Post your favorite trope. >Enemies are forced to work together

>>52771979
H-HAYAI

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>>52771979
>The evil Empire is based off Rome

>>52772924
Gaius, get the cross

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Chekhov's guns that wait an extremely long time before firing off.

Lots of them.

The Hero gets it wrong and makes everything worse

>>52771979
>The villain's second-in-command, who has held out this long out of loyalty for the man his boss used to be, cannot stand the monster he has become and betrays him, aiding the heroes.

>>52771979
>The prophecy was just a madman's rambling

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>>52772924
The evil empire is Ruled by an evil wisard, and his empire is being controlled .

>>52773041
OR

>The prophecy was translated poorly from an ancient language

>>52771979
>The bad guy's actually pretty reasonable, once you've cleared up the misunderstanding

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>>52772924
why are my ancestors always bad guys with british accents damn it

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>>52771979

>BBEG is uber-powerful but loses because he couldn't predict the actions of the heroes

>>52773077
OR
>The bad guy was the only one trying to protect everyone from a greater menace

>>52773084
Because the Italian accent isn't evil enough?

>reinforcements arrive at the darkest hour and proceed to fuck shit up
>hero arrives at darkest hour (after training arc) and proceeds to fuck up the villain
>grizzled old warrior/mentor proceeds to fuck shit up one last time, making everyone gape in awe
>good guy gets satisfying revenge
>a monster that isnt evil (hellboy, for example)

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>>52773120
eeeh, depends

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>Teaching a tribe or village of isolated peasants how to fight the new evil that threatens their lives.

>Villain acuqired his power through the use of ancient technology from a civilization now long dead

>>52773141
>Brooklyn accent
>"italian"

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>>52771979
> Anonymous people raise up to heroism, even for a moment.
> Good deeds being unexpectedly rewarded.

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>>52773070
The One Man Army is also a favorite of mine

>>52773107
I did this once. After all, the best way to save the world from a positive-energy-devouring monster is to end all life. A rew race of golems could live happily ever after.

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A group tries hard but dies in the end...

>>52773170

>the guinea who came to the US as a child and still spoke with an Italian accent has a Brooklyn accent

>>52773170
italian accents vary a lot, my accent is completely different from that of a genoan or even of someone leaving 30km to the north of where i live, at least the "sicilian" accent is recognizable everywhere

>>52773084
>>52773120
I remember rolling my eyes at englandromans all the time, but then I watched some show where they distributed accents based on current geography and now I'm fine with them.

>hero wins using mundane shit from their humble origin rather than super shit from their hero training

>>52773120
Buca de beppo alfonso

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>>52773241
that is a magnificent villain name, paesà

>>52773220
what show, Rome?

>The uncouth savages turn out to be the best allies a civilized hero could ever ask for.

>Unsung heroes getting their day.

>>52773198
Love that one. I'll run one-offs in my campaign world just for the fun of it, or to give the players some meta-insight into the world, or to explain how a thing got somewhere.

Good fun.

>>52773120
You never heard us swear.

>>52771979
>That idea's so dumb, it's brilliant

>>52773345
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VvV4e6v4Hs

exactly

>One of the heroes long time companions dies causing the remaining heroes to go into frenzy

Ace Combat 5 did this the best

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuaQflZr3Fo

>You can befriend the monster and make it fuck up its master

Fantasy settings where bits and pieces of ancient sci-fi tech dot the landscape and are hidden in obscure places. The rotting remains of a mecha has become the object of worship for a mountain cult, a ray gun with three shots left turns up in a desert bazaar, the water dungeon leads into an old submarine, stuff like that.

>>52773562
I'm working on a setting like that where the bad guys are able to conquer everything soo quickly because they find a functional Battleship

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>BBEG has 4 themed generals

>>52771979
That pic is fucking cool

>>52773071
This often feels too much like a badly justified asspull.

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>>52771979
>Corrupt nobility
>Corrupt church
For some reason, i also like the subversions of these tropes.

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>>52773603
>one of the generals betrays his boss.

>>52773562
Numenera is based on a setting like that if I'm not mistaken.

I once homebrewed a skirmish game like that where Bronze Age-like civilizations worshipped war walkers from past ages as mysterious oracles and demigods of war.

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>>52773644
>mfw they make the church look corrupted and evil but in the end they are the only force holding this world from the brink of darkness

>>52771979
Damsel out of distress?

But then again, the very first "adult" film my parents let me watch was Dead Calm, which is all about this stuff, so go fucking figure

>>52773194
I would let the monster eat the world if I'm gonna die anyways. Fuck golems.

>>52773644
Meanwhile I'm fucking sick and tired of this shit. EVERYONE has it. Sometimes the corrupt church exists solely fro some one-line quip or shit-tier plot device that required a vast, old institution being blatantly evil. Why not church, right?

Shit's more dead than the horse from The Godfather.

>>52773377

>the monster, golem, giant, animal, big simpleton, etc dies helpibg ir saving the protagonists

I hate this one actually. Its right up there in shitty tropes with

>hero's adventure comes to an end and now they are forced to return to their shitty mundane lives of being a nobody in real life but its okay because they 'learned a valuable life lesson'

If you ever fell into a fantasy workd and found great treasures, learned magic, saved princesses, befriended giants, etc, could you ever go back to this, /tg/? I sure as fuck couldn't.

>>52773643
Nah I always see it as a prank pulled in the players for believing too strongly in poorly worded riddles

>the raised/cloned dead friend came back wrong and eeeevvviiilll

>>52771979
Hero and Villain are both supernaturally augmented or effected in some way that makes them different from everyone else and both are being hunted/feared by normal people.

>the bad guys hate each other more than the good guys preventing them from ever winning

>the good guys also hate each other more than the bad guys preventing them from winning

>>52773751
It's okay if the prophecy is badly interpreted. It's shit if it's a bad translation of an invented language the players can't even translate themselves. You make them commit "mistake" they can't prevent or predict.

Make tehe prophecy false or propaganda if you're gonna just gonna go all "nope, don't trust shit people tells you just because".

>>52771979
Hero doesn't get stronger, he gets smarter and undergoes character development.
Villain doesn't get smarter, he gets stronger and refuses to change.
When next they meet, hero kicks the shit out of the villain. (Josuke v. BTD Kira, Jojo pt 4)

Character calls for aid against an apparently invincible enemy- and because he was actively involved in helping solve his allies' problems, the "invincible enemy" quickly gets its ass handed to it. (ME2, "nobody dies" ending)

>>52773643
what does it mean, "asspull"?

>>52773369
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t30JzS0LHpk

>>52773817
Well, you can also have the prophecy being explicitly dubious, I think it's ok if you aren't planning to use it as a twist.
Or you do something like in HP: is the prophecy true or not? Well that other guy is acting on it so it still matters anyway.

>>52773071
hah. Frankly for prophecies I like to start with something simple and straightforward, like an instruction manual for what to do when the magical death laser doom cannon starts malfunctioning. something simple like a straightforward instruction list of how to safely disable it and dispose of the resulting hazardous waste, and where the appropriate tools to do so are stockpiled.

So then ten or fifteen centuries pass. The empire falls. The next empire falls. The storehouses are looted or relocated. The instructions are translated through three languages, section four was eaten by kobolds, half the chapters on proper disposal were misfiled three centuries ago and no one living remembers they exist, and at some point someone decided that the text on the worst case scenarios for a failed shutdown was kind of dry and jazzed it up with all kinds of blood and thunder, and once again no one living knows how much of that is accurate and how much is just hyperbole.

And now the PCs have gotten a hold of it, and they need to seperate truth from historical BS, because some damn fool has dug up one of these old mana cannons and activated it without reading the instructions, and the PCs need to stop it before something catastrophically worse happens.

>>52773895
>what does it mean, "asspull"?

When the writer just pulls something out of nowhere that magically solves the problem related to deus ex machina. Something like suddenly the hero reveals that he has been "holding back" and reveals some new move that came out of nowhere.

>Protagonist has impossibly tragic backstory

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>>52771979
Asshole villain, after hanging out with and fighting alongside the heroes for a while, mellows out and becomes a morally ambiguous but friendly ally.

>dull fellow with Giants blood
>he has the same mindset as a child and is dependent on a parental figure
>party member is overly sweet motherly type and helps him learn basic life skills and sticks up for him
>goes full Giant Rage mode when his mother figure gets wounded in combat

I'm a sucker for gentle giant types who go postal only when absolutely necessary.

>>52773084
Don't worry not all of us do it

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>>52773739
Well, can't deny that this concept is overused. Though i would prefer if it's just corrupt people, not institution as a whole.
Also
>Protagonists are sticking up for the small guy

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>>52773995
that's reassuring

>>52773959
Reminds of a game I played in years ago, just after 3E had come out. PCs come across an Ogre in a cell. The Ogre was one of the BBEG'S mooks, but had been locked up for being unusually moral for an Ogre. PCs ask "If we free you, will you help us get out of this dungeon?" Ogre responds "OK" and proceeds to free himself by bashing down the door and going with the party. Ogre and halfling sorcerer become best Bros and get up to all kinds of shenanigans. Halfling is the brains, Ogre is the muscle.

>Characters that are extremely anti-skub to hide the fact that they are secretly pro-skub, but embarrassed about it.

>note; skub is a stand in for almost anything. Magic/Religion/Elfs/etc

>>52773107
This my man. My current BBEG, a horrendously powerful immortal wizard, was accelerating technology artificially so that the world would be ready for an invasion from the frozen south face of the world-cube. Then the players kicked him off to another face. It's their problem now!

>>52773099
My players usually manage to pull stuff that I didn't plan for, so this happens a lot.

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>>52773375
>when the enemy pilots start panicking because no one can hit you after it happens

almost as good as the "you're not gonna believe this" chatter from ace combat 4

>>52773369
what are they arguing about

>>52772968
What about brick jokes that pay off half a decade later?

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>>52774359

3 or more combatants are involved in a fight and none of them are on the same side

>>52771979
>collect the X number of Macguffins
>defeat the big insert number bad guy team

>>52773949
my nigga

>>52773172
>Anonymous people raise up to heroism, even for a moment
This is the fucking best. Better still with weak NPCs standing their ground.

>People you've helped throughout the campaign show up to aid you in the final fight.
>Main characters only kill when absolutely forced to, and even then with great reluctance.
>Calm character goes apeshit.

>>52773220
Fucking This.
Nothing cooler than a hero saving the day with modest equipment and wit

>>52771979
Time Travel being employed to erase past sins.

And of course, bootstrapping the sins in the first place.

>>52773895
I had a prophecy in mind but I don't like it anymore. What could I do? I know, it was a bad translation and the correct one is what I like now! God, I'm a genius.

>>52774359

>half a decade

Why not longer? http://www.nuklearpower.com/2010/02/20/episode-1221-longest-set-up-in-webcomic-history/

>>52773749
I always like when Superman or someone ends up being a farmer when they're old. Most of my DnD characters who were heroes ended up just being crazy strong farmers/blacksmiths when they retire so they can live a simple life without worry again.

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>>52773929
>mana cannon

there goes the whole fucking planet

>>52773644
Seems like italy

>>52774884

Life is nothing but worties, and when upu have the power to change things, you feel the desire to, if not the responsibility for it.

Soon as some young buck bandits ride into town or anotger orc army invades they will be pulling their old adventuring gear out. You can take the man out of the wild, but you can never take the wild out of the man.

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>>52773603
>BBEG has seven themed generals
>BBEG has THAT ONE general who is more competent, more talented, and more powerful than them, but will not betray anyway

>>52771979
Anti-nihilism where characters who consider everything ultimately meaningless and accept that all of their actions do not matter in the grand scheme of things are good people regardless, because why not ? Also heroic sacrifice, if done right.

>>52773603
>>52775148
>Generals and BBEG all have their own distinct theme song

>>52773190
MEOW

>>52771979

>Hero has a single rival/nemesis with a similar/identical powerset to him.
>In order to defeat the rival, it takes everything out of the hero, using every power and trick he's learned since the start of the series, even skills and abilities he wasn't used in several episodes/installments, whatever.

>In a whole of demigods, supermen, and people strong enough to take on armies of nations single handedly and not break a sweat, the greatest and most personal of all of the reoccurring villains is just a man.

Lex Luthor is my go to guy for the last one.

>>52772924
Why is he white?

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>>52773645
>The Boss finds out about the plot and manipulates the PCs to find out about his general's location, get them to attack the traitor, manipulating events so they ultimately destroy each other.

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>>52771979
>the first character you meet is secretly the true BBEG

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>>52773949
A better version: the villain doesn't reform, he just becomes an ally to the hero.

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>An invincible warrior, training all his life for a duel with an equal

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>>52771979
>Party has to retrieve unicorn hair/horn/mount/whatever for a quest
>The Unicorn is not attracted to the delicate and beautiful PC/NPC but rather it is attracted to the burly manly Lawful Good PC/ random NPC.

Always good for a laugh.

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>gentle giants partnered with firecracker shorties
>gentle giants who then go ballistic when their partner gets injured

hell fucking yes.

Playing a team like this in a current game now with the wife. I'm the tiny caster, she's a huge combat golem

>>52773024
always love that shit

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>>52775638
>the pc/npc develops a relationship that cannot nor ever will be

>>52771979
>BBEG willingly becomes hero's waifu after being defeated

>>52775638

>Unicorn is attracted to
Uhhh, is this leading somewhere?

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>the villain tries to goad the seemingly perfect hero into losing his temper and lashing out
>finally succeeds
>realises this was a HORRIBLE idea

“There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.”

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>>52773154
>with six of your friends

>>52775831
>gentle man gets mad, wrecks shit
YES. It's just so satisfying!

>>52773024
>the villain genuinely cared about his subordinate and is devastated by his betrayal

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>>52775559
Sup.

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>>52771979
>Badass older guy/mentor

>>52775765
In you case I would suspect it leads to getting skewed by two feet of ivory, you lewd impure soul.

>>52773041
>prophecy was bullshit
>comes true anyway because of actions triggered by the prophecy

>>52775685
My companion of Nubian completion.

>>52775154
If you take the precept that nothing has any inherent meaning, then realize that it does because we've spent a very long time creating meanings for things, then decide to be a goddamn hero, you're great in my book.

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>>52775736
>Human makes the Unicorn mortal so they can be together
>Mortality causes the Unicorn to go mad, becomes the Scourge of the Forest, murdering all it sees, starting with the Human
>Human makes themselves immortal so they can be together
>Immortality causes the Human to go mad, becomes the Scourge of the Forest, murdering all it sees, starting with the Unicorn.

There were no children.

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>>52776084
Jesus.

>>52771979
>Story focuses on in-training/rookie/legacy characters
>Group is getting their ass kicked
>Veteran/mentor group swoops in and destroys whatever was giving the young group trouble and shows them what they'll look like after a few more years of training

>>52776162
megaman X is that you

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>>52772924
>The evil Empire is based off Rome
AHAHA
TIME TO CROSS THE RUBICON

>>52773921
That's honestly the best part of the Harry Potter series. Although desu I'm an absolute sucker for self-fulfilling prophecies, specifically "the prophecy only came true because you believed it to be true", à la Macbeth.

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>the greatest, most competent, most villainly villain isn't the final villain

>>52773753
Read the 'Gone' series by Michael Grant. It's written for young adults, but still worth it imo

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>an utter buffoon who seems to be comic relief is secretly an unstoppable machine of destruction that can oneshot anything if it manages to piss him off (not an easy task)

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>Hero lives long enough to become the villain

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>your oldest comrade who's been with you through thin and thick since the very beginning is the real BBEG

Most of this shit sounds like a fucking videogame, hell, a lot of you ARE posting videogames.

Get the fuck out back to /v/, /tg/ doesn't play videogames unless its BloodBowl. Out out out.

>>52773220
>hero wins using mundane shit from their humble origin rather than super shit from their hero training

Gets me every time.

Probably my favorite trope.

It's also nice when the hero can also put in a delayed comeback for something the BBUGH did to cause strife back on the farm at the beginning of the story as he's using his mundane humble shit to save the day.

>>52771979
>Barbarians do are so angry they literally do the impossible like murdering Death.

>The hero is very happily married to somebody who loves them very much, and nothing bad happens to them through the whole campaign.

>>52775342
Cuz' romans were white

>>52777553
Mediterraneans were olive skinned, you filthy barbarian.

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>>52773603
>>52775148
>That one ridiculous strong general that is actually not that evil and just honor bound one way or another and is the only one that challenges the party to a fair duel

>>52777076
>/tg/ doesn't play videogames unless its BloodBowl
How fucking new are you?

>>52777772
>missing the lucky 7 this hard
The shameful display would force me to commit Sudoku.

>>52773084
The reason given on HBO's Rome series was because it helped denote class more clearly. I think it worked pretty well.

>villains care about each other as much or even more than the main character squad

I like it when after proper build up,a calm character becomes and absolute madman and shits on everyone,think of Ned Flanders in the episode where he loses his house

>>52776771
Im pretty sure Jar Jar was supposed to be this trope,but then it was changed

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>>52771979
>that protagonist has no mercy and quickly dispatches the big bad, who was expecting a fair fight

>>52771979
>The destined hero is a relatable everyman plucked out of an ordinary life and thrust into adventure against his better judgement.

>>52771979
an actual, legit main character fucking dies when they should. Good or bad guys. I just hate it when people run through hails of gun fire and live. I want just a little bit of realism.

If the author/DM wants them to live, they at least could have given them some common sense to act in such a way that promotes that.

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>taking a session off from the main plot to develop one of the characters, TV-serial style
i know it's polarizing but I always enjoy it

>>52780226
I did a short memory sequence one off for 9ne of my characters and he loves it. Literally only one dice roll, it was mostly RP

>>52777586
gaulic/germanic auxiliary

>>52780286
The tricky part is keeping the rest of the party interested, but if your players are good and interested and it's not an online game, i've had good luck with making sure there's relevant things to the overall campaign within the sequence, and some cuts back to the rest of the crew.

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>someone gets the bruiser angry enough to turn into a lightning bruiser

Watching a punchy character go all out and wreck shit is so much fun.

Independent powerful individuals who don't align themselves with the good or evil sides, but are generally still well liked by both.

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relevant

>>52780323
I did it as a memory sequence so we could have it 1 on 1. That way it doesn't rely on everyone being free the same day and nobody else had to be involved in someone else's story. If you are putting it in a full session I would make sure it was related to the main story. Otherwise if the character could get away from the party sit down with them on an off night to do a one off session

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>Antagonist can be a comedic relief but is still a legit threat
I just love it when the villain can make me laugh.

>Minor supporting characters give their lives stalling for the main characters, proving that there's a hero in all of us

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>>52773099

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>the antihero/villain teams up with the hero and eventually sacrifices himself to save them

>hero comes from humble/uneventful background
>hero fights not for revenge or personal vendetta, but because it's the right thing to do
>hero is strongly religious

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>>52780423
>Lautrec
>at all reluctant

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>iron-hard skin makes the pipsqueak the tankiest partymember
It's the most patrician way to tank, imho

>>52780423
Giant dad should be at the top.

>>52778464
In the Clone wars, one of the funnest episodes was JarJar+Mace Windu teaming up to do investigations. Mace is the only character hypercompetent enough to make use of JarJar's plague levels of bad luck without being fucked over as well, using him as a failure grenade against antagonists

>>52775930
There were a lot of flaws with Harry Potter, but that prophecy was just so beautifully circular, mainly because cowboy was exactly the right brand of batshit insanity

>>52778464
>Implying Darth jar jar isn't snoke

>>52776975
>your oldest comrade who's been with you through thin and thick since the very beginning was the BBEG's plant all along
>but then they turn against the BBEG to save you in your darkest hour

>>52771979
>character has the sheer force of will to defy mind control, and dies rather than obey the BBEG

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=murjHooyak0

>>52781458
Are these guys supposed to be imitation protomen, or is it the other way around?

>>52781482
They take a different approach than the protomen. They're comparable, but I wouldn't say either is an imitation of the other.

The Protomen wrote their story about centered around the main characters' struggle and the flawed nature of Man, in the form of a rock opera.

The Megas instead took each individual Robot Master and explored their motivations in song form, giving them just as much attention as the main characters (for the most part).

>>52771979
>the bad guys all have british accents
>even when they aren't british
>or even from earth

>>52771979
>The BBEG is really a freedom fighter against a corrupt king who originally hired you.

>>52781482
If you put a gun to my head then I would say the other way around.

They both do their own thing and I like them both, but the Megas just go way more in depth. Plus, History Repeating.

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>>52771979
>enemies are forced to work together multiple times
>enemy turns into a tolerated acquaintance --> friend --> weird family member

I don't see this trope a whole lot these days but I've got a soft spot for it.

>>52781551
>Not british
>Not from earth
Pick one and only one

>>52781585
I agree. The Protomen are great, but The Megas have a way of pulling at your heartstrings.

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>>52781044
Is that you, Koji Kabuto?

>>52781616
I'm tired.

Are you implying something?

>>52781238
I love this. Like have them walk out of an inferno with burned clothes but not a scratch on him.

>>52781668
But he fought to avenge his grandpa, and almost squashed one of the villains into literal gore if it wasn't for the rest of the "heroes" interjecting trying to stop him.

Then the following chapters/episodes shows how the group was having trouble controlling Kabuto.

Then I dropped the manga/show because I stopped giving a shit about

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>>52781729
Depends on the version. IIRC, OG Anime Koji was a generic highschool protag who was given a giant robot to save the world. He didn't have any personal stake in the fight, he really could have just done nothing and continue living a normal life, but chose to fight because it is what he felt was the right thing to do.
I could be wrong on some points here, though. It's been a long ass time since I watched Mazinger Z.
If you were watching Shin Mazinger, I'd give it another shot. Shit gets real good in the latter episodes.

>Eldritch abomination is extremely petty and petulant with a personality and psychology of a human scumbag despite being older than time, with the incomparable knowledge of eons and great cosmic power, and is ultimately very cowardly and afraid of death

The downward spiral of a monster starting off terrorizing mere mortals out of sheer malice and sadism, slinging childish insults at the heroes, erupting in world-shaking anger when its arrogance leads it to minor (but heretofore unthinkable) losses, resolving to not underestimate mortals again only to fail once more as its pointless cruelty and need to repair its once-titanic ego leads to even greater defeats, until in its final hours when the heroes are barreling down on it, it desperately tries to bargain with them before it degenerates into begging for its life.

Huge boisterous warriors getting upstaged by small serene monks, better if it's young monks rather than old monks.

>>52781789
>Old monk martial arts masters are extremely arrogant and kill and maim with little provocation simply because they are that dangerous

Thank you Kill Bill.

>character personality traits are extreme, but among his/her people they are considered mellow

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>>52781805
That's kind of a staple of the Wuxia genre in general. Often the most dedicated to mastering their craft are those with nefarious intents.

>>52781700
But they're also very oblivous and have no idea why being able to catch blades with their bare hands is so unusual. You've seen how skinny they are, right? They're not that strong, honest...

>>52781679
>He doesn't know about the extraterrestrial colonies

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>>52775831
Somewhat related: that moment when you realize somebody who has previously been restrained is about to break bad.

>>52773704
>40k

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>>52773959
>I'm a sucker for gentle giant types who go postal only when absolutely necessary.
you and me both.

Relatedly I'm also fond of the giant/stronk bruiser is great with kids thing.

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>>52781785
This.

I have planned something like this for the end of my campaign. I have slowly introduced an ancient eldricht abomination with time themed powers and portfolio that was exiled frome its her dimension a long time ago and just wants to go home.
The only way it she can achieve such task is by opening a portal consuming the life force of thousands of individuals.

But in the end, its her family on the other side will simply say "no" and refuse to let it her in, leaving it her stripped of any power it she had collected.

In reality, she isn't an abomination at alla, just like her family: these "time elementals" are just an élite of time travelling wizards who were humanoid once, but got distorted by the time warp. They still retain a humanoid form and mentality, and aren't fundamentally evil. They're kind of a bunch of assholes, though.

>>52773912
Doesn't sound like that at all in the video.

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>Bad guys stricken with fear when the MC breaks character, throws his morals out the window and becomes a brutal killing machine

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>>52772924
>slaying the dragon with a gladius
>and an erection

>>52780160
Martin please go

>>52771979
The party running into and dealing with another party of very similar composition, may or may not be evil counterparts

>>52776676
You anon are my niggah! That fucking series

>>52774411
I love Mexican standoffs or Even better musketeer-tier (tear) fights between 3 unsullied combatants. The choreograph and imagery you can pull off with this is beautiful.

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>>52778483
>what are you going to do, 'hero?' Shoot me?
>*gunshots*

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>>52781238
I know that feel. Either as oblivious fools or cocky egotistical douchenozzles with glimmer of a golden heart

>>52773749
Why choose? Just rip a swirling magical asshole between worlds and enjoy the fruits of both enchantment and industry!

>>52773084
>The Langobard thinks he's a Roman descendant.
What a pleb!

>The Zhentarim are behind it.

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>when nobles in a political intrigue are at each others throats because they each legitimately believe they are doing the right thing for their people and not because they've got some stupid personal vendetta against each other/want more power.

>when villains fight between themselves
>when villain 1's special henchmen are in the midle of a fight with villain 2's henchmen and the main characters come in
I love bad guys fighting amoung themselves even better if normaly they have interesting powers in contrast to the heroes generic ones.

>Hero's Lover and Hero genuinely love each other, but find themselves in opposite sides of the conflict beyond reconciliation.

Bonus if:
>They fight, Hero is hesitant to strike but lover come at him hard without holding back. Hero is forced to fight back to survive and eventually begins fighting properly. Spots opening in lover's defense and strikes by instinct, inflicting a lethal wound. Lover smile, the gap was deliberate because they knew otherwise hero wouldn't had the strength to kill them. Hero has a fraction of a second to understand this before their lover disappears forever.

>>52773729
But you wouldn't die anyway. Magic jars, yo.

>>52777586
WE WUZ EMPERORS AND SHIET

>The heroes are the worst of the worst scumbags, and they know this.
>A BBEG's kid or lover or close friend comes back in ten years to try and kill the heroes.
>Spending thirty years just mastering the basics, to become unstoppable.
>Even though they know they shouldn't, the heroes get excited at seeing a world-destroying villain because the fight will be super cool.
>"You're [multiple of ten] years too early to defeat me!", and they are.
>Two people who had sworn to kill each other perform a mutual kill.
>'Healing' armors that don't actually heal you, they just keep you together until you can stop fighting.

>> 52777586
Think about it more like tanned skin and less like brownish skin. Also today mediterraneans have been stained by barbaric blood, every single italian has celtic or germanic ascendancy

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>Gentle giant
Bonus points if someone manages to find a hot gentle giant

>The hero and the love interest initially despise each other.

that's my crack

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>>52773084
>why are my ancestors always bad guys
Historical accuracy.

>>52781769
>grandpa was alive all along
the fuck, yeah I will continue watching some other time when I feel like it. I haven't deleted the anime from the hard drive yet because I know its "on my list"

Badass Normals. No powers, no enhancement, just good ol' badassery.

>>52773190
When did Khimari Ronso join the Protoss?

>>52773084

Because they were dicks, brilliant dicks that conquered and subjugated everyone but still dicks.

>>52785767
kek

>>52784092
It also means that you can be tanky and fast at the same time; no BS about being slowed down by bulky armor.
There's nothing quite like moving in the blink of an eye to catch an attack aimed at someone else.

>>52771979
>comic relief character is actually super strong/skilled/competent and saves everyone multiple times
>comic relief character is actually scared shitless of what he or she got into, but goes on for his/her friends' sake; making jokes and quipping is supposed to make him/her look more confident and support the team morale
>both of those at the same time

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>>52773749
>hero's adventure comes to an end and now they are forced to return to their shitty mundane lives of being a nobody in real life but its okay because they 'learned a valuable life lesson'

Not all the time.

>the big huge combat monster scary guy is scared of something silly like heights or water

>>52771979
>the code that shuts down the BBEG's super weapon, is the nursery rhyme he used to sing to his daughter
>bonus if he's a hardass and his daughter is a former villain now working for the hero.

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>>52787540
>Hero of the last arc becomes the Villain of the present arc because they couldn't return to a life of peace.

>hero is lost good natured guy from another world or time
>in his world/time he was just another face in a red shirt, unspecified and disposable
>here is the outworlder/old one, a living artifact of ludicrus importance
>pursues a man also from where he came from who ruined everything, for both justice and revenge
>kills him in one of three ways
>just full on beats the shit out of him offering no mercy until he's a smear on the ground
>just shoots him, maybe with a one liner
>breaks him with mear words, maybe leaving him a gun saying "you know what to do" the shot is heard as he walks off

>>52787540
>hero only started their adventure so they could return to their boring lives

>>52787644
>the BBEG is already dead, making this show of softness afterwards all the more sad

>badass older woman who can kill everybody in twelve different ways. She was a swordmaster in her prime
>she keeps low profile, running an inn, being a nun or leading her life as a regular noble woman
>but when the need calls she picks up the sword from the coffer

>in a room full of representatives of large organizations, there is one person who represents only themselves

>>52788120
Jack sparrow in the breathren, court

>>52788257
Jack still had a more or less loyal crew, which is more than can be said for Swann as Sao Feng's replacement.

>Faction is ruled by very powerful, very rich beings
>They don't actually know how to run an empire and their ego is too great to listen to advisors
>As a result, the faction is one of the weakest in the setting

Also
>Enemies are forced to work together
>By the end of their adventure they become allies

>Bad guys turning good

>Characters that oppose the party, but are so nice that the party still regards them as friends

>the prophesy is wrong

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>>52788120
>an alien race that only consists of three guys
>in no way weaker than other races

>>52780423
>Villains are defined by their motivation
kys

>Calm and powerful character gets the chance to go all out
>One of the few times we see them smile up until that point

>Hero put in some kinda "unwinnable game" type situation (forced to fight friend/lover, choose between saving a group of innocent people or saving friend/lover, ect.)
>Hero somehow subverts villains plans, finds a way to have his cake and eat it too.

>>52783399
>time wizards
>NOT eldritch abominations

>>52775498
Ohhhhh snap.

>>52781238
>just rewatched soul eater
my companion of dark skin

Warriors who treat combat like an art form.

Bonus points if they are extremely arrogant and vain, and use flashy tactics to take the art of war to its logical conclusion, but are skilled and beautiful in their bloodshed enough to be deserving of their narcissism.

>>52785835
Eh.

Historically, the Romans were just very rich people who flaked on Debts and paid other people to bash them on the head.

I mean, that's exactly how Rome fell.

>>52775559
Patches was the Main character of Dark Souls all along.

>>52789279
Crona not getting a bigger role or the ending he(?) deserved was an absolute travesty.

>>52789431
DS3 DLC spoilers:

The Ringed City DLC hints that Patches is not just a recurring gag character, but in fact some kind of vital plot element. "Every age, it seems, is tainted by the greed of men." suggests that he has lived far longer than previously thought, and maybe even remembers ALL previous ages. He also says, "A fine dark soul, to you." To me it sounds like he's somehow above the pursuit of the dark soul, as though he knows some secret about it.

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>>52789532
Crona was there so they could have an arc about the importance of mental health and how its ok to be shy and/or introverted. And to appeal to the whole "kinda-villain-turns-good" shit.

>>52789556
Patches confirmed for the furtive pygmy, squatting away while kingdoms crumble around him.

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Was Apollyon a good villain?

She was clever when it came to enacting her plans, but despite her strong rhetoric I still found her ideals of war being the natural state of things to be bullshit.

None of the other characters even agreed with her

>>52789597
That would explain his passionate hatred for the clerics...

>>52789643
It's a philosophy that exists in real life as well. See Patton.

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>>52789643
Can't be a good villain if the rest of the story is garbage.

>>52789593
At least they hit the bullseye with that. Crona's trauma fucked him up as a person, and they showed it beautifully.

>>52789717
No argument there. (S)he's a well-written, good character, but I'm not surprised (s)he's not in the main focus.

Also (s)he's more prominent in the manga.

>>52789597
Patches is a Tom Bombadil type character confirmed.

>Immense and possible world dominating power
>Spends life kicking greedy faggots off cliffs and squats everywhere

>>52789684
just because Patton Oswald killed his wife doesnt mean he's a warmonger, anon

>>52788481
>The prophecy is correct
>But it was already started before you tried to stop it

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>>52789775
>The prophecy is correct
>...Sorry, was. The prophecy *was* true. It happened a long time ago, except that no one noticed.

>>52789532
Imagine him versus the Keshian. (I probably spelled that wrong. I can't spell anything from this show.)
>I'M FUCKING TERRIFIED BUT I CAN STILL GET SHIT DONE
Also, what the fuck was the point of Macha being a weapon, other than to make the fight last a little longer? I do like the ending, though.
>Bitch, I talked a Keshian to death. What have you ever done?
>>52789756
Maybe I should read the manga. If you're a normal person, does it take about as long to read as it does to watch the anime?

>you and bad guy become best mates

>>52777251
my fellow gentleman

>>52790073
>main villain asks that the hero be his child's godparent

>>52789894
>Maybe I should read the manga.
Eh, it's an okay manga. It obviously doesn't have the funky and quirky music of the anime which tbqh was a big part in making Soul Eater that good. But don't waste your Dogecoins or whatever-the-fuck-currency on it, reading it online is good enough.
>If you're a normal person, does it take about as long to read as it does to watch the anime?
Hard to say. Maybe, probably? There are 25 volumes. Assuming you start reading from the point where Kishin was revived (vol 7), you'll have 19 volumes to read. If it takes you 1.5 hours to read a volume, you'll finish the manga in 28.5 hours. Approx.

>>52771979
>The episode revolves around the main character having to desperately use the restroom, only for each attempt to be blocked in a humorous fashion and potentially ending in potty failure.

>>52789556
Here's my headcanon on the DLC

Patches basically broke the code to what it means to be human. The entire series has been about people fighting against the inevitable and ultimately being unsuccessful. You can link the fire and choose for the next age to be Fire or Dark, but that age will is ultimately temporary; you can hold on to Humanity and purpose to avoid becoming crestfallen, but its only a matter of time before you eventually become Hollow. Some people tried to embrace this inevitable, but that didn't work either. The abyss left them very different from the original, hollow form of mankind, and they too would inevitably also be wiped away (see: Oolacile, Pus of Man, etc).

Patches, however, realized that fighting the inevitable and embracing the inevitable were both equally wrong: both went counter to the fate of the universe, either delaying or speeding its arrival. The truth is, to be Human and Born From the Dark is to go with the flow. It's to be "devoid of worldly wants." It's to let things be naturally, neither fighting against it nor speeding it up, until Fire and Chaos and the Abyss all fade away.
That last bit's important. Remember, the Pygmy found the Dark Soul in the First Flame, and the natural state of humanity is just as devoid of the Abyss as it is of Fire.

Patches never became a mindless hollow and never lost hope, because he never had any hope to lose. He was right, after all. Every age that ever was ended up being temporary, further proving his point. He lives as a perfect, original human right up until the end of the world, where he (presumably) faded away with everything else.

>>52789556

I should probably ask on different board, but are the two DLCs worth getting? Has the meta changed from 40/40 Straight Swords since?

>>52790792
Personally yeah. Ringed City is amazing.

The PvP Meta now is Ultragreatswords but really most weapons are viable in PvE

>>52790824

UGS? How'd that happen? Does tat mean that 40/40 got bumped off by strength builds?

>>52790792
>but are the two DLCs worth getting?
Yes, though the first one is poor quality money-grab that taught me never to buy a Season Pass again. The second is pretty fucking neat.
>Has the meta changed from 40/40 Straight Swords since?
Now the meta is 40/40 straight swords, greatswords, and curved greatswords! Diversity, see!

The 2nd DLC made Faith a helluva lot more viable, so there's that.

>>52790854
The UGS in the DLC is just a noob stomper in 1v1, but it's a terrifying to face in ganks. The worst part is that it's a quality weapon and not a Str weapon.

You should take this discussion to /dsg/.

>>52790921
The only reason to get the first one is to understand what's happening in the second and the Friede fight desu.

>>52789402
You misspelled "Americans">>52789431

>>52771979
>Post your favorite trope.

Everyone is futa

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>>52771979
Asshole masters who no one can really argue with because they're both unspeakably powerful and also because they really did earn the right to be a dick to just about everyone.

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>>52771979
>Group of nobodies, weirdos, and outcasts are forced to work together
>Share run-down or otherwise unremarkable vessel
>End up becoming tighter than family and will move heaven and hell if a crewmate is in trouble

Firefly may not have birthed this trope love, but it sure as hell gave it a laser focus

>>52773645
That from the recent Hall of Fame inductment?

>>52791263
>Asshole masters have to gather to defeat some evil thing but no one can agree on anything so everyone just leaves in a huff

>>52790792
Yes, definitely go for it. They're a hundred times better than the original game.

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>>52792400
Coincidentally, it turning out that all the old masters the players have met over their travels know each other is another trope I like.

>>52790921
Is magic still worse than bare fists?

>>52771979
Tvtropes cucks pls go

>>52792615
Sorcery is still "pew pew, I hope you forgot how to press the dodge button".

Miracles are now the top meta, with the introduction of Lightning Arrow and Projected Heal.

Pyromancies are... well the same as sorceries unless you play your pyromancer like a melee but with a heal spell. (Hey, we're in /tg/ so you'll understand if I say "gish", right?)

"Hexes" (aka Dark Sorceries) are still a far cry from the DS1 and 2 days. Not worth it.

>>52776143
...wait didn't she have a kid from Lear and get shunned by the rest of the unicorns because of it?

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>>52775148
>>BBEG has THAT ONE general who is more competent, more talented, and more powerful than them, but will not betray anyway

Undying loyalty for the BBEG is indeed one of the best tropes.

>capable and strong central hero.
>Still has moments where his friends save him.

>>52792820
>>52790303
Right?!

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>>52792820
>>52775148
>PCs defeat the last general
>BBEG ask defeated general to kill himself with a last suicide attack (or base destroying) and take everyone with them
>The general tries to do it with a smile in their face

>The villain is the real good guy

>>52783203

That's not how that works. You have LITERALLY bought into fake propaganda. Good job.

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>The BBEG is the fated savior, but their methods have made them many enemies
>One of the PCs is the fated destroyer, but rose up against their fate
>In the finale, they team up against the Bigger Bad

>>52777251
Bonus points if the partner goes on adventures.

The hero is so obsessed with bearing his enemy he becomes an even worse villain

>"I told them to stop the ancient evil and they actually did it, the absolute madmen"

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>>52792716
Damn. Thanks Miyasucky.

>>52771979
Just as everything is about to be resolved, someone steals the ring of Ming the Merciless or similar cliffhanger. The funny thing is this is often spurred by a player!

>>52780423
This is, and will remain, the shittiest image. Great villains aren't the result of someone going "Surprise! You were the bad guy the whole time, and the villain was the good guy!" Great villains are the result of being great characters, in whatever way that is accomplished.

>party's main method of communication is mercilessly bullying eachother
>this immediately extends to anyone they come in contact, including literally bantering royalty and divinity

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>>52772924
>>52772946
>>52773070
>>52773084
>>52775342
>>52776595
>>52783871
>Rome
>Evil
Caesar did nothing wrong

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>>52771979
The Cavalry shows up in time to sway the battle

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>the character who always has closed eyes opens them

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>ally shows up right when the hero is about get defeated/overrun
>"You go ahead, I'll handle things here"
>they sacrifice their lives in the process

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>>52794590
>ywn have a true friend "handle things here" while you save the day

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>>52772924
>>52773084

>>52773220
I always liked that one samurai jack episode with spartans that actually looked greek.

>the current villain is on the ropes
>suddenly the previous villain pops out of fucking nowhere to save them

Bonus points if neither side has any idea what the fuck is going on

>Everyone you helped throughout your adventure shows up to help in the final confrontation

>>52795900
>shonen anime in a nutshell

>>52795900
>They all get mercilessly mowed down by the BBEG.
But they bought enough time.

>>52771979
>medusa standing on her tippy-toes
How to tell a shitty artist 101

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>The villain did nothing wrong
PUT YOURSELF IN HIS POSITION
>Fuck the french

>>52780423
>tiers
Eat garbage.

>>52776065
Heidegger's Protagonist

>>52781892
Is that the evil master from Kung Fu Hustle?

>>52796799
By letting the king die, selling citizens into slavery, and hunting down the only people who can stop the world-ending event? Screw that idiot bastard.

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>BBEGs are a power couple
Bonus if the relationship is super cute.

>The mindless enemy you've been fighting this entire time was actually completely sentient, you just had no possible means of understanding them
>The party finds out the other side had motivations that were actually decent motivations, too
>But at the same time, your group and their group had goals that diametrically oppose each other, and the conflict was unavoidable if anyone wanted to reach their goals

The original Nier had that shit down to a T.

>>52773369

Now that's what I call a hot-blooded latin!

>>52774821
Explain

>>52797927

Four White Mages. Compare what happened in that page to panel two of this one.

http://www.nuklearpower.com/2001/03/20/episode-007-kamehameha-or-something/

>>52774411
>>52774444
>>52774499

I love the
>anons waste killer digits
trope

>>52798040
Nine fucking years?

I'm not sure if I'm impressed or disgusted.

>>52798222
>>>/v/

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>>52777637

>>52798040
God damnit

>>52798352
It was the only thing that feel like old warcraft to me
Nazgrim was a true orc

I love it when the party meet a bunch of old people throughout the world (PC's parents, mentor, old village blacksmith, the king)and slowly peice together that they all used to be a party of heroes just like them back in their, even sharing the same party roles and dynamics

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>>52781599

>>52798310
>no fun allowed
>>>/tg/

>>52794369
Catiline was also a good guy, I swear

>>52794590
>"Don't worry, I'll handle this."
>"But your leg!"
>"Don't worry, that healer back in town gave it a look over, apparently it was a super easy fix, you go take out the big guy and we'll have a drink when you get back."
>The leg was never properly fixed, it was just a temporary thing.

>>52793483
Fuck off you literal autist. If you want drama and political discussion go stick a grapefruit up your asshole you fucking nigger.

>>52795230
>While you have been out adventuring, the level 1 bandit king has been practicing his sales pitch.
>Soon he will rally your own enemies against you.

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>>52777586
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

*inhales*

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>52785039
That would burn my ass way too much.

>>52787748
>Hero of the last arc becomes the Villain of the present arc because they finally realised how corrupt are those who sent him to oppose the villain
Instant boner.