Age of Sigmar General /aosg/

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>>52751850
This is a Fyreslayer thread now.

Skyven what?

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No Place for fucked up slayers here

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>>52752044
No, this is certainly the right place, Thaggoraki.

What is the better ranged unit for Stormcast?

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>>52752313
Jezzails.

Does anyone have a TGA account that they can download the latest update and post it here?

http://www.tga.community/files/file/19-hinterlands-skirmish-campaigns-in-the-mortal-realms-by-sam-james/

I refuse to get into TGA until they fix the facebook sign-in issue.

>>52752313
Any. They are SAMECAST eternals so you can just say they have bows and your opponent will be like "ok whatever" and just assume you are right from table distance.

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Don't get cocky beardthings, Skaven will own-dominate the sky too!

>>52752313
Judicators suck

Hurricanes are meh

Longstrikes are okay, but if you run Aetherstrike theyre god tier

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why is AoS so much more attractive for girls ?
Is it because GW finally understood how to cut all the grognards out of WHFB ?
How come the number of girl playing in the biggest french FLGS went from 2 a months to every game night ?

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>>52752500
idk

>>52752500
They're probably just trying to escape the Muslim rape gangs.

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>>52752522
we had that just as much mudslims rapegang when Whfb was """""""Selling""""""" tho

>>52752408
Not bloody likely, rat!

Yours are literally held together with shit.

>>52752362
You called them SAMECAST? OMG hilarious!

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>>52752557
The Skaven will have all your aethergold.

>>52752500
'Nerd' hobbies just became more mainstream and it's the new game. It's not about the game itself.

>>52752500
More girls like fantasy than sci-fi I would say.

>>52752586
This is actually dope.
I really want skyven.

>>52752512
Whats wrong with those hands?

>>52752500
Easier to pick up & play and a focus on big centrepiece models that look good on shelves would be my guess.

My gf absolutely loves the Maw-krusha for example which is why I've bought it for her for her birthday

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>>52752642
oh shit

Is nagash cost justified? At 900pts I don't see him as a rape machine that it should be not I have seen it used by anyone in my local gw (I must say that people play order allday erryday with some other dude playing FEC/death too).
Someone uses it regularly or have some story that would justify including him in a 2000pts game?

>>52752722
Not worth it, keep him for open or narrative play, if you do those.

>>52752722
The existence of reinforcement points fucks with the entire point of him.

However, his 50% chance of outright killing pretty much anything is pretty hilarious.

>>52752722
Now that we pay for summon, he will probably drop to 300 points. unless his ability to double the summon effectively gives you FREE models

>>52752743
>The existence of reinforcement points fucks with the entire point of him.

That's true for all of Death though.

>>52752500
Why do women always play
>40k
>Nids

>AoS
>Sylvaneth
>Seraphon

without fail? the colors?

>>52752500
More creative armies and huge emphasis on customisation. It's well known that girls are far more into the hobby aspects than they're into gameplay, if they do play the game at all.

>>52752576
Samecast
Snorecast
Borecast
Lamecast

Take your pick

>>52752821
I think buff stacking on hordes of high bravery infantry and access to tough, fast units that spit out mortal wounds is a decent identity for them.

>>52752885
Tomb Kings are the go-to girl army in AoS

>>52752885
>Cute animals
>Nature

You'll be hard pressed to find a woman who doesn't like one or the other.

>>52752915
LOLZ I POSTED IT AGAIN MOM

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>>52752951
LOL I REPLIED TO IT AGAIN MOM

>Instead of refuting the sameness of samecast eternals, ill just say random shit because I cant defend them

>>52752987
They're a fucking standing army with a uniform, of course they're going to look similar, what the fuck is wrong with you?

>>52752885
I don't know why they'd play Tyranids, but I assume that they play Sylvaneth because it has trees, flowers and nature stuff? Also Seraphon are colorful and skinks are CUTE.

>>52753024
They think nids look cute.

Which they do.

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>>52753002
>Here we see a horde of crazed bloodmen, spikey guys in heavy armor and deamons versus AN ARMY OF THE SAME GUY

>>52753024
You can build a viable all-girl army with Sylvaneth

>>52753047
Are you actually retarded?

>>52753047
Please don't google Space Marines, they'll give you a seizure

>>52752646
>My gf absolutely loves the Maw-krusha for example
My wife too.
I can even tell you why: it's fucking cute.

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>>52753043
Skinks>Nids

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>>52752642

>>52753094
Speaking of...

OI! GROIN-KIKKA! I KNOW YER LURKIN' IN THIS THREAD!

How did you do the skin on your Maw-krusha again? I know it was simple, but it looked great.

>>52752642
>>52752696
>>52753282

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>>52752642
Why did you point it out? we were supposed to be the female friendly ones

>>52753057
>>52753024

Fuck I just got Start Collecting Sylvaneth to get into this game, taking a break from 40k.
I'm a burly man, I didn't sign up for no flower army? I just wanted some cool tree people like in Guild Wars 2.
Am I damned to eternal regret?

>>52753546
And it was either that or Beast Claw Raiders but their low model count kinda scared me away.

>>52753546
You can always play the edgy ones if you like

>>52753575
Edgy ones?

>>52753605
Yeah, there's a subset of them that absolutely hates anything non sylvaneth and wants to kill them. Full Athel Loren autism trees.

>>52753546

You're fine in that anyone who goes with a living faction is a faggit

>>52752642
Umm, nothing?

>>52753546
We're just saying how they're viewed through a lot of women's eyes - it's all subjective mam.

Unless you have a nagging doubt that you did sign up for a flower army all along?

>>52753546

Can't say I've ever seen any flowery Sylvaneth. Paint them how you want, the army isn't exactly associated with being feminine or anything. Even if it was who gives a fuck, as a burly man your choice shouldn't be affected by plebs. They look cool to you, that's all that matters. Nature scary yo

>>52753693

I don't know, I guess I kinda have buyer's remorse, but I could return them since I got it on Amazon

And I like Beastclaw Raiders as well but the low model count makes me nervous in-game and irl because of their price, as well as the fact that they're Destruction and I don't really have an interest in any of the other Destruction factions.

I guess I'm just venting and I'll decide when the Start Collecting Box I ordered gets here.

>>52753764
Nah, Kurnoth Hunters and Freemen look fucking dope, I hope you enjoy your army man.

Make sure you have something decent to carry them around with/be careful, as dryads can be spindly as fuck (speaking as a former wood elf player). I know buyer's remorse well, but I fall prey more to second-army syndrome - I don't even have half my Death army and I want to start Tzeemtch Disciples.

>>52753891
Treemen*, my tablet can suck a dick.

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Does anyone knows what this box is actually worth? Found it eBay, 10 Bucks actually but without Buy now Button

>>52753891
Second Army Syndrome is a bitch, I have ~1500 of AdMech for 40k and daydream about other forces I wanna start, despite not being done with my current one.
I'm gonna make a pros and cons list of Sylvaneth vs. Beastclaws and think about it for a good few days.
Are the Beastclaw rules in the Mega? I didn't see them at first and I already have the Sylvaneth book downloaded.

>>52753991
Just checked, it is indeed there.
If you're thinking competitive, they're both good, many consider Sylvaneth to be top 3 in terms of power. Also, from what I've heard the Stonehorn is utterly filthy.

>>52753928
Don't know, but certainly worth more than $10. Providing it's not just a box.

>>52754149
I found it, I went to the wrong one that only had some of the battletomes for whatever reason. I'm not super competitive in my playstyle, I just want a good looking army that I can have fun with

do we already have the rules for the new skydwarfs somewere? :)

>>52754152
Its complete, with buildings and all But i cant find the Original price of GW

>>52754152
Its complete, with buildings and all But i cant find the Original price of GW. Dont want to Spent to Many Money on this.. maybe 50 ?

>>52752821

Death, or at least certain units in it, could be more about bringing back models in an existing unit that have died rather than summoning completely new ones.

Though to be fair this could just be me really disliking the idea of summoning with absolutely no limits.

>>52754386

I wouldn't be surprised if it was originally more than $50.

>>52753928
by the time the auction ends the price will be over $200.

>>52754431
Flesh Eater Court is already designed to do that. Courtiers can bring back an average of two horrors each per turn and/or 5 ghouls each. Then there's a formation for +d6 ghouls per unit every turn.

>>52754217
Let us know what you think!

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I played the New Khorne stuff versus Sylvaneth the other day and got destroyed with no hope.

I foolishly took a Soul grinder which i now see to be total shit for it's points, but even things like Crushers and DPs seemed lacking versus Khurnoth units. Are Sylv's just broken or is Khorne a lost cause already

I wonder is it possible to have a good list focusing on daemons but without a Bloodthirster? probably not but i don't like the model is the thing.

Finally, thoughts on blood tithe?most of the stuff seems useless and you're pretty much playing without an alligience ability for the most of the game but has anyone had success?

>>52754966

Sylv, Kurnoths especially, are REALLY powerful.

>>52752313

Bow judicators are viable MSU battleline tax, mix and match with liberator speed bumps to support your actual heavy hitters.

Longstrike raptors are good artillery equivalents and one unit in any list will never hurt nor fail to pull its own weight

Dracothian guard are surprisingly shooty at short range and a lot of their damage can come from it.

Crossbow judicators suck, rapid fire crossbow raptors aren't all that great.

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Grots update when?

>>52754991
They seemed way too good .

Reroll every save, all those wounds the scythe weapons, and the fact that even the Archer version just laughed as flesh hounds swung at them for 3 turns uselessly.

I also didn't know that entering the woods just kills guys on a 1. I'm guessing Khorne has no chance versus something like that

How can I fluff Epidemius in my Nurgle host?

I've got story for my dudes, but it feels weird having a named character in with them

>>52755109
gl playing any aggressive no-battletome army against stormcast or sylvaneth. its unplayable

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>>52755316
Yeah i believe it, hopefully they get nerfed to hell in the GHB2. That book can't come out any sooner and maybe salvage this game

>tfw you fell for the 'Aos doesn't have power creep' meme

GW can eat shit though they didn't get a penny

>>52754966
Bloodletters are good and generate mass mortal wounds, especially with +1 attack. Khorne Daemon Princes are good in place of Blood Thirsters.

>>52755391
>powercreep
>blades of khorne and kharadron are shit

sure thing, bud

>>52755316
tomb kings and bretonnians do just fine against sylvaneth

>>52755752
are either a very aggresive army without shooting?

>>52755768
>are tomb kings an aggressive melee army?

you really dont know much about this game

>>52755688
>blades of khorne and kharadron are shit

No shit, That's the problem retard

spin the dice power creep is the worst kind, some releases are shit, others randomly dominate

if it was consistent that would be something

>>52755768
Is Sylvaneth shooting a problem? Hunters average 4 damage for 180 points before armor save.

>>52755812
It's not power creep if newer releases are not consistently more powerful than previous releases.
It's simply poorly balanced.

>>52755133
Do what I do, use the named character rules but give him a different name and backstory. This is the only way I can use named characters without having a lore autism fit.

>>52755812
>Spin the dice power creep

So... Not Power Creep?

>>52755839
the shooting itself isnt a problem its the fact that they can teleport around the map while limiting your opponents movement harshly, have some of the best heroes and can give their battleline 2+ saves. while theyve got artillerry range shooting ogres behind all of this

>>52755912
>have some of the best heroes
u wot m8

drycha sucks

branchwych is a generic wizard

branchwraith sucks

treelord ancient is a defensive wizard

durthu is a big slow target

alarielle is a bigger target

sylvaneth heroes are ass, the entire faction is carried by kurnoths and trees

Sylvaneth are mid tier at best

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Why is GW taking so long on making updated BATTLETOMES for all its old factions reeeeeeee

>>52755812
You won the autist award

>>52755854
Maybe Epidemius could be a rank; just the name given to all his Tallymen

Does that sound dogshit?

>>52756055
because of a shit p2win game named 40k where the average height of a model is now 30cm action figures

>>52756076
It's a little lazy, could work if you called him something like 'Epidemius Pustulyn, 77th Tallyman of Nurgle' I suppose. I just prefer using the rules for whatever custom character I've converted or written backstory for.

>>52755854

This is what GW themselves even said to do at least once, in the 5th Edition Dark Eldar codex.

>>52756055

I have to wonder if after Kharadrons they'll shit one or two out since there are a handful of factions for whom all they'd need to do is rebox.

Of course it's just as likely that they'll redo Ironjawz, Seraphon, FEC, Pestilens, Everchosen, or Fyreslayers since they wouldn't even need any reboxing.

>>52753716
>>Nature scary yo
You could theme your Sylvaneth after Australia, where everything nature actively trying to kill you. That's intimidating right there.

>>52756074
>u hav autism lel XDD

Kys faggot

>>52755812
Oh my god, this is the most stupid thing written since the advent of writing.

>>52756165
How to use GW bits to make dropbears to hide up in larger Sylvaneth models?

>>52756139
It's annoying as hell because there are so many factions that have aged well and just need a rebox and the FEC treatment which I assume is extremely resource light in terms of what they have to do

>>52752642
Heroic scale.

>>52756283
It could be that their manpower was been shifted to focus on GHB2 and 40k's 8th edition releases.

>>52756457
That sounds reasonable. I can only hope that once both of those come to pass we actually start getting updates for these older models

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Lore Question, do Dwarfs (all varieties) still speak Khazalid? They're referred to in the text as Duardin (so GW can have a copyrighted term for them) but for what reason does everyone refer to them as Duardin instead of Dwarfs in the setting? Is that what they now refer to themselves as, rather than Dawi? And if so, why are there still references to their language in the form of the various titles (Barak presumably being a bastardization of Barag and Zharrgrim priesthood = Firegrim Priesthood)? Is this addressed in any battletome or does GW just not put that much thought into it and my autism is just flaring up?

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>>52753310
>>52753687

>>52755812
>never go full retard

>>52756621
Lore-wise? Probably, with some slight changes over time (also barak isn't new, look at barak varr). There are some slight Khazalid mentions in the Fyreslayers novel and BT, and the Kharadron bits so far, though with some new words/changes.

In reality? Gw probably just makes it all up as they go along, logic and internal consistency be damned.

>>52756621

>do Dwarfs (all varieties) still speak Khazalid? They're referred to in the text as Duardin (so GW can have a copyrighted term for them) but for what reason does everyone refer to them as Duardin instead of Dwarfs in the setting? Is that what they now refer to themselves as, rather than Dawi?

I would assume that the dwarven language is largely the same except that the setting refers to them as duardin. There is a lot of evidence to suggest that their language has mostly stayed the same though.

> Is this addressed in any battletome or does GW just not put that much thought into it and my autism is just flaring up?

The easy answer is that Khazalid has transformed over the centuries. It's even entirely possible that certain isolated lodges, karaks, and baraks have a language completely unique to them. Ultimately, like with most unexplained things in AoS, the explanation is simply that they go with whatever is convenient for GW's writing team.
>Barak presumably being a bastardization of Barag

Barak actually means 'port' or literally 'gate', an example from the old world was Barak Varr, or 'Gate to the Sea', the predominant dwarven port at the time. It makes sense that the Kharadron skyports use the same word.

>>52756457

Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of time went into 8th Edition, especially if it's a major shakeup. Death Guard is also going to be getting a few kits and probably an accompanying book or two.

>>52756621

I don't think it has been stated why Dawi isn't used, though it could just be that only Dispossessed use it since Fyreslayers and Kharadron are basically different cultures.

GW themselves probably chose duardin over dawi because the way they pronounce the first syllable in the former makes it sound closer to dwarf. Could also have something to do with the Norse word for dwarf.

>>52756780
They are fine, just heroic scale.

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>>52757000

>>52752885
I had two small matches with my Gf last week to show her the ropes afterwards she got more interested in the game and we checked out the different factions.
I was really surprised she liked Fyreslayers the most. Got her a box of Vulkites for 28€ of Ebay to assemble and paint

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>>52756938
>>52756936
>>52756979
Thanks my dudes
>logic and internal consistency be damned.
I do wish GW was a bit better about that though, considering it's the likeliest reason.

>>52753296
Groin Kikka report in' in!

Deathworld Forest base
Heavy drybrush of Loren Forest
Light drybrush of Skarsnick Green
All over wash of 50/50 Bieltan Green/Lahmian Medium

Jobs a good'un!

>>52757123
>Cucked by manlets

Why are Ironjawz so broken vs. Skaven?

>>52756621

Seeing as their runes are the same, I think they still speak some kind of khazalid

It's my intuition that duardin means dispossessed and that when speaking of their kind as a biological race they'll still say dawii.

>>52757151
Oi! Groin-Kikka, you's da orkiest udda bosses in dis 'ere thread! You's a real inspoirashun, boss!

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So, are we aware that the normal skeletons for deathrattle are now apparently OoP? Are they being replaced by anything or will deathrattle only have black knights for battleline now?

>>52757616
Hopefully they'll bring back TK skellies

>>52757616
It may also mean nothing. The Wanderer Nomad Prince was listed as No Longer Available, and was even removed from the store for a while, but was brought back after a couple of weeks.

>>52757472
they arent just broken against skaven

>>52757827
I only play against my buddy who plays Skaven and I've tabled them every single game. Even when I make enormous mistakes, I table him.

>>52757758

I'm not super burned about it, since I use TK minis as Deathrattle minis, because I like the Egypt theme way more than the overdone gothic skeleton theme. I only noticed it because I happened to be fucking around on the GW site. Maybe it's nothing. It might also be a sign of some new Death stuff dropping soonish other than the new Shadespire dudes.

>>52757850
pretty sure they'll do what they did with the stormcast and the crypt ghouls. double the amount of skeletons for a 50% price increase

>>52757123
>naked muscle men
uhhh...

>>52757868
That'd be a sweet deal. Twenty dudes for $35 or $40 would be unusually generous for GeeDubs.

>>52757916
>manlets
But then, she's dating Anon... so it kind of figures.

Who are the magic heavy factions?

>>52758019
I'd assume Tzeentch

>>52758035

Oh yeah.

Any other factions?

>>52758051
Seraphons

>>52757495
Tanks, ya git! Now git back in da fight!

Good starter army for Disciples of Tzeentch? I dont trust 1d4chan for shit, and I'm not getting better results from google.

>>52753928
I found a 2 page spread for it in WD330 pg4-5. I'll post a picture later but basically it came out on 6th june 2007 for 250AUD / 275NZ

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>>52757000
We'll put anon

>>52757616
I assume some rebasing.

>>52758094
>seraphon
>magic heavy
LOL

>>52758354
Get a Witchfire Coven maybe? That's 500 points all together, you have a bit more to work as well

>>52756780
Which one do you prefer? Left or right?

>>52754966
Bring the Skull Cannons.

>>52757616
They do this when they are rebasing because of Warehouse registration numbers.

>>52758738
what left or right hands?

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How good are these? Anyone had tome to dive in and theory craft with the new overlord line? I have been swamped at the office and am wondering what is peoples impression so far?

>>52759049
Decent, good guns but like everything of the Overlords can be ground down by melee.

Hey guys I have a question, when I use a batallion that requires me to take three units of X, are these three separate units that I can add models to, or can I field these three units as one larger unit?

>>52757938
She is going to paint them all as black dwarves.

>>52759533
seriously?

its 3 different units, how is that not obvious

>>52759049
the book isnt out yet, hard to tell without knowing everything

>>52759574
Okay, but can I add the the units or do they all have to be minimum size?

>>52759624
They can be any allowable size

>>52758094
You clearly dont really play the game that much.

>>52757616
At this stage guessing is a waste of time, the store just does that sometimes with random shit for no reason. You can guess and try to analyse little movements GW does but the reality is that GW does things out of the blue all the time.

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leaked picks of the new Aelves

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>>52757616
Not on the Australian site.

>>52759766
That is actually a really cool lego set. My daughter has it. It's very well designed.

Really want to get into either this or 40k with my two best friends, what would you guys say is better balanced and easier on noobs? I would probably be making a Nurgle Daemon army.

>>52760082
AoS rules fit on to 4 pages, make of that what you will.
At least if you pick Daemons you're covered for both games

>>52760109
I mean more than likely we'll be sitting around drunk playing this on a saturday so maybe 4 pages of rules is a good thing. Is there a kill team style mini army game for AoS?

Any good sources for tomb king recast, or will I have to stick with Z and his cancer resin

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>>52760182
Yes. It works pretty well.

>>52759766
Oh cool, Sky Grots too.

You know, Lego could make a pretty popular tabletop wargame with all the sets they've made.

>>52760591
You've never heard of brickwars? You have to be over 18 to post here.

>>52760725
I said Lego, not some fans. If the actual company made and supported their own system then they could perhaps challenge GW's monopoly.

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>>52751850
if i have 1k points worth of models, but not enough battleline troops, does that mean I simply cannot field a Matched Play army, or i can but forfeit bonuses? and if so, which bonuses?

So I saw some guys at my FLGS playing and I'm interested. I have the following models which I use as allies to my CSM in 40k but I haven't played a game of AoS so I don't know what to build out. Played around with scrollbuilder but still not sure what to put down. I have the following models and just need some ideas on a decent build:

Lord of Change
2 Daemon Princes
5 Heralds
47 Pink Horrors
6 Flamers
6 Screamers
2 Exalted Flamer Chariots

What is decent out of this????

>>52752360
Anyone?

>>52760850
you can just view the individual pages at full resolution and save them, if you want to print the book

fuck the mortal wounds nerf
i run a killteam of rats
whats the point of overcharging all my warpstone shit now

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>>52751850
So my first ever Tournament is coming up, and I cant wait! I've put together my army, and I want some feed back.


Im debating on tossing either the Coven Throne or the Vargheists, in favor of more skellies, or a Necromancer, although Kemmler fills the roles pretty well.

The reason for making Heimrich Kemmler my General is because his Look Out Sir! Rule practically makes him immortal when surrounded by skellies.

Thoughts?

>>52759049
Main gun options are both 4+ hit. 2+ or 3+ to wound, -2 rend, multiplies into d3/d6 damage.
5+ save which is bullshit, should be 3+ (fucking treemen)
14 wounds which will mean it lasts maybe two turns thanks to that 5+ save
can regen a wound per turn on a 4+
transport capacity of 10-15; models over 10 reduce movement, embarked units cannot shoot, couple units and characters have abilities that can affect frigates and ironclads when embarked

overall kind of disappointing imo.

>>52761272
>whats the point of overcharging all my warpstone shit now
So you have a 2 in 3 chance of dealing a full 3 mortal wounds now?

>>52761479
it's halving my potential damage while my risk of self-damage remains the same

>>52761515
6 wounds is much better cap, 60 pts buys quite a few models

>>52760815
>if i have 1k points worth of models, but not enough battleline troops, does that mean I simply cannot field a Matched Play army
Correct. It would be an illegal list.

>>52760840
>What is decent out of this????
All of it.

>>52760840
They are all usefull

Guys, I really want the Ironjawz Thunderfist Battalion, but it's not offered in American anymore. I regret not buying it when I had the chance. Is there anything I can do without having to pay out my ass for it?

>>52759766
>Gonna being cunt as usual

>>52762023
Why do you want it... it's the lowest model count 'discount' box.
The formation is garbage.

since they dont have costs, you cant use the start collecting box battallions in matched play, right?

>>52757472
Are you the same guy crying for advance every. Other. Thread?
Skaven have all the tools to rape Ironjawz. Whether or not your cheap ass is willing to BUY and PAINT them is a different story.

Is there any reason to take Pistoliers over Outrider? They are better in CC, but due to the retarded Desperado rule they seem absolute shit as flanking units, point capping or artillery hunters.

>>52762260
The fuck? Looking into getting into this too and this shit is confusing.

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Do you think the fishmen from the old world made it into the mortal realms?

>>52760237

Z is pretty much is from what I've seen. What's wrong with his resin?

>>52762535
Pistoliers fill a different role to Outriders.
They're not supposed to be flanking units, point cappers or artillery hunters, they're supposed to be a one-off suicide charge.

>>52762314
What does that even mean?

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>>52763428
>What does that even mean?
it means playing Skaven without pic related is like playing Sylvaneth without Kurnoth Hunters

>>52759072
>>52759612
>>52761312
interesting. I am looking forward to some battle reports with these guys.

>>52759766
you're an idiot

>>52763463
>>52762314
>Whether or not your cheap ass is willing to BUY and PAINT them is a different story.

Well they're really expensive so how's a filthy casual supposed to build an army around them?

What's so bad about painting them?

>>52761278
As with most of these things, it would help to know what you have available.

Since you mentioned it, I'm going to assume that you have more skeletons in your closet. I'd bring them out. Basic skeletons improve so much when they're taken in big units, and they're one of the few cheap units that get access to 2" weaponry.

On the other hand, the Coven Throne and Vargheists are 2/3rds of your fast units. Replace them with Skeletons and you're risking not being able to go for objectives. A Necrosphinx is still just one model, after all.

I guess it's up to you. Maximise the home field advantage by bringing more Skeletons or ensure that you can reach the enemy board quickly by keeping things as is.

>>52762254
Maybe the lowest model count, but the weakest model has like 5 wounds. And ithe was really cheap compared to buying them straight up. A good start to a fun casual orruk army. The models are beautiful.

>>52763524
>Well they're really expensive so how's a filthy casual supposed to build an army around them?

no one ever said it was a cheap hobby

>>52763814
it os one of the cheapest hobby tho. just get a job. Even collecting Lego UCS (and no basic set) is more expensive on an annual basis.
MtG, heartstone, electric Guitar, fishing, medieval martial arts, even fucking stamp collecting is more expensive.

>>52764189
I agree. As an adult, with a job, its so inexpensive as to not even be a serious consideration on my overall finances. But cost is relative and not everyone is well off in that respect.

>>52763044
He looks so awestruck.

>>52751850
I've bought every single start collecting boxset, silver tower, hammerhal, gorechosen, the huge plastic land tiles and the starter set.

I've never played a single game against another person, I have crippling social anxiety, makes me sad.

fallen stormcast when?

>>52765183
at least you have lots of money apparantly

>>52765222
Hopefully never. They don't need to try imitating space marines.

Besides, chaos warriors were pretty much always fantasy's chaos space marines. So StD, KBB, DoT, and all them are your CSM

>>52758354
6 skyfires, tzangoor shaman, 10 marauders - perfect 500 point Army.

>>52765247
They didn't need to imitate space marines in making SCE in the first place but they did, so I wouldn't put it past GW to do it some more.

>>52764378
>>52764378
>But cost is relative and not everyone is well off in that respect.

Yes but it isnt expensive as a hobby.
Whenever one can AFFORD a hobby as nothing to do with gw price in comparison to other hobbies

Hey guys, what do you think about my seraphon list?

Skink starseer 160 pts
Bastiladon 300pts
stegadon 200pts

Eternal Starhost 60pts
Eternity Warden 140pts
5 suarus guard 100pts
5 suarus guard 100pts
5 suarus guard 100pts

Shadow strike starhost 120pts
Skink priest 100pts
10 Skinks 80pts
5 chameleon skinks 120pts
3 ripperdactyl riders 140pts

260pts left over

With the left over points I could play a suarus scarvet on a carnasuar 260pts or a skink priest 100pts and 2 razordons and 2 skink handlers 160pts.

The idea of the list is to form a battleline with the suarus guard marching forward. Between the skink priests and the eternal starhost they will have a 2+ re-rollable save. They only get a re-rollable save 50% of the time, but that die can be rerolled (with the starseer) for a 75% chance of working. Bastidon marches behind the battle-line and blows things up and can also join in on the 2+ rerollable save. Stegadon works on hoards with its sunfire throwers and large number of stomps. Shadow strike starhost just annoys the opponent, taking out key backfield units.

If I go with the carnesaur, the list is much more aggressive and has a way to really do damage to big monstrous creatures. If I pick the skink priest and razordons by list is more defensive, the second priest insures that I will almost always have my re-rollable saves while the razordons are a nice deterrent for a charge as they can fire an overwatch.

My big worry for this list is mortal wounds as they blow right through my guard-line with its low wound count. Hopefully my shadowstrike starhost can get rid of those units before my guards are all gone.

>>52765528
Increase rypperdactyls to 6 and Upgrade stegadon to bastilladon

>>52752885
To be fair, Sylvaneth and Seraphons both have absolutely rad designs. At first I wasn't too keen on Tree people, but it definitely grew on me.

The girl I've seen coming into the shop (with her bf mind you) was into Fyreslayers, so I guess it depends really.

>>52765575
>The girl I've seen coming into the shop (with her bf mind you) was into Fyreslayers
Seems legit. A lot of women do really enjoy watching gay man porn.

>>52760237
Fear not, Z has now switched to some weird resin that is basically plastic (but do wear a mask and use all the normal cancer resin precautions either way when handling it). Some anon in the wip threads ordered a necrosphynx from him and it was completely flawless, really seemed like plastic. I'd say go for it mate.

>>52765555
I am very new to seraphon but how much damage do you expect the bastidon to do compared the stegadon?

of the three monsters, bastidon, stegadon and carnasuar which is the strongest?

>>52752885
But I am playing Skaven...

>>52765677
Tucking your weenie between your legs does not make you a girl and it is not your skaven tail.

>>52752885
I play nurgle

GIVE ME NEW UPDATED BATTLETOME WITH NEW WORLDBUILDING

>>52765528
Stegadons are 260, Troglodons are 200

>>52765670
Laser stegadon is the best single unit in seraphon and one of the better ones in all of order - incredibly hard to remove and decent shooting.

>>52763671
The weakest model has like 3 wounds, but whatever man. If it's gone it is gone.

>>52765800
Oh wow, I am using battlescribe to make my list and they have it as 200pts. That really changes things.

I thought it was pretty good for its points at 200pts but at 260pts I am not too sure. Luckily I haven't actually bought the model.

So should I add a stegadon or a second bastiladon?

>>52755812
Legit retard.

>>52765255

Stormcast are Order Warriors in contrast to Chaos Warriors.

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>Doing a Campaign using the Regiment of Renown rules from All Gates.

Are Fiends of Slaanesh infantry or cavalry?

So there is a 1000 pts AoS tourney coming soonish at my local FLGS and i made a nurgle list and i want to add some kind of fighty/tough monster dude to deal with bullshit like Bloodthristers and other sub 300 rapey HQs and i was wondering are the The Maggoth Lords like Daemonspew any good? I would need to drop my herald to get the pts. Rest of the list is 3 nurgling bases,20 Plaguebearers,5 Blightkings and 3 Plague drones.

>>52766325
You don't necessarily need monsters to deal with monsters.

You need an Hellcannon

No mention of Your Dudes yet?

Well look no further!

Behold the warrior scyentists of the Heralds of Casandora!

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-oHgYUJC3RxosGz1Tqm1yInzvCVSuslkQutcUl4OmZk/edit?usp=sharing

>>52765253
>tzangoor
Are Tzaangors the most misspelled faction in all of AoS?

>>52764378
For me, the only problem with this hobby is how incredibly taxing it is on the time. I'm always behind schedule on painting my army and it's a constant source of stress. It's a good thing I couldn't care less about playing the game, because that would definitely leave me without one second of free time.

>>52766325
Plaguemonks can devastate those big guys who have such a high rend that elite troops wouldn't get saves anyways

>>52766484
>>52766368
I'm gonna probs get one of the maggot lords mostly since its more of a fluff than an competitive army. None of the people at the FLGS are bringing really competitive armies for AoS wich is fun meaning i can fuck around and paint/model cool shit.

Looking to get into the game with Order. If I wanted to rely on mostly humans (Do free people have the same titanum balls that guard has in 40k?), I was wondering how this would go for a basis:

-Free People General
-20 Sword n' board Guards
-10 Crossbows
-10 Handgunners

Probably going to add a mage and more shooty stuff down the road. Any must have stuff for such an army?

>>52766264
And we can only hope GW keeps it that way.

>>52766795
My starting 1000 points for my Free People's is
General on horse,
20 handgunners
20 handgunners
20 greatswords
20 guard with shield

>>52766284
Cav

>>52752929
Who spits out mortals in death? U mean choke out,,?

>>52766795
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Wl3zJzmXcXrievqvnoqtlOMHwG3-SCtRXMWfKFQ2ZVw
this is good for 1000 point beginners info

>>52761278
Is Heinrich is a named character ?

You cant give named characters artifacts or command traits

>>52762260
If it doesnt have points its not legal in matched play

>>52766875
Mortis Engines, Spirit Hosts, Zombie Drags and Terrorgheists. There are more I'm sure.

>>52765528
dont use eternal starhost. it is a shitty trap meme battalion that gets crushed hard by any kind of mortal wound output

dont use shadowstrike starhost. ripperdactyls suck against anything with a 4+ armor save so theyre only good at killing war machines. Chameleon skins do the same job but cheaper.

bring an astrolith bearer so your dinos can reroll hits

bring salamanders, you need more rend

terradons are always a good choice, but especially with a starseer that allows you to reroll dropping stones

bring a sunblood so you have a durable combat character for 3 places of power

What the fuck? I was just reading the GHB and in their Matched Play battle report the SCE player is 40pts over their limit.

Why was this allowed?

>>52767222
It's the nature of AoS points. They aren't quite as flexible as, say, 40k, where you can easily cut back on 5-10 points here and there. It's pretty easy to get stuck under the points limit by 40-60 points, so it's not unheard of to allow people to go a bit over. Personally, 40 is a bit much. I'd allow 20 max.

>>52767350
Isn't that the point of the triumph for having less points though?

>>52767222
aos points are not a hard cap, but rather a soft cap

when you play a matched play game you're trying to get two armies as close in power as possible. sometimes your army will be a little under or a little over.

tournaments will usually keep a hard cap

>>52767396
You mean sudden death? I was under the impression that was based on model count rather than points. I could be wrong though.

Here's a quick look at current competitive army rankings

God Tier
Stormcast (Aetherstrike)

High Tier
Tzeentch (Skyfires + LOC)
Tomb Kings (Settra + 12 NK)

Mid Tier
Everyone else

Aetherstrike is so insanely powerful that it has warped the meta. There is no viable melee list in the game that can beat it - even 12 necropolis knights can't do anything.

With 9 longstrikes you can kill almost anything in a single volley and the remainder of your points are spent on tech against mortal wound shooting armies like Skryre, Tzeentch Skyfires, and Thundertusks.

SCE nerfs fucking when?

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Allegiance: Chaos

Skaven Warlord (100)
- Pair of Barbed Blades
Grey Seer (120)
- General
- Trait: Great Destroyer
- Artefact: Favour of the Gods
20 x Clanrats (120)
- Rusty Spear
10 x Clanrats (60)
- Rusty Blade
10 x Clanrats (60)
- Rusty Blade
20 x Stormvermin (280)
- Halberd & Shield
1 x Warpfire Thrower Weapon Team (60)
1 x Warpfire Thrower Weapon Team (60)
1 x Warpfire Thrower Weapon Team (60)
Verminus Clawpack (80)

Total: 1000/1000

how does this look?
would I be better off merging the 10 model cleanrat units and replacing one warpfire thrower and the clawpack batallion with a doomwheel?

>>52767504
2 months ago fagitz

>>52767494
Im not well versed in Aetherstrike.
Is there really no waekness a DoT player can exploit ?
Literraly nobody plays Stormcast here..

>>52767350
>>52767401
Huh, OK, I thought being under was just a fact of life. I guess it depends group to group.
>>52767476
No, he means the Triumphs table, single use bonuses for one unit (re-rolling their saves for example).

>>52767596
Aetherstrikes only weakness is hitting the Longstrikes with mortal wounds.

Tzeentch has some good tools for this in their magic and skyfires but magic is outranged by Longstrikes and Aetherstrike can tech around skyfires with Protectors, Mirrorshield, Lantern of the Tempest. Its really easy to spend points on this tech because the core 1420 points of the list counters almost everything.

Thundertusks are a good counter but fielding more than 2 Thundertusks is not ideal because
a. Aetherstrike can play around it, so it's a soft counter at best
b. It leaves you very weak to other tournament lists because thundertusks are meme trash like kunnin rukk and eternal starhost

>>52767704
Not him, but is there a tournament aetherstrike won recently with result available online ?

Thinking of buying Spire of Dawn tomorrow for the Helves. Haven't bought anything warhammer related in like 15 years.

Do you think it will be in stock or will I have to order it? Are helves easy to paint? They look relatively easy.

>>52763640
My apologies; I basically have at least one unit of everything, along with 20 Zombies, 40 Ghouls, and 100 Skeletons. The few things I lack are more obscure stuff and some of the Tomb Kings sets, so stuff like Bats, Stalkers, etc.

My problem is I know pretty much what Im going to be facing. Beastclaw, Stormcast, Khorne Daemonkin, Slyaventh, etc.

Lots of heavy hitters, and Im going to need that mobility desperately. And Im sure that at this point, everyone and their mother has fought Skeleton hoards, and found ways to crack them.

Also, I just realized that since the Tournament is using Vanguard Limits, I can only have 2 behemoths. Good news is though, that I can merge the skeleton units.

>>52766881
Shit, really? Than I'll have to do a work around. Heinrich is amazing in a death army, due to him being practically immortal when in a horde, but that seriously hurts his usefullness. In that case, I may need to swap him out for a Wight King than, if only because he's also quite pricey.

>>52767746
Not sure if there are any recent tournaments that showcase its power, but it's tearing up every local scene when it shows up

It's a new battalion using new units in a new book. It might take a little bit more time before it becomes mainstream.

>>52767772
On the Games Workshop site it's marked as 'webstore exclusive', so I'd say it probably won't be in a brick-and-mortar shop.

>mfw that extreme lack of variety for Destruction
>mfw no Troggoth based faction or new grots
>mfw this would be solved if they at least updated old armies with new battletomes

>>52767803

If I go in to the store will they order it in for me if I ask or will I have to do it online myself?

>>52767819
Stores can order it for you

>>52767807
>>mfw that extreme lack of variety for Destruction
>>mfw no Troggoth based faction or new grots

As a moonclan player, I can tell you we have the most variety thanks to Forgeworld.
Also nothing comes close to the magmadragon in brokenness

>>52767846
>FW
But I thought they lacked support because FW are Horus heresy faggots now

>>52767846
>Forgeworld
Yeah, you can humour these double jews if you want, I'll pass.

>>52767596
>Is there really no waekness a DoT player can exploit ?
Drown them in bodies

Leaders
Herald Of Tzeentch (120)

Battleline
3x 10 Pink Horrors Of Tzeentch (420)

Units
14x 20 Blue Horrors Of Tzeentch (1400)

Multitudinous Host (30)

Total: 1970/2000

How good is Curseling? Worth taking in a general purpose force?

>>52767917
How would this help?

>>52767917
Simply win objectives through regenerating hoards of bodies.

>>52767772
There's a set at my gamestore

>>52767992
Oops, quoted myself. Meant to quote >>52767953

>>52767564
Pretty nice list for 1k, but you need a warlord with banner or you will see your rats run away quite fast. I dont run verminus clawpack under 1500 because units are too small.
Doomwheel is pretty meh imo, not the best investment & you lack some long range firepower, maybe switch 1 warpfire thrower with a mortar ?

I have a pretty good list for 1K point using Stormfiends instead of verminus clawpack bonus if you are interested.

>>52767992
>3 places of power

>>52767992
But blue horrors are slow as shit, how do they beat stormcast teleporting onto the objectives?
You don't have the damage or mobility necessary to take objectives away from the Stormcast player and whatever units you put on objectives can be focus fired down.

You only have 1 hero so you basically auto lose Three Places of Power.

You will almost always auto lose Take & Hold because you can't ever attack the opponents objective.

>regenerating
Only if the unit doesn't get wiped out, which is very easy for a shooting focused army like aetherstrike, especially since you have 6+ save in most of your army.

You'll be nearly tabled on turn 2 or 3 and lose objectives. This is not a good counter to Aetherstrike and it is not a good list in general

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>>52767788
Ah, well in that case I would personally go for the ghouls. They work better in multiple small units than skeletons.

Is merging skeletons a house rule? As far as I know, that's only a zombie thing. If it is indeed a house rule then keep the skeletons but otherwise, ghouls are the way. They're a bit faster and have two attacks base.

Pic related is how I'd change things. A stock Vampire Lord is a good supporting character with a small footprint (especially if winged). Buffs by giving an extra attacks and his spell takes attacks away. He'll also have that Stone Shaping spell to heal the Necrosphinx in a pinch.

Normal Necromancer instead of Heinrich for the Danse Macabre. This one's very much personal taste since I'm very unfamiliar with Heinrich. If you really want Kemmler then just replace some ghouls with zombies and make the switch. The idea would be to keep the Necromancer with the ghouls so buff your home field.

Coven Throne to Mortis Engine. The latter buffs your magic and is still pretty good in melee. It also has a nice shooting attack. The main reason for the switch though is that it's 80 points less. Those points have to come from somewhere!

>>52767876
>>52767884

On chinaman a behemot squig is like, 12€

>>52768039
ye i would like to see the stormfiend list (not warlock engineer + 3 units stormfiends pls)
I DO enjoy having plenty of shitrats THO, and the weapons teams are qts :3

good idea with swapping for a mortar
i could maybe scrap the clawpack for another 10 clanrats, but i'm not sure that'd be worth it

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>>52768174
How did I do ?

Its also sub 250€ om wayland with my discount, which is great

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>>52768278
This is a good starting point, but here's a few notes:

Judicators are a trash tier unit, never include more than you have to bring for a battalion. Use Liberators (one of the best battleline in the game) instead and save yourself 60 points.

You need 1 or 2 gryph hounds to counter Hammstrike Force, Warrior Brotherhood, Skryre, etc.

You can't give your Azyros 2 artifacts. You should bring a Castellant or Veritant to take the Lantern of the Tempest. Castellant has a nice +1 save buff but I think the Veritant adds more:
>access to Lightning Chariot (teleport birds into range to use battalion ability on turn 1, or save your raptors from a bad spot) or Bless Weapons
>Can deploy gryph hound alongside him, reducing total deployments by 1
>can unbind spells
>+3 to unbind if your gryph hound is within 6" of the wizard, adds further utility to gryph hound

Protectors are very good at stopping other Longstrikes, Skyfires, and Hellcannons, but they do nothing against Stormfiends and Thundertusks. I'm not sure 2 squads are worth it, but 1 is definitely worth bringing - it depends on the meta you expect to see.

Pic related is my current list

If your local scene is fine with going 20 points over you can upgrade the Hurricanes to Longstrikes

>>52755812
>spin the dice
what does that mean?

>>52768436
literraly mean the opposite of powercreep.
He is just the retarded kid of the thread

I'm trying to find a certain Orc model. I think it is a hero. It's just some orc looking cool with no armour or shirt on. Dunno if it's new or not. Anybody know what I'm talking about?

>>52768254
And they even throw in a cancer for free!

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>>52768452
Probably one of the Bonesplitterz.

Any of these it?

>>52768452
if its the one crossign hands woh an eyepatch, amd you are REALLY MOTIVATED to find a pic, it appeared in one of the last 10 threads... so go to the OP and look at every pic in the past thread again and again and again

>>52768500
fuck phoneposting

>>52768495

Nah, looks more like a warcraft orc, if that makes sense. Really jacked and serious looking.

>>52768500

I'm pretty sure this guy knows what is up. He knows what i'm talking about.

im gonna be honest, would be taking an entire flesh eater court for your first AoS match be a good idea? i just collect models and FEC seemed cool as well as death in general

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>>52768500
>>52768495

Found it.

>>52768523
Man -this thread isnt representative of real life.
plenty of people plays grots, freeguild, gore grunta based ironjaws, everchosen, wanderers etc.
People play the army that look cool and that they like.
If your FLGS is full of WinAtAllCost faggots, just go to another FLGS.

Fec will be good for your first game

>>52768579
ikr, all they seem to scream is that aelfs are OP, the new models are derpy and that army X needs an update. i know that people like to have cool new stuff like the other kids, but isnt it better to have what you've got rather than the tomb kings and the bretts?

>>52768415
どうもありがとうございます

>>52768702
*tips fedora*

>>52768523
Yes, it is nice army. Not WAAC but good and cool enough. I run monster heavy FEC that is not optimal for tournament play but I have fucking awesome time with it since it looks cool as hell.

Have GW discontinued Skeleton Warriors or are they just getting repackaged.

>>52768727
*unsheaths katana*

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>>52768415

>bow judicators do about 2.5 wounds against 4+ with shockbolt prime
>longstrikes do about 2.8 wounds against 4+

Longstrikes are clearly better but I wouldn't go so far as to say now judicators are garbage.

>>52769030
Judicators are hot garbage. They are not worth 160 points.

Longstrikes are normally about as bad as Judicators, but they can shoot multiple times per turn with Aetherstrike. They shoot in the hero phase, shooting phase, and any time the enemy kills a unit in your battalion.

If you do it right you can sacrifice judicators and aetherwings in your combat phase to get more shots out of your big squad of 9-12 Longstrikes.

Hey guys, I have a few questions about seraphon.

Lord Koak has a spell, celestial deliverance, in which it effects all units 3d6" away. If I have a Saurus Astrolith Bearer plant his banner does that add 8" to his casting range, so the spell becomes 3d6+8". Can I have two Astrolith bearers both plant the banner to double the effect?

Someone was saying that eternal starhost is a meme, which I understand as it can be crushed under mortal wounds. But what about suarus guard in general, is it worth taking a big block of them with the plans of casting mystic shield on them?

The same person was saying ripperdactyls were overrated, but they seem insanely good to me. What do you guys think?

>>52769177
>ripperdactyls were overrated, but they seem insanely good to me.

Remember rule of one.

And no, you only get one +8.

>>52768897
Repackaged I hope

>>52769125

I See, so even longstrikes in a vacuum aren't OP. Makes sense

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>>52769011

>>52769177
Re: Kroak and Astrolith
Yes, the spells range is normally 3D6 and you add 8" to the result. If you have multiple Astrolith Bearers you get +8" for each one. Every effect stacks unless it says otherwise

Saurus Guard are fine in the proper quantities. You don't want them to make up the bulk of your army because of their massive weakness to mortal wounds. Defensively they are weaker than Saurus Warriors point-for-point unless they have a hero nearby, at which point they become exactly the same as Warriors. However, this is only true against normal attacks - against mortal wounds the guard are HALF as effective as Warriors.
Offensively the Guard have better damage stats (3+/3+ Rend-1 is amazing for battleline units) but their 1" range means you don't want a big squad because they won't all get into melee range.

Saurus Guard are best used in one squad of 5-10 and kept near a hero to prevent a fast combat unit like a chariots from engaging them. Treat them like an elite version of Saurus Warriors and don't try to fill your army with them.

Ripperdactyls are not very good. They need to fight near the toad to do any significant amount of damage, but even in this situation their lack of Rend means you can only hit soft targets. They need to survive multiple rounds of combat to get good value because they only reroll hits/wounds on your turn, but they only have 3 wounds each and a 5+ save so they won't survive long enough. Terradons are always a better use of 140 points since you get all the value from them in a single round - fly over to drop rocks, then swoop, then shoot, then charge.

>>52769281
Even if you only get one extra attack with them, they still seem insanely good. 3 ripperdactyles will cause about 20 wounds on the turn they charge. This will kill a hero with <10wounds and a 4+ save. Against a unit with 1w and 5+ save that is about 13 wounds which will then cause at least 3+d6 more casualties in battle shock.

They seem like an amazing suicide unit to just clear the most dangerous threat.

>>52769125

Longstrikes become absurd in an order army with a hurricanum.

Getting headshot on a 5+ means 12 will just flat out do 8 mortal wounds before even rolling to wound.

>>52768471
What's this all about?

>>52769690
Cheap shitty plastics and resin will fuck you up, senpai.

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>>52768532

That's a conversion. It's made from an Ogroid Thaumaturge's top half and Megaboss legs.

>>52769739

Z's new stuff isn't the horrible cancer gasoline resin of yore

>>52751850
battletome downloads when?

>>52769670
Yes but then you cant run aetherstrike

>>52769515
Thanks Serabro.
Do you ever think it is wise to take a minimum size eternal starhost? I guess you are paying 240 pts to give 300pts worth of guys 1+ sv and 1 attack

As for the ripperdactyles vs terradons, are the rock drops really that good? Against most things the extra attacks from the rippers seem to do more damage, especially considering it is very likely that only one hits.

>>52769754
I want to play mordheim or the fan made hinterland with my boyfriend where we each have 3 or so warbands and we cycle through playing each warband. And suggestions on what models come out good and which come out bad by Z? I assume you should never buy sylvaneth because they have too many small pieces, are single hero models safe?

>>52767834
Will they build it for me too?

>>52769863

Not at 2000 no but you can at 2500 and above.

>>52769897
>Do you ever think it is wise to take a minimum size eternal starhost? I guess you are paying 240 pts to give 300pts worth of guys 1+ sv and 1 attack
In casual play its fine but I wouldnt ever bring it to a competitive tournament. Eternity Warden is a bad hero and guard shouldnt be the bulk of your army for reasons I already explained.

>As for the ripperdactyles vs terradons, are the rock drops really that good? Against most things the extra attacks from the rippers seem to do more damage, especially considering it is very likely that only one hits.
Neither unit will survive more than one turn in combat.
In one turn the Terradons will do more damage between their rocks, shooting, and beaks.
Terradons have the added utility of having a shooting attack, which means you dont NEED to engage in melee to get some damage done.
Seraphon have very few sources of mortal wounds so Terradons fit a good niche. If you bring a starseer you can reroll the failed rock drops.

>>52769944

Modern kits are the most safe, if you're getting a sprue cast then it's probably going to be fine.

Only problems I ever had were teeny tiny resin pieces and my latest purchase was a porphyrion where even the guard rails were cast perfectly so I can't complain about his most recent quality

>>52753546

For such a big guy you are a really insecure faggot.

Tomb Kings

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>>52770364
when you make a new fucking thread

>>52767927
I have it primed and waiting painting since forever, but never used it in a game yet. The mini is really cool desu but for what it does in game perhaps it's a bit expensive in my opinion

>>52769332
I don't understand why they would even design aetherstrike in the first place, from a conceptual point of view its just asking for problems.

Same thing goes for the Kharadron mortars and the Khemist. Anyone with a brain can figure out a unit with 100+ shots at d3 damage per turn from 36" existing is detrimental the game.

>>52770614

Aetherstrike was trying to be fluffy and ended up being super fucking strong. Look at the other mixed battalions in the SC book, they're fluffy but dumb.

Mortars I don't even give a shit about because they're still not as bad as bonesplitta/bretonnian arrow spam

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>>52768259
Here we go, Skaven 1k. Build your Stormfiends following what you're facing, warpfire projector for cheesy list & ratling for the fun !

>>52768199
I like the list, but the problem is the Vanguard limit they put on the lists at the Tournament.

Bad news is that it means I can only use 2 behemoths and 4 heros. Good news is that I only have to take 2 battleline. I'm thinking about dropping the Bone Giant, in exchange for a different behemoths. Thoughts?

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>>52770774
>behemoths

My Fireglaives will tear them apart

>>52770442
>hurr to expensive take another ogroid instead
WAACfag pls go

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>>52770774
Here's a modified list, based on the restrictions:

Merged the Ghouls and Skeletons into bigger units, added in the Carin wraith, and dropped the Bone Giant for a mortis engine.

>>52771004
Don't field the wraith and summon it if you need it? (so you can sumon zombies if you need something on an objective)

>>52770774
Depends on what you have. Morghast Archai with the Vampire Lord command ability are disgusting compared to a bone giant.

>>52770864
Ah, it's another coming of the faggot who feels the compulsive need to constantly remind everyone that he pays crazy dosh for an army that it neither particularly strong, nor particularly good-looking.

>>52771204
I know you're bitter about being poor but please don't take it out on other people.

>>52771332
its not really even that much more expensive anymore

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