Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

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>I play Chaos Space Marines

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That is all

>>53039682
American as in USAfags?

Because I'm American but not from the USA.

Also Dark Angels are just a gay joke

>>53039717
this shitpost could maybe squeeze a few more drops out if someone shooped nork dedog's face on the dude and a SoB's on the chick

>>53039712
failing to see what chaos did wrong desu

>>53039736
>a fucking leaf

>>53039748
he could also be mexican, or from one of many countries in south america

>>53039771
>a fucking spic

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>>53039747
>failing to see what chaos did wrong desu

1st for "We told Gav the Emperor wanted him to lie on the floor and the madman did it"

>>53039748
>America
>Just Canada and the USA
>Missing more than 1/3 of the continent

Nice basic education you got there. What next? Math is hard ?

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>>53039712
>I play Space Marines

>>53039792
>implying the non-white countries are even worth mentioning

>>53039807
France? Or you mean the rest of the west getting overrun by sand terrorist?

Also thanks for ruining the thread from the start with your retarded posting

>>53039792
I didn't know they sold warhammer to subhumans

>>53039792
You're either american, canadian, or some kind of sub human animal
Thats it

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>8th rules are going to be 12 pages
>units will have their own movement and a bunch of other autistic shit to remember

oh god what the fuck are they doing. if they're actually streamlining it and the rules are only 12 pages, then the individual unit rules are going to be generic as fuck and dumbed down too since it would be counterproductive to streamline the rules but then make the units complex. which means 40k has literally no complexity now, they went from one extreme to another.

they literally did it. they elder scrolls'd warhammer 40k. god fucking dammit. this shit is officially a kiddie game for CoD tier retards.

>>53039822
Europe has warhammer hell they made it. I don't see your point.

I sure am glad people are talking about 40K in this general,for a moment there I was sure it was going to become a thread entirely devoted to /pol/flake shitposting.

>>53039795
Legit feel bad that someone is that pathetic on the inside and out

>>53039832
Age of Sigmar has 4 pages, effectively 2.

This makes 40k 6 times as complex as Age of Sigmar.

There's a lot of potential in 12 pages, I'm giving it a chance.

Really not happy about armor facings going away, though.

>>53039832
Go back to 1d4ddit

>>53039832
Play 7th you grog'
I might even play 40k if the rules are anything like AoS's

USAfaga ruined another thread.

We need the banners from /pol/ so we can actually know what country has the worst shitposters

>>53039712
I originally wanted to play either nids or orks, but it was in the middle of 6th and I had no idea how shit works so I saw dark vengeance in the store and thought "starter set? that must be what you buy to begin". started painting the chaos dudes and reading up on them and realized all dat sweet customization, fell in love with the legion memes, chaos gods, sorcery, etc. and now I am chainsword deep in the heresy. I actually didn't think I would want to play CSM at all, at first they seemed like just some edgy space marines but now they are my favorite faction. so I got pushed into CSM by sorta happenstance and just bought more models to add to my dark vengeance chaos.

>>53039860
>inb4 the words are just 6 times larger

>>53039832
welp we don't know as yet. but they have said that unit will get more in the way of special rules while doing away with USRs for the most part (in the adepticon article)

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>>53039712
>>53039795
>We shitpost about armies

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>>53039856
They're actually building a /pol/ off topic board partly because of the overflow. It's gotten very popular lately.

Besides, /pol/ is essentially a bunch of people complaining about how society at large is devolving into shit, what if there was a board for people who complained about /pol/'s shitposting?

>>53039917
>They have to PAY for Bolters!

Does your army have fluff or is it just a generic WAAC faggots army?

What is your army fluff?

>new orders
>overcharged lasguns
>S3 AP-1 gets hot until end of turn
thoughts?

>>53039922
That already exists you mong. It's called /leftypol/
and it's cancer

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I'm getting old and jaded.

At least we got reminded of Gav and Bob. Back when /tg/ was just partially shit

help me out fellahs, i saw my first genestealer cult army playing, the guy had these real muscular models holding sledghammers and such, but im browsing the gw store and arent seeing them. anyone have any ideas?

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>replying to shitposters

Alright anons show me your army. DO IT NOW

>>53039988
i miss when frog posting was still funny :(

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>>53039970
sounds about right to me

>>53039995
Nice outdated rules, faggot. Go back to >>>/qa/

>>53039999
Sarcuck ruined pepe and kekism.

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Does the Emperor approve of straight shota?

>>53039965
I have two fluffs.

The bulky armour is due to my SoB not being that and just some Inquisitor personal army (Battle Harem)
The other is that the Canoness won a Tarot game with a Magos, and the salty loser supplies the order with bulky armour. Resulting in the Inquistion getting called about men under arms, arriving there just to see annoyed Sisters in bulky armour.

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>>53039995
What I am currently working on for a 1500 point event.

Not sure what to do with the remaining 25
>>53040020
I actually like sargon, what do you not like about him?

>>53039965
Ork Badmoonz stuck on Armageddon, currently converting a Maxmini Wartrakk into my Mad Doks mobile medical station, and a squad of 20 Cybork Bikers with Kromlechs cyber wheels and Cybork arm bits as his retinue of Frankensteins.

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>>53040020
he says he doesn't even like image boards and has never been on 4chan, talk about cultural appropriation, he's really just a normie
>although he did say he played 40k as a youngling which is cool

>>53040023
>shota
>with xenos
Double heresy
>>53040028
Pretty good. I would add a couple extra bolter bikes to take hits for your grav--gunners.

>>53039995
Putting together some Rubricae, still waiting for paint delivery to arrive.
Hopefully I won't do terribly on my first go

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>>53040026
Can I take a wild guess and say you used the dreamforge models for SoB?
>>53039995
Here's what hasn't been put into dettol yet.

>>53040028
>1500
Alri grandad

>>53039988
This image made me sad.
>I will always feel like it's 2011 but the world has moved on

>>53039992
Acolytes or some shit, you get them in Deathwatch Overkill/from Ebay.

>>53040023
>xenos

>>53039826
Well you're playing an animals game then, what's your excuse?

>>53040079
Indeed. Mostly because I didn't want resin recast and I got tired of metal models.

>>53040028
moderates get shit on by both sides of the spectrum, half the people say he's too far right and the other half says he's too far left, everyone at my LGS is very far right or left, I'm down the middle so i just keep my mouth shut about politics unless I'm looking to get in a fight
>tfw the marxist and confessed "alt righter" actually play the same army and get along

>>53040028
Sargon's the definition of a redditor who comes to 4/8 chan, takes jokes and images to parrot to his tard friends and audience and brags about going there. Fox news and people like him are the reason this place is such shit

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>>53040061
Forgot the pic

Is there music in the 40k universe that isn't just imperial marching songs?

What do the citizens listen to?

>>53040080
Not sure of the meme here, there's a con and it's 1500 cad only
>>53040059
Not a bad idea, hadn't thought of that.
>53040048
no (you) for you
>>53040096
>>53040100
Ah, I hadn't thought of it that way. I've always lurked on other boards and just have always assumed "it's gotten so much worse" is just a meme.

We're, in this moment, at the good old days from 2 years from now probably

>>53039999
>quads
fear not for kek has not forgotten you my son

>>53040106
Imperial marching songs at max volume constantly

Are all 40k generals usually this /pol/faggy?

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>>53040106
I always imagined contemporary Imperial music to be Gothic chants and shit. You know, like that one track from DoW1.

But then it's a big place so reasonably we can only assume that somewhere someone is listening to [your favorite genre].

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>>53040106
they listen to the words of the holy emperor

>>53039965
A sorcerer from the Black Legion is recruiting rag-tag units from around the warp and realspace to bolster the warmasters forces, it's how I fluff running both Slaanesh and Khorne. I also have two plotlines for the warbands chaos lord to follow (for larger games he either goes Slaanesh or Khorne builds and gets an extra 50odd points of cool shit)
The sorcerer also has an "ascended" more expensive form and I'll eventually buy a DP model for him as the last model to put in this army, his reward for succeeding in the eyes of the warmaster and the pantheon

>>53040138
it was fine a minute ago, then american shitposters woke up

>>53040122
It's kind of a meme, as in "/b/ has always been shit." But the issue is sheer volume of users. Over time imageboard culture has been worn away as we're outnumbered by newfags who refuse to integrate. In essence, 4chan has always been shit, but it keeps getting shittier

>>53040138
Only when USAfags are around.

>>53040142
I like to think it is like modern music, but with more Emperor in the lyrics. Like for example Christian pop or rock.

>>53040088
I'd say that you have one hot opinion there bud but digits don't lie.

>>53040106
Consider that there are basically all kinds of worlds in the Imperium, with at least one country for every combination of "country stereotype" and "real world historical period"
So I suppose there is a world out there where the latest album is a rap compilation about the greatness of the Emperor and another one where Molfgang Wamadeus Aozart has just written a great classical symphony about the light of the Emperor leading the mankind to glory

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How would a character with time manipulation powers in 40k be represented in the rules?
Rerolling armor saves or hits like with veil of time and Orikan the Diviner?

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>>53039995
Terminators are currently sitting in a nice pot of dettol but here's my forces so far

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>>53040198
>le smurf hate maymay
1d4chan pls go and stay go

>>53040138
I started 40k about 6 months ago, it didn't see this amount but could just be the new edition.
>>53040161
>outnumbered by newfags who refuse to integrate
That sounds oddly like a situation in the real world

>>53040192
Basically. Fateweaver knows everything that will ever happen, or has happened, and gets a 4++, rerolling ones, and can re-roll one die of your choice per turn

>>53040198
back to 1d4, junior. We don't need your trash memes.

>>53040192
I'd say that to represent time stop you should give him the ability to repeat a phase whenever he want, to represent him doing his shit while time has stopped

Bringing back dead models/units to represent rewinding time

Win whenever you want because it just works

>>53040206
Not bad. My advice would be to add cultists. They make decent meat shields and are dirt cheap

>>53039970
Would be pretty neat in current ed (if they became ap3/4), I'm not sure how the next edition is going to handle orders, if it includes them at all.

>>53039965
8th Necromunda Dragoons and 144th Cadian Armoured on tour as part of an Enforcer Strike group.

Games are usually 1500 points at my club so I like to think of my guys as being an armour patrol or spear head with the Dragoons providing a Mech-vet platoon with the attached Cadians providing a tank squadron. My valk is a navy asset they call in when they begin an engagement

what's an army that's impossible to make unfluffy?

>>53040198
Outing yourself way too fast there lad.

>>53039965
My Imperials: Jaded puritanical Inquisitor had his faith renewed by witnessing the ascension of a Living Saint, and pledged his life and armies to her cause of defending the common people of the Inquisition.

Necrons: Terminator-style Oldcrons who treat other Tomb Worlds' sudden development of individuality as a flaw, and prioritize their elimination.

>>53040234
Look to 3rd edition (best edition) warp time power.

It basically allowed you to re-roll everything

>>53040240
Orks and Imperial Guard

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>>53040245
don't forget reset the universe

>>53040255
what's this, an auspex for ants?

Do Dark Eldar actually have personal relationships, or is it all backstabbing all the time?

>>53040240
I'd say Space Wolves
They don't follow the Codex Astartes and all the Wolf Lords can do whatever they want with their company, to the point that different SW company can be as different in tactics as different chapters normally can be

So you just need to say that your HQ really likes bikes/jetpack/infantry/vehicles/wolves/elites etc. and the company followed him

The only exemption would be the HQ units, since they are normally part of the Wolf King company, but Egil Ironwolf had literally all the members of his company act like techmarines, so I suppose you can fluff it as you lord really like psykers or chaplains and the 2-3 rune/wolf priests you have in your list are for the most part normal astartes that are just so good at that that they are almost the actual HQ

>>53040290
Eldar are creatures of heightened emotion so they must be able to form strong relationships but each and every Dark Eldar is a jaded fuck to the extreme. You would probably have to do a lot to get them to overcome that and put trust in a partner.

>>53040290
yes and yes, you always need to sleep with one eye open in commoragh.

>>53040297
>>53040272
>>53040251
>>53040245
>>53040234
>>53040228
>>53040192
Thanks, was considering doing a scenario where a single character one the opponents team could basically do a second phase whenever he wanted once during the opponents turn, so if someone tried to shoot at him he could stop time and shoot that unit first or run into cover, we just did a serious apocalypse event so i told my group id try and have a meme game next time

>>53040290

>trying to make sense of a society that would utterly collapse in the real world

you're doing it wrong, senpai

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>>53040290
Yes but its next level BPD tier

>>53040333
>>53040318
Makes sense, I figured it couldn't be totally impossible. Regular friendships, even with an eye (or both) open for a chance to get ahead?

>>53040290
Vect has an ex-wife.

>>53040352
So he's just playing Ynnari with only one soulburst unit then?

>>53040290
Yes, and there's even a short story devoted to the concept - Mistress Baela's Gift, in which an Archon tries to win the heart of a newly widowed Commorite noblewoman.

Essentially, the Dark Eldar concept of 'love' is more akin to a mutual, all-consuming obsession, a desire to own and possess their partner, to prevent anyone from possibly harming or stealing them away.

>>53040377
i wouldn't trust anyone even with some stupid social contract bullshit thats supposed to make my utopia actually work and not turn into bedlam

>>53040392
Even with an NAP the result would still be the same, I just included it because the ancap fag in this thread is easily triggered.

>>53040388
>dark eldar are the ultimate yanderes
guess who's headed to the dark city?

>>53040238
There's 10 in there to the left of the Helbrute, I use those for killteam with the Raptors mostly though. Need to paint more (have another 15 from starter/CS expansion) but they bore me after a while and a friend is getting me into AoS lately so that's where my painting focus is going after the raptors
The bikes have been started by someone else and they want to finish painting them which works for me because I don't experiment nearly as much as them and would never manage to get a matching unit out of it

>>53040138
Not usually any more so than any other /tg/ threads. It's really ramped up since GW posted a picture of a black guy playing the game on their website.

>>53040408
Their city the yandare simulator?

Hey you could make a skin for that game and pretend to play DE?

>>53040384
basically one model gets soulburst on crack, it would be intentionally broken
>in a unit about to get shot at, stop time and move to a new unit
>double up on attacks in combat
>get an extra movement
thats assuming my group isn't utterly retarded and just decide to ignore it because they don't get it, its kinda hit or miss with them and my scenarios

>glue model to base
>go to make tea
>it gets blown over
FUCK

>>53040485
NIGGERS

>>53040485
Are you hobbying outside like a normie?

>>53040096
>>tfw the marxist and confessed "alt righter" actually play the same army and get along

Typical tankie

>>53040517
Maybe

Its sunny and warm here

>>53040106
Hymns and Goff Rokk.

But really anything and everything. A lot of things actually aren't heresy.

>>53039832
Just because the current iteration of 40k is a mess of rules doesn't mean it's complex. It's just mess.

>>53040059
>shota+xenos
>heresy
You wanna clear that out with the Lord Commander of the Imperium of Man and his gorillion years old gf?

>>53040096

The only guy in one of my classes who knows anything of/plays war-games is an anarcho communist.

Pretty fun to smile and nod, then laugh at him to myself when I get home.

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>>53039712

>Abaddon is a failure, why isn't 40k focused on the Nids?

>>53040594
Aren't you tired of trying to force this meme to happen? It's been weeks dude

>>53040649
That dog at the bottom looks like an overgrown wig

>>53040388

Sounds hot.

penitent engines will be overpowered screencap this

>>53040747
Hahahahah no. That would mean that GW care about SoB. Two decades and not a single proper release

>>53040747
That is if they ever get a decent model.

Morale phase is up
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/03/new-warhammer-40000-morale/

>>53040771
Alright everyone before you look, take your guesses what it'll include

>>53040771
Holy shit this isn't a fucking phase, it's an "empty the board" tier massacre

>>53040786
Battle shock!

>>53040771
holy shit who spoke about horde edititions?

>>53039736
>Americans call themselves that because they're the only country that actually has "America" in it
>Mexican intellectuals and leafs still think their Americans.

>>53040771
RIP blobs

>>53040771
Oh boy ATSKNF better ignore morale tests or ld7 marines are FUCKED

>>53040771
Battleshock, but now with shooting.

>>53040771
>no mention of tyranids
For fuck sake

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>>53040771

>Orks are a melee army
>LD5

>>53040771
I like it

>>53040850
theyre cucked, they said that it was goign to be rare

>>53040818
God damn it I was right.

So MSU is back? Just to prevent more dudes from death anyway?

>>53040827
>Commissars will be able to BLAM a Guardsmen to auto pass a failed check.

AGE OF IG

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>>53040771
Im IG player and i dont like it. Well only Mecha list are now possible.

>>53040871

>6-man tac squad
>4 tactical marines die
>roll your LD test
>roll a 6
>your plasma gun and sergeant die

Maybe not.

>>53040827
blobs are going to be relatively fine. i can spare to lose some of my 30 gaunts.

elite units are probably going tovbe wiped out by moral a lot.

>>53040859
>>53040850
Or ATSKNF will be something that a command point gives for 1 unit to ignore morale,

>>53040536
>Hobbying and tea
Oh, so he's a Brit-
>Sunny and warm
DOES NOT COMPUTE

>>53040878
Please be a thing. I really hope Commissars keep blobs in line. They probably won't though. It will just be they improve leadership.

>>53040771
And to absolutely no-one's surprise, it's more Age of Sigmar garbage.

>>53040878

Auto-pass is gone, friendo. Sounds like they're going to be very strict about this for quite some time.

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>>53039795

>I play Ultramarines

>>53040878
>>53040880
>Conscripts with Commissars will lose 1 max at the end of every turn.

EUPHORIC

>>53040891
Nice weather in Ireland at least, I assume its similar in the Uk.
>>53040850
Marines are fucked in all ways except for the possibility of 2+ cover saves, this should not surprise you.

>>53040771
I am disappoint. Rest of the changes seemed ok, but this one is just dumb and boring as fuck.

>>53040878
i have a feeling thatll be it.
or just a reroll if they want it to be hard to mitigate.

> A Chaos Dark Apostle, for example, allows all nearby units from the same Legion to use his Leadership.

well at least we know legion rules are still in.

>>53040891
thats because: irish

>>53040929
I want it to be that, but I honestly can't see it being that strong in this new edition. Why would Guard of all armies have some of the best access to Morale buffs? GW doesn't give a shit about Guard.

Re-roll and possibly leadership increase sounds more like it sadly.

>>53040927

I think it's a great change. Morale will actually matter now, like it used to in Fantasy. Like 75% of the game's armies completely ignored morale previously.

>>53040747

They are the only model I don't have for sisters, in a collection of almost 3000 points, should I go ahead and order 9 to be safe?

>>53039682
Quick question to CSM players, does anyone actually play non-Legion CSM? I heard tons of people bitching about the Crimson Legion book when it came out but would anyone mind if they got rid of vanilla CSM and only had Legions?

>>53040964
This. And bear in mind that we don't know weapon profiles yet apart from few marine stuff and what we can see from those, guns are less lethal now, which means less casualities which leads to easier morale tests.

>>53040771
>space marines
>tyranids
>necrons
>custodes
>running away

>>53040964
You know how to fix it? Remove the retarded fearless rules. Fixed without copy pasting battle shock from AoS

>>53040964
>Morale will actually matter now

Why do people think this wasn't an obtainable goal with the current Morale rules? Is the idea of making less units Fearless and knocking Ld down by a point across the board so strange?

Sure, morale tests matter now, but the rule is boring and unintuitive.

>>53040981
>horde armies lose again
>and nothing of value is lost

>>53040964
That had more to do with the abundance of special rules that allowed armies to ignore or not care about morale than the morale system itself.

I guess it's a nerf to sweeping advance, where high number of casualties meant you were most likely going to lose the entire unit. But removing even more models rather than falling back or anything ... It seems like 8th will have even more of the just removing large amounts of models than 7th

>>53040981
>represents warriors fleeing the battlefield, dying from the psychic feedback shockwaves of their allies, or retreating with injured or fallen brethren

I suppose it can be the last one for marines or custodes, the second one for tyranids

I don't really know for the necrons

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>>53040023

Why don't yah take a seat righ' there

>>53040996
Orkz basically already played with this kind of rule. Guard will probably get bufs from Commissars and Priests. Tyranids will probably get synapse buffs to mitigate losses.

>>53040981
>retreating with injured or fallen brethren
Custodes and Space Marines would definitely retreat to try an rescue a downed buddy, especially Custodes considering how precious each of them is.

>>53041011
>relocated to deal with greater threats

>>53041011
The most disappointing thing is that if you take enough casualties, it will be impossible to pass the Ld test. No more weird, heroic moments where a unit gets absolutely mauled in close combat but bravely stands their ground with a double-one on the test.

>>53040771

SQUAD BROKEN

BY THE EMPEROR LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THAT THING

>>53041011
>I don't really know for the necrons
Phasing out ?

>>53040971
The thing is there's no real downside to Legions, even if you're just using the rules. You get VotLW for free, along with free special rules, and no matter what you take there's a Legion you can slot them into for free bonuses of some kind.

It might be a bit different next edition if it costs points though

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>>53040971
I would love to only have legion CSM. It's fluffy, and it helps the army so much that it might as well be required.

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>>53040373

lelith hesperax and asdrubael vect have that.

they've known each other long enough to be able to work together on the battlefield WITHOUT HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT GETTING BACKSTABBED

a fact most commorites can scarcely comprehend

>>53041011
yeah the psychic backlash is definitely for nids.

my speculation is that synpase creatures themselves are the only ones likely to be immune. with synapse range probably buffing friendly units LD and/or rerolls.

that aside it looks like another plus for nidzilla, units of 1 care not for moral.

>>53040771
shite change, hordes will be completely fucked

>>53041044
Some units might have rules where the ignore the result on the roll of a natural 1, to represent unnatural heroism.

>>53041011
Necrons were way ahead of the curve, used to when they lost half their shit the entire army left, no roll needed

>>53041011
Psychic feedback for Daemons and Nids would be my guess, along with Phasing out for Necrons.

Custodes come in squads of 5, so if they're leadership 10, it's actually impossible for them to flee. Even if they're only 8 or 9 it'll still be when there's one guy left anyway who might just be strategically withdrawing.

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>>53040956
>tfw Irish name and blood despite being in Americas since 1700s
>tfw local plastic paddie Irish mob always sees my name and think I'm "with it"

End it all fampai

>>53040996
Hoard armies are some of the strongest in AoS, so they will be strong in 8th.

>>53041044
a lot of these reveals seem fairly general and glossed over.

a 1s always pass rule wouldn't surprise me.

>>53040891
>tea is a british drank
it could be any fucking place.

>no poo-in-loo ever drinks tea
>no chinkese heard of tea
>mo-money-mo-jihad and his mates hate tea

happens to not be brit, is potato-mexican:
>>53040956

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>>53041090
>Hoard

>>53040891
Gibraltar, that is all.

>>53041110
Is it Horde? I forgot what was which.

>>53041067
GIVE US GOOD LOST AND THE DAMNED

>>53040771
>Tomorrow
New background and lore
>Friday
Battle-forged armies
>Coming soon
Space Marines
Characters units
CC weapons

>>53040891
Sorry britfag, only EU members get access to the sunny weather market

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>>53040971

>Crimson Slaughter still a thing

Literal WHOS

>>53041121
It is horde.

>>53041071
I don't think Synapse creatures will be strictly immune. They may have leadership 10, which other units nearby get to use, but that could still be reduced by modifiers and result in casualties.

That would still mean anything other than a big blob of warriors would be immune to morale in the same way as tanks, by just being one thing, and swarms of gaunts could also be highly resistant to any penalties.

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>>53040771

>Taking a Leman Russ squadron only to have 1 or 2 vanish after a bad leadership roll

JUST

New morale system proves a theory

Everybody is zombies now

>>53041163
>Everybody is zombies now

What did he mean by this?

>>53041132
>implying americans don't get the most sunny weather
Pls help it's 104 already

>>53041163
I think it is suppose to represent individuals fleeing the battle rather than whole squads at once. And having tons of seperate models running away, maybe regrouping etc. would slow the game down to much, so it's just removed from play.

Not that I like it a lot

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>bought a bunch of codices from Dark Sphere
>didn't keep the fucking invoices
>only proof of purchase I have are email confirmations of orders being placed because the website won't show me my fucking order history so I cannot get actual invoices
>I have till Friday to figure this shit out

Am I fucked m8s? What am I supposed to do?

>>53041172
Back before AoS, this was what happened to undead units to compensate for their being immune to morale

>>53041194
Try to write to GW explaining your situation?

>>53041194
Uhhh if you bought them, the payments should still show on your credit card/Paypal as going to them,

>>53041194
email the Webstore. they can probably send you the invoices or tell you how to get them.

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>>53041209
>>53041214
Called GW today. They won't accept a Paypal receipt or a bank statement because it doesn't display the price I spent on the codices (if any), only the price of the order (to be fair I bought other shit too). I need the piece of paper shit that comes in the box with the models but I threw those out ages ago.

>>53041218
I'll try this.

>>53041158
well tank crews have bailed from battles before.

but that asside if they're just LD8 they'll still be immune.

the morale system is just to increase model removal making the game faster

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Which one will you get first?

>>53041251
codex eldar

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>>53041246
Lose 1 tanks that is 8 wounds. Roll a dice get a 6. So you get 14 wounds? Killing another tanks?

I'm reading this wrong or is this the most retarded moral rule in existence?

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So I remember a page on 1d4chan about a successor chapter to the Raven Guard in which it was pretty much a Metal Gear parody. For some reason I can't find the page anymore. Can anyone help me identify the chapter and also provide their color scheme and emblem?

I know it wasn't the Raptors

>>53041262
"The mechanics are simple – any units that suffered casualties in a turn must take a Morale test at the end of it. You just roll a D6, add the number of models from the unit that have been slain, and if the number is bigger than the unit’s Leadership, the unit loses the difference in additional models."

>>53041262
It's determined by models lost, not wounds taken IIRC.

>>53041262
You get 6 wounds would it be LD 8

>>53041262
It's model based, not wound based
You lose X models
Roll 1d6+X
1d6+X-Ld is the number of models you lose, independently from the number of wounds those models have

>>53041262
First, it only accounts for losses in that turn.

Second, it's models, not wounds, and you subtract leadership.

So, if you lose 2 tanks from a 3 tank squadron in one turn, you roll a d6 and add 2. The maximum result is 8, so the only way you lose a 3rd Russ is if they're leadership 7.

>>53041068
That was the case until she joined the Ynnari. Vect probably wants her dead now

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>>53040771
>Orks LD5
>lose 5 guys to shooting becusae >6+
>lose 5 more to moral
>lolDontCare, i have 20 more
looks like orks are back baby

>>53039965
Adeptus mechanicus on a forge world covered with vegetation so they decided to augment the plants because the plants are so weak can't even survive a little pollution

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>>53041262
>I don't read shit, just funpost

>>53041307
Not to mention mob rule will likely reduce that.

>>53041083
to be fair it was when they lost 75%
Not counting monoliths

>>53041269
>1d4chan
That place isn't exactly welcome discussion around here.

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I'm worried about how the "anti" armies will turn out in the 8th. What if they reduce them to one or two ally units that just get hatred or preferred enemy against daemons/xenos instead of a stand alone armies with some actual special rules of their own ?

>>53039965
Renegade Admech who view machines as superior to organics, they worship Abominable Intelligence and want to recreate the necron biotransferance process.

>>53041293
2 tanks die? So the third one explodes out of sheer terror?

>>53041339
I'm more interested in seeing if they break up the armies the way they broke up old WHFB into a bunch of mini armies that get battleline with allegiance

>>53040914
I dont like Kommisar, feel forct pick for normal tropps for 25P and can nothing.

>>53041354
If it's at least ld8 it'll be fine

>>53041327
I didn't know that. Do you mind if I ask why?

>>53041354
They retreat so they don't also get killed.

>>53041354
Crew bails

It happens

>>53041370
>>53041354
So if you can, you'll have to deploy your 3 tanks as individual units.

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Are all knight armies unfun to play against? Will 8th edition with the vehicle changes mange them reasonable? I just want a bunch of giant robots.

>>53041354
either tank retreats or the crew just bails.

>>53041339

>that giant fucking split down the plasma cannon

hideous.

>>53041397
yeah i guess. but its already best to do that so they can act independently if needed.

>>53041369
The big issue, from how I see it, is that the people who post regularly in these threads don't have any creative control over 1d4chan anymore; its become subsumed by its own community and memes. Sure, its amusing for a laugh, but now has little to do with what "we" think. People have cranked up the meming about it nowadays, but its not an issue unless you assume its humor is /40kg/'s humor.

>>53041354

not everyone is Brad Pitt in Fury.

>>53041369
its the most normie tier of sites and everyone here has heard every joke and stale meme on it a million times

>>53041411
The coghead crafting that wasn't a big fan of welding shit. All he ever wanted to do was get to serve under the magos biologi.

>>53041402
Knight armies are relatively easy to take down if your opponent is the least bit competent. They can be unfun but only if your opponent has no way to kill them, but they would also probably lose agaisnt any superheavy at that point.

I break mine out every once and a while, and at this point no one at my flgs is intimidated by it. They are incredibly fun to play with as well.

>>53041369
It's because of the unfunny memes and jokes. They were a part of /tg/, but then got obnoxious. Like the whole Chaos Spawn, E Money, and Matt Ward hate. I'm not gonna tell you not to read it, but it's better to leave that stuff buried.
As well, it's been further tainted by reddit

>>53041402
with them being potentially threatened by more things. games will probab1 be less RPS ish and so less boring/infuriating.
so probably. but it'll depend on just how they stat and cost knights in 8e.

>>53041354

The crew bail out, most likely. Something that's not really uncommon when you've seen every other member of your squadron killed within 3 seconds.

>>53041402
They are boring to play against. No fun even if you win. Just play what you want to play.

>>53041402
Yes. Yes. Do what you want, as will your potential opponents.

>>53041419
Maybe the new FOC system will make that viable without cluttering your FOC.

>>53041455
yeah. There's meant to be 14 FoCs.
There's sure to be one thats got extra HS slotsm

People panicking about horde armies and fleeing are overreacting. AoS gives +1 bravery for each 10 models when you test.
Also big units help you during combat phase, as you require fewer activations to make the same number of attacks.
Large blobs will be fine.

>>53040771
>roll a 6
>literally impossible to not lose at least one extra model with Guardsmen
Yeah, this is totally going to end well. Hurrah for losing a dozen extra men on top of the dozen the enemy killed!

Russes will be Ld6 and a 6 will make a second tank vanish into thin air. I am upset.

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>>53041491
>Russes will have worse ld than guardsmen

>>53040771
>Every vehcle has Cowardly grots
Kek

>>53041491
>being so illogical just so you can be upset

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>>53041354
>>53041491
be very afraid of fire dragons

>>53041405
Mechanic wise the tank blows up, fluff wise they retreat.

Retreating was good now it just look like everyone just shoot themself when their team dies instead of actually running

>>53041491

On a six, sure. That's a 1/6 chance. You could also roll a 1 and need to have lost 7 guard this turn before you lose any more.

>>53041491
I doubt they will take extra damage.

>>53041325

>MOBA
Nice sheep mentality, DoW2 was more of a MOBA than 3 will ever be

>>53041491
>boohoo muh blobs

>>53041491

So you think it's impossible for a tank crew to ever freak out and bail out of the tank? Especially when those are crewed by Imperial Guard?

It's better than 'Tanks crewed by Guard and Tau are somehow braver than a space marine chapter master'

>>53041539
Instead of not losing anything and just retreating.

Like a leadership test if it is a fail they move to the neares cover withing movement range, if not they just go to table edge.

With not! Battleshock Troops just shoot themself if people start dropping. It doesn't even look like running

>>53041537
>Mechanic wise the tank blows up, fluff wise they retreat.
>Retreating was good now it just look like everyone just shoot themself when their team dies instead of actually running
what are you on about, mechanics and fluff wise the models are retreating. So they're not going to have an ongoing effect on the battle and are removed. Like all 7 other editions of 40k a removed mini doesn't only represent death.

>>53041562
That's because DOW is just a shit series of games.

>>53041566
I was gonna say I sure as hell wouldn't get out of my tank unless I was getting targeted with something so big the tank is just a target that explodes.

Then I realized that's exactly the case if you're losing two tanks in a single round.

>>53041572
>It doesn't even look like running
>model flees the battle and so is removed, somehow this doesn't look like running away.

>>53041581
It moving your models back looks like retreating, just removing models looks like shooting themself.


Also previous edition didn't had suicidal Troops when friends drop dead. Instead they moved away from the shooting. (Unless BT, crazy bastards)

>>53041520
Guardsmen are dropped to at least Ld6 in 8e, friend. SM are 7 and there's no way they'll let normal people equal their precious muhrines.

>>53041563
>tanks
>muh blobs
What did he mean by this?

>>53041549
Clearly you are not familiar with how GW treats vehicles. Hull points lost bleed from one tank to the rest of the squad in 7e, which is retarded enough. Wounds will 100% spill over and there will be morale checks for them.

>>53039682
Anyone got that cute Chibi Sister of battle? The onde made on paper, with freckles, holding a book.

>>53041600
Moving your models back x distance looks like retreating.

Taking models out, then taking more models out after all the shooting and Melee looks like your dudes committed sudoku

>>53041621
Go back to 1d4ddit

>>53041592
Not only that, but tanks might end up with a leadership of 8 or more, which means the only way they'll actually bail is if you're faced with devastating anti-tank AND something spooky is lowering their leadership

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>>53041590

Nice edge.

>>53041610
This edition doesn't have suicidal troops either, fluffwise. Tagging something pointlessly dumb onto your argument is kinda, you know, pointlessly dumb.

>>53041619
I wasn't talking about spill over you idiot. I was talking about battle shock. Next time you want to be condescending, make sure you're not stupid first.

>>53041610
>Also previous edition didn't had suicidal Troops when friends drop dead. Instead they moved away from the shooting

yes it did, what do you think sweeping advance was? Its breaking the enemy enough that they break formation and flee the battle, since they'll have no more effect on the battle they're removed just as other casualties and even the occasional death is.

>>53041621
yeah I've got it but its in the meme folder on my phone which is out of batteries, will post sometime

>>53041261
That's pretty neat actually. From what I've gathered a lot of people that weren't too big of fans of the older DoWs and/or 40k really like the game so it looks like we might get at least a some new blood. Trying to reach out to them with stuff like that and the Duncan guide targeting DoW are rather smart.

>>53041632
Nome, not there.
Maybe because It didnt pass the quality control.

>>53041649
sweeping advance is running the enemy down as they try and run after breaking, thats why you roll off and why termies can't do it, because they are too slow

>>53041643
>x is shit
>OOOOOH EDGY
ok

>>53041652
Cool, I'll be waiting!

>>53041625
if youre taking models out in a moral phase and not a phase where anyone does any fighting, then yeah it looks like retreating.

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>tfw cutting down fleeing loyalists with my fearless berzerkers

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>>53041660

>40 results

I remember when they did that for Total War:Warhammer and they only had like 6 models to show off because they just squatted the setting

>>53041645
>reading comprehension
The point was that GW is fucking retarded when it comes to squadded vehicle mechanics.
>...and there will be morale checks for them.

>>53041354

>Crew bails
>Shrapnel from the literally exploding tanks next to them damage their vehicle
>Etc

>>53041692
Sweeping advances are no longer a thing anymore, khorneflake.

t. GW shills

Why are people defending AoS rules in 40k?

>>53041670
running them down and killing a handful is how you break them completely. In battles that would rarely result in total casualties because all the soldiers split off and leg it. You can't feasibly track and kill them all while you're still in a battle.

>>53041692
>fearless
Oh boy! Can't wait to chip few bersies down and see them slaughter each other on the sight of blood.

>>53041625
Picking up models is just a way to remove clutter when they don't play a part in the game anymore. Do you tip over dead models and leave them on the table? Probably not, because it would be stupid. You remove them when they don't play a part in the game anymore. Same as this.

>>53041592

Yeah. I think people are forgetting a lot that tanks are going to have like 8 wounds each, a good toughness value and armour.

Blowing up 2 Leman Russ tanks? Someone had to do at least (More if they are making it tougher than a Dreadnaught, which they almost certainly are) 16 unsaved wounds in a single turn. And even then you only lost another tank on a 6.

>>53041710
Because it's a fine change?

>>53041710
>too beta to even directly call someone out because you have no argument against what they're saying

>>53041625

>Taking models out, then taking more models out after all the shooting and Melee looks like your dudes committed sudoku

Mind you, against Chaos Demons...they just might be. They just saw demons eat the souls of a dozen of their buddies and know they are next. That lasgun looks pretty tasty about now.

>>53041710
Why are people attacking the rules for a game they've never played?

>>53041710
Because it's actually fixing things.
>SM armies actually have to care about morale now
>Melee-centric units have a chance at assault now
>Units no longer get locked in fights they can't win
I would take all the Sigmarization in the world if it meant that the broken pile that is 7th edition can go die in a hole

>>53041752
More like war Beta 40 betas, amirite?

>>53039965
Black templars

A marshall who was a survivor of helsreach and witnessed Grimaldus rise from the broken cathedral has now begun his own crusade. The marshall was an initiate during helsreach. Since the war on Armageddon ended, the marshall has traveled around with his soldiers looking for hopeless battles to prove himself. Many great victories have been won but he is still not satisfied and seeks a battle the likes of helsreach. Throughout his journey however, he has inspired many to join him, and his crusader ship has become it's own small town housing several thousand men and women from all corners of the imperium.

Using salvaged rubble for. The cathedral at helsreach, he has built his own church on the crusader ship, where his followers go to worship.

After rescuing a small convent of sisters who were abandoned on a planet overrun by tyranids, they decided to join his cause and stay with the crusade. Now the men and women of the crusade, hailing from the broken planets of various wars, diligently train day and night for a chance to prove themselves and honor the unyielding determination of their patron Grimaldus.

The marshall has recently begun an intense rivalry with a space wolf company (my buddy), and the two forces have had a series of honor duels/battles.

>>53041649
Wasn't the core concept of sweeping advance that they were chased down and slaughtered, not that they ran off? Because running off the board is another completely different thing that they can still do.

>>53041147
stats aren't capped at 10 anymore.
we may just have ld15 hivetyrants that grant their LD to nearby squads.

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>>53041704
>implying I won't be routing your entire L8 unit with a single charge
>implying your ATSKNF rerolls will save you when I've killed 7 of your models before you even get to strike back
I cannot even begin to describe how smug I am right now.

>>53041766
The need to rationalize that box full of model they burned when AoS came out.

>>53041773

Yeah, Marines having to care about morale is nice.

Rather than the old 'Nah, they don't know fear' we have..well, marines are plenty willing to drag an injured marine back to the medics as that's a valuable resource.

>>53041766
Because Im not gonna spend US$2K on a game with shitty rules and no squatters

>>53041256
Grand Alliance Scenery, so I can be almost as NPC as nids, but have better thought out rules.

>>53041800
You've already been doing that with 7e

>>53041799
That's not how it works and you know it, compromising the battle line to recover geneseed is how you lose all of your marines.

>>53041780
>Wasn't the core concept of sweeping advance that they were chased down and slaughtered, not that they ran off?
its both, its chasing them down and killing a couple which breaks the others so hard they're not going to rally befor the battle is over.

>>53041810
Fool me once, GW.

>>53041782
>implying your pathetic dindu nigger axes will be able to cut through my terminator armor
>implying you'll survive my str6 ap1 maces of redemption, that is if i'm feeling kind enough to not use smite mode
Why are khorneflakes so delusional?

>>53041799
>drag wounded comrade away
>abandoning those still fighting
>less enemy deaths because fewer guns
>more marine deaths because more enemies relative to marines
>remaining marines more likely to be killed

>>53041823
ill give you a dollar for your army and pay for shipping as long as its not tau, ill even give you a bunch of sprue to burn so you can still get your catharsis

>>53041810
Squatters are gone for longer

>>53041781
True. That means they could also give a degree of quality to each creative's synapse. A Leadership 15 Tyrant would make blobs of gaunts insanely resistant to battleshock

>>53041841
Im better getting chinese knock offs

>>53041841
I wish that kind of deals were real

>>53041710
I wonder why they want to make the rules so similar to AoS... one of the strengths was that GW's two big games had such different rule sets and armies.
Now it just looks like two very similar skirmish games.

If SoB don't get a full plastic range by the end of this year. GW hasn't change at all

>>53041422
>>53041427
>>53041441

Ah, I see. Thanks for the info, I'll know not to bring it up again. It's a shame they aren't liked by /tg/ anymore; I enjoy reading abridged versions of the lore.

What's your favorite Chaos warband that are aligned to a specific God but aren't one of the big four traitor legions?

>>53041491
>Not having a Tank Commissar to shoot fleeing crews to keep them in the fight
It's like you don't actually understand how guard works you knuckle dragging reprobate

>>53039965
My Imperial Guard detachment originated from a world of the Gothic sector which has been destroyed so long ago that they forgot its name. The bulk of the population was extracted by a local splinter of the battlefleet but due to Administratum snafu, they were never resettled. They now live and breed in the bowels of the ships of the battlefleet and their population is tithed to form the bulk of the ground force the Fleet Admiral use for ground operations.

I play them either as standard loyalists or as the taskforce of a Renegade Admiral, depending on what army I face.

I know it's shit.

>>53041933
Those things exist?

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>>53041834
>he thinks he won't literally drown in -1 rend S5 attacks + power fists before he even gets to swing
>tfw will collect free termie skulls and blessings after routinely slaughtering the sargeant in a challange with my first-striking powerfist and cutting down the cowards that will flee in horror
Cuckwing skulls make great decoration.

>>53041918
wanting a full plastic range for a meme army when space marines and eldar aren't even free of finecast and metal

>>53039965
I have a good fluff army and a box-art cadian army.

They way every man should live.

>>53041717
Don't give GW ideas anon.

>>53041781
Lol that's cute, but wrong.
Gaunts will be Ld 5, but Ld 10 in Synapse.
Your Hormagaunts will hit on 3+, but Wound on 5+, but with Toxin Sacs can reroll failed Wounds (or Wound on 4+) not sure.

You'll rely on your high M to get the Charge and strike first.

Tyranids are one of the three armies whose battle doctrine is "Acceptable Loss".

>>53041913
My questions exactly. No idea why people are hype for having AoS 2.0

If I wanted to play AoS i would play it.

>>53041957
Monkey paw! Sisters are literally going to be militarum tempestus tier of an "army". Enjoy your 1 HQ, 1 troop + 2 transports and 2 other units. That's your army now and it's ALL PLASTIC.

>>53040023
>"What is it saying?"
>'Can you believe it only stays this size for a few weeks?'
>"Ugh. Breed fast and grow fast"
>'Essentially vermin. Let's exterminate it and move onwards'

Best shota.

>>53041839
>Stoopid naff panzees are as cowardly as they look
>Is surprised

>>53041799
So long as every army will it will be affected that will be nice
>LOL Legion Tactics, we're fearless
>LOL Synapse, we're Fearless
>LOL Daemonic Instability, we're (mostly) Fearless

>>53041799
Not really since your absense will likely get more of your comrades killed, but I could see individual friendships getting them to do it.

>>53041970
That's the new morale rules with thematic effect for khornates. Kill few berserkers, they fail morale and butcher few of their own because of crazy bloodlust.

>>53041954
>-1 rend
>what is this pathetic garbage
>implying i'm not striking at initiative
>implying i'm not also T5 with 3++
>implying your pathetic champion will survive my 3 str 6 ap 1 attacks
>forgetting that terminators get 2 wounds in 8th ed too

>also forgetting that i have hatred and preferred enemy: csm of all types

Oh boy I'm gonna have fun taking the skulls of the skull takers.

>>53041985
hell i wouldn't mind that, grab a squad of sisters in a rhino to ally with my guard, especially if i could bring an all flamer unit

>>53040786
More age of sigmar obviously.

>>53041977
>but Wound on 5+
against T4 sure.

>>53041978
>>53041913
Because I like better rules regardless of their relationship to another game, and never have nor ever will give a fuck about playing Fantasy/AoS.

Besides, mostly compatible rulesets works fine for Wormahordes (not that WMH isn't shit but it's for other reasons than that).

>>53042005
Don't summon the devil anon. Chaos just started to recover from 6e and I don't want it ruined so soon.

>>53042007
They are called the sisters of silence, and they also provide anti-psyker support. Forget about SoB, GW already has.

>>53042001
Calling it now. Daemons will have the same battleshock rule as AoS.
Ld 10 across the board and will add d6/d3 models back on a 1.

>>53042026
T4 is the standard. Not the exception.

i just hope the rules arent shit and my secretly rising hope isnt going to amount to disappointment from the past 5 years of shit this game has suffered from.

>>53041919
It's just that hearing the same memes over and over again isn't funny, and most of them are based on events that happened years ago. Their info about lore and tactics is also very hit or miss.
>hahaha ultramarines are blue and smurfs are blue so I'll call ultramarines smurfs! xD
>hahaha member Matt ward and his shitty codexes from a decade ago? those were so bad!
>guise member squats? evil GW removed the best faction in the game 30 years ago and never even apologized for it!
and so on. I read 1d4, but I can't stand people bringing their memes here.