/btg/ Battletech General!

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Where the archon's daughters at?

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>>52884519
Nobody cares but you, Hanse.

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>>52884519
MoC here. Stop sexualizing your women!

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Ok what do you guys do when you face "that guy" players that MUST WIN at all costs and run the worst armies possible. Like they take the lowest effective BV units smack ton of infantry and outnumber you so much they make int rolls worthless. If you have a choice between not playing at all or play vs these people which do you pick? I honestly am ready to stop playing altogether because of these people.

>>52884519
Dead because in our game some retard blasted her apc with an AC/20 and now we gotta gtfo real fuckin fast.

>>52886001
I'd rather not play. Actually, I'd rather say "yeah, this isn't an enjoyable army to play against, you win" after deployment.

>>52886001
I usually just put the Arrow IV Urbie on the table with a Davy Crockett loaded then.

>>52886001
Don't have infantry spam. Usually just gauss wall. I have three strategies for that:

1) just retreat turn 1. It robs them of their power trip and gives you time to get in another game if someone else is there.

2) bring ASF. It's in TW so they can't complain and they never figure out whether to attack the asf or the mechs.

3) gauss wall up yourself. Then make them come to you if they want a game. This is especially easy because you can just play on your phone until they inevitably sperg out.

>>52883031
I'm starting to wonder if the April Fools joke was what was on the timeline, or the idea that they would have a timeine. DAMIT CGL Just publish a book already!!!!

>>52886001
I pick better friends.

Seriously, these guys are never great people who just happen to transform into total cunts whenever you play BT. They're weak, self-centred assholes first and foremost, one manifestation of which is their need to win in a stupid boardgame, regardless of what sort of enjoyment their opponent has. I'd avoid knowing such people at all, let alone gaming with them.

You might find that others in your group agree with your opinion on him; if so, maybe you can toss the guy.

>>52884512
Muninn got some new job with insane hours

>>52886339
>>52886440
Most of these dont work when its 3025. Ive noticed with the rule changes various infantry in wood/building are total beasts that slaughter mechs and take like no damage unless you happen to have inferno/mg but then pair that with a bunch of camping tanks and you cant get close enough to use those.

I just don't understand why you wouldnt wanna play with mechs in BT. If you want inf and tanks go play WH40k or Flames of War.

>>52887946
Some of us like taking on the big fat bastards and wrecking them despite all the things designed to give them the win.

>>52887094
I missed it. Has he mentioned (without divulging his power level,) what he's doing for work now?

>>52888381
I get that, but god damn does it make for a boring game. I'll give the win just to spare myself the boredom of watching someone move a billion infantry one damn hex at a time.

>>52888417
QQ more.

I fucking hate people who get pissy about people using gauss walls, jumpy fuckers, etc. without laying down any rules beforehand. You think that playing with shit units for lulz is fun; I think doing my best to win vs someone else trying to do the same is fun. Stop being a cunt just because someone is using perfectly valid units. Hell, your bitter ass should be happy the Steiner player is putting Mechs on the table, or that the FWL player is using Archers instead of LRM carriers.

>>52888629
How is saying "watching you move a swarm of infantry one at a time isn't fun, have the win brother" being cunty? How is monopolizing on game actions not being cunty?

BT is a terrible game to adopt a ultra-competitive "win at all costs" attitude towards. There's too many ways to capitalize on efficiency at the expense keeping the game to reasonable time lengths. Most people have no interest in dealing with all that bullshit, so if you can bring yourself to do it, you can win some easy games because folks don't give a fuck at that point.

It's like chasing fatties. Yeah, it's easier and the result is consistent, but you probably shouldn't feel too good about yourself either.

>>52888387
He's an economist who does a lot of contracting, iirc, but what he's working on now, no clue.

>>52889422
Cool. We get all types around here. I like the more mature demographic we get here sometimes. Minus the grouchy crap posting from time to time.

Does anyone know much about the Battletech pods? I have been try to do some research on getting some. Looks like some went up for sale a few years ago but beyond that I do not see any. Would Virtual Worlds be willing to produce some again? I assume whatever production processes they used are gone now.

If unable to buy any what do yall thing the cost would be to have some built? Also What kind of company or group should be contacted for something like this?

>>52890333
JW, your best bet is to talk to MechCorps in Houston and see what they do -- they have the largest collected number of operational pods in the country, and they regularly take them on tours. I'm sure they can get parts or such to keep them running. They can probably tell you where to get some, or how to build them, or have some sort of resources about them.

Speaking of, has anyone been to MechCorps lately? I'll probably be down in Houston July-ish and I haven't been in a pod since I was in one in Modesto back in '09.

Who maintains the fucking booru? Tag the goddamn artists or don't bother.

>>52890861
There is over 11,000 pics, and I am working alone, trying to hold down other work and responsibilities, PLUS I don't know every artist. I have been doing my best with the limited time I have. It's a big freaking job and I could use all the help I can get.
Check the stats on the site. I've done a lot so far, but there is only so much time during the week. I make no excuses and only ask for some more help.

>>52891165
Take this. You could tag "i can fly" but not that it's pretty clearly an FD piece? http://bgb.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=6060

>>52891191
Thanks, I appreciate it. When I get back to my home computer I'll put that in there.

>>52888629
Found "that guy"

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My players managed to salvage this almost completely intact thanks to some failed PSRs. Now what do I do?

>>52892430
Paint it purple and pink. Name it George. Put a smile on it's front torso. Have fun!

>>52892430
Paint it red and gold with a lion on it.

>>52891191
You know you can make a profile and do some tagging yourself. Just use a throwaway email. No personal information is required for a profile.

Also since there is another thread on /tg/ with this, anybody have any stories playing Mechwarrior or the table top of stupid character deaths? Not bad rolls on the dice, just stupid deaths.

Is Clan Wolf still any good or have they gone full retard?

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>>52892430
>My players managed to salvage this almost completely intact thanks to some failed PSRs. Now what do I do?
Pic related.

Seriously, though. If you're not prepared for them to salvage it, don't fucking put it on the table. Next time remember that enemy aces should have Edge to keep the really stupid deaths off.

>>52892430
If you're playing with lostech, then make maintaining it a bitch. Seriously no two bit merc group would have techs who would know how the hell to maintain the sensitive capacitors of a gauss rifle. Also successor states should be falling all over themselves to procure it.

If you're not playing with lostech then this is on you. Like >>52894130 said, you shouldn't give you PCs anything you don't want them to have. You could have the mech have some sort of biometric lock and the PCs have to earn the key, or have it worth a ton on the market/ a bribe for someone like comstar.

>>52892430
Let 'em run wild with it until it breaks down. Gives them the chance to have some fun, without violating the overall spirit of the era (assuming you're talking the lostech era here).

Bonus round: Have ROM pay them a visit asking where they got it and having them mention that the PCs sure have some pretty knees and it would be a shame if anything should happen to them.

If a later era, well, that's harder without being cheesy.

>>52892414
This is a wargame with thousands and thousands of different units, an incredibly rich backdrop to simulate, books worth of optional rules, and a scale that ranges from two people punching each other to controlling entire states engaged in all out war.

And yet somehow for you saying, "People should lay out ground rules for how they're going to play," crosses the line of socially acceptable behavior for the game.

>>52895613
The issue is people who purposely abuse the set value of rules to make the most minmax army possible at the cost of fairness and fun. If you can't understand whats wrong with that, it means you are "that guy".

>>52896124
Yeah, reasonable people understand this as a given, and have probably done already that. Asses take this, consistently work to make the most broken force possible within those limits, then get mad when you point out that they're missing the point. It's pretty autistic: "beep boop, activity was within authorized parameters; unable to understand butthurt".

To be fair, sometimes it is the fault of the other guy though, who just sucks so bad that he doesn't realize that he actually is facing a fair force, but the skill differential between the two sides is so big the loser just whines that the other guy was being "unfair". I knew a guy whose definition of "cheesy" was "anything that I lose to".

>>52893506

It's the Dark Age, anon.

Guess.

Go on, guess.

The only factions that haven't gone full retard are the Bears and Capellans, with Julian in the process of unfucking the Feddies.

>>52893506
>still good

Clan Wolf went full retard after the Refusal War. So more like got good.

In the Dark Age, they neatly reacquire the Exiles and all the Wolf name units except the last of the Steel Wolves. Have the new Black Widow on their side. Took all the interesting worlds of the Marik/Steiner border. Sacked Tharkad. And are well on their way to Terra now that Stone being the dipshit he is, let down the fortress.

All at the cost of being led by the VSD/Kat incest tube baby. This could have been you, Feddies if Vic just gave her the dick.

>>52897397

Exiles got wiped out by the Cockfalcons.

>>52897397
>they neatly reacquire ... all the Wolf name units

I probably seem autistic for thinking this but that's something I wish had happened a long time ago. Way too many Wolf named units buzzing around. The Dragoons should have bought it in the Invasion, or at least permanently in the Jihad. Lingering on just seems dumb. And the Exiles *definitely* should have bought it in the Jihad. As Wardens it would have served their purpose and tied up their story well.

On a different note, how much of the Wolf touman survived the Refusal War?

>>52897419
I just checked. They're still around, just badly mauled. I got confused because all the wolves in the Republic were from exile worlds and places like Arc Royal but just always went on about wolf this and wolf that without any mention of being exiles. Plus a bunch were written like Vlad wolves.

>>52897699
Pretty sure the latest book describes them all as dead.

>>52897644
Eleven proper clusters and a couple garrison clusters.

I was just looking at the back of Falcon and Wolf and I forgot Phelan really did take about half the fucking clan with him. Bears should have fucked the Wolves in the ass and some opportunistic homeworlders should have pounced on both them and the Falcons after that. It's insane they survived.

I mean sure the Jags had a bunch of paper tiger clusters, but they still had several times that force before Bulldog.

>>52897919
The latest book is TRO:3150 and says they're still alive and manufacturing stuff. Malvina hit them at home on Arc Royal in 3146 though so they're even worse off than the meager forces they have in FM:3145.

>>52897940
Ironically all the Jag clusters were retconned away from being understrength so everyone in Bulldog could haul off sweet salvage.

Anyone have that spreadsheet pic of Wolf clan mechs from Revival btw?

>nova cats are dead
>even civilian survivors got spaced by ghost bears because Ben Rome is still butthurt about that leviathan trial years ago

>wolves in exile are still alive

Why god?

>>52898627
Because the Nova Cats in Exile are still alive too.

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Trying something for AU building. Call them out and I'll run this in the background so it doesn't mess with the thread. Independents can't expand but can be taken.

>>52898945
Why not play the old Succession Wars game for something like this?

>>52898751
Who exiled them?

Or do you mean the Spirit Cats?

>>52898945
I'm game to try this. But thread when?

>>52899140
>>52899116
I was just going to have anons just call a faction and planet in this thread and afterwords run it in the background using all the posts numbers that come after. Thought this way was best to prevent gumming up the thread.

>>52899134
Spirit Cats are Nova Cats. They're just the ones that lived in the Republic. Radick was one of the prefecture governors who went rogue.

Actually, I'm trying to think of any governor who didn't go rogue. Replacements like Tara Campbell don't count.

>>52898945
>>52899196
I guess I'll start it out by calling the Outworlds Alliance, homeworld Alpheratz

Although, it might be fun to run this with just completely made up factions, like everyone posts faction names and star locations until you have ten

>>52899525
If anyone else wants that, I can try that as well

>>52896289
>To be fair, sometimes it is the fault of the other guy though, who just sucks so bad that he doesn't realize that he actually is facing a fair force, but the skill differential between the two sides is so big the loser just whines that the other guy was being "unfair". I knew a guy whose definition of "cheesy" was "anything that I lose to".

Reminds me of the gausswall guy that insisted that C3 was cheesy.

>>52899698
Sure

*punches "that guy"*

I'll have no truck with minmax bullshit at my table. If you have to mixmax wank, do it with your ilk.

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>>52899735
Okay, here is the new blank version. Go nuts but try to keep it believable.

After a bit if advice in a AtB campaign I'm playing

Should i run specialist lances or general ones(mix of weights etc)

In 3057, will Clans always wreak my shit by deploying more and better mechs and pilots?

Is clan tech worth the extra money you pay?

Should i consider adding vehicles, aero or battle armour to my 22 mech strong unit?

>>52899950
ok, put me down as spinward baronies, starting from ridgebrook

>>52899950
Duchy of Dirk, starting from Zebebelgenubi

>>52899950

Allied Free Worlds, starting from Odessa

>>52899950
Outlands Republic, starting from New Samarkand

>>52899950
You are gonna need to modify the jump limit thing somehow or else remove a bunch of outlying worlds that are more than one jump from anything, or just declare the outer TC a minor nation, call it the Lastpost Bestposts or what have you and count them and the far out independents as already done

>>52900253
>Should i run specialist lances or general ones(mix of weights etc)
I prefer to maintain lances of the same general weight class, so that everything performs about the same. Also note that some missions will end up spreading your forces out if they have wildly different move speeds. It's no good to bring a 3/5 mech in a lance of 6/9+ if the 3/5 unit won't arrive for 4 turns.

>In 3057, will Clans always wreak my shit by deploying more and better mechs and pilots?
If you start in that timeframe and face off against Elite/A (that is, frontline Omnimechs), then probably. Unless you have clan tech of your own, go for Regular/Green and C or D rated units.

>Is clan tech worth the extra money you pay?
Absolutely. Paying for it is a booby prize, since a good rule of thumb is that you're still paying 2.5x what the item or mech is worth even at 3060. At any rate, Clan tech is very much worth it.

>Should i consider adding vehicles, aero or battle armour to my 22 mech strong unit?
That's up to you. Vehicles and BA have strengths that you can leverage properly, and are cheaper. Aero is a bit more expensive, and if you've never played with ASF before, they can be hard to use.

>>52899950
Terran Hegemony II: Electric Boogaloo, starting on Terra.

>>52900699
Oh wait, I can't have Terra? Fuck that, gimme Hesperus II. Goddamn pinko commies and no Terra.

>>52899950
Zaporozhian Hetmanate, going from Black Earth

Could we get the existing choices indicated on the map so that new people know where to place themselves so we don't en up with like 80% of the map taking) forever to fill in became nobody started even NEAR there?

>>52900733
>Starting less than one jump from another player
It's going to be funny if somebody gets taken out first round.

>>52900907
Nothing's marked, and I can't have the best factory world.

>>52900930
>implying that matters in this strange alternate universe

>>52900901
One guy is on the far end of the Capellan March. One guy is basically on top of Skye
One guy is on the far periphery end of the Steiner/Drac border
And one guy has Hesperus

Steiner space is already pretty clogged up.

Somebody should pick like Wyatt or something.

>>52899950
Gimme New Taurus Alliance, centered on Taurus (or whatever the name of their homeworld is).

Taurians will rise again!

>>52901035
>another guy starting basically on top of another player
This game will be pretty crazy. I can already tell.

>>52899950
Emirate of Kafiristan, from Wisconsin

>>52899950
Blue Valkyrie's Republic on Elidere. I want Ander's Moon or the approximate location thereof.

>>52899950
Kingdom of Numenor, centered on Numenor.

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Ok, there we go. All posts below this one will now be used for expansion. Will post updates when I can.

>>52901613
Blue Valkyrie's Republic on Elidere goes for Misery!
(That's how it's done, right?)

>>52901613
At least add a small circle around the planet so that the zones can be spotted.

>>52901633
The rules state how it works, intended for it to use peoples post number (any post) to determine planet and number of planets taken (i.e. 33 so AFW takes 5 surrounding or nearest planets randomly). We can change it to a full thread thing if people are ok with the thread getting gummed up.

>>52901700
Okay I think I got it. Does my first Blue Valkyrie Republic post count, or this one?

>>52901762
>>52901700

or does every post count, to keep the thread from being us calling faction names?

>>52901762
Both, just go about your business as usual. Post a topic, have a jolly.

>>52901837
Every post, don't want this thread to get turned into just risk.

>>52901837
Every post, even this one

>>52901837
It's based on all posts, not related ones. Just post normally and it'll sort itself out.

Riskanon, please post up the chart every now and then so we can see how we're doing. Especially if anything interesting happens.

A new thread just for risk should be created desu. And then add some different rules to make it more friendly to active postings.

>>52902429
I actually like the passive risk idea, because it completely eliminates the factionfag elements that would plague a conventional battletech risk, and it only needs one person, the OP to run properly

>>52901613
Posting for Risk and...

Got a question for the assembled.
Got a bunch of guys that want to start a unit, most likely a house unit in the early 3010s. They specifically want as many unseen as possible. Are the old scenario books like Fox's Teeth and Gray Death Legion a good place for examples of decent unseen early succession war companies?

>>52902559
they're decent, but honestly more than 8-9 unseen in a company is probably a bit too much.
The problem with some of the really early stuff is that at the time the unseen were literally it in terms of canon designs, so they're not quite the best sources

>>52902559
>Got a bunch of guys that want to start a unit, most likely a house unit in the early 3010s. They specifically want as many unseen as possible.
Two full unseen lances is plenty and perfectly fluffy. Add in a third lance of other introtech stuff and you've got a solid and totally functional 3010s company on your hands. You *could* stretch to a full unseen company, but it'd both be boring and kinda sue-ish, since it doesn't happen much in fluff outside extremely old, now-overridden, sources.

>>52901972
Will do, next one is probably going to be tomorrow though (made sure to mark the post where I am) once I'm out of the hanger[spoiler/]

As a heads up though The Numenor ain't doing too hot

>>52902559
>Got a bunch of guys that want to start a unit, most likely a house unit in the early 3010s. They specifically want as many unseen as possible.
Cool.

>Are the old scenario books like Fox's Teeth and Gray Death Legion a good place for examples of decent unseen early succession war companies?
-ish. The Fox's Teeth and Black Widow Company were both written for BattleDroids. TRO 3025 didn't come out until around the time of Sorenson's Sabers, so it any book after that are going to be a better balance of Unseen and non-Unseen than the stuff before (GDL, Snord, Fox's Teeth, and TotBW). The earlier books only included the Boxed Set Unseen.

Also, keep an eye on the OPFOR in later books for suggestions. There are some pretty cool things in there

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>>52902654
>>52903232
>>52905395
Thanks a bunch. I have them started near Terra and am going to give them pretty much a situation where many of the house notables can end up in their inventory, like for a messed up light lance being an Enforcer, a Vindi, and two Commandos just because.

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>>52906242

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>>52906967

>>52897940

Bears and Horses did fuck the Wolves in the ass, anon. They lost almost a third of their OZ to the Bears and a third of what was left after that to the Horses.

After the Horses finished their turn in the gangbang it was WoB's go.

>>52907157
That was almost fifteen years later.

This is why your Battletech game doesn't get new books


http://dragonfirethegame.com

CGL is busy!

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>>52907935
For a moment I thought Dragon Fire was going to be a table top RPG of the Quest for Glory series game named Dragon Fire, but nope... deck building D&D game.
Like we need any more card games like this.

>>52907935
Crossfire sucks though

>>52908658
Lrn2spell Valkyrie, dumbfuck

>>52908829
Typo. You cock-stain on Christian Weston Chandler's blow up doll. See, I can be unpleasant too. Now let's be friends and ride a bicycle made out of dreams into friendship!

>>52908863
Or you could stop pointlessly namefagging.

>>52909352
I only did this to mess around with the Risk thread. Here:
>>52901613
Read the thread. Reading comprehension is a must if you wish to communicate with life forms above the ape that you are. What crawled up your ass and died? Really. Be nice.

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What planet/faction is the America of BT?

>>52910457
Some kind of say the Suns. I've heard other say the Taurians because Texas (if my memory serves me.) Others will sat FWL because the way the place is set up. I'm most apt to kind of agree with the Taurians and FWL, but Suns works best.

>>52910457
The old Terran Hegemony was closest-ish overall, probably

>>52910927
All those are wrong. The answer is the Terran Hegemony.

>>52910986
Not even probably. A ton of the beat to shit core worlds were settled by actual americans in Battletech.

>>52908658
>>52907935
Woo! We all need more fucking Spellfire!
Joy.

>>52910457
A couple dead ones.

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How powerful are mech sensors?

>>52912797
Extremely advanced, but all the ECM and alien topography bogs them down, especially since they usually don't have satellite linkups since the first thing an invading force does is sweep all comsatts from the sky when dropping in, unless it's a minor raid.

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Bumping thread with a shitpost.

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>>52912836

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>>52912981
Yes

>>52913030
Very nice.
Piranha, ribbed for her pleasure!

Has SpriteBroAnon been around lately? Haven't seen him when I've stopped in.

Battlebump

>>52913160
I've been here on and off. Just been busy. Some niggers moved in next door and they're always partying and never sleep. So loud. And the whole block smells like chicken now. What did you need?

>>52907637

Serpent/Bulldog's fallout kept everyone occupied and the bears were still moving. The attacks happened much earlier than that too, with the Bears starting in the early 60s.

>>52915138
Just wanted to see if you were still alive

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Just got home about an hour ago, up to >>52907637 (lots of 7-9).

>That trifecta

W E W L A D
E
W
L
A
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>>52916405

yessssss AWL, doing hot so far.

Baronies, what are you doing.

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>>52916405
For anyone wondering, these are the jump points I'm using.

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>>52916405
On the plus side, I got Misery!
On the minus, Iagging behind.

>>52916635
And I typoed my own nation's name again. Hurr.

>>52900530
>>52900930
>>52901850
All of these were really close calls, almost had full independent defections. AWL avoided getting shot in the foot twice.

>>52916452
>Baronies, what are you doing.
Not getting rolled, evidently

>>52916769
Wait, sorry just this one >>52901850. Was going back using the thread and saw those two are before the game.

>inb4 trust lost

>>52916405
>CA has the best Lyran factory, Solaris and the best FWL factory
>AWL has both the current Lyran capital and the old one
>Dirk has the Mercenary Star and all the Zebels

Interesting

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>>52897397
>This could have been you, Feddies if Vic just gave her the dick.

>FCCW.hpg

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Baronies finally expanded here >>52908817 and took Die Moot

>At least you have 4chan planet

>>52917328
>Took the Pleiades
New Taurians ain't gonna like that.

>>52917328
Rolling with a question.

Up until 3025, what were Steiner's main light mechs other than the Commando and bugs?

>>52917475
You daft bastard, you don't need to put a name on, and you don't "roll".
read the bloody rules

>>52917475
Firestarter. They're the only state that makes it. Also the Sentinel if you're into bad 3039 retcons.

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2 robits down, 18 to go!

>>52917666
Satan, I'm just having some fun with the damn thread. Go wear a red shirt and go to Star Trek General.

>>52917694
I appreciate it. Wasn't the Sentinel a deal between Comstar and the Combine as well?

>>52917841
Way back when, yes. But now the 3039 stuff includes a bunch of "new production" that gives each house some means to make Star League designs originally thought lost, like the Sentinel, Thug, Highlander, and Striker for example.

>>52917770
...that Blitzkrieg. Well, I suppose it IS Orky as fuck.

>>52916656
>>52916635
>>52910161
commit sudoku. You don't even need a name for this Risk bullshit to work.

>>52917841
>hurr durr muh edge

Yeah, piss off.

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>>52918138
>I'm just having some fun with the damn thread.
What is basic linguistic skills for $100, Alex? Leave the guy alone.

Back to robits.

How easy is it for a Clam Omni to plug in IS tech if they are low on parts, mostly weapons?

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>>52918138
Done. Now shut up.

>>52918313
By old RAW, both IS and Clans ran on separate Omnipods to start (which is why it was a pain in the ass to use the original IS omnis), and you needed to get weapons into the omnipods to fit them to mechs. After that they standardized properly, so as long as you had an omnipod, you can slap either type of weapon in and you're set.

>>52918450
By any chance do you know around what date was the better standardizations? And thanks for the help. Doing a long term campaign.

>>52918730
By the late 3050s, I'd say. There's references to it in MH:3055, but current rules don't talk about omnipods because it's another layer of tracking that's a pain.

>>52917770
That converted gorkanaut is amazing anon

>>52918877
This will help a bunch. I have a copy of Mercenary's Handbook 3055 so I will do my leg work. Much appreciated.

Anybody seen the news. North Korea is going insane and there are literal threats of nukes right now. Other than crazy ass Word of Blake, are there any other Greatest Koreas in BT?

I want to build a Davion tank force.

What would my main standbys be?

>>52919167
Give us an era and a purpose. Some 3025'ers in a combined arms company is going to be different than a company of the Crushers in the Dark Age.

>tfw when never realized the Crushers were named for the Crushers from Crusher Joe for like a decade.

>>52919137
They're literally Post-Xen-Sheng Taurians.

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>>52886001
>>52887946
>>52888417
>>52889218
I'm waaaay too late for this, but point out where your opponent has been ignorant of the rules, page number in the filename.

Unless you're playing BMR or earlier, in which case you deserve to suffer.

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>>52919137
Seconded for the Taurians in most eras but especially post Xin-Sheng.

Actually, for most of its existence, Battletech has kind of mirrored actual international politics in a strange way. But these past two years have been so utterly bonkers, even game settings haven't been able to keep up the pace.

For instance, imagine the MoC getting a Duterte expy... Maybe someone related to Kali Liao that isn't completely insane, just utterly ruthless and uncaring about public opinion. But mostly, someone in charge of the MoC who throws drug dealers out of helicopters (or something equally ridiculous, like bringing back the Urbanmech Firing Squads) would be fucking spectacular.

>>52919409

I see what you're driving at. You've quoted two people there. His point was that with enough units, there's always going to be the majority of the swarmers force in ideal positions. My point was that it takes a massive amount of greater time to move all those units versus a standard four-mech lance. I remember once a guy brought nothing but savannah masters in a 3025 game. I knew where each of my units were going to move before he was done moving a single unit in that first turn. And that guy wasn't a slow player - it just takes time to figure out the movement of a fast swarm, especially with skid checks. It's boring as all hell to play against.

>>52919137
Once the taurians get zapped by the retard ray they're basically nork argentina

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>>52919877
>bringing back the Urbanmech Firing Squads
Wait, this was a thing? (Pic related.)

>>52920490
It was waaaaaaaaaay back in one of the very oldest scenario packs (I think Wolf & Dragon?) one of the character's backstories was that he was on temporary stay of execution, and it absolutely took the time to mention that the threatened execution was to be an Urbanmech firing squad.

The whole book was almost that silly, and took itself entirely seriously.

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>>52920758
One member of the Black Widow Company (Miklos Delius) was put there because he got civvies killed glory-hounding, and Jamie got pissed. Wolf was going to make an example of him, but his dad was a Major and managed to get the dude transferred to the Widows' Fire Lance. Had a janky Archer, wound up dying on Misery saving civvies IIRC.

I happen to have free time, so I'm looking over the AtB doc to update it. Aside from obvious spelling mistakes and noting that some of the BMM quirks are in, but NYI, does anything need a major overhaul?

>>52920758
It was just battlemech firing squad technically.

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Took some time off, now up to >>52916405
Some points:
- AFW had 10 systems take from it by the Hetmanate here >>52913160
- Duchy of Dirk now surrounds Terra
- Numenor finally expanded here >>52916405

Upper left is really turning into a cluster fuck

>>52921675
Somebody give me Irian, Regulus and Atreus. I will make manufacturing worlds great again.

>>52921675

Fuck, I needed those. In danger of losing the open western front now.

Good job Dirk, be the glorious beating heart of the Sphere.

Numenor...get out of the Waffle House and get to it.

>>52921675
It's amazing how much this looks like the Dark Age map.

Wolves owning all the cool shit on the Marik/Steiner border. Lyrans getting double penetrated. The RotS in the middle.

>>52921675
Oh shit, nigga rolling up on the New Taurian Alliance. Gotta fight that nigga any way I can. Get off me, Zaporozhian Hetmanate! I'm free and unique and you can;t stop me!

Also, sorry /btg/ I am drunk as FUCK and not posting clearly. Sorry in advance for any misspellings or other nonsense.

>>52922022
What are you drinking, and why are you doing it on a wednesday?

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>>52919326
>tfw when never realized the Crushers were named for the Crushers from Crusher Joe for like a decade.

... and the Galleon, Siren, Harpy, and Ostall weren't clue enough?

The Dirty Pair made their first on-screen appearance in the Crusher Joe movie. There's a scene where the Crushers are meeting their contact for a job at a drive-in movie, and the movie being shown on the screen in the background features Kei and Yuri making trouble for the bad guys.

>>52922199
Rum and vodka and I have a female friend in town from New York so we're gettin drunk as fuuuuuck and hanging out. I don't work on Wednesday nights anyway so it works out.

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Fuck you chase missions, I have Davy Crocketts.

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Lyran genetics superior to Clan test tube babies.

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>>52918421
>incomplete sudoku

you have disgraced your ancestors. Commit sudoku again!

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Is this a Phoenix Hawk or something that's been modded?

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>>52895274
>>Let 'em run wild with it until it breaks down. Gives them the chance to have some fun, without violating the overall spirit of the era (assuming you're talking the lostech era here).
>Bonus round: Have ROM pay them a visit asking where they got it and having them mention that the PCs sure have some pretty knees and it would be a shame if anything should happen to them.

You're half right. The issue with the King Crab is, it makes a lot of challenges too easy... unless you can make the King Crab itself the challenge. It breaks down after a while, they mothball it and continue on as before, but then [Problem] arises which just screams "a King Crab would stomp this really well." Then you throw them some hints as to where they can hunt down the actuators/repair parts they need (and/or the services of someone who can do the repairs for them) and make the preparation for the final ass-stomping the challenge, with the final climatic ass-stomping itself the violence-orgy cherry on top.

>>52925468
That looks like a combination of Pixie, some Nipponese design from the 1970s and Batman.

>>52918450

There was actually no "old RAW", they just didn't even address the issue at all until the fluff for TR 3058 because until then the IS plain didn't have Omni technology.

At that time they said that the machines made for the Dracs could accept Clan pods but export models sent to other states "accidentally" didn't receive the hardware, firmware, and software upgrades that made it possible. Once the issue was noticed it was rectified in the first major service given to the effected 'Mechs, so one would presume that state of affairs lasted for a grand total of six months to a year.

>>52926124
I could swear there was, I've even got paperwork tracking this stuff. Then again, my dad's group were the grogs that made grogs today look like chumps, so maybe it was all their stuff.

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I never even saw this Kintaro, it got trapped in some back streets and has been skidding and falling over in the dark for six turns.

I may be super late to the party, but I just stumbled across this when looking for music to listen to while MWOing. Figured someone might nostalgia off of it like I did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_smBV2YBtk

>>52926163

What your group is saying is definitely fanon.

You *may* be confusing it with IS standard 'Mechs not being able to accept things contained in an OmniPod which is or was a fluff limitation but has been applied as inconsistently as fuck given that IS characters with Clan-modded 'Mechs have been said to use stuff salvaged from Omnis in other places.

>>52926489
>You *may* be confusing it with IS standard 'Mechs not being able to accept things contained in an OmniPod which is or was a fluff limitation but has been applied as inconsistently as fuck given that IS characters with Clan-modded 'Mechs have been said to use stuff salvaged from Omnis in other places

Isn't omnipods just readymade sections of mech that had all the hardware allready installed and you could plop it in omnimech for refit/repair in faster time it would take to replace normal mechs section with similar hadrware.

I can see IS guys salvaging omnipods, can't install the omnipod itself but take all the hardware out and put it in you mech the old fashioned way.

>>52926627

>I can see IS guys salvaging omnipods, can't install the omnipod itself but take all the hardware out and put it in you mech the old fashioned way

This was how it could be done but was apparently a bit of a challenge. Later they just stopped bothering because it didn't matter whether the OmniPod was hardwired to a normal 'Mech or the OmniPod was stripped out to make the hardware a permanent addition to a new 'Mech.

>Isn't omnipods just readymade sections of mech

Sort of, they are just plug and play things. The fact many if not most or all would require new armour configurations to fit around said pods and/or entirely different limb structures is and always has been blithely ignored.

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Can someone help me figure out why I can't seem to begin refits on mechs in mekhq/atb?

>>52927370
Canon refit kits work fine, but I can't seem to get a custom unit refitted.

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So I hear you guys like Grasshoppers, I'm here to fix that for you.

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>>52928119
Love 'em. Also Urbies are loved around here as well.

>>52928119
>Feeding the Vulcans after midnight

>>52928119
>Precision ac ammo
Does this exist even for AC/10s and 20s?

>>52930732
Yes, all of the specialized AC ammo types exist for all size autocannons.

>>52930859
Awesome. Time to commit AC war crimes.

>>52930941
Just be aware of stuff like half-size ammobins. AC/10 ammobins become 5 shots and AC/20s become 2.

>>52931086
>2 shots per ton
>This is the life that we have chosen

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Bumping with a completed Piranha.

What are some sniper mechs available to the FedSuns?

Introtrech to FCCW eras, preferably.

>>52932045
Jagermech

>>52932045
Nightstar

>>52932045
Jagermech, Hollander, Blackjack, Gauss Centurion, Devastator, Nightstar, Gauss Victor

Just a lot of stuff really. Tons and tons of gauss upgrades of old machines more than those.

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>>52931915

>>52932142
>>52932176
I know they build the JagerMech but how many of those others do they build?

>>52932514
All of them. Federated Commonwealth was unified in production even after Katherine pulled out the Alliance.

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>>52931915

I want you to know how much I appreciate you, and I love every drawing you do. You're truely getting great and I hope you stay with this fandom.

>>52931187
The Banshee 3Q was truly ahead of its time!

>>52932776
Crap. That's not on MegaMek. Was in a fan design? I could use the stats for war crimes purposes.

>>52932952
U wot? That's from TRO:3039. 1 AC/20, 1 SL, 6 tons of AC/20.

>>52932992
Oddest freaking thing. Something must have happened on my end because it's not on my current version of MegaMek, but I just found in a really old version of MM with 3Q seconds ago I archived months ago.

I'll have to check if there is some file problems. Sorry for the screw up.

>>52932543
So they're built on worlds in the Suns too now? Cool.

>>52933478
Yes and no. All of those but the nightstar and hollander were built in the suns, but all the stuff like Norsestorm despite being in Lyran space still sold to the Federated Commonwealth after '56 because they had Commonwealth contracts.

Don't forget the state was reunified by Katherine in '60 too so all the stuff kept crossing borders both ways.

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>>52934468

>>52927370
>>52927380
Which version of MekHQ are you using? There was a bug in the script that popped up back in v0.42.1. It was reported and fixed but hasn't been implemented into a stable release yet. The latest development version is 0.43.1 and it fixed the problem in some ways and borked it in others, for instance mech refits work properly again but ASF refits do not, and warehouse mass-repair no longer works because of some changes they made to (fix) omni-pod mechanics.

The last release without any refit/customization related issues is v0.42 so try using that one and see if the problem goes away.

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>>52934834

>>52933610

Nightstar is built at GM Kathil, though the Hollander was only made in the Lyran half.

>>52932045

Oh, also the Suns built the Pillager for several years at GM Kathil before Loren Coleman found out and had the line converted to something else. Not the NIghtstar, that was already there.

>>52936424
Did the FWL ever build things like the Pillager or Emperor?

>>52937711
Of course not. No patron author, no access to 3058 toys

>>52937711
I believe they built emperors, but nobody liked them enough for gausswall

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>>52931915
You continue to impress.

Guess it's time for an update.

Battlebump

>>52937711
I suspect they were meant to capture Solaris VII, with its Nightstar line, in the FCCW.

>>52933042
It's in version 43.1. Are your filters set correctly?

>>52936337
I thought Norse built Nightstars soo?

>>52942039

They do. Make a version for the Elsies too, one that carries an LB-20 AND a UAC/20.

>>52937711

No. Just imports of the Cerberus, the Cerberus variant, and the Gunslinger.

>>52937895

Probably because the Emperor has two LB-10Xs?

>>52942039

Retconned material is retconned. It went into production at Kathil at or near the same time and before the FCCW.

>>52941960
It was a hard drive problem. Did a chkdsk and things are okay. Something with the file system. Now everything checks out all right when I use the filters. The hard drive was just hiccuping. Time for a new one. 3Q shows up just fine now.

Some of the shit I keep reading in these threads about the 'basis' of IS states.

>Taurians are USA
Its space Spain/Latin America you baboons.

>Fed Suns not USA
Literally have cavalry spurs on their uniforms. They're described in the RPGs as a mix of United Kingdom monarchies and Federal States. Right there in the name 'Federated'.

>FWL anything but Space Balkans
They have a weird UK/Australian style parliament, but thats just because its easier than trying to typify all the shitfest EU democracies

>Any of these 'culture bases' being generalized for every planet in a State
You could probably find small hubs of every culture on each planet. Stop generalising, but if you're going to generalise, do it right...

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>52944693

>>52944693
>You could probably find small hubs of every culture on each planet. Stop generalising, but if you're going to generalise, do it right...
Around Dracs never relax.

>>52944693
FWL is space spain/space italy/space greece

Anyone have the Taurian emblem with a transparent background floating around, before I invest time in cleaning the one I have up?

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>>52945597
I got back to you, Muninn.

>>52943462
>Probably because the Emperor has two LB-10Xs?
There's a WoB/FWL Emperor with twin LGRs

>>52947289
Lol

>>52943462
>Retconned material is retconned.
The Norse plant on Solaris VII is in the original TRO.

>>52943462
>The Norse plant on Solaris VII is in the original TRO.
So's the Kathil plant, actually.

>>52944693
>Literally have cavalry spurs on their uniforms.
Not that I don't agree with the rest of your point, but this doesn't seem unique to the USA, especially in the time periods BattleTech likes to emulate.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spur#History

>>52944693
>>52948449
That's why I play FedSuns.

The 4th Succession War is even like our first gulf war.

>>52913030
>warcrimes the battlemech

>>52949578
Give it to the free worlds league

It's what they're good at

>>52949578
see >>52931915

for finished version.

>>52949716
>tfw Lester will never overthrow that uppity bitch Nikol

Well, he got Jessica and two out of four, and lived through the aftermath. I guess that's better than most. Better than Kirc and Titus put together in terms of being a ruler.

>>52946001
Nice work man. Really loving these.

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Who here loves the Ryoken / Stormcrow?

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I need your opinion, /btg/. Which one of these poses/ perspectives would you prefer for the Incubus?

A) Gun arm raised, free arm lowered with open palm. Looking like a calm gunslinger.

B) Both arms lowered, free arm hand curled into a fist. Looking like a twitchy robot.

>>52951318
Better question who doesn't love it?

>>52951318
I'm a Jag player so it fits in perfectly with any of my forces.

>>52951411
It's too dumpy, plus the original pose was pretty good already. It should look more Gundam, it's only 30 tons.

>>52951318
It's the reason Clan Omnis are feared more than any other, IME. It's fast, reasonably tough for the size, and a Ryoken B can fuck your day harder than a Hunchback.

>>52951411
I love your work, but I'm going to have to pass on both of these. The original was great. I'd rather stick with that profile.

>>52951654
>It's too dumpy, plus the original pose was pretty good already. It should look more Gundam, it's only 30 tons.
I agree with this.

>>52951516
Honestly this. I could accept that someone doesn't like it because of how it looks, but I couldn't understand why people would dislike it mechanically. It's a fantastic Omni chassis and has a lot of good cannon configurations, especially the A.

>>52951411
I like the gun raised pose personally, and I think it looks fine, but I like the blockier, more robust look. That being said I do get what the others are saying, I think the chest could be slimmed down a little.

I want to get into Battletech and I would like to get the introductory box set, but I can't find it anywhere.

Is it permanently out of print?

If so what should I buy to get started?

>>52952551
Check amazon for the box set, as for books and record sheets >>52884367. Solaris skunkwerks is a God send and will let you print out whatever sheet you need. If you want a hard copy of a book then check your local game store. As for minis you're going to have to buy them second hand or from Iron Wind.

>>52952457
>I could accept that someone doesn't like it because of how it looks
And that's why I dislike the Ryoken. It's dopey looking. Mechanically, very solid. Aesthetically, gimme something else.

>>52951318
>>52951516
>>52951575
>>52951654
I heard that the Blackhawk gets increasingly rare as time goes on. Is there a configuration of the Ryoken or another Clan mech that can replace the primary configuration of the Blackhawk with equal or better heat efficiency?

>>52952746
BT isn't a what you see is what you get miniatures game by default, so if you don't have any minis, just scribble a shape suggesting a vehicle on a slip of paper that fits into a hex and indicate which end is forward. No one's really going to care all that much.

>>52953028
>I heard that the Blackhawk gets increasingly rare as time goes on.
The Nova goes out of production in 2921, so yes it does get rarer.

>>52952746
>Check amazon for the box set
>$200

jesus christ

>>52953044
True but it's nice to have the minis.

>>52953257
Yeah...I'm sorry.

I know it's not a huge deal, but I was wondering for a by-the-book table game, how freely are opposing players permitted to examine each others' record sheets? Is there anything by RAW that outlines that or do the rules not touch on it at all?

>>52953800
Unless the unit is hidden according to hidden units, they can't prevent you from doing so.

>>52953800
Only hidden units would prevent that. And once a sheet is relieved then it is open.

What kind of units can hide in an 18-wheeler semi? Can a protomech be stashed in there? What about a Savannah Master?

>>52953257

Anything about a reprint of stuff on the way? I'd like to get the box set, although the main thing I'd really like to pick up right now is the TRO 3039.

>>52953946
Battlearmor, infantry, some smaller vehicles something with a one or two person crew like a Savannah Master, and maybe a Protomech. More could be probably transported by an 18-wheeler, but not hidden. An honestly the Protomech would be iffy, it'd have to lay prone to reasonable fit in the trailer, maybe hunker down and crouch, but it wouldn't be an easy or comfortable fit. Unless it was a quad Proto which I imagine could fit in the back comfortable. Actually having the Society hide a point of quad Basilisks inside a fleet of Labor Caste semis could be a fun scenario.

>>52953257
I've seen it gouged for more on the amazon marketplace. There's an exchange on the official forum that summarizes it nicely.

"$500? What planet are they from?"
"Misery."

Luckily, map sets are pretty cheap.

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Sorry for not updating yesterday, was busy. Went and back checked everything to make sure all the system totals were correct and updated the map a bit. Some notable stuff so far:
>>52917128
>>52917229
>>52917328
What the fuck Duchy

>>52917930
Against extremely improbable odds (AWL being rolled, getting a zero, rolling a 2, and finally rolling a 1d3 to see which faction it takes from), the AWL takes 10 systems from the Hetmanate balancing out the 10 system that the Hetmanate took from the AWL.

>>52944693
>Its space Spain/Latin America you baboons.
Maybe during/after the Jihad when the Junta takes over.

>>52953257
For now just get the Alpha Strike lance packs on ebay, there are sellers on ebay that sell them about $10 a pop and discount the total purchase by either 10% or $3 off for every two.

Or you could buy gashapons, other cheap mechs, or Robotech tactics boxes

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So I traded a bunch of my old D&D stuff for some mechs and vees. What I'm getting;
Wolverine 55T Unseen
Goliath (Quad) 80 Reseen
Locust 20 Reseen
Ostscout 30 Reseen
Valkyrie 30 Reseen
Wasp 20 Reseen
Annihilator 100T AR
Black Knight 75T
King Crab 100T
Thug 80T AR
Barghest (Quad) 70T
No Dachi 70T
Owens 35T
Hatchetman 45T
Longbow 80 Reseen
Warhammer 70 Reseen
Rifleman 60 Reseen
Crusader 65 Reseen
Archer 70 Reseen
Marauder 75 Reseen
Harasser x2
Scimitar Medium Hovertank x1
SRM Carrier x6
Scorpion (unassembled)
Strider 40T AR
Avatar 70T AR
Sunder 90T AR
Ti Tsang 60T AR
Nightsky 50T AR
Gurkha 35T
Bishamon (Quad) 45T AR
Buccaneer 55T
Rakshasa 75T AR
Werewolf 65T S7 - AR

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>>52956025
Some more what he's getting.

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>>52956036
More minis.

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>>52956060
random maps and cards for some of the minis.

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>>52956071
and a pic of what i'm getting

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>>52956117

>>52956117
I'd say you made out.

>>52956117
>>52956147
Holy hell you did well.

>>52956117
Nothing some acetone can't fix.

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>>52926377
>This what the pilot was thinking when fate and lady luck teamed up to double penetrate him and laugh at him

Please post more funny screenshots. I think i remember seeing an Atlas getting oneshotted from an infantryman or something like that

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>>52952551
>I want to get into Battletech and I would like to get the introductory box set, but I can't find it anywhere.
There's still copies out in the wild and at distributors. Ask your LGS to special order a copy, and keep an eye on the shelf; there are at least three copies in Olympia, and one in Tacoma, that I know of.

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I feel Awesome tonight. Anybody feel Awesome?
Just where do you feel your Awesome?

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>>52953612
>True but it's nice to have the minis.
>>52953257
You can also get the Alpha Strike Lance Packs. They're short a couple of minis compared to the boxed set, but you also get a bunch of new stuff. Lance packs are especially good if you plan to play as a Lyran/FedCom or Liao player, since a lot of the cool stuff from 3039 that was left over is theirs.

What are the most common Wolf mechs during the Clan Invasion?

>>52959039

Ice Ferret, Gargoyle, Adder, Timber Wolf, in about that order.

>>52958075
In logistics, of course. Being able to continually pound away at opposing forces without the need for ammo?

Awesome,

>>52958075
>Just where do you feel your Awesome?
wherever she asks me to
best girl is best girl, after all

>>52959793
Clan Nova Cat?

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>>52952529
>>52952372
>>52951654
Being full Gundamu is what made the mech unseen to begin with.

Widened the side torsos and slimmed down the back a bit to give it a similar profile to the original.

>>52963097
>Being full Gundamu is what made the mech unseen to begin with.
Technically it was just because the art was done by an outside company. It's better now, before it felt like it had a muffin top, is all.

>>52963097
Better, but I'm still going to have to make a pass on this one. I liked the original's angular head, the shoulder baffles and the waist hip huggers and more muscular looking legs. Your looks good, like if a factory had to do a redesign a hundred years later with the only parts they could manufacture, but I like the more aerospace fighter-turned-mech better. Nice job though.

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>>52961597
As long as she's not Capellan or a Drac, I'm happy for you.

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Random awesome pencil bro stats battle bump.

>>52963108
>Technically it was just because the art was done by an outside company.

Outside company redesigning VF-1 Valkyrie/Phoenix Hawk. If they were drawing random shit it would not have been as much of a deal but these were all unused concept arts for the redesign of that machine in Mechwarrior 1.

For all intents and purposes, they were just as vulnerable in a court case as the real Studio Nue stuff.

>>52966222
>just as vulnerable in a court case as the real Studio Nue stuff.
No they weren't. VMI was contracted by FASA for the art, and they were a bunch of Studio Nue artists. Just like when they had Nue do Japtech that later got recycled for Solaris, the Mechwarrior 1 stuff recycled for the second liners was no big deal.

The only thing ever vulnerable was licensed art, not contracted art. And the japanese wouldn't care anyway. They were on good terms with Battletech. It was only Harmony Gold that have been total faggots about such things over the years.

>>52966222
>For all intents and purposes, they were just as vulnerable in a court case as the real Studio Nue stuff.
How would they be liable? Harmony Crap didn't have the rights to that other art, did they? I frickin' hate HG.

>>52966755

They weren't, really. FanPro/CGL just decided to change the appearance to prevent it from even coming up.

>>52959181
What would be fifth? So I can make a star of it.

And does anyone have that Clan Wolf spreadsheet pic?

>>52967057
When you have to change legitimate business practices in anticipation of bad guys giving you crap, that's not right. I don't want this to turn into a /m/ Harmony Gold hate thread with what's left of this thread, but I despise them.

>>52967646
What happened with HG was the worst-case scenario, but generally speaking the whole point was to not end up in a situation where other people own rights to the thing you're working on. Novel publishing rights, video game rights, art rights, etc... Even if you have an amenable relationship with whoever controls them now, that doesn't mean that that will always be true, and if there's no clause to make those rights revert back to you, then they could end up with anyone in the future if the company you licensed them to, for example, goes bust and has to sell them off to pay their debts or whatever.

As much as people complain about the WK/FP/CGL era, at least some of their problems have legitimately stemmed from FASA making money exclusively licensing its IP. Some of BT's biggest publicity in the came from other companies who eventually stopped releasing products under those licenses but got to sit on what they controlled, because even if they couldn't make profitable products, the rights to do so were still potentially profitable.

IP is a fuckscape.

Confession time, since it's the very end of the thread
I actually really enjoyed palladium's robotech RPG and their wacky improvisations on the setting. It would actually be a pretty great setting to play battletech-style Robots Doing Fights games in

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>>52967976
You aren't the only one. A lot of us are closeted Robtech/Macross players, and this thread has/had somewhere in the neighborhood of $5-10,000 invested in the kickstarter for RRPGT. Depending on who's online atm, anyway.

It's a shame that what COULD be a legitimate competition between RRPGT, Alpha Strike, and Warmahordes has been handicapped by Palladium being.. well, Palladium, and Catalyst's ongoing porchbux-cum-laude bullshit.

>>52967976
I agree. When he's on the up part of the cycle, Kevin comes up with some excellent RPG shit

Prefer chicken mechs to humanoid ones desu

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>>52967192
Are you thinking of NEA's tally of the 'Mechs from the Jade Falcon sourcebook, or some other, older spreadsheet?

new thread
>>52968549

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Kit bashed some turrets out of spare parts for use with a AToW session next week.

Going to represent an SRM turret, an LRM turret, and a pair of Medium Laser Turrets. The SRM is from those cheap plastic mech sets, the LRMs are from Tau Battlesuit spare parts, and the Lasers are unused Robotech RPG Destroid arms. Centre parts are from Gundam Models and unused stands from a piece of Ikea Furniture.

Think I might need a bit more height on them, either with bases or with more structure.

I wanted them to look like MechWarrior 3 turrets, but I'm pretty far off them. I'm happy with how they turned out though.

>>52968546
Maybe I was thinking of that. I misremembered that there was one for the Wolves.