Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

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First for fear the bad scar.

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First for the ADEPTUS MECHANICUS 1000101010101011010011010110

FIRST FOR -Nick

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Do you think Mechanicus will get some new characters with Fires of Cyraxus? Never had a FW book before, for obvious reasons.

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Post your armies, or if you're like me, the start of it!

I want to see some beautiful models!

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>People are bitching about NuMarines, lore and shit
>I'm just sitting here waiting for new rules to but a Start Collecting and have fun with Kill Team

>>52858457
>Tyranids not important enough to be on the galactic map

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>>52858457
>mfw the upper galactic void is as calm as ever

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>>52858457
>The rock is closer to Terra then Fenris
>wolffags BTFO

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>>52858488
Grots!

Didn't see a wip thread so i'll ask here.
Anyone know what dusting means? The current WD has tips for painting SWA terrain and mentions dusting using spray cans.

>>52858536
Because they felt the need to run away as fast as they could from Chaos like the coward they are

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I DECLARE DECIMATION UPON THIS THREAD

>>52858536
They are going to Terra to conquer it, obviously

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>>52858513

DELUSIONAL NIDFAGS

B T F O
T
F
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>orks scattered around in bumfuck nowhere

oh good

>>52858457
Wait a minute, there is a huge warp storm right next to the Tau empire.

Does that mean Tau are going to be running in to some serious chaos shit soon?

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>>52858488
Forgive the light proxies but here's my terminators and dreadnought talon.

When I find the bases I use to proxy the grav devastators I'll post them too.

>>52858658
>tatical_genius.avi

>>52858516
Shockingly, the new edition invalidates existing bullshit combos. This has never happened before, how could they do this to us.

Curses, foiled again.

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>>52858488

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>>52858488
Still in progress but I have about 60-70% of a 2K force painted. Here's a small group of them.

>>52858715
Oh boy, did not expect the pic to be THAT bad...

>>52858734
They have many realities that feed them.

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>>52858488
For the Greater Good!

>>52858771
Yup.
RT didn't work with 2e.
2e didn't work with 3e.

>>52858548
Spray From farther away, so you create some fog of partially dried paint which wont Go less into crevices... Think of it as drybrushing with a spray can...

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toxic GW store managers

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>>52858488

Some Sororitas.

>>52858734
Since the AoS fluff came around, the gods don't give a single fuck about any universe. They have infinite realities to feed off, chaos can never be defeated there is no way to calm the realm of souls.

>>52858516
>No more turn 1 Maulerfiend charge?
How were you getting those?

>>52858832

da fuck is even going on

How sigmar works without templates?

>>52858832
What is this

>>52858457
What is that

I don't know where else to ask: is there a complete collection of the beast series ebooks? The mega folder that was posted in the general only has the first books.

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>>52858488
My cultists and a few marines are the only things in my CSM army that are actually painted but I'll get them done eventually!

>>52858933
You throw a number of dice and whatever models are hit are targeted. Bonuses occur when you actually damage models with better wound rolls.

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>>52858488
Tried again.

>>52858933
1d3/1d6/2d6 mortal wounds

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>>52858969
More dudes

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>>52858988
Well, it's better... 2nd squad. (A bit unfinished.)

>The Imperial Guard is Mankind’s primary and most numerous defence. With soldiers, battle tanks and artillery beyond number, they are the sledgehammer force that, though slow to deploy, delivers a devastating payload when its cumbersome blows land. Soldiers of the Imperial Guard are men, not gene-enhanced superhumans. They fight not with the most finely crafted armaments in the galaxy, but with the weapons and armour that can be cheaply and easily mass-produced.
>They are the largest coherent fighting force in the galaxy, able to move massed regiments and armoured vehicles across the segmentums to join any fray. As many foes of the Imperium have learned, the courage and sacrifice shown by the numberless ranks of the Imperial Guard combined with the sheer hell-storm of firepower they unleash, can sweep any battleground of foes, leaving only smoking craters and wet stains.

not gunna lie, that got be half chub just reading it

>>52858998
>>52858933
Fuck templates.

Flamer templates add some strategy to positioning but blast templates exist solely to slow the game down and cause arguments

>>52858933
You target a unit with an attack...
Then roll a d3 or d6. That's the number of hits it generates.
Roll to wound, roll saves; unless the attack generated mortal wounds, in which case if the targeted unit has a special rule (Like chaos warriors with shields) you use that to negate the mortal wounds, then you roll for that.

Next shooting.

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>>52859022
Aand a DW sargeant for vets... iirc

>>52859032

Not to mention the smaller blast template is worthless.

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>>52859032
This. Fuck templates, just look at wyvens

>>52859030
>
is that from the website?
will IG be great again?

>>52858933
If that word salad you posted was meant to ask how Age of Sigmar can work out without using templates, the answer is, via measuring.

Like, instead of flamer templates there's rules like, pick a unit and make one attack for every model of the unit within range. Then you measure that sixteen models are in range and then you roll hit and wound sixteen times.

For blasts, it's usually done like so: Weapons have a damage characteristic, ranging from 1 all the way to 2D6. So on stonethrowers and shit you make one shot with D6 damage and the damage rolls over, so if the unit consists of 1-Wound-models and you roll 5 damage, then it kills 5 of those models. If you attacked a single 5-Wound-Hero, it takes off all 5 of his Wounds. Such unit killer-weapons usually have some sort of bonus (better to hit, better to wound, reroll damage) when shooting at units of a certain size.

It works a lot better than you'd think it does.

>>52859068
Yeah, some of these blurbs are quite nice
https://warhammer40000.com/setting/explore-the-factions/

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>>52859030

>Not one use of Astra Militarum™ in those paragraphs

>>52859030
God damn, thats giving the guard the intro they deserve

>>52858933
>How sigmar works without templates?
Works very well actually

>>52859032
Usually i hit 1 model with small blast, if i get d3 that would be a fucking neato. So big blast will be d6 or 2d6?

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>>52858488
Here's my entire Chaos army, minus a couple in-progress things.

It really crept up on my how large it has gotten.

>>52858548

It means you do a light spray where the paint is still in specks like dust instead of a solid color you fucking mongoloid

"A light dusting" is a common English phrase

Stay in fucking school instead of shitting up this board

>>52859071
Amen brother. Not that I know much about it...my army doesn't have any of that. I get stupid fast shit that swoops in and murders things with grace and style, Khorne gets to fire explosives down range and blow people apart...even strait up slaves to darkness don't get that...

Come to think of it, Space Marines have thunderfire cannons but CSM have no artillery. DAMN IT!

What is the most popular and least popular faction from each of the 3 sides on the website (chaos, man, xenos)

>>52859172

Thousand Sons - SoB - Harlies

>>52859131
it will depends on how the designers feel i imagine, so a battle cannon might be 2d6 where as the air burst fragment launcher would be 1d6

>>52859172
CHAOS IS ALL THAT MATTERS! JOIN US IN THE SLAUGHTER OF THE GALAXY!

Really Necrons, Tyranids, and Chaos should've had roughly equal shots to come out on top.

Instead it's Chaos, and the other two can't even hold a candle to them because chaotic plot armor.

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>>52858488
nice to see a fellow carcharodons player!

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http://www.strawpoll.me/12812393
What are you playing (mainly)?

>>52858658
>tfw this made me remember a game in 3rd edition against my brother
Plastic termies were new and Necrons were still on their first codex. So I proxied my termie squad with blank 40mm bases.
Remember my 'terminators' and Chaplain chasing the Necron Lord over the table, while he was trying not to phase out.

Good times.

>>52859172
Most Popular: Marines, Chaos Marines, Tau or Craftworlds

Least Popular: Sisters of Silence, Thousand Sons, Harlequins

>>52859234

>wah waa waa why does the space cockaroaches not the winners my headcanon says so!

get the fuck outta here

>>52859234
>Really Necrons, Tyranids, and Chaos should've had roughly equal shots to come out on top.

Nah. Chaos are way more high tier in concept than robots or space bugs.

>>52858730
these look nice!

>>52859071
>So on stonethrowers and shit you make one shot with D6 damage and the damage rolls over, so if the unit consists of 1-Wound-models and you roll 5 damage, then it kills 5 of those models
...so terminators with d3 damage tunderhammers will be better at horde clearing than powerclaws termies?

>>52859172
Popular:
CSM - Ultras - Tau

Least:
TSons - Deathwatch - Harlequins

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>>52858488
Here's some of my favorite fists. I think I'll work on some lascannon guys today then bounce back to my deathwatch.

>>52859279
I mean, that's sensible in a lot of cases. Something like a Battle Cannon or a Vindicator will cause a big explosion that can kill a lot of dudes, but would also reasonably be expected to do a lot of damage if you focus that on one guy.

Similarly, something powerful like a Thunder Hammer or Lascannon would conceivably be very nice for just cleaving through squads of weaker guys, since it'll just blast straight through one and hit another.

>>52859267
Thank you very much!

WHEN THE FUCK ARE ORKS GETTING NEW SHIT

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>>52858488
The infantry of my Firstborn army.

>>52859303
>Dorito dreadnought with ayylmao launcher

>>52858836
Those are nice anon.

>>52859325
I hope they will remove gorilla-butts soon :3

>>52859263
>>52859260
It's not that Chaos won; it's that the endlessly swarming extragalactic warp-blocking hive mind hunger engine and immortal soulless super advanced galaxy molding death robots didn't have any role to play at all.

Those three should've all had a shot to come out on top. Instead, they weren't given a shot at all.

>>52859334
My hatred for the flying monstrous creature knows no bounds.

>>52859376
Oh I'm not shitting on you, I love it.

>>52859373
>Those three should've all had a shot to come out on top

As I already said. Nah. Chaos are way more high tier in concept than robots or space bugs.

>>52859367
Orks are the most iconic enemy in the setting

>>52858488
I really need to start a carcharodons army

Im so fucking hyped for 8ed. I hope they will nerf magic bullshit.

>>52859255
>>52859298
Neat, I'm new to 40k so was checking out the site.
I can see why marines are gonna be popular but why Tau?

>>52859403
Shame their models look like a shit - boyz are terrible. Look at the AoS orruks (inb4 le trademark meme) - thay have amazing new models. Releasing new boyz with new rules would start an Orks Renaissance

>>52859456

Chicks dig giant battlesuits.

>>52859172
My local meta
>Most Popular
Marines - Chaos Marines - Tau
>Least Popular
Grey Knights - Chaos Demons (Mixed)- Orks

>>52859433
this

Formations costing points, removing the grind of template spam, and unfucking the psychic phase

im rock hard

>>52859399
Nah, space bugs are more high tier in concept than robots or demons

>>52859456
Weeaboos.

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>>52859467
>orruks

>>52859467
Don't even need to look at the AoS models. Check out the new Bloodbowl range and it's a massive improvement for anyone who wants Boyz

>>52859467
boyz are iconic though, you cant get rid of the combat squat

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>>52859367
Be careful what you wish for, anon.

>>52859433
>tfw I bring a full Null Maiden Task Force to every game I play
fuck psykers

>>52859483

The entire Tyranid race doesn't even have the depth of a single Traitor Legion, nevermind all of them.

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>>52859476
Slight misquote there. Beep Boop, motherfucker.

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>>52859497
A|HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>52859390
Thanks! I do hope they come out with the invuln save hat soon, though. The ayy launcher is a bit over the top sometimes.

>>52859483
No they're not.
They're probably the most low tier of the three because they're simple biological life forms.

Chaos meanwhile are extra dimensional beings beyond space and time. Tyranids and Necrons are no more capable of beating them than the Tau or a nest of ants.

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>>52859456
>why Tau
Neat models (not even talking about Jaegers - look at the infantry), great rules, lovely retro-SciFi aesthetic (matter of taste - I like them like this), diacritic lore - plenty of reason

>>52859497
Wallork and Grotmit: The Wrong Trousers

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>>52859497

>>52859497
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH

>>52859330
Those look fucking cool. Always loved the firstborn. They just seem to fit in the setting better than most IG regiments.

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>>52859497

>>52859579

Too bad the models are so fucking out of scale it ain't even funny.

>>52859526
GW writers please leave

>>52859509
Sure, and if that justifies Chaos winning, fine.

Again, my problem isn't with the outcome. It's with the road we took to get there. If the Necrons and Hive Mind had actually put some plans in motion and Chaos had defeated them via whatever means, cool. Instead the writers just decided those two factions can't actually do what half of their fluff said they could.

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>>52859497
Greenskinz gonna be great again - I feel it like I felt about free core rules, dropping the codices and rend

>>52859467
Honestly, the only real flaw in the ork range is the weird buttock tube on the boyz. The new vehicles all look amazing, the runts are great, the nob-sized models have much better poses. I just put pouches on all the boyz backsides and they look fine.

I'm tempted to buy a Harlequin Kill Team for SW:A. Good idea?

Also, can someone please explain why every single time I go to the GW website, it picks some random country's currency, usually norway, australia, germany, or japan, to display prices? I know the "Delivering to" button is in the top right, but I'm just confused as to why it seems to randomize every time I go to the site.

>>52859610
>GW writers please leave

This isn't GW, this is the standard.
Biological being < Robotic being < Energy being

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RGG here. I dont get to play as often as GGA but I'm still here to serve with another kill team night. First game is boring nids vs Death Guard but I can play by play mine if you guys would like.

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>>52859636
i dont like the AOS orks because they just look like generic badguy greenskins


warhammer ork/cs have always had character and attitude

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>>52858488
First ever army, glory to the Omnissiah

>>52859653
>I'm tempted to buy a Harlequin Kill Team for SW:A. Good idea

no

>>52858424

The results still coming in on 8th ed.

http://www.strawpoll.me/12801571/r

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>>52859691
Orruks have plenty character.

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>>52859601
Are they though?

Are there ever going to be new scout models?

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>>52859497
>Speed Freak Kommandos tip-toe in to the enemy base, silently disposing of the sentries with their rokkits.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdJg6Duzzf4

>>52859751
yup, right after new Sisters

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>>52858488
Postan my Guardians of the Covenant 3rd company demi.
Gonna add some more assault marines and a couple of rhinos.
and then an IK Crusader

>>52859664
Therefore C'tans>Chaos.
And guess who captured those energy beings again?

>>52859774

I just want to build Raven Guard but the scouts are so fucking ugly :(

>>52859715
>1.54 MB
> >>52858488
> Here's my entire Chaos army, minus a couple in-progress things.
they could use some shade.

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>>52858488
I don't have any good up close shots of my army, but this game pretty much displays all the stuff I have painted plus stuff I'm working on.

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>>52859685
>guard is so generic their armies are differentiated only by their primary colour

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>>52859775
couple close ups

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>mfw cheetah-fucker will be banned again

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>>52859751
>tfw plastic scout models are still new to you

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>>52859800

>>52859800
mh shit quality sorry

>>52859781
>Therefore C'tans>Chaos.

Nope. Both are energy beings.
But Chaos is extra-dimensional energy beings and we all know that extra-dimensional > non extra-dimensional.

>And guess who captured those energy beings again?


The robots, but only after they were severly weakened.

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>>52859751

>mfw I see SM players putting guardsmen/scion heads on scouts

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>>52859794
>blue Orks
Do all their boyz want to be like the Ultramarines and recognize Marneus Calgar as their Spiritual Liege?

>>52859808
>Oruuks

Favourite shades to use?
Also, what to wash Mephiston with?

>>52859848
I did that too, but for Veterans with Carapace armor and shotguns.

>>52859848

I've literally been waiting like 5 years at this point.
>"Oh they'll release new scouts soon, i'll just keep waiting."

NEVER. EVER.

>>52859869
Carroburg

>>52859751
Yeah new true scale scouts.

>>52859775
Starting to look real sharp.

>>52859497
Those legs are some of the most terrifying things I've seen on a mini.

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>>52858488
13 of ~70 planned dudes painted, 3 still need basing. Maybe I'll play some kill team when 8th launches.

>>52859943
Those are amazing. What unit are you using them as? And what are all the coats from?

>>52858488
1/3
Re-did the force weapons on my GK. I still have the rest of the army to go.

>>52859943
I like those, nice job. Granted, I think those Vanguard heads improve any human model tenfold. Are those Victoria greatcoats or something else?

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>>52859982
>forgetting picture

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>>52859765
I remember that thread about "Life in the IG" where one anon ended up writing a whole story about a guardsman doing incredible thing, at some point being part of Freebooters crew, and coming in the way of Tau ships. He goes to ask the Ork Kaptin and it went something like this:

>'Do you have any furtive ships?
>Wat's dat?
>Ships that can't be detected!
>Oi, yea' roit', sneaky ones! Yeh sure, the purple ones in the hangar, they're roight sneaky!
>What does that them being purple has anything to do with them being sneaky?
>Ya ever seen a purple ork? No? Dere ya go.'
>*You suffer a minor stroke*

I wish I had taken a screenshot of that post, or at least archived the thread.

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>>52859997
2/3
My Grotesquerie for my DE. Posted my Ravager last night, too.

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Bad time to start an army, right?

I'd love Emperor's Children and I love Slaanesh, an army of mad mutant manchildren wearing the the most psychotic and gaudy colours they can. Just look at this guy.
I imagine it would be hard to paint though, it's gotta be bad but in a good way, you know?
Too bright and contrasting on purpose without looking genuinely shit.

No point starting them now when everything is changing but how long until the next edition?
Do we have a number?

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>>52860040
And the Ghostkeel for my Tron-Tau.

Can a SM Veteran Apothecary take a power weapon or no? Battscribe on my phone says I can, but on my PC I can't, and I'm just unsure.

>>52860024
Well, they must have been pretty sneaky if they had them on board the whole time and he never even noticed.

>>52860058

If you want to get a start before the next edition drops, troops would probably be a pretty safe way to go. GW's promised (whatever that's worth) that all existing models will get rules, and presumably basic infantry will still have a place in the game.

>>52860071
Consult the codex, battle-brother.

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Are there any decent WH painters worth following them on twitter and/or instagram?

>>52859980
IG infantry, greatcoat legs are from Victoria Miniatures

>>52859994
Blessed be the future Sallet, and yeah good eye.

>>52860128
Duncan is always posting his WIP's.

>>52860071
No. In a command squad, only the veterans can take options and the apothecary is not a veteran so he can't take them.

>>52860109
I'm just unsure if making a Veteran an Apothecary makes it, like, no longer a Veteran. All it says is the upgrade gives the vet a Narthecium, but not what else it can/can't take
Thank you for your patience

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>>52860024
>>52860088
Found it! Some saint of an anon made a screenshot before the thread went down! Happy reading folks! It was actually pretty compelling.

>>52860058

Absolutely terrible. We are on the verge of new Emperor's Children models with the release of Fulgrim. You really want to buy the current Marines and the NM upgrade kits?

>>52860140
what I find interesting about duncans WIPs is that the stuff he paints for himself are rather unremarkable compared to the stuff he paints for GW.

>>52859685
Nobody wants any of your guardfags here spamming your shitty looking armies. You and gay guard anon need to fuck off.

>>52860164
I consulted the faq for this matter earlier today, and nor the Apothecary nor the Champion can take equipment besides the one they recieve with the upgrade.
So no power weapons for the apothecary nor storm shields for the champion.

>>52859512
>robots
Thousand Sons CSM should get the pre-heresy psyker versions of those.

>>52860171
Where did GW touch you? I assumed you were molested to be such an asshole.

>>52860128
Instagram has loads of painters, and Golden Demon winners at that.

Andywardlenetwork comes to my mind, daemonrich, probably all the others GD winners as well. Sexyyellowguy is also pretty good by virtue of being a resident /tg/ guy. It's a small world really, just look at the names of the people liking the stuff of GD winners and you'll find loads of painters.

>>52860204
Wow that's so fucking dumb, holy shit
That's bud

Please let Legion of the Damned survive into new rules!

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XENOS KEKED AGAIN

>>52859556
>retroscifi
there's nothing retro about the tau's aesthetic
it's basic millenial scifi visuals
they even update them to stay current

>>52860256
>the value of every race is based upon its supposed threat to the Imperium
Imperi-centrist Historical Revisionism must be stopped.

>>52860140
Whats his instagram name?

>>52860256
Big whoop. Chaos gonna get (again) the most humiliating loss.

>>52860355
I don't know. I don't use Instagram. His twitter handle is @WHTV_Dunc

>>52860358
Nah, Chaos fags complained too much. The fluff will now focuse on them and the guillimarines, and in the end Chaos will win and the imperium will never recover because its fucking covered in demons now.

Do y'all think 8e will allow me to run a Librarian in my small BT force? Fuck the fluff, I want a god damn wizard with my holy knights

>>52860437
Then play Grey Knights.

>>52860358
>chaos blew up cadia
>humiliating loss.
Chaos players have an inferiority complex.

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>>52860462
>super speshul snowflakes : The Faction
Yeah, no thanks

So, I'm reading the SWA rules for the first time. Do specialists not cost points?

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>>52860437

>BT
>with Librarians

How are troops meant to go up and down from a skyshield landing pad? None od the images seem to show any access points or ladders

>>52860479
>implying BT are not snowflakes

>>52860487
Specialists are bought with ingame resources.

>>52860510
I think they jump. At least based on what I'm seeing.

>>52860510
I'm assuming you fold or cut down one of the barricade sections and build terrain for them to go in and out of it there.

>>52860521
What if you're just playing a pick up game?

Want to make a Crook and flail for my 1ksons sorcerer. How do?

>>52860560
Greenstuff?

>>52860510
If you look, there's a ladder on the inside of each of the legs, as well as a small hatch near the top of each corner.

>>52860559
Properly just agree with your opponent that you'd both get the same amount of resources to spend on specialists.

Also if you are after more advice there is a Shadow War thread lurking in the catalog that's fairly populated.

>>52860592
Oh, whoops. I have both threads open, I thought I was posting in /swag/, my bad

>>52860510
The ladders are on the inside of the pillars holding it up. You can see hatches molded on the pad to indicate where the models would emerge.

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>>52860510
>>52860535
>>52860553
>>52860581
>>52860613
Pic related, for clarity

>>52860355
They'll be company videos not his own personal ones

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>>52860510
Forget moving off of it, just deploy a baneblade on it and shoot everything!

>>52860473
>Abbadon unecessarily wastes millions of men in Cadia
>btfo
>pylons fuck his offensive
>personally beaten by an old man and a girl
>runs away crying
>cawl deletes system 32
>pylons proceed to shit themselves
>cadia explodes making the whole thing a big waste of resources
>"victory"
;]

>>52858510
The sky is falling, and I'm just worrying about how to deal with overwatch on my wych kill team for SW:A

>>52860610
You sweet beautiful fool.

>>52860170
Can't say I blame him. If you paint just to get your army done you don't need to do every little thing he does in his videos, and he probably gets sick of painting all day at work just to come home and do the same thing.

>>52858658
Reminds me of my first few games, my friend and i were both newbs so like 2/3rds of our armies were missized bases. Good tiems.

>>52860639
I like to think this is the Imperium's idea of hull-down protection for a tank. They build a raised landing pad and drop the tank on with a lifter.

>>52860649
Eye expands just like warp gate in End Times.

>>52860649
>>pylons proceed to shit themselves

You're aware that didn't happen, right?
Cadia wasn't destroyed by the pylons, it was destroyed when it got rammed by chunks of Blackstone Fortress.

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Are people gonna hate me if i play custodes in HoR Kill Team

>>52860701
Yes

>>52860693
>it was destroyed when it got rammed by chunks of Blackstone Fortress

Pffft... Details that get in the way of some good thread material.

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>>52860706
what if i field mostly girls with like 2 or 3 bananas thrown in there

>>52858715

I'm jealous of how your shoukder decals look.
I've got the raised ones, but made them look like trash.

>>52860621
Cheers geez

>>52860639
Follow up question, how do you drive a baneblade to nto the pad, via the hatch?

>>52860778
It likely gets airdropped onto the pad via a space transport.

>>52860778
You would have to deploy the Baneblade up there at the start of a match, and I think it'd be stuck all game.

>>52859433
I havent played much 7th but from the few games I have played my psychic trickery options are actually more limited due to the enemy always getting a chance to dispel and the random nature of spell selection.

That said they could stand to reduce the complexity of the psychic phase. 7th introduced weaker countermagic which i appreciate over the 3+ fuck you wolf talismans/psychic hoods, but also kept the additional complications from 6th. 5th had simple magic, you bought spells like wargear and rolled a leadership test to cast. Only bad aspect was that countermagic was either brutal (ie 3+ to shut down all magic) or nonexistent. I wonder what they'll change this edition. Having a dedicated psychic phase at least cleared up the nonsense that was having every spell tell you when and how you could cast it or stuff like activating forceweapons on enemy turns.

>>52860693
So he wasted all of his Blackstone Fortresses to do what Planet Killer could've done from the start?

Failbaddon lives on.

Has this happened to anyone while painting?

>be painting tiny tiny checkers on ork bike
>finally fucking done
>turn it over to do the other side
>turn it back again
>big black paint blob dried on the checkers, probably from finger or napkin
>want to die

>>52860802

Honestly, AoS has a great magic system.

>spell has cast value
>roll 2d6 to match/beat value
>counter by beating opponent's roll

>>52860854
>Want to die
Yes

>>52860825
>So he wasted all of his Blackstone Fortresses

No.
The Blackstone already got destroyed, so really he was just recycling it.

>>52860790
>and I think it'd be stuck all game.
could houserule something.
If just substracting the vertical distance from the move isn't big enough you could use the ramming rules or something to houserule a fall.

>>52860902
>The Blackstone already got destroyed
Yeah they need to work out that design flaw where it breaks if you put your finger in the barrel.

>>52860778
You deploy it, I'm not sure how superheavy tanks interact with vertical terrain so it's likely just there the whole game.

>>52860825
>Wasted all of his blackstone fortresses
There is one left, held by Huron Blackheart.

>>52860937
Doesn't really need it. If somebody puts a Baneblade up there for the 4++ invuln, they can live with it being stuck. It's clearly a heavily defensive strategy, but there's upsides and downsides.

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>>52859685
Against any conventional wisdom we decided to a 3 way battle with Mon'keigh Business, Death Guard, and Tyranids starting Broodlord shenanigans.

>>52858457
hold up, what happened? Where did that huge, bigger than eye of terror thing come from and why is the galaxy split by a warp rift? Also are the black splodges warp things different to the purple one? WHAT HAPPENED? The Imperium looks hella bamboozled tho.

>>52860778
You dont drive the Baneblade up onto the platform, dont be silly. What you do is you drive the Baneblade up a hill and park it, then you chip the hill away slowly and replace it bit by bit with the platform.
You could also use a ramp, but such wanton usage of simple machines is tech-heresy.

>>52860902
Nope, he blew them up and crashed them to save his hide in his usual bouts of incompetence. Chaos Marines still incompetent.

>>52860955
Still a waste.

>>52858887
>>52858962

Retard from the aosg who started a massive argument about paint schemes. Got told he was an idiot by everyone including some guys claiming to be GW employees.

Got massively booty blasted and threatened to get the guys fired because they hurt his feelings on a moldovan mustache grooming image board.

Shit posted about 4 generals into oblivion.

>>52861010
>what is the galactic center
Derp.

>>52861002
>Against any conventional wisdom we decided to a 3 way battle
Nah, you've just herded the enemy into one easy to manage firing range. Have at them.

>>52861039
>Nope, he blew them up and crashed them

No. The Phalanx blew up a Blackstone.
It was a causality of war, that he then turned to his advantage.

>usual bouts of incompetence. Chaos Marines still incompetent.

They were pretty competent all the way through, the Imperium held on through asspulls the whole way.

>>52859653
You'll probably get shit as a WAAC-fag for harlies.

It's long bugged me about the website, though. And you change the currency and it changes to the home page, instead of what you were looking at.

>>52861010
The dark, non-purple black is black holes. The galactic center is full of black holes and also chaos?

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Been meaning to try a 2v2 battle, How do you guys go about it, each team takes a turn together, or each player takes a turn separately?

>>52858880
World Eaters rules?

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>>52860725
>>52860725
pls respond

>>52860725
depends which army you're playing against then. if it's psyker heavy, no, if it's not, yes.

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Why don't Orks just paint rainbows on everything to get the effects of all the colours?

>>52861119
classic dumb fuck never reading his book then

World eater's blood mad rule doesn't affect walkers

>>52859727
It's too early to tell, imo.
I'm uncharacteristically optimistic, but we just don't know enough.

>>52861082
>No. The Phalanx blew up a Blackstone.
It was a causality of war, that he then turned to his advantage.
Nope, all of them were lost when he blew them up and crashed them. Should've used Planet Killer from the start.
>They were pretty competent all the way through, the Imperium held on through asspulls the whole way.
Explain.

>>52861138
Because everybody knows rainbows are for poofs.

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>>52861073
FORT FUCKOFF AQUIRED. MISSION IS KING IF THE HILL.

>>52861140
What are yoy playing at? It literally says non-vehicles and walkers get a 2d6.

>>52861154
>implying orks aren't poofs

>>52861186

You are definitely one.

>>52861195
>t. insecure ork

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>>52861160
mmmmmm, good.
Proceed with the mission Lt.
Command expects regular sit-reps of your progress. For the Emperor!
Death to the denegerate traitors!
Purge the alien filth that defiles this world!

>>52861100
My group goes for teams taking turns together, basically a larger point game with each person controlling half of an army.

New player here.

I started tyranids because I really love their design and lore, even though I knew they were shit compared to Tau or Eldar.

Does 8th ed and the rules overhaul mean tyranids could be viable or are they inherently flawed?

>>52861231
Tits or gtfo

>>52861231
New edition is being built from the ground up and everyone is getting a rules revamp, anything is possible and we dont know shit.

Buy the models you like, they stay forever, rules change.

>>52861231
Won't know until it comes out.

>>52860856
A roll off to cast your spells? That's terrible. You'd get half the spells you cast off at all. May as well just go full Tau since spellcasting would be completely unreliable unless every spell was brokenly OP.

That also doesn't allow for counterplay or interaction. Under the current system the enemy can allocate their dice to prioritize critical spells (like in WHFB) and in the previous one countermagic was entirely about the positioning of your countermagic unit. Roll off is worse in every way.

>>52861174
walkers can reroll charges, they don't get the bonus move.

>>52861258
Except it literallt says they do, you fucking retard.

>>52861220
Does that usually end up well, or does a single player get singled out by a team and gets their army annihilated in the first turn.

Do you guys do it on a bigger table or a standard 6x4

Of course we could always be gentlemen about it and not be dicks to each other, but what has your experience been so far?

>>52861231
They were good once so they can be good again

>>52861272
Oh, you're walkers don't count as vehicles guy.

>>52861256
Okay so the guy explained it like shit

So you roll to cast a spell, requiring you to get over a minimum value.

IF your opponent has a Wizard AND he's within the set range for unbinding -usually 18", AND he beats your score AND that wizard hasn't attempted to unbind a spell this turn with that wizard, then the spell gets nullified.

>>52861153
>Nope, all of them were lost when he blew them up and crashed them.

Abaddon didn't blow it up.

>Explain.

The original plan Abaddon had for Cadia in FoC was just to drive up and shoot it with his Blackstone. But he knew the Imperium had a shield on Cadia that could stop the blast so he sent Chaos Marines to disable the shield which they did.
Then he brought his Blackstone up and shot at Cadia but the shield was magically repaired by sudden Necron intervention.
So then they had to do another ground assault to disable the shield again. They once again succeeded in disabling the shield.
But then magically the Phalanx showed up at just the right time to destroy the blackstone before it could fire on Cadia.
The CHaos fleet manages to push the Phalanax away, but not before it sends down its reinforcements.
This is the point Abaddon decided to go down to Cadia himself but has his engineers begin weaponising the Blackstone debris.
Eventually he has the Blackstone remains slam into Cadia.
He is prepared to let the Imperial fleet go until his sorcerer tells him that he shouldn't otherwise Roboute Guilliman will give him trouble.
So he successfully manages to break up the Imperial convoy and runs his target down.
But magically the Ynnari show up and rescue the Imperials.

The Chaos Marines are actually pretty good at their jobs in FoC, they just get fucked by sudden TWEESTS.

>>52861298
Seems decent.

Like most of the AoS rules it reminds me of a super-simplified WHFB.

>>52861284
Your point? Non-vehicle units get a 2d6. Therefore Walkers get their 2d6 and you stay eternally btfo like the iliterate lowlife you are.

Now fuck off.

>>52861231
Yes, that's what it means. Tyranids big problem was having their models becoming overpriced while also losing a lot of options and upgrades over the years.

A complete overhaul means the possibility of getting more fair costing or more options is more likely.

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Are there any "good guys"?

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>>52861355
yo

>>52861326
Just means you're not worth engaging.

>>52861310
What's your source? I could swear he had more than one Blackstone Fortress. Also the amount of plot armor the Imperium has been getting lately is fucking insane.

>>52861280
Well, we usually do this with 1000 points per player, so it still fits on the standard table.

Usually it does end up fairly well, since not many people are bringing their biggest guns since it's just 1000 point lists joined together. That may depend somewhat on your group if people get blasted away.

Even in the cases where it does happen though, the other guy usually just ends up helping and giving more tactical advice to his team-mate, sharing in the work there as well.

Daily reminder to 110010101001010100100 and MAKE NEW ADMECH STUFF PLEEEEEAAAAASSSE

>>52861378
It's not that interesting if chaos just rolls over everything with no resistance.

>>52861381
That seems manageable enough, cheers!

>>52861355
No. At most, Craftworld Eldar could be considered Chaotic Neutral, and Tau Lawful Neutral.

If you consider Alignment more objectively, the Tau wouldn't be Good in any other sci-fi work. In a typical Sci-fi story, they would be those creepy expansionist aliens focused all about having people join their collective. Pretty Lawful Neutral.

>>52861365
In any other setting an aggressively expanding alien empire would be the bad guys. Tau are only "good" if you compare them to other 40k factions.

>>52861368
>gets btfo
>y-you're n-not worth it so pls make it stop!
Top kek how about just admitting you're wrong you petty faggot LOL none of you retards could prove me wrong last time so you run away MY FUCKING SIDES

>>52861378
>What's your source?

Fall of Cadia.

> I could swear he had more than one Blackstone Fortress.

At one point he had two. In Fall of Cadia we see him using one, and it is destroyed by the Phalanx. We find out in Rise of the Primarch that he gave the other one to the Red Corsairs.

>>52861395
Yeah but a single Chaos victory doesn't have to mean instant end of the war. They can have territorial changes or individual campagins being sucesses just like in any war. Because now they've gone from cartoon villains to hollywood villains, which is not a big improvement.

Still waiting for the source of your post.

>>52859848
At my store someone used skitarii heads.

>>52861434
But weren't there like six in total in Gothic War?

>>52861231
seeing as tyranids never really got the love they needed in 7th edition I would say you're probably in a better place now that you would be if 8th edition never came out at all. At least now you have a chance of being good.

>>52861467
Yes, but Abaddon ended the war with two in his possession. One he gave away and the other was destroyed over Cadia.

>>52861411
good enough. some would consider the necrons good, as all they're doing is restoring their former empire. some would consider tyranids good, because all they are is a force of nature, an animal race more than a xeno, one with an inscrutable endgame, if they have one at all. it's subjective, to be honest.

>>52861450
In the case of Cadia it was continually talked about as being the only reason Chaos forces hadn't overrun the imperium at large. Cadia stopped large fleet movement by chaos. No Cadia means a chaos fleet can show up anywhere at any time unnannounced.

>>52861467
There were 3. One of which was rekt by the Necrons(?) so that chaos couldn't go full Episode VII. Now there is one under Huron blackheart's command remaining.

>>52861513
Nature is neutral at best as it is not acting in accordance to or avoidance of moral principles.

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>>52861119
>>52861174
>>52861272
>>52861326
>>52861416

>>52860066

how did you get the blue lines in the cracks?

Looks dope

>>52861481
>>52861481
>Nids deserve love
No, they deserve squat. Necrons did their jobs a thousand times better than them which much more personality, now they're easily the dullest faction followed by SM.

>>52861467
There were six in total.
Abaddon took control of three, but one was destroyed.
The other three remain in Imperial hands, and now Gman is hatching a plan to take control of them.

>>52861537
Don't start it again anon, you're wasting your time.

>>52861537
so non-vehicles get a 2d6 move, and non-vehicles AND walkers can re-roll failed charges. they seem to have made the distinction quite clear.

>>52861521
>In the case of Cadia it was continually talked about as being the only reason Chaos forces hadn't overrun the imperium at large. Cadia stopped large fleet movement by chaos. No Cadia means a chaos fleet can show up anywhere at any time unnannounced.
Which despite the "victory" didn't actually happen, so can we please have a clear victory for once?

>>52861563
There is a very deliberate distinction being made here. How are people arguing otherwise?

>>52860504
Don't think that I haven't read that image set, Anonymous.

>>52861537
Thank you for proving me right, you fucking retard. Walkers are non-vehicle units, and thus they get the bonus.

The fact that "walkers aren't vehicles" meme is still fucking happening, unintentionally no less, shows how retarded you faggots are.

>>52861616
What? Are you serious?

>>52861536
further, the 3x3 charts are based on DnD morality which is absolute. Necrons cannot be good as they wage wars of annihilation against the defenseless and innocent with the aim of attaining galactic dominance.
Building an empire on the corpses of your enemy is inherently evil.

The Tyranids are directed by a hive mind capable of conscious thought. Although the aspect they take on in combat may be that of an unstoppable force of nature they are not good. That would be like making an argument that the Titans in Attack on Titan are good because they are a mysterious animalistic force of nature and act without true purpose. Hell, that makes Zombies in literally every movie ever 'good'.

>>52861627
Your fault for being unable to read.

>>52861549

You understand nids are supposed to be faceless?

>>52861616

If Walkers are non-vehicle units, why the fuck would they write "non-vehicle units AND WALKERS"

The whole point of writing that phrase is because walkers ARE vehicles, but they still get that bonus in yellow underline despite being vehicles

>>52861639
This is bait

>>52861627
don't even engage him anon, when someone breaks out the "thanks for proving me right" you know they've run out of stuff to say.

>>52861641
Nids aren't faceless they have the Hivemind who is just an angry spiteful cunt.

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>>52861625
I was about to post the same thing.
Shall we instead bring the bitching back to terror over 8th? That'll show them.

>>52861641
They're just a bunch of stupid cockroaches. Oldcrons were 'faceless' too but did it much better due to the Star Gods, spooky talking Pariahs and space terminator themes being much more frightening than 'muh hive mind'. Machines just make much better apocalypse material than fucking bugs.

Just ask Mass Effect.

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>>52861616

>>52861627
>>52861658
>>52861625

Sorry anons, I didn't realise it was a thing

>>52861616
Good thing I came prepared then. Stop pretending and go watch cat videos or something

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>>52861729

>>52861645
It's just redundancy. Basic logic tells you they aren't vehicles and so does the base rulebook.

Kill yourself.

>>52861651
>shit I'm getting destroyed here...m-maybe if i scream b-bait i won't have to prove him wrong anymore!
Get absolutely fucked you stupid piece of shit. Better lrn2read before sperging out again.

I'm new to Warhammer and only have a superficial understanding of each race, but aren't orks theoretically the most powerful race due to their collective psychic ability? their own stupidity being the only thing keeping their power level in check?

>>52861757
>>52861746
>>52861715

>>52861758
pretty much. if orks had the intelligence of humans 40k would already be settled, with the Imperium of Ork swiftly crushing all resistance, and the Warboss of Orkkind ruling brutally and kunningly from atop his pile of dakka.

>>52861758
Eh every race can claim to be the most powerful to some degree (apart from Tau).

The collective psychic thing gets a bit overblown in fluff discussion. It's not THAT powerful.

>>52861758
No.
They'd be a much bigger threat if they all got together, but they're not the most powerful.
Orksfags will tell you different but they already lost in the War of the Beast.

>>52861758
It's a bit of a catch 22. If Orks were really smart, they would realize how they have this subtle psychic field fueled off of belief that can make things go their way and have an easy time of crushing anything they wanted.

Conversely, having the knowledge that they can change things if they believe strong enough makes it harder for them to actually believe those things, since then they'd know that Red things aren't actually faster, they just think they are.

>>52861757
>It's just redundancy.

That's not how English works.

"All non-dog animals may eat food A. In addition, all non-dog animals and dogs may eat food B."

Just because a dog eats food B doesn't make it a non-dog.

>>52861715
They just put that for semantic's sake. They have their own rules and their own mechanics, I want to see you try to deny that faggot. I fucking want to. It calls them that so retarded children like you can have something to associate them with.

Eat shit.

>>52861729
>m-maybe if i call him a troll i won't have to refute his argument
Thank you for admitting defeat.

>>52861625
Oh I know what I'm doing. I'm simply bored, which is probably the same reason he goes on about his non-vehicle walkers

>>52861758
Orks aren't stupid. They're kunnin'. They just have different priorities from humanity and other sentient races that focus on state-building and such.

They don't understand their collective psychic potential power in much the same way that humanity doesn't understand that they're a nascent psychic race that could reach a new plane of power if it fostered psykers instead of condemned and sacrificed them.

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>>52861616

>>52861819
So we are neither going with rules as written, or rules as intended, but Rules as what you think they really meant in spite of what they actually wrote

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>>52861211
Top of three. Fumbles the ogryn gave his life to shield his fellow men from Bolter fire.

>>52861819
their rules are that they are vehicles, see >>52861746

>>52861861

Are those Plague Marines?

>>52861819
>refute his argument
>his argument
>argument
top lel, saying something enough times with nothing to back it up isn't an argument.

>>52861893
Unpainted but yes. Regular Marines using Death Guard tactics. 5T with fnp is rough for lasguns.

>>52861818
>d-don't speak english like that it makes me look retarded!
>walkers are dogs
Fuck off cunt. Since you like english so much here is the dictionary definition of vehicle:

vehicle
[vee-i-kuhl or, sometimes, vee-hi-]
noun
any means in or by which someone travels or something is carried or conveyed; a means of conveyance or transport:
a motor vehicle; space vehicles.

Clearly distinct from a Maulerfiend, which is literally a Daemon in a mechanical body. Saying Daemon Engines are vehicles is like saying human bodies are cars.

>>52861842
Not an argument faggot.

>>52861851
>what you think
No, what they clearly meant. It's not their fault you lack basic reading comprehension. Get the fuck out of here.