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Previous thread: >>53006041
Archives and other resources: http://pastebin.com/vrqYhnpu
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>>53014504
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>>53014536
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>>53014393
Looks good so far. Will Nyarlathotep be included?

>>53014608
Honestly, I'm tempted to agree with this.
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>>53014634
Yes he will be. It's based on the boardgame of the same name, so it will have all Old Ones and other beasties present there.
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>>53014702
Sweet. Not super-knowledgeable about the Cthulu mythos, but Nyarlathotep is my favorite.
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>>53014496
Mental Illness CYOA for all your dependent waifu needs.
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>>53014738
Is Luby just missing an arm or anymore body parts?
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>>53014769
She lost her hand and legs. It says so right in the description.
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>>53014496
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>>53014702

This is important, Will there be a shoggoth?
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>>53014789
Get better weapon pictures. I reccommend looking for pictures of the "Godwyn-De'az" bolter types, and colored pics of weapons actually used by the Sororitas.

I also reccomend you don't squash the pictures. Also: include power weapons. Include pictures of the power armor sets of each of the Orders.

Other ideas: include a "faith point" system. Maybe you can buy upgrades based around special powers? Like 5 points gets you increased vitality, 20 points gets you some kind of "bane of daemons" miracle, and 100 points turns you into a living saint.
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>>53014723
Not too much need for in depth knowledge. The mythos makes a convenient backdrop for the game than anything else.

>>53014932
Yup.
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>>53014919

https://pastebin.com/4dkW0n83
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>>53014964

>Yup

Great, now I don't need anything else and let the other old ones or whatever kill themselves
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>>53014738
In honor of autism, I'm going to give this one a try.

Illneses: Social Anxiety, Depression.
Cause: Psychological.
Medication: Work.
Potential waifus
Nat Prosser
I can't say no to a smut peddler. Smut peddlers are my second favorite type of person.
Karon Samford
I've had IRL experiences with someone like her. I could probably genuinely help her.
Brit Basavappa
I can deal with people smoking weed around me. The double suicide might be an issue though.
Inb4 "look at Onion only picking females because they're a neckbeard whiteknight feminazi REEEEEE"
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>>53014789
Sacred Rose
Dominion
Multi Melta
Power Sword
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>>53015019
Lets just leave that autism behind eh?
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>>53015019
>spoiler
But wasn't it established in the previous thread that you had, like, 7 vajagnas? That makes you... dodecahedronically not-SJW. D-do they touch sometimes? Asking for a friend...
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>>53015087

Nice color scheme! With that set up you ought to be amazing tank hunter!
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>>53015097
Anon, doth thee not knoweth wh're we art?
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Onion you piece of shit, I hate your CYOAs bender biased racial stats.

Could you repost the whole thing just to piss me off?
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>>53014504
Name: Kuva & Hank
Gender: Female & Male, respectively
Species: Pandorea & Parasite, Respectively
Origin: The Now; Watcher
Tech Understanding: Advanced
Skills: Amphibious, Architect, Silver Tongue, Mathematical Genius, Weightless Combatant, Split Action, Poetic
Little Things: Waste of Skin x1, Plate Rot, Lophitic, Repulsive, Slothful of Body and Mind, Govna’s Dolla’s x5
Armor: Traveller Leathers
Weapons: M911 Modded, Utility Knife
Knick Knacks: Bro-Bot, Seeder Kit, Psychic Paper, Alcohol Subscription, Drug Subscription, Low Level Adrig Manipulator, Cedril Vibration Dispenser, Toshamark Computer, Physical Formatting, Personal Gravity Manipulator
Faction: Architects
Companions: Garagrosias, Angus Love-Lich, Marada Yutori, Rocco Liomberito, Temel’Parah vas Ae
Home District: Undersea Base 192
Hubworld: Homelander
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>>53011814

>Origin
Damien, HERO OF THE PEOPLE
Vecator Male
Royal Complexus

>Proficiences
Straightsword
Staff
Mage Robes
Fur Robes
Shields

>Stats
Str: 5
Fin: 5
Cast: 24 (35)
Con: 15 (21)
Wil: 27 (35)
Spd: 5
Cra: 7
Elo: 7
Sta: 6

>Skills
Duality [Water + Fire]
Elementalist
Warding
Chain
Glyphs
Transcend
Charge
Meditation
Training

>Companions
"Virtuous Heir" Marae

>Year 1
-Expeditions
Flooded Ruins, Archdragon Cape (+2 Cast)

-Terror
Primeval Dragon [Will] (+5 Will)

>Year 2
-Expeditions
The Breach, Ruined Capital (+2 Will)

-Terror
Moonlake Bard [Will]

>Year 3
-Expeditions
Desert of Stones, Forest of Statues (+1 Will, +1 Cast)

-Terror
Drought [Will, Cast]

>Year 4
-Expeditions
Windsong Cliffs, Lost Shrine (+2 Cast)

-Terror
Soul of Alma [Will]

>Year 5
-Expeditions
The Queen's Old Keep, City of Sunlight (+2 Cast)

-Terror
Immaculate Herald [Will, Cast]

>Year 6
-Expeditions
Ashen Woods, Pinnacle of Rembas (+2 Cast)

-Terror
The Tyrant of Rembas [Cast]

>Year 7
-Expeditions
The Far North, Titan's Passing (+2 Cast)

-Terror
Talon, the Last Colossus [Cast]
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>>53015289
>Year 8
-Expeditions
Burial of Kings, The Obelisk (+2 Con)

-Terror
Bone & Skin [Will, Cast]

>Year 9
-Expeditions
The Far North, Horizon's End (+4 Con)

>Year 10
-Expedition
Into the Void

-Terror
An unknown Terror [Will, Cast]

Damien, HERO OF THE PEOPLE, was born in the Royal Complexus and lived in it until the tender age of 12. Struck by the harsh injustice of the Queen, he set out to depose her any way he could. First of all, though, he needed support. To do that, he decided to hunt down as many Terrors as he could. Training himself both in willpower and magecraft, he set off on his quest with a young lass he met by the name of Marae with a promise they would hunt down the Immaculate Herald.

For ten years they traveled, earning the admiration of the people and rewards beyond measure. On his eleventh year, after 'disappearing' for a year (destroying a catastrophically strong terror unknown to all), he finally set his plan into motion. He spoke out against the crown, not just minor words but complete and utter loathing. The shaking house of cards Sadira was built on crumbled to pieces as the combined might of its people assembled behind Damien, ready to depose of their Tyrant Queen.
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>>53014789
Argent Shroud
Celestian
Meltabomb upgrade
Bolt Gun
Power Sword
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>>53015289
>>53015308
And that is how you win the game.
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>>53015233
If you can give me a second, I'll post a version with some corrections.
Now with 80% more sexual disparity.
>>53015289
Alright, that's pretty damn well thought out. Congrats.
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>>53015233
>reverse psychology
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>>53015019
>>53015171
Have you noticed that you're pretty much the only one bringing it up now? Or that if you didn't namefag you could have avoided the 'inb4' because no one would have known it was you? Or that you're actively inviting the discussion again?
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>>53015422
It's a simple fact that anybody who actually uses a name is a fucking autist. This isn't a secret.
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>>53015422
>attentions whores are attention whoring
wow what a surprise
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>>53015422
I'm having some fun after the shitstorm. It's OK. I'm dropping the hotfix and that's gonna be it for me.
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Person last thread who posted Pokemon Personified, can you post order?
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>>53015387
It took me about two hours to figure out the right stat combo to be able to effectively fight all the Terrors. It was pretty fun.

But yeah, I really like the update, now I can make a build or two for fun. Great job Onion.
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>>53015478
Hmm... I'll spare the thread the image version for now. It doesn't really deserve mercy, but I'm a generous person. You can have the PDF, though.
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>>53015519
>328 pages
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>>53015550
It could easily be half that size if it wasn't formatted like a dogs asshole.
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>>53015550
It's fine, all of pages 96 through 306 are companions anyway.
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Is there a pdf version for Pokémon Personified?

I have all thirty-seven pages, but I do like having pdfs as well.
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>>53015519
>>53015550
Holy FUCK.

Next time just write a novel. Or an actual tabletop gamebook and charge for it.
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>>53015607
There isn't. Maybe in the future, with the next update.
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>>53015580
Could you post the rest?
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>>53015623

>you want to pay to read that
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>>53015642
I could.

I'm not going to, but if you want to torment the thread by posting the other 45 pages, here's a link to the Google Drive it's in.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B8wEYNxDPxzdUEl0YkdOcmpBR0U?usp=sharing
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>>53015437
It's true.
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>>53015716
>Onion
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>>53014504

I never posted my build for this, because it involves a lot of power gaming autistic wankery and would require me to write crazy long backstory to afford all of the skills and perks that I picked 42
My thinking goes along the lines of
>Nobody sane would ever want to read something like that, so I don't need to waste my time writing it all out
I do have a lot of the ideas fleshed out in my mind though...
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>>53015730
What?
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>>53015103
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>>53015763
>42 perks

What in the absolute fuck
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>>53015103

After his Netflix show I can't help but feel disappointed by what our society turned Bill Nye into, granted he is very much complicit too.
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To be fair. Onion is a bitch for not making the CYOA inclusive enough.

Otherwise it's a great creation.
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>>53015519
thx man
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>>53015921
>Bitching about inclusivity
Fuck off back to tumbler
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I don't get the problem with making women better than men as an option though. I thought everyone here wanted to play as the little girl?
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>>53015964
>wanting to make men more inclusive by toning women down

Yeah, I would fit RIGHT in at tumblr... .. .. .
I would be dead in an hour.
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>>53015978
You thought wrong, homo.
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>>53015921
>not inclusive enough
It has sandniggers, elfniggers and even lizard people. What the hell are you complaining about?
>>53015771
>>53015716
Are y'all gonna be regular now? Am I angel 2.0 now? I just want to gauge for how long the stench of the shitstorm's gonna be around.
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>>53015580
>96 through 306 are companions anyway.
so the unnecessary award goes too.
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>>53015993
>wanting a penis
That's the most homo of all.
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>>53015978
People originally thought that the starting stats were just starting stats, that potential wasn't geared towards one specific gender or race.
Which would have been fine, had Onion not stepped in to declare that women were, in fact, better than men.

The whole CYOA is biased as fuck.
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>>53016002
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>>53016002
Racial inclusiveness, sure.

Not so much for gender.
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>>53016016
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>>53015812
Yeah. The worst part is knowing that nobody'll ever be able to enjoy his videos again by themselves, they'll always be saddled down with the "muh vagina can speak" bullshit.
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>>53016002
When you intentionally make a dumb decision based on feelings and against fact, while pushing incorrect feminist ideas, you knew exactly what would happen new angle. Racial stats where fine, gender stats crossed the line. Enjoy the shitshow of hate you now deserve miss(?) autist.
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>>53016002
>It has sandniggers, elfniggers and even lizard people. What the hell are you complaining about?
He's probably still salty about the whole men/women stat difference.
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>>53016029
>>53016015
>>53016036
Right. Good to know y'all ignored half of what I fucking said during last thread's shitstorm. It's OK. I get it. Some people don't have good attention spans.
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>>53015568
Oh, well nothing then, 150 pages of concentrated autism is entirely reasonable.
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>>53016037
A lot of people are annoyed about that. It has some basis too.
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>>53015812
My best guess is that he is going along with it to get the show...at least I hope so, he IS smart enough to know what they are saying is bullshit, he deals with Ken Ham regularly enough to spot their shit. I would be too disappointed in him otherwise...what a sad age we live in.
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>>53016051
>pushing feminist ideas
So you ARE shitting me. Good to know.
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>>53016051
You downright said maximum potential is geared towards other genders and races.

We were fine with the starting stats, but not for end game. It's fucking annoying.
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>>53016051
Your idea is shit regardless of what people forget.
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>>53016069
Right. Feel free to REEE in peace then.
I said I wasn't going to change anything stat related, and I won't.
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>>53016036
So this really is all about you sperging out about 'evils of feminism'.
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>>53016102
>sperging out about liars
Sure, I guess I am. Everyone else is still just a justified at being pissed at him(?) too.
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>>53016102
Are you not against feminism?
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>>53016129
as*
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Let's be real here. Feminism is SHIT.

Applying it to CYOAs is -50 good boy points.
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>>53015793

The protagonist is an Elder Thing / Old One scientist trying to merge science, magic AI, Ethereal psychic stuff, and ancient deities to build the soap powered/armed dimensional ships necessary to win the coming cataclysm.
The secondary character is a young boy scientist who is the great-great-granduncle to that NPC time traveling old genius who invented the Pegs/Yuta Brace technology and they get into shenanigans Rick and Morty style
>Except super-smart Morty who plays Watson, to Rick's Sherlock, and the Old One's Mycroft
>Except most of the writing isn't about the wacky adventures which happen off screen, but the detailed explanation and justification for how the setting's metaphysics works crafted from some of the flavor text in the CYOA
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>>53016163
As far as I can tell the stats have nothing to do with feminism and everything to do with Onion thinking this was a genius worldbuilding idea and being too stubborn to listen to anyone else.
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>>53016135
Feminism is the philosophy pushing for more free and equal society, why would I be against it.

>>53016129
>>53016163
Sorry that a feminist said a bad thing about video games, I can understand it really triggered you.
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>>53016163
TENDIES TENDIES

FOR FAT FEMINIST THIGHS
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>>53016184
Except feminism isn't needed in developed countries.
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>>53016102

If you didn't actually realize that the anti-feminists are the good guys, you need to red pill yourself ASAP

The Red Pill documentary is a good place to start.
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>>53016184
>>53016163
>>53016205
Are we really going to turn this into a political argument when it had nothing to do with any of this? Are we really going to shit up the whole thread with this autistic and pointless argument?

We probably are.
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>>53016184
Your pushing for special privileges for women in developed countries while actively ignoring everywhere else. Your a McFeminist, like a Mcnugget, your everything but the substance.
>>53016223
Biscuit started it, could have stopped, didn't and is to stupid to back down from being in the wrong. And here we are.
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>>53016223
It's been done before. It will happen again.
People on the internet are like sharks. It's smelling politics and they enter a murderously autistic rampage.
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>>53016184
>Feminism is the philosophy pushing for more free and equal society

It is the exact opposite of that.
Some older European feminists have had their lives ruined for pointing out how misguided and disastrous feminism has become.

It doesn't even benefit women, just those whose jobs are to spread this ideology.
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>>53016102
>>53016129
>>53016223
WTF is going on in this thread? Why is OnionBreadsticks a self-righteous namefaggot and why is everyone bitching and moaning about his CYOA?
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>regularly lurk /cyoag/
>stop coming a month or two ago because life shit
>come back last week
>N O N - S T O P S H I T P O S T I N G
>o-ok, threads blow up, this happens...
>it hasn't gotten better
>non-contributing/attention-whoring trips and names everywhere
>/b/-tier bait every thread
>threads reach post limit because 2/3 of the damn thing is reactions to reactions to reactions to bait/shitposts
>any OC is screamed at
Jesus fuck, what did you DO while I was gone?
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>>53016296
He's a stupid cunt, but the worst thing is that he's a whiny cunt.
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>>53016310
Feminism. Your all caught up.
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>>53016296
Onion is a sexist cunt.
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>>53016296
>onionfag makes gender disparities in the stats
>people ask why, point out this is dumb and limiting
>instead of acknowledging is was dumb or politely explaining why he thought it was a good idea, he tells everyone who criticizes it to fuck off and talks a bunch of shit
>people are pissed
>anything involving gender has to be about feminism bullshit, so suddenly it's a political argument now too
>shitposting increases exponentially
>onionfaggot continues to be a fag
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>>53016296
>OnionBreadsticks

Let me guess, his OC is lewd waifu shit?
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>>53016333
PRAISE THE TRIPS, KEK HAS AWARDED THIS MAN FOR HIS MIND!
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>>53016324
That's it? THAT'S the thing that killed /cyoag/? An ideology that's already been lampooned to hell and back for several years, ESPECIALLY on this site?

...I have no words. Have another CYOA.
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Onion forcing feminism in his CYOA is almost as bad as the Monster Hunter dude forcing the Culling on us.
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>>53016346
No, it's actually pretty nice except for the fucking gender/racial issue, which effectively ruins it for everyone.

It's literally the only red flag, it's annoying. It could be a great piece of work if he would just lo other's opinions on it. Not that we're any authority.
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>>53016350

If you read between the lines, there was a reason why the Culling was in that CYOA.
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>>53016349
Yup, now back to our regularly scheduled program.
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>>53016375

Wait, why not just edit out that part of the CYOA, and repost the "fixed" version then?
>we did it to the hermaphrodite doppelganger harem option
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>>53016375
Differing stats for races are fine, but the gender ones are stupid. The gender stats would also be tolerable if onion took the easy route that we had given him and said the stats were just initial and not indicative of overall potential.
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>>53016386
Righto.
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>>53016386
B)
Now get creative with a real CYOA
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>>53016401
Are we going to start the female soldiers argument again?
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>>53016400
I like this.
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>>53016411
Nope. Only waifus and mobile armor now. Embrace it.

>>53016401
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>>53016400

>namefags as Onion
>makes a bunch of Anons to shed salty tears
>troll/8
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>>53016401
>>53016408
Tank crew and Gifted? Sounds legit.
>>53016411
Its not a sexist feminist shitpost...so I assume no.
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>>53016424
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Which author is the least whiny and friendliest? Other than Beri that is.
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>>53016443
SDA
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>>53016431
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>>53016443
As much as I love to shit talk SDA, I do enjoy the guy's presence on here.

The Scientist is also pretty chill.
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>>53016431
>"You have been drafted to serve in the war."
>"FOOLISH MORTAL, I POSSESS POWERS AND ABILITIES BEYOND YOUR COMPREHENSION! FLESH WARPS AND SKIES SPLIT IN AGONY BEFORE ME! DO NOT ORDER ME AROUND AS THOUGH A MERE PUPPET-"
>"The tank or the tribunal, lad. Your choice."
>"...yes, sir."
I love it.
>>53016433
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>>53016469
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>>53016482
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I don't see what's wrong with having different stats for each gender. That's the way life works, if you don't like it you can ignore the rule and play the CYOA however you want.
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>>53016499
One more to go after this.

I'd also like to personally thank whoever made this. It's breddy gud.
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>>53016501
Except this is fantasy fiction. Dragon Age fixed this my making women physically comparable to men, as an example.
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>>53016515
Aaand done.
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>>53016481
>>53016501
Because in real life the men are better, even by their retarded ideas they should try to avoid reality, in effect lie.
>>53016515
Gonna make a build with the B) option out of these two, it looks like it will be fun.
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>>53016327
>onion is a sexy cunt
FTFY
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>>53016375
I can see why that's stupid, but how did this turn into a feminist issue? The stats don't seem to favor one gender for all races. The night elves have better women, the Azrha have better men, and everything else seems pretty even. Granted, giving any race bonuses for playing a gender is stupid, but I don't think OnionBreadsticks, autistic namefaggot that he is, could be called an SJW feminist nor a misogynistic asshole.
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>>53016521
Wheel of Time is fantasy fiction also, and I would argue that it's a whole lot better than Dragon Age.
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>>53016534
In real life no one is better at magic because it's not real.
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>>53016002

Wait, this is what everyone is bitching about?
>2 clearly differentiated genders with well established, statistically significant differences in ability.

This doesn't feel like modern feminism to me.
I don't have a problem imagining that imaginary women might be better in a fantasy setting. Especially when different species are involved...
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>>53016557
I found Onionfaggot
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>>53016555
>>53016557
Are you just angry that the vast majority of fantasy settings have men as the most powerful wizards?
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>>53016557
Anon is just threatened by women.
Though to be fair I feel onion deserves all this hate, he really his one of the more annoying namefags, which is saying quite a bit, I just don't think people should be bitching for these pedantic reasons.
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>>53016553
>>53016557
People see anything regarding gender disparities in any form and it goes straight to feminist bullshit because everything is about politics nowadays.
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>>53016565
>somebody points out how stupid your argument is
>must be Onion
Why does this bother you so much?
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>>53016573
Most isn't everything. This one doesn't. Get over yourself
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>>53016557
This isn't a fantasy setting, it's a CYOA. Limiting your player's freedom for the sake of I don't even know what stupid fucking reason he had for doing this is inherently bad design. It limits the freedom of the reader to make their choices and adds nothing to the plate.

It's literally just ego stroking.
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>>53015763
Have you seem some of the builds? The entire reason the Biological Mobile RST Unit is in was because some anon abused the fuck out of the perk system to make Cell.

>>53016058
Some anon literally beat the entire CYOA with a male character. Step up your game.
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I feel like I gotta address some accusations.
I did explain the reason for stat distribution. My explanation was, and you can find it in the last thread: Women are better with magic, men are better with physical stuff.
Y'all keep telling me about how much of a feminist I am. No. I am fucking not. I despise that ideology. It's garbage, it's polluting the USA and the entirety of fucking europe. Its getting a whole wagon of entitled little princesses to whine and complain that they don't get it better than men because however many years ago they didn't have it better than men, and somehow that gives them the right to take revenge on the rest of the cocking planet. And somehow people think their worries are legitimate and not just made up bullcockery.
But I make a CYOA with gender disparity and this is what I get? Suddenly it's all about politics because someone strawmanned me to high heaven? Someone believes that me distributing stats is a statement and that happens? I can't even joke about it anymore.
I am going to say it clear: The CYOA is not about feminism nor politics of any sort other than imaginary ones. I am not making a statement by making women better at spellcasting and men better at physical tasks. That is just a circumstance that can be found within that universe and nothing more. I conducted myself like a shithead, I apologize. I won't be making that mistake again.
Hopefully this will clear some things up.
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>>53016557
It isn't even about that. People are just mad that women are slightly stronger spellcasters.

It's not like anyone is bitching that women are slightly less adept at physical combat.
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>>53016586
It's a stupid design choice, but it isn't feminism anon. OnionBreadsticks is a faggot, but he's not given us any reason to believe that he's an SJW.
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>>53014504
>Origin & Backround
Tribal Eire; Half-breed Mutt (Low-Tech Understanding, Advanced Ethereal Manipulation, Elementalism, Horsepower, Free Companion: Marco Fulcanelli
>Skills, Perks & Traits
Low Tech Understanding, Common Ethereal Manipulation, Basic Ethereal Manipulation, Advanced Ethereal Manipulation, Master Ethereal Manipulation, Natural Beauty, Woodsman, Green Thumb, Beast Master, Traveller Adept, Horse Power, Alchemist, Elementalist: Plant, Field Leader: Druidism, Rider, Friedly Face, Emotional Sense, Parental Instinct, Touched by Fox Fire
>Initial Equipment Requisition
>Clothing
Travelers Leathers: Upgraded, MagisterTM Tier Robes
>Weapons
Yuta Brace: Double Upgrade
>General Items
Pegs, Basic Survival Kit, Basic Bag, ID Card, Magical Protection Vestments, Seeder Kit, Ring of the Wild Gods
>Little Things...
I don't need no Governa's dalla! x10, Sensory Deprivation: Blind, The Renegade, Fuck Your Glowy Bullshit, Accursed by Cena
>Factions, Departments & Others
True Travelers
>The Covenants
The Temple of the Wild Gods
>Allies
>Yarihei Neinta, 988, True Traveler, Ancient Fox God, Female Romanceable, Male Romanceable + Ishtar, 7920, Hearth Keepers, Estranged Goddess, Female Romanceable, Male Romanceable (Pair); Marco 'Fulcanelli', 1271, True Traveller, Second Generation Time Paradox Expert; ‘Amice,’ ???, True Traveler, Water Dragon, Male Romanceable; Dierdre Duana, 867, True Travelers, Blind Witch, Female Romanceable, Male Romanceable, Filthy Degenerate + Alessandro Di Cagliostro, 556, Ethereal, Notorious Alchemist, Female Romanceable, Male Romanceable, Filthy Degenerate (Pair)
Elk
>Home District
The Fae Territory
>Hubworlds
Homelander
>PANIC BUTTONS
The God
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>>53016591
>Women are better with magic, men are better with physical stuff.

You deserve all the shit you're getting. Women don't need to be physically able to kick a man's ass in fantasy fiction, they rely on other things.

Crippling the male gender when to magic just how much of a closet feminist you are.
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>>53014496
>last thread not dead
>this one is halfway to the bump limit
hmmmn
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>>53016591
I love your CYOA bro, don't worry about these faggots.
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>>53016586
>limiting your player's freedom is bad design
Limiting your player's freedom is the point of of CYOAs. Without the restrictions offered by rules this would just be a wrtiefag/erp thread.
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>>53016612
>Origin & Backround
The End of Winter; Antlered Titan (Low-Tech Understanding, Lucky, Hearty, Unarmed Combatant, Eiru Elkan Body*
>Skills, Perks & Traits
Low Tech Understanding, Common Ethereal Manipulation, Natural Beauty, Natural Physique, Martial Training, Runner, Berserker, Woodsman, Lucky, Superhuman Body, Frontliner, Traveller Adept, Hearty, Unarmed Combatent, Features Harsh, Violence Mutability, Thoughtless, Touched by Fox Fire
>Initial Equipment Requisition
>Clothing
Travelers Leathers: Upgraded
>Weapons
Yuta Brace: Double Upgraded, Size Increaced Glaive
>General Items
Pegs, Basic Survival Kit, Basic Bag, ID Card, Operabia Module Overclocked: Iron Hide + Rage Effect, BIO Chip: Centaur, Healing Chip, Ring of the Wild Gods
>Little Things...
I don't need no Governa's dalla! x10, Minor, Notorious, Fuck Your Glowy Bulshit, Brothers of the Bite
>Factions, Departments & Others
True Travelers
>The Covenants
The Temple of the Wild Gods
>Allies
Elf Druid
>Home District
The Fae Territory
>Hubworlds
Homelander
>PANIC BUTTONS
The God
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>>53016608
>It's not like anyone is bitching that women are slightly less adept at physical combat.

This is literally never the case in D&D, anywhere. Skanky clad women warriors beat up men all the fucking time for fanservice.

Shut your whore hole.
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>>53016615
Jesus anon, check that autism at the door.
At this point I actually think you are threatened by fictional women and their fictional abilities in a fictional universe.
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>>53016591
>Women are better with magic, men are better with physical stuff
And this explanation is arbitrary, dumb, and unnecessarily limits the player without improving the CYOA.
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>>53016577
>everything is about politics nowadays
Welcome to the modern world. Identity politics, rampant consumerism/totalitarianism (if not both), and not much else. The best we can do is try new things and reject dogmas independent of any noise they pump out, keep our heads low, and enjoy the ride for what it's worth.
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>>53016628
>What is -4 STR
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>>53016628
I meant in terms of his CYOA you colossal faggot.
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>>53016610
I don't think he's a feminist and quite frankly I don't give a shit what ideology he subscribes to. What you do when you leave this thread is not something I care to find out.

That doesn't make his retarded CYOA any less retarded. He deserves the shit he's getting because of the shit he made.
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>Onion makes women physically weak delicate little casters who need big strong male companions to keep them safe
>people accuse him of being a feminist
This is beyond retarded.
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>>53016591
It's mostly just people who are personally men, but still aren't good at physical stuff. They're getting mad because they see magic as their one way to actual power, and now a woman's better than them at it. This pisses them off.

What I'd advise is making Magic equal and choosing something else for females to be better at (Diplomacy? A plus to Elo could work, I guess).
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>>53016664
Drachmanians already kick ass at Diplo.

If you really want to be a caster, you should go Vecator. Male and Female Vecator have +2 Casting over Nightward Elves.
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>>53016678
I always liked starting statistics for specific races.

What I don't like is when potential doesn't pay off. It's forcing people to pick things they don't want to pick.
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>>53016664
The lesson here is that autists in CYOA will be unhappy unless women get -4 to all stats.
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>>53016646
>>53016630
>>53016628
>>53016615

Ok, having heard some more of what this is about, I am starting to think that this guy (or guys) have blown this out of proportion.

>>53016591
Glad to hear that you understand the dangers of feminism.
I think the only thing that I have against you is your namefagging, but then again we are discussing your CYOA...
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>>53016707
Nah, we just want equal measure in terms of potential.
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>>53016723
This. People don't want to have to balance stat choices with their deep desire to be a tough cool guy or a cute little girl.
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>>53016723
Clearly not, because the genders are already equal.
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>>53016723
>men are physically stronger in the CYOA
Well that makes sense, I have this study here from 1930's Germany that shows men are stronger irl.
>women are more magically adept in the CYOA
FUCKING STUPID SLUTS RUIN EVERYTHING. FUCKING FEMINISM OH MY GOD WHAT HAPPENED TO EQUALITY?
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>>53016769
Except women are more nimble and far more flexible. They make better ninjas.

NOT FUCKING FAIR BUDDY
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>>53016756
Being the little girl is always the best choice and I'm glad that this CYOA is enforcing it.
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>>53016723

Women who compete in open water long distance swimming, on average are better than men. But the top men still finish faster because their bell curve is flatter.
I don't think that you should worry about a starting disadvantage in magical aptitude
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>>53016807
That would be fine if it was nothing but a starting disadvantage. But the way onion has it means that men remain crippled magically all the way up to the maximum potential.
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>>53016800
If a cyoa gave women +1 to AGI and DEX you fucking nerds would still complain about it. Stop pretending this is about equality, you just hate women.
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>>53016832
I just want to be a fucking wizard you sperg. I don't give a shit about your roasty shits just let me the most powerful wizard with the most powerful cock so I can retire to my tower at the end of the world and fuck boys dressed as girls.
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>>53016832
No, I just hate it when a gender is flaunted unnecessarily.

Each gender has physical advantages, but to cripple one wholly in magic? Shameful.
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>>53016829
>doesn't like a CYOA
>choses not to ignore it
>choses not be civil about it
>choses to ruin two threads in a row with autism
Do you feel good about yourself? Does it give you some sick pleasure to come into threads and ruin any actual discussion?
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>>53016851
There's nothing special about magic that makes it superior to physical.
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>>53016863
The shitstorm is because it's a great CYOA other than that one flaw.
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>>53016832
I'm going to have to disagree with this.
There is a point to be made that making different genders have different stats is a bit retarded as a design choice. I mean there is a reason why games phased it out, especially if there was no clear reason behind it. I'm not going to have an autism fit about it or anything, but it seems like as a design it's not adding a whole lot to the table. Maybe if onion took the concept further it would work, but as is it just seems like a random limitation. Though most people bitching here are just bitching because muh feminism, and if we're going to pick issues with the CYOA there's a lot more legitimate ones.
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>>53016869
>range
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>>53016869
In most fictional settings magic trumps the physical, wholly and entirely.

I actually find it funny that Onion would try to make them equal, as realistically that's just not the case. If he went with a gritty dark vibe like Game of Thrones, sure, but this is high fantasy.

Sword < Sorcery
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>>53016851
What makes you think magic is that powerful in this? It's not like everything has to be D&D where wizards are automatically the bestest
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>>53016869
Except I want to be a wizard and this arbitrary limitation doesn't let me because I don't want to play as something that bleeds once a month. It adds nothing to the CYOA and exists for no reason.

You literally cannot defend this without resorting to "You hate women" because you innately recognize it as the shit design choice that it is.
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>>53016881
>In most fictional settings
>In most
>most
Is there anything in the CYOA to suggest this is the case? Just assume magic and physical abilities are more balanced, especially because both physical and magical are supposed to be powerful enough to beat super monsters.
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>>53016851
>1 point disparity
>Crippled
I don't think that word means what you think it does.
Besides, best casters are lizards, and their stats are gender neutral. It's almost like you guys are complaining about something with no idea what you're talking about, but that would never happen.
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>>53016885
Except even in D&D humans are the greatest wizards despite not having starting magical advantages like elves and gnomes.
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>>53016881
>magic
>realistically
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>>53016888
>if I can't be the best caster in the world why even bother
You can still be a wizard you dumb shit, you just have to face the fact that one day you might be bested by *gasp* a woman.
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>>53016897
Onion flat out said that women are better in potential. We don't care about the stats. We care about end-game shit.
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>>53016880
>bows
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>>53016907
Which is just bad design. A women ninja could still beat a barbarian with ease. Both focusing on different physical whatnot.

Yet you decide to cripple men in a whole area. It's retarded, to be certain.
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>>53016907
Why? Why can't I be the strongest wizard as a man? What does this add to the CYOA that would be lost if it weren't present? Why should I defend this decision when it's shit and doesn't make the CYOA any better?

>*action*

Of course you're a fucking retard.
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>>53016881
Also, I find it funny that your definition of high fantasy apparently REQUIRES that magic is the bestest.

Phenomenal cosmic powers are trivial to control and even a child can reshape continents on whim. Unless his fingers happen to brush against a sword, then he's forced suddenly into ultra-realism mode and instantly dies from scurvy.
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>>53014496
I don't understand.
The sticky for /tg/ says there's another board for these types of threads, why isn't this there instead?
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>>53016922
There's nothing to suggest magic is automatically better, if it were than the balance of the CYOA would be shit, which would be a much bigger problem.
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>>53016909
According to your dumb /pol/cuck logic, you have more potential at astronomy than a black person. Are you better at astronomy than Neil Degrasse Tyson? Does the fact that better astronomers than NDT exist mean he shouldn't bother?
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>>53016932
You are beyond autistic if you think an armor clad knight is a match for a mountain shattering wizard.
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>>53016909
Yes, higher base stats + finite growth - low hard caps on stats = higher potential, it's still a one point gap that doesn't exist in the strongest casters.
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>>53016934
It's not technically quests, even though it would probably fit much better there than on /tg/.
So in other words this is the place its supposed to be because mods say so
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>>53016934
CYOAs aren't quests and they don't want us there, if that's what you mean.
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>>53016937
We only care about balance in potential, not whether magic is better than brawn, which it is.

Some people actually like playing as weaker characters.
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>>53016888

This is why you are a sorry excuse for a human being.

Nothing is stopping you from being a wizard, except for the realization that someone will always be better than you.

But that is always the case, even if you become the best in the world, someone will come along and beat your records.

You want guaranteed success, and that entitled whining puts you on the same level as the SJWs

Become the best wizard that you can be, until then nobody wants to to hear any more out of you.
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>>53016946
>You are beyond autistic
Ignoring the irony, what makes you think that wizards can do that in this universe? What makes you think that a knight can't cut a mountain in two? You're adding your own beliefs on how magic works, not how its stated to work in the CYOA.
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>>53016946
You are beyond autistic if you think people can cast mountain shattering spells but can't improve swords/armor with enchanting.
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>>53016909
That's wrong. I didn't say that. I said that women had more magic potential. Later on in the discussion I added that men have a higher physical potential.
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>>53016940
Why do you assume I wrote all of that? Are you some sort of bitch mod?
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Jesus Christ, I can't fucking believe some of you are trying to defend this CYOA. I have to settle for possibly being less than the single most powerful individual in this specific universe just because I want to be a guy? That's fucking horseshit. Next you'll tell me that the ability to suck my own cock and get throat pregnant with my own ubermensch clone fetus isn't an unspoken ability every CYOA provides.
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>>53016957
>personal attack because you have no argument.

Okay, thanks for letting us know you have nothing of any value to say.
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"wonder what new shit cyoa is doing"

>new cyoa, total bitch fest, author being a cunt.

"well, thats normal"

>bill nye

"nice."

>long ass fucking PDF makers who really should just write a fucking a book or 5 by now

"yup, traveler is at it again."

So I''m semi-biored, what cyoa do you want today? Inspire me tg.
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>>53016965
What makes you think magic is automatically that powerful? What in the CYOA said it was? Stop assuming every setting uses the standards you're used to.
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>>53016963
So you enjoy making CYOAs that aren't gender inclusive.

You're a whore feminist.
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>>53016962
>enchanting isn't magic

damn, now wizards are the best at both. Good thing men are better at bashing rocks together.
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>>53016972
There is no argument bud, we're past that. We are laughing at you because you guys are shitting yourselves because you can't min-max in a game of pretend.
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>>53016976
Zombie CYOA where you play as a legion of zombies
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>>53016965
The most annoying part is that this is the only bad part of the otherwise fresh CYOA.

Just ONE thing ruined it all.
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>>53016981
Bruh, I was being sarcastic. I mean, I thought the throat baby thing put it over the edge, but I guess I gotta beef my clarity game.
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>>53016960
>>53016962
He's doing that thing where wizards can do whatever he can imagine but knights can only do what he read from wikipedia. So wizard can shatter mountains and knight will die from syphilis at age of 30.

>>53016988
Like this, only wizards can enchant thing. There can never be a weapon of great power that was made by any other means than wizard waving his hands over it.
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>>53016976
CYOA about oppressing women.
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>>53014789
Order of Our Martyred Lady
Celestian
Bolt Gun
Power Sword
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>>53017009
Sorry anon, my bad, I replied with out reading it in full
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>>53016999
And this is the conclusion. You're not right and you know it so you take the easy way out by pretending you don't care despite having invested hours of your time to defend it. You understand its bad and you refuse to admit it because... You're a woman I guess, and this makes you feel empowered? I don't know what you get from defending bad design.
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Women are physically superior to men at athletics, agility, nimbleness and flexibility.
Men are physically superior to women in strength, vitality, endurance and stamina.
Women are magically superior to men in all regards when it comes to magic and the arcane
Men are magically inferior to women because they're just not, for some reason, even in potential.


Great balance Onionfaggot.
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>>53017005
>>53017017
Um excuse me, why does it have be a girl demon teaching you how to summon imaginary monsters? I'll have you know that men are just as good as women with all kinds of magic.
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>>53016972

It's only a personal attack because you saw that you fit the mindset that I was criticizing.

If you knew that it didn't apply to you, you wouldn't be bothered by it.

And who says I need an argument? I am not arguing with you, because I don't think that you are capable of grasping the fact that a person who worries about always being second best, will never be nearly that good.
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>>53017045
>men are just as good as women with all kinds of magic.

>[citation needed]
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>>53016375
See, I don't care about the gender stat thing. I just hate having to min/max to do anything, which is why I folded shortly after the proficiency section.

Props to the author though, for staying true to what ya wanted to do. I am enjoying this sideshow right now.
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>>53017044
This pretty much sums it up. Men aren't greater than women in ALL physical matters.

So why should women be better at any and ALL magic? It's shit logic.
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>>53016401

Reason: Protection
Type: APC

Cannon: *.5
Armour: ******.5
Speed: ******
Tactics: *******.5
Special: Support Crew(4 Odin Sentinels, x2 Effectiveness), +50% Turn Rate, +50% Strength Icethrower
Skills: Survival, Morale

Upgrades: Ablative Armour, Flamethrower, GES, Expanded Crew, Dweomer Plating (Agnes)

Operator: Elenor Waterhouse
Driver: Penny Hathaway
Gunner: Zoe Lagorio
Mechanic: Agnes Kagutsuchi
Extra: Judit Sorenson

Battlefield: Strange Gate

Raw offence is not exactly my area of expertise but I'm tough, fast and fantastic at supporting my very dangerous support crew. In a close up brawl, a quartet of Odin Sentinels and a nitrogen gun will allow me to to deal with enemy tanks in a way that my anaemic main gun won't but out in the open I'll have to rely on good speed to hopefully avoid direct engagement with tanks. Fortunately, my ability to travel over the water will hopefully help there.

The crew has at least one member who can do every role if the primary member is knocked out of action due to injury, just in case. Or if my mechanic and gunner get in a punch up over being uncouth.
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>>53016002
Name:
Oak, like the tree. Some dyrads named him or something.
Darksin Elf, Male: Because in order to actually get anything in this game you have to be either black, female, muslim, or some combination of the three. Or just play a human that specializes in using his friends to fight for him?
The Wilds Outside: Fuck cities.
>Proficiency
Straightsword
Axe
Greatsword
Full Plate
Shields
>Skills
+2 Sta (4)
Force Push (5)
Tension (6)
Ironskin (7)
Split (8)
Conditioning (9)
Breathing Technique (10)
Devourer (11)
Pack Mule (12)
>Companion
Yadima "The Pale": Small, quick, shooty person to compliment Oak's huge, slow, tankyness
>Jobs/quests
I'll worry about this shit later, holy shit there's a lot.

Final Stats, before jobs
Str:22
Fin:5
Cas:7
Con:25
Wil:5
Spd:8
Cra:6
Elo:6
Sta:17

The biggest problem with this cyoa isn't any of the political bullshit or whatever people are complaining about, it's that certain "Classes" are heavily reliant on race/gender. If you want to be a tank you literally have to be either darksin or arzha, or you're not going to have enough stat points for any skills. If you want more than one or two companions then you HAVE to play a drachma. And forget playing either of those if you want a spell caster.
Other than that it seems fine.
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>>53017061
Um excuse me, you know feminism is about equality and you aren't being very equal right now. Us MRAs are the true feminists, because we fight for meaningful equality in pretend fantasy games.
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Had I known in advance that you fags would waste a whole thread, I would have gone ahead and posted all of Order. Still not gonna do it, though.
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>>53017044
>CYOA only gives human women a bonus to magic and will, nothing about dexterity or agility
>Anon also forgets that magic is a single stat, all physical abilities are multiple
Did you even read the thing before bitching?
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>>53014504
Haha, blast from the past.


MOTHER-OF-SWORDS

FORM
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70: Genitals: Vagina
65: Embellishments (1), Lubrication (1), Musculature (1), Cilia (1) Lumen (1)
65: Shape: Modest
65: Chest: Gifted
57: Influences: Pseudodevascent (2), Xenosubstantial (2), Quasicosmic (4), Multiplexive
57: Face: Seductive
53: Chakra Eye (2), Elder Gaze (2)
57: Rare Hunger (Manhood, +2)
55: Lactation (2), Nurturing (3), Dependant (+3)
52: Gate to Ecstasy (Hand, 1), Reproductive Channel (2)
58: Commanding Mien (+3), Carnal Atmosphere (+3)
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PROGENERATION
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58: Pupation
58: Implement
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DOWRY
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61: Nuptial Torc (+3)
54: Lavender Grimoire (7)
47: Crimson Manual (7)
44: Primordial Woad (3)
41: Celestial Charms (3)
34: Argent Spark (2), Argent Blaze (5)
28: Rite of Flesh Union (6)
26: Rite of Echo Bestowal (2)
22: Rite of Worldstepping (4)
19: Regal Array (3)
15: Filthy Lucre (4)
07: Ritual Sensualists (8)
-05: Prime Mate x3 (12)
-07: Lavender Sprite (1), Crimson Sprite (1)
-13: Widow's Hunger (3), Predatory, Thrallmaker (3)
02: Stigma of the Crimson Kiss (+3), Stigma of the Rising Star (+12)
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AMBITION
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00: Key Strategic Asset (2)
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>>53017095
So Onion gave the wrong stats to men then

lol
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>>53017045
I'm already looking forward to Onion's next cyoa if this is the kind of gold I'm finding now.
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>>53017107
Didn't give them any of that. More so left out properly needed stats for women.
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>We will never have comfy threads again because faggots need controversy to enoy themselves

fuck it I'm out, this is the push I needed to leave this place.
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>>53017038
>You're a woman I guess, and this makes you feel empowered? I don't know what you get from defending bad design.

>Look out, there is a woman behind you right now.
You should get on the MGTOW forums, be among your own kind...

>>53017038
You do realize that you are probably talking to half a dozen different people, right?

Nobody needs to spend hours debating you when there are fresh individuals that can laugh at your irrational inferiority complex.
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Is there a thematic reason for women being better than men when it comes to magic?

I need an actual and proper answer.
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>>53017031
No problem, it's an inherent danger when making a joke like that among this kind of tension.
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>>53017115
I think all of the high-octane shitposting has driven him away. It's a shame imo.
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>>53017127
I'll see you next week.
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>>53017128
Most of the anons here hated Onion's CYOA racial restrictions, anon.

Every other aspect of the CYOA is lovely, just not the restrictions.
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>>53017127
Good riddance, we always have this shit and we always have comfy/sexy/fun at times.

Not like this is new, just out wait the storm til the next. Take this one though.
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>>53017139
Onion doesn't deserve the hate, I just wish he would disregard imbalances.
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>>53014536
Holy shit, She kept Jin'Gar
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I'm working on OC but I'm scared to post it here when I'm done.
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>>53017115
Next thing coming is a small update to a /d/ CYOA I did a while ago. Whoresale. All the pics are nsfw, so unless y'all are fine with a waifu CYOA with al waifus censored, I'll have to be keeping that one on /d/.
>>53017132
By thematic I assume you mean lorewise? or mechanics-wise?
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>>53017158
Both?
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>>53017153
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>>53017139
Yeah, but it's by the same few people. On a board with hundreds of active participants, this thread gets a relatively low number of hits. It's literally just the same people (You)ing themselves again and again to try an illustrate some nonexistent points.

A guy made a cyoa and shared it. People get themselves worked up over it because, while being aesthetically pleasing, it wasn't what they wanted. I imagine the majority of people who actually make builds for cyoas, or read them, do not actually participate in these threads.

As the saying goes: if you want something done right, do it yourself.
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>>53017168
3/7
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>>53017156
You should be fine as long as all the women are submissive, weak, and unintelligent (but not TOO unintelligent, like in a bimbo kind of way). And if there' even a HINT of NTR, you'll be fucking sorry.
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>>53017017
>>53017005

>Altar
Marble

>Summons
Succubus (My Blood) (Yumi)
Ritualist (My Blood) (Thrall)
Hellhound (Animal Blood)
Alraune (My Blood)
Ember Bloom (My Blood)

>Suggestion

Mage's Guild
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>>53017182
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>>53017128
You're the only person arguing in favor of this, it's obvious by your repetitive writing style and inability to formulate any sort of argument.

Again, I don't understand why you're so obsessed with defending something so obviously bad. Why do men need to be inferior at magic? why do women need to be inferior at phsyical? Every other CYOA has no problem ignoring the real world because they recognize such silly things add nothing when playing pretend and let the player freely create their own character. You're obviously intelligent so I don't understand why you defend it and that's what gets me the most.

In a game where you can be anything you choose to have less potential than others for no reason at all?
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>>53017193
Fight the hate by ignoring it, just play comfy cyoa's.
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>>53017205
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>>53017158
Drop a link to the post in /d/ when it's finished and I'll give it a gander.
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>>53017182
>Want cool bro dad but don't want to cuck him, but also want shota loving milf
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>>53017213
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>>53014789
>Repentia
>No Eviscerator
>Seraphim
>No Hand Flamers or Inferno Pistols
And your god-damn text is near unreadable a parts.

0/10 Would not purge in the name of the Emperor with.
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>>53017132
There is no thematic reason at all. I rarely see fictional settings where women are better than men at magic, if at all.

And though I hate to say it, the reverse is somewhat common.
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>>53017195
>>53017195
Sameposter is a bad argument dude. Just because we're online and it's easy to condense and belittle your opposition into a single avatar whom you can concentrate on doesn't mean you should. If you believe this vehemently in what you're saying I don't think it should really matter how many people disagree with you. Arguments are qualitative, not quantitative.

Good arguments, anyway.
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>>53017227
May you post that Another Start one that took after this? I think it had whatshisface from that popular MMO game Outwatch or Overlook--something like that--and one of the siblings was Gilgamesh. There was also a Buzz. Definitely a Buzz.
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>>53017237
This. We are obviously not the same person.
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>>53016591
A shitstorm to rivals my shitstorms?

My dear onion, this is what generally happens when you make design choices which cyoag don't agree with. Anons are the biggest whining faggots there are. It's not even that big of a deal honestly, and I won't indulge this social political nonsense going on.

Trying to reason is a futile effort, believe me.
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>>53017236
It's a thing in norse mythology, and some of my animu vidya gameshows.
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>>53017158
Did you intend for women to be better than men at magic lorewise?
Did you intend all races to be unequal at magic, lorewise?

I might be too used to D&D to accept this, if it happens to be your take.
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>>53017274
Norse mythology only cares about men and axes. Also Odin is easily more powerful than any witch in Norse mythology. And he can specifically become mortal at his whim.
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I honestly preferred the Rapture posts to this new level of autism. Can someone post a CYOA to distract from this?
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>>53017274
*cough* Odin *cough* *cough*
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>>53017281
>Norse mythology only cares about men and axes
delet yourself
>Also Odin
Odin was also extremely weird because of it. He was the best wizard, which was doubly odd because he was a man. That was acknowledged in the mythology.
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>>53017284
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>>53017183
Now I'm more scared.
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>>53017293
>which was doubly odd because he was a man

You think men being better wizards in folklore, legends and mythology is odd?

Look who really needs to delete himself.
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>>53017159
>>53017275
Mechanics-wise, I wanted to keep it relatively simple. I already knew men were going to have physical advantage, thus I thought making women have the magical advantage would be reasonable. Lorewise, which I only thought about after making the previous decission is that, in the case of Drachma, most men are driven to work in either the market or the farms and women are driven to study. In the case of elves, females have a higher affinity with magic, the Nightwards being that affinity taken to the extreme.
>>53017264
Thanks for the advice, honest. Still, I like sticking to my guns, for better or worse. That said, I did only the bare minimum of reasoning in the last thread. I can understand the rage.
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>>53017301
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>>53017286
The exception does not invalidate the rule.
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>>53017314
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>>53017305
Within Norse mythology. Are you purposely being obtuse?
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>>53016635
>all these insider jokes
Fucking beautiful m8
I r8 a gr8 8/8.
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>>53017305
Being the best, by the very definition means you're not a normal case, and thus odd.
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>>53017312
>most men are driven to work in either the market or the farms and women are driven to study

Yet it's the complete opposite in written history. Do you like fucking over men by conducting role reversals? Why can't they both be represented in educational matters and work places?

You can have high affinity, but saying it gives you more potential is a ludicrous addition. Not even High Elves in D&D have higher potential than fucking Orcs when it comes to wizardry, they just have the spark.
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>>53017257
I can't find it. I looked but I can't find it.
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>>53017305

He means in the mythology. Male practitioners of Norse magic were seen as strange by their community and were specifically breaking custom and becoming outcasts.

Odin was obviously not an outcast, but there's still evidence of people having a tinge more tolerance than veneration for the idea of Odin's magic, and he is specifically made fun of for it by other gods in some myths, especially by Loki, obviously.
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>>53016173
Your right that is pretty autistic. 42 perks is impressive though
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You people are forgetting that the most famous spellcaster of all time is a dude.
The very same guy who literally defines the word 'wizard' and the appearance associated with it.
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>>53017338
Honestly, I haven't really been able to find a group to play DnD with. Over here it's mostly Shadowrun and games with similar setting, so I really don't know much about DnD, apologies for that.
Still, the lore is just justifying the mechanics. Telling me that's not the way it's in reality doesn't do much. If I'd made lore before mechanics, then yes. Now if you were to ask me why did I decide men would have higher physical strength, then I'd have to say it was mostly arbitrary.
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>>53016310
Was torn between The TURDIS and the golden loo. But considering a person on average produces about a pound of shit or so a day that only comes out to just over 600 bucks a year in gold shavings/dust.

With the TURDIS you can screw with NASA and conspiracy theorists alike. Take bomb ass photos of other worlds. Explore the Galaxy.

Shit build some extra stuff around your 'Throne' and make a costume and you can go around pretending to be the worlds laziest super villain. The TURDIS protects you after all.
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>>53017390

>Merlin
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>>53017395
You could honestly just say the mechanics don't correspond to actual lore, which is something tabletop company writers have actually stated on occasion for the ease of frustration.

But it's up to you.
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>>53017390
Merlin was a dunce.

Morgan Le Fay was where the real magic was.
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>>53017433
lel Morgan Le Fay

In every fictional work she's been depicted as his inferior, always resorting to treachery and backstabbing.
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>>53017338

So it's weird that this fantasy world has a different cultural history that's led to a different set of contemporary gender roles? That's pretty par for the fantasy mini golf course, I think.

As for potential, I don't see how this wouldn't be seen as something that can be overcome. Despite conventionally beginning at a disadvantage, female bodybuilders, strongwomen, martial artists, etc. can work hard and reach places in those fields where they can stand toe to toe with male counterparts.

In this case, we're in a fantasy setting where you can state literally any reason for your ascension. Maybe you happen to be on the far side of the bell curve for men, or while you may lack some of the strength you have a knack for control of the energies involved, or the construction of the internal/external structures that control the magic. CYOAs allow you to be extraordinary in mechanics with proper application and understanding of the rules, and in lore because, well, shit's fake yo.

As for mechanics, the difference is hardly crippling. You may have to sacrifice a little more on further development of other stats, which men can do without being physically crippled because they start higher in those areas.
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>>53017132

Their vaginas secretly whisper to the spirits of magic on their behalf.
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>>53017447
Yeah, but she was his apprentice. So of course she's under him. He's also Merlin, no one is better than the trope maker for wizards.
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>>53016408
I will use the Gifted character I make first as the Commander. make this a bit easier. Gonna have to ignore the companion portion of it though, but will take perks with me.
>Name: Anon Y. Mous.
Age: 16.
Power Source: Genetic.
>Changes.
Emotional: Strengthened(+7)
Physical: Perfect(-4)
Mental: Sharpened(-3)
Life: No change(+10)
Memory: Knowledge(-5)
Spiritual: Magnet(+5)
Perfect military breeding material from a different dimension.
>>53016431
>Gifts, Starting points=40
Pyro kinesis-3(Control-3, Catalyst-2, Source-5), Remote Viewing-2(Scrying+1), Dowsing-1, Healing-2(Self Service-5, Miracle-3), Vitality-3(Painless+3), Athleticism-4(Raw Power-6), Barrier-3(Wide-2).
>>53016534
Perks: Overcome(plus 1 to each individual curse), True Original(Alien)
>>53016451
Lust+9, Insomnia+10.
>>53016431
Bonus Points from curses=19
Permanent-3 for Barrier, Immunity-3 for Vitality, Tongues-2(Non-verbal-1), Charm-3, Mechanics-3(Inner Focus-4).
>>53016401
Now on to the tanking.
The Why: Girls
Tank: APC(One mechanized Infantry free)
>>53016424
Skills: Survivor, Logistics.
Upgrades: Machine Gun, Grenade Launcher, Vacation Kit.
>>53016433
Operator(Tactics):Eleonore Waterhouse
Gunner(Cannon):Marcelle Browning.
Driver(Speed):Penny Hathaway.
Mechanic(Armor):Agnes Kagutsuchi.
>Combat Zone.
Zepang Mountains. HOT SPRINGS
>>53016515
Dweomer Plating and Mine Thwarter Upgrades due to Agnes and me. Taking Runic Engine and Odin Sentinels as well. I already am a living flamethrower so special rounds are meaningless.
>Super Mission
Undead horde.
We can go on a road trip burning our way through a hoard of zombies, if anyone gets bitten I can heal them instantly. And shields for everyone.
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>>53017447
>Implying tretchery isn't the real magic in this world.
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>>53016349
Not even that.
Literally just shitheads being shitheads and finding any reason to blame except themselves.
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>>53017508
Real magic is a single mother working 60 hours a week and still keeping her children off the street.
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>>53017508
If we go by just what European occultists and magicians were trying to achieve, science is the true magic of the world.

Isaac Newton was a lover of the arcane, despite being arguably the most famous natural philosopher in history.
He had a fondness for alchemy and the Corpus Hermeticum.

Western dabblers were more interested in the control of the universe, in contrast to the superstitious East.
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>>53017094
Why is Reimu trying to force-feed the girl?
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>>53016400
Gender stats are cancer. But what else would you expect from onion?
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>>53017132
If you want a serious answer; it's due to Goddess worship persecution by Christian missionaries for thousands of years.

Black magic, and forbidden, magic has always been tied with the feminine, and for thousands of years has been romanticized as the alternative for the "masculine" spiritual beliefs of organized religion. Folk stories all around the world have a "witch" allegory, and folk stories are the ones that became popular over time.

Male magicians are usually seen as some sort of conquering over the feminine, and thus are more powerful in knowledge and in the arts over their feminine counterpoints, who are easily tempted by lust-greed-Satan, etc.
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>>53017529
While magic is nonexistent, a lot of its practices, philosophies and beliefs were later incorporated into scientific methods.

So I'm inclined to agree.
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I was listening to https://youtube.com/watch?v=8hFb10p7uWg and https://youtube.com/watch?v=euuxPokAeIA and reading reading Berserk.

Now I've got this vague idea in my head for a Requiem for a Waifu cyoa. Your waifu died, you're broken, and you're going to break things in return.

My shit taste in music and manga is finally paying off and becoming inspirational.
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>>53017569
It would be more accurate to say malevolent spellcasters were associated with women rather than men, who were linked to greater magics and benevolence.
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>>53017584
Sounds like a pretty cathartic little ride, if a bit edgy. I'll tentatively look forward to it.
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>>53017569
Eh, the most prominent magic-users in literature, folklore and mythology have been predominantly men.
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>>53016002

If stacking maximum Casting score is all that matters, then men and women are on equal terms.

>Venatum Mausoleum
Drop your +5 and +3 stats into +Cast
Grab 5 longsword
You are already at 35 Casting

Is it a good build? Probably not, but it shows that for maximum Casting potential, gender doesn't matter.
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>>53017631
>but it shows that for maximum Casting potential, gender doesn't matter

Not according to Onion.
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>>53017622
Then why is it the image of Witches boiling children in cauldrons that had so many people terrified throughout history?

Sure you have big male occultists like Solomon and Merlin, but magic has always been tied with women. It's a womanly thing, not a manly thing.
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>>53017672
>It's a womanly thing, not a manly thing.

There is no gender basis for magic, depending on the culture in question. If you really want to argue the opposite, you're going to need to incorporate the vast majority of the worlds cultures and religions corresponding to such.

This isn't going to be easy, coming from a guy who has taken this as an adamant interest throughout my education and my religious left-handing.
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>>53017657
Again, that's wrong. At least if you were to make a build using the Mausoleum, just like as the anon you responded to has shown.
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>>53017672
Magic was both feminine and masculine in celtic folklore, each representing contrasts and opposites. Sun and fire for men, the moon and water for women, etc.
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>>53017709
Oh? Then why did you adamantly state your opinion of the opposite?

Men don't have potential compared to women, as your intentions clearly indicate. The strongest male mage is going to be inferior to the strongest female mage.
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>tfw women at heart
>tfw my magic is superior to men's

Bow before my magical might or have your weenies shriveled!
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Very early prototype. there any merit to this idea?
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>>53017724
I didn't state that. I said that females have more magic potential. However, if you pick a male character and use the Mausoleum as a tarting point, you can get their 5 points in whichever stat into magic. Point at which you'd have a female with the same potential as a male.
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>>53017724
>you

>please realize that you are talking to various different people

But yes, Mausoleum removes the +1 Cast advantage that women have, and even allows humans to catch up to lizards when it comes to maximum Casting score.
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>>53017753
You're pretty much confirming the big annoyance with your CYOA. More potential.

People wouldn't be annoyed if the starting stats didn't dictate potential.
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>>53017747
I like the idea in concept but I'm just not feeling it here anon, sorry
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>>53017747
I better hope you include musical skill and a singing voice for free or the world will tremble at my infernal howling.
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>>53017760
Stats aren't capped at 5 are they?
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>>53017766
>You're pretty much confirming the big annoyance with your CYOA

Ewww, don't compare me to Onion!
I am a proud Anon, not some namefag
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>>53017747

Not for me...
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>>53017779

Have you even read the CYOA?
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>>53014496
QUESTION TIME
strawpoll.me/12877871
strawpoll.me/12877871
strawpoll.me/12877871
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>>53017747
I've always wanted to play something like this, go all out if you can.
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>>53017779
Stats don't cap. Females will always have +1 over men. Fuck Onion.
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>>53017766
Right, I really gotta ask now. What are you refering to when you say potential? Because we may be talking about different things.
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>>53017281
>>53017286
Odin wasn't the most powerful wizard, he was one of the more powerful but far from the best.

Also Loki all but calls Odin a tranny because of it in the poetic Edda:
>"But, it is said, thou wentest
>with tottering steps in Samsö,
>and knocked at houses as a Vala.
>In likeness of a fortune teller,
>thou wentest among people;
>Now that, methinks, betokens a base nature."
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>>53017831
Odin is a fucking god. He's the most powerful sorcerer in Norse Mythology.

If you're referring to every mythological entity on the planet, Hermes Trismegistus would more than likely be the greatest wizard.
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>>53017824
Theoretical potential. Say both a woman and a man learned magic in exactly the same way, perfectly mirroring each other.

The women would still be better according to you.
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>>53017823

Except that I just showed that to be false.
If you want max Casting score as a man, you can get it.
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>>53017823

And men will always have +1 in other stats over women.
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>>53017705
>There is no gender basis for magic, depending on the culture in question

I mean you refute your argument in your first sentence. I'm not sure how much I can trust someone who claims to be an expert if he blatantly admits he is wrong on the first go.

Mysticism has always been divided much like this anon >>53017713 said, by gender. Cultures throughout the world have had divided men and women's mystical aspects into different teachings. Heck, modern Kabbalah says that women are strictly superior to men when it comes to such teachings of the soul.

Depending on what area you're looking at magic is a woman only thing, like Norse-Germanic culture, a man only thing, like many Roman God worshiper / cults, or have been tiered into separate avenues like modern day Islam or Mormonism.
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>>53017864
Then why the fuck is Onion saying certain genders and races are superior/inferior when his/her own mechanics say otherwise?
At least when it comes to magic.
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>>53017881
>I'm not sure how much I can trust someone who claims to be an expert if he blatantly admits he is wrong on the first go.
I don't remember 'blatantly' admitting anything!

Though I'm not sure what you're getting at. You're only speaking my thoughts exactly. There is no sole gender defining magic for what it is, as culture(s) have various takes on it.

My only point is thus.
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>>53016401
Conqueror
MBT

traits
Strategy
Morale

upgrades
Odin Sentinels
grenade launcher(free)
Mechanized infantry
Junior mechanic
GES

Crew members
Operator-Eleonore
Driver-Penny
Mechanic-Judit
Gunner-Monique

North canarcican battlefront
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>>53017882

You seriously haven't read the CYOA have you?

First see what builds are possible, and save your complaining for later.

Do you even realize that +1 Casting score is equivalent to 3 months of working for the University.
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>>53017881
>Heck

When people use this word, I can't help but think 'pretentious' and 'this guy doesn't know what he's spewing'.
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>>53017912
I fully believe you. Every single word. I'm reading it now, rather. I'm just wondering why Onion lied.
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>>53017857
Ok, I get what you mean. If two different builds, both focused on cast, picked a man and a woman of the same race, and none used the Mausoleum as a starting area, then yes. Otherwise, the mausoleum is there to circumvent that particular issue, ahtough maybe tying it to a starting location was not the best of ideas.
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>>53017847
>Odin is a fucking god.
You seem to be assuming that god automatically means omnipotent.
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>>53017902
>There is no gender basis for magic.
>Except for when there is.

It's a contradiction.

>>53017913
It's apart of the California lingo brah.
>Hella discriminatory!
>Don't hate me cause I'm radical.
>Quit steppin' on my shade!
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>>53017928
Where did I assume that? That's a pretty big assumption on your part, friendo.
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>>53017932
Now you're being picky. Merely mentioning that it's impossible to pinpoint a single gender to magic as its representative. Too many differing takes.
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>>53017921
>tying it to a starting location was not the best of ideas.

The location describes it as a specialist place for studying magic.
But that doesn't make it the only place like that in the whole world, just the only one listed among the limited starting options.
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>>53017932
You have terrible reading comprehension. Absolutely abysmal.
He's stating that magic isn't gender specific ~because~ it's contradictive based on varous culture.
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>>53017947
I think you're assuming magic is some sort of whole to be considered and not an assorted grab bag of different arts and religious rituals and beliefs.

There have been many womens only mysticisms, and many (though less from what I've found) male only mysticisms.

>>53017969
There is no one "magic" to be "specific" to. It varies by culture, and thus actually is specific to *that* culture.
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>>53017947
>>53017969
>>53017994
>>53017932
>>53017902
Holy hell. You're all agreeing on the same damn thing.

You people are autistic.
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>>53018007

Only waifu cyoas with no stats allowed in the new thread to prevent autism.
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>>53017957
What I'm trying to say is that the mausoleum is the only place in which you can "respec" your build and that perhaps I should've not used the mausoleum as a starting area but as a job or a quest, something not in the first page of the CYOA. The location's description is tied to the mausoleum being a Vecator settlement which the vecator use for specifically studying magic. Not to imply that the only people interested in the place should be mages.
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Wait. Stats cap at five? I thought they could go to unlimited levels. What the fuck is this? There's a staff and a book item, so is it pointless to take them if I grabbed Mausoleum?
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>>53018012
Duh, where do you think you are?

Only place with a worse case of Autism is r9k
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>>53018026
Stats don't cap at 5. Stats don't cap. Someone made a build in which they had >150 cast.
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>>53017994

Are you dense?
There is a singular archetype called magic which we are talking about, which is built from the amalgamation of various different cultural myths and legends.

Since there is no consensus about who is better at magic, it is equally valid for a particular work of fiction to decide which gender is best at magic.

>Hermaphrodites are the most powerful Mages, because in their flesh they embody both the feminine Ying and the masculine Yang.
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Starting work on the Youkai waifu CYOA. It might take a little while.

What are your favorite youkai?
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>>53018012
I still allege I'm right and everyone else is an idiot.

>>53018020
Like this guy who forgot to put the name cyoag in the general.
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>>53018025
Why Mausoleum? I always thought it would make more sense for the university to respect, considering it's all knowledge.
You could keep the lizard-hole as a magical place, rather than an amalgam of different specs.

You already finished the CYOA though, so don't heed my opinions.
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>>53018089
life is hard and I'm bad at this
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>>53018076
>There is a singular archetype called magic

>Wrong

You can't actually believe that. Magic is vastly different across different cultures and even table top settings. You can't just throw everything into the same hat. It's stupid.
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>>53018081
The male ones.
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Hey, Onion. I feel as though the only racial issue here is based around the Drachmanians, not the elves or the vecator. Or even sand people, sadly.

If you ever edit your work, you might as well give male Drachs an equal Cast rating as women so they can stop 'REEEEEEEEEE'ing.
I think they only care about that one specific ethnicity.
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>>53018020
>>53018106
Let's try this again.

>>53018121
I already fucked up but I don't care anymore.
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>>53018136
Why no love for the Azhra?
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>Only guys in CYOA
>puts different gender stats
you deserve this
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>>53018165
There are girls here, like me!
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>>53018095
>You already finished the CYOA though, so don't heed my opinions.
I only said I was going to drop this CYOA for a while, not that I was done with it. That said, you're actually right about the university. Still, the issue of where should I put a respec method remains.
>>53018136
I think in the last version Drachma had the same cast. I did mistake Cast for Cra with the Goldstrand, so perhaps I fucked up the Drachma when editing that.
>>53018154
Probably because sandniggers.
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>>53018165
>Not wanting to be the little girl
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>>53018136
>give male Drachs an equal Cast rating as women so they can stop 'REEEEEEEEEE'ing.
This would (more than likely?) end the entire argument. Though I'm not sure if Onion will concede out of spite for the angry frogs.
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>>53017847
Well, the Norns have Odin beat for starters.
Freyja was practicing Seiðr before she ever met Odin and remains the more skill one.
Queen Skuld, who may have also been the Norn, was powerful enough she was summoning and subjugating some pretty powerful monsters.
Útgarða-Loki is ambiguous in power but was readily making a fool of Thor and Loki with his magic puts him likely towards the Odin side of things.

Then there is also the fact that Odin would go around and attend Völva meet-ups, dressed as a woman, so he could learn more. Which does suggest he wasn't the go to source for magic.

Just because he was chief of the Æsir, don't mistake that for 'best of the best'.
He knew enough magic to be called a transvestite but he was far from the best.
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>>53018247
All well and true, until you consider the bargain Odin made.

It was a cheat, but knowledge is knowledge.
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>>53018247
Freyja is a dumb slut who fucked a bunch of dwarves for pretty jewelry.
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>>53018227
I'm looking through the archived posts, see if I can dig out the last version of WIlds Outside. If I do find that Drachma had the same casting ability, I'll be editing that, since I don't even remember why would I change it in the first place.
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You guys are retarded if you think the Norse gods were the sickest of the bunch.

Just tell Odin to visit Zues and he will promptly flip you off.
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>>53016988
you do know that most enchanted swords in mythology weren't forged by wizard right?

>>53018081
Nurarihyon and Nyuudou are some of my favorits
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>>53018301
Ah yes, the Greek Pantheon. They did love incest and bodily fluids.
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>>53018284

Is there a bad reason to fuck a bunch of dwarves?
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>>53018081
Kitsune are the folklore youkai waifus.
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>>53018247
Freyja is a dumb slut who fucked a bunch of dwarves for pretty jewelry.
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>>53018283
Knowing how to read the runes didn't make Odin the most powerful, it meant he could read the runes.
And the Norns still have him beat in that regard anyway as fate and portent were their bread and butter.
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>>53018110
I wonder if you people even read each other's posts.
He pretty much said the same thing, that there's no consensus, so anything is valid.
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>>53018352
Freyja is a dumb slut who fucked a bunch of dwarves for crack cocaine.
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>>53018301
>>53018317
At one point in the old Hercules TV series, Hercules goes to Scandinavia and is amazed to find that the gods there actually give a shit about mortals and are actually helping them instead of constantly fucking with them. Does that have any basis in the actual myths? I know the Greek gods being dicks is accurate, but I don't know a whole lot about Norse mythology.
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>>53017017
>Altar
Marble.

>Blood
My blood

>Summons
1) Valkyrie (thrall)
2) Valkyrie
3) Automata
4) Automata
5) Goodwill

>Major Summon
Archangel

>Suggestion
Herald

The thrall valkyrie will be my permanent assistant and bodyguard. The 2nd valkyrie is there as a backup in case my thrall needs backup. The two automata are there as extra hands usable for whatever I need. The goodwill is a general purpose assistant to help me with minor things.

Although being the pet of a giantess demon lord fits right into my magical realm, I'm still a servant of the Lord and am gonna have to go with archangel. Purifying the land of evil demons (including the one who owns my soul currently) doesn't sound like a bad idea.
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>wake up to this thread
wow
you guys are beyond words

i mean sweet jesus get help please
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>>53018379
Greek gods were definitely the most hubristic of the gods. Norse gods seem more likeable. I'm more of an expert on the former than the latter.
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>>53018396
>evil demons (including the one who owns my soul currently)
She no only tells you how to summon Angels including the big one, she specifically says she won't do anything with your soul except summon you on her birthday for some company, and only if you want.

You, on the other hand, are going on a massed warpath of destruction killing all you see.

You're the evil one here.
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>>53018448
Anon, her pitiful existence relies on her doing evil acts to even life. She literally feeds off of evil. Now, maybe she'd prefer it a different way, and she seems like a nice girl, but sometimes if you want to make an omelet you gotta break a few eggs. Not everyone can get what they want. I'm giving up a giantess demon waifu in service of the greater good. Life's full of difficult choices anon.
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>>53018379
A lot of Norse mythos is man vs nature. The short answer is that are certainly more personable than the Greek pantheon.
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>>53018379
I don't think Norse gods regularly turn people into trees or monster out of pettiness.
From what little of read of Norse gods, their attitude towards humans generally ranged from 'meh' to 'I've got time to kill, might as well help you out'.
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>>53018484
your the one who soulfire summoned a succubus anon
quit judging
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>>53018081
Uh, yeah, I'd like to order two Tengu, a Tsukogami, a Kitsune(extra tails), a large Oni, a Shirohebi or any other sort of lamia you can shoehorn in, and a diet Yukionna(no ice please).
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>>53018174
Do the girls like you? Will demanding they like you help?
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>>53018081
Yuki-onna all day.
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>>53018081
KumihoKitsune

Bonus points if you don't go Yandere
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>>53016608
Physical combat sucks is why.
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>>53018300
There isn't, I remember complaining about it a few weeks ago until you clarified the state of Vecator's blindness.

Also holy shit you guys, this is beyond autistic. If +1 Cast is so insurmountable then Vecator must be living gods since they have +2 over even females.
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>>53017301
>>53017314
>>53017324

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