Pathfinder General /pfg/

>>52885157
Jeremiah Johnson is a really great movie.

>>52885157
Weaponized carrying capacity to an absurd degree.

Last time I checked he could hoist entire cities

What kind of character should have Bred for War as a trait? Would warlike semi-nomads count?

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>>52885157
Here's to you, man.

>>52885196
If you're strong enough to carry around a house, aren't you technically strong enough to use the house as a bludgeoning weapon? Or at least drop it on some fool.

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>>52885157
>When's the last time you've done something in a campaign that earned the respect and admiration of either your group, NPCs or even the players themselves?

Never QvQ

>>52885157
Never. That's never happened ingame. Or at the game table. Or among friends. Or just ever in my life.

>>52885157
I'm playing two different 1pp kineticists because I want to, and one's a Chirurgen.

>>52885185
It was! I liked it a lot. I need to watch it again soon, come to think of it. It's been awhile.

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>>52885217

That is a nice smile.

>want to build around aether blade
>but I also want to spend a lot of time in a form with no hands
>don't know how reasonable trying to go Sif-mode would be unless I spent a feat for it, but I'm strapped for feats
>ALSO not sure how big of a fag I would be for constantly dissipating it so I could redraw it every turn for Mithral Current

The dilemmas

>>52885258
If you'd like to expand your Redfordkino, I also recommend Three Days of the Condor.

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>>52885272
This one is better.

>>52885218
Using it as a weapon is a weird thing since it's technically an improperly sized weapon, and all sorts of other bullshit

Dropping it on someone though? Totally kosher. Nothing feels better than knowing you can, if you want to, clear a dungeon by shaking it like a giant rattle or wipe out a medium-sized country by dropping a literal comet onto it.

>>52885162
Well there's the casting Bard, the fighting Bard and the roguish Bard.

Casting Bards go Magician and take advantage of the strong party buffs, Enchantments and Illusions they get, supplementing with sor/wiz spells.

Fighting Bards go Arcane Duelist, Arrowsong Minstrel or Dervish of Dawn/Dawnflower Dervish to take advantage of those strong buffs being turned inwards. They grab a one handed weapon and go Dexterity, or pick up a bow/reach weapon. The recent Emo Bard archetype can actually switch between party and self buffs.

Roguish Bards go Archaeologist and take advantage of their large set of skill points, ability to enhance checks, and Use Magic Device to fill in various roles. There's also Sandman, but Archaeologist is better.

>>52885284
I'll check it out! The trailer has me hooked already!

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I want to play as a pair of twins.

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>>52885157
Well, let's see.

>First Campaign: 5 STR Halfling Gunslinger is the only one to succeed on a Climb check all game, as well as holding her liquor well enough to impress the townsfolk

>Second Campaign: Finding consistent uses for Throw Anything as a 4'10" Brawler. Also, knocking out the 6'2" Druid in a single punch during the fighting tournament that started the game.

>Third Campaign: Pulled off a "creepy little girl" voice for my Gnome Spiritualist. Everyone was more than a little disturbed.

>Fourth Campaign: Nothing, but my Dhampir Inquisitor seemed to be received well.

>Fifth Campaign: Not so much respect as "becoming a meme." I've talked about this one before, but I never escaped a combat without hitting 0 HP or lower.

>Sixth Campaign: Who knows? Maybe someday. Hoping for a RYU GA WAGA TEKI WO KURAU moment, but no guarantees.

>>52885334

Which one is the most suited to be the face of the group?

>>52885315
What are the stats for dropping a comet on a small country? Surely it's not just 20d6 of damage for the object hitting the ground.

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>>52885353
Dvati from dragon compendium.

>>52885157
The first time I did it, it saved my character's life and earned him the respect and friendship of the party's resident intellectual rogue/dickass thief. He and the rogue got ambushed and the rogue basically ran off when things started looking sketchy. In the end, my PC pretty much solo'd an encounter that was meant for the whole party, but when he and the rogue started traveling back to the rest of the party my character could tell that the rogue was thinking of killing him to steal his stuff. They were still strangers to each other at the time, and he WAS terribly injured.

So my PC took his Necklace of Fireballs (a magic item where each bead of the necklace can be thrown to detonate like a Fireball spell) and put it in his mouth, then scribbled down a note and handed it to the rogue. It basically said. "I know you're probably thinking of killing me, so I've placed those explosives you saw me using earlier in my mouth and if you stab me I'm going to bite down before I die." The rogue looked back at my PC in disbelief, my PC gave him a cheeky smile to prove he wasn't bluffing, and the rogue called him, "a bitch, but a clever bitch" and then offered to buy him a round of drinks when they got back to town because he was impressed.

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>>52885383
Literally rocks fall, everyone dies.

It FUCKING BULLSHIT

>>52885353

A worthy goal, especially with judicious use of 80s hair.

https://youtu.be/WLy5lSm4HQo

>>52885383
>Comet.
>Not an asteroid but a comet.

Everyone on the planet dies.

>>52885383

How do we know you're not a Veiled Master?

>>52885444
To be fair it wasn't actually the rock itself that killed everything, if that was the case it would have stripped the planet of its crust and literally nothing would have survived. No, the non-nuclear fallout afterwards that cooled the planet significantly due to the clouds of dust in the air did the deed.

>>52885470
Depends on how fast it's going when it hits, if the moon landed on the Earth from a foot away it would only take out a chunk of the planet the size of Australia.

>>52885491
Trust me, I only cover my face because people kept reeling back in horror.

Should I drop out of one game to join another?

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When will a new game open up that allows for comfy apps, /pfg/?

>>52885548
Do you want to?

>>52885548
Is the spot in the new game confirmed? Do you like the current game?

>>52885561
I can advertise a comfy game for everyone, love, I just can't guarantee running it.

>>52885566
I kinda do.

>>52885568
Yes, and while I like the people I'm really struggling to enjoy the game itself.

>>52885590
What sort of game would you bamboozle with, Anon?

>>52885596
no game is a better than a bad game.

>>52885596
>I kinda do.
Then do it.

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So I guess we have to wait until tomorrow to find out who Wubu is picking for Blingmaker after all. Why must we suffer like this?

>>52885643
But is tomorrow.

>>52885643
Read some ReLife in the mean time! Or Mousou telepathy!

>>52885643
It's tomorrow where I'm at. East side, baby!

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>>52885548
>>52885596

>>52885643
Wubu is probably busy PLEASING MEN FOR MONEY. I mean, come on. Wubu clearly got money on the mind.

How useful is fascinating groups of enemies?

>>52885711
Amazing for out of combat, states in the rules that it's useless for in-combat unless stated otherwise.

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>>52885699
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQrdKtPJxI0


BLINGMAKER

GET HYPE

FUCK WITCHES GET PAID

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>>52885711
I wish you would fascinate me instead, anon.

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>>52885654
You're a smart person.

>>52885606
Not that anon, but I'd bamboozle /pfg/ with a game about being young witches/wizards in a boarding school for witchcraft and wizardry to help test my homebrew magic system.

Comfy hogwarts campaign.

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I do feel better now having gotten some shit posting out of the way now. Night night, loves.

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>>52885769

Goodnight, anon.

Do you remember love, /pfg/?

>>52885813
It hasn't even been two months, Anon. It still burns me if I touch it in its dark cave deep inside my mind where I've tried to bury it.

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>>52885813
When I think of love all I can think about is all the friends I've yet to meet!

>>52885822
What happened, anon?

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>>52885813
I unironically think this is one of the greatest songs of all time.

>>52885359
>I never escaped a combat without hitting 0 HP or lower.
Oh hey codon friend

>>52885827
She revealed her treacherous affair with one of my best friends and left after seven years together. It was life-shattering; it's the reason I'm here again after years away. I'm very, very good at sealing it away most of the time; my therapist calls them intellectual defenses, but sometimes it breaks out and floods my mind with maddening emotion.

But at least I've gotten to play with some really nice people here now. It's very interesting; I'm glad I've had the opportunity.

>>52885851
Fuck off Minshit.

https://youtu.be/eAc9X-F_j9U?t=201

>>52885851
This song?

https://youtu.be/ER97mPHhgtM

>>52885904
Look, I don't have to like minmay to like the song. Or do you not want to have a nice slow dance in a gentle embrace with your waifu by the fireplace, faggot.

>>52885928
I don't.

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>>52885935
s-same.

>>52885768
Fuck that run LWA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdd9b47x67M

Speaking of fireplaces, do any of your character own property? Do they have a cozy shack somewhere with a fireplace they can sit next to and weep bitterly, alone, without (You) by their side.

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>>52886029
iktf

>>52885813
What's that?

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>You gain the Conceal Spell feat as a bonus feat without needing to meet the prerequisites.

>The whispers of intrigue sing to you with glimpses of insight into others’ presence and motives, granting you greater awareness than your own senses could manage. You can add your Charisma modifier instead of your Wisdom bonus on Perception and Sense Motive checks.

Which would you choose at 1st level?

Alternatively, if you don't like either of them, which of these appeal to you the most? Since most of them seem roleplaying focused I'm not entirely sure how to prioritize them.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/oracle/mysteries/paizo-oracle-mysteries/intrigue-oracle-mystery/

>>52886050
A great movie that everyone should watch.

>>52886029
My character would like to own a lot of property, if they get into Blingmaker that dream might become reality. MAKE MY DREAMS COME TRUE WUBU.

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>>52886044
I hope you don't mind, but here's a (You) and a headpat. Cheer up, okay?

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>>52886075
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RogC-7p_F5Y

Best watch out for the Gold Diggers, Anon. Even if you get in, there's no guarantee you'll be safe from ALIMONY

>>52885643
So if the blingmaker party ends up being nothing but ladies what kind of princes will be fit for our princesses? Anybody care to hazard a guess at what kind of men the female blingmakers fancy?

Milre wants a devoted patriot that's still an earthly, rustic man. Someone who can sweep her off her feet sore as they are from heels probably sweep her off them literally. Useful business connections a plus.

Viviana would want a man that's in a rough spot, someone to pull out of the darkness like she was. But he's gotta have potential, he's gotta have a spark in him somewhere that shows her something to believe in.

Sofia needs a man that will indulge her crazy tastes, but one that's hearty and strong, someone that she's confident could overpower her so she can feel safe that she won't go too far again. He needs to be well-off too, not necessarily rich but at least affluent. Probably a good knight.

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>>52886122
And one for (you)

>>52886141

I think Sofia would want young inexperienced men to prey on.

>>52886223
Even though they're totally stupid, I still think the drills are super cute.

>>52886141
>Anna
She'd never settle for a man whose enthusiasm for progress and philosophical ideals don't match her own. He needs to have a touch of wildness to him though, she looks like the kind of girl who'd walk into a Noble Savage stereotype and walk away with her heart pounding and a flush to her cheeks.

>Seska
She needs someone who has faith in her and believes she in her, but it also has to be a powerful warrior she can respect too. Also, he gotta have the skymetal. Fuck a diamond ring, get this girl an adamantine ring.

>Myrna
tamingoftheshrew.exe

>Franze
A respectable gentleman, probably a retired adventurer or ex-guardsman. Probably has to share her vision, but not as much as with Anna. Must be past his childish years and possessing great wisdom and a calming aura, so as to sooth her psychosis and paranoia. Iroh, basically.

>Wubu
She pleases old men for money. Anybody can take her to pound town if they've got the bling, but she'll never settle down with just one unless he can make the perfect PC.

What would you buy as a 1st level character with ~1100 starting gold?

>>52886323
What class are you?

Good answers are:
>Combat Trained Heavy Horse
level 1 they're actually strong enough to be extremely relevant in combat
>MwK Armor of choice
>MwK Weapon of choice
>MwK Ranged Weapon of choice

Suggestion: All characters should have 1 free Profression only skillpoint per level. Probably restricted to a number of professions like 1-3 to split them among.

I cannot think of a single reason this isn't already a rule and can only see it improving the game.

>>52886352
Literally read the Background Skills rules. It's a better version of what you suggest.

>>52886352
You mean like Background Skills?

The Paizo-published optional rule that's actually really good and gives even people like 10 int fighters room to put ranks in things like perform or profession?

>>52886277
Taming of the shrew?

>>52886323

A farm.

>>52886348
I'm an oracle. Spell focused, so weapons aren't something I'm really looking to invest in. Armor would probably be a good idea though.

Not sure about a horse since I don't know anything about the campaign yet.

>>52886277
>>52886141
What about Antoinette?

Does Shocking Grasp's +4 to hit metal wearers affect a Magus when they're channeling the spell into their weapons? Because if so I'm going to cry at how much I let poor Shura suck for no reason.

>>52885367
All of them can do it, since Charisma is your money stat, but Caster/Roguish Bards need it most, go for that.

If I wanted to use a tower shield and shoot ray attacks, what class/style would I play to not suck?

>>52886455
I guess play a warder and trait into E-flux.

>>52886455
Forrest should make a tower shield-using Avowed archetype.

>>52886489
>cram more into avowed.
Just let the thing be ironed out and released, goddamn.

>>52886455
Psion or Sphere Caster

>>52886225

Who are the inexperienced hunks of Blingmaker?

>>52886383
>>52886386
My players didn't like Lore and expanded skills stuff when I pitched that. I guess the same thing could be accomplished by stripping down Background Skills.

>>52886277
Iroh... That would be fucking great, honestly.

>>52886507
Greg's pretty inexperienced.

>>52886507

All of them basically, Andrik has the innocent farm boy thing going on though, probably a virgin.

>>52886562
You don't have to include Lore and Artistry with Background skills you know.

You can just.

Not use them.

>>52886507
Kyras probably is, considering how little social interaction he's supposed to have and his implied crush on his surrogate big sister.

>>52886141
Rom would want someone who could understand the languid pleasures of a good book or simple downtime, but can still pull her out of a rut of over rumination. Someone distinguished, well traveled and with an air of mystery.

Nastya would want someone to coddle her and make her feel wanted, preferably a man adorned with marketable glory. If he couldn't tell his moscato from his malbec, she'd glass him with a wine bottle. He has to be able to outdrink her and not laugh at her "deific obedience"

>>52886583
I dunno, I hear he's tilled his fair share of soil between here and Restov.

>Open homebrew race to keep working on them.
>Try to finish up stats
>Accidentally spend half an hour on their racial fashion choices.

At least I decided if they should be blind with blindsight or not.

>>52886507

I've got no real idea what kind of tack I should take with Stanislaw if he gets in.

On the one hand: HE ONLY HAS EYES FOR MOMMY.

On the other, his mom's a whore in a sleazy hostess bar, and I'm pretty sure he'd have taken advantage of the easy companionship.

>>52886600
You sure about that?
Guess which thirsty bastard made an F-list the other night?

>>52886058
Anyone?

Pretty please?

>>52886650

Are there any mommy apps?

>>52886570
Inexperienced is an understatement. He's practically a wizard.

>>52886586
And I can make Knowledge skills Adventuring Skills instead of Background Skills because people take them anyway. And I can do the same for Craft because that'd just result in a bunch of discount Alchemists and Linguistics because players usually get enough languages and it's best to let smart people be smart. And if it's my group Sleight of Handle is definitely more likely to be used for adventuring shenanigans than enhancing a character.
Or, instead of introducing an optional rules system and auditing almost everything in it, why not just use a single sentence?

>>52886678

No mommies, but high quality older ladies.

I SWEAR I DIDN'T INTEND THIS WHEN I MADE STAN DUDE, I JUST MADE A CHARACTER AND IT ENDED UP THIS WAY AND THEN I REALIZED THAT THERE WERE A BILLION OTHER PSEUDO-SWORDLORDS AND OLDER WOMEN, TOO

>>52886678
I'm sure you could pay one of them enough to call him mommy.

>>52886682
Oh dear, I hope the poor fellow doesn't get his feelings hurt, then. There are some cold bitches potentially getting into this game.

>>52886677
The second one. Conceal Spell is situational at best, and doesn't do much until you have some better spells to cast.

>>52886718
Nothing money can't fix, am I right?

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>>52886678

>>52886657
...Invictus?

>>52886729
Thanks buddy.

Any thoughts on the rest of the revelations I have to choose from? I was thinking of maybe taking extra revelation as my first feat.

>>52886735
Only if he's willing to settle for some gold digger tramp. If he wants to bag a valuable PC, he'll need more than money, because she'll have just as much, if not more. The only way I see that working is if he picks some idiot girl PC that likes the jingle of coin more than her dignity.

>>52886678
I went from "I'll have him home by 9" to "Your son calls me mommy too."

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>>52886678

The dhampir has got to be at least a hundred based on age charts, but she wants to suck his vitae so maybe she's a BAD MOMMY?

>>52886771
Try looking up a few Blingmaker names on F-list. You won't have to go too far down the application thread to find who I mean.

>>52886845

It's probably Kyras' player, if he didn't already have one.

Because holy shit that dude is a deviant.

>>52886776
Settling won't be an option that's for sure.

>>52886845
if you don't have the balls to attach your f-list to your app you're a bitch

>>52886895

Sorry, some of us are a little too ashamed to admit we're into stuff like lolicon.

>>52886895
Can't attach a f-list if you don't have one.

>>52886908
pussy

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>how come all your characters are female, dude?

>because there's no way I could pass if I did anything about it in real life, i don't have the right build for it

Why are players who Only Play X always hiding some kind of issue, /pfg/? Do you have anything you always play? Maybe you'd like to talk about it?

>>52886942
I play characters with a happy background.

>>52886633
What fashion did you throw on them, fampire?

>>52886890
He won't have a choice! What woman of any dignity or strength of character wants a man that can't even pretend to sweep her off her feet or toss her on a pile of hay and ravish her? It's pathetic! The magic sword has a better chance than he!

>>52886942
I only play men because I don't really have a way of thinking like a woman, and if I'm going to be playing a butch chick all the time anyway, I might as well make her a man.

>>52886942

Because I'm a girl. But lately I want to make male characters because the ones this thread puts up are such generic garbage dick delivery that it makes me want to try to steal all the sluts from their beta nerd hands. I'd be surrounded by sluts holding my dick in my hand screaming "I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT TO DO"

>>52886942
I only play stupid characters. Even if they have high mental scores I'll treat them as ditzy, misunderstanding, or "on another page".

It's kinda subconscious that they turn out like that, the truth is I play these characters because I'm just not very smart.

>>52886942
>Do you have anything you always play? Maybe you'd like to talk about it?

I always play religiously-oriented champions because I was raised by atheists and feel a disconcerting absence of purpose and meaning in my life. I relish the opportunity to pretend to be someone who believes in something as an escape from my hollow life.

Are there any guidelines for converting standard prestige classes to spheres and or psionics?

>>52886985
Is that a challenge, nerd? Are we going to organize a Hunk Construction Competition?
Are there even any games left to apply to with all these hunks?

>>52886975
Gotta think outside the box, boy. I will admit the sword does have a better chance.

>>52886942
I only play good guys, or at worst, mercenaries who default to good.
Because shit, if the real world's going to be awful, I can at least lead a rewarding and worthwhile life in fiction.

>>52887005

No, sadly.

>>52886869
>Tail Play
>Well, when he has such a stupidly flexible tail, the least he can do is to use it to show his partner a good time.
Actual quote.

>>52886942
I'd be doing that but some of my group's rotating player roster are trans the other direction and nobody likes me already, as the token cishet. It'd be suicide.

>>52886964
Well they're basically oilpeople. Like oozes, right?

Cuz they're sticky, they tend to collect dust or dirt on their hands and feet, which is actually okay because it means they aren't sticking to the floor or leaving oil everywhere.

So the richer ones have powder that they specifically apply to their hands and feet, basically like putting on some fancy shoes over just your old boots.

Also, because they don't have eyes, they often get fake eyes that they just stick in their head to look nice. And to freak out other races less.

Also, the race is colorblind, so some of the fake eyes are enchanted to let them see in color. So the common poor people clothes are all drab and stuff, since they can't see color. But the richer clothing tends to get SUPER vibrant because people who can afford it probably have enchanted eyes they can see color and are like HOLY SHIT DUDE THIS IS AMAZING.

They also sometimes dye themselves so they're not just flat black. Like a really really deep dark red or something.

Also their leader is a Baron.

>>52887017

I'll cheat and female (male), secretly seducing the girls while fucking all the hunks. You're already succ'd kid.

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>>52886985
>>52887017
Is it finally time to run a boy's only lewd game!?

>>52887033
Might be something to homebrew then. Maybe a Psionic Trickster or a Psionic/Kineticist prestige class to match up with the Caster/Kineticist prestige class from the new Legendary Book.

I just wish Psionic's got some more love.

What /pfg/ poster has displayed the most variety of characters? Who around here pulls unique characters out every time?

>>52887077
Why do you keep trying to start circle jerks around some random poster?

>>52887037
>Kyras will never probe your hidden vault with his tail while he sheathes his fearsome No-Dachi in your hoard and deftly handles your treasure chest

Hello darkness my old friend

>>52887062
Are psionics even at all challenging in most circumstances? Unless something is explicitly talking about spell slots, your magic is almost entirely analogous to normal magic. Even in those cases, a lot of conversion is clean because there are set amounts of pp that are equivalent to a specific level spell.

>>52887104
On the other hand, PMs.

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>>52887077
I still find it funny that despite being in two high profile games, neither me nor my characters are ever memed.

>>52887054
I'd either play the nerd with the duck or the cool motherfucker in the top left.

>>52887111
You lucky bastard.

>>52887046
To be honest, I'm intrigued. How big do they get? Does The Baron swear loyalty to someone else?

Any non-lewd games recruiting right now?

I've nothing against lewd in a game, but I'd rather it not be the main event, so to speak.

>>52887077
Define 'unique'

>>52887110
>implying I won't

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Post your favorite Blingmaker apps and your dream line-ups!

>>52887139
The Baron is about the top of the chain as far as I know so far. I... don't actually have an origin for the race currently.

As for size, they come in both Small and Medium varieties. But because they can change their proportions and such on the fly, they don't take any penalties for pretending to be a different gender or age, or for disguising as up to one size different than them. So while he doesn't count as Large, a Medium one could disguise himself as a Large creature without issue.

The Baron probably does so for events.

He likes to feel important.

>>52887194

What are the stat scores of these body types?

>>52887194
F is having the time of her life. Someone must have whipped out their stupidly large smorgasbord

>>52887201
K is S tier my waifu please fucking use and abuse me.

>>52887194
You have to use these 12 as a group of associated NPCs for a game. What do you use them for?

>>52887111
You wouldn't even have posted this if you weren't miffed about it.

>>52887194
J all day erry day.
I or B or L second-best.
But really, anybody here is waifu-able.
Except H--she's a cute little sister to give headpats to.

>>52887238
>tfw H

>>52887152
I'm considering running a one shot or two parter sometime in the next week, would a low-level shenanigans-lite be interesting?

>>52887194
I WANNNA MERRY H

>>52887217
Well E is clearly on her way to Lichdom.

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>>52887238
Nah, I would destroy H.


Lookin' at you, >>52887255

>>52887194

I think my PC's would be J and L

>>52886773
Personally, I'd go Dual Cursed, and take Extra Revelation to get Misfortune.

Otherwise it depends on the build and the campaign. Assumed Form is pretty damn amazing in a social game, because Disguise Self at-will.

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>>52887194
>I would give D the D.

>>52887301
I really wanted to go with dual cursed, but unfortunately my character relies way too much on the skills I'd lose by taking it. I was really disappointed when I noticed.

Assumed form was definitely one I was thinking about. I'll probably go with that.

>>52887198
Sounds cool. Let us know how they play out in the quests.

>>52887282
Thanks senpai.

>>52886985
I think a big part of the issue is that by default the assumption is that male characters are pursuers. Female characters can target a niche, the floor to be a waifu is low even if the ceiling might be high.

With male characters I think there's an expectation that they'll be reliable and have some assertiveness to them so that they can initiate the relationships, but they also need an appeal wide enough to go after a variety of women. This hurts them if they want to snipe a particular shoujo male or otome game archetype compared to their female counter-parts, because an awkward bookish girl is cute but an awkward bookish guy is a weak character.

>>52887349
Will do, anon.

Oozes are a lot easier to properly represent as a PC race than stuff like Undead. Less shit they need to be immune to.

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>>52887372
Hope to see you in a game, qt.

>>52887442
>an awkward bookish girl is cute but an awkward bookish guy is a weak character
Is this always true, though? I don't always need to be a perfect romantic lead to be strong as a character, just a fleshed-out person.

>>52887442

The assumption is false though, most of the female characters are played by males and will throw aside any characterization to get dicked. But in trying to get broad appeal you end up with PFG males apps which are often very bland. I mean, tons of the female apps are bland too.

>>52887479
Bland is a pretty poor criticism considering that it's never elaborated on and usually just a word people use to shill their own character by comparison.

Have we had any applications who were TRULY bland? Like, offensively inoffensive and safe? I feel most of the daddy characters are actually like this.

>>52887478
I misspoke. I am a part of the camp that believes the strongest characters generally make it into games and that romantic potential might not need to factor into that at all. I just meant to use an example where for two similar characters, a girl would have a stronger time appealing for the sake of shippers and lewds.

>>52887479
I don't believe that men need to be pursuers but I feel like it's the general notion and that broad appeal instead of a target market hurts a character. My observations might be way off though, but to memory I can't think of any males who aren't traps in /pfg/ games without falling under traditional masculine ideals.

>>52887512

You're right about the dads, but it can also be said about most waifu apps. Generally maybe bland could be replaced with poorly written, so that whatever is presented is not convincing.

>>52887512

It would be pretty needlessly harsh to single out apps I think since a lot of those players are still currently applying to games. But a lot of the roll20 random apps that we all make fun of are in a lot of ways not that different from some of the ones /pfg/ puts up.

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>>52886908
>>52886929

>>52887512
>>52887523
>>52887541
Don't beat around the bush. Which apps are boring and too safe?

>>52887000
I don't know if it'll help cheer you up, but: As someone who was raised in a highly religious family, I can tell you that there's no difference in terms of emptiness.

Rather, what I have running through the back of my head when I'm not careful is basically excuse after reason after justification for why the lack of purpose and why the emptiness.

The soul-hole is still there, we just "know" it's due to the gays, the poor, the clintons, the communists, the interracial marriage and the heathens in the villainous Greek Orthodox denomination.

>>52887217

>A: Foxwife
>B: Princess Questgiver
>C: Body-modding Alchemist
>D: Military Intelligence Officer/voted Best Eyebrows
>E: Shepherd Girl Who's Been Crushing On One of the PCs Since She Was Five
>F: The Queen Mum
>G: Entertainer at the village fair
>H: Bloodrager Cohort
>I: Foreign Spy
>J: The Queen Mum's Royal Fitness Trainer/Consort
>K: Paladin of Kurgess
>L: Silver Dragon Who Got Sketchy Advice On Humanoid Undergarments

>>52886942
The question you need to ask yourself, anon, is whether or not the Only Play X player is still fun to play with regardless

if the answer is yes then who cares? that player is a national treasure by /tg/ standards

AND IF NOT, FUCK'EM WHO CARES

>>52887595
Well, J remains at the top of my list.
But E just shot up to second, followed closely by B.

>>52887558
Can you beat around my bush?

>>52887727
Broodie pls

>>52887734
Don't fucking judge me

>>52887737
Then quit being a slut

>>52887744
You don't know me

>>52887754
I know you like your bush getting beat

and am unsure if you're legit into choking

>>52887760
Not really

>>52887760

I am though anon (You)

>>52887815
are you the irl H qt? If not, beat it

>>52886394
It's an old book about getting a tsundere girl to become a proper woman, actually a good read.

>>52887194
>Favorite apps
Andrik, Anna, Kyras, Andrei, Sigmund, Harland RIP, Lyra, Viviana, and Nastya

>dream line-up
Any four of the above really

Blingmaker is full of cute girls though, I'd stick my dick in any of them or Wubu

>>52886609
I dunno, I get the feel Nastya would fall for a farmhand from the vineyards. Not glorious, but that's okay because he won't overshadow her.

>>52886394
A Shakespeare play about a dude gaslighting and abusing a woman into being a docile housewife.

Not one of the Bard's better plays.

Is Kevin's app a shitpost?

>>52888034
It's a pretty good play though.

>>52888064
Ehhhhh... it's Shakespeare, but there's no reason I'd recommend it beyond that; definitely in the bottom quarter of his work.

Kate has some great banter in the first few acts, but the entire story is dedicated to making her less interesting.

And the plot is pretty vile to modern sensibilities.

>>52888100
>the entire story is dedicated to making her less interesting
I mean yeah that's the point. It's the 'taming' of the shrew, and a tamed animal is safer for humans precisely because it'sbecome less interesting.

>vile to modern sensibilities
That's like saying because the Merchant of Venice is vile to Jewish sensibilities it suddenly becomes bad or something.

>>52888100
>>52888135

I want a big brave anon to domesticate me!

>>52885495
weeelll wouldn't it do more damage than that? I'm no geologist, but wouldn't a moon "boop"ing the Earth still fuck up the insides of our planet? Like shift the plates, maybe crack a plate, break some mantle, cause volcanic eruptions around the world, tsunamis immediately following the impact etc? I could imagine something like the moon hitting Earth even from a small distance would come close to wiping most significant life out

>>52888135
>I mean yeah that's the point.
Turning a fun and interesting character into a boring one is still shitty, whether that's intentional or not.

>Merchant of Venice is vile to Jewish sensibilities

The Merchant of Venice has plot and merit separate from the problematic elements; you could very easily remove all anti-semitic elements and the play loses basically nothing.

Taming of the Shrew is entirely about beating down and mentally breaking a woman who doesn't want a husband. You can't separate the spousal abuse from the text.

There's a reason Merchant of Venice is still lauded by scholars, and Taming of the Shrew is one everyone tries to forget.

>>52888217
>you could very easily remove all anti-semitic elements and the play loses basically nothing.
But who cares about the anti-semetic elements? You're not judging the play on its values, you're judging the play on its literary merit. The anti-semetic elements are literally irrelevant as are the spouse abuse parts insofar as they offend or agree with your personal values. You're literally trying to say a work is bad because it offends you and not because of any actual literary reason, besides the point you made above which is a matter of opinion - I think that it's fine because Kate is supposed to become boring, but either way, whether or not it offends you has literally nothing to do with whether or not it's good. It'd be like saying the Tale of Genji is bad for no other reason that because it sounds creepy to your personal sensibilities.

>There's a reason Merchant of Venice is still lauded by scholars, and Taming of the Shrew is one everyone tries to forget.
Because MoV is a better written work than TotS, not because they're offended. Anyone who starts bringing in their personal feelings of offense when judging a work is no more a scholar than my pet rabbit, their so-called qualifications be damned.

>>52888178
It'd do quite a bit more because it wouldn't stop falling, the gravity of the Earth at that distance supercedes that of the Moon and it'd just rip the Moon to piece and destroy a hemisphere from direct impact.

>>52888178
YES.
A moon will be fucking your magnetosphere, disrupting your gravity, losing the fight with its planet's gravity to hold onto its dense core (this is probably how we got such a big iron core, contacted the moon and ripped the fucker out), begin losing its shape (celestial bodies tend toward spheres/ellipsoids, not attached googly eyes) and dropping its moon rocks like it's the colony drop scene being played on repeat, making water flow toward the new center of gravity and tides go insane-o, etc.
Depending on how long the contact is for, not just all "significant" life but ALL life may be jeopardy from such an event. Don't hug moons.

>>52888331
Fucking this.

A lot of movies/games/settings/etc have shit like extra moons and planetoids just pop into close orbit, and the only worry anyone has is how ominous a prophecy that is.

Orbital mechanics are serious business. The scale and forces involved by shit like this is beyond anything humanity can even hope to do to itself in the near future.

It's a disaster movie where the plot is "everybody dies half an hour before the movie even ends"

>>52888403
Generally speaking, applying hard physics to sci-fi / apocalypse movies is an exercise in futility. Most writers don't actually have any sense of scale for something "mundane" as the Earth. If the Earth were a picture that's 1080 x 1080 then Mount Everest would be a single pixel.

>>52888331
>>52888403
So how about Earthfall, then?

>>52888285
>You're not judging the play on its values, you're judging the play on its literary merit.

Can't divorce a work from its message. If you want to discuss actual literary merit, I'm more than happy to do so, but that's a much weightier conversation.

>Because MoV is a better written work than TotS, not because they're offended.

I didn't say they were. I was responding to the assertion that TotS is "pretty good" and isn't one of his worst plays.

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>>52888178
The Giant-Impact Hypothesis is one of the models that describes what the effects of such a thing would have been back in the Hadean era; back before EVERYTHING ALIVE ON EARTH was around to fucking die from such an event. Which it would have.

Effectively it goes like this:

>There was another protoplanet body among many others. "Theia", after the titan.

>Itself, Earth and several other mars-sized bodies weren't quite in so stable an orbit since shit was too cluttered.

>At some point Theia and Earth had a one-night stand, the result being that Earth gained a fuckton of mass, but on the other side a piece fucking tore off because of the sheer energies involved.

>This piece was - as evidence does strongly suggest - so energized by this that it was a fucking ocean of magma for a long time, which got caught back up into an orbit and slowly cooled.

>In other words, the moon.
>The moon for a while was almost all fucking lava

>Later on there's massive bombardment as chunks of earlier impacts and what's left of other protoplanets bombard the fuck out of everything that's left in the solar system, shit slowly accumulating until we got what we have today.

Boom.

>>52888460
>Can't divorce a work from its message
No you can't but your personal feelings on a message don't actually change whether or not it's a good play, because the argument there is 100% subjective without any chance of objectivity, your values do not influence the play - especially since modern sensibilities aren't a blanket and there's plenty of people who agree to varying degrees on whether or not it's okay, and people who disagree have varying reasons on why it isn't.

>If you want to discuss actual literary merit, I'm more than happy to do so, but that's a much weightier conversation.
I imagine it's the conversation with any weight at all.

>>52888465
The existence of the Late Heavy Bombardment has come under fire recently and Theia's angle of collision is still uncertain.

>>52888491
>The existence of the Late Heavy Bombardment has come under fire recently

How so? I always thought it was pretty solid.

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Do the prerequisites for this mean that a character has to have
Improved Unarmed Strike, two or more style feats, AND either base attack bonus +6 or monk level 5th.
or can a character take it if they fulfill any of the listed prereqs? The grammar for the prerequisites are pretty weird.

>>52888537
Idea is that the samples that implied the LHB were all taken from places that could easily have housed debris that resulted from a single massive impact, so the apparent density of that time period is a false positive. I think people are waiting for that new Chinese craft that's supposed to get samples and return by the end of the year for more confirmation.

>>52888570
commas mean AND. So yes, you must have IUS, two style feats, and have BAB of +6 or 5 levels of monk.

>>52888570
Yeah, prerequisites are fucking wierd.

But yes, just gives Monks access a little earlier.

>>52888581
>>52888655
Alright, thanks. I appreciate the help.

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>>52888581
>>52888655
Here's another question.
Semicolons. Do they mean "You have to have this and one of the following," or is Pathfinder just all kinds of fucked up punctuation wise?

>>52888714
Both

>>52888714
In this case?

The prerequisite is Improved Unarmed

And then one of the two flurries or BAB 6

Greatswords should have Reach.

I'm giving thought to running an Undead Lord Cleric, any books that give more material to necromancy, undeath etc? I've tried skimming over the repository but the only thing I've been able to find with anything is Black Markets.

>>52888917
Sadly not, it's a pretty untouched character focus. You're a bit out of luck.
What little cool necromancy things there are are split in the margins of different adventure paths and barely mentioned in different setting books.

>>52888917

What do you want to run one? I've run two necromaners and to be honest, it wasn't a pleasant experience. Dedicating more than the absolute minimum to it gets you almost no returns.

It's also a huge hassle, the rules for skeleton and zombie templates are very clearly not meant to be used by players for creating undead minions.

How do you beat a girallon as a 7th level monk?

>>52888964
Well that's a shame, thanks.
>>52888991
I'd originally thought of making as close as I could come to a good aligned necromancer, but after reading up on the setting I saw there wasn't a lot to work with (I'm new to pathfinder) and settled on something more neutral. I'm however begining to have second thoughts due to lack of more material, and now you saying it's a hassle. Could you elaborate on the templates-not-meant-for-players?

>>52885157
Took a risky jump over a tentacled pit of death to fuck up the BBEG without having to wade through her minions. Ended the fight in the negatives, but we won.

>>52889133

They're clunky, you have to manually convert everything and there are a lot of grey areas. If you're new to PF start with something simple. If you are really dead set on it there are lots of guides here that will cover your needs

http://zenithgames.blogspot.ca/2012/11/the-comprehensive-pathfinder-guides.html

>>52889070

Flurry it to death? You should be able to kill it in two rounds

>>52889165
>>52889070
Don't listen to this dude, you're dead unless superoptimized, run.

>>52889180

Level 7 monk with 12 con has about 55 HP

Girallon has a bite for 1d6+4, 4 claws at 1d6+4, and a rend at 1d6+6

The attacks are made at +10

If all of them hit he'll do an average of 47

So you'll get two rounds which should be enough to do 73 damage.

More than likely you'll get 3 rounds if your AC is 20 or more, not hard for a monk.

It's will save is also only +4 so your stunning fist has a good chance to stun it, which is an auto win for you.

It you can get a source of DR, like a potion of stone skin, it will struggle to even harm you.

>>52889225
>It's will save is also only +4 so your stunning fist has a good chance to stun it, which is an auto win for you.
Stun targets Fort, anon, and Girallon has +9

>>52889225
You have one turn, Girallon has improved ini and +3 Dex, he's more than likely going first. Also stunning fist goes to Con no Will

>>52889243

UC monk would have the advantage in the ability to "pounce"

>>52889180
Can't run, is a gladiatorial match, we were captured and sold as slaves, and bought for the gladiator games.

>>52889258
I actually have Elbow Smash because my monk speed bonus speed is +20ft, he's farther than that. When I had the chance to pick Flying Kick my bonus speed was +10ft so was even less desirable, it's my second choice if I ever reach the level.

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>>52889330
>only +10ft
>I don't want to be able to get the equivalent of three five foot steps in a round and still flurry
ok

>>52889339
Technically you cant use free five foot step if you move that turn, anon, and flying kick has a movement on it

>>52889339
>You can move 5 feet in any round when you don’t perform any other kind of movement

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Since we're talking about monks, what about this: suppose I have the ability to flurry on charge, how does that work with Flying Kick? Do I move double my speed, and then jump through the air at my fast movement bonus and then make an attack?

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>>52889404
none of the actions listed are a standard action even under normal circumstances, what are you getting at?

>>52889390
How is worded the flurry on charge?
Is it flurry at the end of a charge? then I guess you need to reach the target first before the flurry.

>tfw snuck in The Fookin' Bloody Nine
>players have never read it
>They have no idea they ahould expect anything
This is going to be fun

Also dont spoil the surprise, they come in here.

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So, when would be the most ideal time to take Flying Kick and Elbow Smash?
What if i also want Shattering Fist?
What would be the best progression for a normal Dex based monk?
What would be the best progression for a heavily Strength based monk..?

>>52889467
>What would be the best progression for a heavily Strength based monk..?
Suicide.

>>52889467
>dex based monk
>normal
anon...

>>52889467
>So, when would be the most ideal time to take Flying Kick and Elbow Smash?
When you can use both in the same flurry, around 15th level I think

>>52889467
Literally no idea, but I'm jumping to level 4 on Sunday, and I'd love an answer to this.

>>52889528
I mean 5.
Sorry, had too many cocks in my mouth

>>52889467
>What would be the best progression for a heavily Strength based monk..?
Brutal Slayer Stalker

>>52889467
So basically just take elbow smash asap, I guess. A shitty extra attack is literally better than no extra attack.

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Blingmaker when??
The suspense is killing me!

>>52888217
>Unironically calling something 'problematic' on 4chan

What is happening to this site? This used to be our safe space from you people.

>>52889709

Wubu probably wants to do 2/2 male/female for some cuuuuuute ships! Who do you see as a natural pair?

>>52888460
>Can't divorce a work from its message.
Sure you can. You SJWs love calling everything either feminist or misogynist, regardless of the author's intent.

What level fighter would be reasonably immune to getting one rounded by a party of level 4s? Assume he gets maxed out hp dice

>>52889973
Never. Your saves will never be good enough to keep you safe from SoL spam.

>>52889984
>level 4s

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Im making a roleplay-heavy "modern" system that uses pathfinder's combat and simplifies the d20 system to use just two d6s for everything.
The way it is now, you allocate 16 points into 6 attributes, and each attribute has a ton of skills you can use.
To succeed in a skill check you roll 2 d6s and then add the amount of points allocated into the Attribute. Let's say, you want to punch someone, so you roll d6s and add your ST to the roll. The difficulty is set by the Gm, right now 6/easy, 8/medium and 12/hard.
But as I roll the dice around I am feeling it is kind of broken. idk should I just stick to d20?
How would you guys balance it?

>>52889973
Entirely depends on the party.

And to an extent, you can still never truly account for lucky crits unless you make its HP sky high.

>>52890052
If I needed untouchable, I wouldn't be calculating hp.

If I recall correctly, the most they can hit something with is like 9d6+40 so 80 hp and platemail should keep him around

>>52889992
Even then, I wouldn't trust a fighter.

>>52890051
What do you mean by modern, what are your design goals, what's broken about it? No one can answer your question with the information you have provided.

>>52890101
Sounds reasonable if that's a good estimate, but players can often do the unexpected.

Does the common cold have stats?

>>52887512

Bland or boring are words used here to describe any character that lacks a meme factor. PFG is desensitized to normal people. There needs to be a lot of quirk tacked on to catch interest. Sometimes someone will say it's more a matter of bad writing, but I haven't seen it pointed out how.

Also the male apps always have a more difficult time since they can't be waifus or put tits on their pictures. A number of personality traits that would be annoying or contradictory on a male character become quirky on a female one. Unless you make your female character NOT waifu material, but then you're 'boring' again.

>>52890480
Quirks is just a derogatory way of saying 'star factor'.

Of course pfg is desensitised to normal people when we're invested enough into the genre and game to shitpost around in a 4chan general for it, we don't need to see Generic Ranger #4213 or Standard Revenge Quest #4687 when we've already seen, read or played the first four thousand iterations.

>>52890502
No, Star factor is just an overly positive way of saying quirk.

>>52890539
t. someone who can't write interesting quirks alongside a solid character foundation

>>52890502
>Generic Ranger #4213 or Standard Revenge Quest #4687
Can't think of any /pfg/ characters this even describes.

>>52890556
t. someone who gets their jollies out of shitting on other people because they got lucky a few times

>>52890564
Because most applications to /pfg/ games aim higher or are summarily rejected. Fuck's sake the reject bin of most /pfg/ games make accepted randoms look like half-cent trash.

>>52890581

Oh my god this, it's the type of thing where I go into reading an advertisement knowing I could get in if I put in even a half-effort.

Jenny for WWW was an anomaly, most characters you'll see are like Invictus for Blingmaker.

>>52890571
t. someone who blames their failed applications on bad luck so they don't have to admit they didn't try hard enough

>>52890661
Oh, I tried plenty hard.
And got in

>>52890502
"Normal people" doesn't mean stereotypes like Generic Ranger #4213, which are generally quirky despite being tropes. "Normal people" means normal people, as in more like you or I than weird and super-quirky fantastical heroes.

>>52890684
Then you made good use of character quirks alongside a solid character foundation

Well done!

>>52890661
I disagree. The apps I polish languish and the memes flourish. And Ive got several acceptances.

>>52890708
That's arguably even worse than just being a walking archetype. I don't play ttrpgs to relive the life of a nine-to-fiver.

>>52890708
Even if that's what the original anon meant when they said normal people, I can't see why anyone expects that type of PC to get into a game without an extremely well-done app.

>>52890718
No, I got lucky. Most /pfg/ apps are at the place where who gets picked is pretty much down to individual taste. I have no idea why people try to act like it's anything more than that beyond them trying to stroke their own ego..

>>52890718
Most /pfg/ apps are at a level of writing where any one of them would be the jewel of a normal game (as in a pub game).

>>52890741
So you're saying you got in because of meme mastery?
are you broodie

>>52890758
Do you have self esteem issues anon
You did good and you don't need to dismiss that

Every app process there are one or two clear standout apps that everyone expects to get in, and the fact the people who try predicting the acceptances have a decently accurate track record (definitely better than blindly guessing) shows there has to be some vague objective measure that people can agree on, even if luck plays a small part.

>>52890810
Usually you have 2 apps that everyone knows are getting in, but for the other 3 slots there's 5 good apps.

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>>52890778

>tfw I submitted a "pfg standard" app for a campaign and the DM freaked the fuck out at how good it was

>>52890825
5 good apps and 15 standard ones.

Getting into that top 5 isn't just luck.

>>52890835
Yeah but getting into the three slots once you're actually in the top five is.

>>52890849
Yeah but the anons who say it's all luck are dumb

There's luck but the effort and skill you put in goes into increasing your odds as much as possible

>>52890810
>shows there has to be some vague objective measure that people can agree on
That's not how that works.

Usually there are one or two apps that people will obsess over, usually because they were spawned by thread group think or attentioned whore'd within the thread.

And cabal memes aside. I'm pretty sure most reviewers are in the same general friend group as most GM's so far, so they probably share similar tastes.

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>>52890877
The one or two people obssess over are usually actually good though.

Anyway who are the top apps for Overlewd?
1 - Does your character have high ambitions, befitting an evil overlord?
2 - Do you feel your character has strong writing backing them up in terms of personality and backstory?
3 - Is your character believable as a villain?*
4 - Is your build not an attempt to break the game?

* You don’t have to be Evil. You can even be Good, so long as you’re still firmly within the realms of being a bad guy who opposes the orderly and largely-good-intentioned Empire. Also, you don’t have to be a total monster right now. But you should at least start at the top of a slippery slope. If you want to be a good person while still being an evil overlord, earn it, and work to find ways to satisfy your moral code. Otherwise, accept that you will fall, and become Evil.

>>52890877
Those are some serious mental gymnastics you're going through to justify "nope skill has nothing to do with it".

Is it really so hard to accept that some apps are better than others by many standard metrics, and those are more likely to get in?

>>52890914
>The one or two people obssess over are usually actually good though.
No better than the ones people don't obsess over usually.

>>52890931
>Is it really so hard to accept that some apps are better than others by many standard metrics, and those are more likely to get in?
Yes, because I believe that isn't the case with most /pfg/ applications.

>>52890956
Oh, I get it.

This is one of those 'I have better taste than all of pfg and the whole system is wrong for not judging with the same criteria as me' episodes.

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How do you play as a cleric? What are the most common types of build? What about roleplaying?

>>52890983
I'm not saying I have better taste than /pfg/ though. Like at all.

BLINGMAKER TODAY???

>>52891004

Blingmaker is a bamboozle.

>>52891001
Yet you refuse to acknowledge that what they say is good is good, and claim people are making up false standards of quality to explain what must surely be luck or the whims of the GM alone.

Sure.

>>52891027
NOOOOOOOOOOO~~~~~~~

>>52890998

Either as friars (traveling holy men who service the community) or ascetics.

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>>52890939
>>52890956
"Nah"
See the way it works usually is there's a few quality ones that aren't meme'd but the ones that are meme'd are quality on some level.
Succube and 4916 are fucking hilarious, but just looking at other apps for Overlewd, Ecaterina and Cijiska are objectively better in terms of writing and adherence to what the DM asked for than say Crytha, Valentina, Sayaka, or Sinh. It's not as easy to pick out the better ones from the mid tiers, but that's because /pfg/ generally writes good apps.

>>52890998
As an old man.

>>52891053
Olivia is better than Ciisika t bh

>>52890914
Does ruse ooze have a chance?

>1 - Does your character have high ambitions, befitting an evil overlord?
Wants to be the best bed. Also wants to build a superdungeon castle to overlord over, I guess.
>2 - Do you feel your character has strong writing backing them up in terms of personality and backstory?
It's simple and direct without too much depth. Maybe that's a good thing for a level 1 app, maybe not. Attempts to ground the gimmick and explain it believably.
>3 - Is your character believable as a villain?*
I think she'll be fine doing evil stuff because her goal is to emulate the fearsome monsters of old. Can she be taken seriously? That's another question.
>4 - Is your build not an attempt to break the game?
>+16 racial CON
>CON avowed
...Well.
It's still not tier 1.

>>52891004

Here are my predictions, based on knowing Wubu wants equal proportions of men and women for maximum ship.

Men
>Andrik
>Andrei

Women
>Branwen
>Viviana

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>>52890998

Like pic related

>>52890998

Self-hating misogynistic woman cleric.

>>52891110
Honestly, I'd like Ruse Ooze to get in with Wraith and either Umbranae or Olivia plus Lucius and Edward for no reason other than it's the iconic "enemies" list you'd meet on a normal campaign.
>Cube aka fodder enemies that aren't actually fodder
>Undead
>Dragon / Bad Noblewoman
>Edgelord McEdgy
>Depressed Fallen Paladin of Fallen Depression

>>52891150
I always thought it made more sense for a woman to be misogynistic if she were super sure of herself.
>yeah no women should stay in the kitchen and stop whining about rights
>huh, me? why am I talking back to you?
>because I'm a genius silly, if other girls want to talk they should've been geniuses too

>>52891053
Ecaterina and Cijiska also don't get memed much. The Overlewd apps that are most often memed tend to be the joke ones.

PFG has a tendency to latch on to waifu qualities or gimmicks that immediately stand out regardless of actual writing quality. GMs sometimes look at the same thing, but they also have to judge based on what they want for their vision of the game, not necessarily what /pfg/ thinks would look cute if they are paired.

>>52891150

This actually used to be Erastil's policy back when he was first revealed for Kingmaker. If I recall, it literally says something to the effect of, "women aren't encouraged to become clerics since they should be at home or by their man's side, but a few become clerics nonetheless."

And let's not forget the first Erastilian Paladin we meet (Kingmaker spoilers) fell because he murdered his fiance and a room full of people after she accused him of rape, just so she can run away with a fat ugly merchant that came into town and offered her an easy life away from the country.

>>52891189
Because Succube and 4916 are fucking funny, ergo meme'd.

>>52891053
>didnt make the list
>know Im not really in tone with the DM
Feels bad. Not even getting memed.

>>52891189
honestly a good gimmick is more important than writing quality to me

>>52891179

That works too.

>>52891192
Did literally nothing wrong except maybe some of the bystanders

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>>52890102
Modern I mean guns, detectives, policeman, this kind of stuff. The design I want is roleplay focused, but with good combat, keeping it VERY simple.
I want to use the D6s and a fixed number, like I explained. I had no intention of showing this until I finish everything, but here we go.
The Attribute bonus is the points you spend on STG, DEX, etc. A normal person has 2, a hero can have up to 5 of this.
Now I just need to make this balanced.

>>52891203
I mean I have a bunch of 'these guys are decent too', but there's too many that are decent.

>>52891189
It's not about writing quality so much as character quality and potential for improvement. You're not literally writing the character as-is, you're writing a base and backstory so the GM can try and guess how fun you'll be at the table. Gimmicks show that your character will probably be fun to interact with.
Also, Ecaterina and Cijiska, while [solid], aren't actualy that memorable. Yeah no, they stand out all right, but they're just too solid all around. Succube is solid from a personality point of view but is absolutely ridiculous from a physical and motivation point of view and that's what makes it funny and memeable. 4916 meanwhile is literally created by Wizards on Discord to be THICKER which is just ridiculous on so many levels.

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>>52891225

I'm sure he did plenty wrong after joining the Stag Lord.

>>52891110
Wist are you also GMT+8
Us unfortunate timezoners need to stick together

>>52891033
More like I'm refuse to acknowledge what they say bad is bad.

I'm not saying the applications that get in aren't good, I'm saying they aren't(or at least seldom are) that much better than all the others.

>>52891155
How is Lucius edgy besides the wings and perhaps the name?

>>52891251
But would you snuggle the snek?

>>52891138

How much int and wis should he have?

>>52891306
The ones that didn't get in aren't always bad but there's definitely bad ones there
Nobody said getting in is ALL luck, but while for example, if Olivia gets kicked that's basically just shitty luck, if Jaune doesn't get in I don't think that's luck.

>>52890914
>He's an unlikeable twat who wants the good life, but didn't realize how good he had it
>Shit man hell if I know, I tried to keep things concise because I hate walls of text, but I'm a terrible judge of my own work
>Still has to grow into that role, but I can see it at least as a petty villain at first
>I see a little bending, but no more than I see the average player doing

>>52891251
I'm just saying that meme potential is different from what a GM is necessarily looking for in their game, is all.

>>52891318
He looks edgy, that's all I meant.
All of those people are really obviously evil, besides maybe Edward, but Edward is just down.

>>52891337
Which one you boi

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>>52890914

1. Misfortune. Everywhere and forever. Implications of even fucking with the gods if she can. Possibility of becoming the pettiest, shittiest evil goddess ever.

2. I don't feel my own writing is particularly strong, but I enjoyed writing her as basically the extreme version of a standard 'asshole cat', with some greek esque mythos shit thrown in. I enjoyed writing how she fights.

3. A certain kind of villain, sure. She's honestly more suited to be a lacky of somesort to somebody bigger, would make a good 'dragon' to someone's 'big bad', given her more whimsical fuck with you nature.

4. I'm using broken blade? But in games where people will have bajillions of Con or Cha or just get to ignore stats like Con entirely I feel like its not even that bad.

Honestly I just enjoy building and writing characters, sometimes more than playing them.

>>52891322

Equal parts Intelligence and Wisdom, I'd say. 16/16.

>>52891353
Who wants to know?

>>52891331
Those are generally the exceptions. Jaune is WIP, but he really needs to fix some plot holes, like how did he afford demon summoning if he's suddenly poor.

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>>52890914
1. Kill a guy then kill the sun. Turning off a heavenly body is pretty big.
2. Dunno, but I'm a fan of King Lear the Rabbit Lord now.
3. I mean, I think so yeah, she's really really clearly evil.
4. H-haha...