/btg/ Battletech General!

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>>52825334
In the 30th century, life is cheap. Battlemechs aren't.

>>52825308
I actually kinda miss the days when the Wolves rolled over any and all opposition. Like they were a Clan that blended Clantech and traditions well with common sense tactics.

Then Ulric suicided their clan, left the fiat along with magic mobile factories and ironwombs to Phelan, and the rest of the Wolves under Vlad struggled to walk and fart at the same time.

It's weird, I loved the Wolves under Ulric in the invasion and with Natasha K helping run things, but the W-i-E under Phelan were the most boring, usesless seeming faction ever. They even had me gravitating over to Vlad's Real Wolves.

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>>52825486
thank Blake we leave that shit behind, and glorious 32nd century battlemechs are also cheap

>>52825647
Except for the rampant use of XXL engines, that is.
Though I guess fixed prices combined with the massively devalued C-bill make even those cheap

>>52825603

Mobile factories came from the Bears, in the only example we have of a force that lost a Trial being allowed to take bondsmen. 'Cos we can't have the Bears actually lose anything of value, after all. They had to """""lose""""" the battle and the factory to gain the key to power over the FRR.

Otherwise yeah, everything interesting about the Wolves dies at the same time Ulric does. Stackpole was never the patron author for them people think he was, but he was still the only one who really wrote about them.

Is there a blank map of the IS and periphery anywhere? Like just planets, no borders? Alternately, one with just black lines for borders and no shading would also work

>>52825603
>>52825783
I kinda hated Phelan Kelly. Like I know the wolves were Mary sue-ish before he got there, with the whole "secret good guys with the best tech" thing but Phelan just felt like he existed to epitomize the sue-ness with Vlad only existing to create drama in his story arc.

Like I felt they could have just let the other clans be the bad guys.

>>52826010
>Kell

Fucking Auto correct.

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bampu

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Wolf cucked the sphere. Alaric did! He took a Wolf army to Terra. There was NO ONE left to cuck, da wimmiz wuz his.

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>>52825308

>photo in corner of cockpit

>>52827561
Pathos!

>52827545
And here I was thinking we'd seen the last of you
No such luck, I see

I wonder if there was a way for us to set up one of those RISK games with the IS map and see what crazy results we end up with. Would certainly be fun for AU Building

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Anyone know if it's been announced when/if this is getting printed again?

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>>52827623
Where all the Terran women at? The Republic player learned I don't let anyone have planets I don't want them to. Blood Spirit tactics are tops.

>>52827638
Last I heard they were angling for a reprint, and Catalyst usually releases stuff around Origins and Gencon.

>>52827662
Thanks anon

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>>52827638
You have less luck of having a proper release than theArmored Core board game

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>>52827638
>>52827662
>Catalyst usually releases stuff around Origins and Gencon
This. Very this. Worth noting though that Origins is usually a tiny trickle compared to what they put out at Gencon.

Though I might be talking out of my ass, I think the next "Boxed set" is going to be for alpha strike. I don't know if that means two boxes simultaneously or if it's just the one.

>>52827620
Just shut the fuck up anon. You aren't funny. You aren't clever. You aren't original. You're trying to force a meme, and succeeding only in being a worthless cunt. If you had the courage of your convictions, you'd put on and keep on a trip rather than hiding behind anon like a worthless cunt.

Find new material, because the only reason anybody cares about what you post is that you're wasting perfectly good thread space being a worthless cunt.

This super hot HGN-732 son of a bitch is fucking crushing lights and basically youre fucked. How? Click here to find out!

>>52828110
Where?

>>52827623
>I wonder if there was a way for us to set up one of those RISK games with the IS map and see what crazy results we end up with.

The Draconis Combine? You know what the Draconis Combine is? It's a sitting duck, a road apple, Newman. The Darconis Combine is weak... it's feeble... I think it's time to put the hurt on the Draconis Combine...

>>52827623

Apparently the new Inner Sphere in Flames rules are a bit better than the old ones, but the old ones had the Taurian Concordat duking it out with the Lyrans for control of human space as a fairly probable end-state thanks to the fuckery involved with factories.

Which I guess is marginally better than the AFFS and Lyrans duking it out for control that you get from using troop numbers, skills, and experience from the FMs and such.

>>52828663
While the factory stuff is nonsense, fluff-wise the Concordat has always been an interesting place with its pros and cons. At the risk of stirring trouble up, I should say I always found the Concordat, flawed as it is, a more interesting faction and setting than the Combine or Suns.

>>52828728

Yeah, I don't mind the Concordat as written. A lot of fans replace the Concordat as written with the Concordat they would have written though, in ways fans of other factions don't. That tends to not end so well.

>>52828769
>a lot of
See, I've only ever observed Medron and that guy MA do this on the OF. No more often than any other factional AU.

>>52828926
Really it's that those two, especially the first, do it so damn often that it feels like there's more then of them. Other factions don't have that sort of relentless faggot going (though MadCap would have probably gotten as bad if his shit didn't get canon; we'd likely be laughing about 'Xin Sheng Industries' instead)

>>52828769
Just about everyone does that with their chosen faction in home games.

When they're a writer it becomes canon. *cough* xin sheng *cough*

>>52828985
Plus Master Arminas did that Goliath Scorpion storyline that kinda wrecked the Scorps for me.

>the scorp khan or whatever kills 10-15 smoke jaguar keshik Warriors in a fight inspired by Steven Segal
My sides were crit'd

>>52828997
I did that some with the FWL in my campaign setting but that's partly because they get ignored so consistently.

>>52828926

Having been in the BT community for a while, I've seen rather more of them. A fair number also convince themselves that the stuff Medron says is right, or use his website as a source.

>>52829065
YMMV. I've been playing the game, probably like you, since the Clan Invasion happened and honestly I've seen more FedCom/FedSuns ones.

>>52829022
I'm still not sure if he or drakensis is the king of ridiculous AUs

>>52828769
I kinda get that, because they kinda did get reverse sheng'd pretty hardcore, and I know a lot of people like pre Coleman CC over it's later incarnation, so I'm not surprised taurian fans are the same way with the TC

>>52829106
A big part is the pre-Coleman/Shraplen Concordat was a great setting for a variety of campaigns. The Jihad era and beyond pretty much killed the periphery in BT.

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>>52827623
The old template, would it be best to do it by planet or by territory?

>>52829079
that's a tough one, because MA is a total fucking loon, but on the other hand drak DID do a Avatar SI/Azula AU fic, so I think he wins, but narrowly

The only part of the DA that I've ever really liked were the wacky little splinter factions, and I've been thinking that the whole idea might actually fit into the Jihad and early post-jihad era better

>>52825885

>>52829211 Does this work?

>>52829375
it's close, very close, only problem is putting all the independent worlds on grey background instead of white

>>52829208
The pre-FM Periphery in general was much more fun and interesting
It was really disappointing how many interesting plot threads got dropped between Periphery '58 and FM:P
>st.Ives/TC/MoC alliance
>WoB influence growing in the magistracy
>OA finally getting it's shit together WITHOUT clan magic
>huge waves of emigration from the IS founding large numbers of new colonies
>space motherfucking Texas Rangers
>Marian Hegemony facing actual fights instead of walkovers
>>52829453
That could probably be fixed in photoshop or even paint

I really like the atlas, but during and after the jihad there really aren't much in the way of decent non-lyran variants to be had
Anyone have anything good?

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>>52829453
How about this one?

>>52829964
Oh fuck, that's excellent. Thanks a lot buddy
This is all I need, but do they've got a 67 blank? The difference is pretty small but helpful

anyone know if the mechwarrior clix are in scale with the current minis? I have an oppiurtunity to pick up a few lances worth for pretty cheap. Obviously, I'd rebase them, but what do you guys think?

>>52830288
Most of the mechs are N-Scale (well, they all are, but some mechs are weedy little bastards), but the infantry and vehicles fit okay.

>>52830031
Check the website shown on the image, it should have all the maps. They're colored, but you can just grayscale them.

>>52829310
I guess it's relevant to you and also the main conversation here, but I've always thought the full-retard jihad taurians would have made a superb DA-style splinter faction, just not running the show as a whole
Like imagine them as a bunch of militia retards nurtured in the 50s and 60s by the capellans in the TC, planning to support a pro-cap coup that never came, but in the mid-60s the blakists show up with the Vendetta, dubious mercs for bulk and some Phoenix machines and get them on-side, setting them loose in 74 with like four regiments and far too many nukes to rampage across the capellan march
Being either the TC or FS and trying to deal with them while also keeping whatever worlds they've "liberated" for your own would be a really fun campaign, I think

>>52830333
How many scales are there for battletech, I'm a bit of a noobie

>>52830310
Oops wrong post

>>52830288
Most of them aren't. The MiningMech and Phoenix Hawk are both in scale; so are some of the vehicles (artillery, trailers, some of the light tanks, the Enyo).

>>52830740
>How many scales are there for battletech, I'm a bit of a noobie
The main scale is theoretically 1:285, aka "6mm" (based on the hieght of an average human model), or "NZ"/"Z" railroad scale depending on the country you're from. In reality the models vary from ~1:300 to 1:250 and the it's kinda always been a little wonky. On the bright side, most things in that scale range work well. Many manufacturers make modern troops, terrain, and tanks in 6mm because it's super cheap.

The Mechwarrior Clix game is officially 1:144, or 10mm/"N" scale. Unfortunately it's WAY wonkier and there's a bunch of random shit that's either stupidly huge or scaled properly for BT. The "Museum-scale" 'Mechs on the IWM website are also 1:144.

Then there was an abortive line of "micro-scale" minis that are about a third of the size of the standard ones, and some stands of fighters and dropships made in that scale as well for fighting in games with Warships. Both went over like a lead balloon.

WarShips are their own scale-ish, I forget which but I think it's something like 1:1000 or 1:1200, which are pretty standard for naval games.

There was a limited run of 28mm models which got their license pulled ages ago. There are still a few models avialable in the IWM archives, but they're all infantry and/or powered armor for the RPG.

Finally, there's "map-scale" which is 1:1000, and really used only for DropShips that are going to be used on the map instead of the standard dropship counters. Although there is one mad whoreson making his own kitbashed mapscale models..

Is it a mess? Yeah. But realistically 1:285/6mm is all you actually have to worry about.

>>52831238
>There are still a few models avialable in the IWM archives, but they're all infantry and/or powered armor for the RPG.

They weren't for the RPG, they were for BattleTroops, the long-dead squad level infantry combat game.

How valuable are early Ral Partha minis compared to modern stock?

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>>52831238
You left out the best scale of all.

>>52833449
I, um, had a mess of, um, those... yeah. For science reasons. ... Yeah. I used to take the Hunchback IIc's autocannons that fired off those big rubber shots and play with one of my cats with it. I swear this is true. When I would fire off a shot only from the IIC, my male cat would grab the shot, play with it for a few seconds, and bring it back to me like a dog. Before he died of old age and such I would play Kitty Battletech with him for so many days. Good kitty times. And so, um, yeah... science!

>>52833855
The autocannon on the Summoner had fucking range.

>>52833938
That it did. I don't know how old you are, but I grew up with the original transformers where some bootlegs or originals made it across the pond where the original springs for the missile launchers would fire off a small projectile that little kids and kitties could choke on. The IIC had large enough projectiles as not to be dangerous.

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>>52832104
>How valuable are early Ral Partha minis compared to modern stock?

Well, this lad was NIB after all these decades. I sold 'im for $75.00.

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>>52834765

... and this wasn't even RP's first go at it!

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>>52830740
>>52831238
>How many scales are there for battletech, I'm a bit of a noobie

Maybe it's cheating, but I've seen pics on here of people playing Battletech using the 1:100 scale Bandai models, too.

I have no hope of ever finding that searchlight...

Is that larger Warhammer the same size as those models made under the Robotech license about 15-20 years ago? They might have sold them under the Exosquad license too.

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>>52834829
Official scale is Microarmor-scale, so somewhere floating around 1:285 scale or z:scale.

The only reason "Scale" started to become a point of debate was becuase there were people trying to use clix as a cheaper substitute for the Ironwind Metals pewters.

There were also a lot of people who've gaffed from buying a set labeled as "Battleforce", because IWM/CGL were testing out an even smaller scale for their huge-numbers wargame that would eventually become Alpha Strike. There were many who ended up buying this pewter set somehow not stopping and considering "Why does this pack of 12 pewter mechs cost as much as the pack of 4 pewter mechs"...

But yeah, If it's standard IWM/Fasa/Catalyst minis you're dealing with, you're using the norm, not the exception.

Hey /btg/, I need help adding a custom to Megamek.

Since you can't modifiy Dropships in MML or otherwise, direct editing of the unit file is the only way to go, however, I have no idea how the fuck to get the resulting custom unit back into MHQ to allow for it's use.

Any help to get this done would be appreciated, because I really need these BA bays and there's nothing 3053 that really has any.

>>52836303
Does scale matter in batttech? As long as it's base takes up the hex, line of sight doesn't matter for height, correct?

>>52836659
If you modify the file manually, place it in the folder with the rest of the units, delete the units.cache file in the main MM folder, and then start the program, MM should add it when it goes through its initial scan.

>>52836762

So just drop it in mechfiles and delete the unit cache file?

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>>52835528
>Is that larger Warhammer the same size as those models made under the Robotech license about 15-20 years ago? They might have sold them under the Exosquad license too.

No, it's one of the 1:100 Bandai Macross kits. Those old Robotech Defenders kits are considerably larger. Pic related may not be the *best* example - the purple Goliath in the middle is a die-cast-and-plastic Dougram toy that it somewhat smaller than the Macross model in >>52834829. The little guy in front *is* Ral Partha, though.

>>52836782 here

>>52836762

Tried it by dropping it in the mechfiles folder and the customs folder specific to the campaign, neither worked after deleting the unit cache and loading the campaign.

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>>52836303
>The only reason "Scale" started to become a point of debate was becuase there were people trying to use clix as a cheaper substitute for the Ironwind Metals pewters.

I could only see this being a problem when it starts hitting someone in the pocketbook (i.e., sellers of IWM models). You could argue that on a macro-level, this'd hurt us all, but that's getting into slippery slope territory, I think.

>>52836704
>Does scale matter in batttech? As long as it's base takes up the hex, line of sight doesn't matter for height, correct?

If you're playing with hex maps, not, I don't see how it could matter. After all, even the original Battledroids models (the plastic ones from Dougram like this Wolverine, not the old metal miniatures) barely fit in a hex themselves.

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>>52836901
If I don't want a particular miniature, I just buy cheap Gashapons or Russian miniatures and use them as either proxy models or custom mechs.

It works pretty well.

>>52834787
Is that rust?

battle bump

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>>52838401
Lead rot, yeah. It's most commonly caused by exposure to acetic acid. I'd hit that sucker with some diluted baking soda and a toothbrush, then prime it. About the only way to stop it. Also, that red lead oxide is toxic as hell.

>>52837178
To be honest, about a third of my Unseen are recasts of Takara and CMS gashapon (most of the rest are Robotech Tactics/Arii stuff). It's impressive the amount of detail they can stuff into a shitter rubber mini. Once you get that into a decent resin, they look really damned good, and they're fun to play with.

>>52839464
Wait, how would a mini come in contact with acetic acid?

>>52838401
>Is that rust?

No, it's just a really awful 25-year-old paint job. Back then, I used enamel paints, and I hadn't the skills or materials to do the paint job right.

Official Miniatures that are awful.

>Madcat/Timberwolf
They've never had a good timberwolf model. How hard is it to make a meaty version of this. Hell look at the marauder and catapult miniatures. How hard is it to make that? I've used MK.IIs as stand ins every time I've fielded a madcat since it came out. For such a core part of the universe, it seems stupid they don't have a better model.

>vulture/Mad dog
Again, fucking anorexic. Torso is awful. Again they've showed they can do it better with the Vulture MkIII.

>Any Reseen Warhammer Design
The Tomahawk Destroid design is too iconic to replace. They need to do what they did with the new Shadowhawk and Griffin, bulk it up, and make it actually look like a threat, and stop putting muliple guns in the arms, it makes them look non-functional. This one is probably a legal nightmare though, since it was the Warhammer from the Mechwarrior trailer that re-ignited the harmony gold bullshit.

Anyone else have any sculpts they hate?

>>52832104
Depends on what they are.

Out of pack unseen usually goes from around $12-30

If they're bad models or have better sculpts since, some are lucky to go for $1.

You can get lucky as well, I've picked up an old Griffin, Old battlemaster, Wasp, Stinger for as little as $7, usually from people listing them incorrectly or in the wrong ebay section.

In the UK and Europe there's a slightly lower price point but then increased scarcity (I have no idea why, but its probably because of its much lower popularity than in US).

>>52839950
It's vinegar.
Acetic acid is vinegar.

>>52840911
That I knew, but I don't understand what someone is doing bathing a mini in vinegar.

>>52840963
Well... Maybe small amount of its fumes over a long time is enough to cause such damage?
Years of exposure or what not.

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>>52839950
>Wait, how would a mini come in contact with acetic acid?
It's vinegar. Most wood outgasses a small quantity of it as it rots, with oak and pressboard being especially bad. So if you leave it on a bookshelf or in a drawer without decent ventilation, after a decade or so shit'll start to rot. It's not a problem as long as the model is sealed, but if something is sitting in the "unpainted" pile for a couple decades it can get really bad. Lower-quality alloys (like the BD pewter and Dave "I'm Randall's Uncle" the Toymaker use) rot much more agressively than the later RP leaded pewters. The newest stuff (Ralladium etc.) is much more corrosion-resistant, although the tin can react if you leave it in an electrolye - say, a pool of paint water - in contact with other metals.

Also, if you're a dingus like me, you can forget that RTV silicone caulk uses acetic acid to cure and try to cast a new leg for your lead MAD II...

Also, once one mini is oxidized, it can cause a small electrolytic reaction and speed up the rusting if it's in contact with other shit in the case and the humidity gets high enough. Salt air is really bad for that. That's how a car battery works - controlled rotting of lead plates. on the bright side, a good cleaning with a base like Windex (ammonia and alcohol) or baking soda and a simple coat of paint will stop the shit.

>>52839464
Where do you usually get your gashapons from? Any other battletech sized mechs you know of?

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Finally finished the doodle, so here's the 80 ton Striker battlemech.

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>>52836704
>As long as it's base takes up the hex, line of sight doesn't matter for height, correct?
So long as it fits in the hexes.

Clix don't fit in the Battletech hex maps. Part of the contention with the IWM scale creep is because minis are getting bigger while the hex maps are the same. They're starting to look like one of those circus bears balancing on a ball.

Now, if you're willing to buy a bunch of the heroscape tiles, you get a lot more wiggle room. The other possibility is that you end up using miniatures rules and do away with hexes altogether. Not my tastes, but its your prerogative. Still, you're going to want to keep in mind that all parties need to be using the same scale minis, and most people aren't using N-scale clix / 3D printed stuff.

>>52842604
fuck dude thats awesome

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>>52842334
>Where do you usually get your gashapons from? Any other battletech sized mechs you know of?
Ebay, Japanese import services, scouting tables at conventions, occasionally amazon (if you have an escrow shipper, the Japanese amazon site is excellent).

BT size:
CMS Dougram series 2 and 3. (Scorpion, Goliath, Shad, Stealth Griffin, Griffin S, Thunderbolt, a decent attack chopper, various small vees). Series 1 is N-scale, and the Wolverine in Series 3 is slightly bigger than an Assault (as you can see in) >>52839464

There was a short series of bottle-cap Macross gashapon in the right scale to get Stingers/Wasps/Phoenix Hawks, although the FA Valkyrie (AKA the Crusader) is a rare chase figure and runs ~$30-40. Also, no Destroids in that one. The rest of the figs run ~$5 but aren't the greatest quality. Still, cheap and good for covering the smaller Bugs.

There are a good dozen different series of Macross gashapon proper, so be really careful about your scaling when you buy. Most are ~1/200 (large but sorta usable), some are 1/144, and only a few are 1/285 (proper BT scale). Also, the Glaug is supposed to be much larger in Macross than the Marauder is in BT, so it's even harder to find figures; your best bet for that is to nut up and buy one of hte shitty boxed set plastics, then clean her up. Or try to find a vanishingly rare couple of non-scaled minis from the late 1980s, which are more expensive than just getting a pewter MAD.

For everything Destroid, the Robotech Tactics models really are your best bet -warts and all. The Valkyrie box gets you a couple Pixie LAMs or Pixies, the Destroid boxes net you either a pair each of Archers and Warhammers or of Riflemen and Longbows. It's like five bucks a mode lif you find them on sale online.

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>>52843033
Marauders for comparison: Left is the MAD II from Clickytech, center is a cleaned-up plastic MAD, right is the RRPGT Glaug.

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>>52842604
There is a lot of ugly in BT. I always hated the Striker for being one of them. I have never played that in combat. You sir, continually restore my faith in art work.
Class act, bro. Love it.

>>52842604
>>52842604
that's pretty damn good
At this rate the entirety of 3058 will be unfucked by the fall

Dropper anon here.

I have run into an additonal problem.

I have managed to get my custom dropship fit to show in the refit options and purchase list for Megamek.

However, it does not have the transport bays listed.

Any ideas why this could be? I added 3 new types of bay to an existing dropship, and I'm wondering if that's it.

What are the best Kurita Mech designs in the 3050s and 3060s?

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Any plans for a game tonight

>>52827545

This reminds me to a AU campaign I ran

>clan Jade Falcon pushes on and actually manages to reach Terra during the FedCom civil war beceause the wobbies and coms are having a scrap in Sol and they managed to clean up
>exuberantly march into Terra
>they expect a glorious new future, all the IS and the clans bowing to the ilClan
>no one actually gives a shit
>other clans refuse to accept it and just attack their IS holdings
>wobbies and coms manage a truce and evict them from terra righ away
>right after they got evicted from terra, clan wolf launches a trial of possession for the position of ilClan
>the falcons are assmad and take the bait
>get pummeled just as the Suns are winning the civil war and drip some intel to the Wolf Watch, they are more than happy to see clans beating eachother silly
>the clans are so divided about the while ilClan shit and ruleslawyering they all decide to take sides in it.
>Vlad accepts a Suns offer in return of ransoming off Katherine to him and goads the Falcons into a trap where the Suns and Wolves effectively destroy the clan together
>clans war eachother some more who was the biggest dezgra
>they finally decide the title of ilClan works like some WWE belt and goes to the one who defeated the last holder
>news coming in about the lyrans destroying the last vestiges of the falcons
>they of course dont give the slightest shit about it
>the entire thing was completely fucking pointless

I like merry clusterfucks..

>>52844436

I'm down, if we get more

>>52844431

Ones that are exported to the FedCom, like the Raptor, Firestarter Omni, Black Hawk-KU, Avatar, Gunslinger, and Sunder.

>>52844752
What about any of the ones with Japanese names?

>>52842604
As the Anon who requested it/put the ideas in your head, I give it a 9.5/10. Fucking. Boss. Sir. I want a Lance of them in mini form ASAP.

Making an introtech Davion force.

For light: Valkyrie or Javelin?

For medium: Enforcer or Centurion?

Not sure about a Davion heavy.

For assault: BattleMaster or Victor?

>>52842604
A bit greebly for my tastes, but there's no denying that it's a vast improvement on the original, and generally quite good looking. Nice work.

>>52846242
I prefer the Javelin myself. Centurion is more reliable than the Enforcer since the latter runs out of ammo easily, but the former is more explody as a result. Personal preference here, so pick which one you like. As a heavy in Introtech you're mostly looking at Whammy Ds, JagerMechs, and Riflemen, as I recall. Heavies are one place the FedSuns are pretty weak in that era. They have a Marauder variant too, if I recall right. They of course have Archers and whatnot as well but if you're looking for an "iconic" force then the JagerMechs is basically it, as far as the boxed set goes. You can't go wrong with either of those assaults. I'd personally pick the Beemer but that's just me. It can be hard to use the Victor as a generalist, but goddamn if the AC/20 isn't amazing in introtech.

>>52846242
>For light: Valkyrie or Javelin?
Javelin. Missiles for days.

>For medium: Enforcer or Centurion?
I personally like the Centurion more, but they're both good. Ammo on the Enforcer is a little light.

>Not sure about a Davion heavy.
Warhammer.

>For assault: BattleMaster or Victor?
This is a toss-up. If you want a generalist to anchor a force, you want the Beemer. If you want a close-range death bubble, you want the Victor. Personally, the looks and the AC/20 win me over for the Victor usually.

>>52846242
>Not sure about a Davion heavy.
Rifleman.

If you can ride the heat curve in it, you can ride it in pretty much anything.

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>>52844431
Usually not the off-the-shelf configs, but there are a few worth noting.

Thug-12K
Awesome 10KM
Hatamoto-Chi 28T... though painfully expensive in BV...
Likewise, the Gunslinger, the Cerberus.
Mauler-3R
Shugenja-7D
Venom 9KC
Bishamon 3K
Blackhawk KU Prime
Firestarter OB
Grasshopper 6K
Charger SA5
No-Dachi 2KO
Dragonfire
Lynx 9Q
Wolverine 7K, 8K, 8C (Skip the 9K. So terrible)
Catapult K2K
Warhammer 7K
Daimyo (1, 2, 5K)
Blackjack O Prime (I know, dual UAC5s sounds like shit, but I've had amazing luck with it, and rare is the game where BOTH ac5s jam.)
Raptor (Not raptor II), from TRO 3058.

(That I'm familiar with, anyway)

Early 3050s DC mechs tend to be exceptionally bad due to single heat sinks combined with ER Large Lasers and ER PPCs. New toy syndrome hit them like a truck. Often, the "Upgrades" that the DC got in TRO 3050 aren't as desirable as the stock retro versions.

>>52846242
>Making an introtech Davion force.
Cool stuff

>For light: Valkyrie or Javelin?
Javelin. Valkyries are kind of like Davion's take on the Panther. Not the worse, but better to have a short range harasser. A Fire Javelin is a beast. Keep it in mind.

>For medium: Enforcer or Centurion?
Hmm. I tend to gravitate towards the Enforcer a bit more. The Centurion is nice for sure, but it's more of a ranged fighter and the LRMs spread that damage out. Especially with the aforementioned Javelin, having something to put big deep holes into something is a wise move.

>Not sure about a Davion heavy.
Marauders and Warhammers are often what people gravitate towards, but you might also want to consider some BV conservation by fielding a Jagermech instead. A Jagermech with a high gunnery skill has scored more than a few Gyro TACs in my games.

>For assault: BattleMaster or Victor?
You know... this lance is already pretty mobile at this point and we already have the Jagermech / Marauder as the ranged harasser... I'd go for the Victor. Again, a hole-maker that the Javelin and/or Jagermech can exploit

AU Clusterfuck Story time?

>Players start on city map
>"wait... who are we playing as?"
>you guys don't know.
>"...oh"
>all they know is that they're mechwarriors that are tasked with delivering a package - that one 'mech is carrying - to a building on the map
>allow players to ask a question once per turn, varied degrees of difficulty on 2d6
>they keep bombing the rolls
>some questions asked weren't particularly helpful to the immediate situation
>"what year is it"
>players decide to go along with their mysterious directives and plant the device(following wiping aside the easy-peasy militia)
>battlemaster and griffin cease to exist in any meaningful sense
>thunderbolt jumps 12 hexes while deconstructing itself along the way
>zeus happened to have slipped and fell on the pavement in the movement phase so was protected
>building still fell on him
>survived

And that's how my players took out the last PPC focusing ring production facility in the FWL.

cont.

>>52846662

So the first game was kind of on rails, with options for players to jump off the rails. I didn't expect anyone to survive unless they jumped the rails, but they stayed on the rails and one managed to survive. The surviving pilot was a regulan. Obviously this meant there was a whole new FWL civil war on.

The civil war was bad and ended up with nasty fighting on Atreus. Janos Marik was on the run, and the top guy in the Regulan forces was hot on his tail, along with the director of SAFE, a very distant Marik.

>players burn through Janos' bodyguards faster than expected
>No quarter given, Janos is killed
oh shit we deep in au now
>cleaning up the last few bodyguard units
>SAFE director backstabs the Regulans

nasty game, most of the royalty died. I should have taken that as a warning.
cont.

>>52846242
>Making an introtech Davion force.
>For light: Valkyrie or Javelin?
Which March? If you're in the Capellan March or on the Taurian border, a Valkyrie makes the most sense. Elsewhere, the Javelin is more common.

>For medium: Enforcer or Centurion?
I personally prefer the Centurion, but either is acceptable. You can add in a few Dervishes as well, which interlock well with all four of the light/Medium 'Mechs here.

>Not sure about a Davion heavy.
Rifleman/JagerMech, and a few Marauders? Really, it depends on what you have in your minis box. Toss a few RFL vartiants in there for flavor.

>For assault: BattleMaster or Victor?
Victor or Longbow. The Beemer is extremely rare in Davion space and highly-treasured. I prefer the Victor, but a few Longbows kick ass in the right formations.

I'm working on an AU campaign where the players are former LCAF hired as corporate security for a new mech factory in the Commonwealth. It's circa 3025 because new players.

The factory is small but up and coming. It builds only two mech designs (appropriately third succession war quantity), but ones not built in the Commonwealth in canon at this point: the Shadow Hawk and Black Knight.

I was wondering if anyone had some introductory level variants for those two mechs that might fit for the Lyrans. As custom rides for the players.

For now I'm calling the company "Lyran Emailwarenfabrik".

>>52846745
We decided to continue the theme of same AU, different characters

>PCs are chosen by AFFS general for special mission
>PCs chosen based on possession of a set of traits
>high levels of nationalist sentiment towards the Federated Suns, actively serving in the AFFS as astechs, and relatively few social connections
>PCs accept mission without being read into the details.
>Find out that the mission is to stop the wedding between Hanse and Melissa
>team has help from members of loki, so elements of the LC are in on it too
>justification is that if the marriage happens, civil war is inevitable, so if marriage can be stopped, lives will be saved
>Hanse, Katrina, and Melissa are at a clandestine meeting to discuss arrangements for the marriage
>bodyguard units in play, but reduced since they're trying to keep a low profile
>mission is to remove guard units and provide cover to a ground team which will deliver AFFS general and loki director to the royalty and plead their case for cancelling the marriage for the good of the two realms
>ground team is provided by loki, a group of Kuritan mercenaries that were left to die by the Combine years before, now work for loki
>expected result: Kuritans kidnap one or more of the royalty in an attempt to return to the good graces of the Combine, players rescue royalty and have to make the case themselves. Based on quality of argument, marriage can go either way
>actual result: all royalty die
well shit
>LCAF and AFFS think the other betrayed them
>Everyone fighting each other
>PCs make escape while blues and greens get into it

cont.

>>52844970

Nope.

They're fun, but not often very good until you get to the Tenshi. Most Drac machines are designed as mooks.

>>52846395

>cerberus
>good

Dual GRs are a good start but everything after that goes wrong, like packing the CT with explodium and failing to protect it adequately.

>>52846242

As >>52846769 notes, the BLR is a meme 'Mech for the Suns. People think they have a ton since Hanse was so prominent in the fiction, but they had the fewest of any state until after the 4th SW when they snagged most of the ones that belonged to the CapCon and added them to their own. The Stalker and Longbow are going to be considerably more common for them, and the Victor is a well-known and common Davion ride as well.

>>52846943

Why Black Knight, out of curiousity? The Lyrans build the Marauder at Bowie and can easily retrofit to -3D specs, plus they have the Flashman which would be the kind of variant I'd be looking at on a BLK any way.

>>52846943
My preferred lyran shad refit is basically a K with a SRM-6 instead of LRMs, and keeping the ML.
Not sure about the black knight, though

>>52847032
>>mission is to remove guard units and provide cover to a ground team which will deliver AFFS general and loki director to the royalty and plead their case for cancelling the marriage for the good of the two realms
Did you really fall for this? It's totally like "we totally aren't gonna shoot them as traitors so we can make the FedSuns/Commonwealth great again"

>>52847032
>PCs now trying to get offworld in one piece
>need repair, but the Leopard they came in on is captured before they get there
>camp a few clicks from a town with an agromech repair shop
>one PC goes to politely ask owner of said repair shop to take a few days off work
>eats a mayonnaise sandwich in a threatening manner
>somewhat effective
>PCs elect to continue work operations at the shop so as not to raise suspicions
>one job has them delivering a repaired industrialmech to a mysterious archaeological dig site
>seems kinda comstar-y
>PCs end up making meaningful contact with the dig site individuals and sign on with them
>show up just as the LCAF are assaulting the site
>one particularly bloodthirsty member of the LCAF team is identified as Katherine Steiner(whoo she didn't die after all!) who appears to be most upset at the death of her daughter
>the PCs can tell this because some of the crew of the dropship has been chained to her Warhammer
>more accurately, what's left of them has been chained to her warhammer
>agromech repair shop owner turns out to be a militia veteran who shows up with his boys to find what in tarnation is going on
result: Katherine dies, agromech repair shop guy is supremely vexed at PCs, dig site folks try to leave without PCs but luck into getting onto the dig site guys dropship
>Dig site guys aren't comstar, they're NETC

and that's where we are now

>>52847143
I think the players had suspicion that it was going to go down like that, but the characters were young and idealistic. They RP'd them well. Still, the abduction came at them sideways and shooting mech-scale weapons at the abductees vehicle probably wasn't the best call

One player picked up Melissa as she chased after said vehicle with an assault rifle, intending to use her as a bargaining chip to get out alive. A AFFS medium didn't notice that she was in his 'Mech hand and multiple missiles hit the arm location she was in. Shredded teenage royalty is a pretty good way to make yourself look like the bad guy.

>>52847310
>One player picked up Melissa as she chased after said vehicle with an assault rifle, intending to use her as a bargaining chip to get out alive. A AFFS medium didn't notice that she was in his 'Mech hand and multiple missiles hit the arm location she was in. Shredded teenage royalty is a pretty good way to make yourself look like the bad guy.

>>52847201
>>one particularly bloodthirsty member of the LCAF team is identified as Katherine Steiner(whoo she didn't die after all!) who appears to be most upset at the death of her daughter
>>the PCs can tell this because some of the crew of the dropship has been chained to her Warhammer
>>more accurately, what's left of them has been chained to her warhammer

Ha ha holy fuck you really fucked up. This is fucking amazing.

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What even is bottom? Most Domini look at least relatively human, are there any other examples of them taking it to the extreme?

>>52847715
Fully combat-spec MD get full myomer implants, dermal armor, all that jazz. The Tau Zombie squad illustration has them look like they're Hulk-lites.

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weird bump

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>>52847098
Good for the DC, compared to the rest of the options available. For example, Atlas AS7-K.

The V3 almost fixes the problem, but not entirely. Compared to the Gunslinger though, it's biggest advantages are a more effective set of backup weapons to handle rushers, and it shaves a hundred or two BV off the roster, which can be put towards beefing up other mechs.

>>52850892
What animal feet does that look like? Elephants?

Shadow Hawk -7CS or -7M?

>>52852354
Are those in MegaMek?

>>52852773
I'll check

>>52852773
Yeah.

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>>52840154
>No, it's just a really awful 25-year-old paint job. Back then, I used enamel paints, and I hadn't the skills or materials to do the paint job right.

I painted all of these with enamel paints, too. Still pretty embarrassingly bad. I don't even know that St. Duncan had been born yet.

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>>52852354
Against my better judgement I love LGRs. I can't help it.

>>52853439
Thank you!
>downloading...

I need Grasshopper variants. It's such a fun ride, even in its introtech variant.

Preferably variants geared towards ComStar/WoB. But no C3 required, it'll be a lone ranger.

My group might be doing a series of "Damocles commando" type games set during Operation Odysseus.

>>52853483
It's a niche weapon, yeah, but if you know how to play it the LGR is great.

Though admittedly I'd have not put it on as many machines as the FWL did. Purple birds what were you thinking?

>>52853535
Wobbies are the ones who got the OG Lantren factory back up and running. That's where all their specific variants come from. Too early for your game though. You basically have the 5H, 5J, and 5N

>tfw they retconned the 5N back a 3rd time even further on the MUL
Hah. By the end of the year it will be in the 3030's.

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>>52853535

>>52854189
>Light PPC in 3058

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>>52853656
Yeah, was hoping someone here might have homemade variants to share. If I'm going canon I'll probably take the -5H. Despite everything it's still I think a more balanced ride than the -5J or -5N.

>>52854189
Thanks for the contribution but tech-wise I'm looking at an earlier time.

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>>52854355
How's this?

>>52855178
MPLs are actually a good idea. I might reexamine mine.

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>>52854355
>Yeah, was hoping someone here might have homemade variants to share.
Sure, love the 'Hopper. This swaps some shit around and loses the zombie side for speed and NARC spotting. I have other variants as well.

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>>52854355

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>>52854355
>>52855548
Here's a Royal assassin variant. Expensive but ComStar's gotta love it.

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Come at me.

>>52855178
>>52855548
What program do you guys use to get yours like that? And what font?

>>52856076
Very simple.
Use Megamek or Skunkworks.
Use the "Export to text" command in the menus
Open Paint.net or whatever paint program you got
Use text tool and paste.
There ya go!
Don't know what to do about the font.

daily reminder victor couldnt get a regular gf, he had to get a gook. never trust those who must settle for irregular gf.

>>52856076
>What program do you guys use to get yours like that? And what font?
I cut and paste from SSW into good old Notepad.
I use Calibri Light or any monospace font; Notepad automatically uses it anyway. You can also use it in paint or whatever if you want
After that you pop <ctrl>-<prtscrn> (that's the printscreen button), paste it into MSpaint, and crop the TRO readout out of the Notepad in your screenshot.

Takes about 15 seconds all-told..

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He needed a roast beef-fed gf.

>>52856552
>fight on the drac front
>get isolated from unit dueling drac panther
>you defeat the enemy and force the pilot to eject
>go to capture the drac
>the pilot looks like that
>believes she has dishonored herself by defeat and is now yours
>only you can rehabilitate her to join the affs and fight for freedom
>also make her your waifu

Alternatively
>be smoke jaguar
>capture her
>bondswaifu sex whenever not burning villages

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>>52855178
Note that that one is Clan right down to the ground because of reasons I can't recall when I made it.

>>52853535
Take more, I have lots.

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>>52856835
>smoke jaguar
Does her appearance automatically make her superior genes? Does she get a booby-blood name or something?

>>52856835

>wanting to fuck some clan slag

Friendly reminder that trashborn are not even human.

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YOU WANTED ME
YOU WANTED MEEEEE

Got a design challenge for y'all:
We have Mad Clats for almost every weight class. Now design a light Clan Sea Fox would try to shill.

>>52857633
>>52857741
I meant "be a smoke jaguar" as in you capturing a drac qt3.14

>>52857964
What, no CLPLs?

>>52858087
CLPLs are for noobs. You can fire back at them. Only noobs play two-player games in clan battletech.

>>52858139
Clan LPLs are good, but there are ways around them either via stacking the fuck out of TMM (By vipers, for example), or just being tough enough to close.

And then you do something silly like hit him with 10 CSRM6 at once or something/..

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>>52858193
Well it's not 10, but here's a Phoenix Hawk IIC to do most of the SRM volley.

>>52858289
I like it!

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>>52858054
>I meant "be a smoke jaguar" as in you capturing a drac qt3.14
That was my reference. Once she's captured, does the clanner automatically want to give her a blood name.

>>52857632
CA can you rate mine? >>52855403

>>52858289
It's like a highly mobile, well armored SRM carrier. Would pilot and irritate free born.

>>52856552
More like rice, daikon and squid eyes.

>>52858585
Nice triple 85. As for the mech, if you're gonna have the SRM, at least put it in the head. Otherwise it feels off. As it is, I think the LRM is a bit of a waste, since you're not really in a position to gain a lot from SG LRMs, and would more likely be the spotter for such. I'm also not the biggest fan of ERMLs anymore, because of how hot they run for the increase in range. Overall, not bad, the heat means that the LRM isn't something you use once you're in medium range.

>>52858601
It's less rage inducing than my 15 SRM-6 SRM Carrier at least.

>>52858719
>It's less rage inducing than my 15 SRM-6 SRM Carrier at least.
I disagree. I saw that carrier. I don't think it would survive as long as the P-Hawk IIc that can jump behind your ass and sandblast you like it's Bob Vila.

>>52858719
Ok, thanks for the input. I thought it might need some changes.

>>52858785
Considering I made both, I know that the Carrier has overall more kills because it's much cheaper BV wise and I only use it in urban fights. Though both of these machines existing on my table does mean that my players really like AMS, and wish it was more useful.

>>52858867
You should put your name on your neat stuff. I have minor OCD and save everything that comes up around here.
Anyway side note, is it possible to load SRMs with smoke and be a pain in the ass that way?

>>52856552
>>52857633
>>52858576
I-I want to serve a kawaii femCoordinator!

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>Still focusing on lasers for the Grasshopper
>Not using the Grasshopper for its true purpose

>>52859883
Is this OC, on my /btg/?

>>52860074
It's more likely than you think.

>>52859883
It has great knee pads for going down on a Grand Dragon.

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>>52847715
I'd fuck it

>>52847715
>>52860542
Post more Manei Domini/WoB?

>>52860542
I just finished watching the retsupurae of the long play of Dark Seed 2. In the game the main protag walks up to a creepy H. R. Giger looking bio-mechanical chick like that and pretty much gushes about how hot she is. It made the retsupurae guys and myself bust up laughing.
You sir, are that protag.

>>52858941
I missed this, but I would have to go back and add some sort of identifier to (now) over 700 pictures if I went back and edited. I guess I could make a rar or something, but does anyone really want that? I do tend to make my stuff relatively identifiable, using the -G designation mostly, though Word and Republic stuff get -W and RS as appropriate. And that Orion with the XXLFE... Fuck I have too many customs.

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>>52860542

>>52858667
I'd eat her squid eye.

>tfw will never get pegged by katrina steiner

/meal/ for this feel?

>>52861681
It's just me, since I have OCD, but I like giving credit where credit is due. You make a lot of good stuff. When I post junk from my archives a lot of times I have no idea where it came from. Hell, I have a mess of old /btg/ from somewhere around the late 2000s through I think early 2012 (which is why that stuff ended up on the booru.)

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>>52861917
I'd rather have her daughter.

>>52862011
But if were talking daughters then ill just take her daughter then.

>>52853557
Gotta outrange the Elsies.

Plus the long bands help vs stealth armor

>>52862238
Why do the purple birds hate the Lyran state so much?

>>52862259
Might have something to do with their incessant attempts to invade us.

>>52862337
I may have to review the sourcebooks but I remember it being the FWL constantly invading Commonwealth border worlds.

>>52862259
Because Lyrans are Germans and FWL represents all the worst parts of every other European and Balkan state thrown together with random UK parliament system.

>>52862337
>>52862392
All lies I assure you, that hive of warmongers the Steiners.......They cant help but stir trouble with every neighbor. You see the Free Worlds League has never once been the agressor. It is time to free the shackles cast of hate and fear and embrace freedom.

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>>52862424
>european and balkan state

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>>52862442
>>52862392
Reminder for close to 200 years, FWL had a literally territory penis entering the rear end of Lyran Space

>>52862511
Actually it was FWL territory which was engulfed by bloodthirsty Lyrans looking for a fight.

Fucking hell if i need to correct one more Lyran shill im bombing the nearest HPG.

>>52862442
>>52862511
>>52862646
This sounds like FWL propaganda.

In Operation Guerrero, when the FWL invaded Lyran territory, Lyran units willingly withdrew to avoid a needless fight (that they didn't start) and save lives. That didn't stop the FWL from plunging every world they could take into a den of war they called the Chaos March.

When will the purple bird lies end?

>>52862743
>posting literal fucking bullshit
Tell me how big is Victor's cock? I assume you're very familiar with it.

>>52862392
Only time the FWL has attacked first is when the Elsies were massing and the Burds launched a spoiling attack.

>>52862511
How did the FWL not chew off that stump during that time?

>>52863026
Because the League is a peaceful state that only acts in defense of itself.

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I probably missed when this thing was initially discussed, but what does /btg/ think about it? It's supposed to be an Industrial mech converted into a battlemech.

>>52863649
I like it. It's something I wish we had gotten more of back in the day during the Succession Wars. We kinda got it in the Dark Ages but that sucked so it doesn't count.

In-game, it's a busted piece of shit because most of its weapon mounts are really high and it can fire from cover really well. The only saving grace is that its side torsos are vulnerable as fuck so you can kill it if it has an XL with little trouble.

Needless to say, I hope the Russian hops on board and churns some out for us. In practice, it's really just a fat Shadow Hawk.

>>52863792
Yeah I could see this sort of thing being more commonplace in the Succession Wars when mechs were rare. It's still a little weird from the lore perspective that it's a NEW battlemech, not a refit. I would think a new one would look a little more like a Battlemech and not a jury rigged mess.

>>52863649
Interesting mech ruined with shitty fluff that ignores BT lore.

>>52864650
>worrying about MWO ignoring BT lore
>being this much of a grognard
I'm an Introtech fan and even I think you're retarded.

Which front of the 3rd succession war do you guys think is the most interesting to run something in?

>>52863792
They really just need to add a public stock mode for people, but then again It wouldn't make them money

>>52864693
Randall made it canon

>>52864764
Elsies and Burds

>>52861185
>RP of the LP of DS2
Holy shit, I cannot believe that you and I had the patience to sit through that. There was something *wrong* with the man who was LPing it, like he was a robot or something, just trying every combination in sequence until something changed.
Nya-hey, ya missed pal

So my AToW campaign is kicking off next week. I had my 'session zero' with the players today, talking about what they wanted to play.

>We want to be mercs, because that way we're not tied down
Makes sense, good start
>And we're from all different parts of the innersphere, Two Dracs, a Lyran and a Feddie
Perfect, the dynamic is going to be cool.
>Player 1: I want a Hunchback...
Can do, we're using intro-tech so...
>...To punch people with. I love the fists. Punchback!
Aha... (Secretly panics about melee range hunchback instadeaths)
>Player 2: I want a Daishi
Sorry dude, we're running intro-tech, and I don't think you'll be starting with assault mechs
>Ah... *sulks and spends rest of session reading about using traits to get better starting vehicles*
Oh dear, there goes the person who had the most knowledge about the setting... maybe I'll just have to budge on this one...
>Player 3: I want the one from the front of Mechwarrior 3
Ah sorry again dude... thats not introtech
>Man so there's like no good mechs
Sorry dude, its just, things get really unbalanced and complicated, and I want to save that stuff for later.
>Player 4: I'm piloting Gypsy Danger from Pacific Rim.
Oh cool! Yeah, well maybe a Phoenix Hawk or a Crusader can stand in for...
>*Places Hero Clix Gypsy Danger on table* I'm. Piloting. Gypsy. Danger.
Um... okay then, let me just break out the mech creation rules...

My game is either fucked or going to be awesome. I have a horrible feeling that the guy who wanted the daishi is planning on attempting to a way to find the clan homeworlds just so he can get clantech...

>>52864790
I'd be down with that actually.

>>52866259
I made a gypsy for fun at one point. Put a pic in each arm and a laser in the CT and call it a heavy. Give it swords if you want. It's not bad per se...but it's not great either.

As for clantech guy, there is no way he'll be able to find his way to the home world's, what with the exodus road being so secret.

Mw3 guy a mad or a cat.

Honestly it seems like your players want to play later eras, I would start them at the eve of the clan invasion and let them fight through it. Daishi and madcat guy can trial for their mechs and gypsy dude can have lostech to make his mech better.

>>52866259
If Daishifag asked for a basic Highlander, would you accept that?

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>>52866259
Now is the time to crush them under your heel and make them understand the setting. Give Daishi man his mech, just give him pic related and when he complains, explain you're dyslexic with Clanshit. The Gypsy Danger guy can suck a dick, he gets the Crud 3L and like it or lump it. You should have thrown TRO:3039 at them and put on your best Rolf impression.

>>52866259

Your players have the right idea. There's not a single good reason to play intro level stuff when Clantech exists, aside from the GM (that's you) having a power trip and denying them their right to create the characters they want. If the rules let players start with Clantech, then it's not your place to stop them from taking it if that's what they want.

>>52865000
He also made grand larceny an acceptable business practice, so I don't know how much faith you want to put in him.

>>52866382
I don't think he minds if its good or not, just wants the Jaeger, so I'll give it to him.

Yeah they aint going to the homeworlds, but I think I am going to have to push them into the clan-invasion era.

Honestly I was going to have them as taking the place of the Gray Death Legion in the current Campaign... I might just have them become Phelan Kell at this rate.

>>52866402

If he can find a way to find the 9,000,000 cbills he needs for it/ finds the traits to get one, I'm find with it, but realistically, the whole party is starting with around 10-15,000,000 cb, I doubt the party will let him spend the majority of it on an assault mech.

>>52866475
I am too much of a soft GM for that, but I am saving that Diashi for later... I feel like it could be useful if I get any complaints.

>>52862424
>with random UK parliament system
How horrifying.

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>>52865995
>There was something *wrong* with the man who was LPing it, like he was a robot or something, just trying every combination in sequence until something changed.
No argument here. Without the retsupurae guys making fun of it, I think it would be impossible to go through those LPs without suffering extreme brain damage.
When they made fun of the protag kind of hitting on the giant female head... priceless.

>>52866475
Pic related.

Anyone have a link to the Combat Manuals? Can't find 'em.

>>52867879
They are not in the three links of files on the OP or in that last pastebin part?

>>52864693
>worrying about what other people don't like
I'm a SJW and even I think you're retarded.

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So I was working on something for the TRO, and this happened.

>>52869473
Want. Do the rest, and add Carpenter Brut midis to the pages.

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>>52868796
>I'm a SJW and even I think you're retarded.
Well it's not like SJWs give a damn about anybody's preferences or rights when they try to act like dictators anyway, so... Pic related.

>>52869473
Kind of looks like 1980s neon signs, something you might find at the end of Big Trouble in Little China or something. Interesting.

>>52869473
I would go into a bar on Deneb Algedi with this hanging over it.

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>>52869482

>>52869484
Oh, does baby think I was trampling his rights? Take it back to /pol/ or /v/.

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>>52869546
Needs a little more work for pic related to happen.

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>>52869558
[/spoiler] You identified yourself politically as a hate filled scum bucket.
You made a real world enemy. [/spoiler]

>>52869546
Might make me want to take a tour of the old League as a merc once in a while.

>>52869558
>>52869587
Are you guys flirting?

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>>52869564

>>52869672
Well it was a good run for the SLDF guys, but my colors have always been purple with blue accents so... guess I'm a FWL fag now.

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>>52869691
But wait, there's more.

>>52869546
>>52869672
>>52869743


I feel like this is one of those old Animorph novel cover images that's going to end in an acid green cockfalcon.

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>>52869743
Too much blue. TOO MUCH. IT'S LIKE LOOKING INTO THE FACE OF JANOS MARIK!

>>52869765
>Say that to my forehead and see what happens.jpg

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>>52869765
Not quite, you only see >>52869743 when he fires the Janos Beam.

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>>52869762
>clanners

MINE EYES HAVE MELTED FROM THE GLORY OF HIS WORD

>>52870040
>>52869743
HE IS TRAMPLING OUT THE GENEBANK WHERE THE CLANNER SCUM ARE BORN

Today I will remind them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_by_combat

>One of the last mass trials by combat in Scotland, the Battle of the Clans, took place in Perth in 1396. This event took the form of a pitched battle between teams of around thirty men each, representing Clan Macpherson and Clan Davidson on the North Inch in front of the King, Robert III. The battle was intended to resolve a dispute over which clan was to hold the right flank in an upcoming battle of both clans (and several others) against Clan Cameron. The Clan Macpherson is thought to have won, but only twelve men survived from the original sixty.[13]

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>>52863649
If it were introduced for the Dark Age period, I wouldn't be arsed.

However, until CGL decide to vindicate it's existence by including it in a Succession Wars XTRO, it's nothing more to me than PGI treating the lore like a handicap rather than the only reason they've lasted as long as they have. Adding a new mech to the top of the stack, like with Mechwarrior 4, is one thing, but retconning something into existence during a long established, long *finalised* part of the lore sits poorly with me.

>>52870773
I totally agree. It's an ass-pull to me. I don't like it.

>>52870773
I wouldn't even have minded them introducing it as a FCCW/Jihad era mech, especially since they're moving the game timeline up to 67, because it would fit just fine into the lore of those eras.

>>52870645
So the clans are space nazi scotsmen of the infinite reich that only took the rank titles from the mongolian monkeys so that space Hitler wouldn't have to listen to bleeding arses from the shitter sphere collectively go "OY VEY" across time and space?

That's fucking hardcore.

>>52869546
>>52869672
>>52869743
These would make a great levels of ___ image macro now that I think about it

>>52870773
At least it gave us a female mechwarrior showing the guys that women can pilot mechs too!

>>52872234
Yeah, not like the most feared merc of grogtech was a woman. Or that the ruler of the richest nation in the Inner Sphere geared up and hunted pirates from the cockpit of a Battlemaster in the very earliest material. Or that women are super common rulers and mechwarriors over the entirety of the setting.

Not like Sunny married a mechwarrior amazon princess
Not like Titus married the scariest Regulan Hussar commander who ever had a pair of tits
Not like his father's favorite side dish wasn't an assassin mechwarrior sexbot
Not like the female Dark Age Coordinator was raised as a mechwarrior
Not like the clans have had tons of female mechwarrior khans from Sara McEvedy in the very beginning to Sterling and Cockfalcon McMongolDoctrine in the most recent era

So that being the case, it sure is nice that they finally did something to include women in the game.

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>>52872234

>>52872897
>from Sara McEvedy in the very beginning
Why go with that chalcas piece of shit wheny you can have Colleen Schmitt?

>>52873811
Because when it comes to clanners, the less clanner the better.

>>52873943
What was that one meme some anon made a while ago based on a real life quote? Something about how does such and such feeling when they take a human life, and the person said they didn't kill people, only clanners?

>>52867233
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5P6UirFDdxM
This is still the pinnacle of the RP, if you ask me.
Failing the ring toss was one of the brightest points of every cycle.

>>52872051
>fighting the cappies
>fighting the lie-rans
>fighting yourself

>>52870773
Oh you mean like the 3039 asspull? Asking "Asspull Inc." to stop asspulling is like asking Best Korea to stop being the best. Save your breath and deal. Else you're in for a world of sperg.

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>>52875365
Every, freaking, time, and it only got funnier.
I want someone to rifftrax / retsupurae the BT cartoon. I used to know some funny ass guys that could get away with something like that.

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>>52875365
>>52877063
>>52867233

Sadly, From the last Retsuprae video I saw over two years ago we will never get that again.

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>>52877161
But... but they still do some type of videos... right? They're still fahney, right?

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>>52870773
>retconning something into existence during a long established
Okay, technically yes. Though you could politely call the fleshing-out FASA did on the first half of the 3000s "patchy".

>long *finalised*
Yeah, no. FASA was still adding in 3015s lore as backfill during the late 1990s. One of FP/Catalyst's first books was Brush Wars - which, other than the art, is almost universally acclaimed around here. That lore's about as final as your whore of a mother's wedding vows.

>sits poorly with me.
So you admit it's a personal problem? Good, then we can move on.

Now, I will say that bumping UP the tech curve, rather than just fucking about with what's available to patch glaring gaps and/or retarded errors in previous work, is irritating. But adding in an upgraded MOD to the 3050s, when even the first printing of 3025 talks about BattleMech technicals being a thing that's both >a) extant and >b) not worth ComStar's attention as a real battlefield force element? Yeah, it's >exactly< the kind of thing that retconning is supposed to add. See also: the Chameleon, the Primitive Griffon, the Mackie, Super Wasps, et. al.

So, basically, you can go suck a dick. I'm letting them into my tables, and you can be a miserable old cunt over in your "books from 1986 are the only authority" corner.

>>52866259
>introtech campaign
>wonders if it is going to suck

>>52877631
Why the butthurt towards him?

>>52877631
>See also: the Chameleon, the Primitive Griffon, the Mackie, Super Wasps, et. al.

Not him but all of of that shit came out when 3025 was current year, so really doesn't help your example. They just got extra art or revised stats later.

Not that I disagree with you in general. But I do agree with him that it gets fucking tiring when they keep dumping so many new designs into older eras. If I see another Star League prototype made in the 2770's, I'll smack a bitch.

For this particular example, whatever. It fits more in line with darkest grogtech or something like the Jihad but the only thing offensive is the silly SJW slant to the fluff. Randall should know better. In fact he does. I've got old novels with his name on the cover that show he does. It just means he tactically did it to send a message. And that's only offensive because it means he values sending that message more than if the statement fits into Battletech. Dude needs to get his priorities straight. Fake Space Politics>Real Politics when you run the space universe.

>>52877912
No real butthurt, I just enjoy insulting people.

>>52878005
Yeah, Randal jumped on the virtue signal train pretty hard. Then again, with all the death and rape threats the SJWs throw around can you blame him?

...I mean, he IS a coward, a liar, and a thief, but caving to a mob of screaming bullies is pretty far down the list of things that make him a shitburger.

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Post mech designs you'd like to see more of

Designs from outside Battletech are ok too

>>52878800
If only for just the snout

This particular version of Zeon will work this time!

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>>52878870
Forgot image

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>>52878800

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>>52878929
Cheeky

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>>52878800
I am so old.

>>52878929

You're lucky >>52878800 said that designs from outside Battletech were OK, or I'd report you to Harmony Gold legal. Still, it's not appropriate to bring in mecha designs that have completely nothing to do with Battletech in a Battletech general thread.

>>52879227
How long have you lurked here? We have threads from time to time stating mechs from outside the franchise.
In other words, you are either a teasing (my guess,) or summer has arrived.

>>52879261
He's trolling and you're falling for it. Next time, just ignore the bait.

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>>52879119
Blakebots, roll out!

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>>52878800

too bad the animu was boring shit

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>>52878800
I wish this is how it actually looked.

>>52879277
>missing the joke this hard

>>52878303
Being a SHE-Jew is like being molested by your uncle. There's something off about him, but everyone regards him very highly, so you trust him, and then on a family camping trip out at Montauk Point he takes advantage of you. Years later, you accept and acknowledge what happened, but you still refuse to believe that he's scarred you, because that would put him in control, not you, and the last thing you want is a molester in control of your life -- but your denial doesn't make it the truth. You want to believe that deep down inside, the SHE-Jew is a good person, and you see that the SHE-Jew has very redeeming qualities, but you sit down to try and play a game and all you can think of is the goyim's hard, throbbing shekel.

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Okay, loaded question time.
Let's say... Randall has a really bad day, I mean a really bad day and he can no longer screw up the franchise, like ever.
Would anyone accept this idea: Everything Randall wrote for BT goes out the window, permanently. Then everything gets rewritten by someone without his personal failings.
Would you accept a small reboot of the stuff this idiot has touched?

>>52880713
What is this "SHE-Jew" crap?

Speaking as a Jewish girl who plays BT I literally don't get your weird joke.

>>52877631
>That lore's about as final as your whore of a mother's wedding vows.

Chill nigga damn

>>52878005
>I've got old novels with his name on the cover

That was before he got brainwashed

>>52881101
Yes

>>52881101
Despite Randall's semi-recent failings, I'd rather not the entirety of his work be thrown out. It should be examined and let the community decide what parts to keep and dump the rest. Even a blind pig finds a truffle, to use that turn of phrase.

Gonna purge Randall's 20 years on the line for ideological failings. Better believe right or what you do don't matter. Prime SJW shit right here.

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Thoughts on Dracs?

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>>52881640
Coming to like them more and more as the years drag on. When I first got into the game almost 20 years ago, I went Drac because weeaboo. Now, I look at them through the same lens as I do the CapCon: black hat mooks that are fun to play because of their shortcomings in my preferred eras of play, and since I enjoy being OpFor, it suits me just fine. "Mookness" is another reason I gravitate towards the Periphery as well, and underdog-type factions as well as pirates. That's just my style, I guess.

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>>52881718
Nothing wrong with that. I also enjoy playing Drac to be the "bad guy" for other people's games.

Btw, can anyone shoop the dog on her hat to be the Kurita dragon?

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>>52881520
with SHE-JEWS
you LOSE

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Since it's silly time, is there a BT version of the country meme balls?

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>>52881855
Sure thing hoss.

>>52881101
Rewriting it is a waste of time, money, and resources that could be put into hiring an editor, a line developer with some guts, and a couple half-way decent authors to move forward with the game's storyline. We still bitch about FASAnomics, and they are fucking silly, but you can cover a lot of sins with the "unreliable narrator" convention. Randal was a decent author once, and no matter where we wind up drawing the line and saying "here was the shark jumped", it's not gonna make everyone happy.

Besides, CGL is up shit's creek already, now that they've driven off Rome by refusing to actually pay him for his line dev work and consistently shorting him on his pay as an author. There's about as many people left willing to work for them as there are with Kevin "manic-depression's poster child" Sembieda. I have a feeling we're heading into the same Palladium deathspiral right now, where they have just enough money to keep it afloat but the inner circle can never quite muster enough cash to pay for anything but promises and a Gen Con booth.

>>52881520

It's the morally correct thing to do. If you can't live up to a minimum moral standard of behavior, then you (and by extension your work with your name on it) are unfit to be remembered.

The genuinely sad thing is that we can't retroactively go back and perform this sort of necessary cleansing across human history, wiping away the records of oppression by white men. Fortunately we live in a time where we can start to give back to the oppressed classes, as long as we're careful to keep white men in their lesser place.

>>52882710
But you didn't do anything.

That is the way of ZOG and Communism. To make people THINK they did something when they did NOTHING AT ALL.

That's why you have high taxes, Socialism, and all of this "feel-good" bullshit.

Because none of you cake eaters understand what it means to come from the ground.

None of you know the Riddle of Steel.

Because Odin looks down and expects an answer.

Your boss might be some Communist or Joo.

My boss is a Nordic Valkyrie. A valkyrie named Hotaru.

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>>52882710
>>52882765
>baiters baiting baiters

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/pol/ is asleep, post best mech.

>>52882935
Alright, sounds good. Pic related.

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>>52883009
You failed anon. In response, have the best timeline.

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>>52882935
I think you accidentally posted the wrong .jpg

Here I'll fix that and upload the correct one.

>>52883045
What is this, a Highlander drawn by Rob Liefeld?

>>52883031
Did I, anon? Did I?

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>>52881640
>Thoughts on Dracs?
I've speculated for a long time that the point of divergence between the BT universe and ours is that in it the Allies invaded Japan and nuked Germany. It explains post-Meiji imperialism surviving for so long, and the general weakness of the European power bloc in BT pre-history. Not to mention Russia's survival into WWIII

But that's as may be.

Kurita forces are interesting to play tactically, with overgunned Mediums and over-fast Heavies romping about like fucktards all over the field. Their Assaults tend to be decent but not overwhelming and their Light production is just flat-out weird. It really is true that you can't relax around the Dracs - there's nothing quite like pinning down an enemy force with the hurricane of PPC shots coming downrange from the Panthers while your heavies charge in at full speed to kick the legs off of everything that stands still. If you can maneuver well and get mildly lucky, it's damned hard to stop a Drac force from getting where it wants to be. Now, actually killing shit? That's a problem. But I'm kinda okay with the challenge.

Dracfags, like most of the other factionfags, are kind of insufferable, but I work with weeaboos all the time in my job so I can kinda tune those out. The "Nazis didn't go far enough" guys are harder, but they usually gravitate towards the WoB anyway. Then I buy their minis and stuff them in the OPFOR dungeon..

You know what the best thing about the Dracs is, though? You can use the same damned force lists, paint job, and models to play the Fedsuns' Drac March Militia and Sword of Light. Gotta love a two-for-one OPFOR collection...

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>>52882765
>>52882710
>>52881892
>>52880713
>Same Person
Nazbol leave

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>>52882112
Its not the best, hopefully someone who know how to clean scaled images can fix it

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>>52882935
I like 'em thicc.

>>52883243
Love the Thud SE. It's like a bigger better version of the Shad.

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>>52882935
Its stupidly powerful, it ruins games, but even I can't ignore how stylish it is.

And how I will never own a miniature of it ever

>>52883501
I will never not see a dude whistling when I look at this thing.

>>52883062
No, its a Highlander drawn by FD

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Huh, so that's where the Vixen design went. Good they at least put it to use unlike >>52883501

>>52883501
I like to use the old Rifleman IICs as the equivalent of boss characters in a campaign at times.
>>52884154
Very sweet. Would pilot.

>>52883501
I had a mini of it. I dunno what happened to it. I suspect my friend from long ago has it because we spit the minis up amongst each other at one point. It was actually a very good mini.

lets keep this going with a new thread...
>>52884367