Warhammer Fantasy General - /wfg/

when painting a mordheim mercenary warband, would you use your own colours or take them from an existing scheme? finding it very hard to come up with something that isn't in the heraldry book

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>>52928071
>there is no real chance of an Age of Sail while the Asur keep a lid on Human Naval movement, even so explorers have to dodge High Elf patrols.

As far as I was aware, the High Elves had more or less stopped this, and the mystic veils and fogs had dropped? Practically everyone has a colony or two in the New World/Naggaroth/Lustria, including even the Norscans.

>on top of that a Industrial Revolution would shatter the empires unique composition and just move it closer to historical stuff which other anons mentioned already- wouldn't be too thrilling in practice.

I get that, at least long-term, but that's really to be expected, and I see no reason why it'd somehow be less interesting. I would never propose to move the timeline forward or anything, I'd only ever suggest this as an alternative setting or so, or a "What if..".

I could see it all being a lot Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura, and it would likely unite the Empire even further in the end. The Old World is already clearly heading towards an Age of Exploration combined with a long-term Industrial Revolution, all you need to do is extrapolate.

since Dark Elfs are WHFB 'Muricans, does it mean there are Dark Elf cowboys?

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>>52928622
Sorry, wrong picture.

>>52928666
the first pic was better tbqhwyf

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>>52928689
That is going to book.

>>52928628
No.

I was going to say that in the future, there might be, but at the same time, I realized that elves live too long to probably make real use of any advances of the industrial revolution. They may adopt and adapt some, but the dark elves going full cowboy feels unlikely.

Not impossible, I guess. The youngest ones might strike out on their own. The real issue as I see it is that the colonization of not!North-America is going to force a massive confrontation with the Dark Elves. Fortunately, there's a lot of land up until the border of their lands.

That being said, much of not!North-America is completely unexplored, fluff-wise. I find it hard to believe that there wouldn't be West-Coast elves of some kind, or that everything between not!Canada and not!Mexico would be uninhabited.

>>52928707
so it is true that all competent sculptors are reserved for HH

>>52928818
noice

>>52928716
they can use repeater hand crossbows
those have holsters and small magazines, right?

>Malekith made us Dark Elves and Col'thas (the repeater hand crossbow manufacturer) made us equal.

>>52928818
Sexy.

>>52928818
I never understood the point of Silver Helms. they are just discount Dragon Princes with less swag

what do young Dark Elves do when they have that angsty teen rebel phase? they are already edgelords

>>52928895
Are they really? Maybe most dark elves are just relatively normal folks. They were once all just elves, the difference is purely political.

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>>52928622
>As far as I was aware, the High Elves had more or less stopped this
they have not, High Elves, even during and immediately before the SoC, most likely afterwards too, regulated the Human Oversea traffic, most notably they prohibit the travel to the New World by Human Explorers and Pirates, despite that many get through, but you can't expect any large scale colonisation or sea travel between the two continents while High Elves still have a Navy to dwarf the Maritime Powers of the Old World.

>The Old World is already clearly heading towards an Age of Exploration
the Old World can't even colonize the Badlands, or pacify the Norscans, not even in the Southlands, them grabbing Land overseas is a pipe dream, and don't forget the Lizardmen, who by this point have demolished most of the Colonies that were established, and the Dark Elves who would raze and enslave any colonies established north of Hexoatl.
>>52928628
Dark Elves aren't the settings Murricans, and I don't remember Hudson bay having a whole lot of Cowboy culture.
>>52928818
that looks beautiful, but,
>Silver Helms
>anyone but the High Helm having an adorned helmet

>>52928707
that goblin looks like my chunk of blu-tac after I absentmindedly twist and squeeze and mash it

>>52928883
Not every elven knight should be Dragon Prince.

>>52928883
Silver Helms are the regulated Cavalry Company.

Dragon Princes are young Caledori Nobles taking a vacation on the Battlefields.

Caledor also has Silver Helms.

>>52928895
they try to ride cold ones

to do so they cover themselves in their mucus which is smelly as fuck and almost singlehandedly make you lose the sensibility of your skin for the rest of your life

then from teen edgelords they become adult nobles: the dull salarymen of elven society

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>>52928895
skip Skinning Classes and hang out with the local Witch Elves.

the especially stupid ones join a Corsair Crew and never their degree in Advanced Slavery until they reach 300 and have to go to evening school before wokring as a Slave Castration Office Accountant for the rest of their bleak and monotonous lives, counting ballsacks until they throw themselves off the highest tower in Karond Kar.

>>52928549
Use your family coat of arms.

>>52929034
carroburg here i come

do daemons of incomprehensible and everchanging Chaos always look like minor variations of each other, or the minis we get is just an approximation, or the most well-known version or something?

>>52929046
yes

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>>52929046
in my headcanon the four flavoured demon allegiances are the small minority of daemons in the realms of Chaos, while the vast majority of Daemons are shapeless and masterless beings not bound to either of the four gods, and often manifesst in the shapes imagined by Mortals when entering the Mortal Realms.

example, Chaos Furies, one of my favourite old models.

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As an atheist male feminist who enjoys WHFB 6th, how should I prep my wife for Muscular Stormcast Cosplayer BBC ?
You all do that on a daily basis so I need your help.

>>52929166
>whfb 6th players
>being male feminists
>having a wife

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>>52929215
>not recognizing intentionally obvious bait

>>52929046
IIRC they have a varied look allthough common core elements.

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>>52929227
>implying I didn't
tangentially related greentext and then a smug anime girl was the procedure as far as I remembered

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>>52919124
THank you VERY much for this information, the fact that you answer the question long after it's posted really cheers me up!

All the information you posted is super-relevant to the game I'm going to try practice on this weekend. = )

>>52919439
Did not know about the standard/magic standard difference, thanks for explaining that in an easy to understand way!

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>>52928622
>>52928936
I was the one who posted the Industrialized Empire question last thread, nice to see it got attention.
And what do you mean it would be a more boring option? Because in my head I'm seeing a Warhammer version of Fall of the Samurai, and it seems like it would be cool.
Especially when that advancing Empire starts expanding.
As well, the original adventure I was writing was to take place in Norsca as the Empire was starting to get imperialistic towards them, starting with trade companies and then maybe escalating to an invasion. Any advice on handling that?

How do Vampires make thralls? Do they just have to feed and not kill them or is it an intentional ritual or thing like hypnotizing them?

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>>52929334
it's basically a Glamour, the weaker willed the target the easier it is.

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Dead Thread

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>>52930154
It's not dead until there's nobody left to bump it.
Also still waiting on >>52929320 to get a response.

>>52930154
>one hour between posts
>on /tg/
Anon please. Go play video games if you're too ADHD for comfy boards and threads.

reposting from last thread as it didn't get an answer before thread ded

I'm trying to figure out a good army for warhammer 8th edition 'regiments of renown' ruleset. I have the following empire units I could choose from
Knights Wlances
Reiksguards
Greatswords
swordsmen
Archers
1 handgunner

I Just don't know what effectively kills stuff

I Often fight 100points of dryads or chaos

My usual list is as follows.
inner circle Knight leader,
sw
handgunner xgreatsword
then an assortment of greatswords and handgunners.

>>52928622
>including even the Norscans
>even the Norscans
>even

They are the best shipwrights and sailors aside from the elves...

>>52928707
Actually...I might buy this if the price isn't ludicrous.

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>>52930191
>>52929320
there's not a lot to add to that argument, you think a modernized and centralized Imperialistic Empire would be cool, other anons think it would remove the Charme of the Empire.

Opinions differ, you can't have an objective argument based on it. It also requires a Warhammer World where High Elves have lost all their Influence, which won't sit right with a lot of People.

It makes for a skubby Fanfiction, but I wouldn't put too much time into that idea.

>>52928622
Nobody has colonies in the New World except the Norscans and the Elves

The Empire has no interest in the sea and last time Bretonnians went to Lustria nobody returned

>>52930712
Estalia does, and technically so do the Vampires

>>52930751
One Vampire stranded there, doesn't make them the Spanish Conquistadors.

>>52930547
>best shipwrights

indeed
>stone age technology
>logs roughly filed with axes is closest they have to planks
>tackling is two ropes at best
>questionable if even aware of iron nails
>shitty one-mast one-deck drakkars is pinnacle of seamanship

indeed

>>52929046
Daemons originally didn't have that lore. Once upon a time, lore and models matched closely rather than models following lore and GW constantly added new factions.

Then they fired the guy that literally designed all of Chaos but ripped off his designs since he still actually owned them, and every model afterwards has just been minor changes to that.

So even though Chaos became infinitely varied, they just kept releasing minor variations to what he came up with and added nothing actually new.

If a new release comes out it will be N/K/S/T and will fit the themes he invented for them.

>>52929320
Depends on how industrialized

Also the Empire already tried to conquer Norsca in the Lore, but they simply can't hold it. Even if they manage to submit the belligerent tribes on it, remember that Norsca is completely and utterly corrupted by Chaos, even it's ground and mountains and wildlife.

With the influence of Chaos, the tribes would rise to rebellion constantly, and all empire colonist would gradually get corrupted and devolve into the native barbaric way.

>>52930712
Empire has colonies in Albion and Southlands.

>>52930712
>and last time Bretonnians went to Lustria nobody returned
Wasn't that just some stupid knights thinking they could slay dragons there? They have a powerful navy, but there seems to be no good reason for them to establish colonies elsewhere.

>>52930782
Albion is right next to them and is completely cut off from the world by magic, the Southlands are overrun by beastmen

even if they had colonies, they don't anymore

>>52929334
Lahmians feed without killing. Everyone promises power. Strigoi get willing Thralls in the Strigany, and all Vampires get Ghouls as willing as well.

>>52930787
>Wasn't that just some stupid knights thinking they could slay dragons there?

yes

>>52930547
Norscans are competend Sailors, not good Shipwrights.

>>52930796
>the Southlands are overrun by beastmen
when did that happen?

>>52930826
Around 7th edition i guess. I remember distinctivelt seeing a map of beastmen propulation in the world and the Southlands and Ind were packed full

more that that, it's actually the home of most of clan pestilens after Sotek kicked their asses off Lustria. If the Empire had a colony there (which i never heard of) it's long gone

>>52930712
I like to headcanon it so that Bretonnians have a pair of small islands off the Scorpion coast of Lustria. They act as a place to gather forces for searches for gold, of course, but their main reason for existence is sugar cane - they have to keep important peasants to keep harvesting the stuff, but even the deathtoll from heat and injury can't make a dent in the large profits that are made.

The whole fiefdom is on rather shaky ground, since its Lord isn't well regarded back home - he lost his lands back in Bretonnia proper, which is why he set out for Lustria in the first place. Even ignoring whatever shame there was, he is far more profit-focused than most nobles. And Bretonnian law isn't entirely clear on how this fief should be treated, since it's so distant from Bretonnia itself, and it's seen as unchivalrous to hold 'foreign territory' as some sort of colony.

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>>52930922
you do know that the Beastmen density on the map doesn't actually mean they are in a position to take over anything?

Also the Southlands and Ind combined have about the same density as the Empire and Forest of Arden, not too severe. Most of the Beastmen live in the Chaos Wastes, Populations on other parts of the World are mainly scattered bands that live nomadically and hide in the Forest BECAUSE they are not in the position to take over anything.

Clan Pestilens being based in the Southlands doesn't impact this at all, since they aren't able to project any force there.

And not even the "packed full" areas are controlled, or "overrun" by Beastmen, since they are the bitches of both Norscans and Chaos Tribes in the Wastes.

I really don't get how people get the idea all the time in Post-Anything discussions that "Beastmen took it over" or "overran that region", since their two most achieved Individuals, only ever had the impact of razing a few Middenland Villages or causing a ruckus in Athel Loren in Khazrak and Morghur respectively, Beastmen are the fodder and guerillia fighters of Chaos, not a World Ending Doomtide lurking in the Forests.

>>52930796
Sudenburg is still a thing by the time of the Storm of Chaos if I'm not mistaken.

Does anyone have the updated Zweihander - Grim & Perilous Rulebook so we could finally play WFRP like civilized people?

>>52928533
>mentioning AoS
OP is still a faggot

>>52928628
More like coldboys

>>52931073
But that's in Araby, right? not the actual southlands

Also how come nobody ever mentions it in any WFRP books or recent lore?

>>52928883
wew lad, not every elf is born a prince

>>52930774
>stone age technology
>questionable if even aware of iron nails
They're vikings, not cavemen, jesus.
Also clinker-built ships, while invented earlier than carvel, are not necessarily superior. Carvel-built ships can be bigger but they are less efficient and robust.
Which is part of the reason the vikings discovered the Americas so early.

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>>52931399
>recent lore
because it's not standing in Archaons way of total planetary fedora tippery.

>>52931399
It's in the gulf of Medes, between Araby and the Southlands.

>>52931391
HE LEARNED IT FROM YOU, SIGMAR!

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I'm just gonna leave this here.

http://www.impactminiatures.com/index.php?option=samhaino_profile&id=LI_ARCW

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>>52931427
>>52930774
And just while we're on the subject, let's pull up some direct quotes.

Anyone know where i can find some official or even fan-made info about Albion and it's people?

I'm running a WFRPG soon and i was thinking on having the players have a field trip there

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>>52931478
There isn't a lot.
Try taking a look at the 'Warhammer Dark Shadows (6ed)' pdf in the first link in the OP. That's probably the best official source.
Other than that there's long-outdated early Warhammer material like The Tragedy of McDeath.

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>>52931478
most of it is Gigaskub tier since the only people interested in it are Celtboos.

example:"their Druids were taught by the Old Ones and their mastery of High Magic is greater even than that of the High Elves."

they were also the true cause behind defeating the Original Chaos Invasion and so on.

>>52931583
Didn't stop the Lizardmen from taking it over and turning it into Lustria 2.0.

Which is funny given how much Brits hate Mexicans.

Necromancers tote the line between living and dead right? Can this happen to animals?

>>52931576
>>52931583
Thank you bois

I'm not planning to do much with it anyway, really.
I'll probably have them recover some lost lore of a wizard that went there and vanished, and maybe learn a thing or two about waystones while fighting naked men and swamp demons

>>52931576
>The Tragedy of McDeath.
Mannfred mentions him in TWW.

>>52931613
>Which is funny given how much Brits hate Mexicans.
We do?

>>52931583
>most of it is Gigaskub tier since the only people interested in it are Celtboos.
I mean the people of Albion are still naked living in mud huts in the swamp. That doesn't sound very celtaboo to me. The fact that they are living next to super high tech old one ruins is kind of an irony more than anything else.

>>52930253
pls respond

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>>52931628
can Animals learn the Lore of Necromancy?

>>52931694
Well, BBC really does.

https://youtu.be/MrTbBfrkC34

>>52931628
It pretty much happens to anything exposed to Dhar it mutates them

>>52931749
Humans do

>>52931770
Man, the BBC has its share of problems, but that video is terrible.

Are we really saying the British hate Mexicans because Top Gear did some jokes about Mexicans being lazy? They take the piss out of everyone, especially themselves.

>>52931770
Top gear mocks everything and everyone but the Chileans.
And that was because they were lynched out of Argentina and had to ask for asylum.

What's your favourite army design/lorewise? I love the Tomb Kings and Skaven, the general concept for Skaven society is really interesting and unique.

Anybody have any pics of pink empire models? I bought some P3 paint and it looked nice in the bottle but I brought it home and it's just fucking pink.

>>52932321
Everything but WoC, Tzeentch Daemons, and Beastmen looks good to me.

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>>52932321
I am an aboslute slut for anything ancient Egypty, so Tomb Kings are a definite favorite.

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>>52932705
Generally speaking my favourite is High Elves, but there are designs and snippets of lore from most factions I really like.

>>52930815
Do their ships manage to travel around the whole whf world? Aye they do. Guess they are kinda good at ship building.
It's rather hard to raid all over the world with shit ships.

>>52931474
The story of Skeggi always gets me.
>raid Lustria
>not because glory or lust for blood
>but to pay the bride price for mah waifu
>found a settlement
>not naming it after something awesome I did
>neither something to honor the gods
>but after my first dautheru

Norse confirmed for secret softies.

>>52932858
so do Orcs on Rafts?

Norscan ships aren't that sophisticated, they fulfill their purpose well enough but they are not second best shiprights to the Elves. Dwarfs build objectively better ships, and for all we know so do the Southern Realms.

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>>52932321
I'm a pleb so death metal vikings get me off.

>>52932919
at least you aren't in denial about it.

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>>52932321
I love vampire counts. There is just something so cool to me about Ghosts and shit fighting mortal armies. I am currently working on a 2,000 point army for 6th ed and I am having a blast. Also I love WoC and Skaven(Which I have large armies of)

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>>52928818
where did this come from? Where did pic related come from?

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>>52933009
Total War facebook page.

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>>52933041
never thought that wretched site would come in handy again.

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>>52933149
>>52933127
>>52933009
CA really nailed it with those Concept Arts. My only complaint is the Slann so far.

>>52933195
I like Malekith's mask looks silly compared to 'dark imposing shadow face'

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So I got that Bible case I ordered from christianbooks.com for carrying my Warhammer rulebook. It's pretty much the perfect size for carrying a game rulebook, and there's even enough room left inside to fit an army codes.

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>>52933468
Here it is with my books. I think it would be a great option for Pathfinder and D&D books, too.

I want to attach a patch to it but I need to figure out if sewing or a flexible glue is the best option. Ironing will destroy pleather so that's not a option.

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>>52933412
I think it's a good adaption of his Concept. He'd probably look like Vader beneath his mask.

>>52933468
>>52933501
This isn't your blog, nobody cares

>>52931365
Next time I put in an order from Z I am totally getting some Blood Knights. From GW they're way too expensive but the models themselves are ace.

>>52933515
It just seems a little overornate to me. Everyone complains about Archaon's horns, I complain about Malekith's mask.

>>52933768
yeah, Malekiths Horns are a bit obtuse too.

>>52933501
Noice. Might get one for my old, dessicated books. GW used to use really cheap glue to bind hardback rulebooks.

>>52933542
If we don't care about opinions related to the hobby, why should we care about yours, which isn't even that?

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So I have all the pieces to the mortis engine, minus the ghosts holding it up. What can I do with the upper half? Any cool ideas?

>>52933950
Could turn it into a twisted chariot - the bone-like structure of the top half could be painted loke wood, and it could be turned into a twisted or corrupted wood elf thing.

>>52933950
Put it on wheels, replace the necromancer with a Wraith. Use it as a corpse cart?

>>52932998
Skaven are really interesting, I love how they live their lives in constant fear and mistrust, how they could be ridiculously OP but they're basically crazy from being on edge and betrayed constantly so they're chaotic and rarely form together. The Horned Rat in general is a great concept, with them not even being 100% sure of his existence for a while. It's a shame how they're generally used as generic badguy cannon fodder in most media, we haven't seen much with Skaven protagonists (if anything). The videogames have them exclusively as unplayable enemy units with zero character.

>>52933863
He wasn't sharing an opinion, you willfully ignorant twat. He was updating us on some stupid book he made.
Now please, return to reddit.

>>52934098
the vast majority of skaven are fodder with zero character.

>>52934137
I'd argue that Skaven as a race/society are one of the most characterful in the fantasy world, they're just dismissed easily as boring since by design they fight in large swarms of samey-looking units.

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>>52934132
((You))

>>52934132

His opinion on a book cover is still his opinion.

On the other hand, you are just a tit, trying to get a rise out of people on 4chan. You have my pity.

>>52934184
>>52934196
Humour me, why did you kids leave reddit? Did they hate you there, too?

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>>52934236

>>52934181
>>52934184
I did not say anything like that, but the vast majority of skaven simply aren't much of a personality.

Even their heroes and Generals are usually just slightly more important fodder.

Actual Characters for the Skaven are few and far between like Thanquol. But it's still hard to create a good skaven character in the first place since they are so alien anf unrelateable for the average person.

It's much easier to empathize with a poor sod in a uniform holding a halberd than with a malicious looking rodent with a flamethrower. You kinda want to see the latter killed asap. Even Chaos Warriors and Ogre Tyrants are more relateable, and at least the Cold but elegant Lizardmen are majestic and awe inspiring.

Even Orcs are at least dumb and silly, what do Skaven have? Stench and beady eyes.

>>52934295
Nice macro image response. Typical braindead reddit behavior.

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>>52934302
I agree with this, and I am a huge Skaven fan and have 5k+ points of them. I thought about running a Skaven game for a long time, but it would only work as a one off honestly. The Skaven mindset is so alien that it's hard to get in to, and I can't think of a good way to do a campaign where characters die every session.

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>>52934330
>He keeps falling for the bait
>Call others retarded
I had a good KEK anon, thank you.

>>52934302
True, there are still plenty of possible directions to go though. Like a young skaven that gets abandoned/stranded along above ground and has to try and survive with all their fear and mistrust in such a situation, while the rest of the world wants them dead. Maybe they learn to be more trusting, maybe they become a strong warrior, I don't know. It's a shame that not many have tried to write character into them though, there's definitely space for it given the amount of potential their society has. Maybe a Skaven goes looking for the Horned Rat or something, or tries to challenge him.

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>>52934369
>he was so hated on reddit he came to 4chan
>everyone hates him here too
It's like pottery

>>52934389
I don't think a lone skaven would survive above ground for very long. Most likely eaten by Wolves before the sun comes up.

Also Skaven aren't really suited to living in solidarity. Despite looking like rats, they are much more dependent on their social infrastructure.

>a Skaven finds a black cloak with hood and lives amongst night goblins for a year
probably a better live with squig meat, shrooms and booze all day.

I remember reading that the planet (some kind of
dreary name I can't recall) wfb is on is bigger than Earth, but about how much bigger? How big is the Empire compared to modern countries?

>>52934132
I was giving my opinion on a product that I bought to use with this hobby. If it makes you upset you can ignore it.

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>>52934409

>>52933041
So is GW finally using Black Gobbo again? Will they bring back his magazine?

>>52934747
He's been on-and-off for a long time... He's on that White-Dwarf astronaut figure, dressed up as an alien, iirc.

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>>52934574
GW shat out random numbers for scale in maps most of the time because thereareasmanyelvesastheplotdemands, and when someone actually ran the numbers using Nehekhara as a base Mallus is ten times the size of Earth.

Mallus is not the real name of the planet, it was never named so it was always called the Warhammer World, but ET and AoS calls the planet core Mallus and its quicker to type so some of us call it that even if we hate those.

The Empire is patterned after Holy Roman Empire Germany, a loose confederacy united in faith and under a ruler who's claim is supported by that faith. So pic related.

>>52934865
Jese, 10 times would mean Reikland alone could be as big as the continental United States.

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>>52934911
Not quite, but close.

>>52934911
The debate on whether its actually 10x bigger or GW cannot into using maff and numbaz has caused many autistic bitchfights here.

Technically speaking the latter makes the former true. But some argue that only an autistic obsessive would go through the effort of trying to figure it out and that its obviously not true, the counter-argument being why can't it be true and only autistic obsession would make someone argue something that doesn't matter either way. Plus not all math is incorrect, there's another formula involving Bretonnia maps as a base where its only around twice as big.

All in all, the best answer is the one at the start of old Warhammer supplements prior to 6e, and even some in 6e too. "This setting is only an example to base your own on, use as much or as little as you want."

>>52931656

Does he? That doesn't surprise me actually, CA seem like long term fans.

>>52935497
He says in diplomacy screen.

>>52935497
There's odd references here and there. It took me three times seeing it to realize fucking Noctilius from Dreadfleet was begging Vlad for handouts.

>>52935497
Light Wizards will occasionally invoke Aluminas when they cast spells

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So after some suggestions from last thread, heres the 3rd draft of the skaven list vs Welfs. Appreciate input as always. Still pretty new to fantasy and trying to figure out what im missing.
Lords/Heros
>Warlord (General)
Weeping Blade, Rat ogre Bone breaker mount, Shield
>Greyseer
Dispell scroll, Tailismen of preservation
>Warlock Engineer
Lvl 1, Warp energy condenser, Doomrocket
>Chieftain
BSB, Banner of the Under empire

Core:
>Clanrats x32
Musician, Champ, stand, shield
>Clanrats x30
Musician, Champ, stand, shield
>Storm Vermin x32
Shields, Musician, Champ, Storm Banner

Special:
>Warpfire thrower
On Clanrats
>Ratling gun
On other clanrats
>Gutter runners x5
Slings, poison attacks, Champ

Rare:
>Hellpit abomination
>Warplightning Cannon
>Warplightning Cannon

Comes out to an even 2000 pts,

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Troll bump

>>52939076
>Trolls
>Ogre-sized
>Humanoid
>Have stomach acid capable of dissolving anything
>As a result can eat anything

Are Trolls just a stable mutation of Ogres? If not, what are they?

>>52939312
They're Chaos born monsters.

>>52939373
Which makes Chaos Trolls... double chaos?

>>52939453
I suppose.

>>52928622
Thats why you play up the fantasy parody of real world shit even more.

Have the Empire industrialize and go full steam punk with some dwarf refugees teaching humans dwarf tech. Then have the empire split apart.
Have Brettonia, Estalia and Tilea unionize with Norsca and everything west of the Middle Mountains into the Old World Union.
Have the North and East of the empire join with Sylvania and Kislev to become Fantasy Russia ruled by Tzar Vladimir Rasputin, thats starts expansionisming into the Dark Lands.

>>52939570
Obviously Albion starts off as part of the OWU, but is colonised by Halfling immigrants from the moot, who immediately Albexit the OWU, and now mainly kowtows to Ulthuan serving as their proxy and backup in wars and shit.

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>>52939453
Double the chaos, double the troll.

>>52935785

I thought Noctilus was dead? Or trapped in the warp or something.

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>oh yeah this setting is awesome, I really want to get some minis to show of-
>sees Nagash mini

Why does Games Workshop do this. Also, post the worst minis from WFB.

Has anyone here built the IoB Elves? They're so fucking annoying, every time you clip the spear off the little finials on the blade always snap off. Any tips on how to remove very brittle models from a frame?

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>>52940676

That model is from 1994 I believe. Even though it was considered hideous even back then.

I'm going to go for this, the laziest shit I've ever seen. Looks even worse in the flesh. Get the old Slambo remake instead.

>>52940676
Nagash is a special case of the sculptor going "I'm gonna make a skeleton" and GW wanting him to be not a skeleton so both sides went "Fuck you" and ending up with that

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>>52940676
This is why we never got that Chaos Dwarfs update

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>>52940780
Old school Chaos warriors had character if nothing else.

>>52940888

All the old citadel range had loads of character and GW somehow managed to suck it all out in that mirrored monstrosity.

>>52940888
This looks like one of those image macros where someone captions a group photo with nicknames for each person

>>52940983
you should see the old lizardmen names

>>52940780
Is he supposed to be an android?

There's no way that's a Chaos warrior

>>52941166

Have a look at the 360 on the GW website, he has no neck, his back armour just continues on into his head.

I honestly believe this was the final insult to the Fantasy fans.

>>52932917
Dorf ships are not good with open waters. They are amazing in coastal regions or rivers however.

Orks mostly travel by land.

The southern realms are about norse level, I guess.

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>>52941209
>he has no neck, his back armour just continues on into his head.

That's because he's old school.

>I honestly believe this was the final insult to the Fantasy fans.

It's just a fun little call back.

>>52941209

Just like removing square bases, right?

>>52941572

They did it to save money, meant having 1 less cast for a separate head.

>>52941649

Well skirmish games do look better on rounds so I never took that as an insult.

>>52928533

So why are carroburg greatswords a unit from reikland if carroburg is in middenland?

I know this might not be the best place to ask, but are any of the Warhammer fantasy games any good? I love the setting but live in the middle of nowhere so meeting up in person with people isn't easy, especially for niche stuff like this.

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>>52942303
Since carroburg's right on the border, it's not really strange for it to change hands over time.

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So I have this idea that a million other people probably had ideas for in the past:
I have a group of 5 whom I play WHFB regularly. What I wanted to do was a kind of mini tabletop campaign, by pretty much having a WHFB map and split it up to be baisically a risk board. When moving pieces, you actually fight out the battles.
I'm trying to think of special rules and such. Example: A defending player can get an extra 5 points or somthing for each territory he controlls thats touching the immediate battle ground (kind of like reienforcments, ect.).
Another example:Players rolling for the spy network before each battle. You both make your blind lists, but on a 5+ your opponant reveals his list, and you may change one unit (symbolizing battlefield intel to let you bring the right tech for the job, but not enough to completely fuck them over for balance). You can pay 10 points or somthing if you havent spent it all to give +1 to your spy roll (i.e, you send some of your guys to infiltrate so they wont be in battle). Its an interesting way to make you consider your points allotted as a sort of currency.
I'm trying to figure a way to calculate just how big a battle should be, like if I sould just mark on the maps if an area is a skirmish/battle/or grand army, or if it would be better to just draw a random point value from a deck or somthing.

Any neat ideas from /WHFG/?

>>52942303
Back during the founding of the Carroburg Greatswords, it was the Age of the Three Emperors - at the time Carroburg was controlled by Reikland, the greatswords defending Carroburg from Middenland. It's a point of honor for them to continue to serve Reikland because of that history.

>>52942351
I've only played a couple:
>Vermintide
As a Skaven player I love it, but it does get kind of repetative.

>Mark of Chaos
Was fun for a while for an rts type thing, but was nothing special, lost my interest quickly

>Total warhammer
Definetly a good step for getting a vidya adaption, but it dosnt have all the units and armies yet, and currently its on part 1 of 3, so dont expect your favorite stuff to represented for a while, and even then, its not a given that your favorite units will be in.

>>52942351

Vermintide is fun and can be gotten on sale pretty frequently

Total warhammer is fun as fuck and nails the tone of warhammer fantasy

>>52940780
not everything has to be ultradetailed, he looks nice, though i am not sold on those shoulderpads.he would look great with(god have mercy on my soul) space marine shoulderpads.

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>>52942691

I got quire addicted to Vermintide, just as I was getting bored of it I would get an orange weapon and I would be straight back.

Millage may very though, it's so random that it can get very annoying if you only play 1 character and you're waiting for a specific weapon. Like Dwarf shield and axe which is objectively his best melee weapon.

>>52940854
Because of BB miniatures?

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>>52942874

He has a chainmail diaper...

>>52942929
That's nasty, it'd be like pushing peanut butter through a thimble

>>52942621
The risk thing sounds a bit too long even for a campaign, but if you are going with it, why not give people army markers like tanks in risk and every marker is worth 100 points for example? so that the map actually matters.(or maybe go full madman and make every marker a set unit he will be fielding if the marker gets in a battle, but that would be a huge mess probably)

>>52942966

Yep...

Like getting Nutella out a shag carpet.

>>52942929
seems to me like you are being too nitpicky here, surely having chainmail on your ass doesn't qualify a miniature for the worst of warhammer.

>>52942929
yes, because the models he is directly based on also have them

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>>52943009
>>52943038

Why are people defending this piece of shit when we have this rendition of Slambo?

Shall I go on?

His hunchback is about 2 feet wide.
A model of his size needs something to break up the open space.
He was as deep as a bus.

Worst of all his AoS rules (which I don't care about) were shit, he was a normal champion in every way except he could throw infinite axes.

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>>52943086
>Why are people defending this piece of shit
It's a 1-1 recreation of an old model using modern equipment. They did the same thing with the imperial space marine.

I think they could have chosen a better warrior model as the base, but complaining about them not changing shit is missing the point.

>>52930712
>The Empire has no interest in the sea
If you genuinely believe this, you're retarded.

>>52943086

Don't even mention aos rules even if they were real rules we are talking about the miniature, who cares about proportions? And what do you mean his size? I thought he had a 25 mm base and was around the size of old slambo. And as i said at the beginning not everything has to be ultradetailed, he looms good, you might say he should be busier which i agree with, but he still looks good eventhough he is not perfect and he definitely isn't their worst miniature.(you do remember the post you replied to said worst miniature and not one you don't like right?)

>>52943241
They do have the most fleshed out naval organization lore-wise. I can kind of get why the other anon got mixed up, though - they're definitely more land than naval focused. They mostly have a navy to protect from Norscans - it's pretty recently that they've started having expeditions and stuff.

I want to make a irl book of grudges to hit people with.


Any ideas on a good looking book?

>>52942621
Two points :

The scale of a 2000 points WHFB battle is a small skirmish by medieval standards. Take that as you will.

The campaign should also determine the scenario and the scenery.

>>52943328
>hitting people with a book of grudges
In the book it goes

>>52942974
We would probably take a single turn a week each, just one battle at a time and next time it's the next in lines turn.
Was maybe thinking each marker be a named chacrater peice, and that's the general for the battle.

>>52943221

Well this doesn't make sense to me, if people wanted something that looked like the original Slambo then why didn't GW do a MTO weekend for him.

Seems like Slambo V3 is the worst of both worlds, he looks like shit and he isn't even considered eligible for Oldhammer.

>>52943235

He's on a 40mm base and from the side he looks morbidly obese.

>>52940888
I love these.

>Slambo
>Arnie Slicernecker
>Chenghis Crump
>Sir Gigal De Appliance

And for many others I'm probably missing the reference.

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>can't rape the female characters for a extra few hits of moral against opposing units
>can't rape the male characters either, which is gay, but even funnier

Literally why? Isn't that Slaanesh 101? Why won't GW incorporate my fetish into the game?

>>52943629
Play Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay as a Slaanesh worshiping Norscan.

>>52932321
Funny how everybody loved tombking and nobody bought a kit in the last 20 years

>>52943767
When was the last good tomb kings kit released ?

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>>52932321
BEASTMAN AMBUSH RAKIN IN THAT SWEET DRAKWALD PUSS!

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>>52943767

Yeah that is funny, it's almost as if GW gimped their rules and then made the game shit or something...

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Could you please stop shitting in 40k thread ?

Most of us are happy getting rid of this fucked game, the difference is that the average "40kids" isnt a poor fucker like you, our game isnt squatted faggot.
enjoy being alone dreaming about 1990 while I can play a game of 40k in Every relevant coumtry in the world by just walking in a store.

The WHFB guys were the same 4 fatty in the back of the store talking about they they are totally going to start a chais dwarf army since 2010.
You choose to kill you game, fime but dont shitpost.

>>52943866
I am going to shitpost even harder in 40k now for you.

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>>52943866
>40kids
>Slav

kys faggot.
Dreaming is better than playing anyway.

>>52943853

Is he scratching his arse with the back of that axe?

>>52943866

Don't take your anger about 8th edition out on us.

>>52943629
If they incorporated your fetish, they'd have to start incorporating every fetish.

>>52943945
Im not angry, im fucking glad, everyone but 3 faggots (comming from here as you cam see >>52943890) are fucking glad.
Thats the difference between heavy autism and being able to accept the better system.

>>52943866
are you having a stroke ?

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>>52944011

>>52943991
>better system.
>12 year olds believe this

>>52943086
Slambo comes from an Era when Chaos Warriors weren't 7ft'8 superhumans, but hunchbacked, wide, chaos mutants just two steps from exploding into a chaos spawn.

when you look at artwork and models from that time they all have that look.

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>>52944108
I miss being 12 a bit desu famalam

>>52943991

> The year is 2035.
> GW is a smoking ruin after the semen slurping wars between Age of Smeg and 40Kek fan boys.
> Where did it all go so wrong?
> As fuckbois wade through eBay looking for unopened sigmar marines a shrill call echoes in the distance...

It was us Austin... it was us all along.

>>52944191
>meanwhile 42 year old me will be swimming in 8th/9th games with my sweet ass vintage dwarf army.

>>52944228

> The year is 2548 and even though space travel has been perfected people in Nottingham are still playing 3rd edition Fantasy with Ansell's head attached to a robotic body.

>>52944311
>>52944191
>playing anything but 6th ed
best rules, best lore, best compositions

>>52943866
What is even the point of that post ?

>>52944544
To get (You)'s.

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>>52944544

It's a laugh innit'?

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Praise Gazul!

>>52931427
>vikings, not cavemen
romantic image from popular culture aside, what's the big difference? besides shitty iron weapons, since neither norscans nor vikings got access to proper smelting or steel-improving additions?

>>52931474
>it's believed
>legends tell
>there are tales
now that's solid proof

also
>Norse... to battle the treacherous Chaos Marauders
Norse ARE Chaos Marauders. what idiot wrote this text?

>>52932910
>bride price
>most likely skulls and blood for the cliche god
>first daughter
>most likely sacrificed to the ruinous powers for a mutation or two

don't forget they are fucking Norscans

>>52932321
Wood Elves
I totally adore the Fair Folk vibe they and their forest have, that with fucked up passage of time, pathways that hardly ever lead in the same place twice, whole herds of beastmen simply lost wandering the forest, etcetera.... and then the Dreaming Wood imposed on top of that
and Elves feeling perfectly at home there

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>>52935489
Not sure if grudgin' or cool.

>>52933950
What this guy said >>52934003

Go all-out with the "engine" part. Make it into a bitching medieval monster truck.

>>52940687
never had anything snap, except for Lothern Champ's sword
git gud... no, git mediocre at least

>>52943866
that's NOT enough dakka

>>52933950
You could just buy a recast of the bottom part for $17 from Zanuchi.

These stupid kits where GW gives you almost all the parts to build two different models except for a few key pieces always pissed me off. It's one thing to have something like a Daemon Prince where you can choose between heads, weapons, and wings, but what I'm talking about is basically plastic DRM. They do the same thing with Vargheists / Crypt Horrors and Black Knights / Hexwraiths too. If you buy recast parts for a few bucks from china you can use your authentic plastic parts from the kit and actually finish the second model (or model set) using mostly plastic.

>>52945592
hexwraiths got it easy, you just need some skellington horses (or any horses, if you're going full ghost) and they are fine

agree about the others... although it meant there used to be a lots of bits on ebays

Hey fags, listen here

Lorewise, are dwarves capable of lie and deception? Since they are portrayed as straightforward and literal in both speech and action, would a dwarf be able to blatantly lie?

>>52945669
Yes

>>52945669
of course

>>52945680
>>52945688
But how? Since they are extremely literal, to the point of not understanding puns, how could they say something not true? Wouldn't it be some kind of shame for them?

>>52944136
Holy shit I love that book.
My copy is held togeher with sellotape

>>52934351

Play it as Paranoia, with the Council replacing the friendly computer

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>>52944442
Hell yes my melanin filled companion

>>52938311

Much, much better! Remember: weapon squad are CORE! they count towards you minimun core points!

>>52945716
Being literal doesn't mean that they can't outright lie. What they shouldn't be able to do is stating half-truths or talking in riddles, making statements with multi-layered or hidden meanings.
>Wouldn't it be some kind of shame for them?
Not every fantasy creature is a flawless individual of its own archetype.

Hear me out here: would dwarf and an elf manage to be friends after spending some time together? Considering that while the dwarf is a typical dorf, the elf is very particular and odd, having lived more among humans than elves.
If they become buddies, would the dwarf be able to ask his elders to let the elf visit their hold?

>>52945749
I'm stealing that idea!

holy shit, this is gonna be so awesome!

>>52945716
ability to lie and being literal have absolutely nothing to do with each other

>>52945773
gee, I wonder if any classical fantasy author did anything exactly like that. none I can think of right now, but I'm pretty sure there must be one...

>>52945773
Dwarfs aren't outright hostile to Elfs, Finubar visited a Dwarf Hold. Elved trade on Barak Varr, it is just that they don't trudt each other or are on particularily friendly terms.

Vermintides Kerillian and Bardin are a good example of them being not too trustful, but knowing who their actual enemies are.

And remember that Asrai hate Dwarfs more than Asur do. I wouldn't expect any sleepovers though.

>>52945790
>>52945795
Basically you'll be fine but expect the Elf to get spat at and the occasional thing thrown at him. Also at least a couple of angry Dwarfs to try and take a swing at him to avenge the ancestors.

Also expect the Dwarf to get a few funny looks and nicknames as a result.

>>52945773

>>52945790
Ha fucking ha you salty faggot.
Problem is warhammer dwarfs have nothing to do with tolkien warfs except appearence and the habit of living in mountains.
Considering the utter hatred between the two races and the grudges listed in the dammaz kron, would that be possible?

[my favourite edition] is superior to [your favourite edition]
[your favourite edition] is absolute gay shit, and is directly responsible for everything wrong with the game. the [typical army composition] or [your favourite edition] is absolutely worst thing for a wargame
I hope you burn in hell for liking [your favourite edition], or for that matter [any edition besides my favourite edition]

>>52945814
>warhammer dwarfs have nothing to do with tolkien dwarfs
I'll give you that, but there're PJ's dwarfs from the movies, which are much more D&Desque, just like WHFB ones.

also, Tolkien's dwarves have a long history with elves as well, and quite a few grudges.

also
>>52945795

Are there any physical differences between high elves and dark elves?

In art, i see HE always being portrayed as blond or fair haired, while DE are always dark haired. Is this canon as an actual ethnic difference?

>>52945946
high elves are all blonde and have regular skin tone and all look like Legolases. they also can't stand anything chiller than a cool breeze, seeing as they live in eternal summer and wear a ton of clothes and robes.

dark elves are all black-haired and pale with bluish veins showing, and all look like sorceress chick from Warhammer Online cinematic. they also have high tolerance to cold, seeing as they live in frozen north wearing slut costumes.

>>52945946
Nagarithy are and were always majority dark haired and rather pale, while southern and eastern elves were always more light haired and more tanned.

There is no racial difference between them.

I want to start a Dwarf army
should I have them represented by Skaven with greeenstuff beards or Goblins with same?

>>52946164
In the book

>>52945739
It is THE book.

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>>52944136
>>52945739
dug up my 6ed recently aswell. Got nostalgic just by the cover.

Halberd is always a superior weapon, no matter what army, category or tier unit belongs to, provided it has access to halberds.
Only characters can do without halberds because cheating magic items

>>52933009
Handsome bastard, that true elven king

>>52946310
Man 6th ed was the shit

>>52946419
A-fucking-men

>>52946310
>>52944136
This book gives me a raging boner

>>52946310
>>52944136
I took mine to Games Day and got it signed by the Fat Bloke and a lot of the sculptors: Colin Grayson, Brian Nelson, Trish Morrison, Juan Diaz and a couple I can't read/remember.

It was a better time.

>>52946514
Wait until you see his face.

>>52940676
I like this one actually..

>t. oldhammer fag

Where do I find the table for character Doom's in the WFRP2e rulebook?

>>52946709
You don't.

They are in Tome of Salivation

>>52946658
old metal deathmaster snikch was my first mini

>>52946583
it really was.

i never liked how overpowered cavalry was though.

>>52945509
>now that's solid proof
It's proof enough that that they are indeed great sailors, even if the legends may be not true.
>Norse ARE Chaos Marauders. what idiot wrote this text?
No, not all Norse are Chaos Marauders. A lot of tribes are nothing more than our historical type of Norse.
In Marienburg, Norse are high desired sailors.

>>52946894
>peaceful norscans that don't worship chaos
when will this stupid meme stop? it's not that funny

>>52946903
Who let the witchhunter in?

>>52946903
>having factions that aren't one dimensional archetypes is a meme
nice AoS mindset.

>>52946894
>not all Norse are Chaos Marauders
But every Norscan worships chaos one way or another

>>52946963
if it ain't playable, it ain't a faction, it's scenery. scenery's okay being one-dimensional

unless it's Bretonnia. it's only fully playable one-dimensional "faction"

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>>52947020
>I don't like any depth or detail in my setting

and the slippery slope that leads to pic related.

>>52946716
Thanks, was wondering where I saw it before.

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>>52947050
I still can't unsee Doom 1.

>>52947050
well, a careful line must be treaden
a setting must not become like AoS, but obviously such bullshit as "peaceful norscans" must also be avoided

>>52947004
and all gods are Chaos gods, whats your point?

>>52947004
And every magic user uses the chaos winds.
Does that mean every wizard is a chaos sorcerer?

>>52947200
Witch Hunters have been saying it for AGES. Because it's true.

>>52947143
I don't see anything wrong with peaceful Norscans, there are plenty of pieces of lore on Norscans that weren't all hulking mountains of muscle, foaming from their mouths.

>>52947158
AoS pls go

>>52947200
Considering that using Chaos winds, which are basically natural chaos farts, is pretty different from worshipping chaos gods, i don't understand your example

>>52947292
Peaceful Norscans is a thing, not chaos worshipping Norscans is another.Even that tale about a Marienburg merchant doing trade with a Norscan tribe it's implied that those norscans still worship chaos.
Furthermore, it's stated many times in the lore that in summer, some southern norscans tribe sail and trade with Marienburg, Araby and other settlements, but during winter they start raiding kislev or, if called upon by some chaos champion, join their horde without any problem

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>>52947020
Wew lad. You're entitled to your opinion, but in this case I've got to say, your opinion is shit.

what if Chaos was replaced with regular monotheistic/duotheistic devil expy?
and daemons became classical horns & hooves fire & brimstone daemons?

>>52947530
It would be called Dungeons and Dragons.

Is Warhammer Quest any good? Can it be played solo? I want to get more into fantasy but I live in the middle of nowhere.

>>52943894
You would, too.

>>52945750
Not sure if Ulrican, Taalite or something else.

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>>52947722
Amber Wizard.

>>52947143
Peaceful Norse are a thing. The only time when most of them really arm up is when Chaos drives them south.
Which is the reason why they one conquered Nordland and a shitload stayed there and are now imperial citizens.

>>52947386
Yeah them venerating the chaos gods in some way or another is just a natural thing. They life far closer to them than most other people do.
The laws of physics are vague occasionally in Norsca. Only sane to buddy up with those that can pull shit like that.

It's implied however that once Norse settle down further south (like Nordland) they adapt to local beliefs.

>>52947732
Noice. Thought more of a Taal priest because of all the bones, but Amber Wizard is also cool.

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Know why one Empire commander attacked a Sylvanian fort with only a tiny army and got his ass handed to him?
The intelligence told him it was manned by a skeleton crew.

I'm confused. Some sources say High Elves are biggest goods in the universe and are allied with the Empire against Chaos.
Another source says they are pretty much nazis, wreck Empire in bloody war and forbid to worshipping some god - Sigmar, I think, that's the main imperial god, right? - and that causes civil war in the Empire.

Can anyone clarify?

>>52947915
Are you confusing this with Skyrim? How is this possible?

>>52947915
Also some sources said High Elves come from western continent, and middle continent had some super-advanced humans (the Stormcasts, as I understand?), but sunk like Atlantis, while other sources say High Elves actually live on that middle continent, and western continent is where Dark Elves are...

I'm so confused by this lore, how do you people manage it?

Have I fundamentally misunderstood what marks of chaos are? I thought that they aren't literally marks but more like signs that you are blessed by a god, for example mark of Khorne would manifest as massive bloodlust while the mark of nurgle would manifest as diseases, but apparently Archaon's mark is literally just the Chaos Gods' logos on his body.

>>52947950
Yeah, there's a load of inconsistencies. I've seen it mentioned that Bretonnians have elf blood and are expert mages, but also that they don't have mages and all their magic-capable children go missing.

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>>52947950
>>52947915
I think you are confusing Warhammer High Elves with >>52947932 Skyrim. In that case you must be one of the least intelligent people on this board right now.

congrats, I guess.

>>52947986
I know, right?
I'm still confused why in Sigmar's time (he founded the Empire, right?) there were these big golden warriors, and they're nowhere to be found in the modern Empire. And dwarfs had airships and shit, but got brought down to D&D level steampunk for some reason...

My WFRP party have got a long journey ahead from the Empire to Khemri as part of the main plot.

Anyone got any good ideas to make the journey more interesting? Running into villages and such with local problems is a no given, as well as having a foe pursue them on the way, anything else?

Guys, I think he's just baiting.

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>>52948020
Age of Sigmar is not "the Age of Sigmar", or the Horus Heresy for that matter.

>>52948052
the what?
are trying to confuse me even more?

>>52948004
nevermind, I googled "why high elves became bad", and found out they were really good, but after undead and demons attacked them became evil "blood elves", and probably that's why they attacked the Empire and fought dwarfs, after dwarfs killed their king for some super-gemstone, and a dwarf king got his beard shaven off for that.
it makes sense now.

>>52948122
Do you play 40k by any chance?

>>52948139
no, why?

>>52948122
Ok im pretty sure you are baiting but now you are mixing up WoW lore with WHFB lore. Also in WoW the Blood Elves are not evil just no longer working with the humans. Read the fucking WHFB wikia.
Switching directions ive been looking for a certain lizardmen reaction image. IN which the lizard has his tongue out and it says blep. Does anyone have that? I want it

>>52948168
it's friday evening before long weekend and I'm sitting at work with nothing to do. OF COURSE I'm baiting, I'm bored out of my mind!

shame I forgot about lizardmen. I could've tied a few more settings in

>>52948168
Lizardmen? You mean these guys that are connected to some alien sentient plants?

>>52948081
in WHFB there's the Age of Sigmar as part of the past history of the Empire (basically, when Sigmar united the human tribes and founded the Empire)

"Age of Sigmar" is the other setting, we don't talk about that one here

>>52948122
High elves is too generic, just writing "High Elf" in google will bring you a lot of unrelated shit, there's no blood elves here, High Elfs are just arrogant smug cunts in WHFB

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/High_Elves_(Warhammer_Fantasy)

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>>52948168

>>52928934
The culture also changed when they went full Khaine.

>>52928895
They try to love and nurture a slave.

>>52929166
Go jump off a cliff and try to emulate a stormcast. Post pics.

>>52948446
little known fact, they went full Cytharai, not Khaine. Ereth Khial is considered the Queen of the Cytharai, but Khaine is still considered the most powerful Cytharai, and second only to Asuryan, though it's debateable who's the actual strongest between the two(my money is on Khaine)

But different cultures and regions prefer different Cytharai, for example the Corsairs favour Mathlann, who ironically is also the highest Deity of the Sailors of Lothern.

The Elven pantheons are quite fascinating and complicated when you let them, but of course your could always go the easy way out and say they are the elven heroes that survived the destruction of the previoud world, together with the ancestor gods and half baked gods of humanity, and of course all the other countless religions the Warhammer world had.

>>52948188
Yeah, the Lizardmen left the Empire and invaded Naggaroth when the volcanos near the Ashen Coast erupted. They were eventually stopped by House Uthorin.

>>52947829
Can't remember the last time a Taal priest was depicted in any recent lore. Before that, there was the abbot of La Masiontaal, who wore red robes but also had a not!augmented hand.

>>52942351
until the arrival of total warhammer dark omen was usually considered THE warhammer game.

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Wew lad.

>>52940641
Vampires never stay dead.

>>52943328
Amazon or Etsy have a lot of neat blank fantasy journals. Embossed is a good keyword.

Ancient European Embossed Leather Journal Diary (Handmade) with leather strap closure https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GQ2GF0U/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_qI2azbYZJ0TKS

Handmade Large 8" Embossed Leather Journal Celtic two latches blue stone blank personal Diary notebook refillable journal gift https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LW2MX56/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_SJ2azbNF1DWX8

Alternatively, buy a plain leather one then greenstuff sculpt the image of Grimnir using this guide, paint it gold or silver, then glue it on.

https://youtu.be/_WjQF2KeWkw

>>52945547
Why not both?

>>52949349
Last I remember people complaining, it was about the breasts, so I assume that's what you're going wew about. But honestly, they're not a bad size, and dem thighs.

She doesn't have to be a supermodel anyway - she's supposed to be scary, not sexy.

>>52945773
Elves and Dwarfs are both proud and insult others constantly.

That's why they don't usually get along.

An Elf who has humility like Eltharion and a Dwarf who puts logic above emotion like Thorgrim could easily get along. Their men on the other hand...

Kerillian and Bardin are a good example. They trade insults, but still see each other as comrades. They rib each other rather than truly insult.

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>>52949631
My only note is that butt is covered with tabard while models have only panties.

>>52945564

Good advice thanks for that.

> dakka

OUT

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>>52949672
The problem is most Dwarfs can't take a joke unless the punchline is anyone else, and most Elves don't know the difference between a joke and bitchy insults.

So basically Englishmen and Frenchmen. They just need to unite with Naggarothi Dwarfs against the Empire.

>>52948255
that is not it but its cute.
I've spent like 15 minutes now and I can't pull it up with my meager goggle fu. Damn