a ramshackle enough look. I've also seen conversions with the forgeworld chaos renegad bits.

>>53105374
Wait.. do these work with 40k models? Painting Eldar vehicles doesn't seem like that much of a cancer all of sudden.

>>53105583
If you fuck up you can always re-spray-prime it

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>>53105598

>>53105599
never thought of that, i used to have an old chapter approved that had converted guys into chem dogs, and i always loved the idea of them

Do you anons go to game stores to play 40k? If so, how has your experience been with the other 40k players?

>>53105628
anvilindustry.co.uk/Regiments/Infantry-Heads-Helmets/trench-irregular-heads

>>53105676
I try, but it's always so awkward. I like to play against people with neat, painted armies I don't usually get to fight, but usually I just stick to my friend group and play on our table.

>>53105735
very cool, thanks anon. nabbed some cultits off ebay, gonna get some of these and see what i can do

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>>53105374
Pens are a great tool if you are willing to experiment.

I did a Alpha Legion using a blue metallic Bic pen. and on large models I basecoat golds and silvers with Sharpie metallic permanent pens.

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>no more formations in 8th edition
RIP pretend tyranid furfag formation

>>53105676
I'm forced to as both of my friends are terribad at the game and play shit tier armies:
orks and no legion csm, though the csm player is finally moving to a legion, shame it's world eaters

>>53105323
>But a foolish Khaldor Drogo, warrior wielding a Force Sword

40k history is a lie

>>53105759
xhes baaaaaack

the last time I played 40k against another person was ten years ago. I hope that in 8th I actually get to play.

I did a few games against myself in 7th to get hold of the rules, but almost nobody around here plays. The only sort of nearby 40k club is competitive 2000+ points only, and the nearest game store with wargaming tables takes me so long to get to that to go there after work means I get there about when they close.

>>53105862
>The only sort of nearby 40k club is competitive 2000+ points only
Why don't you go there and make friends, autist? Surely somebody there would be willing to set up a game with you that isn't 2k

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i finished painting and basing my infiltrators, i tried to have a nice metalic trim on the armor but i just ended up going over the lines and making it look weird on most of the troops, the princep doesnt look too bad

also i need a name for the leader, im thinking of naming him gabrilo (cuz hes a principe)

So fluff wise how likely is it for a "strength 3" weapon to actually kill a Marine? I've been thinking about SW:A gangers killing Marines with autopistols and such and realized how unversed I am in the lore of 40k

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>>53105759
Blacks don't play 40k. Really, they don't.

>Too Expensive
Same reason why they don't play Magic, or any other nerd hobby. Game stores do not accept EBT cards; meanwhile, convenience stores will often be complicit in fraud and overlook their purchases of malt liquor. Five 40oz bottles > Five unassembled plastic space men.

>Lack of Artistic Ability
Aside from paints costing money, they have little artistic skill. This is why you only ever see them paint mono-colored angled lines. It's good if you give them a narrow spray and let them "tag" your terrain for a more authentic feel.

>Requires Commitment, Dedication, and Strategic Planning
Do you really think a BLACK MALE is going to be dedicated to showing up to a game store once a week at the same night and time, when they can't even show up in their kid's life? That kid was probably the product of some "AYY GIMME SUM" one night, and he went in bareback because "FUK".

>Perception of their Peers
This is probably the biggest one: their "friends" will think them a faggot for playing with dolls/army men with fat white boys in the nicer part of town.

And if you think I'm full of raycissisms, let me ask you this: tell me what army your black players play.
The answer is none. I have 0 black players in my 40k or Warmachine circles, and there aren't any in Malifaux or Infinity. I did see one black playing one of the Star Wars miniature games, but that's it.

>>53105886
They don't have a set location but rather you fill out an application and if they like you they email you the address each week (looks like it is people's houses and garages and stuff). Either they didn't like me enough to tell me when and where they meet, or the group actually died out and they just haven't taken their website down.

maybe I shouldn't have posted

>>53105930
Then explain the black guy I saw playing fucking 30k Mechanicum. Granted, he was using them as 40k, but the fact that he owns them is still there.

>>53105930
>(You)

>>53105939
Niger where do you live. Down to the city please.

>>53105923
Space Marines wear power armor for a reason. They may be tough super humans, but they aren't invincible.

S3 covers a really wide range of weapons, from stub guns (1940s cased ammunition), autoguns (1980s "advanced" weapons with caseless ammo), sci fi laser guns, a shotgun, etc. Some of those are deadlier than others, but if 40k was that granular the game would take forever.

>>53105940
Statistical outlier.

>>53105930
There's a black guy at my local gw, he plays necrons and enjoyed spamming croissants during 6th though he'd never use them against me since I ran barracudas.

>>53105930
> What army your black players play

Chaos Space Marines.

>>53105940
he found them in the basket of some dudes bike

>>53105975
Yeah I get the point about s3 covering a lot of different things, hence the quotation marks in my post. I guess I'm just wondering like, if a cultist shoots at a Space Marine who's in his power armor, and he actually gets a lethal shot off, was that shot like 1 in a million insane, or did he just get pretty lucky?

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>>53105930
all the (You) an anon could ever ask for

>>53105996
>Cease making these bigotted remarks towards the colorful diverse POC members of our community!
Again, my point is: what POC members?
Despite going downtown to play (where 90% of my state's African-American population lives) my playgroup is 80% white, 15% asian, 5% latino.
We've had blacks watch us play before, but every time they do the conversation goes like this:
>Damn, that army looks nice.
>Thanks.
>How much did it cost?
>$X,000
>SHEEEEEEEEEEEIT.

>>53106034
>>How much did it cost?
>>$X,000
>>SHEEEEEEEEEEEIT.
I get this reaction from pretty much anyone that asks about getting into 40k

>>53105995
this is where it gets hazy as different authors handle it differently.

Autoguns and Stubguns should not be able to penetrate ceremite (a better version of modern day ballistic ceramics), but the soft armor used in the joints would be more vulnerable, as would the marine's face (we all know space marine officers love to take their helmets off)

The marines themselves have denser and wider bones, are considerably more muscular, etc, but /k/ommando 9mm jokes aside, bullets and las shots of any variety would still be quite damaging an unarmored space marine just that it might not drop them died right away. Even in the real world against ordinary humans bullets don't always kill instantly.

tl;dr it's your story and you can do what you want, especially since both in game terms and logically it would be possible to have happen, just unlikely. Maybe the marine's armor was compromised, or maybe it was a well placed shot.

>>53105909
>finished

You should apply a wash to the metal parts to give them some depth.

>>53105973
i am terrified that if I give out my city then when some autist joins the secret meetup group they will get pointed out and made fun of for being an autist on /tg/

I also rely on public transit which limits the areas I can get to easily

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Space Furries, got a question for you. Is Logan Grimnar like the primarchs from Forgeworld that separate from the giant base? Or are his bits separated enough that could just base him on his own and then stick that base in the sled if you ever feel like using him?

>>53106034
>X,000
What?
I've spent less than $700 australian dollars and have a pretty large army (over 2000 points), I also have the tools glue, paint, paint brushes and forgeworld models included in that price. 40k isn't expensive compared to a nice pc or other hobbies, the reason people think it's expensive is because you're paying for plastic toy soldiers and most people just don't place monetary value on such things

>>53106065
While reading this post I slowly began to realize this was the response I was fishing for
Thanks anon

>>53106143
Please tell me you aren't seriously considering putting Logan on that sled.

If somebody forced me to either use that model or die, I'd choose death.

>>53106186
I love it, it's fucking hilarious.

>>53106143
Jesus, and I thought space yiffers couldn't possible get any worse

>>53105930

I saw like 3 black people at adepticon.

Aside from that the only black guy at our store is an older guy (talks about his grandkids) who plays a historical civil war game... as the south.

>>53105978

Yeah i would expect list tailoring from a nigger.

>>53106186
I don't want to use the sled. Just wondering if it was like the primarchs in that you can pop him in and out of it at will or if you need to convert it so that he's a regular terminator

>>53106143
Is this from Age of Sigmar?

>>53106248
Nope it's the Lord of War for the space wolves. It's pretty retarded looking but playing the chariotsled is optional. (buying it isn't :^) )

>>53105756
That crisp white Bolter is making me salivate. What's your secret?

>>53105930
i know this is just bait, but our circle has a black dude whose like dark dark, you cant see him in the shade, hes a total weeaboo and plays tau and wears a headband from some anime

>>53104413
Get a Forgeworld one then, silly Billy. Leave the model releases to shit that actually needs it.

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Man I can't believe GW still hasn't made a plastic Warboss kit
That seems like a prime thing to get a plastic kit

>>53105760
>Literally using wolves
>Not converting marauders into fenrisian servs
do you even forge the narrative?

>>53106388
Who is the far right boss? Dawn of War?

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>>53104341

He said he wanted an update that didn't make them look shit anymore, not a one that fucking ruined them.

>>53106388
Because no one likes Orks including GW.

Shitty reddit comic relief faction, thank god they're getting NPC'd.

>>53106403
warboss grukk box. its him and like 8 boyz or something

>>53106143
You can base him normally, in fact with the box they give you a terminator base, but I don't think you can fit his base inside the sled

>>53105472
Leman Russ?

>>53106447
>literally confirmed as the winner of DoW1 in DoW3
>getting NPC'd

lmao@gitz
I bet this is an assblasted IG faggot

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Will 8th finally allow me to field an ogryn regiment again?

Would you guys be bothered if you were playing a Renegades and Heretics dude and he'd modelled his heavy weapons guys as ogryns or servitors lugging a big gun? It wouldn't be modelling for advantage, if anything it would make them taller than the crouching heavy weapons teams so they'd enjoy the benefit of cover less. They count as one model with two wounds anyway so it doesn't seem to me like it would be a huge problem? Same base size obviously.

>>53106485
i dont mind people who do that kind of stuff in friendly pick up games, i think its neat to see the kind of stuff people do. i also dont play hardcore tournaments though, so those people might differ

how much money should I expect to dump for a decent 2000 point army?

>>53106504
It depends on the army and the way you want to play it

>>53106504
I would also like too know this, specifically csm

>>53106485
Only tourneyfags and WAACfags care about that kind of shit. Unless you're going to be playing against those niggers, do whatever you want.

>>53106504
Depends, what army?

>>53106485
I, and most people I know, would be fine with that sort of thing. Best to ask the people you'd be playing against, if you have a regular group that is

>>53106504
wait for 8th rules so we know what units are ok and point costs my friend

>>53106482

Probably, judging by the new formations I would imagine their will be a one for elite armies.

Probably won't be any good though, unless they make them bulky instead of very bulky.

>>53106510
>>53106516
I was thinking either tyranids or sisters of battle, but I heard both are out of date right now sadly.
>>53106521
yeah, thinking about just waiting for that. any expected release date?

>>53106504
>>53106514

For anything in power armour, £200 is the lower spectrum.

For anything else £400 is the higher spectrum, you'll have to convert that to burgermoney if you live that way.

>>53106537
>tyranids
What kind of list are you building? Flying nigger circus, gaunt spam, genestealer spam, nidzillas etc.?

>SoB
lmao good luck

>>53106545
suit tau is probably one of the cheapest forces out there, two crisis teams, a broadside and a riptide will get you a 1000 point list and a decurion filled out

>>53106537
>Sisters

You're looking at ~$100 for a squad with transport that is anywhere from 130-180pts total. You're looking at about $1000-1200 for a 2000pt SoB army.

>>53106584

True, they can rack up a lot of points quick but then after that crisis suits can get pretty expensive.

Same for Deathwing I guess, Termies are cheaper than most things in money/points ratio.

Just got a prospero box, anyone know where to get mkiii bits?

>>53106616

I'm just hoping that termies are actually good. My hopes are high-ish, but knowing GW, they will probably fuck it up some how. I have a whole bunch from my HH sets, and I just want to slam a bunch of Night Lord termies with lightning claws into units. However, I fear that even if they can assault after Deepstrike that they'll have the same problem, which is once they are out of combat, they will be too slow to accomplish anything.

>>53106707
Forgeworld or China.

anyone want to play a 2000 point game through 4chan?

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>>53106728

>>53106728
Okay *I flip the table and stomp on ur models* GG nerd

>>53106728
we seriously need to set up a skype or whatever battlegroup with everyone having the same terrain mat and scenery

>>53106485
No one bothered by that is worth playing against.

>>53106810
"no"

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>Got into 40k 8 years ago because terminators and dreadnoughts are my favorite marine models
>They are consistently shit
>Wanted to start a Tyranid army based around Warriors, Carnifex and Lictors when 5th edition came out
>They are consistently shit
>Started a Dark Eldar army based around Wyches and Hellions
>Worst units in the game in 7th

>>53106829
Termies have 2 wounds now.

>>53106829
Well, it appears that now terminators and dreadnought may be more worthy than ever, so you could try using your first option

But first is probably better that you wait for 8th edition to actually drop and see what they are going to actually be like

>>53106829
Termies are getting buffed and walkers in general seem to be a lot better now too.

>>53106722

Well the ability for units to just fall-back from combat in their turn could make them dead in the water. Plus the new AP rules have overall hurt high save models like them.

Honestly I can't see them getting better unless they get a huge overhaul and we've already seen the main stats, they got an extra wound.

>>53106894

An extra wound will definitely help them against even massed small arms fire, everyone thinks they'll get a save after save like stuff in AoS, so that's something at least.

>>53106894
Their save really isn't changing. AP1/2 is now -3 which would leave you with a 5+ which is exactly what they would get now from their invlun. We don't even know how invluns work yet, for all we know they're an extra save like FNP.

>>53106918

I think shooting termies will get a boost but assault will be much worse, all you have to do is fall back, drive up the vindicator and they're pizza.

>>53106926

Yeah but against everything else it's worse. All you need is AP-1 and they have the same save as a marine. I imagine autocannons etc. will have this.

>>53106932
Unless they buff the fuck out of stormbolters or greatly reduce the points of terminator special weapons, shooty termies will never be viable

>>53106944

They'll get a big points reduction. Storm bolter will hopefully get a buff as well since it's pretty shit across the board except on sisters in rare circumstances.

>>53106932
We'll have to see what they're going to do about the unwieldy weapons and the invulnerable

Being able to hit first with thunder hammers or power fists would mean being able to immediately destroy most units, except hordes and monstrous creatures with dozens of wounds
The invulnerable save is most likely going to be changed, since right now at least for the terminators it's like it doesn't actually matter in it current form


Also being in cover would add +1 to their armor save, reducing the effect of the weapons' AP

>>53106932

Shooting termies are going to be a lot better, yea, which makes me even MORE upset that LSM got Tartaros. At least CSM can drop 4 combi-flamers and a Heavy flamer for TONS OF WOUNDS

>>53106944
Depends on points points, really. For us, a Reaper AC is a joke because it's 25 goddamn points.

>>53106938
I think it would be cool if termies ignored the first point of rend.

>>53106961
My combi-bolters weep

>>53106969
Being in cover is a big advantage for termies for sure, which is another + for shooting, really.

>>53106938
Unless an autocannon gets more than 1 damage, they'd be in the same boat.

>>53106938
That's why going back to the WHF model of having invulerable save stack will be definitely be an improvement to their survivability.

It also gives them a chance to nerf the easily obtainable 2+ and 3+ invulnerable saves from stormshields without completely invalidating them, they can make stormshield a 5+ invul normally and 4+ invul against close combat attack and I will be perfect okay with that.

>>53106932
Assaulting in general seems to be more focused towards broad assaults that catch as many units in combat as possible, catching isolated units, or just trying to force an individual unit to waste it's turn pulling back.

>>53105596
Welp, that killed my motivation.

How big do tsons armies tend to look? Like say 1k points, how many models

>>53107105
It varies.
Magnus or not, Daemon battery or not, Sorcerer cabal or not, Scarab cult termies or not.

>>53107105
Right now? Not many. Sub 30.

>>53107123
No daemons and no Magnus

>>53107105
It depends on what you run. You can buy bunch of Tzaangors for cheap bodies.

Still, you are likely to have something like three to four sorcs and squad or two of Rubrics with Rhinos and squad of Termies as your core. So around fifteen?

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Thinking of grabbing a FW 30k primarch, given that it looks like the End Times are coming and GW's gonna make not-as-good ones for 40k for all the """missing""" ones.

>>53107133
>>53107175
Hm thanks
Guess they make a decent elite force
Look fun to paint too

Can an Imperial Knight using the gauntlet toss a superheavy?

>>53107105
My 1K has 12 Thousand Sons and 12 Daemons.

>>53107178
I was wondering about the size difference between a FW and GW Robot Girlyman, and how many people would be bothered by that.

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What are your opinions on painting blood onto figures? I like to dry brush some dried blood onto the tips of sharp ork bits, but recently someone said that it looks tacky.

What do you guys think? Does anyone else do this?

>>53107256
I honestly haven't seen them side by side. Is one way bigger?

>>53104691

Nope, reavers only have a 5+ save compared to Windrider's 3+sv, have shittier weapons and can't be troops for that sweet ObSec.

They aren't bad though- they're actually one of the best units in the codex. 3+ jink save and 3d6 strength 6 rending auto-hits from cluster caltrops is nice.

>>53105019

they're big guys.

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>>53107290
pic related is one of my first models from years ago (I've since moved away from all-grass bases and hopefully improved elsewhere as well lul), I like to splatter blood on the mini with a toothbrush. the pic doesn't really show it but GW blood for the blood god technical paint looks really nice against white CSM horns on helmets. and I lightly brush the edges of melee weapons with blood, it's not very light on this dude tho

I am planning to do something similar with my current army's melee marines.

>>53107378
Looks good. I think it looks nice on guys sometimes, especially if you are playing tyranid or something like that. Nice grass base btw

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>>53107290
Depends, I think it complements the design if you're doing a battle-damaged look, but often I think alot of people overdo the amount of blood which makes it look bad, same way battle-damage can be overdone. You don't want the model to look like it's gone swimming in claret.

Duncan did a 'How to paint Heresy World Eaters' tutorial and covered adding blood effects in that, might be worth a look.

>>53106810
Tabeltop Simulator..do you speak it.

>>53104341
Model on the left is much better, m80. Or is that the joke?

>>53107562
of course but sometimes people want to show off their minis

>>53107614
Only masosists want to show their models to 4chan.

>>53104819
THAT IS COOL AS SHIT DUDE!

>>53104867
Post gaunts?

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When you roll 2 d6 on Chaos Boon Table

>>53107731
Please stop

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>>53107633
True story bro.

>>53107731

I had an apoc game where one opponent's Warp Talon champion got himself to near a Lord's statline.
It got
>+2 save
>2 wounds
>BS5

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>>53107822
>warp talon
>bs 5

>>53107931

He's got grenades right?

>>53107378
>Playing CSM
>Not using your own blood to calm our bloodthirsty gods
>Are you some kind of Thousand Son or what?

>>53107938
Warp Talons don't get grenades dumbass. It's one of the reasons they're so shit.

>>53104739
Im in love

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>>53107931
Well you could park him on a fortification

>>53107969

Well excuse me for not knowing what a unit I've never faced in 11 years has as equipment. I just assume all marines have grenades because all the ones I face seem to have them.

>>53108000
You are right marines normally do have grenades, terminators and all CSM units that would actually need them are the exception.

>>53106829
i think you do not understand how to play game, because all of the units and editions you mentioned were completely fine

I never realized until just now doing some work on my older brother's old marines to make a SWA killteam that these Marines are 90% mold lines. What the actual fuck? How do marine players deal with this shit whenever they pick up a new box of dudes?

>>53108046
>tyranids were fine in 5th
>wyches and hellions were fine in 7th

What?

This is how I'm painting my Nids, thoughts?

https://i.imgur.com/bEzo1OC.png

Sorry for not just posting it here, on mobile.

>>53108111
>being so fucking stupid that you don't know how to post images on mobile
How do you even have the mental capacity to breathe?

>>53108068
?

>>53108131
You wanna explain it then, champ?

>>53108111
good god, not my cup of tea

>>53108111
It looks pretty retro sci-fi if that's what you're looking for. It's a little too gaudy for me though

>>53108171
>open post window
>tap on the grey button that says choose file
>enter your photo library
>select the image
How is such a nobrainer process so difficult for you? Do you have some sort of mental retardation? Do you regularly post on /r9k/'s /stupid/ threads?

>>53108111
It looks like fukn doritos. Like a toy from a happy meal

>>53108213
I've literally never used mobile sites before.

>>53108213
Why you overact so hard?

>>53108213
Wait, like the browse button, with no file selected next to it? That does fuck all.

That does fuck all.

>>53108233
he's on 4chan, he's culturally pressed to do so

but you didn't even try m8

>>53108232
Maybe you should just not use the internet at all. Cut off your router and go back to playing with legos in your dimly lit basement.

>>53108233
This is a basic fucking concept that even a 5 year old could figure out on his own. He deserves whatever shit anyone gives him.

>>53108243
You enter browse, and then you fucking select a file you fucking single digit IQ retard. Holy fuck.

>>53108253
It literally does nothing, you dumb fuck. Nothing happens, no windows, no text, nothing.

>>53108271
What kind of piece of shit phone are you posting from? Are you even doing exactly as I say?

This is like trying to explain to DSPgaming how to fucking equip rations.

>>53108282
It's an android tablet. Lenovo Yoga Tab 3 Plus.

I click browse, nothing happens. It registers that I clicked it, but then nothing.

>>53108305
>it's an android
Oh, that explains a lot all right

>nothing happens
What other fucking options are there? Do you even have anything saved to your photo library or is it completely fucking empty? Are you posting from the mobile site or from the desktop site?

>>53108319
Mobile site, and that Nid picture is showing up in my gallery, so that should be there.

>>53108342
>What other fucking options are there?
You aren't even reading my fucking posts properly goddamn.

>>53108319
>it's an android
>Applefag

My piece of shit android tablet that i bought 5 years ago can post a fucking picture just fine.

>>53108348
There's fucking nothing, or I would have said.

It's literally browse and nothing else. It asked to allow firefox to take pictures once, but I tried it with that allowed and diasallowed and it made no fucking difference.

>>53108355
Well unlike you with your fucking piece of shit android tablet I'm the one giving technical support to the special olympics contestant over here. So why not you shut up, sit down, and suck it up?

>>53108360
>firefox
Jesus christ, the more I read this the more I feel both bewildered and disgusted.

Go to your settings, check the permissions for accessing your photo library. Is your browser allowed or not?

>>53108362
Look how useful your work is so far.
> that explains a lot all right

Yeah sure, Bub.

>>53108374
Yes, both camera and storage are allowed.