MTG: Snowflake/Lore/OC/Waifu General

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>>52859491
Costin fears everything. Even his own shadow. Even his own magic. He's been afraid his whole life.

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>>52859641
I'm not sure that I understand why they would make a new mechanic to overwrite fear, then let it leak out into other colors. I mean, Intimidate is probably fine in Red as well, but that's pretty much it.

So much for >>52854606.

>>52860068
We just got started, yeah? We should at least get this first stretch going long enough that people are aware that we've started up again.

>>52859641
>>52860037
Is there a specific cause of his fear?

It's possible you may be enamored with the Fear card itself. Maybe have the -1 literally fetch copies of Fear out?
Or instead how about also making him more useful and giving +1/+0 and/or haste as a bonus? (People get a shot of adrenaline when they panic)
Black happens to have secondary access to haste, so it could suit as a viable option in a monoblack deck as a source of haste.

>>52859641
I wouldn't cling to much to the specific word "fear"
Menace is the exact, literally the exact, same flavor of fear and intimidate, except that it doesn't have the landwalk issue of singling out specific colors.

So Innistradi vampires can be planeswalkers because they're not technically dead right? Is the same true of Zendikari vampires?

>>52861183
I think so.

>>52859491
>What does your flake fear most?
Being locked in a dark hole/pocket dimension with no space, light, or anything for all eternity. She's claustrophobic.

>>52859491
currently? that someone will misuse or abuse the help he gives

>>52861473
Is it weird that I actually kind of want that to happen to me?

>>52861992
I mean. A little.

>>52861992
You can do it, if you want. Sensory deprivation chambers exist.
>>52859491
Tristain is afraid of being abandoned by his gods. He's afraid that everything he knows, everything he has spent his life learning, will all be for naught in the end.
Vosmir is afraid that no one will ever recognize him for the true genius that he is. I mean, he IS a genius, right? Right?

Being poor.

>>52862177
jewragons get out
I'm joking please stay, we need more non-unhinged comedy flakes

>>52862177
Wait. Is that...Belloski?

>>52862106
From what I know about deprivation tanks, you can probably still feel a bit in there. I don't want to sense anything whatsoever.

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>>52859491
Requesting the pic of my flake be updated on the flake sheet.

>>52859491
It used to be failure, but I think she's kinda gotten over that now. I feel like it would probably be to feel directionless, she always has to hop from project to project but she doesn't know what her real end goal is so she's sort of blotting it out.

>>52859491
Deep down she fears some kind of karmic retribution for being judged unworthy and only escaping death because her spark saved her.

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Does this look like a good spell list?
I tried to narrow it down some, I had too many and I tried to cut down a few.
This has been surprisingly difficult, picking out spells for my bard character.

>>52863065
any cards with the names of characters already established are probably good to toss, you can find non-owned versions of those, and the unhinged guy could probably be booted unless you specifically need it

>>52863111
I kept Zur's Weirdling mostly because of the effect, I'll see if I can find a similar card to it.
What do you mean by the unhinged guy?

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updated Bellugi with a revised backstory. Still need to find better art for him and add cards and equipment

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>>52863065
Huh. I was thinking up a bard character too. It's interesting how we took different stands on the whole idea.

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I really like the idea of planeswalker's bar. Somewhere to pick up mail, where you can relax and drink Kamigawan sake while the sentient hydra next to you downs a barrel of Vallan ale.

>>52863583
I like how we have some red cards in common though.
I'd also be interested in hearing more of your bard character.

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>>52863828
Well I drafted a card up for him real quick, and I think I'll probably end up cutting green out. He's a nomad, probably originating in Fiora, Llorywn, or some other comfy plane.

>>52859491
>No update from last thread.

Incoming or repost 'em?

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>>52863583
Improved version. I'll fill up his bio sometime tomorrow, probably.

>>52863065
Continue cutting down. Seriously.

Like, consider nine or less. You've got too many there right now.

>>52864085
No need for reposts. All profiles are saved when they are posted for the first time. Only repost them if an update misses them.

>>52864728
Well, that's good to know.

>>52863406
Nice try, Belloski...

>>52861992
Yes. But I mostly think just because you didn't think it all the way through. It's really never-ending: the darkness, the inability to move, and the loneliness. You'd get no stimuli and slowly lose your mind until you became a thoughtless dud outside of reality.

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Onek fears the Rakdos cult more than anything else. The only way to get him to approach the Hellhome of Rakdos is by giving him a letter or package to deliver in there.

>>52864245
He doesn't look backstabby enough to survive in Fiora.

>>52869414
How do you think his spark ignited?

>>52869462
That is a great point.

>>52863065
I don't understand this garbage. There are way too many spells with no real theme linking them together. I can't get a good idea of what this walker can do.

And what is up with all these vision/seeing spells? Same with the Aether spells. Don't know what bard you're thinking of that can see the future.
Am I the only one who is lost?

>>52866894
>card draw in white
Also, this is hilariously underpowered. The +1 would be weak on a 4-mana walker, the -2 is worthless, and the ultimate takes way too long to charge for not enough gain.

>>52870202
It is really weak, but the -2 is the ability of Carrier Pigeon.

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>White: 2
>Blue: 1
>Black: 2
>Red: 1
>Green: 2
>Azorius: 1
>Orzhov: 1
>Dimir: 2
>Izzet: 0
>Rakdos: 4
>Golgari: 1
>Gruul: 0
>Boros: 2
>Selesnya: 1
>Esper: 0
>Abzan: 0
>Grixis: 2
>Jeskai: 4
>Jund: 1
>Sultai: 1
>Naya: 0
>Mardu: 1
>Bant: 0
>Temur: 1
>Domain: 1

Izzet, Gruul, Esper, Abzan, Naya and Bant are all vacant.
Rakdos and Jeskai are maybe a little over-saturated at the moment.

>>52869721
Does anyone understand this spell list?

>>52871120
Bard mindmage thing? I;m having a Thought Hemorrhage trying to work it out.

>>52870720
Neat.

Also, there's always going to be a lot of RB flakes. Because we can't help but be edgy.

>>52871359
Exactly it makes no sense. Bards don't get visions of the future. And they can't mess with Aether. This is a shit list.

Given Elvish Piper, Yisan, Musician, and Rubinia "Soulsinger" I'd guess what M:tG thinks a bard is is green to GUx and does a lot of 'unearned' summoning, perhaps a little gain control. If we get more "Emotion other than blind rage" red cards that could be an angle to go at, but Chord of Calling would seem like the essential "bard" spell as we know it now.

>>52871855
Green, White, and Red seem to be the colors most suited for music.

>>52859491
so i started looking at the lore and i have 3 things to ask...

does every plane the gatewatch go to always end up going to hell?

if so how do you guys think amonkhet is gonna get fucked?

why is the obviously evil necromancer even with the group in the first place?

>>52871855 >>52871966
So we are in agreement that this >>52863065 is shit

>>52872223
Yes, but it's not necessarily their fault; they just go where the plot is.

Probably, given that they showed up explicitly to fuck with Bolas, and that's stupid.

Because they needed to round out the color set for the Jacetice League.

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>>52865965
Bellugi is Belloski's mentor and replacement.
>>52870720
>Got Bant, black, and red planeswalkers on the backburner
>Already made a Mardu and Rakdos character
>Now I want to make characters for Izzet, Orzhov, Boros, and Golgari
I gotta stop
But I wanna go

What is your flake's ________fetish________?

>>52873463
Emrakul, definitely Emrakul.

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REMINDER

>>52873463
Using her mind powers to link everyone's minds during orgasm in a mass orgy.

>>52873211
>spoiler
Hey, what a coincidence because I'm remaking an old flake to be less faggoty, too.

>>52871385
From the last two storms, RB was actually the most swingy color. It frequently went from being at the bottom of the list to the top and then slowly dropping back to the bottom again.

Jeskai on the other hand, will always hands-down be the most popular three-color option every storm without fail.

>>52872357
To be honest, black is the least 'bard' color of the five. I'm not sure why someone would want to make a bard with black in there, nor do I know how they'd explain it without pulling some 'Rakdos entertainer' nonsense.

>>52873869
Self obsessed narcissistic pop star who's only in it for the money and adoration, perhaps?

What about blue? Does blue like art?

>>52874333
It's something for blue to excel at, plus it's one of the tools blue could use for hypnotism, distraction and trickery. See the sirens of Theros, as an example.

>>52874333
Blue doesn't like art all that much. It's more about the logical process.

What bullshit do you think anons are gonna pull this flakestorm? Will we get a time-traveller who literally rends apart the multiverse for his waifu? Will we get a planeswalker who uses brown mana? Will we get a monocolored pw with multicolored spells that are mostly legendary creatures? Will we get a lore rape? Will we see someone from Amonkhet or Kaladesh? Will we see more characters who got their spark from someone or somewhere else? Will Vronak make a comeback?
the answer to the last one is yes

>>52873869
Perhaps a tragedian, dedicated to getting new inspiration by manipulating people and manafacturing their real tragedies? Could be a blue/black or Grixis character there? Alternativley, someone on the nasty end of hypnotist/mind controller would also be blue/black (Discard and control magic would be the key cards) and could easily work through music.

It's not impossible, it's just not how we've usually seen things flavored so there's limited support at most.

>>52875402
Yes to the last 4.

>>52875402
You shut your whore mouth.

>>52875402
We already have someone from Kaladesh actually.

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I couldn't figure out what to give this guy for equipment, so he has the bow from his art. I tried to avoid the super stale "every flake from Tarkir must have a vendetta against dragons".

>>52875402
>>52875599
This wouldn't be strange anyway.

>>52875634
The clans are dead, anon. Abzan, Jeskai, Sultai, Mardu and Temur are all dead words.

You can have him be one of the Dromoka that worships his ancestors in secret and delves into forbidden and forgotten magic, but you cannot have him be Abzan.

>>52877437
Wait, when is Reyhan Last of the Abzan from? I thought she was contemporary?

>>52877528
Oops, you're right. Reyhan is from the past. I haven't read all the stories from Khans block.

In either case, it's a simple enough rewrite. I was just going with what I thought was the shortest way to explain his background.

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>>52864245
Alright, here he is. I figured I''d be a little bit gimmicky and have him tell his own story, since he's a bard and all.
>>52869414
No, he's not. He writes some damn good libelous limericks, but he's not one of those 'knives in the dark' types.

How many planes have sentient, natural born dragons? I know dominaria can, but are there others? While jund alone didn't seem to be able to produce them, alara before it was broken and after it was repaired seemed capable, with malfegor and spellbound dragon

>>52878059
Great spell selection for a bard or entertainer. I'm impressed that you managed to pull it off without delving into green.

>>52878322
Ravnica used to; the kind of dragon that Niv-Mizzet is basically went extinct a long time ago and he's the last one.

>>52878322
Tarkir is an obvious one. Some Jund dragons are sentient aren't they?

>>52878457
tarkir is non-viable, their dragons are mana-constructs

>>52878322
do we know anything about the intelligence of innistradi or mirrodin-born dragons?

>>52878531
Oh that's right. I forgot about that.

I guess most of us did, because there was a Tarkir dragon in the previous storm I think. Maybe the first one.

>>52878595
Some Innistrad dragons are smart enough to hunt vampires and werewolves specifically.

The D&D book also says to use the red dragon stat block for most of them, so I guess maybe they can talk?

>>52878631
m8, you just crossed materials.

>>52878658
There's specific PDFs for running games in Magic the Gathering settings using D&D 5e. Official ones, too.

>>52878658
I mean the actual Planeshift: Innistrad book that WotC put out. It says to use the Red Dragon stat block for regular Innistrad Dragons and Brass for the Moonveil ones.

>>52878765
>>52878736
I still wouldn't put too much stock in it. They probably did this just to simplify it.

>>52878801
It's the only thing we have to go on. Obviously we don't have anything saying Innistradi dragons are sentient, but also don't have anything going directly against it.

Jeesh I didn't think that someone would have a conniption over my flakes colors.

>>52873869
To be honest I didn't start out developing this character as RB, they actually started out GW. But someone told me that Red is the most artistic and expressive color. The problem is, I dislike how Red interacts with both White and Green so I redesigned this character putting Red front and center.
I wanted to make a flashy self-absorbed asshat and R/B are the two best colors for that.

Bard magic is all about supporting your allies (giving +1s and other benefits), briefly taking control of opponent creatures, and messing up their emotions and minds to distract them (dispensing -1s, discarding cards and so on.)
I thought I did a good job representing a bard

>>52878863
Really, I think the lot of you should just take a step back and reconsider what aspects of being a bard are in play here, instead of just doing the archetypical thing.

>>52878322
Nalathni dragons are small but intelligent.
Nekoru, or cat-dragons, are also intelligent.
Shivan dragons are apparently intelligent.

That's all I can confirm.

>>52878926
And just what do you mean by that?

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Choose an integer that is equal to or greater than one while also being equal to or less than six.

>>52879290
Four.

Hey, I'm making a flake with one.

Rolled 5 (1d6)

>>52879290
Here you go, my dude.

>>52879272
That you're all throwing the word "bard" around and then being strict on what that means. Just design the goddamned flake.

>>52879374
No because if you say you are making a necromancer and don't include any spells about raising the dead or other spiritual nonsense then what is the point?
You say you are making a bard, then it better be recognizable as such. Bards don't manipulate Aether or see into the future.

>>52879613
All I'm saying is that every flake is going to be different. Saying "it's a bard, so it can't do X or has to do Y" is silly, because any number of things about the character could suggest otherwise. As long as some form of bard (which is something that has had some meaning skewed by fantasy gaming) is being represented, the other details are personal.

>>52879664
So what makes them a bard?

>>52880236
The discussion is all over the thread, but I'm not sure where it starts.

>>52880236
To be honest, I would consider a bard to be any kind of entertainer that focuses mainly on music.

>>52879613
A bard on Kaladesh might learn how to manipulate aether though.
My G/W walker was going to end up on Ravnica and become Abzan colors. Even when I remade this character I was going end up adding White... or so I thought. I just really don't like the way Red and White interact.
I also dislike the way Red and Green interact.
Leaving only Blue, which I don't mind B/U or U/R.

It's a work in progress but I think I've got an explanation. He's got an odd trait, to him sounds produce colors. All magic also produces a tone that he can hear and colors he can see. Using this information he can defend against it, (like discarding it, canceling it or redirecting it somewhere else.)
This is very much a WIP.

>>52880598
Just because you say so is not a good argument.

>>52880662
Shit. Everything you've written is shit. From this travesty, to picking the wrong colors for bardic magic, and everything else. Just...... Stop.

>>52881099
(You)

>>52872695
>Because they needed to round out the color set for the Jacetice League.

it sucks that they pretty much wrote sorrin off

he was my favorite of the planeswalkers and probably would've been a better fit than liliana

>>52880662
But everyone can see magic? It's the reason counterspells work, redirection works the same way. Everyone knows what someone casting a spell looks like.

>>52881262
You are defending the indefensible. That is made up garbage. And you know it.

>>52881322
Right.
This is just how he understands spell casting and as I said... this is very much a work in progress. I could just say he's got weird magic vision.

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>Bothering to even make a Bard

What the fuck is this? Make Flakes that aren't shit.
Bards are the most forced character class ever, every explanation is more like an excuse.
It inevitably ends up being vague bullshit that goes up its own ass.

If being a bard is your snowflake's defining character trait, then your snowflake is doomed to be shitty and boring.

You can have a bard in any color as far as I'm concerned but the moment you try to sell them to people as a 'bard' you're outing yourself as a retard.

Bard is literally the wanker at the party playing an acoustic guitar class - nobody likes that person except 13 year old girls. And autists who don't realize women grow out of that phase. It's your jealous 13 year old boy self that thinks it's cool, no one else. Not even you.

>>52882009
(You)

>>52881322
So we can agree that supposed flake is pure shit and should be scrapped.
Next rb flake that mentions being a bard should be ignored.

>>52880798
You're arguing with the wrong guy. I stumbled into the mess and am trying to make heads or tails of it.

>>52881312
Sorin literally only cares about himself and Innistrad.

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I sacrificed my dignity and pride for this fucker

>>52882140
Not that guy, but I'll swing by later to make an example that proves you wrong about a bard in those colors. You just have to not suck at character design.

>>52882220
It's not just a problem with the colors but everything. Too many spells, Aether manipulation. And now being able to hear/see mana as sound and color.

There is no saving this. Just back off and ridicule this flake as the worst sue of this thread.

>>52882374
See now I agree with you that the flake is bad. It doesn't fit the concept of a bard, and the "hearing mana" thing is bullshit

But holy shit, stop being so fucking mad about it, yeah? This guy's flake didn't kill your fucking parents, chill out, man.

>>52882374
I don't think the colors are a problem at all, it's the rest of the flake that's shit.

>>52882452
This

>>52882374
>being able to hear sound as color
Somebody tried to get creative and make magical synesthesia. Too bad we don't have the lore to back that up.

>>52882452
I am just offering criticism for them. As they keep pointing out it is a work in progress. I'm telling them like it is. They need to start over.

>>52882742
Magical autism is real. Just look at Narset.

>>52882942
I have to disagree with you on methods. (Not necessarily on this case but in general) Sometimes you can isolate the ideas that matter most and retool everything else instead of scrapping everything. Some of the worst flakes have something about them worth salvaging.

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Which ravnica would you tap her shocklands?

>>52883094
Crappy edit.

>>52883035
There is nothing worth saving with this pile of crap.

>>52883223
Again, there may be things fundamentally wrong with the flake, but I would disagree with you 99.9% of the time on this.

If everyone says my idea is terrible, maybe I should give up. Clearly making fanwalkers is not for me.

>>52882742
I thought the idea of magical synesthesia would be interesting so I was toying around with it.
Clearly it was not.

>>52883272
A bard on Kaladesh who can magically control/taint Aether and can see/hear mana.
Nothing is worth saving here. Not a damn thing.

>>52883406
You're fixating. This is why we disagree.

>>52883308
You just overstepped the lore a touch, and that other guy is overreacting. I suggest taking a step back and avoiding aether. There's too much about it that we don't fully understand.

>>52879613
"Bard" isn't nearly as consistent as "necromancer" in what it actually does.

>>52883553
I am not wrong. Aether manipulation would be too overpowered on a Plane like Kaladesh. If they did exist they'f have been captured and studied like an insect. Or forcibly turned into a weapon for either the consulate or whatever rebel group.

And you can't hear mana. You shouldn't know the colors. It's so retarded.

>>52884045
I thought people actually were aware of the colors of mana?

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Aether can be manipulated on other planes. And it's not even as prevalent as it is on Kaladesh.

>>52884098
Nope.

>>52884098
Nope. They're just aware of certain traits.which is just another reason why the idea is terrible. Magical synesthesia is just..... no.

>>52884098
People from Dominaria know, apparently Elspeth knows but not many others as far as we know.

>>52884098
That was pre-revisionist. Nowadays, people don't say "Oh, you're a white mage. Hi white mage.". ANYONE can use any type of magic, it's just that they prefer certain types, or a change in their personality or an event can alter how their magic forms. Take for example Nissa. She is normally monogreen, but her shift into simic came about after meeting Yahenni and trying to get out of her comfort zone. She's discovering and learning new things,meaning she'll be more comfortable using other forms of magic. She didn't "gain access" to blue mana or spells, she always had access, but only now is she using it.

>>52884236
Not everyone from Dominaria, like a very few number of people, maybe less than a hundred. Bolas knows, Ugin knows but probably not any other walkers.

So yeah. I am right.
Hearing magic and seeing colors is a shit idea.

>>52884098
They just tag different kinds of mana as how they understand them. On Ravnica, an Izzet Mages may refer to red as pyromania, Golgari call black necromana, etc.

>>52884409
Fuck you, autocorrect

>>52884098
Eeeeh, long, touchy story. The Thran knew nothing of the colors of mana, but Yawgmoth was able to derive some of its properties, such as reaction to the five "Great Metals". Color was poorly understood in the time of the Brothers, but Feldon and the other Third Path Scholars kinda noodled it out. Years later (In story) in the Gathering Dark (which is NOT Pre-rev), Color was very well understood by the likes of Marsil and Jodah. Knowledge of color followed through the Weatherlight Saga as a thing, at least for planeswalkers and powerful mages like Urza, Serra, and so forth.

Since we finally departed Dominaria though, it's been a little more iffy. Mirrodin and Shandalaar might have some concept of color separation since their worlds seem to, but despite the chromatic arrangement of the Guilds, Ravnica doesn't as far as we know. Generally, I feel like they've de-emphasized color as an in-setting thing since a) They've started (since Rav 1) playing it faster and looser with what counts as one of the five basic lands; and b) it can sound a little dopey if you talk about it and don't apply a lot of skill and care to the discussion.

>>52884431
No you got it correct the first time.

>>52884342
Yes you are.
That was a terrible fanwalker. >>52884463
And clearly knowledge like this should beyond the understanding of a Neo-walker. Further proving the point that magical synesthesia is a dumb idea and can never be salvageable.

>>52884709
>And clearly knowledge like this should beyond the understanding of a Neo-walker
I don't want to defend magic synesthesia, since it's a terrible idea, but I will say that a neowalker with a background in arcane academia could quite reasonably know about color. There's no reason to suspect that the likes of Tolaria West don't still teach about the colors as distinct branches of magic. Of course, that does depend where they studied. For instance, A Kamigawan 'walker like Tamiyo has basically no chance unless they learned color somewhere else, though, since Kamigawa has a fruity magic system that doesn't work like the rest of the multiverse.

>>52885401
>>52884709
Basically, how you label mana depends on how everyone you learn about it from interprets it.

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>>52859491
Good to see that the thread managed to chill out.

>>52886103
I got that reference

>>52886103
I'm having trouble seeing enough green in his bio, could you elaborate?

>>52887314
Classed as a druid, having conquered the nature of his home realm, and having an inherent interest in strength, and a weird obsession with the idea of "survival of the fittest."

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Dumping walkers from my table top MTGRPG

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Old ones I made don't be too harsh on these

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>>52886103
This was on ice for a while, but it makes for an interesting reference.

For anyone who enjoys edgy late-night writefaggotry, I present to you a tale of my flake: Koda Palefur

A Meeting With A Vampire
https://pastebin.com/4PrnEkv3

Careful not to cut yourself

>>52860037
>I'm not sure that I understand why they would make a new mechanic to overwrite fear
To stop the newbies from falling into an infinite loop of
>Enchanted creature has fear
>Has fear? What does fear do?
>Enchanted creature has fear?
>Has fear? What does fear do?

>>52883094
where the fuck is simic's dick

>>52887459
>>52887401
>>52887412
>hybrid mana
STOP
T
O
P

what is synesthesia and why is it so bad?

>>52890626
It's a condition in which certain senses react to stimuli not usually related to them, such as your brain causing you to see colors when you hear music.

Sage for potential troll post.

>>52890626
It's a disorder that causes certain stimuli to be percieved with the wrong sense, generally caused by "crossed wires" in the brain. Examples of this are musicians seeing colours when they hear sound, people tasting food when they hear numbers, and people smelling stuff when they feel texture.
Overall it can be useful in some cases (autists able to memorize long strings of numbers and do advanced mathematics quickly) but is generally nothing much worth talking about.
It has however been gaining traction since the fetishisation of mental disorders, leading it to be considered a "mary sue" trait, in the same vein as heterochromia.
If you want to know more, google is your friend and scholar.google is your friend with a degree.

>>52890813 >>52890836
That sounds awesome

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/tasigurblins/
Is this deck good?

>>52890836
>"Mary sue trait"
Is this why people are so angry about this?
I just came across it and thought it would be a neat idea to incorporate into my walker. I didn't mean for it to spiral into this mess I've found myself in.

>>52891554
It's more that it's been used a few times as a meaningless add-on to make a shitty character seem more interesting, I think their main complaints are more that being able to see the colour of magic would be getting a bit close to old-walker knowledge, which has been all but retconned, because wizards just don't know how to handle it.
Honestly, people would be less angry if you just made it and said "So fucking what? It's not a major part of the character". The key to making friends on 4chan is letting people know you don't really give a shit about their opinion.
Just have fun and make what you want to make. Seriously, stop sweating about it, it'll be fine.

>>52875402
>What bullshit do you think anons are gonna pull this flakestorm? Will we get a time-traveller who literally rends apart the multiverse for his waifu? Will we get a planeswalker who uses brown mana? Will we get a monocolored pw with multicolored spells that are mostly legendary creatures?
It sounds like I missed some fun bullshit. You guys have done this once before, I take it?

>>52891685
Twice. All of those things happened, in some way,
except instead of brown mana it was purple
Fuck Vronak

>>52891708
That sounds deliciously cancerous. Details? I need some entertainment right now.

>>52891789
No.

>>52891789
Yeah, I don't want to post the links to the sheets one by one, but you can take a look through the old storm archive. The flakes you're looking for are Vronak, William, and Renara.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B-bqTtfMpEHWQm9yd3pwTlV0am8?ths=true

>>52891708
Speaking of which...
>>52882210

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>>52891835
>Two Vronaks

>>52891835
That sounds like a lot of reading. I like being spoonfed

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>>52891789
Purple mana was literally just Black but better, he didn't even try.

>>52891920
Will used time travel, that's all you really need to know. Vronak was the resident autist that made me look high functioning by comparison, his character was based around his reanimator deck which contained mostly legendary angels and Jin-Gitaxus. Having any legend as cards your flake uses is frown upon but he had almost only legends. Also wrote bad fanfiction staring canon characters.

Is that enough? I don't remember Renara.

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>>52892010
The alternate color wheel in general was a stupid concept. You could LITERALLY fit each one with a single color, too.

>>52892010
Who's that chick? Looks cute!

>>52892053
Clockwise from purple:
Red, Black, Green, Blue, White.
How'd I do?

>>52892098
I got the same, but brown is more of a second white imo, with some blue aspects.

>>52892094
Angel slut, wants to be fucked by Avacyn. Apparently Hitler. Got raped by Emrakul, I think.

>>52892203
Also Vronak hit on her
Like, the anon. As in, Vronak, the guy who made and wrote terrible flakes, hit on Serena, the anon who made an angel flake named Serena, called so because it would be awkward to call her "the anon who made Serena and some other characters"

>>52892203
No, just lost her way to madness and sadness. Having your home plane wrecked and everyone you look up to killed or turned into monsters will do that.

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>>52892369
>Innistrad post-Eldritch moon
I feel like cosmic/psychological horror was a good fit for Innistrad, but it sucks that most of the plane got FUCKED

>>52863065
Vronak?
Is that you?

>>52891680
Or their character could just be shitty.

Okay what if...

>Legendary Zombie Elspeth the Returned
>Legendary Enchantment Spirit Elspeth, Eidolon of Valor
>Melds into Elspeth, Knight Radiant

>>52892466
And it stands as the sweetest love Eldrazi have made to any plane.

Try having original (actual) Zendikar as your favorite plane, see how that works out for you.

>>52878059
Nice, but:
>Picks up tricks from Lorwyn Faeries
>Has literally no Lorwyn spells in his selection

Sort of u wot-tier.

>>52893633
>meld
Get out.

>>52892053
The only flaw is that you can't have a yellow/brown flake.

>>52893741
>Try having original (actual) Zendikar as your favorite plane, see how that works out for you.
Better than Innistrad. I mean, it still got raped, but not quite so bad. There's a hunk of ashen wasteland where some of your landmarks used to be but it's mostly better. Even a lot of the movers and shakers like Iona are still truckin'. Innistrad lost more characters and god abandoned in a fairly uncertain position (we have no idea how much of the population just up and died). Avacyn is gone forever as are two of the three powerpuff girls, most werewolves have been wiped twice now (once by becoming wolfir, once by becoming emrakulspawn), Thraben was assraped, Hanweir just fucking walked off the map... which wouldn't be so bad if Innistrad were a FUCKHUGE plane like Zendikar with seventy billion notable landforms and population centers, able to absorb the loss of something like Sea Gate, but recognizable places in Innistrad were basically Thraben, Hanweir, A couple nephalia towns like Selhoff and Ulm, Avabruck (Which might have been fucked too), and "Name not announced" provincial villages.

Now I'll yield the floor to the one fucker who actually liked Mirrodin as a plane (and not Phyrexia) to bitch about it.

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>>52893633
>Not just Elspeth, God of Justice
>And repeating a terrible mechanic to boot

>>52895290
Wake me when they break Ravnica even harder.

>>52895290
I seriously hope they explore the plane of Innistrad beyond the almost UK-sized landmass. They said that there were once elves on Innistrad, and there are more beasts than werewolves out there. Plus, who is the port town of [name] trading with?
>>52895330
Ravnica has been the least fucked plane out of all of them. No planar catastrophe and when there was almost one, it was prevented. Even without the Guildpact, they're still relatively stable.

>>52895330
Now that I'd like to see. Hopefully at its own hands, with Vraska ganking Jace to end the Guildpact and the Gateless rising to make the resulting power struggle an eleven-way war that ends with the guilds dead and what little is left of the populace turning the whole scenario into a Mad Max post-apocalyptic wasteland version of NYC.

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>>52895402
Dear god, no
Just have a plane all nice and prepackaged as a post-apocalyptic wasteland where some plane-wide event fucked it up. Maybe have it as a torn and scarred plane that can't die because there are no Eldrazi to finish it
Shit, what if that's why Amonkhet is so fucked up and Bolas planned for the Gatewatch to stop the Eldrazi so that he could keep it alive long enough to amass an army or something

>>52895394
Yeah, Innistrad Beyond the Provinces would be pretty sweet. If the area we know is Fantasy Europe (having its heavy british and german vibes), there should be a Weird New World to explore, hopefully chock full of skinwalkers, wendigo, and every other horror native north american mythology and colonial/ozark style superstition can throw at us. They said when working on the original Innistrad that the "Halloween witch" concept didn't quite make it since it wasn't really 'gothic'. By god I want to see Innistrad's witch-haunted Not!Salem.

>>52895485
Sorry bro, but the harder Ravnica gets fucked, the happier I'll be. And considering that at least the Golgari and Izzet provide some really important social services (and probably need at least one of the Azorius or Boros to temper them) and the entire plane is a city, it's going to get grim as hell if the guilds are taken out.

>>52895538
>Hoping to get away from the pretty fucked up land of Innistrad, some pilgrims move to a recently discovered land
>But the fear and paranoia of the area makes them fearful of the natives living there
>New transform cards that trigger when several spells are cast, as a parallel to how werewolf transformations are triggered
>More curses and creatures that benefit from or benefit curses
>Meanwhile, in an eerie series of islands east of Innistrad, oriental style magic and hexes run rampant in the area

So far all the planes we've been to/been showcased have all had all five manas/lands.
Even small planes like Kaladesh which honestly just sound like the city Ghirapur and the surrounding area have all five.

Can there be pocket dimensions where it's just... two or three mana? Like a plane of just Fire, home to wild fire elementals and spirits? And it's just Red/Green

>>52895819
No. It would collapse in on itself due to the instability. See: Serra's Realm and Old Phyrexia.
The Green Sun saved Mirrodin from potential collapse

>>52895819
Those planes collapse. There are some single color planes, but those get destabilized as soon as someone visits them, because they aren't of pure X mana.

>>52895538
I want to see sexy Halloween witches in magic

>>52895879
What was keeping the shards of alara from collapsing before the conflux?
They lacked two colors each.

>>52895974
I think all the shards were still kinda sorta connected.

>>52895974
Each shard was still loosely connected, like slices of pizza with cheese in between.

Any kind anons willing to provide feedback for special snowflake writefaggotry?

It's my first attempt at a mono black character.
>>52887918

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true art is incomprehensible, right?


Those • are pronounced like choked intakes of breath, and the exclamation is a tongue click, and the § is like someone with a lisp trying to pronounce "sh".

If the name isn't transcribed perfectly into the snowstorm I will SUE

>>52887918
Things to note that I spotted before I even started to read:
>You don't need to (and shouldn't) indent paragraphs for material intended to be read online.
>Start a new paragraph before you write any dialogue.

>>52896237
I'm calling him Kroger

>>52895538
>recreating colonial Britain in magic
I have several reasons why that will never happen

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Your snowflake is jumping between planes when suddenly this guy planar overlays up to you and smacks you on the ass.

How fucked are you?

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>Seeing mana is stupid
why would you post that?

>>52896405
Answer: Very. That guy was competitive with Urza, Mended 'walkers ain't got a chance.

>>52896237
Wtf am I looking at right now?

I think I like it.

>>52895290
At least the return to Innistrad felt like a return to Innistrad, my nigga. Zendikar block got ruined by Rise of the Eldrazi twice.

>>52896237
You have simultaneously earned all of my love for fantastic graphic design and all of my hate for making the snowstorm that much more frustrated for me.

>>52895585
>Wanting yet another grand apocalypse storyline
>Ruining what is perhaps the most interesting setting for this

y tho

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Bant's pretty hard to make something interesting out of. I enjoy writing UGx stuff normally but for some reason, introducing white just makes it a bland mess.

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>>52896662
>Ravnica
>Interesting

Anon...

>>52895819
Amonkhet and Kaladesh are both more than the cities that they're set in, it's just that the creative team are too lazy to write out actual worlds for the characters to explore and settle for just writing out cities instead.

>>52896405
He'd wreck any neo-walker in existence. Maybe even Bolas.

>>52896716
Ravnica was probably the most popular modern, pre-mending plane.

>>52896716
Guild intrigue is fun though. There's always something happening thanks to half the guilds being crazy and the other half being psychotic.

>>52896745
Neowalker Bolas is still literally an elder dragon.

>>52896716
>crazy-diverse city
>wilds that are explained in story, given life and description
>several factions with different interests and purposes
>afterlife explored

Pick four.

>>52896730
Ah yes how could I forget; the massive desert surrounding Amonket filled with zombies and wurms, and the massive mountain range Kaladeshites don't cross because there is nothing but a frozen death on the other side.

>>52896855
The plane is inconvenient on purpose so the story can be centralized

>>52896855
Which are purposefully written into existence so that the creative team doesn't have to write about a vast and expansive world and just a small, compact area.

>>52896769
And Gix is literally made to kill Old Walkers

>>52896855
IIRC, there are at least implications of farther places in Planeshift: Kaladesh.

>>52896891
Bolas and his siblings were so brutal that wurms exist.

>>52896664
qt

>>52896884 >>52896877
I understand why, I'm just not happy about it.
I wish we got a better introduction to planes. That way we get a little bit more information on different places on the plane and different cultures and could give the plane some illusion of depth.

Like on Kaladesh we just hop in right during the Inverntor's Fair and that is all we see. it would have been neat to find out about Freejam, Weldfast and Peema.

>>52896964
>were
Key word.

Bolas can still fuck planes though, if Amonkhet is any indication. Hence why he actually has game versus Gix while nobody else would.

>>52897143
>weird prehistoric African chicks with missing eyes are qt

Learn something new every day.

>>52896664
So this flake is like Nissa, capable of seeing magical stuff and can talk to planes?

>>52897415
Welcome to /tg/

>>52898270
No, she's a great deal weaker than that. She's just a magnet for the naturally occurring magic of the planes she visits. She's also capable of exerting some control over said magic after she's studied it sufficiently and come to understand it.

But she's nowhere near the level of Nissa, directly communicating with a plane is beyond her. At her best, she's able to decipher some inkling of the plane's disposition.

>>52898554
Would she eventually reach that level of understanding though?

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>>52883094
I actually made a very minor update to this a few months back.

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>>52896405
At least the blow would be cushioned. She'd still die though.

>>52901226
I like this way of drawing girls with really fat thighs.

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Choo choo, motherfuckers.

>>52901428
If she lost black mana, why is Fusion Elemental still in her spell list?

>>52901596
I just wanted a multicolor element, tbqh. Pretend the black isn't there, since it's just for flavor anyways.

>>52901632
Sure.
Also, get in the fucking discord.

>>52901657
Christ, you're fucking demanding.

What's the link, kohai?

>>52863647
I like him a lot. A planeswalker bar sounds neat. There was one last storm I think. We could use one this time around.

We should all do a quick writefagging where our flakes visit this niggah's bar.

>>52901686
https://discord.gg/4mSsc99 my dude

>>52901686
it's on the group page in an announcement

>>52886103
>>52901428
Are these two and Bellugi the only oldwalkers we have so far? Just curious.

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Reposting with added Lorwyn spells.

>>52901909
Venn got reposted. Mysel got rescued from the abyss that was the dying edge of the last storm.

>>52902653
? oh, no. I meant literal oldwalkers. Like, premending.

>>52901909
Fuar Linn is pre-mending.

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>>52901428
Full pic of Cel, btw.

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>>52903214
Another pic I drew a bit ago.

>>52899697
Could she? Maybe after decades of meditation and binding herself to a single plane, to the point where her will becomes inseparable from that of the land she's bound to.
Would she? No. To be frank, the last time she came close to being the conduit for a plane's will was when her eye was carved out and Muraganda went to town on her eye socket. It definitely soured her on the idea of speaking directly with worlds. Understanding them is fine and being on their good side is better but communicating with an entire plane is scary as fuck and isn't something a mortal should do.

>>52903726
I feel like Zenaye and this chick >>52901428 would get along. They both seem to be mana-whores.

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>>52901909
I was thinking about bringing back my very first walker, but decided against it because he's kind of a mess.

>>52904006
holy shit

>>52901909
Ushikawa was one too.

>>52906583
So that gives us what, 4? I'm keeping a list for personal reasons.

>>52907644
the flake I'm working on could have technically been an oldwalker due to how long he's lived, but his spark only ignited after the mending, so I'm not sure if you should count him or not?

>>52907701
Nah, he'd still be a neowalker at that point. Just a really old one.

>>52907644
tell us these reasons, friend

I'm tempted to make an oldwalker flake just because the discussion is up and about.

>>52908813
Their reaction to the Mending and their sudden mortality should be relevant. There's no point making an oldwalker if you're not going to play with the biggest dilemma that faces oldwalkers.

Since we're on the topic of age, how old is/are everyone's flake(s)?

>>52908973
Assuming nezumi have a similar lifespan to humans, Koda is early 20s.

>>52908973
Ushiwaka is one or two centuries older than Lili.

>>52908973
>Poff
About 2
>Wisp
Almost 3
>Cel
Really really fucking old

>>52908973
>Salum
Old. He's a loxodon.

>Salina
Adult for a Ravnican merfolk.

>Costin
I dunno, maybe like, 14?

>Tyral
Adult for a Viashino

>Karrok
Adult for a Troll.

>Mysel
The Ravnican equivalent of being almost 30.

>>52908973
Zenaye probably was around thirteen or fourteen during her ignition. She likely left Tarkir around the age of seventeen and is probably going on nineteen at this point in time.

>>52908973
>Serena
About 27

>Leanne
About 20

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>>52908813
Well, I did a thing...

>>52909954
>EEEEEELLLLLLVVVVVVEEEEESSSSSSSSS

>>52909954
STOP
T
O
P

>>52909954
>Eiredia: Remember when, back in our day, kids didn't go around wrecking everything they tried to fix?
>>Celuél: No
>Well...uh...remember that one time with the tentacle horror on Dominaria? With the ice and the-
>>Nope.
>Oh...well then...
>>This was productive
>Yup

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Just a quick reminder, it's Wednesday and it's about time that some lore came out. Go and have a look at that, instead of shitposting about steel donuts.

>>52910360
I already read it
Emrakul is Nissa's new mom

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>>52910360
>Quick Reminder
>reminder

>>52910360
I think we've got enough candidates that asking this question isn't redundant.

Which of these shitty snowflakes would you take as your waifu?

>>52910786
Plaguelord

>>52910786
Jewdragon

What color would a magician who does it all for kicks be, blue or red? All about tricks, deception, and self enjoyment

>>52910929
Probably red. The motivation is all red, though the powerset you describe seems more blue. Of course, there's a reason identities other than monocolor exist.

>>52910929
Izzet
Misdirection is in blue, confusion is in red

>>52910929
>For kicks and self-enjoyment.
Red.
>All about tricks and deception.
Blue.

Mono-blue would trick and deceive with some sort of ulterior motive in mind, rather than for its own sake. Mono-red would pull more physical pranks, like setting someone's hair on fire or destroying a chair that someone's about to sit down on. Tricks for kicks is a case of blue methods with red intentions.

>>52908973
>Tristain
He was 18 when he left his home plane. Since then, he's lost track of the celestial calendar, but he estimates that roughly 6-8 years have passed.
>Loren
19.
Given all the oldwalker discussion, I think I'll put over together, too.

>>52910360
Holy Grixis ConspiracyWalkers batman!

Is the anon that made Kalana Ravan is on the discord?

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>>52909674
Here's Poff's sheet, btw. She's a flake from last storm I'm resurrecting for public use.

Wisp's sheet is in progress.

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>>52912451
Here's a picture of Wisp and Poff interacting. Wisp has a little kid crush on Poff, and he's trying to impress her with his pyromancy. Even though he's the most adorably pathetic pyromancer you've ever seen, it looks like his plan is working.

>>52908973
>Tsukiyo
Late 20's, not yet 30.

>>52912531
You should make his strongest spell Electrickery.

>>52912685
Yup, that's the plan. He's probably going to have, like, 5 spells. Levitate and Telepathy are defaults for mophits, and on top of that he'll have Electrickery and maybe one other burn spell. He'll probably have a hasting spell, too.

Anyone have any thoughts on his other burn spell(s)?

>>52912773
>Anyone have any thoughts on his other burn spell(s)?
Spark jolt? Flare?

>>52913050
I like Flare. I think that's a good one.

Is there a spell that has the flavor "light self on fire as a defense mechanism?"

>>52904006
I think this could be saved. Looooots of cutting down on stuff to do. And a major overhaul on what the bio should be about. They sound a bit too black/red as is and the exploits seem pretty extreme.

>>52913099
I mean, Fiery Mantle looks the part... but functionally it grants firebreathing.

>>52913392
that's an older one, has anything been changed about it?

>>52909435
>Assuming nezumi have a similar lifespan to humans
Do we have a canon answer to that? I'm curious now.

>>52915405
Pretty sure they live way shorter lives, but I could be wrong. The Kamigawa books should have it.

>>52915574
>>52915405
Koda-anon here. I honestly couldn't find one, but I didn't go back and re-read all the books. I'm just assuming they have similar life spans, but die faster because the Takenuma is a terrible place to live.

>>52915901
That's reasonable logic to go by.

>>52909954
Please don't tell me she's actually capable of doing anything about the Mending.

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>>52895930

>>52861183
Zendikar vampires, while not dead, are not capable of being planeswalkers for other reasons, what with being related to Ulamog and all.

>>52895290
And that's with Emrakul NOT trying to wreck the place!

>>52896237
Needs more creature types.
Pretty sure beast and snake fit.
Maybe horror.

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>>52917001
Ohey, someone reposted an old flake of mine.

Have a card version as a bonus.

We have an awful lot of flakes, but not much going on, maybe we should have people trying to write stories about what is happening to them/their interactions, I'll probably try to write a little for the next thread, but I don't write much, so don't expect anything good.

>>52918129
I'll be doing some writing after next week. There are some people in the writing process.

>>52908973
>Grandamin
About 24, he spends a lot of time hunting though, which isn't good for his skin. Overall looks about 34.
>Artemis Carsin
36, nearly old enough to be having a midlife crisis, and having several in a row with the gatewatch fucking everything up somehow.

>>52918129
There's some writing happening in the discord. We'll post when done.

>>52916972
Heck no. It's an insane goal, and totally impossible, but Oldwalkers are good at having insane, skewed priorities. Some of which can be managed, others... not

new thread
>>52919228
>>52919228
>>52919228