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Pathfinder General /pfg/

Does your character have any servants? Followers? Cohorts? Animal companions? Eidolons? Tell us all about them!

Unified /pfg/ link repository: http://pastebin.com/hAfKSnWW

Current Playtests: https://pastebin.com/quSzkadj

Old Thread: >>52892080
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Anyone with experience playing a spheres blaster want to weight in on what worked? What didn't? Was it worth it?
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>>52898295
They've got a maid
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What archetypes give unarmed damage progression?

I know Enlightened Paladin gets half and an Oracle of astetics can get full. Does anyone else?
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Crown of Fangs' miniatures are looking dope as fuck.
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>>52898295
Hey, can you stop being a piece of shit already? The fuck is wrong with you.
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>>52898295
He has: Maids, a butler, a bunch of personal cooks, employees, followers, hirelings, a cohort (who has an animal companion) and a pet dog named Abadar.
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>Heart of Magic
>Magic is suffused through your entire body, and using it is as natural to you as breathing.
>Prerequisite: Dragon type or aether breath selected at least once..
>Benefit: You can use your Constitution instead of your Charisma for your avowed class features except for aether pulse shapes, such as clause DCs and pact abilities, pact abilities, as well as any other avowed class features and feats on the avowed bonus feat list that refer to Charisma (such as using your Constitution in place of your Dexterity modifier to qualify for feats with Two-Weapon Fighting as a prerequisite, if you have the Aether Duelist feat).

What does this mean? This has confusing wording to me. When is Charisma used for aether pulse shapes?
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>>52898393
It means Avowed is shit
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>>52898336
Sacred Fist does as well.
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>>52898336
Order of the Hammer
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>>52898393
It is used for area-of-effect shapes, such as Aether Blast or Aether Breath (the Fireball and Dragonfire analogues); for each instance of the shape you have, you add 1/2 your Charisma modifier to the damage. This is to account for the fact that you might be dealing halved or no damage due to the target making a Reflex save. The other half of the "Dragonfire Adept Rip-Off" build (AKA the other feat in that pair that moves all the Avowed stuff to Charisma) allows you to add that extra damage based on your CON instead.
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>>52898393
Reflex saves for explosions and /aether circus/, Will saves for /aether well/, damage for /aether rampage III/, Charisma bonus for Area Shapes.
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>>52898487
So if I take both I don't need cha for anything?
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>>52898495
Correct. With both feats, you completely go from CHA to CON as an Avowed.
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>>52898469
Isn't their unarmed damage bonus only for doing nonlethal damage?
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>>52898290
see attached
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>>52898519
That includes the DCs for modulations?
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>>52898519
Those two feats should not exist IMO

Kineticist needs niche protection
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>>52898526
You still get full damage-progression, just non-lethal. Sure, it's not as good, but it's still Unarmed Damage Progression. You could always take Improved Unarmed Strike to have it deal lethal damage, too.
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>>52898543
>Spending two of my limited feats in order to replicate a 3.5 class is brooooooken
>When I could also spend two feats to move everything to CHA

Really, this is what people don't get. If you spend two feats to get Altered Life and Unnatural Resilience, you're now allowed to run all your things off of CHA. Alternatively, with two other feats, you run everything off of CON. If you don't spend any feats, then you're more MAD but get to keep two feats. What is people's problems with this, honestly?
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>>52898563
I think it has a provision in there that if you take Improved Unarmed Strike, the damage progression still only applies to doing nonlethal damage. Not to say that it's not good.

>>52898576
I've found all my D20 games to be more fun for everyone when everyone, Players, NPCs and Monsters alike, all gain a feat per level instead of per three levels.
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>tried to impress the quartermaster in Skulls and Shackles into giving me my gear back by flowing fire in the hold
>rrreeeeeee follows
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>>52898543
Shut up Rory we know you're bitter that there's now a direct competitor to the Kineticist to reinforce the fact it's shit
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So there is an initiating kineticist, right? How is it? Where can I find it?
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>>52898620
My current DM runs a houserule where X times per level you can burn XP to get a stacking % chance to get things like skills and feats each level.
Example: 50x[attribute score] experience to get a %roll to get a +1 to that permanently, like the 4th level increase, and you can do this three times per level with one increase per attribute per level.
Say you rolled a 70 and a 40, you get a +1 to what you were trying, and get another roll for another stat. You keep any overflow for progress here, so next level you get a starting 10% to that first stat.
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>>52898947
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/occult-adventures/occult-classes/kineticist/archetypes/dreamscarred-press-kineticist-archetypes/roil-dancer/
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How did your characters learn to do the things they're good at, /pfg/? Did they have someone to teach them? Did they learn via a special training method?
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>>52898620
Feats are every odd level
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>>52898919
Anon, ignore him. It's ALWAYS a falseflag when this comes up. Everyone on /pfg/ loves the Avowed... right?

Right?
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>>52899025
go on Discord and tell Rory that avowed his awesome

watch him react like you kicked his dog and fling personal insults at you
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>>52898295
Technology focused tiefling rogue in an Iron Gods game. Might end up with a robot pal eventually? Also the DM just realized Val is suppposed to be a kid after all the fluff about being a potential rival, cohort or replacement PC
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>>52899025
I like it
But I also like the Kineticist (even without 3pp, I find it enjoyable)
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>>52899004
Point being, I just remember seeing the Feat per Level thing in some old Monte Cook book and liking the idea. For a campaign where damn near everyone is a martial artist, having piles of feats means more variety in encounters since there are far fewer monsters cropping up.
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>>52898295
Servants? Not a one.
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>>52899025
Eh it's k, I'm still waiting on the damn thing to finally be released though.
also for the full BAB archetype.
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>>52899169
Kineticist with all 3pp allowed is more fun than Avowed, to be honest. WAY more variety
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>>52899259
>Class that's been out for years with assloads of archetypes and support from multiple publishers
>more variety than something that's not even officially out of playtest yet
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Is there a good archetype for an Unarmed Paladin? I don't want Monk, just Paladin.
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>>52899292
Have you tried actually looking, or are you disappointed in the archetype that's already there?
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>>52899274
It is true, though.
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>>52899313
yea but it's like complaining that modern DOOM has fewer mods than the original DOOM.
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>>52899310
>that's already there
I thought I was thorough, but clearly I'm just retarded.
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>>52899200
Feat every level doesn't solve a lot of things, but it's probably at least enjoyable.
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So in the game I may running it's looking very likely that the party will be taking one r more gnolls as captives during the next session.

They've infiltrated a ruined keep where 5 gnolls have been hired to guard and are most likely to run into their leader first who is currently lazing about in the dungeon as they came in through the roof.

The leader is a coward and will bargain for his life if the fight isn't going his way but beyond that I'm not sure how he would react should the party then come across some of his remaining troops.

The pack is everything to the average Gnoll and I imagine even a CE creature has some compassion for his fellow kin that would push him to aid them in battle. If not how is being seperate from the pact likely to effect one?
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Anybody got a .pdf of Legendary Games' Occult Archetypes? Occult Archetypes II?

>>52899328
The complaint is valid...

Even if it is retarded.
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>>52899368
They're still gnolls.
Being a part of the pack is one thing, and they should try to help each other and stand up for one another.

But if someone's shown himself to be consistently weak, cowardly, and unfit to be part of the pack then they're probably going to end up being worth more as rations than as a fellow warrior.

They should consider it merciful to end someone's life quickly before he does something like give up information that'd weaken the pack.

If a gnoll gets caught alone, he should probably run and try to find allies. If he's taken captive, he's probably going to lie and tell the PCs whatever he thinks they want to hear, but not actually give them useful information unless he's tricked into it. More than likely, his information should be leading them into a trap.
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>>52899292
>>52899310
If Enlightened Paladin is the one you're referring to, it was disappointing. I was using the PFSRD to find archetypes, any ideas on where else to look? I'm going to be using natural weapons specifically if that helps.
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>>52899366
Honestly, it's hella fun and if you've never run a game like that it's absolutely worth a shot. Balance is kept by virtue of the rule applying to EVERYONE though, so you gotta be ready to throw more feats onto the stats of anything you pull from a book. If you can do that, it's a blast!
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So bit of homebrew here, I know there's overlap in names with the Gonzo PRC but whatever. Feedback or comments would be cool.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1x_fRxjP-PJWC942J4u4R13dkNsqqgHnE-bMHLqoUJiQ/edit?usp=sharing
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Blingmaker when??
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>>52898999
My current character in a Homebrew is a regular student who goes on a trip. Outside of visiting some shrines slightly off the beaten path, he's been fairly normal.
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>>52898999
She had a retired adventurer and her family to teach her everything she needed to know!
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>>52899685
Do they not get unarmed attack?
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>>52899685
Instead of calling it "Bomb in the Blood", why not "Burning Hot" or something catchy like that?

Otherwise, it's a good archetype
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>>52898701
What?
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>>52899700
Blingmaker NOW.

Alright ladies and gentlemen, discard your fears of bamboozlement! It's time for the PCs of Blingmaker to be announced! For anybody that isn't aware, Blingmaker is a modified version of the Kingmaker adventure path I plan to run where the players can expect their PCs to get filthy stinking rich, even by the standards of adventurers (not to mention my own attempt at fixing some of Kingmaker's more egregious problems). Many people applied to Blingmaker, and before I announce who my players and PCs are, I would like to thank each person that applied for having put in the effort you did. I feel the general level of quality in the applications is very high- picking through all of them and making my choices was not easy, and if I had the time and talent for it I would have run several games to give all these wonderful characters their own story, their own kingdom, and their own HOARD OF RIDICULOUS BANK.

I had a lovely collection of apps for this game to look through and evaluate, and I've come to the conclusion that all of you made great characters. Even if you weren't selected for Blingmaker, I hope you had fun applying. I enjoyed speaking with many of you and giving you feedback on your apps. Beyond that, I think the process helped me become better not only at reviewing characters but also at recognizing what makes a good character good and a great character great. So again, thank you all for applying to Blingmaker, whether you were accepted or not.

And with that wishy-washy stuff out of the way, I'm going to move on to the announcements.
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>>52899853
>HYPE
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>>52899853
[F5 slapping intensifies]
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>blingmaker apps wrapping up

Is the era of game recruitment over?
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>>52899853
YOOOOOOOOOO
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>>52899880
You poor child, you know not what the future holds
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>>52899888
DUB TRIPS CONFIRM BLINGMAKER FOR MAXIMUM HYPE
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>>52899853
Show me the money!
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>>52899866
>>52899877
>>52899888
>>52899899
>>52899911
>>52899922
These dubs are unreal
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>>52899880
We still have Overlewd to keep us in this hell.
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>>52899853
First up, we have... Captain Slow's Andrik Kaminski! The LG Warder was plucked out of obscurity by a traveling knight, an holy warrior who carried the wills of Brevoy's most venerated gods- Pharasma, Gorum, and Abadar. He learned more than just swordsmanship from the old man. He learned honor, generousity, and hope, for as the old man use to say, "Who knows what the dawn will bring?"

Andrik strives to see the common folk's cause advanced, for people to have work and food. Despite his many years as a squire to a great knight, the man hasn't forgotten his roots as a poor farmboy, and would like to dedicate his time and money to ensuring the next generation grows up properly. After all, who knows which children are made for greatness by destiny? But all work and no play makes Jack a dull boy, and at the end of the day Andrik hopes to be able to sit in a garden relaxing or sip at some drink with a few friends.

>>52899880
Certainly not, I hope! I'm optimistic that something new is around the corner. Besides, there are other games recruiting right now! Like Overlewd!
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Anyone have any success playing a Vigilante?

I get what it's supposed to do, but it doesn't seem like anything you couldn't achieve playing any other class. If you're having fun with it, I'd love to hear about your character.
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>>52899930
TRIPS CONFIRM
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>>52899938
Captain Slow is fucking invincible.
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>>52899959
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>>52899938
>>52899959
>>52899948

>Captain Slow gets into another game
>Trips confirm

What is that bastard's secret. WHAT IS IT?
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>>52899748
>>52899751
Changed that up
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>>52899853
>that wishy washy stuff

Aw, thanks Wubu. You've done a good job of making people hype for your game but you're a pretty swell person too.

WUBU A CUTE!
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>>52899965

Self shilling and ERP
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>>52899976
dude he doesn't self shill, kys
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>>52899976
>Self-shilling and ERP

Of course, of course. He does it Rory style
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>>52899930
I guess it's time to check my fives!
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>>52899935

Ahhh, fuck. I forgot that was even a thing. That's more of a containment game than a real game though.. right?
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>>52899976
I think it's more a dedicated fanbase at this point. People assume he's the best at ERP because someone said he was, and nobody tells them otherwise.

It's not self-shilling or even skill, just celebrity.
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>>52900003
>Expecting quints
>Get Quads

Haha kys niggaer
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>>52900003
The magic is spent it seems
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>>52899993

It's not like it's a bad thing. It's an anonymous board, why wouldn't you self shill?
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>>52899938
Secondly, we have... Immortal's Branwen Gwas Ddraig Du! The NE Witch was raised to be a perfect minion for a dark, draconic lord... But she always knew she was meant to be more than a lowly servant and fortunately for Branwen, her scaled patron recognized the potential for greatness in her! Cenncroithi, a powerful black dragon who came to Brevoy from Iobaria after the disappearance of Choral the Conqueror, gifted Branwen with both a small hoard of her own and instructions on how to amass power through wealth before sending her on her way to explore the world and make her mark. Finally, a chance to move out of her parents' basement!

Greedy, greedy, and greedier still, Branwen's actions are entirely driven by gold and gems- or so she'd have you believe, at least. She desires to accumulate great wealth both to impress her patron and to grow her own magical powers, and is willing to use quite unscrupulous means to do it. Ultimately, she dreams of Scrouge McDucking it up with a massive hoard of her own, and would spare little expense to secure whatever finds its way into her bank account- just as her draconic patron would have it. But in actuality, Branwen has the naive heart of a young woman, and learning the meaning of friendship, camaraderie, and even love could certainly upset the plans dark Cenncroithi has in mind for her.

>>52899935
Truth be told, I plan to apply for Overlewd later, now that I can take a breather from reviewing and comparing apps and trying to assemble a party.
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>>52899922
>>52899911
>>52899899
>>52899888
>>52899877
>>52899866
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>>52900027
Because you then end up in a situation where it becomes too obvious, like with a certain anon
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>>52900053
Holy shitballs
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>>52899938
>>52900031
>Andrew Carnegie Knight
>J.P. Morgon with scales and tits Witch
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>>52900053
https://youtu.be/-o92Ioh63cY?t=11
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>>52898295
I had a horse that I donated to a small village because they were super poor. Then I had a giant lizard. Then she died and got reincarnated as a human because druids. Shortly after, I got a dire wolverine to replace the lost mount. Then I had a homunculus, until the wizard killed it in a party encompassing fireball. Then both the reincarnated lizard/waifu and the wolverine died in the same boss fight. Now I have a lizard horse and I'm scared to use it since it has only 1/3 of my health.
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>>52900053
blessed by kek we are
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>>52900076
>nearly get 7 dubs in a row, one of which was trips.
GOD IS ON OUR SIDE
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>>52899974
>Wubu
>cute

Anon, you do know that Wubu is a shameless slut that pleases men for money, right?
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>>52899938
>>52899959
Dicky Daddy always ready and willing with those yummy cummies
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>>52900099
HE WILLS IT

PRAISE BE UNTO HIM
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>>52900099
>Blingmaker GM announcing picks
>people more amazed by the surge of dubs and trips

I can't even tell what the hype is for anymore
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>>52899445
Hmm that makes sense and gives me the perfect idea on how to proceed. Thanks anon
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>>52900031
Up third, we have... Centarius' Antoinette Hearthsley! The NE Wizard is a lovely elven woman possessing great charms and an even greater insights into magic. Hailing from Kyonin's capital city of Iadara, the woman comes from an affluent family and was easily able to find her way into wizard college. Antoinette was intrigued by the mystique and power surrounding one particular field of study- unfortunately for the elven woman, she'd set her sight on the forbidden arts of necromancy. When her secret studies suddenly became not-so-secret and her maligned interests outed, Antoinette was left with no choice except to sever ties to her family, flee her home, and take a new name. After drifting to Brevoy she heard about the Swordlord's call for adventurers to purge the Greenbelt of bandits, and while she couldn't give less of a damn about politics or wars, she knows the chance to get at a few warm bodies when she sees one.

Given the chance, Antoinette would like to not only continue to train her talents, but to even teach others. She has signed to the charter to explore the Stolen Lands for the opportunity to hone her craft safely away from the prying eyes and strict morals of society, but also hopes to study some of the stranger magics rumored to linger in the area- including the undoubtedly magical explosion which shook the land nearly a year ago. Surely bandits couldn't really be responsible for such a thing, but in any case nobody is going to miss a few thieves or murders and they've got strong bodies that it'd be such a shame to waste...
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>>52900131
yes
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>>52900099
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>>52900136
>>52900031
>>52899938
Okay, I understand that some of these were actually good picks, but a pretty dire pattern is forming.

These are just the apps that got memed the hardest.
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>>52899974
I want to carry Wubu's children!
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>>52900031
>>52900136
>Not one, but TWO Neutral Evil casters

I think you all know what /u/ need to do
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Christ even the announcement process for this is needlessly drawn out
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>>52900136
In the fourth slot, we have... Stein's Franze Voigt! The LE Gunslinger is an older woman who has had a rough life in Port Ice, but a life that was saved from being even worse thanks to a dedicated uncle and her own senses finally telling her to get out of a bad relationship. Franze found her way into law enforcement after that, with a strong desire to protect the next generation and to crush subversive, dangerous elements of society... no matter what means are necessary. But when the somewhat paranoid woman isn't busy building a better tomorrow, she is fond of relaxing with music and tea.

Franze is thoroughly dedicated to her ideals. She comes to the Stolen Lands with a hope that she can help forge more stable bonds between House Surtova- with whom she has friendly connections- and the Rostland noble houses. On the other hand, failing that, Franze would still be a useful tool for House Surtova to have in keeping the Swordlords' plays in check. Will she really end up as little more than a tool for the Surtovas to use in their political machinations? Only time will tell, but if their goals begin to diverge from Franze's own, her determination and dedication could prove quite troublesome for them!
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>>52900158
Wow its almost like apps that get 'memed' are better than ones that don't
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>>52900031
>>52900136
Wubu confirmed for having a fetish for evil arcane caster ladies.
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>>52900158
No posts on the LFG. I think we may be getting counter-bamboozled.
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>>52900173
GOOD
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>>52900167
>TFW 3 EVIL HUNNIES THAT NEED TO BE REDEEMED BY SOME LAWFUL GOOD HUNK

GONNA HAVE TO SMITE PUSSY.
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>>52900173
Some of them are. Some of them really weren't. I'm worried about how the game's going to turn out now.
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>>52900167
Now it's time for a little surprise. Blingmaker was meant to be a four-player campaign, but the volume of great apps and certain other factors forced me to bend and eventually break on that! There's a buy-two-get-one-free deal on quality PCs in Brevoy, so instead of four players I've ended up with six.
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>>52900192
Your concern trolling is pretty obvious
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>>52899938
>>52900031
>>52900136
>>52900167
>LG
>NE
>NE
>LE
>>52900189
>daddy memes already in full swing
>>52900201
>AS EXPECTED
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>>52900186
Its real, Wubu is on the Discord
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>>52900167
>all these evil chicks

Seriously?
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>>52899930
that has really gotta be the most petty use of programmer privileged I have ever seen. I'd suspected admins or mods had a way to get doubles for ages but was always like, naaahh, nobody be that petty.

seriously fucking pathetic. like just. ugh.. i can't even
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>>52900201
BONUS ROUND BONUS ROUND
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>>52900208
Look at these apps chosen so far and tell me that this looks like it's a good setup for something other than meme-baiting.

>>52900201
I'll bet you fucking Kyras is next.
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>>52900031
>>52899938
>>52900136
>>52900167
>Three evil ladies
>one LG bro
Literally Andrew Carnegie, J.P. Morgan, John D. Rockafeller, and a Pinkerton
>all in a potentially comedic harem plot setup
HORY SHEET!
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>>52900201
For the fifth PC, we have... MaximumSleep's Kyras Czarny! The LN Cavalier with a Bard VMC is probably better known in Brevoy by his more infamous and intimidating title, the "Abyss Knight". The tiefling was born of a short encounter between a poor baker and Rogarvian nobility, but his father was certainly never going to recognize him as his son when he had a demonic taint to him. Eventually Kyras would find himself in the company of a traveling troupe of performers, and it would be these people that would be his new family for a few years until an unfortunate encounter with river trolls left him as quite possibly the only surviving member of the group. It was then, forced to find a way to feed and fend for himself, that he adopted the persona of the Abyss Knight... But in truth, he's actually a pretty nice guy beneath the fearsome mask he wears for show!

The reason Kyras joins the expidition to clear out the Greenbelt is simple: to make his name even more infamous. Not content with the idea of being a humble performer or a noble's purchased thug, Kyras wants to carve himself into the legends of the land. With these efforts, Brevoy will either learn to see Kyras as a hero or find him to be a bigger beast than they had ever known- either suits the man's fancy fine. With a preposterous sum of wealth, Kyras would desire a stronghold to live safely and comfortably in, a place where he and others like him (those who have suffered for the circumstances of their birth) can take shelter from a world that shuns them.
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>>52900222
Well then, I guess it's just another game that's destined to be crushed under the weight of its own memes.
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>>52900201
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So blingmaker wasn't a bamboozle, but it was just the most meme'd apps?
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>>52900242
Does this mean Overlewd is kill?
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>>52899941
Anyone?

I knew it was unpopular but I figured there'd be at least one or two people having fun with it.
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>>52898295

You spoony one you.
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>>52900244
>>52900222
KEK IS WITH US ONCE MORE
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>>52900235
>I'll bet you fucking Kyras is next.
DING DING DING
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>>52900262
Vigilante is an amazing class though.
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>>52900235
>>52900242
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>>52900244
Humanity's soul is weighed down by memes.
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>>52900242
If last one is Milre then meme magic works
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>>52900262
The issue with the Vigilante is the best parts of it have nothing to do with the Dual Identity feature, and everything to do with the fact that it can emulate other classes. Also it has some fucking RADICAL 3pp going for it, some of which exists solely to make the shittier 1pp stuff actually function LOOKING AT YOU, WARLOCK.
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>>52900263
She's supposed to be brown though.
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>>52900262

I actually haven't gotten the chance to play it, but I really want to. Maybe mix in Gruesome Shapechange somewhere for maximum horror hero.
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>>52900256
pfg games are almost always just the most meme'd apps
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>>52900287
I'm hoping for it.
But I'm worried.
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>>52900277
I want to believe.

Help me understand.
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salt incoming
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>>52900293
delicious brown?
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>>52900239
>>52900242
Okay, I need another historical figure to match to Kyras if I wanna keep this Late 1800s theme going. Any thoughts?
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>>52900302
its basically slightly better Fighter or Rogue + significant social aspects to its power.

this means it has a lot of shit it can do, while still being excellent at whatever its job is

and the archetypes are neat too
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>>52900242
Lastly, we have... Disk's Viviana D'Apparan! The NG Unchained Rogue/Mystic has a troubled past with a criminal family that trained her to turn a profit off the misfortune of others. However, a chance encounter with an errant knight not only saved Viviana's life but reforged it. She would learn, slowly, from the man's selfless deeds and gradually change to person who wants to make amends for her past. It was only after the knight's life was sacrificed to spare hers that Viviana was truly remade, though soon after that a single valiant deed of her own seemed set to make Viviana's life likewise sacrificed. But it was then that something new, something magical awakened in the redeemed crook, and though her wound will not heal Viviana marches on.

Unique among the Blingmaker PCs, Viviana was not chartered by the Swordlords to clear out and investigate the Greenbelt- after choosing to incriminate her whole family, self included, for their long history of crimes, she fled into the Stolen Lands. She will meet the other PCs as they arrive at Oleg's Trading Post, and join them on their journey to eliminate the Greenbelt's bandit problem as a way to start making up for having done much banditry of her own in the past. She wants to see the world become a safer, brighter place, and would seek to invest what wealth she comes across into the community, particularly law enforcement.

>>52900258
No, I confirmed with Sleep privately that our games won't have an effect on each other.

>>52900256
Almost everybody got memed at some point or another in Blingmaker, I noticed. In any case though, I feel like I picked apps that make for a strong team with an interesting dynamic, and the fact that those apps might be some of the most memed isn't really indicative of anything significant, I feel.
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>>52900244
That ship already sailed when Wubu said she wanted equal numbers of men and women for maximum shiportunities.
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>>52900322
Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
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>>52900322
キタ━━━(゜∀゜)━━━ッ!!
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Congrats to everyone that's gonna get so D O S H
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>>52900322
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Welp, time to stop caring about Blingmaker and hope that Overlewd will have at least a little integrity in its selection process.
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>>52900354
Not me, but many of the anons here now.
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Welp, now's the time to send those PMs, I guess. Smoke 'em if you got 'em.
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>>52900322
BLESSED BY THE SALT OF THIS DAY
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>>52900322
>>52900242
>>52900167
>>52900136
>>52900031
>>52899938
Reminder to start shilling yourself IMMEDIATELY if you want to have a ghost of a chance to get in to Overlewd. Get someone to shill your character with you if at all possible.
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>>52900369
>When you're already buddies with one of the applicants and have already sent them PMs

He he he he he
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>>52900366
What do you mean by this?
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>>52900322
I only made 4 predictions but all 4 of them got in, do I count as 4/4 or 4/6?
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>>52900322
Any honorable mentions?
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>>52900382
>>52900369
And the same for anybody who got in and wanted someone else to get in with them.
I know that feel all too well.
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>>52900322
>>52900333
>>52900366
>>52900311
>>52900300
>>52900244
MEMES INTO DREAMS
MEMES INTO DREAMS
MEMES INTO DREAMS
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>>52900322
Alright folks, that's in. The final Blingmaker party is:

1 Andrik Kaminski
2 Branwen Gwas Ddraig Du
3 Antoinette Hearthsley
4 Franze Voigt
5 Kyras Czarny
6 Viviana D'Apparan

Sessions will be held on Wednesday, starting next week, and I'll do my best to make sure greentexts get shared. One last time, I would like to thank everybody that applied for my game, even if you didn't make the final cut.

>>52900333
To be honest I don't really remember having said that, but I have a shit memory so maybe I did. But what I do know is that that never would have been an iron-clad rule guiding my selections, just one of several preferences I had for a final party (some of which were realized, some of which weren't).
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>>52900383
I'm just hoping that the picks for Overlewd won't be decided by who shilled themselves the hardest in the thread. It's obvious that Wubu is more interested in making a game that /pfg/ will blather on about instead of putting together a team of the most interesting characters. I was hoping that just once, a game I put my heart into applying for didn't end up being some DM's vanity project, but that didn't happen for RotJR, it didn't happen for Dragons and it didn't happen here. Overlewd is my only hope.
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>>52900392
Eh, I'm counting it as 4/5. Since, of my initial predictions, that's how many got in.

(I also predicted the party expansion too!)
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>>52900434
Maybe you're just shit mate
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>the most highly shilled characters are the ones that got in

I should start shilling and doing reviews to tear others down, shouldn't I?
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I have literally no idea what any of this means. I can gather from the name that someone is running kingmaker, but why is it that people seem to care about who gets in or whatever.
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>>52900434

You should abandon all hope
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>>52900450
Tear down those chucklefucks not going with monsterclasses in Overlewd.

Then shill them because they aren't special snowflakes

>>52900460
Memes son. memes
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>>52900428
BRANWICH WHEN??
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>>52900448
Maybe, but that didn't seem to stop Onryou or Valeriya from getting it. It sure as hell didn't stop Rory from getting in.
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>>52900434

Overlewd is like 100% gonna be Cabal ERPers.

I guarantee it.
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Time to saddle up, then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCKDvjVzpNQ
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>>52900392
Call it a perfect score, buddy.

>>52900394
Yes, honorable mentions go out to Andrei, Sigmund, Gregori, and Evelyn/Sofia. Unfortunately to some extent my picks were shaped by schedule availabilities, but ultimately I'm pleased with the final team. I feel there's an interesting dynamic to be explored between many of the PCs, while also achieving an acceptable balance in party roles. Incidentally, Branwen is actually going to be playing a witch that uses WIS to cast and the druid spell list, a change I offered to alleviate the fact that otherwise there would be two INT-based prepared arcane full casters.
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>>52900428
The two NE arcane girls, I'm curious, did you decide of each of them individually or did you force yourself to include both when you couldn't decide on which one of the two? I do think they're both good but the overlap makes me think it was a decision you had to fold on.
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>>52900292
I don't really play with 3pp at all. What 3pp stuff for the Vigilante interests you?

>>52900321
Which archetypes do you like? Most of them seemed a little redundant to me but I didn't really get a good look.
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>>52900450
Start right now. Put on a reviewanon name and just go to town. People here are so insecure they'll be knocking down your door for reviews and too desperate to realize you're just doing it to shill your own character.
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>>52900499
almost all of them have great potential.
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>>52900512
Every time
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>>52900512
>>52900367
>>52900311

I see only one really salty person, and that post is so delusional I'd imagine it's a false flag
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>>52900490
>honorable mention
That's all I wanted. Thank you.
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What are the consequences of letting a race autosucceed on Escape Artist?
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>>52900539
Low quality subs.
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>>52900539
>autosucc
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Not even salty. Just a little disappointed I'll never greentext the romance I wanted in Blingmaker.
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>>52900552
>Low quality subs.
RUB A DUB DUB
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>>52900490
>Gregori gets an honorable mention
Honestly, this was more than I expected. Hope your game goes well, dude!
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>>52900450
>>52900511
Shit man, I'd take a review just anyway just to see the memes. Low-quality reviewanons just get spotted immediately anyway.

>>52900499
Legendary Vigilantes and Legendary Villains: Vigilantes, from Legendary Games, both are in the trove. Basically anything by EhnJolly. If you you look up the most-updated Vigilante Guide, it reviews the stuff from the book(s).
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>>52900558
P M H I M
M
H
I
M
I got in, and I'm PMing someone to do exactly that.
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>>52900434
This is exactly what's wrong with post-RotJR /pfg/. It's attention seeking to the max. If it was about playing games that would be fine, but we don't talk about games, we talk about celeb characters.
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I have time to do three or four reviews for Overlewd apps if anyone is interested.
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>>52900570
Gregori was a good app, you should be proud!
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>>52900600

Roll for them
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>>52900600
Roll for it.
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>>52900552
>>52900553
Memes aside...

Oozelike people race, right? Can you grapple the ooze? Should they succeed automatically, or just be really good at it?
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>>52900434
I hope not. I've totally avoided shilling myself and have just been participating in discussion of the apps.

But I also trust sleep to pick a good party, so I think it'll be fine.
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>>52900600
>00600
You have been ordained by the palandromic gods. You must post your reviews now.
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>>52900490
>WIS to cast and the druid spell list

But this is a straight downgrade.

The druid is total dogshit and the witch's list is already distinct from the wizard's.
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>no Nugget Man
I'm still mad
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>>52900600
Umbranae
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>>52900600
I'd like a review of Crytha. I'm scratching my head to try and improve her.
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Rolled 18 (1d39)

>>52900611
>>52900615
Fuck, fine.
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>>52900647
Where would the nugg have placed, wubu?
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How decent is the martial power feat if you're playing a front liner with less than optimal AC?
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>>52900492
I liked them individually. I feel Branwen and Andrik have the potential for an amazing dynamic, and I couldn't ignore Antoinette's extensive development as a sign of a player that's invested. I was bothered by the fact that they're both NE arcane girls, but that's slightly alleviated by the change I mentioned in >>52900490 and the fact that Branwen is NE with player-stated plans for a redemption arc and Antoinette is technically NE but kind of strikes me as TN in the first place since really she just wants to study her magic in peace and doesn't seem to have any nefarious plans.

Viviana is a second good influence for the evil PCs, and her goals play nicely with Franze's while still leaving some room for tension and disagreement over methods.
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Hypothesis: Shilling helps get apps in not because the shilling itself impacts the DM's decision, but because public criticism gives the applicant more to work with in regards to polishing their app.

It is not that people necessarily shill the best apps, but that apps become the best through being shilled.
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>>52900627

Bad news for you m8
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>DHB BTFO
All is right with the world.
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>>52898337
>unironically using miniatures
Faggot
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>>52900675

It's just the exposure effect, if you read the threads and see people mentioned a lot it gives you a positive feeling about them because they pop into the front of your head.

"No bad publicity" it worked for Rory, and none of these apps were as bad as his
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>>52900512
Hey guys, what's up?
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>>52900664
>I feel Branwen and Andrik have the potential for an amazing dynamic

What did Woob mean by this?
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>>52900675
I keep designing characters I think people will latch onto, but apparently they're so average or weird that nobody even looks at them.
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>>52900627

He's a degenerate furry. Just run with something furry
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>>52900512
what is this picture supposed to mean?
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>>52900600
Hit up th@ c@
either will do
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>>52900714
Honestly, there really *is* such a thing as bad publicity. I, personally, wouldn't pick someone I can safely assume to be the type who's going to go starting shit and being a prima donna.
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>>52900627
There's probably some information that can be discerned from the LoBaF picks in regards to Overlewd predictions.
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>>52900574
Remember everybody, if you didn't get into Blingmaker, PM Wubu for a "consolation prize"! She's a shameless slut that pleases men for money, after all.
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>>52900748

Someone is trying to force a "HAHA EVERYONE IS SO MAD" meme
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>>52900748
It's Aesop, motherfucker, educate yourself.
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>>52900753

Yeah, but you're not the average /pfg/ GM.
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>>52900600
Jaune pls
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>>52900758
LoBaF picks were just the biggest memes as usual
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>>52900758

Memes
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>>52900761
Thats a lie! Wubu is pure! Fuck off Luvia!
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>>52900471
That doesn't help me much. Lots of things around here are memes.
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So what then, what games HAVEN'T just chosen the biggest memes to get in?

Like WWW had the doll. But everyone else seemed to be nobodies.

And I can't remember WotR having memes?
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>>52900600
Could we not do this "rolling" thing when people actually want feedback? I'm pretty sure people pushing for rolls don't even have applications.
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>>52900803
Who were the most memed out of Dragons1?
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>>52900803

WWW was good picks, it didn't get meme'd much besides doll
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>>52900815
Rolls are only good when the reviews come in consistently. When there's a week between each batch, it only causes frustration.
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>>52900803
WotR had the trap, but he was one of about a half dozen trap characters, and his only meme was "Shit, that's actually a pretty good way to justify being a trap".

And the brawler chick who got in had some people fawning over her and wanting to dom/daddy that shit, but all their talk of applying with BIG KELLID MAN WITH BIG KELLID COCK never went anywhere.
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>>52900821

It really was.

Broodie has my respect. I can't say the same for others.
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>>52900815
>>52900827
Who was rolled?
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>>52900821
It didn't get meme'd because Blingmaker and then Overlewd ate its lunch
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>>52900829

But....I thought at least one BIG KELLID COCK did get in the game.

Wasn't the bloodrager kellid?
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>>52900691

You don't like having little dudes or dudettes for your characters?
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>>52900849
As far as I can tell, Olivia.
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>>52900832
i don't even have my own respect dude
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I've started playing an archer inquisitor of Cayden in the Jade Regent Ap with my friends. He's a cheerful guy who started brewing beer for fun and decided to sell it while travelling with the caravan (our GM liked the idea, so we're now making some extra gp. Pics is what a PC saw after failing a Fortitude saving throw).
Anyway, I need help with the build: what are good spells for an archer Inquisitor?
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>>52900857
Aasimar, implied to be Kellid. But he was one of the first, way before the meme started up, and didn't really change his app up to emphasize Kellid-ness unlike the anons who were all planning to be so Scottish they shit haggis.
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>>52900832
>Any character that's ever been mentioned in a thread shouldn't be picked!
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>>52900881

http://zenithgames.blogspot.ca/2012/11/the-comprehensive-pathfinder-guides.html
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>>52900803
Hell's Rebels, BOTH Group A and B.
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>>52900899

t. shillfag
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>>52900881
First question: Do you have Fate's Favored, and have you taken Divine Favor? Have you checked the guides listed in >>52900902 at all? What content do you have available and what do you have RIGHT NOW?
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>>52900909
Chris is cute! Cute!
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>>52900790
But how can Wubu be pure if she's applying to Overlewd? See >>52900031

>>52900675
Seems legit but I think it's probably a middle ground between two extremes. Shilled apps get more attention and are more memorable because of it. But they also get more feedback, so that probably improves the app too. It's also possible that good apps get shilled, either by their players or others, and get picked because they're good and not because they're shilled.

>>52900899
Also that would be dumb logic, which is why the people complaining about shilled characters getting in to games are being stupid. /pfg/ obsesses over /pfg/ games, it's inevitable that many characters will get talked about on the thread.
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>>52900872
I just got done with revising Olivia and got a lot of feedback there. I'm good to not get any from the thread. Roll for someone who really wants a review.
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>>52900968
It might be too late, senpai
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Do you think you could fluff Leadership to where your Cohort is technically your boss, or somehow higher on a chain of command than you?
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>>52900994
RIP, I only just saw it.
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>>52900946

Yeah, I guess.
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>>52900761
>>52900790
>>52900790
Ah, what the hell, why not? What's the worst that happens if I send a PM, I get the cold shoulder? Feel a little awkward? I want to see if the rumors are true
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>>52900861
Certainly not gonna blow my money on them
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>>52900996
Yes
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How often does pfg talk about character creation and character options versus level design and cool game concepts?

Long story short, how many people here do you suspect is a player compared to the number which game master?
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>>52900996
As long as your DM is okay with it, then sure, why not? I mean, he is letting you have Leadership in the first place
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>>52900924
The only traits our master allowed were the campaign ones; CRB, APG and Humans of Golarion as allowed materials.
Level 2 Inquisitor with Cure Light wounds, Bless and Divine Favor, and Enhance Water as a spell-like ability.
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>reviewanon rolls a number and then fucking dies
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Thanks for the memes, everyone! I'm really grateful to get into another game. Playing and shitposting with you has really cheered me up during what's been the darkest time of my life.

No matter anybody else says, know that I really, truly appreciate you, /pfg/.

Thank you.
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>>52901135

40:1 players to GM's
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Have we gotten any leaks of Bestiary 6 or Heroes of the Darklands yet?
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>>52901135
I don't think you need to be a GM to wanna talk about cool game concepts, likewise a GM can enjoy character creation ideas, especially if he wants to use them to make interesting NPCs.

Me, I'm a player, but I hope to one day get up the nerve and experience to try GMing a game in the future
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>>52901153
Jesus christ how horrifying.
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>>52901151
Captain Slow?
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>>52900857
Does this look Kellid to you?
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>>52901150
Anon, look at most of the apps. They're fucking MASSIVE
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>>52901151
Thank you anon. I appreciate you too
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>>52901151
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>>52901183
To be honest, Paizo has been rather flip-floppy on what Kellids look like.
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>>52901154
Tomorrow, anon. Tomorrow.
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Rolled 5 (1d34)

>>52900660

Olivia Favilina

>Daughter of a disgraced noble family from the old empire.
>Grows up resenting Dondoran for having her birthright snatched away.
>Decided to pursue nobility through military achievement.
>Does well in the academy, seems to be well on her way to her goal.
>Starts dating young noble.
>After fucks, she learns his pops was one of those who removed the old nobility from power.
>Kills him and runs away in a fit of emotion.

Olivia is well-written for the most part, and being the daughter of the old empire seems like a very solid foundation for this campaign. The backstory is short and sweet, which is nice. There are two serious complaints I have regarding her, and I think addressing them would help the character a lot.

First, her personality is a bit bare bones and her backstory does not do very much to build on it. We know she's impulsive and desires to be noble, but aside from that there's not much to go on. What does she do for fun? How does she talk to people she's not trying to impress? What attracted her to Heinrich in the first place, and why was she willing to kill him so quickly after being close to him for years?

Second, I'd like to know a bit more about how she's going to move forwards. While I don't think she needs to be a villain straight away, there should be a clear path for how she's going to develop into one eventually. As it stands, she's just on the run after an impulsive decision. She has a grudge against the people who fucked over her family, but does she have any clear goal?

And now for the meme ratings:
>Fluff 3/5, competent backstory, has the potential for good hooks within the setting, I'd like a clearer picture of what kind of person she is.
>Crunch 4/5, Warlord and Hedgewitch for full initiation and mid-to-full spherecasting. She would seem to fill the role of a leader pretty well.
>Villainy 2/5, she falls a bit flat here, but I think it could be easily improved.
>Cuteness 4/5, would let her step on me.
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>>52901218
That and they don't really have any particular culture. Like, they're sorta-kinda Irish by way of Conan, but they don't have any actual naming conventions or cultural trappings to indicate that.

They don't have an identity beyond "barbarian", and whenever Paizo wants someone to be a noble savage, they're just Shoanti anyway.
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>>52901209
Is that sum Grand Blue?
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>>52901218
This has always bothered me yeah. A lot of people think they're all Conan but there's a decent amount of first party art floating around of them as fair-haired and slender-muscled and I don't know which to refer to.
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>>52901227
>peopl point out that rolling when there are people who genuinely want reviews is probably a bad idea
>still goes with the rolls anyway

Well, at least you're an honest man.
Surely my time will come. It's not like I'll get cucked again?
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>>52901159
My first game I ran was a single session dungeon delve into the mansion of a wealthy dead uncle of the face of the party. It was creatively inspired by darkest dungeon and finished with a gibbering mouther in a pitch black well in the cellar. It worked really well for me, wasnt too complicated and told a story.
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>>52901279
Well, you're in luck--now that Blingmaker worries have passed and we're past the first week of the app process, I'm going to start offering reviews via PMs on Roll20.
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>>52901227
>all these babbies using Granblue art
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>>52901254
>>52901218
I always thought them to be possibly either mesopotamian or eastern-european, what with Ustalav being originally their land and most of Northern Brevoy being populated by them.

Really, I guess they're kind of just "generic barbarians for when the plot demands we need Picts or whatever."
Which is a shame, because we could use more information or them, or at least the different tribal groups of them. Because as of now they're just as disappointingly bland and monotypic as the Mwangi
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Has anyone considered making a real villain for Overlewd?

One who can definitely roll Disguise checks well?

One who can catch good guys, like real paladins?
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>>52901306
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>>52901300
nice
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>>52901316
I will admit I heavily considered this for my app.
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>>52901330
>>52901316
Alright! I guess I'm going to have to include some NPC quest-giver to teach you guy show to be...Villains!
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>>52901354
What if your app got in, but none of the PCs they were memed with got in?
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>>52900675
Being more memed leads to people discussing potential meme PC-meme PC interactions. That puts it into the DM's head that those interactions might be interesting. Since a DM is trying to make an interesting game, those interactions act as a force-multiplier for an app's chances. It's that simple, look at Valeriya riding on the coattails of Casimir's popularity as a prime example.
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>>52901227
Thank you for the review, man. I'll flesh out her personality a bit more and maybe write a final bit on what she's going to do. Major reason I didn't do that before is because I wanted to keep things short and simple.
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>>52900758

I'm still a little salty about LoBaF. Got overlooked in favor of meme characters. Fuck.
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>>52901369
Like I said, it's a force-multiplier, not a magic bullet.
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>>52901369
>>52901375
Yeah, Kyras got in but Milre didn't. Andrei was memed but he didn't get in.

Blingmaker was also interesting because a lot of people that got memed at first stopped being memed later, like Seska.
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Okay so quick question, why do so many people care about these games? Do logs of what happens get posted to a pastebin or what? Because honestly it doesn't seem to affect anyone around here.
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>>52901408
Making characters is fun, and we exhaust the ability to shitpost about Paizo stuff literally the second anything gets leaked.
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>>52901420
Thats kinda sad if it's true but okay.
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>>52901386
Who was your app? I took people's criticisms of a boring, archetypal personality and flawed backstory very seriously and filled it in.
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>>52901430
It really is pretty sad that paizo can't put out enough stuff to keep discussion going for very long, but them's the breaks
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>>52901408
1) It's something to talk about, something that actually has to do with Pathfinder even
2) Often logs or greentext from these games do get posted, yes
3) Just making character and talking about characters is fun, and it's nice to have something to be excited about when nobody has faith in Paizo anymore
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>>52901227
>Cuteness 4/5, would let her step on me.
Thank god I'm not the only one.
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>>52901319
You know, I wonder if there's a correlation between people who roleplay as the opposite sex and people who /lgbt/.
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>>52901479
Are you implying Olivianon is /lgbt/?
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>>52901386
I don't know if the meme argument really holds up that well for LoBaF, not because there weren't memes but because the memes were all over the place. At different points it was criticized for having too many waifus, not enough waifus, too many Outlanders, no complete apps, nothing but weak apps, or too much strong competition. Apps were also weighted harder to the end of the period than most games.

And the most meme app didn't even get in in the end after weeks of belly dancer posting.
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>>52901375
Valeriya-Casimir was a masterpiece of manipulation. I have no idea if it was Valeriya's player self-shilling or just somebody overinvested in the character, but once they were put together it was pure meme magic.
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>>52901408
>>52901420
>>52901430
>>52901447
>>52901452
Okay, but why do people talk about these characters SO much, as if they were everyone's waifus from a new anime?

Aren't these discussions the majority of /pfg/ posts nowadays?
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>>52901519
You answered your own question right there, Anon. New /pfg/ games are to /pfg/ as a new season of anime is to /a/.

But anyway, we have startlingly little else to talk about. But /pfg/ games and memes than lower quality, off-topic memes.
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>>52898295

Actually playing Wrath of the righteous. My character is an urban bloodrager with the destined bloodline and a rather shady racial heritage (I have the Racial heritage : dhampir feat , the bite attack feat and i rolled fascination for blood in the racial heritage table on the bastards of golarion book) She's a human ustalavic noble from the Arudora bloodline (a cursed ustalavic family because an ancient heir of the family who was a paladin of shelyn pity-fucked Urgathoa and had a kid with her, and latter kidnapped the little girl because Shelyn and the guy thought Urgathoa would be an abusive mother. Gm hinted that my character could be the child. ) and is a pretty uptight, honorable and lawful swashbuckler, hating demons and evil creatures with a passion, but hiding a secret fascination for the strange beauty of bloodletting and the perverse addiction of cannibalism (which she struggled against since she was young , but gives in to when she rages and bites her foes)

Long story short, my character is on the Marshal Mythic path and was nominated to the head of the crusade. The Gm asked if it was okay with me to take the prestige feat even tho i don't really like it because it puts the spotlight heavily on one character , but the other pcs and the gm assured me it won't be a problem.

So now, my character is at the head of the Crimson Crusade, and the inner circle of paladins are called Blood Knights, who the GM created a paladin archetype for. (think no more lay on hands , but smiting causes more damage and heals the paladin.) a personnality cult was born amidst the paladins, priests, and people we saved on the way of the crusade, which rapidly devolved into a full on cult, as my character began to give powers to her followers as a result of mythic power. Her cohort is a young girl she saved from demonrape hell and that is now basically the pope of that new religion.
I don't know where this is headed but i like the sound of it.
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>>52900968
I intend to do everyone eventually. Even the memes.

>>52901227
Even the memes.

Yamelia Behrendt

>Hey it's Toobie.
>Fuckdoll homunculus created by a horny old wizard.
>Wizard got thrashed by a dragon in an epic battle before she was finished.
>She wakes up, imprints on the dragon.
>Serves as a guard for his hoard.
>Fucks up, gets her eyes melted.
>Sent off to get the dragon's treasure back from the empire.

I don't know how serious the app is, and I think it's been said that Argentum can't even play, so whatever. This is a pretty interesting character nonetheless. It's unfinished, but the writing that is there is solid. It's entertaining and I think it fits the tone of the campaign pretty well. Without more to go on, I can only give speculative advice.

Personality is going to be an issue I feel. Yamelia is a homunculus created solely to serve a master, so being robotic is to be expected, at least at the beginning. If she does not at least have the seeds of a personality, she's going to be very dull to actually play with.

Gorynych might be difficult to handle. Yamelia's motivations are basically entirely dependent on him. It would be nice for there to be a bit more distance between the two. I think she's going to have an issue actually forming a unit with other party members otherwise.

>Fluff 2/5, unfinished, what's there is a good story, but not necessarily a good character
>Crunch 4/5, another full-initiator and mid-caster. Again, kind of hard to not be useful with that set-up.
>Villainy 3/5, loyal servant of an evil dragon. Wants to steal her master's treasure back from the empire. I see a solid start but not a lot of room for growth as a villain.
>Cuteness 4/5, it's 2B.
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>>52901519
Because there's nothing else to fucking talk about. Paizo content? Done it all backwards and forwards three times. Playtests? Spheres of Might is DOA-no, Dead Before Arrival, despite Jolly's attempts to save it. Avowed is the Avowed, people are still waiting on the next batch of updates and/or the damn thing to just COME OUT ALREADY. Spheres of Power playtests? Barely anything worth talking about. Builds? Guides have people covered, and if someone DARE ask if it's possible to make something like throwing weapons viable, they get told to fuck off when they're disappointed that you basically have to be an Arsenal Chaplain Warpriest to make it remotely "viable".
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>tfw missed Blingmaker picks
>tfw you're never gonna Branwen Branwen's Branwens or Wubu Wubu's Wubu

It's like Bonbon all over again!
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Rolled 21 (1d33)

>>52901581
Derp, forgot to roll. This will be the last one for now, but I'll probably do a couple more later tonight.
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So what paizio stuff is even coming out in the near future.
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>>52901408
>>52901519

I just really like stories, and I really like seeing people make characters that they and others care about. Half the reason I come to /tg/ is for stories, and in return I share any that I am a part of since I know someone will enjoy them.

I don't waifu people because I'm a /u/fag. I don't ship anyone either though, unlike some other people here, I just like extra-like reading about relationships that would be related to that.
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>>52901505
That would require me knowing which gentials Olivianon has, anon. I do not posess such scrying ability. Trust me, if I did I would certainly use them for that purpose.
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>>52901609

Ultimate Wilderness and Starfinder.
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>>52901519
The application processes for these games are months long popularity contests. People get too invested in the quality (or lack thereof) of the apps everybody's talking about. By the time picks are made, people either love or hate the chosen apps. They either clamor for greentexts because they want to see their favorites succeed or their enemies fail.
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>>52901581
>I intend to do everyone eventually.
I've heard that before but you've never actually made good on this claim as far as I can remember. Now you're reviewing an app for someone that can't even play? Come on, man.
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>>52901581
>>Cuteness 4/5, it's 2B.
>4/5

How could you.
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>>52901617
Pretty sure Olivianon is guy.
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I hate my life and I didn't even apply. It's just nice to know if I did I would still have no fucking hope sometimes.
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>>52901605
>Aeshma

Oh boy oh boy, poor reviewanon doesn't know what he's gotten himself into
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>>52901627
You got me. I don't even apply to /pfg/ games, I only come to these threads for the horse racing.
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>>52901446

I appreciate what I think is an offer for constructive feedback, but I don't really want to out myself. Thank you though.

That said, I find the word 'boring' to be... vague. Some people use it to mean anyone they can't ship with the other applicants, or isn't packed to the gills with memes.
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>>52901625
I'm actually really excited for Starfinder. At very, truly minimum, it'll have some variant rules and systems that we can slap into Pathfinder and roll with; the best examples being working gun rules, the new races, the stamina system, and the Kinetic and Energy divide for Armor Class.
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>>52901641
Wouldn't it be the treant app?
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>>52901519

Trust me, I've tried to get these threads to share and discuss about past games, post artwork, or just about anything else that could be Pathfinder creativity.

Nobody bites. They don't want to talk about anything other than meme characters and fap over 'what-if' scenarios about these meme characters.

If you want to talk about something else related to pathfinder, don't even bring it up on a slow day. Just make an entirely separate thread.
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I want to see the cat and the gnoll get into Overlewd, to be honest.
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>>52901625
Is bestiary six already out or soon?
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>>52901665
Nonsense, we shitpost over STR vs DEX all the time.

STRfags grasping at straws and on suicide watch.
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>>52900262
You came in during memes.

The fact that it does what other classes do but better is the main selling point: Avenger gives you sweeter toys and more social/downtime stuff than its closest competitors (the other Full BAB noncasters). Teisatsu does Ninja better (when Ninja was already an improvement on the Rogue), the Lone Ranger archetype makes you generically a better Cavalier than the Cavalier, if you focus on mounted combat, and Warlock kicks the crap out of Eldritch Scoundrel Rogue.
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>>52901306
I want to have sexual relations with that Grand Blue
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>>52901674
MUSCLEMETA IN DECLINE, SELL STOCKS. BLINGMAKER CO. CLOSING DOORS, MOVE YOUR PORTFOLIO TO OVERLEWD INC.
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>>52901672
tomorrow
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>>52901665

Here, artwork.

Now tell me about your last game before I kill you.
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>>52901654
Olivia was 18 on the dice, he rolled 21, and 3 after Olivia is Aeshma afaik. Unless he's using some hidden list only he can see.

>>52901665
Bitch there's only so many times you can talk about old games before it turns into the same shit, especially when games are typically on a weekly basis and often don't even happen every week.
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>>52901369
I can be your girl for the right price
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>>52901670
t. Rory
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>>52901674
>Strfags always crying even though they can deal the highest damage

How cucked can you get?
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>>52901726
>he values damage
how's life in t5?
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>>52901726
>damage
Who cares?
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>>52901701
>>52901665
I've shared my stories plenty of times before and rarely ever get (You)s. But that's okay, because sometimes I do, and sometimes I get to have a fun conversation. You gotta fish to catch fish.

>>52901712
Wubu is that you? Don't you have a game to be running now?
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>>52901705

>Bitch there's only so many times you can talk about old games before it turns into the same shit

>Bitch there's only so many times you can talk about meme characters before it turns into the same shit
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>>52901740
>G-good luck c-carrying your stuff without my 18 str!
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So how do I go about getting Tiny Helpers like in the OP image? Are there Maids willing to work at 5 inches tall?
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>>52901765
>being a literal mule for the party

Don't forget to put up my tent, and your little cucktent. I'll be sharing mine with the bard tonight.
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>>52900167

Franze confirmed to become a heavily-armored tank, wearing the finest power armor from Numeria?
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>>52901755

Congradulations anon, you discovered the entropy of the internet and human interest.

Now let's discuss which character we want to be balls deep inside of?
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>>52901479
I wouldn't say so. I'm fairly heterosexual, probably more than average here, but I've made exclusively opposite sex apps.
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>>52901799
literally every single THICC character in every single pfg game, ever
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>>52901771
There are tiny genies or fey you can summon as familiars. That's pretty much as close to the op image you're gonna get.

I like the little genies, forgot what they were called.
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>>52901799
I want to be balls deep inside of __(you)__
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>>52901755
>anons are thirsty for greentexts
>if some random anon's storytime is good and/or popular, people will meme the fuck out of it
>just like they'll shitpost about meme characters from a game's application process

really gets that grey matter gurgling
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>>52901787
>tfw to intelligent to use dex
What's it like to do less damage than me?
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>>52901634
But anon, it's not 9S
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>>52901819
Whats it like to get hit by enemy attacks.
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>>52901587
>tfw you're never gonna Branwen Branwen's Branwens

Consider PMing
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>>52900434
Kill yourself. It's the only way to avoid further heartbreak.
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>>52901809
Sounds like good options. Wouldn't mind having a tiny person around to keep things clean.
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>>52901719
>implying
>not just someone that wants to see a huge gnoll and a small cat interact

Fuck off, maybe I just like seeing extremely tall women.
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>>52901605

Calesedria

>Alright, a sexy plant-girl.
>Or not.
>Most of the treants were uprooted during the conflict between Dondoran and the fey.
>Caly was young, had a heart filled with hope and a head filled with empty, and stayed behind.
>Scared and apparently injured, decided blood is mostly water so it should be fine to drink, yeah?
>Turns into some kind of vampire-tree punch-girl, roving around the forest thrashing people to get at their delicious juice.
>In a moment of clarity, sets her sights on the empire, as it is the root of her problems.

Calesedria has a lot of impact, and is one of the few truly "monstrous" apps. Her backstory is short but gets to the point and sets up her basic origins pretty well. Where I feel she needs improvement is in the details. Her broad strokes are very good, but I'm left with a number of questions.

Why exactly did she stay behind? She was young and dumb, sure, but did none of the other treants try to get her to come along?
How long was she in that blood frenzy? Her personality section says she was a lone predator for many years, was she only trying to get more blood during that time?
How is she going to integrate with a team when she seems pretty set in the role of a lone wolf?

Fluff 3/5, a genuinely interesting and monstrous concept, but I really think it needs a bit more work put into the more nitty-gritty parts.
>Crunch 3/5, tentative score as there is no character sheet to look at. Medic and treant should be an interesting combo. Depending on how long she intends to stick with the monster class, I worry that she may lack a bit of breadth, but will probably make up for that by being a huge blood-sucking tree.
>Villainy 4/5, again, huge blood-sucking tree. Her motivations are a bit weak, but her core concept is just fucking perfect.
>Cuteness 2/5, I like her skirt thing, but she scares the shit out of me.
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>>52901752
>Wubu is that you?

Not even close, cur. How do you ever expect to become a wealthy lord if you can't tell me apart from that slattern?
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>>52901584
>Builds? Guides have people covered, and if someone DARE ask if it's possible to make something like throwing weapons viable, they get told to fuck off when they're disappointed that you basically have to be an Arsenal Chaplain Warpriest to make it remotely "viable".

This is what kills me. I love talking about dumb gimmick builds but every time I try to get a discussion going it's ~3 replies (at most) before everyone goes back to shitposting about the newest meme campaign captain autism and his buddies are running. It's so depressing.

The worst feeling is when you write out this long detailed post about a fun build you've been thinking of, with numbers and reasoning and even personal experiences from a recent campaign to back it up, only to get a single reply from some sperg who didn't even read your post beyond "throwing weapon" or "poison" calling you a retard and telling you to read a guide because your build sucks.

Guides are great for optimizing but in my experience they're garbage for anyone looking to try anything unique. Then again, based on what I've been hearing ad nauseam from /pfg/, unless you're playing a tier 1 class with an optimized build you're going to be useless and no one is going to want to play with you ever again.
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>>52901915
>>Or not.
Says you.
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>>52901890
>4'6" next to 8'(?)~

why did you have to make me look
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>>52901584
>Spheres of Might is DOA-no, Dead Before Arrival, despite Jolly's attempts to save it.

Why can't WE talk about it and try to save Spheres of Might?
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>>52901840
>>52901819
>tfw Quality
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>>52901923
I feel you, anon

It''s why I write guides, but I always preface it with "go with what you know in your heart of hearts would be cool"

>>52901932
I know, right?
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>>52901630
This is my first time doing reviews at all. I might not be able to do everyone before the deadline closes, especially if more apps keep rolling in, but I'll try.

>>52901634
Sorry, A2 is cuter. 9S is cutest.
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Reminder
Aurora asked for it by engaging in this kind of behavior with a known shitter like Rory
https://pastebin.com/zUGVAmbf
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>>52901755

The mindset that came with General threads created this. The moment one of these threads reaches the bump limit, about 10 minutes later, a new thread is created and the cycle starts all over again.

24 hours, 7 days a week of discussion about the topic/subject. Any and all topics that get brought up are immediately and thoroughly taken apart piece by piece by the resident autists until the next subject is called to order.

No amount of content can survive discussion for more than a day. The next Paizo book is released, and the anons here will have torn apart every feat, ability, archtype, and spell within mere hours, and soon after squeal for more like hungry piglets eager to devour more.

The only thing we've found that can stave off the squealing and violent attitudes is discussion of "Game of the Week" characters and who we'd like for them to adventure with.

Welcome to the new /pfg/.
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>>52901923

I've read every single post in these generals over the past week and haven't seen a single "interesting" build that was something utterly obvious or asking to be spoonfed.
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>>52901665
>implying we actually PLAY this piece of shit game
>implying anyone wants to put up with the average /pfg/ poster if they did play

Look, half the reason game apps generate so much buzz is for people to vicariously play and have a group. The rest is thirst, shitposting, and good old fashioned (You) addiction.
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>>52901923
>tfw cooked up a spicey new gestalt autism build
>never going to get to play it because nobody uses gonzo II, and avowed is subject to change because it's still a playtest
>tfw never going to get to be the Dragoon I want to be
JUST
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>>52901923
To be fair, I've got some distance with having the disclaimer at the very top:

>Hi everybody, I know it isn't Optimal, but what do you think of [Build] built around [meme]? Here is some [Work] I did for it.

I usually get a few bites. Or wait until 2hu posts and talk to him. He's been pretty nice to talk to.
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>>52901959

RORY STOP
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>>52901923
Watching the conversation with the one anon who was sad that he was better off sticking to melee with Divine Fighting Technique (Desna), instead of trying to actually throw the starknives, was a sight to behold. All that because the guy apparently just wanted to use Ravener Hunter Inquisitor as-written.
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>>52901959
I regret making that image.

t. Romulus-Anon
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>>52901771
How do you know it's a tiny rabbit and not just a REALLY BIG spoon and sugar cubes?
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>>52901996
That guy is a memebuild hound.

Maybe not a hound though.
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>>52901985
>Implying

>>52902008
Update it, Crytha is at 7'11" now
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>>52901974
>Or wait until 2hu posts and talk to him. He's been pretty nice to talk to.
Why would you talk to autistic cancer who does nothing but fap to RAW?
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>>52902013
How else am I supposed to hold her close, scratch her ears on cold nights, and set her up with a little Maid house in my cart?
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>>52902030
>Update it, Crytha is at 7'11" now

Does she serve slushies 24/7?
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>>52902030
>1 inch below Large cutoff

Rory is such a fag
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>>52902035
Because the alternative is to talk to autistic cancer who do nothing but fap to waifus from memegames?
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>>52901819
>to intelligent
>to
Apparently not
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I need you help /pfg/. I’m playing a cleric and was wondering if you knew a way to remove harmful psionic stuff from my party members.

We went up against a psionic enemy that inflicted a madness on one of our party and using dispel magic rolled low so I tried antimagic field to at least make him stop hitting himself but the DM said both of the spells I tried to use didn’t work because psionics don’t work the same as magic, so I just gimped myself for nothing. After fighting that one enemy we are gonna infiltrate his home base which has even more psionic enemies.

I’m not familiar with psionics at all. Do you guys know of any spells I can possibly use to help protect my party from psionic enemies since normal anti magic measures don’t work?
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>>52901964
RORY FUCK OFF AND STOP POSTING THIS SHIT
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>>52901799
>Blingmaker
Branwen, Milre (smolgirls that aren't loli are my fetish), Anna, Samanhe, Yoku, Lyra, Myrna, Wubu

>Overlewd
Umbranae, Chiundra, Fierna, Ecatrina (Ghostgrils are also my thing), Helvetica (see above), Cijiska, Ingrid

>>52901923
You're really not wrong, and I've been there before but I've also been guilty of not replying to someone else because I'm busy or tired or just not interested. I worry sometimes about thread quality and although I don't really ride the DISCORD CABAL train, I do have to mention that it's waaay easier to get build advice over in the Discord than it is here. The Discord is weird, I think it's had both good and bad effects. It's certainly increased the clique-iness of /pfg/ which is bad, but at the same time it seems like it's actually possible to have reasonable discussions over there too. Was the IRC the same way? Is the IRC the same way now? I have no idea if it still gets used.

>>52901918
All you sluts look the same from behind. And my dreams of wealth disappeared when Blingmaker set sail without me.

Also these captcha are getting weirder and weirder. Now I have to pick all the signs and then say what kind of sign they are?
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>>52901996
Wait, DFT (Desna) works for melee and ranged. It would also make a WIS based class CHA MAD.

...You get the feeling that the reason it's a bad idea to ask /pfg/ for build advice is because they have no idea what they're talking about?
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>>52902049
That's roleplaying.
2hu is just number crunching build wanking.
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>>52902030
I have nothing better to do anyway.

Size code: m208.3_m139.7_f241.3_f152.4
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>>52902083
He hasn't given any issues in the 4e threads. I'm pretty sure he is responsible for the Triple Vampire, Double Werewolf build.

Just give him some conditions and feed back and he's been pretty nice.
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>>52900428
>Alright folks, that's in. The final Blingmaker party is:

Party heights in order.
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Is there any way to get Desna's Shooting Star on a paladin?
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>>52902077
But how do you fuck a ghost?
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>>52902115

Take the feat?
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>>52902108
>4e threads
I've never seen 2hu post there.
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>>52902056
Dude its not roryanon

He's a retard but he's not that stupid
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>>52902121
>Lawful Good
>Desna is Chaotic Good
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>>52902055
>since normal anti magic measures don’t work?
They do as per Transparency rule
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>>52902081
Ravener Hunter gives access to Oracle Mysteries. The anon in question thought it'd be fun to take a mystery that swapped Dex for Cha so he could dump Str AND Dex. His problems came when he realized he wouldn't actually be able to use the "thrown" part of starknives as anything but a last resort in most scenarios as a singleclassed Inquisitor until waaaay lategame, leaving just the Melee part of DFT.
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>>52902077
>FIERNA
>ITS THE SAME ROLL20 NORMIE THAT GOT INTO WWW

HE HAS BEEN UNLEASHED

CAN HE BE STOPPED?
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>>52901959
Where do you post your guides? Can I read them? Maybe they'll give me an idea for a new character.

>>52901968
That's the thing with you people. You've got this weird stick up your ass about people posting for build advice. Someone coming in here asking for feedback on a build they came up with isn't asking to be spoonfed, it's asking for feedback. I'm here every day and the vast majority of completely reasonable posts are met with REEEEEEEEEEEEE REEEEEEEEEEE READ A GUIDE REEEEEE WE WON'T SPOONFEED YOU REEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

Why even reply? Is it bait? Are you just upset someone came in and interrupted the popularity contest to talk about the actual game for once? I don't understand.

>>52901973
Post about it anyway, man. You might only get a few replies but if everyone gave it a shot once in a while maybe it would drown out some of the shitposting.

>>52901974
I'll have to try that. I've had close to zero luck generating any discussion about build ideas I've had. Maybe it's just a bad time of year, it never really felt quite this bad before.

>>52902077
I'm usually pretty weird about Discord in general, but I guess I'll have to give it a shot one of these days. I haven't actually been on the IRC in months (or years? I'm not sure, it's been a long while), so I can't really speak to the quality of that. I know it used to be good, at least.
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>>52902077
Milre was perfection.

Any word on why there was a rejection?
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>>52902055
Well hit him with a rolled up copy of Psionics Unleashed for one, since it assumes psionic-magic transparency as standard. If that doesn't work, lube up for the DM assfucking you're about to get.

Lesser Restoration should be able to remove most things thrown at you after the fact. Forcing concentration checks works like it were regular magic. There's also just killing the bastards first.
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>>52902142
So what exactly is the transparency rule?
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>>52902152
That app sucks so probably
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>>52902055
Normally the two systems have a transparency rule; both effectively count as the same thing. But considering they didn't it's either that they don't, meaning your GM is a cock, or your being railroaded into something, meaning your GM is a cock.
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>>52902044
Maybe if you ask nicely, slave

>>52902132
Seconded. The guy is dumb as a sack of rocks but he isn't dumb enough to continuously call /pfg/'s attention back to this. The only reason those logs are still being posted is because someone decided to go on a witch hunt on Rory Anon
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>>52902165

There has not been a single reasonable build request, most of them get answered anyway.
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>>52902144
But DFT for Desna works for melee or ranged?
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>>52902055
I want to become familiar with psionics but nobody else ever wants to use it when I play with them.

But if your DM isn't using Magic/Psionics transparency you're probably fucked. I don't know that "Dispel Psionics" is a power DSP made since they assume transparency in their stuff. Best you can do if it doesn't exist is to bring the point up to your DM that transparency is meant to be used and that if it isn't being used you should at least be able to attempt to research or create a spell IC that can break psionic effects.

>>52902152
>>52902178
I'll be honest, those two lists had nothing to do with what's in the apps. Just went off those pictures.

>>52902112
Huh, Branwen is shorter than I'd have expected.

>>52902118
Ghost touch works.
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>>52902194

Throwing is just a garbage combat style because of range increments and needing a blinkback belt
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>>52902165
I don't actually have that many guides written up, primarily because I had a lull in making them- but I'd rather not post them. I'm rereading them and looking back on it, they're poorly written. I think I'll write a Slayer guide- the most recent one doesn't have ANY new archetypes.

>>52902098
Delicious
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>>52902189
>There has not been a single reasonable build request

this is how you know it's bait, anon
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>>52902194
Yes, and? Thrown weapons are really shitty. I'm pretty sure the only "good" build with them is a Warpriest with the Human FCB for "MORE FEATS", because otherwise the game will be over before your build even starts to work. The dude would literally have been better off going for TWF rather than Thrown.
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>>52902176
Essentially someone using magic can resist psionics as if it were the same as magic and vice versa.
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>>52902171
Just taking a guess, but IIRC Milre's schedule was pretty narrow if you carve off the times that the DM wasn't available to run. So maybe that?

>>52902165
I don't like IRCs but the Discord seems like an okay place to hang out. Like I said before, it's actually a better place to ask for advice about PF than /pfg/ is now. I don't know if I believe the rumors that its existence ruined the threads though.
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>>52902176
Psionics–Magic Transparency: Though not explicitly called out in the spell descriptions or magic item descriptions, spells, spell-like abilities, and magic items that could potentially affect psionics do affect psionics.
When the rule about psionics–magic transparency is in effect, it has the following ramifications.
Spell resistance is effective against powers, using the same mechanics. Likewise, power resistance is effective against spells, using the same mechanics as
spell resistance. If a creature has one kind of resistance, it is assumed to have the other. (The effects have similar ends despite having been brought about by different means.)
All spells that dispel magic have equal effect against powers of the same level using the same mechanics, and vice versa.
The spell detect magic detects powers, their number, and their strength and location within 3 rounds (though a Spellcraft check is necessary to identify the discipline of the psionic aura), while detect psionics detects spells, their number, and their strength and location within 3 rounds (though a Spellcraft check is necessary to identify the school of magic).
Dead magic areas are also dead psionics areas.
Powers or psionic effects usually work as described no matter how many other powers, psionic effects, spells, or magical effects happen to be operating in the same area or on the same recipient. Except in special cases, a power does not affect the way another power or spell operates. Whenever a power has a specific effect on other powers or spells, the power description explains the effect (and vice versa for spells that affect powers). Several other general rules apply when powers, spells, magical effects, or psionic effects operate in the same place.
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>>52902172
The reason I asked was because after we killed the enemy the madness stayed on the other player so i had to cast heal to remove the insanity. I was hoping to find a way to protect the party from some of the psionic fuckery that gets through and I can only cast heal 3 times and who knows how many others psionics are going to be in that base.

Since the DM claims psionics don't work the same as magic, I was wondering if there might be an antimagic equivalent that affects them and not us.
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>>52902176
It's the clause in Psionics that states that the two interact normally.
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>>52902144
Yeah, that's a problem. Can't qualify for any of the later ranged feats or the hurling feats if you sink STR and DEX.

Trying to get cute with secondary statting CHA for Sidestep Secret alikes wouldn't fix the qualification issues, unless they went for DEX anyway and decided on a funky DEX to damage gimmick, which would invalidate Sidestep Secret and the whole CHA to everything meme they were trying to pull, iirc.

It was directly anti-synergistic.
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>>52902250
Discords ruin threads because the actual discussion is a bit easier to track there, so the only thing left for generals is shitposts.
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>>52902279
Is that why it's so much worse here these days?
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>>52902176
(cont)
Powers that provide bonuses or penalties on attack rolls, damage rolls, saving throws, and other attributes usually do not stack with themselves. More generally, two bonuses of the same type don’t stack even if they come from different powers, or one from a power and one from a spell. You use whichever bonus gives you the better result.

Unless specifically mentioned in a power’s description, a power cannot be counterspelled when it is being manifested, nor can powers be used to counterspell a spell as it is being cast.
Unless specifically stated otherwise, feats such as metamagic feats that specifically affect spells do not affect powers, and feats such as metapsionic feats that specifically affect powers do not affect spells.

>For the purpose of psionics–magic transparency, clairsentience powers are equivalent to powers of the divination school (thus, creatures immune to divination spells are also immune to clairsentience powers).
>For the purpose of psionics–magic transparency, metacreativity powers are equivalent to powers of the conjuration school (thus, creatures immune to conjuration spells are also immune to metacreativity powers).
>For the purpose of psionics–magic transparency, psychokinesis powers are equivalent to spells of the evocation school (thus, creatures immune to evocation spells are also immune to psychokinesis powers).
>For the purpose of psionics– magic transparency, psychometabolism powers are equivalent to powers of the transmutation school (thus, creatures immune to transmutation spells are also immune to psychometabolism powers).
>For the purpose of psionics–magic transparency, psychoportation powers do not have an equivalent school.
>For the purpose of psionics–magic transparency, telepathy powers are equivalent to powers of the enchantment school (thus, creatures resistant to enchantment spells are equally resistant to telepathy powers).
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>>52902293
Yes. Though it should be stated that the discord didn't really pick up steam until some time after dragons 1 picks.
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>>52902275
There was the option of using Sanctified Slayer to skip prereqs with the Slayer Talents, but the issue is that you would not get enough slayer talents to get all the ranger style feats you need. Nor even get all the feats you actually needed, since most Combat Style Lists don't actually feature all the feats you need for each style.

The whole thing is kind of a clusterfuck that would lock the character into a melee focus.
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>>52902216
This is part of why I get so frustrated when people to tell me to go read a guide. Most of the best guides are still pretty out of date. If I have questions about a build or archetype that didn't even exist when the guide was last updated, chances are reading a guide isn't going to do shit to help me.

>>52902307
That's sad. I used to like it here.
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>>52902271
Antipsionic Field is a thing, but I don't know how you're going to get it if your DM has sprung psionics on you like this.

If you have downtime, you're gonna have to go shopping. I suggest for a DM who isn't a piece of shit.
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>>52901918
If you're not the slutty Blingmaker DM, who are you?
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>>52902328
GitP and the reddit are occasionally okay for those new stuff, but honestly. the 3 replies you do get on /pfg/ are worth way more.
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>>52902328

People don't ask specific enough questions

"What are good feats for an archer"

That's guide territory. Half the time they get spoonfed anyway!
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>>52902246
>>52902268
>>52902272
>>52902304
Well I'm definitely going to bring this up with the DM. The thing he mentioned about psionics as an example was if a mindflayer and a beholder were in the same room, the beholder's antimagic gaze wouldn't affect the mindflayer because it's not using magic. maybe that's true in other D&D systems but it's starting to look like it's not true in pathfinder.
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>>52902171
Because the GM doesn't care what gets your dick hard?
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>>52902352
The other problem with guides is that /pfg/'s tastes for 3pp are usually not covered by anything at all. 2hu's autism is literally the best we get.
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>>52902328
>>52902352
>>52902387
Quite frankly, this is a tiny part of why Vigilante is my favorite class. The motherfucker doing the best guide for it tries to keep on top of things, and he's even branched out into Jolly's stuff! A guide writer branched out into 3pp! Sure his ratings aren't always spot on, but damn if it's not a good jumping off point!
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>>52902387
There's a few guides on maneuvers on GitP, but... I'm honestly tempted to look INTO the better sections of 3pp and provide guides and insight on request.
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>>52902387
Or Jolly pimping the people that pay him.
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>>52902387

People asking for build help never even say what sources are allowed, they don't list starting level, starting wealth, stats, anything.

Thread OP's should have a big disclaimer;

!!!FOR BUILD ADVICE LIST LEVEL, GEAR, PARTY, STATS, HOUSE RULES & SOURCES ALLOWED!!!
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>>52902416
We had that for a while but the two lines it took up, with all the playtests we put in made the OP an eyesore more than it already is.
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>>52902440

It would be worth it so that all the "muh build advice" shit posters would shut the fuck up
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>>52902416
Quick, concise questions are far more likely to get replies than a post that reaches the character limit explaining every relevant detail.

The problem is that when you include all necessary information, your post becomes a wall of text that no one wants to take the time to read.
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>>52902356
Wubu's not a very good slutty DM if she doesn't care about that! I like the party that got in though so I'm excited for greentexts even if there is no Milre


>>52902416
Wait, I swear we use to have that in the OP. Why did it get taken out? Not that anybody ever really read the OP, but still.

>>52902216
I've thought about writing some class guides, actually, but I lost the enthusiasm for the idea a while back. I was going to make a guide for the magus. I don't know if it's even worth bothering with considering how much the class gets shit on now a days. On the other hand, we get a lot of people asking for advice about the Magus so it would be good to have something to point them to.
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>>52902448
They didn't read the OP then, and they won't now.
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>>52902112
Branwen needs a hug and the anal half Nelson
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>>52902387
2hu autism literally doesn't matter at all.
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>>52902460
There's a more recently updated magus guide on GitP, Kurald's or something. I generally use that as a reference. I'm more interested in someone gathering up guides for all the weird 3pp stuff that is posted on the SoP wiki- strange magic, runesmithing, the new iteration of truenaming, etc., etc. I haven't seen ANYBODY use them.
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>>52902460
There's a guide on GitP for Magus that's pretty good, even though it pretty much points at the typical Dervish Dance/Shocking Grasp build. If you wanted to do a Magus Guide, you'd honestly have to go digging and do in-depth explanations for spells to try to find other potential spells to focus on. At that point it kinda... Ceases to be worth the effort.
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>>52902460
>>52902511
Everyone knows Eldritch Archer is just the flat-out best Magus. Don't fall for weird weapon finesse melee junk.
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>>52902555
>>52902555
>>52902555
>>52902555
>>52902555
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>>52902535
>muh bows

bows take just as long if not longer to come online, and are just as bullshit in how uniform the builds involving them are. The only saving grace is that chances are you're just going to throw the spell instead of attempt to shoot it, since you can't try to hit again if it misses.
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>>52902589
>bows take just as long if not longer to come online
Fucking WHAT? They are making a full attack from TURN 1 at LEVEL 1, from total goddamn safety and with a better weapon. Every early Magus problem is solved by them, what the fuck dude.
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>>52902644
?

No they're not. They have to get at least 3 feats before they can really do that
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>>52902644
They can fire one arrow and cast a spell at level 1 by taking a -2 penalty. At 2nd level they could fire two arrows at penalty instead of casting a spell. Yippee. By the time a game starts for real, the melee magus will have Bladed Dash, making your point moot.
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>>52902713
And they're still getting the standard + spell attack + held touch attack gimmick off with a bow or a melee weapon. The trick is finding something you can hold charge on that also counts as a ranged (touch) attack.

Replace Bladed Dash with Scorching Ray or something for the spell attack.
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>>52901840
There are pretty significant differences between Strength and Dexterity focused martial characters, but AC really isn't one of them. Dex characters have better Initiative and Reflex saves. Strength characters have better damage, are more capable at ranged combat, and don't have to spend money on Muleback Cords to avoid being encumbered by basic equipment, weapons, and armor.
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