Age of Sigmar General /aosg/

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First for an in-universe reason why Freeguild stuff has KARL FRANZ written all over it?

>>52915139
The Sigmarite cult has humans venerate the heroes of the World that Was as demigods.

>>52915139
In honor of the man whose body he inhabits, Sigmar named his dick Karl Franz.
The Freeguild fucking love that cock.

Are death fags going to receive something before summer or are they all going on suicide path?

How do I get my saurus to stop bullying my poor skinks? The saurus think they are so much better because they were spawned in a bigger spawning pool but SKINKS RIDE MIGHTY STEGADONS! The saurus keep making my skinks do demeaning tasks like cleaning the temples and oiling the slann why the saurus get to digest in the sun. Skink rights now!

When did we decide to get rid of the warscroll creation site? I came here looking for it and you guys didn't have it in the OP

>custom warscroll maker
http://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/

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My runelord

Runelordess? Runelady?

>>52915139
Sigmar use MAGIC and POOF, our boy Karl was back in the game again with a vengeance

>>52915139
Isnt Sigmar in Karl's body?
Isnt that what happened in end times when he went super sayan?

>>52915275
dat ass yo.

>>52915104
Hey guys quick question, I'm planning on starting AoS with an army of my own making. I want to use a combination of Shadow Warriors from the Swifthawk Agents, but I really dig the Aetherwing models that just came out for the SCE, I was wondering if I could just opt to use those as an addition? Is this possible?

>>52915470
Yes. As long as you keep your whole army within the same grand alliance, in this case those 2 things are in Order, then you can field them

However, this game's strength is about synergy. As in buffing and unit to hero interactions. Those 2 units have none. Watch out for buffs and keywords.

>>52915275
Runelass

>>52915247
Reminder to masturbate before posting

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Are Flesh Eater Courts any good?
We're starting a campaign in my store and I was considering playing them since we have no one playing death armies at the moment.

>>52915590
Ooh i do like that one.

>>52915651
Pure FEC is one of the most competitive ways to run Death at the moment.

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The moss really gives it that jungle vibe, but there's something nice about the simplicity of without it.
What does AoSg think? I've only put moss on my chameleons so I'm wondering if I should do the rest of my army.

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>was planning on going to my local GW and ordering the Queek Headtaker model to use as my Warlord
>see this

Fuck.

>>52915853
>those doodles
*squints*
You wouldnt be a girl, now would you anon?

How does LOS work in AoS. In the rules it seems if you can see it you can shoot it regardless how much you can see. Which means is very hard to have other units block line of sight even when they are standing right in front of it.

Also because of this rule is placing a stegadon or bastilladon on a dense jungle base considered modeling for advantage? As it is, you can see under the big Dino's and shoot under their legs. If I fill that area with small trees and leaves all of a sudden the unit becomes a huge line of sight blocker to hide skin priests behind.

>>52915643
The saurus masturdate and make the skinks clean up the spawning fluids! Saurus are bullies!

>>52915651
Their units and abilities are all good except for Crypt Flayers which are trash. A regenerating horror unit can be hard to get through and ghouls are very self sufficient and hard to deal with when they are regenerating and coming from the board edges.

King on a Terrorgheist has one of the games best spells and is dangerous in combat as a general with red fury and the foot ghoul king spell. No allegiance so no penalty for mixing in units to cover for FEC lack of rend-2 or mortal wounds.

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Moonclan!

>>52915853
TURTLE POWER!

>>52915955
They usually come back within the week.

>>52915959
No, I just think that lizards are cute.

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>wake up
>no death releases

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>>52916017
Good to see a destruction player.
Glory to Gorkamorka!

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>>52916116
Heaven for climate, Hell for company.

>>52915651

Played against them at the weekend and they seem good, bit glass hammer-ish maybe but they hit hard and are pretty fast.

At least the army I fought was like that.

>>52916116

Sad but true

>>52915962
Anyone?

>>52915962
>>52916543
Use common sense.

Ignore base decoration, and if all you can see is like, the tip of a weapon, or a bit of an elbow or something, consider it out of sight.

>>52916543
Yeah that's gaming the base. You couldn't glue a wall onto the front of your spearman bases and claim it blocks los either.

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Necrarch Vampires: best vampires

Hey I was thinking of a storm cast team as allies for my seraphon, was thinking of fluffing them as having been of the amazons before their reforging, any suggestions and tips for how to pull them off in conversions etc?

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our time is coming

>>52917012

>Aelfs

Never ever. Wait for skyavens.

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>>52917012
they aren't prepared

You guys think that the old factions (Gutbusters, gitmob, deathrattle, freeguild, etc.) will eventually get a battletome and new models? or will they be phased out? is it worth starting a Gutbuster army?

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>>52917090
they never are

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>>52917012
>>52917090
>>52917122
Typical samefagging aelfs.

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>>52917207
fuck you autistic faggot go jerk it to your oiled dwarves some more.

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>>52917207
>dwarf shitters
lmaoing at your life

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>>52917375
>>52917429
>Didn't post shit about stunties.

Samefagger what are you doin'.

>>52917375
>>52917429
>literally the same anon

>>52917481
except that is actually two different posters because I didn't post this one >>52917429

fuck you sweaty midget lover

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>>52917429
At least he do not have 2 trisomic kids

>>52917673
at least he >>52917375
is not into gay midget porn

>>52917207
>>52917479
>>52917481
>>52917673

what the fuck is wrong with you assholes all he did was post some nice pictures of some elves.

stop being autistic shit-posting faggots.

>>52917375
Hey, it is the autist who complained about KO not painting their dudes correctly. Why haven't you removed yourself from these threads yet?

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>>52917999
follow the rules in your codex you faggot

>>52915962

It depends on your meta but rule of thumb is that two ranks of normal dudes easily blocks LOS to a same sized guy standing behind and one rank of big ass dudes hides a smaller guy.

So two ranks of liberators leaves no real way to shoot a celestant behind them, same deal if I put him behind a line of dracothian guard

>>52915955
Trench craventail is better..

What is the best way to play Dark Aelves?
I really like the scourge privateers, but there aren't a lot of models, as well as Order Draconis

>>52918054
Ok. I will follow them. I will follow them and my painted army will shit over your grey tide.

Also, the KO are more like a navy than a marine corps.

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>>52918503

>>52918515
>your grey tide
sorry faggot I paint my shit because not only do I like to win, I also like that extra level of feeling superior that comes from looking better while I do it.

>>52918543
awe someone saved that picture I made months ago. I feel special.

long story short that army works great in small games and only if you don't take the Tenebrael Shard because he is not worth 120 points (should be 60 at most). Even then its still shit compared to new releases.

>>52917094
Gutbusters are mentioned in the BCR fluff at least, so they will likely get something sooner or later. Freeguilds are mentioned everywhere, but I have a feeling they will get some (all?) resculpts as well. Deathrattle are getting some new units this year and considering Death has one Battletome I think they will get the second one.
Gitmob on the other hand has old as fuck sculpts and I don't remember the mentioned anywhere in the fluff, so they might end up being ignored. Grot Sky Pirates or something with Spiderfang and/or Moonclan might come in the near future though, considering there was 0 Grot releases so far.

Do Beastmen ever form any kind of familial bonds? Hell, do they even have family units?

I was thinking of fluffing my albino Bray Shaman and my black Beastlord as brothers, I like the contrast and it just seemed like a fun idea. Physically stronger brother protecting weaker, smarter brother.

Thinking about getting into the game finally but I can't decide which army to go with for my first army. Right now it seems to be between Ironjawz and Kharadron.

I like orcs and applying axe to face, but Ironjawz seem pretty damn one dimensional. I also like dwarfs and Kharadron seem to have a lot of neat things going for them. Barak-Mhornar looks nice code wise.

>>52919187
A 30 girl witchelf unit puts out like 60 damage then attacks again. I was wondering if anyone could hold against that at 1000 points then I remembered tree ancient generals can get 2+ rerollable with ignore rend-1 and heal 3 wounds a turn.

>>52919498
Also dear god they die to a stiff breeze with a - Save.

>>52919498
actually those witch elves in that formation if they pile in and attack twice do enough mortal wounds to remove that tree ancient from the table in one round.

But they die to a stiff breeze so its the epitome of a glass cannon army.

>>52919498
Also, they pile in and attack twice in the phase, not twice in a row. Still good, but not crazy

>>52919511
the 5+ invulnerable from the cauldron is something at least. but yeah, glass cannon.

>>52919151
Me too. My army isn't a net list and only decent. But I get a strong sense of pride Fielding it

>>52919616
>a strong sense of pride Fielding it
I hear you man. Couldn't be more with you on this.

I asked this early but not got answer, coming from 40k and im searching for enter in the game with an Army similar to the genestealer cult if there is any

>>52919542
hmm you're right I didn't look at the formation since it broke daughters allegiance and you have to take executioners as tax.

>>52919498
>what is a bow

>>52915104
Any chance of an AoS ttrpg at some point?
The separation of the different realms makes the world feel so unconnected to itself.

>>52919637
Tzeentchian cults are the closer thing to that, lorewise.

>>52919637
for those of us who don't play 40k, what exactly does a genestealer cult army play like?
If 8th edition isn't a complete fucktastrophe I do plan to pick some up for 40k so i'm genuinely curious

>>52919697
Shadows over hammerhal is sort of that for now. Its Warhammer quest with a GM. But I don't think he is going to do an RPG book unless they get another company to do it. Unfortunately they ended their partnership with ffg, which might have done it

>>52919705
>They are coming out the fucking walls!
Basically they can super infiltrate all the time and use that to spawn in surprise reinforcements, but they got like no anti air and their allies are all of convenience

>>52919705
As an avid AoS player who got into the hobby through 40k, then left it because 6e and 7e were complete bullshit, then moved almost completely to AoS... I am excited to look forward to 40k games again rather than avoid them. So far what I see, 8e is going to be great

>>52919669
>what is a bow
breaking the game if the current trend of shooting inflation continues.

>>52919761
It looks like they are doing the AoS treatment a bit more gracefully this time as they aren't nuking the entire setting for it

>>52919759
sounds like flesh eater courts

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>>52915104
Soon

>>52919845
Came to say this. I've never played either but from what I've heard it sounds right.

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SKYVEN WHEN?
Smug beard-things need to be torn from the sky!

>>52919951
You know your faction is shit when faggots only spam the same 3 pics for 15 years in every thread.

>>52920026
If a new battletome mentions Ass Goblins from Mars in one sentence, would you expect GW to make an Ass Goblin from Mars army?

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>>52918543
That's a lot of mortal wounds on paper. But also a lot of buff stacking and hypotheticals that all need to happen perfectly for it to even work.

not to mention a box of 10 witch elves will set you back $50 so not on the user friendly side of the collecting spectrum.

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>>52920075

> TFW too interesting to be part of AoS.

>>52920130
The KO book doesn't actually mention Skyven.
Vetock mentioned Skyven and said they were the KOs number one rivals.
This means there has been Skyven development that's not in the KO book.

GET HYPE

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>>52920136
actually that one didn't have the strength of khaine

This one does, makes it a lot better

>>52920136
Wouldn't it be MW on a 5 *or* a 6, since they get +1 to wound from the Cauldron?

>>52920275
yep see this >>52920249 the whole formation with battleline tax runs in the neighborhood of 1000 points but any unit of 10 witch elves could in theory put out 17 mortal wounds in one combat round and a unit of 20 witch elves could do almost 40 mortal wounds

the executioners churn out mortal wounds on to hit rolls of 55+ and to wound rolls of 5+ if you use the cauldron on them, it gets ugly.

>>52919759
I think they are more like sylvaneth.

>>52919705

Two principal traits:

- High mobility (you can ambush and summon units defeating your enemy with numbers)
-Some armored troops and tanks like Lemans or Goliaths

You can see them as some combination between Imperium and Vampire Counts

>>52920026
>Skygrots get multiple mentions, a few different stories and nemesis status with the Kharadron Overlords in their book
>Skaven are mentioned in a single sentence in the entire book

>To Skavenfags, this means they are the mean enemy of the KO, and therefore THEY will get the opposing release

This is why nobody takes you rats seriously.

^^^^^^
WARNING!

>Aelf faggot detected

>>52920199
Skaven ARE mentioned in the book. in passing.

In the page about Grundstok Thunderers, they are fighting Skaven.

The only consistent enemies in the book at the Grots, and unanmed, presumably demonic monsters.

Vetock is just picking favourites for no fucking reason.

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Is my new Blightking's banner too big?

>>52921522

He did write the last Skaven book - they're one of his favorite armies (along with Dwarfs).

Modelling opinion - with the Arknaut Crew you can build all of the models with axes or swords or obviously a mix. My current list runs about 70 crew - should I try to alternate all ax, all sword or just keep em all mixed.

>>52921634

Negative - looks fantastic to me.

>>52921634
Looks pretty damn cool and the figure in the back seems to think so. Does the banner make the mini too heavy and tip over? If not then your all good to go.

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>>52921634
NEEDS to be more vertical.

How are bloodknights?

>>52921653
One type seems like a more professional army.

>>52921816
cost too many points obv.

>>52921816
not worth £60 a box

>>52921653
I am keeping mine to one type, but I only plan to have 2 units for now, so it is just an easy way for me to tell them apart.

>>52921521
go fuck yourself faggot

>>52921477
Vetock himself, who wrote the book, said Skyven are the main adversaries.

>>52921522
>Skaven ARE mentioned in the book

But not Skyven.

>>52921964
You realise both of your replies shouldn't really be able to exist together in the same argument right?

They both lean towards different directions. The first leaning towards "Skyven are the nemesis", and the second leaning towards "Skyven aren't the nemesis"

>>52922095
Nope. I think Skyven are the nemesis.
That they don't exist in the KO book tells me they exist elsewhere.
Do you see?

>>52922163
Well unless this is next level Skaven sneakiness, you would think their main nemesis would have been involved in any of the Overlords most notable events, yet they aren't.
They don't even have a reason to be their nemesis, since they can tunnel from realm to realm, thus have no need to fly. Both times they are mentioned, they are fighting on the ground.

I mean, at least the fluff in a grotbag scuttler battletome would have some connecting stories.

>>52922419
>Well unless this is next level Skaven sneakiness, you would think their main nemesis would have been involved in any of the Overlords most notable events, yet they aren't.

Exactly, Skyven already have fluff, yet that fluff does not appear where you'd expect to find it currently. There must be a Skyven book in development.

>no need to fly.

They hunt for aether-gold too, they'd need to fly to get it.

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Acceptable Skeleton Warrior proxies when painted appropriately skullishly, or better as grave guard? I just really want something more visually interesting than the bonezone. No offence to my fellow deathfags.

>>52919244
Thanks for the info! I'll go with Gutbusters then.

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>>52922558

>>52922558
Suitably spooky, GW product so you can use their stores, Pretty Nito
I approve. Though GG would be better

>>52916165
Are there really a lack of them?

>>52922658
I don't think LoTR minis are allowed to be fielded with AoS.

>>52919498
An army only consisting of Ungor Raider would probably beat a full Witchelf force to be honest.

>>52923308
in spite of these seemingly impressive numbers >>52920249 the fact that they only have a 5+ invulnerable save means they die very easily to anything. especially anything with a lot of shooting.

>>52922705
Most FLGS don't mind proxies. GW has a policy which demands one of their product to be used for any model, proxy or not, and since they produced the Lotr line, they're also allowed at Gw

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>>52915104
how good is this boxset?

>>52924154
Kind of shit, coming with a named character means you can't buy a few of them and a have a 1000 pt army like with other sc boxes.

It's a great deal if you want Arkhan though, as you're essentially buying him and getting the skellies/skelly cavalry for free.

>>52924343
idk man i just want a shit ton of skeletons

>>52924154
>>52924343
You can build him as any other of the three Mortarchs, of course, although I'd question the wisdom of running all of them at once.

Best value for money Death SC is FEC without a doubt. You get two ghouls, three crypt horrors/flayers, and a ghoul king on a terrorgheist or zombie dragon. Your next one, you build it as a terrorgheist/zombie dragon on its own and have the king on foot. Your next one, build whichever big monster you didn't pick the first two times. And so on.

Or you could exhibit true patrician taste, assemble the crypt flayers as vargheists and put a vampire lord on the dragon.

>>52924364
It's a good one-off purchase if nothing else.

>>52924364
Ah. Well, in that case, your first port of call should probably be eBay. There's shitloads.

>>52924154
15 skellies is NOT a horde

>>52924415
Sorry that's ten ghouls I haven't slept in thirty hours.

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>tfw age of sigmar is finally dead

>>52926817
>>>/v/
>>>/aus/

Would a Seraphon army consisting only of Skinks work out? Kinda like the little buggers but don't care for Toads or Saurus.

>>52927040
But Horde armies suck in AoS.

Which system would work best for an Age of Sigmar RPG? Would WFRP 2e work or would it be too low a power level?

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>>52926817
Say that again motherfucker.

>>52927387
I dono about that system but your not going to be playing as power houses anyway, a stormcast eternal is still a man and can get scared and sick and bleed so is basically everything else in the setting so if its a basic adventuring group i guess itd be fine

>>52927250
Kunnin' Rukk is quite viable. It's not fun to play with or against though.

I am quitting Death. Fuck waiting for new shit.

>>52928027
Sell your shit so I can laugh at you
After you sell new shit comes out the follow month

I am starting AoS and I have some old skaven. Using the stuff I already have here is the list I am thinking of.

1500 pts
Screaming bell
Warlord
Warplock engineer

10 clan rats
10 clan rats
10 clan rats
20 stormvermin
warfire thrower
warfire thrower
poison wind mortar

Warplightning cannon
Doomwheel

Verminus Clawpack.

I am looking at a few different options on what to buy next. Is Thanquol & Boneripper and a verminlord deceiver worth taking? Yes it is 820pts in two models but you can use the vermin lord to skitherleap Thanguol 6" from a target and then do 2d6 mortal wounds to it. From there you can charge and do ever more damage. The next turn the verminlord will be in range or can skitherleap to make a charge.

>>52928043
play a game first and see what does wel.
stormfeinds are better and cheaper to buy than bone ripper.
The vermin lord is good, but the warbringer is good too if you are running storm vermin

>>52928043
Seems like a solid list for casual games. Won't have much of a chance against optimised tournament lists though.

Personally I am a fan of more clanrats. They make really great roadblocks and keep scary things away from your valuable guys.

Might want to think about a Chieftain with Battle Standard to hold your guys together.

If you really need to kill big stuff go for Jezzails.

>>52927250

How about multiple units of 30 Khorne Marauders buffed by Gore Pilgrims? I don't think they suck. 3+ to hit (most of the time) rerolling 1s, 4+ save, 2-3 attacks each. What is it in the game that makes hordes in general so bad?

>>52915350
Karl Franz is assumed to be the Celestant Prime.
The celestant prime fights with Ghal Maraz and GW all but confirmed essentially

>>52928131
But Karl was cool the the Celestant Prime is a faggot :(

>>52928072
What weapons should the stormfiends take? should I use a weapon grinder to get them in the back field?

>>52928131
>Karl Franz is assumed to be the Celestant Prime.

By who?

>GW all but confirmed

When?

So now ogres worship Gorkamorka, do they Waaagh?

>>52929036
Their hunger is enough motivation for killing and eating everything in their path (including each other in case of Gutbusters) so they don't need WAAGH like the puny Greenskins.

>>52927579
>mfw always thought Sigmarines were goofy because of their silly proportions
>mfw this fucker literally has Sigmarine proportions in real life

LIFE IMITATES ART

>>52929300
Stormcast proportions are ok really, Space Marines have always been the silly ones.

>>52929341
It's just the huge pecs that I can't get over, they are quite absurd

>>52929358
I don't think it looks like that beneath the armour.

>>52928131

I would be fine with this but they've always said he was a king from the age of myth, not the world that was.

>>52921634
On mobile so it's hard to tell. What's that banner from? Is it from another kit or is it scratch built? It looks rad though.

>>52915275
Runemaiden.
Orrrr Rune M'lady.

>>52929596
You need to go back.

>>52928131
This is not true. The celestant prime was a king from a great empire before the age of chaos in the mortal realms. Karl Franz died during end times, long long before this

>BCR
>8 model 2k points list
Ah yes

What colour should i paint my Mourngul anons?
I'm thinking base Incubi Darkness > Nuln Oil > Drybrush with Grey and then wash again with Blue

>>52929983

Give him a Etheral paint, Ghost Mourngul best Mourngul

>>52929949

>during the end times

No he didn't, read the book

>>52930252
Isn't it actaully a monster, rather than a ghost?
All my Nighthaunt units are already painted like ghosts

>>52930365
it's got the nighthaunt keyword so it'd probably fit.

I'd go for a really pale skintone blending out to a black frostbitten look for the hands, really play up the wendigo angle it's got going on.

>>52930417
>Haunter of the Dark - Mourngul are spectral creatures, made more of shadow and icy fogs than physical substance.
Hmm might have to for a thinned Incubi, with darkers claws for frostbite

ty anon

>>52930338
Another anon here.

Karl died and his exited his body. Sigmar's soul then possessed Karl body alongside the winds of Azyr.

>>52916017
I'll be honestly surprised if they make a release for them in shadespire. Would be enjoyable though.

>>52930505

Its been a while since I read Glotkin but as I recall Karl was hit by Azyr after he had lost his arm but right before Otto was about to execute him, so he wasn't actually dead yet


I'm sure the novel did everything different

>>52929976
Shit tier list
You can literally never get a major victory on Take and Hold

>>52930805
*double snowballs your hero turn one*
psssh nothin personnel kid

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>>52918434
>Tretch 'Literally who' Faggottail
>Better than motherfucking Queek in any way

>>52929693
That banner is from the Orruk Warboss.

>>52922558

Would be fine but bear in mind that LotR is a smaller scale. They'll look noticeable smaller than the rest of your stuff.

>>52930663
Different anon, Karl Franz died when Otto glott ran him through with his own runefang. They specifically mention him dying before Azyr slams into him and sigmar takes over his body. They also reveal this in the last book.

In the novel "Fall of Altdorf" they make it seem as if instead of just sigmar coming back, Karl Franz and the souls of all the past imperial heroes including sigmar combined into a god emperor of mankind. "Lord of the end times" confirms it was sigmar all along

>>52930663
That's what you think for most of it, but later on (I think when they're in Athel Loren) he explains that Karl Franz died the instant he smashed into the fountain when Gurk hit him. Then the lightning came down and it was Sigmar from then onwards.

>>52931459
>>52931432


I see, well I like to think hopefully Sigmar hooked up Karlie G up in the afterlife. It'd be nice if he made him into celestant prime

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>>52929155
Personally I think Ogors embody the brutal and ruthless nature of Gork, while Grots are sneaky and kunnin' embodying Mork. While Orruks embody both at the same time.

>>52928172
warpfire projectors
not needed but you can.

>>52931826
Beastclaw Ogors don't fit into that theory. They are quite cunning with all the Hunters, and more organized than vanilla Ogors (no infightings and eating the loser, no cannibalism amongst themselves).

>>52928131
Sigmar himself is Karl Franz.

>Finished my Mourngul
>Ended up with a standard scheme
Oh well, i can always paint the 2nd one more ghostlike

Just gotta finish the horse + base tomorrow and i'll post it here for review

>>52931992
>Beastclaw Ogors don't fit into that theory.

Gorkerz

>Mournfang
>Stonehorns
>Frostlords

Morkerz

>Yhettee
>Hunters/Sabercats
>Thundertusks

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I like it when the red water comes out

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>>52920249
tfw your 10 suicidal blood elves just did 17 mortal wounds in 1 combat round. And you still have another 2 units of witch elves and executioners to pile in with.

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>>52927579
Post the rest! This guy is a fucking hero. Map props to him

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>>52933561

>>52927387
There was that Savage Realms AoS RPG some guy did. It's a little light on the RP elements, but it could be fun for a simple brawler thing.

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>>52933580
dat shield do

>>52933580
his face when you didn't paint your blimps correctly

>>52927579
>>52933561
>>52933580
>>52933603
This nigga!

>>52921766
>DonaldTrumpSayingWrong.gif

>>52927579
Cool.

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>>52933603

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>>52933773

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>>52933787

Why is Death so fucking shit? What went wrong, bros?

I fucking hate waiting and waiting and get fucking shit in return.

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>>52933860
vampires when

I will also accept dark elves

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>>52927579
>>52933561
>>52933580
>>52933603
>>52933773
>>52933787
>>52933801

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>>52933860
Reminder that sigmarines are rightfully grand alliance death

>>52933860
This.
Why was our first battletome FEC? Who gives a SHIT about ghouls over skeletons, ghosts, or vampires? Like what the actual fuck
DEATH RELEASE NOW
REEEEEEEEEEE

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>>52933923
My nigga
>tfw mixing vampire and dark elf kits and painting similar to pic related to make counts as either units

>>52933961
Seraphon are pretty much all dead too.
I'd rather be Death for that 6+ save.

>>52933923
>vampires when
>I will also accept dark elves
W-what if... the make Vampire elves?!
Or at least make the shadow elves/Daughters of Khaine vampiric like.

>Want to pull the trigger on buying Dark Elf models
>Supposedly some sort of Aelves being released soonTM

Stuck in limbo

>>52934294
I know this very feel
Keep thinking what if the new elf sculpts are amazing and completely shit on the old ones. Cant pull the trigger but getting very annoyed at waiting

>>52934294
>>52934431
Just gotta wait for leaked images bros If you all like or dislike what you seen then you can make your decision.

>>52931421
Someone did a side by side a while ago and they were actually about the same size as normal skellies if I remember.

>>52934487
>>52934431

I know, I'm hoping they're within the next week or so since that's when my finals will be ending. Sitting around studying has given me too much time to look into the older models and I'm just getting antsy.

>>52934294
Buy enough for a small force, maybe 1000. Gives you plenty to model/paint, and then when the new stuff comes out you can have a mix of old and new.

>>52934550
Same, I wanted to try and start a Daughters of Khaine army but if the new models for the elves look great then I'm hoping to do some cool conversions.

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>>52931421
>>52934541
Pic related

>>52934068
>Daughters of Khaine vampiric like
they literally bath in blood to remain youthful already and cruise around with a giant cauldron of blood. >>52917375 this pic related

>>52934698
True, they just lack the fangs and a big ass Elvish Coven Throne.
In fact, a conversion of the Coven Throne into an alter of Khaine would be pretty cool.

>>52933860
>>52934431

Wait for death related cultist aelfs, bros, our time is coming soon.

Got mahself a Stardrake. Cant wait to nom nom some baddies.

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>>52935066

They're nice in person, I was skeptical of them until I actually built and painted mine.

He's probably a bit overcosted but he's such a fun distraction carnifex that I have never regretted taking him.

All it took was bouncing 15 blood knights off of him with only a castellant buff before I was in love.

Pic related, not the best paint job or photo in the world but I like him

Allegiance: Death
Vampire Lord On Zombie Dragon (440)
- General
- Deathlance & Shield & Chalice
- Trait: Red Fury
- Artefact: Cloak of Mists and Shadows
Abhorrant Ghoul King on Terrorgheist (400)
- Artefact: Cursed Book
Crypt Ghast Courtier (80)
Crypt Infernal Courtier (140)
Necromancer (120)
9 x Crypt Horrors (420)
10 x Crypt Ghouls (100)
10 x Crypt Ghouls (100)
10 x Crypt Ghouls (100)
Ghoul Patrol (100)
Total: 2000/2000

How does this look, building a viable death list without tk is daunting.

>>52935230
Looks good to me Anon! I like the firey theme. Im doing more dirty/grungy for mine.

>>52934068
>vampiric dark elves
all the edgy fags will cum in their pants

Since it's canonically possible for many races to become Stormcast Eternals, and for Chaos-taint to be wiped away by Sigmar's blessing, is it theoretically possible for a Skaven to become a Stormcast Eternal?

>>52936094
There has never been any mention of a non-human stormcast eternal ever in any of the fluff. All we have is a WD author saying 'maybe', but we have not seen any indications of it.

>>52922644
>tfw when you wake up and there is no new death battletome

>>52936128
The Stormcast BT says humans only

>>52936021
fuck off autistic shit-poster

How does the fluff of my dudes Sunz of Gork (or maybe Mork) made up of red savage orruks and blue savage orruks who often in-fight over which god represents their chosen idol, the sun, and which represents their weaker idol, the moon sound?

>>52936021
umm sweetie... edgy neckbeards play chaos, us /fa/ggots play dark elves

Can Skyven beat Ironjawz since the current Skaven can't?

>>52936823

Keep waiting till end of times ratfag

>>52937091
>Keep waiting till end of times ratfag
fuck off autistic shit-poster

Allegiance: Death
Vampire Lord On Abyssal Terror (300)
- Deathlance & Shield
Vampire Lord (140)
- Mount: Flying Horror
Abhorrant Ghoul King on Zombie Dragon (400)
- General
- Trait: Red Fury
- Artefact: Cloak of Mists and Shadows
Abhorrant Ghoul King (100)
Necromancer (120)
9 x Crypt Horrors (420)
20 x Zombies (120)
10 x Zombies (60)
10 x Zombies (60)
1 x Corpse Cart (80)
Mortis Engine (180)
Total: 1980/2000

You buff the Zombie Dragon with all 5 spell casters with +2 to their rolls on turn 1. He can now fly 40" and charge, has mystic shield, +2 to all his attacks, and rerolls failed wounds. If he gets in and doesn't die from retaliation he's almost assured to attack again because he averages 20 damage and has Red Fury.

The next turn you can buff your Crypt Horrors to have Van Hels, double move, and 5 attacks each.

>>52917012
Aelf fags suck
That is a cool pic though

>>52917673
Damn it I missed that?!?!
Fuck you life

>>52919151
This nigga gets it.
If your army is fully painted and based and the other isn't, you have already won. Crushing them in game is just icing on the cake

>>52928027
Burn all your shit painted models in some cringey YouTube video!

>>52934555
Do we know if the new Aelves will still be Order? Despite them being shadow or edgelords or "chthulu pirates" or something?

>>52934431
But the current Dark elf models are still pretty awesome.
The corsairs, new cold one knights and chariots, the kharydbis, the witch elves... they all look good.

>>52935230
Drake looks great anon. Can't really tell about the rider

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>>52937616
in the fluff Malarion (leader of the shadow elves and incarnate of shadow) is part of the alliance of incarnates (sigmar, alarielle, Tyrion/Teclis, Malarion, others who don't matter) who work together to defeat chaos. It doesn't make sense to me that either the elves from the realm of light under Tyrion/Teclis or the elves from the realm of shadow under Malarion would suddenly decide to switch teams.

non plant zombie alarielle is best alarielle

>>52937785
Oh okay, thanks. I haven't read a ton of the fluff, I just love the formerly Dark Elf models, be they Order Serpentis, Scourge Privateers, and Darkling Covens. So I'd like to have some of those and if possible the new Aelves when they're released.

How do I convince my friend that rats are gay?

>>52937884
dress up as a rat and offer to have really gay sex with him.
Only way

>>52937884
>How do I convince my friend that rats are gay?
Get two male rats to hump each other.

>>52937884
suck his cock

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>>52937884
you will fail

>>52937884
>>52937946
>>52937950
>>52937952
/aosg/ setting the /tg/ standard as usual

>>52933580
>when you see an unpainted army

>>52937178
Fun, but there's a few holes. Target saturation will be a problem, as will a well made shooting list or something that can shut down magic. I predict most matches would start strong but then slowly turn sour as your opponent brings more units to bear and takes out key units.

>>52938467
I confused the vampire buff as his spell instead of command ability. So the whole list is just weaker however you rebalance it.

>well made shooting list
Is a better way to deal with shooters than a 40" fly beatstick general? If that wouldn't work than death is probably just weak period.

>>52939247
Not using your general on suicide missions into enemy lines?

>>52939430
If you're fighting Tzaangors someone has to go after them.
Allegiance: Death
Vampire Lord On Abyssal Terror (300)
- Deathlance & Shield
Vampire Lord (140)
- General
- Trait: Ruler of the Night
- Artefact: Cursed Book
Abhorrant Ghoul King on Terrorgheist (400)
Abhorrant Ghoul King (100)
Necromancer (120)
6 x Crypt Flayers (320)
6 x Crypt Horrors (280)
20 x Zombies (120)
10 x Zombies (60)
10 x Zombies (60)
1 x Corpse Cart (80)
Total: 1980/2000

This one would send in Flayers after them instead with Van Hels, Mystic Shield, +2 attacks, and Unholy Vitality.

>>52933773
>>52933787
>>52933801
Age of Nigmar

>>52939644
>Vampire Lord On Abyssal Terror (300)
Can this model be made using the Arkhan from this box set?>>52924154

>>52941644
The dread abyssal can be the base for a conversion.

>>52941870
is there actually a model for the vampire lord on abyssal terror?

Also why don't we see more vampire lords on abyssal terrors with vampires on zombie dragons? Have the zombie dragon cast mystic shield on itself for a 2+ save and then use the abyssal terror to double its move to 28" with red fury and the artifact that regains wounds the zombie dragon should tear through most units.

>>52941974
There's a model but its really old and shitty and not sold anymore.

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So has anyone done an Arabian themed Stormcast army?

Would it be wrong if I painted the Stormcast skin blue?

Bought a Lord of Change today, how should I build it? Was thinking a Rod of Sorcery.

Not going to build it as Kairos.

Is there new skelton stuff yet

Im not playing aos until there are enough skeletons to overtake the world

I need some help with a pretty basic question. Me and my friends are just now getting into AoS. I grabbed a start collecting seraphon box and my buddy got rattlebones. However I seem to be lacking the build instructions for the saurus warriors. Is this a normal thing? If it's not how do I go about getting my hands on them?

>>52942484
Only if you don't paint any gryph hounds you have like tigers.

>>52942554
Rod is the best normal weapon option he has I feel. Don't really want him in melee

So, what is the verdict on Spawn in a Khorne army, Azyr app lets take them with an automatic MoK but the scroll does not have Khorne keyword.

60 pts shy on my 1k list and only models I have that fit that slot are the spawn. Plus, it's something the priest can milk tithe from.

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>>52931116
Command ability with verminus clawpack > dwarf slayer

>>52943847
You can use the compendium version which has the ability to choose mark at the start of battle.

>>52943847
..curse of the dark gods

>can't decide which alliance I want to join and swear loyalty to
>roll a die
>get Death

>realize later I got fucked over with the worst alliance ever
Fuck GW

>>52944203
Why didn't you just use your saving roll like the rest of us?
>TFW I still got death.

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>>52944203
>Start with Chaos
>Feel pretty good about sticking with it for a while, despite my bad habit of switching armies frequently
>Sudden, buddy of mind gives me all his Stormcasts because he wants to do something different
>New campaign starts in the store and everyone is doing new armies
>Really drawn to Flesh Eater Courts for some reason
>Now I have armies in 3/4 of the grand alliances despite promising myself I'd stick to one thing this year
I hate myself sometimes.

>>52944367
I feel the draw of the courts too, believe me. Regardless, you did get the stormcasts free, so no biggie!

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>>52944203
>>52944367
JUST started A Chaos Tzeentch army, ball is rolling pretty well. Having fun.

Now I'm getting really strong urges to do a Spooky Bones themed army, even tho every one here says Death is shit.

Should Savage Orruks run spears or swords?

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>lovingly build Freeguild army using spearmen blocks, handgunners, and outriders, 17thc army w/ Empire aestheticsss

>play mostly unpainted Stormcast extremis chamber player

>cannons, handgunners lines (2x 40) devastate his angels while they get bogged down trying to break the pike line supported by a freeguild general, he took the bait and wanted to butcher shitty human units

>Cannons kill his Lord celestant turn 2

>lose 27 men the entire game because his entire army is melee, outriders easily take objectives

>crushing defeat for him, he usually wins

>he goes around telling the entire store that I'm a WAAC faggot with a netbuild army


Why can't a cool army just be a cool army, its not like I took random order shit to minmax?

>>52945113
Sound like your opponent is a butthurt Autist; ignore them Anon.

>>52945113
Most people don't know how to effectively design an army, they just throw shit together and expect it to work.

>>52939247
>Is a better way to deal with shooters than a 40" fly beatstick general?

Well, no, but as >>52939430 said he'll be charging off unsupported into a 2000 point army. You'd definitely do some damage, but your guy will take some in return and possibly die outright. That'd be a big hit to your army.

>>52945113
This sounds like it isnt true but if it is just dont play retards like that again. Hell, if I play your unpainted army one week and the next time you come into play you still havent painted more of it I will refuse to play them. People that just ignore the hobby side are generally waac fags or retards and not worth interacting with.

>>52945113
Call his shit out to his face.
You beat his dragons bullshit with pleb tier army. Kudos

Going to get my first few models tomorrow, been reading the rules for the time being. Got a few questions regarding Wanderer.

As far as Generals go, who is more useful, the Nomad Prince giving rerolls of 1 to everyone within 8" or the Waywatcher giving everyone in 18" Invisible Hunter?

Is it cool if I build my own discontinues models? Like taking a Black Dragon and converting it into a Forest Dragon with rider? Same for the LotR Hawks to get Hawkrider?

Speaking of Hawkrider, if a Spellweaver uses her Signature spell on them, do I get 1d3 rider with full wounds? And lastly, how does the Forest Dragon passive aura intertact with the Quicksliver potion?

>>52944978
Pretty much the same as any unit with those options. Swords for small units, spears for large ones.

>>52944367
I've bought every start collecting box so far, and just pick up whatever models I like the look of.

Allegiance: Khorne
Mighty Lord Of Khorne (140)
- General
- Trait: Berzerker Lord
Bloodsecrator (120)
- Banner of Khorne: Banner of Rage
Bloodsecrator (120)
Slaughterpriest (100)
- Bloodbathed Axe
- Blood Blessing: Bronzed Flesh
Aspiring Deathbringer (80)
- Bloodaxe and Wrath Hammer
- Artefact: Mark of the Destroyer
Bloodstoker (80)
5 x Blood Warriors (100)
5 x Blood Warriors (100)
5 x Blood Warriors (100)
10 x Bloodreavers (70)
10 x Bloodreavers (70)
10 x Bloodreavers (70)
10 x Bloodreavers (70)
10 x Bloodreavers (70)
5 x Skullreapers (140)
1 x Khorgoraths (100)
1 x Khorgoraths (100)
Bloodbound Warband (120)
Dark Feast (100)

Total: 1850

Complete noob, looking for some advice on a minimalist Khorne Bloodbound list I'm throwing together from two Starter Boxes and a few other things. General idea is buffing units because, you know, Khorne. Also looking at negating battleshock because Reavers are little bitches.

I've heard good things about using Khorne Bloodbound and Bloodletters + Bloodthirsters, should I look at a Daemons of Khorne SC?

>>52945882
You can run your reavers in a large block and just give them inspiring presence from your general.

People run bloodletters because you have to be able to deal mortal wounds against competitive armies or you just get brick walled by dudes with 2+ or 3+ saves with rerolls, and they are an extremely efficient low investment source for them that other armies would kill for.

Bloodthirsters are a lazy way to get flying power projection units with decent saves and high damage and they get good when you stack a damage trait and gift together.

>>52945113
>mostly unpainted
At this point you have the full right to ignore whatever this faggot says, laugh and spit him in the face. Nonpainters are worse than gay worms.

>>52945339
I assure you it happened. We even have little 'player review' cards that you can submit anonymously and 'someone' filled one out the next day saying compendium armies are overpowered and should not be allowed. Wew lad

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>>52946081
>'someone' filled one out the next day saying compendium armies are overpowered and should not be allowed

>>52945113
Well I am curious, post pictures of your army! 1th century freeguild sound oretty neat.

>>52946031
The only units he had painted were his Dracoth (the rider was still basecoated) and one fulminator + a few prosecutors had 3 colours. The rest was dark grey plastic.

He charged directly towards a block of 30 freeguild spearmen with his fulminators and prosecutors who were being overwatched by 80 handgunners. 80 stand-and-shoot 2+/3+/-1 shots after his charge, kek. To be fair he basically wiped the spearmen, but lost all of his fast movers. The liberators and dracoth just got pummeled with cannons and cleaned up with handgunner fire while my outriders hugged the objective.

>>52946021
I was mostly running them smaller because I was worrying about the big blob being able to get the full swing of attacks.
The other benefit is with the extra formations for benefits (more attacks from Dark Feast, more attacks and wound rerolls from the warband.) and more artefacts, of which I think I forgot one, better add that in.
I don't think I actually have many mortal wounds in this army besides the Priest and Skullreapers (Gonna run them with Daemonblades because of both the Bloodstoker and the formation bonus) so I might have to look at some Bloodletters, there's a guy at the store I go to who runs like a Stardrake with a dude on it and a Hero unit that lets him reroll saves or something??
Thanks!

What are some good alternate heads for Sigmarines? I can't stand the whole grim-faced metal mask thing.

>>52946173
I have no idea why you are gloating about this so much. You were clearly playing against someone who has no idea how to handle your list, and by the sounds of it, is a lot younger than you.

>Why can't a cool army just be a cool army, its not like I took random order shit to minmax?

Do you really not get why people are upset about this? It doesn't matter if you percieve your army to be cool if the rules are considered "broken" they are not, dismanteling such an empire list is pretty easy, all things considered.

Just have a bit of empathy, man.

>>52946236
Wasn't gloating, was just doing a quick and dirty batrep? The guy spread rumours about me around the shop and that shitted me off which made me a lot less empathetic. As I said before he's used to winning.


Also he was late 20s minimum with a giant beard, haha.

Any theory / experience on the dread wood sylvaneth battalion? Dropping 4 units of spite revenant and maybe drycha 6" from the enemy before blowing them up with bees and bravery mortal wounds seems fun at the least, with a low point cost (820).

>>52946236
>hurr kids have the right to play unpainted shit
No they don't. I started when I was 15 and I painted all of my miniatures the best I could, and no one has any excuse not to do the same.

For the blood warriors goreglaive is it 1 in every 10 rounding up or just a flat 1 in every 10?

Can a unit of 15 blood warriors have 1 or 2 goreglaives?

>>52946317
I never mentioned the painting thing at all, what are you on about?

>>52946215
I'd tell you my secret plan. But then I'd have to kill you.

Use whatever the fuck you want to.

Get som beaky heads. Variety of specmarine heads across the board, picking based on what units they're from/going on. Go a captains with plumage and all that for your unit leaders.

Or necron heads.

They are undying suits of armour after all!

>>52946321
One for every ten, so 15 get 1

>>52946317
It was the main point of the guy you're arguing with. and I've seen this argument time and again.
>kids should be allowed not to paint to get more people into the hobby
You're getting people into the hobby who should stay away from the hobby. Don't like painting? Goodbye, go play chess.

Some tips for a succesful Flesh Eater Court list? Im facing the typical tzeentch and aetherstrike list and probably new dwarfs so i want to make death Great agaln

>>52946357
>Don't like painting? Goodbye, go play chess.

True. Then again you get people who have less than 10 colours on their miniatures, or those fucks who only use base colours, wash and just one highlight. Not to mention people who have lazy bases.

If you don't maintain a certain painting standart you should also leave imo.

>>52946173
>fulminators
Bleh, this is literally supposed to be what they're for. A simple lantern buff would have given them 2+ reroll, 80 shots would turn into a single scored hit.

>>52946340

Cool, thats what I thought just wanted to be sure I wasn't missing out.

>>52945490
> Nomad Prince or waywatcher?
Waywatcher seems to be able to deal more damage, but PURELY on command ability, Nomad. Plus 1 to hit is better than minus 1 to be hit in shooting only.
> use old models?
Sure why not. Just paint them up nice
> spell weaver's spell
RAW, you get D3 many slain models back. So yeah, D3 hawk riders back on full wounds.

>>52946281
He sounds like a fucking land whale

>>52946387
There is a difference between "no skill but at least tried" and "didn't even bother to try".
The latter group can get fucked. The first one can always get better, if they are at least willing to try and given instruction.

So after hating AoS for what it was on release, I've decided to try out the game again with my Tomb Kings army. I only have the old warscrolls, and have no idea where to find the point costs of say, a Casket of souls and such.

Where do I find them?

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Can someone explain to me why Sisters of the Watch are 240 points? Is there any synergy I don't see within Order? Because just as a Warscroll they are not worth 240 points as far as I can tell.

>>52946526
General's Handbook has all the points costs for everything under the 'Compendium Pitched Battle Profiles' bit.

>>52946526
wish you burned your army.
typical neckbeard to ragequit then come around after because you have no willpower.

>>52946652
>Implying AoS on release, which the guy clearly stated, was not a dumpster-fire

>>52946561
women cost more. as in real life

>>52946666
it was still gud on release.

>>52946677
no, you are wrong.

>>52946689
Get in a time machine, go back and see how much fun my group and I had when we were playing at release.
You are wrong. Just because you are resistant to change like a typical TT player doesn't mean everyone else is.
I think it was BETTER with no limits on behemoths etc, it didn't imbalance the game if you played with friends, and having an all giant army (for example) was cool as hell.

>>52931832
From what I heard people have just said you can build them how you like but say they are equipt with the weapons you want. Is this right?

>>52946706
>Neckbeards can't handle different opinions
>He said whilst unable to handle different opinions

kek

How buttflustered are you that open play is dead and the GHB single handedly saved AoS? like on a scale of 1-10

>Casket of souls is a leader.

Why?

Reminder that people who "dont care for the hobby side" need to be shunned from the community. Stick to video games then faggot

>>52947082
Tabletop sim exists for this reason .ideally the unpaintedarmy carcinoma would stay there instead of metastasizing into flgs

ITT: Borderline retarded niggers who claim that you absolutely need to paint your shit. Not caring about the hobby side is completely fine, collecting stuff just for the sake of collecting things is autism, and if people only care about playing the game and not about painting, that's fine too.
And this comes from someone who owns the entire range of citadel paints.

>>52947529
t. Certified retard

>>52946173

To be fair fulminators with a 1+ rerollable save are essentially THE melee hard counter to handgunner blobs, doesn't sound like he did it right though.

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>>52945113

>cannon kills lord celestant on turn 2

>he doesn't give his gigantic distraction carnifex dragon a mirror shield

>apparently doesn't have a castellant in the armor skew wing of stormcast

>ran prosecutors instead of something useful

>apparently wasn't dropping comets on cannon crew

I'm not saying your list was bad or anything but that game was his to lose with extremis. That should emphasize what a shitter he is

>>52946561
There is no justification for them being 240 points. As with all Aelves units they are over costed. Best you can hope for is better balance in GHB 2.0

>>52945113

Post pics of army

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>>52946561
if you go compendium then this is an option. Still doesn't make them worth 240 points but it does create a shooting bunker for your loremaster and alarielle on foot to hide in while they buff the everliving shit out of your dragons eating everything on the other guys side of the table.

>>52946387
I disagree, I can tolerate a badly painted army every now and then. A person who doesn't paint his miniatures at all simply has no respect for the other players. Why should we humour them by playing with them?

>>52948453
For me its about the effort they put in. I respect when people actually try, to the best of what their ability and time permits. A kid who's SC army is painted but looks like shit cause he isn't good at painting and has college to focus on is something I completely respect.

He tried, and at least he tried, because a lot of shit heads won't even try.

Nieuwe draad: >>52949148

>>52943112
Anyone gonna help me out with this or am I Shit out of luck?

>>52946215

I've used some of the Empire heads without hats. Bandanna guy is a good one, or anything that's not necessarily the "shitty peasant" look. On my Lord Relictor I used an old Skeleton head instead, as my fluff for him was he was an old Necromamcer for my Freeguild, that got reforged. If you're looking for helmets instead, I could see some of the Grey Knight helms going well, and I know the Brettonian Knights all work well.