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Hey /tg/, just brought pic related to play it with my Skitarii and make a recast with resin , yet I have a few questions:
How do Imperial knights work? Can I paint it and equip it with whatever and claim it's from a made up house, like I would do with a space marine chapter? Or do I need to stick to the ones on the box?

>>53044803
Yes. You have to paint it as one of the houses on the box or GW will show up and take it away from you.

So lads, the 'leaked' picture of those nu-Marines we saw a few months ago turned out to be legit? Anybody have them saved?

>>53044803
Make it up if you want. It'll only matter when Age of the Emperor is released and you'll get benefits for painting it a certain way, then demand your opponents let you pick and choose the benefit you want like faggots do in AoS.

>>53044863
Daddy Issues.

>>53044870
Seriously, can this shitpost stay in it's containment general? Or if you're going to move into 40k, can you at least pick a mascot animal to use for all your posts?

>>53044846
unknown if that specific marine was legit, but gw posted some marines on the new 40k website in an image they have since taken down. those marines seemed scaled to deathwatch/thousand sons proportions and looked like new sculpts.

Just read Storm of Damocles, It's pretty good.

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Aww yeah, nidzilla army coming together. So excited for 8th. Gonna wait until the rules drop and then pick up another couple big ass monsters for this.

>>53044920
What? I just over heard it when playing a game, somebody wanted to run their gold Sigmarines as some other one and some other guy was having none of it and there was autistic screeching. Calm down mate, you're not him are you?

>>53044926
Hmm. Did anybody snag the image before it was taken down? If they're just better scaled models, I'm happy with that. But that trailer mentions some new bollocks. Is this just in-setting hand wave to make Space Marines seem more epic? So they're the same Astartes but just bigger?

>>53044969
I'm not that happy with it, my Blood Angels unique units will look like midgets in comparison to ULTRAmarines.

>>53044928
>write based and lovable Tau characters
>have the marines kill them off

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>53044969
we don't know if they're the RG special project or just new space marine sculpts. It's "wait for more info" mode right now

>>53044998
They're the same size as the new Deathwatch kits. Only reason they look taller is due to not squatting

>>53045012
Exactly, the xenos deserve nothing but death and despair.

they died pretty rad though

>>53044998
It begins. The tears of a thousand marine players now that their armies look like squatting manlets. Hue.

>>53045033
He said Storm of Damocles, not Blades of Damocles.

>>53044998
Me neither. I hope they're not new anything desu.

>>53045019
God dammit, then what was the trailer all about "This is combining muh fathers vision + mechanicum" shit?

>>53045034
So instead of having their knees slightly bent, they'll be upright? What the fuck was the trailer about?

>>53045056
LE AGE OF THE EMPEROR!!!!! FUCKING JEW DOUBLE JEW JEWING US AGAIN! Etc.

>>53045069
>What the fuck was the trailer about?

Rowboat Gullywash is making new marines. They aren't gonna be bigger, but they'll probably end up being some elite choice that has some special benefit or something.

The fluff of it is stupid, but it's being pitched an addition, not replacement

>>53045080
Hey Ch'an had a hard life, which ended the best way possible, by the hands of the Based-Watch

>>53045080
>>53045080
No, you didn't. Farsight does not feature in the novel.

If you are making a point about him being the only based Tau character, then you are just butting in to be a total cunt.

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So I'm looking at starting a 30k Word Bearers army. and they get Malefic Daemonology to play with, and Daemon HQs to cast said powers. Obviously /hhg/ doesn't use many Daemons and I don't use many Psykers, so if I have about 6-7 Warp Charge to start with (+D6, obviously), what are some good things to summon that won't cost me a bajillionty pounds? I'd preferably like to avoid Tzeench, but all the other gods are cool. Up against ALL THE MEQS.

I considered a Nurgle Herald with Doomsday Bell just for the lulz, is any of the other Nurgle stuff good?

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>>53045103
So, as my mates thought, they're gonna be Thunder Warriors, but you know, not possible to die of old age and actually have a brain.

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I just remembered this guy existed. Does anyone here recall somebody actually using him ? His rules seem great and he's cheap points-wise but I never hear about him or had anybody use him against me.

>>53045162
They'd be closer to the marines Corax was attempting to pump out than the thunder warriors.

>>53045162
No one knows what they're actually going to be.

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>>53045193
Also this guy.

>>53045194
>>53045204
Hmm. We'll see then.

>>53045193
I've never seen anyone playing him nor mention him. That would be because I play WH40k, as the rest of people in this thread, not 30k.

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So I'm tempted to pick up the Dark Vengeance set before it's discontinued as I like the Chaos space marines in it and they don't appear to be sold separately. What rules do they use exactly? As I noticed it said they are chaos "chosen" and not Chaos space marines

>>53045162
But Thunder Warriors are weaker than Space Marines.
These new Marines are confirmed to be more power and have Primarch genes.

>>53045240
You do realise ATSKNF is only for 40k Space Marines, right? 30k marines don't have that rule. So that rule set there is 100% for 40k.

But maybe you're just shitposting.

>>53045012
That Part when the Marines make Columbine looks like a child's play

I could even see all that blue painting their mess hall.

>>53045147
Bloodletters, man.

>>53045253
Chosen are an elite choice in the CSM codex.

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Which book will you fucking get first?

Reminder that the rules consists of 12 pages and they are at the last segment of each book.

>>53045226
>What the fuck are you talking about

The cool Tau veteran from the novel

>>53045277
So then it doesn't come with any actual Chaos Space Marines and it's all HQ units?

>Khorne is a ascendant in AoS
>Double 40K releases

>Tzeentch makes his move in AoS and gets a slew of content
>40K follows shortly with Tzeench content

>Sigmar realises that humanity in its current state cannot defeat Chaos
>He creates the Stormcast to aid the armies of humanity
>Girlyman realises that the armies of humanity are not enough to defeat Chaos. He creates Giga-marines to fight back Chaos alongside the armies of mankind

>AoS : The Realm of Shadow which is full of Shadowy Elves and Daemons and their Shadow God are hinted at in Season 1 and will be a focus in Season 2 bringing in probably a new army with a shadow theme
>40K : The Shadow King open the door to the Realm of Shadow in the Dark City and his mandrake and shadow fiend minions join other Dark Eldar in the fight against the invading daemons

Does AoS control the direction of 40K?

>>53045259
>But Thunder Warriors are weaker than Space Marines.

No they weren't. Thunder Warriors were better but difficult to mass produce in the numbers needed for a Galactic Crusade. This is literally stated in several sources.

>>53045262
So?
Who cares?

Fuck off with your forgeworld cheese, play real gameswork shop models if you want to play real gamesworkshop games.

>>53045262
No, I was genuinely wrong. Sorry.

>>53044803
Are thunder strike gauntlets posable/separated into fingers and hand? I want to make a knight whose holding a big shield on one side.

>>53045304
>No they weren't.

Yes they were.
Master of Mankind says they were weaker and lacked all the implants of a Marine.

>>53045294
No, it contains

Chaos Lord HQ

Chaos Cultists Troops

Chaos Chosen Elite

Helbrute Elite

>>53045302
INB4 they replace Slaanesh with the shadow king and the race race is shadoi eldarii

>>53044830

Never gets old

>>53045226
>Did we even read the same novel?

There are two novel, you fucking cunt.

"Blades of Damocles" that features Farsight and Shadowsun fighting against Ultramarines.

The other one is "Storm of Damocles" which has OC Tau characters fighting the Deathwatch and White Scars.

Fucking idiot.

>>53045317
It's cool bra. The other guy pretending to be you has been attempting to shitpost this entire thread so I assumed it was him.

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>>53045284
For the mechatits.

>>53045302
>Khorne Daemonkin has been discontinued
>Blades of Khorne has been added to AoS

What did they mean with this?

>>53045302
>>Tzeentch makes his move in AoS and gets a slew of content
>>40K follows shortly with Tzeench content

Magnus and the Thousand Sons stuff predates Disciples of Tzeentch though.

>>53045311
>he doesn't realize those are promo models that could only be gotten from GW stores

>>53045343
Nice fucking slut!

>>53045341
Europeans are making this umbeareable. See you in three hours, when they all go to sleep.

>>53045330
Master of Mankind is dogshit written by a retard.
>muh supreme chaos
>muh Emperor slaying daemon
What the fuck were they thinking letting that chaos-fellating asshole write a book about The Emperor?

>>53045304
Nigga that was never true, and they retconned the book that said that. The other book everyone wanks up with the War Hounds taking casualties against Thunder Warriors defending a position was to show off the reckless fury of the War Hounds from even before they had Angron.

>>53045302
More like GW can't write more than one story at a time.

>>53045345
Nothing.
All the Codices are being discontinued after all, while they are slowly giving each God a book in AoS. It's just a coincidence.

>>53045302
Yes, 40k is now based entirely on AoS. not even joking

>>53045304
>>53045259
The ensuing argument comes down to whether the word of a custode trumps actually seeing thunder warriors fuck up astartes.

>>53045240
Those two are 40k units dude. Forgeworld models if I recall correctly, they released rules for using them in 40k.

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>>53045359
>Silver Towers appeared in AoS
>Suddenly Silver Towers become a thing in 40K and become a major element of the Tzeentchian forces there.

Uh Huh.

>>53045330
thunder warriors were physically tougher and more deadly but didnt work well in formations and went fucking nuts the longer they lived

theres a story of world eaters attacking a ship of old thunder warriors for each thunder warrior that died 4 marines died

>>53045330
BL sure loves to turbo fuck basic lore.

TW where better than marines, but lacked two things the black carapace and mental stability. TW tended to go full psycho.

>>53045374
>Master of Mankind is dogshit written by a retard.

Thunder Warriors being stronger than Marines is dogshit written by a retard.
I don't like MoM much, but at least it fixed that.

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>>53045313
Are you sure we've read the same fricking book?

>>53045332
Hmmm, so would you say it's worth it then?

>>53045420
>What is even the point asshole?

That you are a moron that confused one novel for another. Literally a retard.

>53045394
>trying to bait
I'd be mad if I was another one of these newfags who doesn't know how many cocks you are gargling right now.

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>>53044969

>>53045330
>ADB
>Where the Emperor is a total dick and can't even kill a Daemon
>Black Library
>Canon

I guess Sister of Silence aren't in 40k because Goulding said so :^)

Forge World's HH series says otherwise. Also

>Wrought to be living weapons, the Thunder Warriors were known to be physically stronger, more savage and more potent in combat than the later Astartes, though they were not as long-lived.

>>53045380
What? Literally stated in Horus Heresy Book 1 that Thunder Warriors destroyed World Eaters in combat.

>>53044635
What?

53045425
(You)

Not going to link you. Just letting people know you are just trolling and not respond to this colosal shitposter

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>>53045394
Ya. Fucking GW they invented Silver Towers in AOS and retconned Tzeentch so hard they appeared in 40,00 Epic.

>>53045425
>a small force of warriors hand-made by The Emperor is stronger then an inter-galactic mass produced army
>this is somehow wrong
Quality over quantity. Thunder Warriors had short lifespans, no black carpace and tended to go insane, but the trade off was raw power. Unless i'm wrong they don't have gene-seed, thus each needs to be hand-made from scratch.

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>>53045425
>Thunder Warriors being stronger than Marines is dogshit written by a retard.
lol

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>>53044969
also

>>53045410
Except World Eaters were notorious for having high casualties REGARDLESS of who they fought. So that's not saying much.

>>53045268
Oh shit, I see so many Tzeench armies I forgot those existed, I was just looking at Flesh Hounds. Dropping down ten of those would be cool. Maybe I'll get a SC! Khorne and a SC! Nurgle, for variety. Plagues for armour, Bloodletters for infantry, heralds for smashing shit and scaring ATSKNF-less Astartes off with the Doomsday bell and cavalry for harassing.

>>53045451
>I guess Sister of Silence aren't in 40k because Goulding said so :^)

Goulding's opinion. That was before BL BROUGHT BACK THE SISTERS OF SILENCE FIRST. So eat a dick.

>>Wrought to be living weapons, the Thunder Warriors were known to be physically stronger, more savage and more potent in combat than the later Astartes, though they were not as long-lived.

How would AK the in-verse historian writing the FW books know that? That was before her time and she continuously makes mistakes in her writings about events that she of her era.

While we have Custodes, IIRC, giving an actual opinion but an army that he helped slay.

the generals been going so well today, what happened?

>>53045481
Happy now? You manage to make the cheetahfag respond to your stupidity?

Are you proud of yourself?

>>53045393
Yeah I know now, the other guy corrected me. The armor made it look like a 30k model and I took for granted the guy who posted them just posted in the wrong general.

This makes me think: Are units like Fire Drakes and Pyroclasts allowed in 40k?

>>53045389
>The ensuing argument comes down to whether the word of a custode trumps actually seeing thunder warriors fuck up astartes.

Nope.
For one thing the Custode can talk more generally, thus his opinion has more validity than isolated fights.
Secondly, it's more recent so more canon.

>>53045410
>thunder warriors were physically tougher and more deadly

No, they were weaker, stated in Master of Mankind.

>>53045412
>BL sure loves to turbo fuck basic lore.

But that's not basic lore at all, in fact Black Library were the ones who began TW wank.

>>53045451
>Forge World's HH series says otherwise.

Master of Mankind is more recent.

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>>53044612
>It's 999.M41
>You don't worship Lord Tzeentch

>Tau vs Imperium
>Tau get constant reinforcements despite being a very small race, their plans always work perfectly and everything works out
>Imperium forgoes it's most basic tactics and just attacks them in human waves, Space Marines written as borderline useless
>''I-I-It's fine g-guys! The Imperium has much bigger fish to fry so they can't focus on them, and i-if the Tau lose they get wiped out! T-This loss does nothing to The Imperium''
Weeb ''writers'' should be put to death.

>>53045373
Way to not be a bra.

>>53045373
>implying
It's always when the US wakes that the threads take a dive in quality my man.

>>53045525
>says no
>still comes down to custode opinion vs actual fight

Oh fuck it was Carnac I was arguing with. Fuck, I'm abandoning ship, he'll shitpost forever. There is literally more sources defeating his in-character claim, including an out of character statement.

>53045525
Have a pretend (you)

TW lore comes from before BL stop being retarded

>>53045437
well frankly most of the stuff in the box is cheap as shit on ebay so maybe not.

It's up to you though.

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DEATH GUARD FUCKING WHEN?

>>53045537
>Lmao from the beginning I've said they're both the same novel. Sold in the same god-damned package. It's not my fault you are too retarded to tell one thing from the other.

No, you didn't. We were talking about Storm of Damocles and then you confused it with Blades of Damocles.

Dude, you are a retard. Just go. >>53045033

>>53045570
Summer.

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>>53045536

>last campaign book
>IG land on the planet
>for absolutely NO REASON they start marching across open ground and into a cloud of dust that totally wrecks their communication network and reduces visibility to 5 feet

Can't make this shit up!

>>53045487
>>53045449
Thanks lad.

>>53045523
If they release a datasheet for 40k then yes. As it is now you can play a 40k game with a 30k army if you wish. Unofficially you could also ask the people you usually play with if it's ok with them.

>>53045343
Do we need a new bingo so people stop responding to year old meme question?

>>53045552
Custodes who fought both marines and Thunder Warriors. Custodes are machines more than mind. So it's not an opinion but a factual statement.

>>53045552
The Custode has fought beside and killed many Thunder Warriors and Space Marines. He can say better which is stronger than a couple of fights.
That's ignoring the inherent retcon power of being a latter day novel.

>>53045559
>If I say he's carnac and run away screaming I win!

>>53045580
Let the reatrd shitpost,
He's a waste of time and effort

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>>53045550
>implying

>>53045550
dumb nidleaf poster

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>>53045103

>Inside GW

We are losing sales what can we do ?

We can start by making most requested models by the community and supporting them with updated rules. We can also update old armies that we used to sell like steel legion and pretorians. But most importantly we should lower the pri....

Thats great, thanks for the input.

Here is an idea , why dont we have space marines inside of a space marine ?

We already did that milord.

Oh bugger, how about we make space marines... that are bigger than space marines.

Excellent.
also lets replace rest of the world shipping prices with USD in the webstore so we can earn more

>>53045608
Okay you are trolling now. Good thing you revealed your hand.

>>53045583
It's a fact that Imperial commanders, outside of a few exceptions, are not given their positions out of merit. Their training is lacking and their strategic foundations is flawed. Heck, even the Codex is incredibly flawed to the point that the Tau used it against the marines who followed it blindly.

>>53045561
>TW lore comes from before BL stop being retarded

Thunder warriors did indeed exist before BL, but they were not stronger than Space Marines.

>>53045614
And that Custode never fought the Thunder Warrior. He was a replacement after Unification taken from his mother by Valdor. Again, there are multiple sources.

>Horus Heresy Book 1 (Rulebook trumps BL)
>Tales of Heresy
>The Outcast Dead (this implies the new creations might be Thunder Warriors anyway)
>Collected Visions

That Trumps your in-character opinion of a guy who never fought a Thunder Warrior.

>>53044930
hell yeah, i hope CC warriors and carnifex can come back into the game !

>>53045451
It's funny cause even adb doesn't even try to justify the garbage that is drach'nyen and all the chaos fellating in the book. All he defends is his characterization of The Emperor with
>he's always shown from somebody else's perspective, they see and hear what they want, if i had a chance to show him from somebody like Sanguinius or Malcador's POW you'd see a different side of him
But he doesn't even try to address the bigger issue, at least i haven't come across him doing so.

>>53044612

>not realising they removed the scat limit to sell more jetbikes.

Its like you don't know how much price gouging on these bits of plastic really goes on.

>>53045587
np.

>>53045659
>Tau wank
The idea that the Tau commanders understood the codex and used it against them is why anything featuring the Tau is such drivel. In a game where marines always win in lore, Tau manage to have even more boring lore.

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>>53045570
Why is DG/Nurgle so fucking popular? You really want an army of fat losers with boils and shit on their ugly, drab-ass armor? Is it because that shit is easy to model and paint? I dont get it.

>>53045587
It's also worth noting that by most size comparisons done using the guardsman for scale, these new marines aren't much larger than the old ones, they just don't have that bizarre power squat pose.

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>People still replying to the cheetah-faggot

You're only bringing this on yourself.

>>53045641
>>53045654
Well /hhg/ was prett representative of the population imo, with US anons being pretty bad painters or not painters at all, while the one Canadian and Mexico bros were exquisite. Meanwhile Eurobros were better on average.
I say the fucking leafs and the chicanos are less of a hassle as the burgerlords.

>>53045659
>defending weebshit ''writing''
End yourself. Contrary to what memeing retards want to believe, IG isn't ''human wave tactics'' the army, certainly not the way they've been written against the tau.

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>>53045641
>fucking leaf
the fuck did this meme come from?
When did american swedes outpace ausfags
I mean one of their fucking nick name is one C away from being CanCuck and they fucking act like it

>>53045655
That USD prices was only for the "Rest of Europe" category, which represents very few people. But still, kind of a dick move.

>>53045495
very true but for how blood thirsty and mental they were in hand to hand combat its still a very impressive feat for both sides

>>53045525
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Cerberus_Insurrection
as stated one thunder warrior for 4-5 marines

>>53045328
Thats called a knight lancer

>>53045712
The Codex is just a book. If you can read and understand Sun Tzu then you can understand the codex after a few reads. Heck, it's not even a complex combat teaching and philosophy compared to the Mont'ka and Kauyon. It's just a set of instructions and platitudes that marines slavishly follow.

Thunder Warrior weaker than marines meme
Walkers are not vehicle meme
Why people like Adeptus Mechanicus meme.

Fucking hate this time zone, with the mentally retarded people posting

>>53045655
>GW losing sales

Anon, they're doing better than they have in years right now. Their stock doubled in a year.

>No Fall of Eldar because Reasons
>Great Crusade vs Eldar Empire

Who would win?

>>53045740
They have shite variety. But the concept the adeptus mechanicus was always a favourite of mine.

I wish we had some of the HH admech units, or even just new 40k ones the corprusari, electro priests were awful

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>>53045716

Great aesthetic and can't be killed theme sounds fun when you've played green horde orks for your entire life

Shame that their primarch is a cuck but I hope he gets a nice model

>>53045739
Cadians use human waves. The Imperial tactic in the book was to drown the undermanned Tau garrison with billions of bodies. It was working albeit at a high cost. The Imperials did not foresee the arrival of Farsight and Enclave forces that turned the tides if the war.

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>>53045764
>this is the average xenosfag

>>53045772
Great Crusade if The Emperor is written by anyone other then adb of Phil Kelly.

>>53045570
Right after plastic sisters :^D

>>53045703
ADB is a fucking cunt who didn't realise that ONE book made every faction hate him. Imperium players hated him because it shat on literally everybody, from Guardsmen to Ad Mech to Custodes in how weak they are compared to Chaos. It shat on Xeno's by going "Nids? Necrons? LOL WHO CARES CHAOS WON AS SOON AS MAGNUS BROKE THE WEBWAY! PRAISE TZEENTCH!". It shat on Chaos by going "KHORNE? SLAANESH? NURGLE? NAH BASED TZEENTCH DID IT ALL JUST AS PLANNED LOL! OH AND HORUS? HE WAS A FAGGOT AND WHETHER HE WON OR LOSE CHAOS WON AS SOON AS THE WEBWAY WAS BROKEN! ABADDON WHO? LOL!".

Then he justifies it in his afterword with "lol I'm a Chaos fanboy :^) Not everybody will like this book! LOL 40K IS ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT IMPERIUM DYING LOL!".

>>53045773
Responding to bite.
Old as fuck too.

Please never post here again

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>>53045740
oh hey, i remember you.
it's been a fucking while.
still going on about "MUH FISHTANKS"?
well he's your state provided (you).

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>>53045784
>Great aesthetic

>>53045752
>as stated one thunder warrior for 4-5 marines

1. It's old and is retconned in any case
2. The Thunder Warriors as defenders had the advantage and were fighting the retard Marines

>>53045767
>Thunder Warrior weaker than marines meme

Not a meme, canon.

>>53045813
But I like admech and even bait is a chance to say so. They are a very fluffy force

>>53045799
First off, SM's are my favorite army.
Second, they have this little thing called artillery and tactics, they don't just literally run face-first into enemies with no plan whatsoever.

>>53045805
Suck my ovipositor, human.

t. Genestealer Patriarch

>>53045772
Pre-fall eldar kept DaoT humanity in check. Great crusada ain't shit but hoes and tricks.

>>53044803
GW will send people to your house to beat you up and kill your pets if you don't use a scheme from the box.

>>53045750

Look who is not going to buy anything from gw webstore again and will use chinaman.

Baneblade was 85 pounds, and shipping over 100 was free.

Now it is 140 USD , and shipping over 150 usd is free.

There is almost a 30 USD difference between the prices of the same bloody product.

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>>53045805
Beautiful.

>>53045833
tfw no forceful xenos gf

>>53045825
The fucker will say some stupid shit like marine having more variaty.

>>53044930

I love the Trygon model so much. It is seriously my favorite model in the entire 40k line

I hope they wont get shit in 8th, I still dont have one.

>>53045772
Eldar kick the Imperium's ass while it's small. War over.

>>53044675
STOP ABETTING COMPLACENCY AAAAAAAAAAH

>>53045829
Perhaps, though they aren't exactly tactical geniuses either. Plus, with all the Propoganda the Imperium puts out about how Xenos are stupid and weak and their tech is garbage, that'll cause some fuck ups when Tau are the opposite.

>>53045824
>1. It's old and is retconned in any case

Literally isn't. Black Library does not retcon rulebook fluff. There are also more than one source that prove Thunder Warriors are more powerful. If we follow Black Library, then all Genestealer Cultists have ovipostiors and reproduce by infecting humans with the strand, there is no codex stated DNA changes to make them reproduce with others and give birth to cultists that way.

>>53045859
>when you think the emperor is cool but then you realize he's a fucking roach

>>53045812
What the fuck is GW thinking letting him write this? Do they actually believe Imperium players (you know, just their main customers) play all these warriors and heroes and go ''whelp, it's cool we have all this sacrifice and brotherhood and whatnot, too bad it's all pointless''? I don't understand.

>>53045768

I would have liked to see a comparitive chart on its sales in various regions and various products over the years. That would have been an enlightening view.

I especially would like to see how the sigmarites and dumb kits like lord of skulls are selling .

>>53045773
>tfw ordo reductor more than anything else.
>thallax are lovely
>the resin is lovely
everything is great, just wait for IA tau v admech.
>tfw the greatest weakness of Mechanicum is AA and now we getting AA guns from the skit.
feels fucking good brother
>>53045799
pretty russian tactic but that doesn't win wars, even in ww2, i mean you are throwing away all that good equipment.
against conventional to semi conventional armies like rogue humans minor Xeno powers the guard are very functional but against fucking everyone else they become cannon fodder.
it's weird.
i mean they do have all of this equipment and even human waves require some micromanagement in the face of total planetary and likely system based war.
you don't give them enough credit, for every Commander Chenkov there is a Creed

>"The war is over, Diocletian. Win or lose, Horus has damned us all. Mankind will share in his ignorance until the last man or woman draws the species' last breath. The warp will forever be a cancer in the heart of all humans. The Imperium may last a hundred years, or a thousand, or ten thousand. But it will fall, Diocletian. It will fall. The shining path is lost to us. Now we rage against the dying of the light."
- The Emperor

>"The war is over. Humanity has lost. Warhammer 40k - in all its Gothic, towering, Cylopean, decrepit, doomed, rotting Byzantine majesty - has taken its first irrevocable step."
- ADB, BL Author

>imagine bothering to play as ANY faction other than Chaos

Why are you even bothering?

Why play a game where the setting ending is decided for you? Are you a bunch of cucks?

>>53045259
>inflict 4-to-1 casualties on marines
OK buddy.

>>53045883
When marine lore exist some how new (past 3rd) made them look Anime as fuck.

Super cool Tau pilots are so good that Necron automata pilots woke up to see how cool they where.

>>53045831
Because of the fluff

>>53045896

As long as black library continues spamming 4-5 books every month and people buy it they dont care.

>>53045896
It's not like the 40k lore isn't a ship of Theseus. In the next 10 years shits gonna change again so much that no one knows what is what and what is not.

>>53045918
Oh fuck you're back.

>>53045887
>Literally isn't. Black Library does not retcon rulebook fluff.

It does. HH black library books have primacy over FW HH books. FW HH books follow BL HH books. BL now says TW's a weaker.

>There are also more than one source that prove Thunder Warriors are more powerful.

There actually aren't, only sources that could be read that way.

>>53045920
Catch up with the rest of our discussion please.

>>53045887
>Black Library does not retcon rulebook fluff.

It does if it is FW. FW HH books are written as inverse documents by a character whose name initials are AK. Making everything in the books appear dubious especially when she makes mistakes like not knowing why Alpha turned and not knowing what Magnus actually did.

>>53045768

No they're not. Sales have been constantly dropping year on year, the profit still remains high though and last year it increased but this was likely a result of an undervalued Pound making exports very profitable for them.

If everything was peachy at GW AoS would never have been a thing and 8th edition would have just been 4.4th edition.

>>53045859
>before /pol/
>after /pol/

>>53045918
>thinking i care about he story
WEW
E E
WEW

>>53045918
I don't understand what the fuck were they thinking publishing this.

>>53045920
That doesn't count apparently! This single in-character who has never fought Thunder Warriors in a single book on a single sentence trumps the multiple other, including rulebook stated fluff!

>>53045896
I have no fucking idea. It's baffling. To make it worse he was allowed to make ANOTHER "Totally unknown but super important to the plot" character with a Daemon so powerful that even the fucking Emperor (you know, fluff stated to be killing the Chaos Gods in Vengeful Spirit I think and the most powerful psyker ever) can't kill it AND is somehow able to kill SoS without trouble AND can possess Warlord Titans AND is actually the Sword Abaddon gets AND nearly kills the Emperor and so on.

>>53045918

Emperor would never say such a thing, if he truly believed that he would have said fuck it and never would have bothered to get his ass fried in 10 thousand years of torment that is the undeath of the golden throne.

Some authors show such a huge misunderstanding of the setting and characters that it even makes the works of cs.goto half decent in comparison.

>>53045925
No worse than other writing from GW. The problem is that they don't know how to write a weaker force winning in a clever way, and just rely on plot armor for it.

It's the same way they have other armies fight Tyranids

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>>53045760
Ah interesting. Specifically though I meant a pose more like this.

>>53045772
Pre-fall Eldar = Dark Eldar?

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>people still reply to Carnac and his shitposting which will change depending on his mood.

After all, MoM was clearly a cash grab raping the setting... Wait....

>>53045918
>"It is human nature to seek culpability in a time of tragedy. It is a sign of strength to cry out against fate, rather than to bow one's head and succumb."
From our man Gabriel Angelos.

Cucks would be the one that surrender. True heroes are the ones that keep fighting no matter what, you filthy heretic.

>>53045993
Not exactly, but kinda close

>>53045998
But what the hell do they accomplish with this? Ruin the most important character in the setting?

>>53045918
Because after the end there is a new beginning. Did AoS teach you nothing?

The guys in WHFB End Times knew that they were going to lose but they fought on anyways because see

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaS5Zb8Auqs

>>53045960
AoS happened under Kirby, I'm willing to bet GW is doing much much better now under Rountree

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One thing I've noticed about the Warhammer universe is an extreme lack of fanart

The lore is amazing, but there just doesn't seem to be that much imagery to go with it. I think it's a real shame

>>53045985
Yea you could do that with the gauntlet, just slice the fingers to bend them.

Though unless you just really want that pose or dont mind not being wysiwyg, dont tank the gauntlet as a weapon. Its really bad and cost extra to take.

>>53046016
Why isn't he noticeably taller then them?

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>>53045960

New social media approach confirms that they have to resort to popularist tactics to make the cash flow again. And it is working.
Have you realized that people dont bitch about the prices of the products as much as they did back in the day? Now they share duncan memes , harass gw guys in facebook and get excited and angry at the same time about all the edition and lore changes.

The excitement wave will soon die down and the real problems will continue to show themselves again.

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>>53045977
Come again?
i don't see any square models in the range
perhaps you should point to what models look like that.
in fact all 3 admech ranges, including mechanicum, admech and skit

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>>53046008
Because it's ADB niggah

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>>53046016

there's literally hundreds of thousands of fan art pieces out there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCGB81DBzOc

>>53046016
>Lack of fanart
Nigger are you for real?
Between the actual fan arts and the paid artists composition, Warhammer has a MASSIVE gallery of art to choose from.

>>53046016

You are new arent you? There are mountain piles of fanart. Lurk moar.

>>53046043

>this nigga made the entire Night Lords and Word Bearers legions cry

How will he make the entire Black Legion cry?

>>53046043
He still needs to be approved and published.

>>53046029

Pretty much. GW only changes things and picks the hard option when there is no other option. Spending money on updating social media accounts, engaging with the community and actually putting some effort in again is a sign that everything else failed to work.

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>>53046016
>lack of fanart

You what? Check the number. That's just SoB my man. And I didn't save the new works by this guy so it's prob more.

>>53045979
Never fought?

>The warriors closest to the Emperor – a mere thirty souls with Sagittarus among them – wore layered, precious auramite gold, reflecting the warlord’s own wargear. In the years to follow, their trappings would become cloaked in red and bulked by additional plating, but as they stood at Maulland Sen they wore half-suits of sacred gold, and the men themselves were a jewel at the army’s vanguard, guarding their master. Their war banner was the eagle’s head of their royal lord crossed by four bolts of lightning.

>Beyond the Custodians were the ranks of the proto-legionaries in their grim, battered plate. Thunder Warriors. Even then Sagittarus had known what fate these soldiers of Unity would face. Their place was here and their time was now: they would be the conquerors of Terra… and then they would be discarded. Their armour was destined to stand in rows within the Emperor’s private chambers and various war museums across Terra, and their deeds would be recorded in rich detail throughout Imperial archives.

>But far finer soldiers would be required to take the Emperor’s war into the stars. Sagittarus, fallen yet not allowed to die, would be one of the many to spill Thunder Warrior blood.

If the Custodes dude didn't fight Thunder Warriors, then HOW THE FUCK DID HE SPILL THEIR BLOOD? Checkmate.

>>53046002
God damn I'm so pissed that they replaced Paul Dobson and gave us a shitty game for DoW3. That speech from 2 was god tier

ADB may be a beta male cuck, but at least he fixed Thunder Warriors being stronger than Space Marines. That never made any sense.

>>53046029
>>53046066
What? They used to have Social Media accounts under fucking Kirby you dumb fucks, but he shut it down because "paying for it was useless and people just moaned" or some shit. I have an email basically saying that management decided it wasn't in their interests or something. I went looking for it during typing but I can't find it.

>>53046072
not him but I believe that was a pyschic flashback, he also viewed the Emperor killing somebody when he was a kid, didn't mean he was there, lad.

>>53046085

Dawn of War III aka. Warhammercraft 3 is not my game. It is a SCII clone and probably made by Blizzard fans. Hammers and Bolters, not macro management, okay.

>>53046100

How did he fix that when in that one HH book a Thunder Warrior was pushing in the shit of an entire squad of space marines?

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>>53046058
Which robots
>humanoid
are you referring to the thanatar, the Castilanx, the domitar, the Kastilian, Scoria's pet bot, the Iron-domitar? all of the above?
one way or another they do not resemble a fish tank which is square compared to their very rounded designs
>arachnid
sorry boss, they don't have no robots spiders
try again

>>53045451
>world eaters
The argument was thunder warriors vs real marines, not faggots

>>53045736
T. A fucking leaf

>>53044930
Paint your stuff before picking up anymore.
Or atleast prime them.

So remember when Age of Sigmar came out and some people said it would happen to 40k next and you all screamed that Games Workshop would never do that to their most popular I.P.

How does it feel knowing your game is destroyed forever and all the money you spent worthless ?

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>>53046016
>lack of fanart
I literally have almost 200 pics of the most obscure and secretive of the factions, and therefore probably the one with the least fanart

You may like or not like the pic, but the fact is the fact, warhammer 40k has tons of art, be it official or fanmade.

>>53046101
That was RAAAAAA that viewed the Emperor killing his uncle. This Custodes was actually there in the unification . This Custodes fought and killed the Thunder Warriors.

Also here is more.

>Sagittarus watched the disorganised tide of soldiers making their way up the inclines. Their chaotic advance was as far from the implacable order of the Legiones Astartes as could be imagined. Nor could they rely on the same arsenal of biological enhancements implanted within the true Space Marines. These hordes were a force to crush the techno-savages of the Unification Wars, no doubt, but against the alien breeds of the galaxy? The Thunder Warriors would have been annihilated.

>>53046110
I just wanted a good single player game ;_;

>>53046101

How the fuck does your statement in anyway contradict mine?

>>53046072
Now quote the bit where it says they were weaker, because all other sources state otherwise, as that quote says 'finer' which is a nebulous description. Thunder Warriors have always been stronger but tougher, but not immortal (again this is stated in a post-MoM book, Book 7 of Horus Heresy, so that not only is newer and trumps MoM but is yet ANOTHER source which beats yours).

Nice try, Carnac, but you lost... AGAIN.

>>53046116
What? How are they not 'real marines'? Legion Astartes, nigger. Don't play that fucking card.

Daily reminder the new leadership phase will ruin Tyranids and Orks

>"too many armies ignored the Ld phase"
>expecting GW to keep synapse or introduce a new mob rule to compensate

Cruddance is in charge here so you're automatically wrong.

>>53046112
>How did he fix that

He wrote a book saying Thunder Warriors were weaker than Space Marines.

>>53045746
Because they couldnt handle /int/ and /pol/ bullying so they take it out on the rest of the site
When almost every board had flags on April 1st it was always the leafs shitposting the hardest

>>53046137
Because the meme "they need social media cuz failing sales LOL" has been around for fucking ages before they brought it back... Which obviously wasn't helping or they wouldn't have canned it.

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Would you snuggle a zoanthrope

>>53046135
Why did the emperor kill the Thunder Warriors rather than giving them a different position? Kind of a dick thing to do to the people who pledged loyalty and fought your war for you

>>53046112
Today we saw the birth of a new meme.

Thanks BL for another craptastic fluff rape

>>53046148
>nids shit again
It still hurts
whats one more edition of being a steaming pile of diseased sputum

Does this Soundtrack fit to the Imperium?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFhM1ayTsqE

>>53046144
What the hell are you talking about? I was showing the guy was confusing one Custodes another.

Also see the follow up.>>53046135

FW sources are automatically discarded

>>53046171
they had a finite time to live normally speaking
marines didn't
also if i'm not mistaken they were biologically unstable

>>53046174
They did rape the fluff when they said Thunder Warriors were stronger than Space Marines, but we have to give them credit for fixing their mistakes at least.

>>53045513
blacked and one of the cheetah fags banned.

have you guys seen this? its pretty good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1D4jr-0_COg

>>53045746
/int/ Aussie posters made fun of Canadians for having a leaf flag. They posted it under every Canadian flag >a leaf Soon it spread to /pol/ and other boards and Canadians responded with shit posting and then it just became a thing to shit post under a Canadian flag.

I remember it well.

>>53046163

Well they've only brought it back once so I don't think it can be a meme.

They wanted an online presence, people inevitably gave them a piece of their mind, Kirby shit the bed at the bad advertisement and shut it down. Now that sales continue to drop they've decided to roll their sleeves up and bite the bullet since they need an online presence and they've basically made each FB group a 'safe space' so they can ban any faggot who disagrees that everything is peachy.

>>53046171
They were psychotic and not the obedient lapdogs the astartes/custodes were made to me.

>>53046100
>That never made any sense.
Why not? Other then a-bloo-bloo-boo muh mahraines aint the bestest ever.

>>53046135
But wasn't Earth also supposed to be more terrifying then anything they ran into until the Heresy? I mean wasn't one guy summoning armies of plaguebearers and the like, isn't that a little worse then the average alien?

>>53046136

I would invest in a time machine to get back to the early 00's then.

>>53046224
Then how come the Emperor kept the World Eaters and Night Lords around?

>>53046184
Cruddance has ruined 3 Tyranid editions in a row now.

But this time he did it in the core rules . it's quite a feat.

>>53046131
Are you retarded? Or just pretending?

>>53046234
No.

The Xenos breeds of the galaxy are much tougher and deadlier which is why the Thunder Warriors would be destroyed fighting them.

>>53046110
It was fun watching Total biscuit basically compare every aspect of the game to Star Craft because they blatantly copied it.

>>53045883
No guardsman who is a veteran of more than one war actually believes the propaganda the Imperium puts out about how all xenos are pushovers and the Imperial Munitorium never fucks up. Once you rate anything higher than a company commander you're going to know at least a little but about how war with xenos actually turns out most of the time.

>>53046261
Anon dont feed the shit posters

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>>53046202
>Most fish-tanks are circular or spherical.
Nah nigga those be Fish BOWLs, don't think them use them anymore.

>except for the dune crawler which is a mix of fish-tanks and the amorphous mass of cogs.
>no cogs on the model
>not even rectangular or spherical
>you refereed to it as an 8 legged invertebrate.
how can on man be so bad at this?

>>53046234
>Why not?

They were made with worse technology to fight smaller wars in a place that was essentially home territory. Makes no sense for them to be more powerful.

>Other then a-bloo-bloo-boo muh mahraines aint the bestest ever.

This is you projecting. I have no problem with Space Marines being the most powerful. I can admit that Custodes are stronger. I can admit the new guys are stronger.

But you seem to have a real bug up your butt about Thunder Warrior power levels.

>>53046131
Age of 40k just made min squads of Eldar and Space Marines better so it doesn't really change anything.

>>53045716
Nurgle is best god tho, he's a fat disgusting loser that taunts and torments some elf babe all day. Literally /tg/'s guy

>>53046288
dude but it's fun

>thunder warriors are stronger than space marines
>space marines are stronger than thunder warriors
Why is this even an issue

>>53045812
>>53045896
Master of Mankind was fine. 40k is about raging against the dying of the light. Things should feel doomed and hopeless.

There still might be a way to defeat Chais anyway. The Emperor was wrong about things before.

>>53046319
You're the one who had to be autistic about it. He's just good at his job.

He's gonna die soon anyways, what do you care?

>morale is model based not percentage based
Oh boy more space marine buffs, I can't wait for horde armies to be fucking squatted completely fuck those guys

>>53046330
Thunder Warrior fags won't shut up about the new Marines being Thunder Warriors despite the new Marines being stronger than Space Marines.

>>53046319

> Ladies and Gentlemen.

Seriously though, DoWIII is a big let down. If I wanted to play a game like SCII I would just play SCII which has 5 years of added content now.

I can't even say it looks nice because it doesn't.

>>53046353
They specifically said too many armies ignore the Ld. Phase so Tyranids will never get Synapse and Orks mob rule will probably be shit.

>>53046353
>Space Marines lose ATSKNF
>Buff

>>53046357
Why the fuck would the numarines be thunder warriors? They're space marines. Thunder warriors don't even have black carapace. They're two different kinds of soldiers, strength has nothing to do with it
It's as stupid as saying they must be ogryn because they're big.

>>53046331
>40k is about raging against the dying of the light
40k is about a genuine messiah being lost as he was about to lead humanity into a permanent golden age, struck down by his own humanity and the subtle machinations of the chaos gods. THAT'S what made it depressing, that we had an actual chance at something good and we still fucked it up.
If said mesiah just goes ''welp, we're fucked'' it just turns into edgy shit. Not to mention the whole ''Emperor dares not face the chaos gods when the whole point was that they had to subtly undermine him because he was more powerful then them''. Fuck adb.

>>53046381
Compared to fucking horde armies?

>>53046331
>The Emperor was wrong about anything ever
This is a good way to upset a lot of people

>>53046386
I didn't say Thunder Warrior fags were very smart.

>>53046331
>Things should feel doomed and hopeless
Nah. If it's flat out stated by the supreme being of one side that they lost, it just becomes pointless.

>>53046381

They'll have ATSKNF, it'll be a moral re-roll or something.

>>53046395
Allegedly horde armies are the hotness in AoS, which 8th is basically copying 80% of it's rules from.

>>53046381
Where is the source on them losing atsknf?

>>53046160
>Because they couldnt handle /int/ and /pol/ bullying
Oh please, we find it hilarious how much our flag buttblasts yanks.

>>53046002
My nigga, I will follow Celestines majestic ass to the gates of oblivion.

>Lashwhips set to be the go-to Tyranid melee biomorph AGAIN

Man Whips look so shitty on warriors / Tyrant guard.

Why can't double bone-swords ever be useful? hopefully they give that shit a reason to exist

>>53046394
If the Emperor was stronger than the Chaos Gods why were their battles? If the Emperor was already stronger than all four Chaos Gods why does he need to create a safe alternative to Warp Travel when he's already stronger than the four threats in the Warp?

Why was their fights of any kind, why did he not simply reverse time to undo any incident ever or simply remove the existence of non-human life from the galaxy.

I'm honesty interested in this, if the Emperor is stronger than all four Chaos Gods, I can't really figure out how anything which plays out in the plot plays out as it did.

>>53046425
All the special rules are going out the window and replaced with "keywords". I'm guessing they're gonna get a replacement though.

>>53046395
Yes. It can't be a buff if they lose a good rule.
Space Marines weren't damaged by morale much before, now they are.

>>53046425
Morale post. They say very few units aren't going to suffer from battle shock.

>>53046421
Don't know how that's gonna work when mob rule in AoS doesn't work in 40k as well at all.

They specifically say too many armies ignore Ld. So snypase fearless is gone.

Guard might be.

>>53046442
> If the Emperor was already stronger than all four Chaos Gods why does he need to create a safe alternative to Warp Travel when he's already stronger than the four threats in the Warp?
Because lolADB

>>53046375
Yeah a lot of armies ignored it because it made sense - marines don't just turn tail and run and Tyranids have no fear. There were REASONS they ignored it, and making everyone super succeptible for no reason other than "balance" is super dumb.

>>53046394
No, it was about eternal war.

And you missed the point. The Emperor depression comes from the fact that path to peace is forever lost to mankind. What remains in the future of mankind is war and the laughter of thirsting gods. The Emperor will fight on regardless not out of hope but because it's his sacred duty but he is not dreading what will happen to humanity when he eventually struck down in the long war.

Your problem is wanting the Emperor be all powerful and perfect. Sorry, he isn't Jesus or Muhammad. He is just a man and a flawed bastard of a man.

>>53046456
>very few units won't suffer from battleshock

Where were you when the Tyranids player was losing ENTIRE SQUADS per Ld phase.

I'll shed a tear for the marine player who lost 5 dudes per GAME though since they don't have ATSKNF

>>53046409
A supreme being that was proven wrong so many times.

The Emperor did not factor in Ynnead, Necrons. the Beast reborn, and the Tyranids in the picture.

>>53046456
Marines will likely be one of those units. That doesn't prove anything. Either way if they aren't immune they'll probably have some sort of rule regarding it.

>>53046466
Theres immune to battleshock units in sigmar
They will have them in 40k too

after GW does all of their death guard fluff, who would you like to see make a come back as a real threat to humanity?

pro tip the only true answer is orks

>>53046465
Well thank goodness for ADB then. Since otherwise we wouldn't have a Warhammer game cause the game and story would just be; 'then one day the Emperor won forever and nothing else ever happened'

>>53046466
It's not about balance.

It's about Fantasy sold more units after it got Sigmared. That's it. Nothing more.

What do I do for a 750 point army of deathwatch and a 1000 point army?

>>53046510
Won't happen. Xenos can't win stuff, ever. Fact.

And even Chaos will only ever be a threat for brief instances before the Imperium curbstomps them into the floor.

>>53045716
anything over generic looking Khorne daemons, I'm more of a Tzeetch guy myself but even Nurgle is better

>>53046504
>Marines will likely be one of those units.

Marines are an army, not a unit.
I don't think every space marine unit counts as very few units.

>>53046510
Orks are shitty comedy relief npcs

>>53046473
be he is dreading*

The thing that worries me most about battleshock is that it seems kinda hard to integrate pinning into the new system.

>>53046526
This.

Fuck having Orks or Nids win. Shitty fucking NPC races with their "DURR WE ALWAYS WIN AT THE END XDDD" bullshit.

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>we thought the leadership tests were slowing down the game
>even though loads of models were immune to it ignoresld it or had ways around it
>so instead we'll make it so EVERYONE has to take leadership on EVERYTHING in EVERY TURN!
>this will result in more streamlined gameplay

>>53046504
They say units specifically, not factions. Units.

>>53046509
Again singular units.

>>53046542
All Xenos are shitty NPC's. Eldar are shitty sidekick NPC's who die to make the Protag look cool, Orks are comedic Loser NPC enemies, Necron are slightly intimidating enemy NPC's, Nids are mindless kill-them-by-the-billions flavourless NPCS and Tau are NPC's no-one cares about.

>>53046526
>>53046553
i didnt say win i just said real threat
of course the imperium of man wont lose, space marines fill GWs pockets with money

>>53046553
To be fair other than the Imperium that's all factions. Which..wait...actually no that makes perfact sense.

Everyones so pessimistic already. How do you people live?

>>53046556
Nothing about Age of Girlyman is about making the game more balanced and streamlined

It's only because Fantasy sold more units after being Sigmared. They expect the same thing to happen to 40k as well, and it probably will because all AoS fans care about are fancy shiny big models. They're fucking crows.

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>>53045262
Those two are fake you retards. Those aren't real datasheets in either 40k OR 30k.

>>53046510
Would be nice to see the universe turn into a shit show of grudge matches. A hive fleet shows up to wipe out the Aeldari, tau start beefing with someone, orks and chaos go at it in the most brutal/pointless conflict of all time, the guard break out in civil war, Gulliman declares war on the ecclesiarchy and shit goes down

>>53046587
Most of them don't actually play the game.

I'm fucking stoked for these changes.

>>53046587
I'm pretty optimistic, even the TWfags have shut up.

>>53046572
Aren't Space Marines the best faction though? Come on man they're awesome

>>53046587
Where do you think you are?

>>53046572
Kinda hard to be a threat if you never win. Just ask Ghazghkull, he's been trying to be a 'threat' for ages but never gets it right cause he loses every single time he fights Marines.

>>53046556
If everything else is streamlined, it's still a net gain.

>>53046600
t. Shitposting Slav.

>>53046587
Nigger this is 40k general and we are pessimistic about the next edition of 40k
Personally I'm happy as a clam because I just bought Steel Division: Normandy 44
BUT THAT DOESNT CHANGE THE FACT THAT I DISLIKE THE CHANGE IN 8TH

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>>53044612
>morale phase
>lose models for no reason after a turn
>people think this is a good idea
Can't wait to never use the phase due to house ruling it out of the question. What's the next phase to be revealed?

>>53046556
>Tyranids are going to be subject to morale
Dropped. Say goodbye to my money GW.

>>53046615
I play the game. I play arguably the worst faction after playing and selling my OP Tau.

They somehow made it all fucking worse because they're fucking idiots. I'm probably going to choose to play 7th edition. Fuck GW.

>>53046187
No they're not, because HH Book 7 came out after MoM and says that Thunder Warriors were more powerful. Keep trying man. But you win either way, if we continue arguing, you win, if we stop, you claim victory and if you stop arguing cause you get BTFO, you claim we are shitposting. So what's the point?

>>53046653
Lore phase :^)

>>53046572
Eh, its hard to take anything as a threat seriously. I mean Marneus has beat Angg'arath, Ghazgh loses to Marines constantly, Eldrad got out-predicted by some Deathwatch captian.

When everyones so hilariously weak and pathetic compared to the Marines kinda hard to take anything seriously. Any problem or threat inevitably just gets stopped or downplayed cause of some Marine-related stuff.

>>53046676
>have to call back to the horus heresy or BL novels to check if your army has done such a thing before doing an attack or movement

>>53046653
If you had read the article, you would have seen that it was the last phase to be run through. Nothing anyone cares about will be posted until Friday.

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>>53046623
ok fine next enemy of the imperium you think should get more attention and new models

>>53046689
>STREAMLINED

>>53046440
Buy a box of 'thropes, make them all Zoans, use the tons of extra lashwhips from the Venomthrope sprues on your other bugs. Easy fix.

I'm more concerned about making sure rending claws and scything talons are good.

Of course this is all a moot point if synapse doesn't completely cancel battleshock because there's no way I'm ever removing a fucking tyranid from a morale test.

>>53046691
>If you had read the article
I did read the article, fammo.
> last phase to be run through
That doesn't change at all what I said. You still lose additional models for no reason before you finish your turn.
>tyranid <units> die
>roll d6 and roll higher than leadership
>"sorry anon, you have to remove those models from the game"
>"they died too"

>>53046684
To be fair Eldrad didn't get out predicted. The Captain never played "just as planned!" with Eldrad. Eldrad saw the Captain with a stasis bomb ad due to sheer arrogance, which Eldrad has a problem with, thought it was impossible.

It was a decent piece of Lore desu Eldrad defeated himself

>>53046707
Dark Eldar

>>53046707
Cults
Conversion, monopose, or 3rd party is pretty much mandatory for cultists. Yet, they are supposed to be a core unit for some chaos armies. Unacceptable. And I don't even play chaos.

Anyone else hoping that Space Wolves with Jump Packs and Bikes will be a viable option in 8th?

>>53046707
Chaos.
After Chaos is done I'd like to see Necrons, they have the most potential of the xenos.

>>53046440
Boneswords are probably gonna be -2 Rend and deal d3 Mortal wounds or something like that.

>>53046653
>house ruling the moral phase out

Only way to play Nids now. No more synapse means they lose entire squads.

>>53046707
Honestly just drop them at this stage. Xenos already are starting to feel way too tacked on, either just showing up to die so Chaos can go all 'It was us all along' or dying to go 'Imperium, we've sacrificed ourselves so you can do something cool' there's little to no actual agency in Xenos anymore, they're just vessels for showing off the Imperium/Chaos or advancing an Imperium/Chaos characters agency.

I say put them down and let them rest, HH kinda already shows Power Armour v Power Armour is probably what the majority want.

>>53046737
I would KILL SOMEONE to get Plastic Incubi.

>>53046739
We've seen super Marines with jump packs, so you will atleast have those.

>>53046357
No we didn't. Quote it right now, somebody said they were LIKE Thunder Warriors, not they were.

>>53046386
You're talking to the resident shitposter, anon. Go to Archive and search "Carnac".

>>53046187
By the way, the quote doesn't state anywhere they were better. They were 'finer' which was true, but not in strength or toughness, which was the argument right from the start. Somebody even quoted it to you. Space Marines were always more disciplined and used brotherhood and shit.

>>53046742
>Chaos.
chaos is already getting new stuff
or do you mean non nurgle stuff

>>53046731
Anon the last part of your post was
>What's the next phase to be revealed
And anon answered with correctly that they've covered all the phases

>>53046763
>rend value
>mortal wounds
U wot

>>53046736
Right cause its decent cause a non-Marine character of ancient standing and great wisdom was totally trounced.

Anyway the White Dwarf actually literally stated that Eldrad's plan failed due to the 'near-presience' of Captain Artemis. So yeah, they literally credit Artemis' 'near-presience' with defeating Eldrad.

>>53046731
They didn't die they ran away... We dont even know how this will affect tyranids or if they will have synapse. Just because the fucking article alludes to too many things being unaffected by morale last edition doesnt mean they are removing every fucking rule that could give bonuses to morale.
>>53046765
Where in the article does it say synapse is gone?

>>53046777
Chaos has been getting new shit. Or did October-January not happen? I'm straight fucking tired of the Chaos wank. And they're getting more with DG coming out.

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>yfw the morale phase only exists to make games go faster due to models dropping like flies
They added the phase because they're fully expecting newer players to have the attention span of a toddler

>>53046777
Yes. We should get stuff for the Legions, see what they're up too now that they can run rampant along the whole galaxy.
Xenos should take a backseat.

>>53046765
Oh really? Im sure you've backed this claim up with extensive play testing under the new unreleased rules.

>>53046789
Go look over the previous announced articles

>>53046707
I wouldn't mind seeing Exodite Eldar eventually. Though they'd probably just be more people to get killed by Chaos and Marines.

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>>53046789
>he doesn't know

Oh you poor soul. Anon i don't know how to tell you this...