/btg/ Battletech General!

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So who decided that the prime variant for a 100 ton omnimech should have a damage capacity of 25? Seriously, even if you don't play battletech you should know that's way too anemic for its weight class.

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Fed Suns?! Yeah that was our territory initially.

>>53025483
Is it because of the company engine that it doesn't have a lot of pod space? Even the targeting computer doesn't really offset the fact it has the long range weapons of something I would put as 60 tons.

>>53025641
Nope, because the A variant mounts 2 HPPCs, a snub nose, and 2 ERMLs, with 8 DHS.

>>53025641
The pod space is low anyway, and the Prime proceeds to mount a bunch of heavy pointless gear.

>>53025483
All the stuff that premiered in Hotspots 3072 has new toy syndrome. Don't take it seriously and look to the Infernus and later variants.

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>>53025379
>>53015350
I never really looked at it like this...

Please consider that comstar has had a clandestine anti-tech religious war against all other factions because "Hurr we should be the only ones with high tech, the others can't be trusted". And their whole monopoly on HPG comms because they sabotage, murder and destroy anyone who tries to research things on their own.

So its not just Zimbabwe. Its space Zimbabwe, the only people who know how to breed the special space pigeons (tm) that can transport messages all over the galaxy.

Also they had a fuckhuge cache of mint condition star league mechs + coolant suits.

So it is literally space pigeon breeding Zimbabwe in SPESS, with the best TEC-9 submachineguns while everyone else only has .38 revolvers. Literally an african milita in space. Add to it the religious fundamentalism and you get !Not-Jihadists in space doing everyones mail delivery. And of course everyone entrusts them not to just open the letters, read them, and reseal them.

I'm still amazed it took the inner sphere so long to get some real alternative means of data transfer. First mention i know is around 3048. Davion blackboxes, and then either Liao or Drac stole them and reverse engineered them.

>tl:dr: Comstar is literally space zimbabwe with space pigeons, religious anti tech raids and Admech-tier mysticism tech worship
>Pic related

>>53026837
>First mention i know is around 3048. Davion blackboxes, and then either Liao or Drac stole them and reverse engineered them.

Dude, you need to go back and read the grogtech era stuff. Because Black Boxes are how Hanse got around the Comstar interdiction in the 4th Succession War.

Even that wasn't invented. It was old pre-HPG tech they found, and severely limited.

>And of course everyone entrusts them not to just open the letters, read them, and reseal them.
Not really. But their public neutrality was one of their defining characteristics before the schism. They were also the last vestige of the true Star League, and nobody wanted to wreck that up. In a setting where local comms are trashed with any invasion, it's nice to know the interstellar ones will still work.

Then there's the money issue. HPG comms are supremely profitable, but building a single new Class B station is more than 1/4 the cost of a new McKenna Warship. Class A is way more. There's just not the money to make a competing network on hundreds of worlds, even if you had the tech. Only the Star League had that kind of money and will to throw around.

Ironically, this is the main reason Comstar went bankrupt in the Dark Age. You blow the HPG cores on 900 worlds and even if you found a solution to Clarion Call, you're still fucked with replacing them all.

I need a quick clarification.

Does the Lao Hu have an upper arm and shoulder actuator, or does the I.S. LB-20-X take up the whole 12 crit slot for the arm?

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>>53028503
Forgot shitpost scribbles.

>>53028503
Fills the arm and spills over into the RT, because IS LB-20s are 11 crits for no reason.

>>53025515
Chesterton was, and it's finally been reclaimed.

>>53028503
All mechs with arms have at least a shoulder and upper arm, as far as I know. That includes the Lao Hu. The LB-20-X takes up ten slots there, and one in the torso.

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>>53025515
>>53031273
Long live the Confederation!

Merc anon here. Sorry, I've been working like crazy and didn't have time to update anything. I've to catch up the last thread even!

What about I create a Google docs so everyone can edit? Maybe a form where everyone can post things, but not remove what other people did. This way I don't miss your posts and we keep everything compiled in a document

>>53031865
Do you have a list of what's been suggested so far?

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>>53028413

At the risk of turning /btg/ into a Mai Shiranui thread ...

>>53025379

Not my fault those kurita assholes are too stupid to look down.

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>>53033220
We tend to step over that which we consider trash.

What would you all say is the most boring mech on the tabletop all in all?

>>53034246

Basic Banshee maybe?

>>53034246
Anvil

>>53034246

Hellstar/Awesome/any and all Guassboats

>>53034246
Using nothing but Hellstars. But more generally, anything that can Alpha Strike forever gets boring. Having a heat dissipation capacity to handle a long-range system OR a short range one lets you pack more weapons into both roles, and forces you to make choices. Do you try to get closer to bring your short-range battery into play, or try to keep away to keep using your long-range firepower? Is your enemy fast enough in comparison to you to force you to use one or the other? Did you go too heavy on the long-range stuff, leaving you with a weakened short-range capacity, or is your long-range capacity only a token effort in return for a murderous up-close mauling?

>>53034579
>anything that can Alpha Strike forever gets boring.

But those are the only genuinely optimal units. And using non optimized units is boring and dumb.

>>53034727
>cookie cutter copy paste meta is fun
>going sub optimal and challenging yourself is boring

i fucking hate people like you,

>>53034727
>But those are the only genuinely optimal units. And using non optimized units is boring and dumb.

dis best b bait

>>52956117
Did you actually get Adam Sherwood to trade you a bunch of 'Mechs for some D&D stuff?

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>>53037142
You sure you didn't end up around New Kyoto?

>>53037245
>hunchtan
>no shoulder AC
whatamiseeing.jpg

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Every time I see it...

He still works at CGL.

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>>53038598
Heh.

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Marauder fight!

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>>53037142
I want to serve House Kurita!

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>>53040728
>Marauder fight!

As ubiquitous as this design is, and as much as I love all the Unseen, I never drew very many Marauders. There's one in this lot, though.

>>53033024
What I had is in Pastebin. I've missed most of discussion in the last thread, starting by the anon posting his lance.

Sadly I'll not have time until next Saturday to compile what is missing

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>>53041247
Do you do any more drawings as of late? Love your stuff.

>>53037142
>there will never be another photo like this
>never so much asian thicc in one place again

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>>53041946
>Do you do any more drawings as of late?

The most recent one was this Nicholiev, inspired by a Dougram discussion a few threads ago. The Bushman I reposted in the last thread (>>53001642).

>Love your stuff.

Thanks!

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>>53042067
Can I tag your art on the booru "Pencil Bro" or do would you like another monicker?

>Cabarov
>Would pilot proudly. I DON'T NEED ARMS! My last assignments were a Hoplite and an Urbie!

>>53037347
Mecha Musume for the Hunchback. The paddle is her autocannon, which the kanji for the numbers bears out, though it's using an outdated version of the character for two (preceding the number ten that is the cross shape, it multiplies it to result in 20).

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>>53042138
>Can I tag your art on the booru "Pencil Bro" or do would you like another monicker?

Would "PencilBro" (without the space) work better in the booru's search engine, or do you think it matters?

I recently uncovered a stash of fairly old artwork, including some from before the Dark Age of Technology, but none of it is really /btg/-related... except maybe for some sketches of the Patlabor cast.

>TPTB spend the FCCW developing the 11th Arcturan Guards as a talented force that gathers supporting units until it becomes a veritable battle group that shadows Victor's escort force for most of the civil war, fighting and beating him in many critical battles before being recalled to defend their capital from Clanners and mercenaries
>gets killed off in the first five minutes of the jihad and is never rebuilt

Why?

/btg/, what's your unit, character or faction that got that treatment? That was built up only to be dropped off a cliff by plot or just plain old forgotten?

>>53043372
>/btg/, what's your unit, character or faction that got that treatment?
ComStar.

>>53043372
>That was built up only to be dropped off a cliff by plot or just plain old forgotten?
The FWLN
Also the Knights Of The Inner Sphere

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>>53043372
>/btg/, what's your unit, character or faction that got that treatment?

>>53043372
Colonial Marshals.
Really the TC in general, but the marshals in particular

>>53043372
St.Ives Compact, Circinus Federation, the Waco Rangers

>>53043372
Barber's Marauder IIs, Waco Rangers, KoTIS, Nova Cats. List goes on and on

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>>53043554
Waco's Whackos went out like motherfucking bosses, and frankly I think most of the other dead factions here would be happy to have their fate.

>>53043537
Yeah, the Marshals getting buttfucked was.. annoying.

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>>53042338
I can do both "Pencil_Bro" and "PencilBro" without any problems.

If you have any artwork from Macross, Crusher Joe, MOSPEADA, Southern Cross and Dougram, it can be put it up on the booru. I left that option because of BT's original artwork coming from those franchises.
Anything else... let's see what ya got! I'm interested.

>>53043652
>Waco's Whackos went out like motherfucking bosses, and frankly I think most of the other dead factions here would be happy to have their fate.

I'll agree to this. Going down wrecking Sue's Dragoons and finally killing Jaime was pretty awesome.

Compare that to the 1st KotIS, who were gassed like vermin because fuck knows why.

Also, how many goddamn gas station captchas am I going to get before I can post?

>>53043652
They got an great last ride, absolutely, but how they got to that state was pure getting chucked off the cliff for plot reasons

>>53043755
>Compare that to the 1st KotIS, who were gassed like vermin because fuck knows why.

Can't have good guys in Grimderpess that is Jihad/Dark Ages, everyone needs to do warcrimes or be generally biggest aholes possible. The only reason that one knighly order, whose name escapes at the moment, has survived is because their planet is in the bumfuck nowhere in Periphery. But I am sure as soon as BT writers remember them they are getting warcrimed to death or do some horrible shit.

>>53043981
>The only reason that one knighly order, whose name escapes at the moment, has survived is because their planet is in the bumfuck nowhere in Periphery
You're thinking of the Brotherhood of Randis, yeah.
>But I am sure as soon as BT writers remember them they are getting warcrimed to death or do some horrible shit.
Probably. Given their past performance I'm going to bet that they'll have the taurians do it for no reason, lose three regiments in the attempt and then kill millions of civilians with nukes for literally no reason

>>53043372
FWLN.

>be the only IS faction to build an actual navy
>half of it just vanishes and the other half dies doing nothing of import

>>53044988
Best part was how they had to retroactively kill off 90% of it because only a tiny fraction was actually accounted for in the Jihad.

>>53043661
>If you have any artwork from Macross, Crusher Joe, MOSPEADA, Southern Cross and Dougram, it can be put it up on the booru. I left that option because of BT's original artwork coming from those franchises.
>Anything else... let's see what ya got! I'm interested.

Just about everything I've ever done, I've posted here; it's probably already in the booru by now. I do recall somewhere having drawn a picture of that stubby little LAM from Southern Cross, but I can't find it. If I ever do run across it, I'll be sure it ends up there.

>>53044988
>tfw we don't know the Dark Age fate of the Delos

I hope Lester put a shit ton of Aerospace fighters on her and let her loose Galactica style before he lost the war.

>>53043372

2nd Sword of Light. Lol(black)dracs.

>>53043981
>>53044149

Kit writes the Brotherhood of Randis shit which is why they suddenly got a lost Assault design and become the first Periphery nation with native assault production.

Odds of them suddenly dying are low.

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>>53045666
I've been getting through pics as fast as I can when I have time on lunch break and so forth. I can pic out your work easily. I'll tag every one. Anyhow it's good to know we pretty much have all of the collection. Gotta catch 'em all.

>>53046128
I actually don't mind them getting their own special (and actually pretty mediocre) mech, even an assault, but then I've been a longstanding believer on mech proliferation

>>53046128
>Kit writes the Brotherhood of Randis

Whelp, I hate the Brotherhood of Randis now. Fuck them.

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I've recently discovered the fan-made TRO 3063 and have been enjoying perusing it.

I'm not caught up on BT fan community politics and the OF, so I don't know any of the fellows who made it. Did anyone here contribute to it?

And has anyone used the Forge? I thought the fluff was interesting and might try to use it in an upcoming game.

>>53045965
I thought she couldn't leave the system? IIRC the only functioning Thera was the one stolen by the snowy magpies from the toasters.

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>>53046245
>Gotta catch 'em all.

I want be
the very best

>>53046599
No one here contributed, no. Also, they fucked up and added HPPCs and Snubbies to stuff, so hastily replaced them with goofy weapons.

>>53046599
3063? Is that the 'muh jumpvees' and 'muh lyran supership' POS?

>>53046657
No. You're thinking of the broken one in Oriente. There are 3 working Theras.

The Wobbies have one (it's the thing that launched a ton of spectral fighters and blew the shit out of the Minnesota Tribe dig at the beginning of ISP3).

The Ravens have one (this was the Wobbies other stolen one that got captured)

The Regulans have one (This was what they used for orbital bombardment and fleet support all the way to Circinus. It was the cover for Final Reckoning)

>>53046675
As in an original version of the TRO had era-inappropriate weapons? Any idea which ones?

>>53046694
I don't know. What's the Lyran supership supposed to be?

First section I looked at was FWL and enjoyed it.

>>53046599
The Forge is effectively just an Awesome that can go 4/6 and packs some backup weapons so it's not in trouble if something gets close.
Use it to support thuds and warhammers and it will do very well

>>53046787
>As in an original version of the TRO had era-inappropriate weapons? Any idea which ones?
Blazers are the HPPC replacement, and I can't remember what was the SNPPC one. Probably an ERLL.

>>53046812
That's part of why I liked it. Reminded me of a sorta combination of the ideas behind the -9M and -9Q Awesomes. The fluff fit the faction well, very brass tacks where it had to be and not even written as a sure thing. Plus while it seems to use the Marauder chasis for its basis visually it also reminds me of the Talos.

>>53046836
I'm going to have to check out which designs got blazers and see if I could upgrade the weapons for fun Dark Age refits.

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>>53046599
>Did anyone here contribute to it?
Yeah. I wrote a few of the entries and edited the rest, plus I did a bunch of playtesting with some of the crazier shit (notably the Diesel Thunderbolts and the Aurora).

The guy who did the record sheet automation program for us used to post here, but he developed a case of severe jimmie-rustling when CGL wouldn't acknowledge his genius. Then he moved on to Robotech Tactics and got banned from their forums too, and is now theoretically writing his own game but mostly being an ass-blasted little bitch on Facebook. It's a shame, because he's damned industrious, but the dude is a serious attention whore.

As far as the art side of the house, we got Alex/FD and Chris D./TGXarbala on board at various points. Both of them have also moved on from posting here, but they were recruited while they were still active 'channers.

>>53046787
Yeah, there were several designs where we swapped HPPCs out for Blazers. Not everything with a Snubbie got an ERLL - regular LLs worked better for some of the brawlers, and others got different swaps. The Culverin got completely re-written in the final hours of work because the original designer (the one who got fired for ripping off art) didn't pay attention to the correct layouts for the equipment per art.

>>53047358
I really like the Diesel Thud. I find it funny how fans have a better feel for a faction than the official writers do.

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>>53047358
>Diesel Thunderbolts

Band name!

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mad bumpu

What are your favorite regimental insignias?

And does anyone know some besides those in the Arcturan Guards brigade that feature big cats?

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>>53048756

>>53046694
No, that's a Lyran fan TRO

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Anyone know when the Harebrained Shcemes game is coming out? I want to buy the Mechwarrior pack on Backerkit, but I want to know the release date.

>>53049494
Eventually (tm)

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>>53049576
Their website says 2017.

Do they not ahve a definitive date?

C'mon, even fucking star citizen has a schedule, and people meme about how that's never coming out.

I know shimmy did the Shad - has he done the Griffin or Wolvie yet?

>>53038866
To be fair that's a pretty swanky porch

>>53041946
why do you constantly suck his dick? I mean, i don't hate the drawings, but dang. Literally every time he posts you're here minutes later.

>>53043468
oof

>>53043482
ouch

>>53043554
the hits...

>>53043645
keep coming...

>>53046748
The FWL also has one. I don't remember which, but they've got one that's got engines broken or something. Although I recall there being some plot conflict where Oystein went nu-uh, so who knows if it still counts, or if everyone on Atreus is idly wondering what that bright speck in the sky is.

>>53046599
>Huda art that looks good

what is this madness

>>53049857
hurr durr, ignore this, I was being retarded. It's teh REGULAN one, iirc, where it may or may not have vanished into atmo. Oriente's got the busted engine one.

>>53049720
Yes, the Wolverine is in Historical: First Succession War. The Griffin isn't out yet I think.

>>53049494
I know I want to play a half Maori half Urdu half Swedish character. Thanks HBS!

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>>53049776
I was here today before and after he showed up.
And if you're jealous of someone appreciating the charm of someone's work, maybe you should contribute something other than shitposting and maybe someone would appreciate you.

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>>53049776
>why do you constantly suck his dick?

Uh, that's actually a CT-mounted medium laser.

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>>53050069
...so that mech is Drac or Capellan.

>>53049857
>I recall there being some plot conflict where Oystein went nu-uh

Probably the stupid shit about how the Regulans lost the war because of the Seafox Blockade by a bunch of thinly distributed downgraded arcships and cargo vessels when the Regulans could have loaded up the Delos to full compliment, given her a PWS escort on top of that, and kicked ass from Tiber to Tapachula.

I hate so much how that all happened offscreen in TRO:3150. We seriously need a DA update. Why they don't do a Hotspots 3150 or fucking something is beyond me. It would be the perfect book to churn out while they're dicking around with ilClan. Hell, change ilClan to 3155 or 3160 and let's watch the Republic die properly before Homeworld Invasion 2.

>inb4 the Wolf Empire is actually the ilClan

>>53049636
Barring some catastrophe they've said by winter 2017, with a backer beta sometime in the summer

>>53050424

Christ I hope that game just completely fails.

>>53050151
>inb4 the Wolf Empire is actually the ilClan

You know it is.

>>53050151
>he doesn't believe in Devlin Stone
Republic haters are the worst posters

>>53050034
>shitty pencil drawings
>charm

I bet you like Loose, too.

>>53051085

All right. What art do you like? Name an artist so we can shit on your taste.

>>53051064
>Called a Republic
>Not actually a Republic
>Levin replaying the Emperor's "I am the Senate!" scene in 3135
>He's actually a nice guy compared to the shit old man triangle that is Devlin, Mckinnon and Redburn

All the most interesting parts of the Republic died in 3145 anyway, minus Republicstar.

>>53051191
none of them

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>>53050973
Why?

It looks great.

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>>53051085
Home from late remedial classes at school, son?
I can appreciate something like Plog and Shimmy for what they do, and others for what cool stuff that they contribute. If it's good, never be a faggot and dissuade people with talent from adding to the community.
I despise saying this, but what have you contributed? What would make me compliment you for your efforts or being you, other than complimenting you for shutting up?

>>53051202
How is it not a republic?

>>53051322
No elected representation. The Exarc has total control, even more than the rulers of the Successor States because he doesn't have to answer to other smaller houses or warlords. He appoints the regional governors, names new paladins and knights, and so on. The Senate was purely an advisory forum with no power whatsoever, and Levin even disbanded that.

Why do you think the old planetary nobles got so fed up they started the massive civil war that caused Fortress to be raised in the first place?

In fact, the only functioning republic in the entire Inner Sphere is the Free Worlds League.

>>53051282

It's pulling money and focus away from the Battletech board game, like Alpha strike does. Plus it'll bring Battletech to a lower common denominator, and I don't want those people playing my game.

>>53051429
>I don't want those people playing my game.
I do, as long as it's actual Battletech. Alpha Strike can go fuck itself.

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>>53049494
>Anyone know when the Harebrained Shcemes game is coming out?
>>53049636
The beta was supposed to be out Q1, but there was a major update to the shitty platform they're using to program it and everything got fucked to hell and back.
Latest update said they were back up to Alpha functionality and Beta would be sometime in the next couple of months.


>>53049720
>>53049913
>I know shimmy did the Shad - has he done the Griffin or Wolvie yet?
Yes, both. There was even a prototype mini of the Griff at PAX last year. Also, note the Beemer and Locust.

Right now we know of at least nine Shimseen minis being finished (Locust, Wasp, Valk, Shad, Ostscout, Beemer, Whammy, Griffin, MAD), but IWM is holding out on releasing the big ones until Catalyst can get the new boxed set out the door, to drive sales for it. Apparently the "Alpha Strike" box idea has been ditched ($5 says it was the Clan minis fucking things up again), and they're just pooping out another Intro Box since we're in the window for a new one anyway. My money is on them having at least a prototype for Gen Con this year to go with the Mech Manual and then getting the box on the streets ASAP. If Ben fucking Rome quit because they weren't paying him, I imagine that they're pretty damned hard-up for cash right now.

>>53051288
Trolling aside, I don't mind the pencil art at all, but the obsequious fawning by one guy gets old fast.

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>>53051396
>the only functioning republic in the entire Inner Sphere is the Free Worlds League.

Isis Marik ain't the only thing that gets me hot and bothered.

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>>53051396
>the only functioning republic in the entire Inner Sphere is the Free Worlds League.
>FWL
>Functioning
Uh, son, I have some bad news for you.

>>53051429
>It's pulling money and focus away from the Battletech board game, like Alpha strike does. Plus it'll bring Battletech to a lower common denominator, and I don't want those people playing my game.
How the shit is HBS pulling money away? The money came from Kickstarter and a rather copious personal investment from Jordan. Jordan "I'm never spending another red cent on the tabletop" Weissman, AKA the man responsible for Clickytech. CGL isn't putting money into it, and neither is anyone who'd be spending that money on IWM or CGL products.

As far as focus? Spellfire 2.5 and Randall's ADHD-addled attempts to make an RPG for every comic book and TV show he likes are far more destructive than a bit of Periphery-wank fanfic. And frankly if the fucktards are off writing their little blurbs for the characters in the video game, it's better than dealing with them writing shit of the same caliber for BT, would you not agree?

>>53051548
Uh, I appreciate the sketch guy with the wall of mechs he makes, and say so. Also I do the same for sprite-bro.
Again, other than you shutting up, tell me something you contribute. I'd like to know. You seem like an annoying pain. You add nothing to the game as far as I know. I appreciate that which deserves appreciating. Now I would appreciate if you put up or shut up.

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>>53051448
>hating Alpha Strike

best thing to happen to BT in decades desu

>>53051396
>In fact, the only functioning republic in the entire Inner Sphere is the Free Worlds League.
As a FWL fan, I'm gonna have to correct you there. The FWL has pretty much been in a constant state of "official emergency" for approximately forever, which means the emergency powers of the C-G makes it a heriditary military dictatorship which hasn't been able to liquidate that annoying bit of civilian governance.

>>53051473
>If Ben fucking Rome quit because they weren't paying him, I imagine that they're pretty damned hard-up for cash right now.

wait what

how do you even function when the only guy developing product quits cause his check's a year late? Like, how can they hope to produce a box set?

>>53051612
It's just the same hitpoint garbage as every other large army game. I play Battletech to play Battletech, not the Battletech skin mod for 40k or Warmahordes.

>>53051599
the fuck do you do? This is 4chan, one cunt can say he doesn't like another cunt without you trying to act like you own the thread and posts must have your approval.

>>53051623
Eh, the Parliament has still had major impact on events the whole time, to the point of forcing out Captain-Generals. The only reason the CG position is so tied to the Mariks is because Parliament insisted on it way back when, and Parliament did disband the FWL post-Jihad. And wooing and reshaping Parliament was a major factor in resurrecting the FWL, with Jessica aiming to make votes actually matter beyond the large state voting blocs.

>>53051623
The laws passed, budgets and all the normal congressional business is still done by the FWL parliament. Captain-General is basically just president-for-life taken one step further. It's still very much a functioning republic.

>>53051705
>>53051711
Hell, just look at how little control the CG has over troops. The FWL can't be a military dictatorship when the CG can't even use the military to conquer enemies, let alone keep people in line back home.

The League also isn't noted for its oppression or secret police or anything. ERveryone else has official state-sponsored terrorism agencies that are set up against their own people. SAFE only fights megacorps, who aren't really people, and Lyrans, ditto.

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>>53051632
Check out his Word Press. Among the more revealing quotes:
>if you happen to be involved in development of a venerable game line someday that actually has money to spend.
=======
>As of today, I am no longer the Assistant Line Developer for the BattleTech game line. Furthermore, I am no longer pursuing or working on any contracts for the game, or the company that licenses it.
>There’s a lot of reasons why, but though I have every right to air them out here, I will not.. I’ve hinted at things here and there, in vague phrasing and comments. That’s more the explosion of frustration than any malicious intent, so take it all with a grain of salt.

Then he spent a big chunk of another post bitching about CGL shitcanning and combining products that should have been full individuals because of lack of time/funding/correct management, and about feeling abandoned as ALD while Randall fucked off on something else but wouldn't let him make actual decisions or move things forward on his own.

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>>53051672
>the fuck do you do?
I gave some help to the booru, I contributed a small bunch of things that the guy who runs that second to last pastebin put in the pastebin, and I introduce new players to the game and teach them in my area.

>This is 4chan, one cunt can say he doesn't like another cunt without you trying to act like you own the thread
You did this exact thing because you were upset I appreciated someones work. You are projecting and literally describing yourself.

>and posts must have your approval.
And you bitching about someone wanting to take some time to show approval of other people's efforts is what you were bitching about in the first place, because too much appreciation don't hold your approval.

With an attitude like yours, I would not only kick you out of my games, I would have called the cops to have you removed. You're just an ass and there is nothing I can do with a person like you. You are literally describing your own crap behavior. I'm done with you. I'm known for being a very amiable guy, but some people are just you.

>>53051878
I'm not actually the other guy, I just hate people who think they can be thread police. Go to reddit if you want that experience.

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>>53051878
ha ha oh wow

Calm down before you go into cardiac arrest, grandpa.

>>53052421
but don't you see, anon? you're policing his thread policing, and only he can be thread police

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>>53051878
Don't sweat the Assblast McGees, anon. I'm with ya.

Remember last Friday, I think it was, when there was zero shitposting? Slow, maybe, but high signal:noise. Good times!

>>53052421
>I just hate people who think they can be thread police
Which, if you read his post, means you agree with him, and should've joined forces to after the first guy. Unless you're like >>53052518 and solely in this for 'teh lulz'.

>>53052421
>they can be thread police
How is he being the thread police? He was jumped on because that other fag didn't like him being friendly to an artist, who was adding something to this dying money sink hobby. The fag jumping on him was policing him.
>Where do you think you are.jpg

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>>53052518

You inspire me with your humour, anon.

>>53052742
>that other fag didn't like him being friendly to an artist, who was adding something to this dying money sink hobby.

Nobody should add to it. Just let it die. It was never good in the first place.

Is Wolf and Blake in the archives? Couldn't find it

>>53053525
Should be. Look under Starterbook

>>53053589
All I found was Sword and Dragon

>>53053715
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/sdckg6j645z4j/Battletech

I just wish we had a copy of Total Chaos.

>>53053765
Thanks, I wonder why it wasn't showing up when I Ctrl-F'd it

>>53053765
>I just wish we had a copy of Total Chaos.
It's in J. Blake's stash, under "Rules". 'Cause it has the most recent Chaos Campaign rules innit.

>>53053931
Fucking sweet. I've been looking for a pdf copy of that for like three years. There's some fluff in it about Blakist secret base stuff that relates to the Dark Age I've never been able to read firsthand.

I hate when important shit gets tucked away in something like that.

>>53051282
For me? Lack of modding support. So even if they completely fuck it up, they're not offering the community a chance to do better.

>>53051085
I actually liked the style that TRO 3025/3026 were made in that felt far less like a "Monster Manual" for battletech, more like a recognition handbook, and would love to see loose sign back on now that he's got 30+ years of experience under his belt.

>>53054833
I'll agree this is a bit silly when their Shadowrun games all have it.

>>53054846
That's what they said when he signed on for 3058. And apparently that experience kinda soured him on working on BT all over again.

>>53055029
Luckily, it sounds like he's taking a stab at making vees for the HBS project. Those'll be nice to see. We've already seen the Striker tank...

>>53054846
>>53055029

Isn't he dead?

>>53055479
No. And his website is hilariously self-aggrandizing

http://dloosedesign.com/

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IS dream theater, aka what will never happen.

>>53055497
Has he drawn any mechs recently?

>>53056703
Not that I know of; just a few vees for the HBS Battletech game. I'm curious what he could do if let off the leash of the traditionally terrible FASA/CGL art direction. It's getting better now, but I doubt they could coax him back after people were literally threatening him over the Bushwhacker. Which wasn't his fault. He draws what he's told to draw, same as the rest of them.

>>53056760
>people were literally threatening him over the Bushwhacker
What the hell happened?

>>53056814
>BattleTech fans

All you need to know, really.

>>53056814
People failed to place the blame where it needs to go: with the people who've been running this game into the ground continually for decades

>>53056877
>>53057040
This game's fans make it harder and harder to convert some of my guys into playing. Add to that the anal asses above giving people crap for saying they like someone's art, and some of the political crap that happens here about a game in imagination land I'm starting to get migraines over a damn hobby. I used to tell some friends about this place being better than the forums, and they've noticed I haven't said much about this place in months.

>>53057207
Problem is, a bunch of the OF people came here and have since made it shitty.

>>53057721
>Mechcommander Hunchback pilot ejecting.gif

>>53058336
>nigga runs away first instance of getting hit

ayy liao

>>53058457
Well it's the first time someone of his visage was overtaken by someone with a better extended range than him.

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Morning bump for Star Wars day. May the Fourth be with you.

>>53059430

>Needs a picture of ewoks knocking over a Locust to properly bridge the gap.

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>>53059621

... or one where an Archer looks genuinely surprised that an AT-ST strode confidently in between him and his lancemate piloting a Thunderbolt.

>>53059430
It's been decades and I still can't find a suitable explanation as to why air speeders need a tow cable that can drag something behind by several hundred feet.

>>53059621
I remember someone on /tv/, I believe, talking about how them Ewoks were a lot more dangerous than people realized. Something about them being a furry forest Vietcong cannibals or something.

>>53059679
I always thought that was a Flea myself...not that there's a difference.
>>53059701
The speeders were originally civilian designs meant to tow cargo. The blasters and armor were added on by the rebels.

And I can fully believe ewoks are dangerous cong cannibals.

>>53060116
>I always thought that was a Flea myself...not that there's a difference.

It is (notice the file name), but yeah, not much of a difference, huh?

I was never really fond of the other weird light mechs like the flea that seem to have strange combinations of weapons like small lasers and flamers that required them to get *closer* to the enemy where they were certain to meet their doom. I guess I just can't appreciate the "war crimes" aspect of them.

>>53060300
It's more one of those collisions of fluff and the historical wargaming aspect of BT wit the crunch.

Logically speaking, small lightly armed and armored mechs make sense for anti infantry work since the intended target lacks heavy vehicular weapons, but the way the rules work means lightly armored shit will just get chewed up because armor doesn't prevent damage but just determines how much you can soak up.

>>53060300
What you can't appreciate was that those flamers used to be able to instantly destroy a infantry platoon, elemental point, or schrek if the target didn't make a saving roll of 8 or better.

You change the rules and suddenly design ideas that banked on those rules seem dumb. Like the ones with stacks of Streak 2's from the early 90's.

>>53061842
Flamers can still do 2/3 of those things, you just actually have to be using the rules for fires, which were always optional, but not off in a separate rulebook.

>>53062318
Roll 4D6 for damage vs. Roll an 8 or better or you all die is a big difference.

>>53062456
Yes, and the 8+ or die effect has always been the result of being in/traveling through a hex on fire, not simply being attacked by a flamer.

>>53061842
Don't infantry do more damage now too? That is the nail in the coffin of the infantry-engaging light 'Mech.

>>53063266
They basically doubled it for the default type, but then also changed it to a cluster type system. Used to be a rifle platoon did 7 with max men.

Random question but if you can fit it and the age permits it, are RAC/5s just better than UAC/5s most of the time? They basically let you go full Dakka when shit hits the fan and can just be slightly shorter-ranged UACs most of the other time.

>>53063723
Ultras are garbage in general. That goes double if you use rapid fire rules for vanilla AC's. Take any other kind of AC instead.

>>53063723
>Random question but if you can fit it and the age permits it, are RAC/5s just better than UAC/5s most of the time?
I'd say the two are too different to really compare on an even playing field. I'd prefer an RAC over a UAC in 99% of cases, but I'd prefer a fucking grilled cheese sandwich over a UAC/5 in 99% of cases.

Going from 7/14/21 to 5/10/15 means that the RAC is firmly midrange, so a lot better for brawling and worse for sniping.

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>>53063940
I mean, grilled cheeses are pretty goddamn good

>>53063723
like >>53063940 said racs are mainly for mid-range to close range bullet spewing while the ultra (while garbage) is more suited to sniping.

That being said, I honestly prefer the ultra over the rac simply because of the range advantage

So, checking back in to Battletech General after a year away. Is there anything meaningfully new with the game, or is this just still the irrationally angry anon containment thread?

Does NEA still visit here?

I wanted to ask him about the Mjolnir and Avalon cruisers.

Also if he thought the Illustrious or Essex class carrier was better in WW2.

>>53065135
>Even asking this before Gencon

But uh, the new mainline rulebook and the First Succession War historical are the major ones if you haven't got them.

>>53065352
Not him but what did you want to know about those warships? The Mjolnir is pretty damn mean and the Avalon is plain old tough.

>>53065352
I can make a guess/claim /help with the second part. Built for different things the Illustrious was modified very heavily to do what the Essex did out of the box. (Serve open water ie Pacific)
I think non US carriers weren't as good/cool but the rest were far from trash and built for different uses. They seem to get a bad wrap though.

>>53065352
I think he's working on a film right now, so he's probably going to be back in a week or two

>>53065480
Kinda comparing the Mjolnir and Avalon. Which was better at ship to ship combat, etc.

>>53065568
That is a helpful summation. Thank you.

>>53065792
Gotcha.

>>53066013
The Avalon was basically built to survive an engagement as a lone flagship and use screen launchers to stay fairly nuke proof. It's an excellent design against standard fleets when it has the proper support.

The Mjolnir is built to kill enemy warships. It's got speed, big guns, and a shit ton of advanced armor. She'll kill just about anything short of a Leviathan in just ship-to-ship.

Basically, the Avalon makes a beautiful core for a proper aero fleet and the Mjolnir is a giant hammer that beats down anything big enough for it to strike into submission.

Now load the AR-bays of the Avalon with Alamos and you might have a more interesting fight.

>>53065792

Wait, he actually works on movies? I thought that was all internet bullshit, he's never posted any proof that wasn't digital and therefore automatically fake.

>>53066410
If memory serves me right he posted a picture of him with scarlet johanssen

>>53067304
He's baiting for information, delete this right now

>>53067518

Sorry. I don't know what I was thinking.

>>53067649
Toast the imgur album too, to be sure

>>53067724

Can't do that.

Can someone repost what was deleted?

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>>53067518
>He's baiting for information

It's a trick... get an axe.

>>53063495
Yeah, that's unholy death to bug mechs.

>>53068105
here you go:

>You do realize that you're on a website where literally the only way to share information is digital, right? That if you aren't willing to accept evidence in a digital form, you're completely impossible to convince?

>He likely wouldn't thank me for sharing it, but he did post stuff on Imgur very occasionally, and did a work stories post last year. That's a lot of very specific data to be faking it.

http://m.imgur.com/gallery/Q0M3O

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>>53064010

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>>53064010
>I mean, grilled cheeses are pretty goddamn good

There are rules for them in Car Wars.

>>53068981
It makes me happy that I'm not the only one who thought of that

>>53067304
how is a guy that does that much physical activity still such a chubster?

>>53068528
This is a lot funnier after Burn Notice.

>>53069254

Disabled vet, mang. Dude can't do impact cardio (running and similar), and he's probably shortening the hell out of his life with the amount of painkillers he does take. Our venue in Cincy makes players stand, and he's usually taking two doses of perscription meds each time we have a game just to stay on his feet the whole time. I'd guess he's about 170-180 on a 5'8" frame, which is hardly chubster compared to the vast blimps of most battletech players.

>>53069842
>probably shortening the hell out of his life with the amount of painkillers he does take

TIL

>Our venue in Cincy makes players stand, and he's usually taking two doses of perscription meds each time we have a game just to stay on his feet the whole time.

Fucking savages

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bampu

>>53070075
>Fucking savages

The hell is wrong with taking painkillers if you have to stand for long sessions on an injury?

>>53071721
I'm pretty sure the savages are the ones making them stand

>>53071721
That's an interesting interpretation of that statement.

why does no one ever want to play megamek?

>>53073961
Because it's two in the morning. I'd probably still play you anyway, but I gotta get up in five hours so I have to go to bed. I bet we could get a game going tomorrow at a more reasonable hour though.

>>53074052
I spentt the last 2 days shilling it to 60+ people. I have 2 confirmed downloads, one potential download. And of this only one wants to actually play, the other guy who downloaded did it seemingly just for the map editor.

What's a DA fedsuns unit that uses a lot of BA?

>>53074122
All the regimental combat teams and the light combat teams.

>>53074182
Right, but I mean, are any of them ESPECIALLY noted for BA use?

>>53074225
The old material says they're the ones who were slated first for BA to replace the downright huge numbers of regular infantry that were a massive pain in the ass to transport. This continued up through the Fedcom Civil War and later. By the Dark Age, everyone has gone full combined arms so even mech units like the 1st BoG have BA and tanks attached at the company level.

If you search Battle Armor in FM:3145, you'll get more than one hit in every major formation.

What you won't find is pure Battle Armor units. These aren't clanners or 3050's dracs.

Gherrit, if you see this hit me up in IRC

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>>53073961
I'm shit at Battletech and not worth playing with or against.

>>53051429
This guy for real?

What is the FWL's battle armor corps looking like in 3145? They still getting by with the Achileus and Phalanx?

>>53074832
Regulans get the Ogre
Oriente gets the Leonidas
Marik-Stewart had the Xiphos but that production is now in Wolf hands.
Andurien just has to suck it up that they saved the space dragons instead of getting battle armor.

They got fucked with stuff like the Achileus and Phalanx because those production centers were places like Gibson that got glassed and Irian who had a ton of it's factories tractorteched by Stoners like Kalidasa.

The Achileus and Phalanx have been OOP for over fifty years by the time you're asking about it. They're still around in a few places like Oriente but very rare.

>>53074653
I can understand the sentiment.

I still remember the lil shits that started playing bt after playing mw4 poor job FASA Interactive did introducing new MW/BT fans to the universe. "'Kay, so the scenario is in the War of 3039..." "COO DO I GET A MAD CAT?"

On one hand, it's shortsighted to actively wish a game to fail so you don't run the risk of that kind of bullshit happening again(like it already has with MWO...), but it's kind of understandable.

>>53074832
Here's everything I could find that they might reasonably have when I was investigating a while ago

Kopis Dark Alley
Kopis AI
Kopis AI Mk II
Kopis AI Mk IIr
Kopis Mortar

Xiphos A
Xiphos B
Xiphos C

Ogre Standard
Ogre Interdictor

Phalanx A
Phalanx B
Phalanx C
Phalanx D

Leonidas David
Leonidas Firedrake
Leonidas Sensor
Leonidas TAG
Leonidas MG

Longinus David
Longinus Flamer
Longinus Laser
Longinus MG
Longinus Magnetic

Quirinus David
Quirinus GL
Quirinus MG

Achileus David
Achileus Flamer
Achileus Laser
Achileus MG
Achileus TAG

>>53075223
It is not understandable, you both are huge elitist cunts that are worse to play than the people you're complaining

>>53075814

You say being elitist like it's a bad thing.

Face it, for every one good player the video games or an "easier" ruleset like Alpha Strike brings in, it brings in 10 players we're better off without. Becoming popular is the worst thing that can happen to a wargame, because that's how you get fanbases like W40Ks, Warmahordes, or X-wings. The best rulesets are always the ones with a small but dedicated groups of fans who are willing to put hurdles in the way of entry so that the shit players don't want to expend the effort coming over the hurdles. There's a middle ground between obscurity and popularity that the best wargames all occupy, and it's a damn public service to make sure Battletech stays in that middle ground where it can still at least pretend it's good.

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So which one of the Lao Hus is more canonical?

Digitigrade with backwards knees like in mechcommander 2 or Plantigrade like the TRO and original miniature?

Does the FWL still hate prosthetics in the DA?

>>53076565
>Digitigrade with backwards knees like in mechcommander 2 or Plantigrade like the TRO and original miniature?

I think the Mechcommander 2 version *looks* cooler, but that's not what you asked. I vote for plantigrade.

>>53077301
I gotta agree with anon here.

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Do show me on the Warhammer, where did Harmony Gold touch you?

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>>53078090
>Do show me on the Warhammer, where did Harmony Gold touch you?

Right Torso

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>>53034727
Tbh, Battletechs weapon balance and design needs a rework

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>>53076565
>Digitigrade or Plantigrade

It's scary how important this discussion is to furries.

>>53079078
I want pictures like this painted on a massive church's ceiling on Tharkad.

>>53079078
All these years, and I'm just now noticing roy calbeck under the foot of the Atlas.

>>53076891

Even moreso than before, but I think by 3145-3150 it might have lessened a little.

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>>53079269
>roy calbeck

I had to google that. Maybe after a few nights of restful sleep I will forget that those words mean anything when arranged in that order.

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>>53079103
>I want pictures like this painted on a massive church's ceiling on Tharkad.

I understand the near-universal disdain for furries, but it seems like /btg/ has some extra-special hatred going on here. Did I miss something during the 25-odd years I wasn't paying attention to this game?

>>53080007
I'm an old fuck, and well... ex gf who went furry, crazy ass black guy from TGWTG, and just others I have run into. They creep me the hell out. I have not one furry that hasn't been pants crappingly insane. For me, it's kind of stress relief.

>>53080007

Well, there was the furry who tried to have his fursona inserted into the canon fluff, and when that didn't work he sued CGL for ownership of the IP with the intent to make the entire BT universe 100% furry. That may have something to do with it.

>>53080007

A furry tried to gain control of battletech with a legal battle.

I am not even kidding.

>>53080007

Roy Calbeck tried to sue Topps for ownership of the entire franchise. His reasoning was that a bunch of munchkiny fanwank he wrote for the ELH and submitted for sale to FASA was never published, but it was put on a fansite that in turn eventually became the official BT website, where it remained for a while after the transition to official status. As such, this makes the material itself official, and of course from there, using non-Euclidian moon logic, that meant he had a legal right to ownership of the entire BT franchise.

It would be largely laughable except that the general assumption is that his antics got the ELH largely destroyed in the Jihad as part of BT's general (albeit, well-justified) scorched-earth aversion to anything remotely regarding IP/ownership controversy.

>>53080265
Can you hop on the IRC and explain why best clownbot Akuma lost Distracting?

>>53080349

Distracting is dumb and I tried to purge it with fire whenever possible. I hate that a goofy face is somehow going to fill your opponents with fear.

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>>53080401
Yeah but I always put it on pic related.

>>53080421

I would allow Distracting x2 for that.

So Field Manual: Update mentions two Nova Cat clusters from their Zeta Galaxy that took off with dropships and jumpships during the first Ghost Bear war and haven't been heard from since. Deserted, as it were. And from what I recall Zeta was made up of all the homeworld survivors from the abjurement and general malcontents unhappy with the Clan siding with the inner sphere.

I've asked on the OF, and as far as I can see the final fate of these clusters was never written.

What might be some fun campaign ideas for their fate? Adventures they might have, where they might go.

>>53080468

While recharging their K-F drive in a planetless system, a Nova Cat Warrior disregarded protocols and flushed a vacuum toilet improperly, venting the JumpShip into space and killing all aboard. The personnel about the DropShips (the civilians and children) were shielded by bulkheads from the explosive decompression, but with no planets in the system and no FTL-capable ships left, they slowly and painfully died alone and unlamented in the emptiness between the stars. The children died last, extreme dehydration meaning they couldn't even cry as they curled one last time into the lifeless arms of their parents.

Enjoy your fluff.

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>>53080401
>I hate that a goofy face is somehow going to fill your opponents with fear.

I could try to fix that.

>>53080711

Nice. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the Akuma's japanese demon clown grin. I just love that apparently mechwarriors think "The Arbiter looks like a big mech -- flee for your lives! The Fafnir *is* a big mech: meh".

>>53080468
My personal instinct would be to establish them as a psudo-clan bandit kingdom somewhere, and perhaps their descendants rejoining the spirit cats one day

>>53080933
I like all the Combine's Japanese mechs. A big improvement fluffwise over the original mechs like the Panther.

>>53081229

Yeah, they're fun. Adds a nice bit of faction flavour. It's too bad the other Houses don't lend themselves to that sort of thing, image-wise.

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>stiletto
>no high heels

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>>53082527
>no high heels

Like those would ever be practical on any kind of armoured combat suit!

>>53082527
I know you're shitposting, but a stiletto is a kind of knife, too.

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>>53082586
They help push the front torso out more.
>>53082610
Yeah I know. It was a joke.

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>>53082645
>locust
>doesn't eat crops
there

>>53082527
would a stiletto with mechanical jump boosters HAVE stilettos?

>>53083064
I don't know, but that's SCIENCE! FUND IT!
Which faction would field it though? MoC?

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>>53082957

I've always hated that illustration. I feel the same way about this one.

>>53082957
>Atlas
>doesn't hold up the sky

>Black Knight
>isn't INVINCIBLE (or a loony)

>>53084340
>isn't INVINCIBLE
It's pretty goddamn tough

>>53084701
not even the toughest introtech mech, let alone invincible

>>53084753
It's quite tough and can fight decently well with out arms and legs.

>>53084753
>Black Knight
>Introtech

Also, the Monty Python memes for it didn't show up in the text until the downgrade retcons.

What's your favorite unit when it comes to the fluff for it? Particularly lesser-known gems.

>>53086223
How lesser known? Because you say somebody like the 8th Orloff here and people will be all like "Fuck yeah, the Scourge." but 90% of the rest of the fandom will go "Who?"

>>53086397
Not who you are replying too but, if 90% who you mention it to won't get it, it's lesser known.

I feel old af when I was mentioning battle tech and someone didn't know who the Crescent Hawks were.

>>53086441
>someone didn't know who the Crescent Hawks were.

They were the Mary Sue merc unit with all the LAMs, right?

>>53086561
Pretty much also the main group in the first 2 DOS games (how I got into BT)
Wonder how many current players don't know the 1st Sommerset Strikers on that matter.

>>53086624

That one's easy. They're the mary-sue unit from the cartoon with the prototype aerospace fighter and who were capable of fighting a Clantech hunter-killer force dispatched specifically to kill them to a standstill while using only intro tech or barely upgraded equipment.

>>53086223
Greenberg's Godzillas, easily

>>53086397
>Because you say somebody like the 8th Orloff here and people will be all like "Fuck yeah, the Scourge."

where does this weird love of the 8th Orloff come from? Literally never heard of them before.

>>53087111
Come on man

>>53087176
what?

>>53086905
>not a single proper sourcebook mention of them since JHS:3072
>last mention of them in a tiny blurb in TRO:3075

Forgotten that long, I can almost feel the ignominious death TBTB will give them when they get reminded they exist.

>>53087111
They're Fuck You Space Trannies and Pirates: The Unit

>>53087360
They did die.

>>53087477
Source? They won the battle against the Falcons.

>>53087578
They weren't killed, but they disappeared in the gap between the jihad and DA. presumably they either got too old for this shit and retired en mass (good end) or were forcibly demobbed and ethnically cleansed by the republic after molesting many children (herb end)

>>53088357
Fun fact. They aren't included on the late-Jihad force rolls but then magically reappear in FM:3085 on Dustball.

>>53088436
They were probably on set when the merc census people came around

>>53088476
Greenburg's Godzillas
Green Ghosts

Coincidence? I think not!

>>53088611
>when gonzo filmmaking goes too far

>>53086397
What did the 8th Orloff do?

>>53088705
warcrimes

>>53088705
Gives people here an opportunity to furiously masturbate to imaginary warcrimes against periphery folks because medron pryde bullied them at a convention one time

>>53086223
Romanov's Crusaders, because being the Knights of the IS Foreign Legion is fucking great.

>>53088905
But the 8th never even fought the Taurians

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>>53086223
>What's your favorite unit when it comes to the fluff for it?

Too obvious? He *did* invent the Hatchetman!

>It is believed the pairing of Kopis suits with Federated Suns Grenadiers will make for a highly effective urban defense squad and plans are underway to deploy two to three squads of these mixed battle armor teams to each planetary militia in the Republic.

>two to three squads
>for an entire planet

OK I know fasanomics and all but fuck off

>>53089187
>Usually only one city worth taking on most rocks in the first place

Your problem is thinking the whole planet matters.

>>53089271
Even for one city three squads is laughable. Even if the city is small, only 500,000 people or so.

And this is the Republic, so a lot of its worlds are heavily populated.

>>53089181
They also have that god awful grand dragon refit.

>>53089292
Read the entry again. Three squads ADDED to every militia, not that they are the whole militia.

The Republic cut off their own hands and feet with regard to most of their forces though thanks to the Stoners. They are supremely underdefended by design. Also, look at the numbers in the manuals. Dark Age also has less mechs than even the darkest days of grogtech. And the Republic is the smallest of those.

>>53088819
So has everyone in BT. Was there something particularly memorable about it?

>>53088905
>because medron pryde bullied them at a convention one time
Also who?

>>53089580
>Was there something particularly memorable about it?

They did it in the sweet spot between the 2nd Succession War and the Jihad when nobody else really was. Or at least, just exceptions like the Screaming Eagles instead of a unit where it's their actual mandate. And also that they did it to people who deserved it, like the MoC.

But mostly it's their Zardoz-tier marching orders and reminding the Periphery that they are the Periphery, and can be fucked with impunity by even a three world proper Inner Sphere substate. Peripherats don't like that. You'd figure they'd quit pretending after one Shadow Division ran roughshod over a whole Periphery State, and a Regiment of angry mercenaries did the same thing to another.

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>>53086223
>inb4 Regulans did nothing wrong

>>53090147
It was the Heart of Blake's fault for having Blake in their name and not being ex-FWL-turned Blakist. Because apparently that's okay with the Regulans for some reason.

To be fair though, the Heart of Blake basically had the same backstory as the Broadsword Legion and we all know how that turned out.

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>>53090147
BLAKE VULT

Anyone willing to submit themselves to the breathless excitement that is the Damage Flowchart? I found a bunch of errors in the current TW/BMM one and would like people to take a peak at a corrected one to make sure I didn't break anything new.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/enrkehtkjap39sp/BM_05%20Damage_Updated%20Flow%20Chart.docx?dl=0

>>53090568
>Fundamentalist Blakists
The Heart less then kindly asks you to leave Poulsbo.

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>>53090718
Did somebody say party at Poulsbo?

>>53090671
>back from set, can't sleep

Change Step 1 from:
>Check off one armor circle on the Armor Diagram in the location (or facing, if a torso location) for every point of damage it takes, until all damage is applied...

to

>Check off one armor circle on the Armor Diagram in the location (or facing, if a torso location) for every point of damage taken from an individual Damage Cluster, until all damage is applied...

The verbiage along the following path (Step 1>2>3>4) allows for a reading that implies that an LB20X hit which puts multiple pellets into the same location causes only a single critical hit (6 pellets went to the same location, so mark off the armor, if there's still damage left, you mark off 1 IS point for each point of damage remaining from the 6 original points; since it was just one hit to the location, roll a single critical hit in Step 4) . Basically, make it crystal clear you need to follow the flowchart for *each damage cluster*, not just for the overall weapon hit.

Otherwise, looks fine. (I am assuming Damage Clusters are defined somewhere. If you're using different terminology than Damage Clusters, change it to whatever it needs to be; I'm sure you get my gist).

>>53080401

I suddenly feel the need to see a 'Mech with 1) a large phallic-shaped crotch weapon and 2) the distracting quirk

>>53090671
to my tired eye, that flow chart looks on point. Well, except that it might lead people to forget to do a critical roll for ammunition explosion damage.

give it to me straight my brother
is BMM (or whatever we're calling the battlemech manual) the reason we cant freaking get TW right now?

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>>53091054

New Thread
>>53091147

>>53090718
lol, Heart of Blake is a bunch of gutless cucks. You got your payment from the Regulans, though.

>>53090809
The ability of the Regulans to get away with that bullshit, even when it killed coalition regiments, will always make me wonder what Regulan was giving herb a BJ under the table.

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>>53084340
I made this years ago for no particular reason.