/btg/ Battletech General!

>>52676079
haha japan did nothing wrong hold

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First for Purple Burd!

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can't stop won't stop

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Fuck all this real world talk, let's have "Fuck yo planes Charlie Murphy!" talk.

>>52676152

Fuck you, Riflemen II don't exist. Gray Noton's Rifleman was a stock -3N.

>>52676174

None of this exists. It's cheesy science fiction about giant robots in an alternate universe. Rifleman II is fine.

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>>52676174
I agree, Noton was definitely in a stock -3N, and anyone who says otherwise is someone who can't be balls to the wall with it, but I like the RFL-II... and the III. The latter needs a Mixtech variant, which I have right here!

>>52676152
Did you know Charlie Murphy is dead? Fun fact: he died recently.

>>52676242
That's why I brought it up, actually.

>>52676206
A Rifleman-III with ammo isn't a Rifleman-III. It's some abomination unto the Lord Noton.

>>52676206

Ew, XL engine and Guass rifles in the torsos? I expected better from you. Come back with the quad Guasses, null-sig, SFE and max hardened armor, and it'll be good.

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This elite crew of Kurita mechwarriors are on their way to seize your homeworld, and all you have are a lance of mechs to defend it.

What's your lance consist of?

And what song is playing?

>>52676280
Two AIV Urbies with a nuke each. Two Yeomans modified with gigantic speakers. We'll nuke them twice, make them apologize for their wrongdoing, and broadcast american media at them for the next 50 years.

As for the song, something pop from 1945.

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>>52676263
It has gotten banned from grinder Solaris games, because of the four kills in one turn my cousin got with it.

>>52676267
I've got you buddy. Monkey Paw

>>52676315

Like they'd apologize. It's not like they did anything wrong in the first place.

>>52676346

Two nukes says "you're wrong, because fuck you". It's a good system.

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>>52676318
And to not leave the filthy clanscum out of it, take this too.

>>52676346
Knew that'd draw you out. Good to see where your buttons are.

>>52676318
It's pretty disgusting, CA. 4 GRs with 7 tons of ammo is a lot. That other one is just ridiculous, btw.

Are any of the Draconis mechs developed in the 3050s and 3060s any good?

Aside from the omni line.

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>>52676315
Take these over the Urbie. More shots.

>>52676450
Some of them have the potential to be but are stuck with SHS. Even their upgrades of classic designs suffer from this. The Panther, a design that could use DHS, is deprived of them for a while.

I believe they make a variant of the Hatamoto-chi, the -28T, that has DHS and is all around pretty good for the era.

>>52676450
The Komodo is an amusingly nasty urban fighter, for one

>>52676665
Wasn't the Komodo initially made to deal with elementals before it became 10 points of armor plus 1 point for the operator?

>>52676280
I would probably do the same as
>>52676315
but my pilots would all be over six feet tall, blond with a square chin unless they were black guys or Koreans, having big penises or chicks with long blond hair and a huge Jap-unobtainable rack.

Okay, I'm thinking of branching out to a new game and this seems kind of interesting.

Sell me on Battletech, /btg/.

>>52676846

Elementals have always been 10+1, so no.

Bigger problems with it are the rules changes on Infernos and its shitty armour.

>>52676889
Unbelievable amounts of customization to your liking. Like of both derp and silly history. Lots of time periods in which to play. Mechs and tanks as well as other military units evolve as technology increases. Great vidya as well. Pretty great community (here, only here.) Some silly inside jokes. A lot of great guys here that are helpful to newbies. Long history of awesome.
There are some problems, but it's been worth it for me since I started when I was a kid in the mid-80s.

>>52676889
Do you like Giant Robots, dynastical fuckery from Dune, centuries of war, MASSIVE 80s HAIR and a relatively slow game? If so, this is a good game. Most people admit to not playing the game and following the fluff only, which is fine too.

Also, anons, I have too many customs, and editing the omnis to say their gear is now pod mounted is physically painful.

>>52676896
>Elementals have always been 10+1, so no.
This has to be some faulty memory on my behalf, because I thought the original TRO when the Clans showed up had older battle armor sheets with only ten armor slots then the unit was out of action. Don't mind me.

>>52676935
TRO 3050 does say they have 10 armor, but the rules are clear that it's 10 armor, then one point of meaty "internal structure" to kill them. They've always been able to survive an AC 10 or PPC hit.

>>52676935
Nah man. Even in the BoK trilogy, Shin Yodama tags one in the face with a large laser and it just laughs him off. Toads were feared for a reason.

But then at least you had Citytech rules where a lance of Wasps loaded with infernos could mop some points up in double time.

You know, it's kinda funny how many things considered mediocre or shitty nowadays were pretty great generalist designs back in the day.

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>>52676989
>>52677012
Then it's my shoddy memory. I haven't done any Clan missions with elementals in a long ass time and just forgot and thought the rules changed at one time. My bad.

>>52676889

Tons of customization, tons of options for units, plenty of cheeky history (in fluff and in what some players have done on the tabletop). Pretty solid community here on /tg/ (I do not advise the official forums or reddit for BT). If you're a fan of lots of options and a methodical, tactical game that still has room for silliness, BT might just be right up your alley. Also, giant robits errywhere.

>>52677054
It's more inconsistency and a change of terminology. The BA record sheets in TRO 3050 had 11 boxes (numbered 0-10) but the rules said Elementals had 10 points of armor and a trooper was out of action when the armor was gone. BT Compendium rules state them as having 11 points of armor. It was later that they expressed things BA durability as armor+1.

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>>52677101
>but the rules said Elementals had 10 points of armor and a trooper was out of action when the armor was gone.
That was it! I knew I kind of remembered something like that. Thanks, man.

>>52676280
Four nightstars, aiming for the knees.
Take them all alive and do absolutely nothing bad to them, because we're professionals, not dracs

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>>52676346
>Did nothing wrong

>>52676174
Rifleman II is fine. Grey Noton never drove one, but it's a fine mech in it's own right

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>>52676280

It doesn't matter what 'Mechs we have. We get fucked just because we're part of FRR and FRR exists pretty much only to get shit on by everyone else, then get rekt and eaten by the Clans. (I still love FRR, though.)

>>52678482
>Rifleman II is fine. Grey Noton never drove one

That's not what Randall said. Noton drove a Rifleman II, as per the totally canon MWO fluff Randall wrote. You can not like it, but Noton never drove a stock 3N Rifleman on Solaris.

>>52678517
>implying you're not Kuritas
>Kuritas coming to take the Kurita homeworld
>just another day in the Kokuryu-Kai.jpg

Should Rapid-Fire be the default rule for machine guns?

>>52678592
The option should be a default choice like ECM modes, but it should not always be engaged. Sometimes you need those things at zero heat even if the damage is less. Like on a Pixie. That thing runs hot enough as it is.

>>52678592

The option to turn it on is better than on by default. Otherwise the Gunapult is even sillier.

>>52678740
>fire it once and it explodes and/or the pilot bakes alive

The perfect solhama machine

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>>52678834

Thanks, now I have ideas to make a Gunapult IIC.

Besides one having a larger weapons loadout and a double-edged axe, what the hell are the visual differences between the Hatchetman and the Axman?

>>52680752

You mean other than armor, and tonnage - the primary stat for determining melee damage (weapons included)?

>>52680752
>>52680775

Sorry, I'm retarded and have 3/4 of a bottle of wine in me. I thought it was general differences; visually, everything's bigger and the Axman has a shoulder/side torso missile launcher. Not counting handheld weapon variants.

>>52680752
Hatchetman is like a chick with a b cup.
Axman is like a thicc chick.

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>>52680798
>>52680794
Pardon the quick sketches, but something like this?

Probably need to enlarge the lasers, the autocannon and the hatchet to make it look more like a heavily armed 45 tonner.

My player are in need of a boss for their mercenary command. I was thinking of using a former Fed Suns or FWL battalion major as the basis of the character. If the major survived conflict between the FedCom civil war and end of the Jihad, what would their command skills and mech skills look like? Let's assume the game will be starting just before a heavily AU'd RotS becomes a huge thing (and maybe just ends of breaking down quickly, I admit I haven't decided that yet)

>>52681199
That's actually pretty good; the Hatchetman was always slim, and the Axeman was always kinda stout for its size. The AC on the Hatchetman could stand to be a bit bigger, but not too much. You could also experiment with giving it a cowl much like the Hunchback has to give it a distinct look. Or, mount it just above the waist like an Atlas since traditionally it's located around the upper chest, and the change might make for an interesting profile without making it feel so similar to the Axeman.

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>>52681199
Hatchetman also has a little sphere on the left side of the head.

>>52681199
Where is the b cup I was promised

>>52681427
Sports bra. Things are compressed.

>>52676889
The mechanics are tremendously clunky, the lore has 35 years of publication history that you need to know all of to have any decent conversation, and the player community is the worst I've ever seen for any game ever. If you're into that sort of thing, Battletech is probably up your alley.

>>52677012
>Even in the BoK trilogy, Shin Yodama tags one in the face with a large laser and it just laughs him off. Toads were feared for a reason.
LLs deal 8 damage so whether it takes 10 or 11 to kill them is moot, isn't it?

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>>52681363
Aye, I'm going to make that sphere into a ball airplane camera.

>>52681427
Fine, geez.

Not safe for life

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>>52681334
In the original art, the AC/10 of the hatchetman is either on the shoulder or depressed into the right torso, chest level. Here's a resized version with some sort of cowl, though I'm going to have to redesign it several times to get it to look unique from alex' hunchie.

My goals with all these doodles/ re-imaginings is to make them as faithful to the original as possible, for maximum brownie points.

>>52681520

It is but one would expect a large laser hit to incapacitate a BA trooper, if the warrior hadn't fought one yet. BT Small Lasers would leave an M1A1 Abrams a pool of molten metal and a large laser is nearly three times as powerful. Shooting a dude with one should cook him in his power armour can, but BT armour is magical and Elementals are pumped to gills on combat drugs to keep them fighting when injured or in pain.

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>>52681522
wew

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>>52681522
Oh-my...

>>52681689
>BT Small Lasers would leave an M1A1 Abrams a pool of molten metal
I see this make the rounds a lot, but I have a lot of difficulty believing it.

>>52682626

Cray did the working out for it a few iterations of the OF ago.

BT weapons are stupidly powerful because the armour is basically magical.

>>52682763
>Cray did the working out for it a few iterations of the OF ago.

So there's no canon source for this then.

>>52680562
I have to find that design I had somewhere for the smallest mech I could mount a HGR on, called it the Noisy Cricket IIRC.

>>52683785
OF musings are canon, shitlord.

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>>52681568
>>52681199
On a different note, should the Axman have a centralized head or should it be to the side?

It's art shows that it's head is slightly to the side like with a thunderbolt, but personally I find the centered head to look more concise to the overall design.

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Couldn't find it so I made it. Try not to fire while moving, it's prone to blowing you on your ass.

>>52684200
I like the centered head, especially when it carries over to the variant with the twin LRMs.

>>52684200
Normally I'm a fan of strong asymmetry, but in this case, I'm gonna have to opt for centered as well.

>>52684219
>unnecessary heat sink
>small cockpit
Why.jpg

>>52681568
Personally, I think that Hatchetman must have a wide range of movement of limbs in order to fight melee attacks.
Since the cowl of a large autocannon (like a hunchback) obstructs the visibility of the right side and melee attack, I propose to put an autocannon on the abdomen like Atlas or Orion.

>>52684200
I like centered head better

>>52684293
I originally went small so I could have 12 HS but instead I gave it an extra ton of armor to cover the left arm better. 12 would have been heat neutral for a frontal alpha strike on the run, this'll be +1 on the run instead. Oddly enough it's not showing the extra armor on the arm. Went 12 on the left and 7 on the right.

It might be obvious but I don't build mechs and when I do I normally just make a dumb concept design or refit something that exists already.

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>>52684200
I suspect that offset head is probably more the result of borked perspective than anything.

Plus offset head is less friendly to the AXM-2N.

So I started a pirate campaign, and the generated "raid" contracts are paying income and providing less then 100% salvage rights, when the current AtB rules have them providing 100% salvage. Is there something wrong or do I just manually change them?

>>52684219

>40t
>XLFE/Endo
>6.5t standard
>4/6/4
>HGauss w/2t ammo
>Mlas, ERSlas

There. No Small cockpit and better mobility.

>>52684705

Also cheaper Cbill wise but an uptick in BV.
Considering finding a way to wedge a c3 in there somehow.

>>52684728
Would C3 be worth it? Too slow and flimsy to make a good spotter and the damage loss over range probably wouldn't be worth it with the HGR would it?

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>>52684501
Yeah, I guess it is.

>>52684316
Here are a couple of alternatives. Ball-joints will enable the arms and legs to achieve the increased range of mobility required for a melee weapon wielding battlemech.

The rest of the weapon assembly would need to protrude from the backside or the side near the waist, otherwise the AC10 won't look menacing enough and will make the rest of the mech look much larger in comparison.

>>52685308
I like option A the best.
Option D actually looks better to me, but it's a little too much like the Hunchback

Incidentally, I find it pretty good weird that there's never been a hatchet Hunchback, because of all mechs, the Hunchback makes nearly the most sense as a axe murderer

>>52685308
>The rest of the weapon assembly would need to protrude from the backside
Sounds good, remember that the Hatchetman does share the rearward quick reload clip feature of the Enforcer, so a bit more to the rear could work well with that.

>>52685308
D, or number 4 for me, hands down. The others don't have that possible range of motion for the cannon and doesn't look fierce enough.

On the side I noticed the shoulder joints stick out a bit compared to the 3025 original. It makes your design look less flimsy even though the old Hatchetman doesn't have a lot of armor. Yours looks more like a front line fighters.

In any case, I like it.

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>>52685308
It is really wonderful design!
I think that the configuration of the second from the left (option B) is good.
If clip-type feeding mechanism like Boforce 40 mm protrudes on the back side, it will look like option B.

If you want "power" in the illustration seen from the front, how about depicting AC10 as a thick armor tube wrapping multiple barrels?

It is possible to use a FOAB (Father of all Bombs) type weapon in BT? I mean have some 30-ton VTOL or aerospace fighter drop one of these instead of a portable nuke?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4409772/US-drops-biggest-non-nuclear-bomb-combat-time.html

>>52685844
edit: - While listening to the news story on the radio it was called the "Father of all Bombs" and yet the article says Mother of all Bombs. In any case, one of these.

>>52685308
Have you drawn the Bushwacker before?

If not I'd like to see your take on it.

Anyone here have Bushwacker variants to share? I've had a soft spot for the thing since MW3.

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>>52685872
MWO already did it

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>>52685872
Alex/ FD already kind of did the bushwacker.

So an lrm 10 clusters into two groups of five, both hit the internal structure of the right torso, do you confirm for crit once or twice?

>>52686121

Twice. There are two separate instances of damage to the torso location, therefore you check twice.

>>52686121
Twice. If both hit the internal structure.

Is there a way to edit the generated contract incomes/salvage rights in MekHQ or do I just have to rewrite the contract by adding a new one? The edit option seems only to affect dates and employers.

>>52685386
I was looking at both the 3025 and the 3050U images, as well as the battle of twycross hatchetman.

The 3025 one has an angled perspective, while the 3050U ones have wide shoulders compared to the hips.

>>52685814
>>52685456
Yeah, some form of protrusion for the mechanical and ammo assemblies in the back, though not too egregious.

>>52685386
I could go with option C and mix it with D a bit. Cannon assembly at armpit level, barrel longer to show that it's an AC/10, and some form of integrated cowl assembly. The one on the D is rather heavy handedly copied from the hunchie.

>>52686121
Every time you score a hit against IS, roll for crit. While it's from a single attack, it's considered two hits. If it scored hits against both RT and LL, and both were down to IS, that's still two crit rolls, one against the RT, one against the LL.

Centurion or Enforcer?

>>52687131
Vindicator.

>>52687131

Hellstar

>>52687131
Japanese Army.

>>52687131
Enforcer, for sure.

>>52687131
I've had more success with the centurion but I love me the enforcer.

>>52687131
Very slight edge to the Enforcer because of jumping, though I prefer the Cent for adding to a heavy or assault lance

>>52687131
I prefer the Enforcer just a bit.

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Hey /tg/ what does it mean when there is a star to the left of the mechs name in the Master Unit List?
http://masterunitlist.info/Era/FactionEraDetails?FactionId=29&EraId=255&federated-suns&late-succession-war---lostech

>>52688435
Try mousing over it, it'll tell you. It means the unit is featured in a TRO.

>>52688454
Oh, on iPad so nothing happens
You get that information when you click it anyway

>>52688526
No worries, glad to be of service.

Would /btg/ recommend Kurita or Steiner to a new player?

Kind of going off the big picture view of Space Japan and Space Germany. Interested in what pulls players to each one.

>>52688716
Steiner is best faction, of course.

>>52688716
Steiner is all heavies and assaults with incompetent commanders

Kurita is muh honorabru combat with heat curve designs past 3050

>>52688716
Steiner. Getting to play with heavier mechs invariably in of great interest to newer players, and when they want to branch out into lighter designs, Steiner has them covered there too.

>>52688716
Steiners got good light mechs and a lot of assaults.

Also the Blitzkrieg, because there aren't enough units that make double-tapping your UAC20 absolutely worth it every single time.

To Roleplay in the battletech should I use a Time of War or another RPG system? Mind you, I have no interest in buying any of the miniatures at the time. I heard the rpg has no rules for mech combat so that is of a major concern to me (I don't want to have to buy a whole other game).

>>52688937
If you don't want to use minis or learn the minis rules, you may not want to learn the BattleTech RPGs (A Time of War) since they use Classic BattleTech for mech combat.

>>52688716
You play Steiner if you want mechs with:
-Gauss Rifles, AC20s.
-Hatchets
-High Armor.
-Slow Movement profiles.
There are exceptions to each rule, but those are generally what to expect.

You play Kurita if you want
-PPCs of all kinds
-Mechs with big engines - sometimes too big.
-C3 Networks
-IS Omnimechs
-Swords

Though the Single Heat Sinks is a dampener on the situation, it's mostly gone by 3060.

Also depends on the playstyle, too. Steiner tends to find a spot, make a firing line, and not move for the rest of the game, especially if artillery isn't being used. Kurita tends to be way more mobile, relying on the movement mods to survive.

Use Paper standies as proxies to try out the feel of each force before you go blowing the bank, though.

>>52688716
Kurita takes a skilled person and/or a special kind of masochist to play. It's not something you recommend to a newbie at all.

>>52688937
Pretty much that.

Most people who want to roleplay Battletech have already dipped into playing Battletech as a wargame, and so the RPG is treated as an expansion rather than a stand-alone.

A lot of folks like the 3rd edition RPG more, but I tend to like 2nd edition or aToW more, since they both adhere to the 2D6 mentality. The later the edition, the more support it will have for "Modern" era play, of course, because they wouldn't have known there would be TSEMPs in the game in 1992...

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>>52686462
This is what the C-D version would roughly look like.

>>52688879
Played a game last night where I emptied the bins on a Blitzkrieg. It worked surprisingly well with a Barghest.

>>52688716

If he's European, he should main Steiner. Going Drac would be cultural appropriation and we don't need that sort of racist behavior in the playerbase.

>>52689191
It's not a camera though, it's a sensor pod, the thing that gives it the anti-aircraft perk.

>>52689324
I watch a lot of JAV so I might like Kurita.

>>52689387
I was looking at google images of sensor pod.

Particularly the Scorpio and the AAQ-16 FLIR drone camera and sensor pods.

>>52689520
It was made from 1980's ship radar pods.

>>52689501

Quit eye-raping our women, round-eye.

>>52689656
Quit making JAV. I enjoy my Kira Kira too much.

http://javfor.me/95690.html

>>52689982
Those have to be implants.
>censored
Because Drac vagina is sideways, like their piloting skills.

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>>52685308
A is my favorite. B is most like the classic. C is probably the most acceptable way to mount the AC in terms of range of motion for the hatchet arm and serviceability. D is cool but does look too much like it was chopped out of a Hunchback.

I'd either prefer A or C, with the barrel on C being slightly longer; more like D's barrel. also maybe a shorter handle on the hatchet. Liking how it all looks though, however you decide to go.

>>52688937

So, what my group does is use a voice chat system (and a chat channel dice roller) for the roleplaying stuff while using A Time of War rules, and then use MegaMek for the mech combat stuff. It's not bad; you don't have to buy either (AToW is in the mediafire dumps, and MM is free by nature), and you can keep things chugging along. So, if you're going to play in person, megamek and a laptop or two are always an option. Or, IIRC, there's some paper cutouts and tokens on the mediafire, so you could print those out and use those instead of buying minis.

So is the leopard dropship capable of a v-landing? Regardless if it is, how do you execute a v-landing in megamek?

>>52693421
All aerodyne DS lack VTOL capability, and can only do so in vacuum. All those Broadswords just hovering around for your pickup in MW2 were a lie.

Otherwise, vertical landings are done by descending to altitude 1, then clicking the V-land button.

>>52694002
>>52693421
In Wolves on the Border they described mechs being dispatched from dropships (Leopards?) by jumping out the back and arresting their fall with jumpjets, that was pretty cool.

Just finished that book yesterday, whoever said it was really good was right.

>>52694134
That's an assault/combat drop, and yes, the rules allow for it. For low-altitude they'll use jumpjets or jump packs to slow their decent. For sub-orbital, they'll have a heat shield cocoon to protect the unit from atmospheric friction and heat.

>Be me.
>Bought 2 Introductory Box sets last May for $45 each.
>Be excited for first true game of Battletch, using BV and such.
>Suddenly have urge to use restroom while waiting for opponent to show up.
>Use restroom.
>Return to find that someone went into your army case.
>Shit, 99%-ish of my Mechs have been stolen.
>Left with an Atlas, 2 Banshees, 2 Commandos, a Battlemaster, a Dervish, a Grasshopper, a Zeus and a Hunchback.
>Opponent finally arrives.
>Opponent puts $25 onto my store credit
>Opponent is a good guy.
>Shop's pricing ranges from $10 (Firestarter) to $18 (King Crab).
>Save money for now.
>Still pissed that the majority of my Mechs were stolen.
>Glad I left my pewter stuff I had at home due to not painting them.
>Collection is now 2 Hunchbacks, 2 Commandos, 2 Banshees, 1 Grasshopper, 1 Atlas, 1 Battlemaster, 1 Dervish, 1 Zeus, 1 Defiance, 2 Ontos Tanks, 2 LRM Carriers, 1 Behemoth II, 4 Scorpion Light Tanks, 1 squad of Grey Death Battle Armor, 1 squad of Grey Death Scout Armor, 1 Warrior Helicopter (which I field as a DI Multipurpose VTOL).
>Now panic about upcoming Campaign and lack of choices.

>>52694537
>not taking your bag in and painting your pewters on the shitter
it's like you endeavor to waste as much time as possible

>>52694537
Wow, that someone would steal the plastics out of your bag is fucking despicable. Hope you find and murder them for their sins.

>>52694537

Use tokens and/or cutouts and explain. Reasonable people will be fine, and autistic fuckbags can GTFO. Sucks that happened to you dude.

>>52694582
>>52694610
Thefts rarely happen at this place. Never heard of one happening the entire two years I've been gaming here.

Like, I left my entire $500 40k Imperial Guard army alone at the shop in the basement gaming area for an hour while I browsed shit upstairs. Nothing happened. Not a single model missing.

Whoever took it has the entire store pissed off. They think it may have been one of the people visiting from out of town.

>>52694640
I was thinking about that, but it would bug me on a personal level due to what playing 40k for 8 years hammered into my skull.

>>52694537
>>Return to find that someone went into your army case.

Huh? Was the store swamped with people or something? How did that get past the shopkeep?

>>52694696
The silver lining of it is if they stole the minis out of the intro kit, you didn't lose much. They're very cheap plastic models. Using cutouts or tokens is just as good compared to those.

>>52694717

Congratulations, you're now playing a game that allows reasonable compromises.

>>52694726
It's $90 he's out and the minis are great for starting a collection. It's what I did and I don't regret a second of owning them. Fucking sucks and I hope someone finds that thief and breaks their knees, mafia-style. What's the old punishment for theft? Losing a hand or something? Do that to them.

>>52694537

Dude that sucks.

Fortunately CGL is trying to get another introductory box set in the mix with some updated sculptures.

>>52694725
Gaming area is downstairs, the actuall store is upstairs. The gaming area is filled with security cameras though, but they're not monitored or viewed until someone mentions a theft since such things rarely happen.

>>52694726
I'm just pissed at the fact they were stolen. I didn't really care about most of the Mechs, due to loving Lyran stuff, which I was lucky to be left with a handful of.

>>52694774
He's bound to be caught. Besides the owner looking at the security cameras, we also have several people keeping an eye out on craigslist and eBay.


>On a side note
I think they left the plastics they didn't take because they didn't take the time to go through more than just my top layer of padding.

>>52694811
>Gaming area is downstairs, the actuall store is upstairs.

I'm guessing that the minis were in the store? If so, that's even weirder. Imagine being a shopkeep and watching someone you don't know rifle through a bag in the retail area.

>>52694804
>Fortunately CGL is trying to get another introductory box set in the mix with some updated sculptures.

I honestly don't believe it anymore. Unless there's another porch-tier dollar soak that we don't know about, they should have developed more than enough funds from the sale of the previous boxed sets to run another two.

>>52694860
They were downstairs. I was literally the only one downstairs at the time (Thursdays and Tuesdays seem to be empty days in the gaming area and I had arrived an hour early to learn more rules from the shop owner).

So yeah, I lowered my guard and got stabbed for it.

>>52694758
It's nice to use the Hunchback HBK-7R Pewter, which is my favorite Hunchback mini, and use it as the HBK-5SG. I just wish there was a variant with a Rotary AC.

>>52694971
>They were downstairs. I was literally the only one downstairs at the time (Thursdays and Tuesdays seem to be empty days in the gaming area and I had arrived an hour early to learn more rules from the shop owner).
>So yeah, I lowered my guard and got stabbed for it.

Damn. Well, shit. I'd say it's normal to leave miniatures under a camera. Sorry to hear that, man. I'd ask if you could go through the footage yourself to make sure there aren't any shenanigans happening.

>>52694904

This is CGL though.

Incompetence in all things.


I'd just as readily believe the owners are gouging money from the company and leaving it unable to function as I would them trying to get a manufacturer but shitting it up by going with the wrong one again.

>>52694904
That's assuming it all went into a pot that sat around and did nothing rather than being used for any one of CGL's 50 other games. I highly doubt they have individual money pools for each game line, even if they have a general budget for each. It wouldn't make financial sense, because then your money is sitting around doing nothing.

Besides, they've said now that they're looking at doing some other kind of box set, so who knows what the hell is happening.

>>52695003
I trust the shop owner. This is the guy who has a huge tub of the WizKids MechWarrior/Dark Age minis and sells them $1 a pop.

I was actually planning on asking if anyone could suggest anything to look for that scales decently with the IWM when it comes to vehicles and infantry. It's how I got my two Grey Death armor squads.

>>52695030
>This is CGL though.
>Incompetence in all things.

Not everything. I enjoyed how they navigated the god-awful mess that was Dark Age.

>>52695082
>That's assuming it all went into a pot that sat around and did nothing rather than being used for any one of CGL's 50 other games. I highly doubt they have individual money pools for each game line, even if they have a general budget for each. It wouldn't make financial sense, because then your money is sitting around doing nothing.

CGL does not have 50 other games. The two games that have been pushed since the last boxed set run have been Battletech and Shadowrun. Unless SR bled a staggering amount of money, things should be better than they are.

You're right in that they wouldn't leave a stack of cash on the table doing nothing, but my point was simplified to get across the meaning: It seems CGL has lost a ton of money somewhere. Again. And again, it won't be because of poor sales.

>Besides, they've said now that they're looking at doing some other kind of box set, so who knows what the hell is happening.

That's the thing though, they've been saying that for so long that there's no way they've been actively working on it. If they were, it'd be here by now. Hell, we'd probably be on our second run. CGL is reaching talk to deliver ratios that rival Palladium, and that's with them throwing that ratio by talking about it as little as possible.

>>52695110
All the wizkids infantry and battle armor stuff is the same scale IWM uses for regular battletech because IWM bumps them up a scale for detail. Barring the ones sculpted way too big, like I thing the Rifle infantry.

Vehicles and mechs are mostly a much larger scale. Some are too small to be properly the scale they were supposed to be like the Uziel, but not small enough for real proper battletech scale.

>>52695238
Not him but it all seems pretty regular to me. Last box set was 2014. They release one every 2-3 years. That still puts us in the pocket. Add in that they're actually putting in new sculpts instead of just retooled 2007 plastics and I can see it being on the back end of the cycle.

>>52695301
the time difference between having plates mastered for the 2007 run and the 2014 run and the ?2018? run should be identical, all things being equal

>>52695238
They have BT, Shadowrun, Shadowrun Encounters, Leviathans, Cosmic Patrol, Valiant RPG, Valiant Deckbuilding, Vikings, Jarl, The Duke, Wrath of Dragons, Paiko, Bravest Warriors, Balance of Power, Hex-a-Gon, and Ergo. Yes, at least a couple of those are dead, but that's a shitton of games, if you're allergic to hard numbers; certainly enough to say "they probably spent it on something else".

Given how often people accuse CGL of being poor businessmen, I don't know why it's so hard to believe that maybe they spent it on something that didn't pan out (not to mention that no one here is in a position to know the prodit margin or production numbers on the box set to guarantee they made a ton of money on it in the first place). It's not exaclty unprecedented in any industry. For RPGs specifically, offhand I know West End Games went under despite their main RPG line (Star Wars) doing great; ventures elsewhere sucked up all their cash and broke them.

>>52695341
You got the timing wrong though.

2007 (5th edition), 2009 (reprint), 2012 (25th anniversary), 2014 (current)

>>52695372
I fucked up the order in the middle but you get the picture.

>>52695372
i don't understand what you are saying

the difference between the 2014 and 2018 printing is the same difference between the 2012 and 2014. both require new plates. the 2007, 2009, and 2012 printings should have all used the same plates. so your point that new plates needing to be made is moot... empirically there is no link between plates used and time between box.

>>52695475
Except they did make new plates between them. They changed manufactures and got a lot of flak from the fanbase for making new metal injection molds without updating the sculpts used at all. I know I was pissed.

>>52695509
wait, they made new plates between the 2007 to 25th anv? thats news to me and really dumb to boot

>>52695363
>>52695238

CGL makes entirely too many products, and nearly all of them are shit.

BT
>what makes the most money and should be prioritized

Shadowrun
>what makes the second most money and should be prioritized

Shadowrun Encounters
>shit

Leviathans,
>dead (sorry NEA)

Cosmic Patrol
>dead

Valiant RPG
>shit

Valiant Deckbuilding
>shit

Vikings,
>shit AND dead

Jarl,
>shit

The Duke,
>OK, I guess

Wrath of Dragons,
>shit

Paiko,
>shit

Bravest Warriors,
>shit

Balance of Power,
>shit

Hex-a-Gon,
>shit

Ergo
>shit

They absolutely are terrible businesspeople, and we'd be better off with literally any gaming company, up to and including Palladium, running the show. At least Palladium actually releases the core materials necessary to play the fucking game and keeps them in print.

>>52695585

The plastic type change necessitated new plates. They were dumb not to update the sculpts and/or to insist on better-quality detail on the plates (and better-placed injection channels), but there WAS a good reason for getting new plates for the 25th Anniversary set. The original plastic was a complete cockup, and the 25A plastic was much, much better.

>>52695585
>really dumb to boot
It really was. All we got out of it was a slightly different plastic that wasn't as shitty and slightly less flashing.

>>52695622
Funny, there was a thread on the battletech subreddit arguing the same thing, one of the rebuttals said this:

"The thing that would hang me up on it is who would want to buy the rights to a board game series that is ancient, convoluted, based around thirty year rulesets, tied by circumstance to Harmony Gold and only played by a small but dedicated group of grognards who will start screaming the moment you touch the construction rules?"

>>52695654
>>52695648

i dont think the change happened at the 25th anv. that's the one with the hammerhands on the cover. the one that had the change was the one with the mwo-ish atlas on the cover. unless there was another change i was unaware of...

>>52695895
Yes it did. Don't make me get my shitty plastics out because I own both those sets.

>>52695953
so they changed twice then. at least

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Crap ass replacement for an Atlas battle bump

I'm curious to know what types of music define the BT universe (or a single faction/Unit) to you guys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Che00FhqXQg - Could be Grey Death Legions theme song, for example.

>>52697999
But but it totally melted the Atlas to slag in its big showdown! M-muh fluff!

It's a poorly designed trash can. I like the idea of a 4/6 100t, but not like this.

>>52698068
Good question. A parallel question would be what kind of music does anons play when they host games.

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>>52698118
And this piece of shit killed a Jenner, a Dragon, a Panther and an Awesome all at once in the fluff.

Fuck that old secret blakist, Mckinnon.

>>52698196
Are you sure there wasn't a footnote somewhere saying it was helped by an Urbie-nuke somewhere?

>>52698196
And don't forget one AS7-D can supposedly take on an entire battalion of Stingers and walk away for repairs an hour later with one Stinger left mobile.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUz4DP2vpB0 the entire clan invasion. /discussion

I just found XTRO: Boondoggles. It's like they wrote a book about every time I tried to design a mech from scratch!

>>52699440
The stats or the fluff or both?

>>52699440
Bit of both, nothing seems to work out. Usually I end up with something really anaemic or really uninspired.

I'm really happy with most of my refits though, I tend to just change as little as possible to fit mine and the mech's style, like ripping the AC/10 off the Orion and putting a 20 on since it already has Med Lasers and SRMs with the same range bracket.

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Does megamek have any active servers around?

>>52699989
Don't know about the servers, but now you have me imagining a Banshee and a Battlemaster each with a tree in their hands sword fighting.

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>>52698196
>Fuck that old secret blakist, Mckinnon.

>>52698118
A Cincy player and I recreated that fight a few years ago at one of the big games. I had the Grand Titan and I wiped the floor with his Atlas. It's about skill and finesse, which is why I can see it being one of the mechs assigned to the Marik's knights early on. It's one of those mechs that is a rapetrain in the hands of talented pilot and a trash can in the hands of others.

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>>52700119
Blake. Heh.

>>52698196
>>52700119
>introducing a couple new guys to BattleTech
>get to the fluff
>give rundowns on the houses
>collective yawns
>get to comstar and especially word of blake
>suddenly interested

What is it about technoreligious cultists that revere Terra and don't have issues with war crimes that draws so many new players in?

Fifteen years ago it seemed like you couldn't pay people to play blakists.

>>52700223
Maybe because it sounds like a hilarious mess of the Imperium going full Cleanse Purge Kill and the Admech saying "Why not?"

By comparison German Noble House, Japanese 'noble' House, English?! Noble House, PURPLE BURD and SNEAKY YELLOW CHICOM aren't all that exciting. Call me a grog but the clans aren't much better, they just seem like different flavours of asshole, rating from mild and sometimes cool to Jade Falcon Anal Fissure.

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>>52700038
I don't have a banshee or battlemaster on hand but I do have a berserker. I hope you like it.

>>52700322
Clans?
https://youtu.be/vK3pbyP-57A?t=94

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>>52700372
Seven thousand hours in MSPaint. I love it!
Someone here posted a pick of, I think, a Cyclops or other assault weight mech picking up a tree in MegaMek and smashing into another mech with the tree breaking. I wonder where the hell that pic is.
Now I wonder if something as heavy as an Atlas or Berserker could wield a Wasp like a tree and swing it at something. Not the arm or leg, the whole mech.
I need some Pharaoh beer badly.

>>52700702
If you could grab a severed limb and start swinging it, that would be neat. Glad you liked it.

Is there a rulebook reference to units being displaced off the board (like by a charge or push or whatever)? I need an actual page reference, but I can't find one.

>>52700702
>Now I wonder if something as heavy as an Atlas or Berserker could wield a Wasp like a tree and swing it at something. Not the arm or leg, the whole mech.
If it had TSM on, it could theoretically do so, yes

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>>52701345
BERSERKER RAGE, ACTIVATE!

Hi, I'm interested in making an Islamic themed mercenary force from the Mosiro worlds of the Free Worlds League.

For flavour I'm looking for any mechs, aerospace fighters, battle armours and tanks with Middle Eastern or Islamic name influences.

For starters I've got the Dervish and Assassin.

>>52701641
Mandatory plastic explosive and improvised explosive device vests for both all pilots, vehicles and 'mechs.

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>>52701641
Hot babe art on the sides of all your military equipment of 9-year-olds.

>>52700223

Gamers (especially gamers under 30) tend to work in some flavor of IT. ComStar is the Inner Sphere's IT department. WoB is the Inner Sphere's IT department after repeatedly getting shit on by customers and management and finally get to take revenge on the people who CLEARLY don't appreciate them.

It's gamers living vicariously through their factions. Nothing new under the sun.

>>52701641
There's the Saladin and Saracen hovertanks, but I can't think if anything aerospace with an appropriate name

>>52700223
>What is it about technoreligious cultists that revere Terra and don't have issues with war crimes that draws so many new players in?
Became they're basically the 40k memeperium in battletech, and many new players are former or current 40kids

>>52700223

It's probably due to a lot more people being openly racist these days, what, with the religious right screaming deus vault all the time now and it's seen as more acceptable. Word of Blake is the closest thing to let them play out their pathetic fantasies because Aziz did nothing wrong.

A few years ago people would have given them the side eye.

>>52702047

Most of the imperium players these days are like what >>52702108 says.

>>52702008
Scimitar. How could you forget the third in the Scarborough trio?

Not sure that there's any good aeros, after looking through the list on Sarna.

>>52702047
Salty

>>52700223
I like the style on their unique Omnis

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>>52701732

Oh. Oh fuck. Oh christ I think you're right. I specialize in network connectivity and I main Comstar, and when I'm mad about something at work I almost always go for WOB stuff. I had a client try to implement a firmware update that took down a huge portion of their network (70-something devices), I came back from the first 10 hours of repair work on it yesterday evening and I decided to switch my planned game over to WOB on MM this weekend. I think that every time I've played WOB that I can remember, it's right after something goes terribly wrong at work.

Christ. I have to go rethink my life or something.

>>52701655
Actually by the 31st century it's the secularists who are the big terrorists.

>>52701731
Wat

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Well Mohammad was all into Aisha and she was nine...

>>52702812
>Blakism
>Secular

I hate this retcon

>>52702108
I actually like Comstar more then the WoB, but I guess that's because I think the actual Blake was a pretty cool guy

>>52702839

It's an Islamic-themed force, anon. Muslims are pedos, which is why they're allowed to marry 9 year olds.

>>52703077
WoB is real Comstar though, not Fochtstar

>>52702839
Pesos all across the Islamic world love using the fact that their founder married a nine-year old in a political deal as an excuse for their own greasiness

>>52702629
See, I work in IT as well but I've never played a CS or WoB force except when I'm having to run an antagonist for a friend's game or something.

The closest my IT skills come to tabletop gaming is that I typically play Deckers in Shadowrun. Which due to my background in sysadminning and infosec means I can come up with many, many creative ways to piss off my GM.

>>52703077

Yeah, I can get behind actual Comstar and the original Blake. WoB, though, can choke on their own nukes.

>>52703537
As a shadowrun GM with a cs decker, I hate you and your gm hates you.

What's the good fast light brawler to work well with the blitzkrieg? Not really familiar with Steiner lights/meds.

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>>52704180
Maybe try a Nightsky?

>>52702877
>>52703169
>>52703274
I realize being islamophobic is edgy and hip these days but please stop trying to besmirch the name of the prophet (pbuh). Muslim anons play BT and post here too, please try to be more tolerant.

>>52704305
It is impossible to besmirch someone with facts.

I'm none of those guys, and I cannot state with any kind of authority if they're facts or not. Just pointing out that if they are facts, then any claim of insult is null and void.

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>>52704305

>>52704180
>What's the good fast light brawler to work well with the blitzkrieg?
The only real answer to this is more Blitzkreigs.

>>52704305
Nice Bait

>>52704713
>>52704679
>>52704505
>everything I don't like is bait

Why don't you start talking about giant robots then?

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>>52703984
As an infosec person, I don't give a fuck and allow me to channel Linus Torvalds for a second.

My GM loves me, though. Because I know how far to push the boundary without being a total assbucket.

>>52705045
See if would have less problems if my decker was like you. But no, he has to berate me on my lack of system architecture knowledge. That's why every thing he hacks has black ice.

>>52705209
That's the mark of someone who's bad at their job. Most good sysadmins and infosec people I've met want to share their knowledge.

I don't view me hoarding knowledge of how everything works as job security. If the company wants to shitcan you, they'll shitcan you. Having other people able to do my duties means I can actually take vacations and not get bothered during them.

>>52701641
The Scarborough trio, for one. Scimitar, Saladin, and Saracen.

>>52704795

Because every possible topic about giant robots is ALSO bait.

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>>52704305
Read this...
>>52704505
>It is impossible to besmirch someone with facts.

Don't read this. Also I did a campaign years before 9/11 about rampaging muslims taking mechs and stuff and trying to jihad people. This was after I had undergone a multi-year lecture series in real life from a black guy warning about said problems. My players... fucking loved it. The final kill? A guy in a Mad DOG with cobbled IS weapons cooking an enemy with multiple flamers and infernos (player was crazy) causing an ammo explosion with a failed PSR killing the last enemy pilot. Cause hell yeah!

So do the bots for different factions have separate behaviors or do they just all run on the same Princess settings? Should I bother adding different bots for units?

>>52700223
They're the closest you can get to space Knights/Templars in BT. Sure Marik has Knights of the Inner Sphere but they don't have a focus on Arthurian themed mechs named Galahad and Excalibur and Black Knight etc.

>>52707218

Not really, it's pretty much all the same. You can customize princess's behavior though, if that's your style.

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>>52685872
>Bushwacker

Huh... I guess there's only one 'h' in "Bushwacker". I still don't see how it utilizes the Griffin chassis. They look nothing alike.

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I thought this was something Comstar related until I read the text.

>>52708446
People care about the new SW movies after the trainwreck that is TFA? I'd almost take Kevin Anderson, Legacy of the Force, and the Vong over the new movies.

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>>52708474
>tfw no movies about Wedge Antilles and Rogue Squadron, or Kyle Katarn's adventures

>>52708536
Antilles got cashiered in the new novels for diversity hires, anon. There will be no Bacta War, and no transparisteel legs.

>>52708474

TFA was far, far better than the entirety of the EU. Every single bit of the EU should have been excised from human knowledge, up to and very definitely including the Thrawn novels and KOTOR. The only good Star Wars was Ep. 4 and 5, roughly the second halves of TFA and R1, about half (in parts) of ROTJ.

Every other piece of Star Wars media has been complete shit.

>>52708625
This

>>52708550
Stop, please.

>>52708625
>>52708652
Both me. But challenge me on it and I'll show I'm a master of mspaint :)

>>52708625

To be pretty honest, this.

The vast majority of the EU has been fanfic-tier power wank, as epitomized by the TIE Defender (which slaps on ALL THE GUNS because "it'll be cool") and by lightsabres suddenly being powered by magical RPG power-up crystals, which are so mundane that somebody (Corran Horn) can make a lightsabre crystal out of *paste* and it still works.

I'm rather forgiving of TFA specifically because as far as I'm concerned, TFA was Disney proving that they understand and can replicate the major thematic beats which make Star Wars movies passable. As the first line of the movie states, "This will *begin* to make things right." Begin. Then Rogue 1 proved that they can make an original story while still generally respecting what came before, and while the story wasn't strictly necessary and could have been described in a short paragraph during the ANH crawl text, it wasn't BADLY put together. It's nowhere near as terrible as even the best of the prequels.

TLJ will be Disney's chance to tell a genuinely original story using proven thematic beats (combining the lessons learned from R1 and TFA), and THIS will be the movie where they succeed or fail. Give them a chance to actually fuck everything up forever and ever before we proclaim to the heavens that Star Wars is ruined and nobody should ever like it.

we /swg/ now

who cares about giant fuckin robits when you got motha. fuckin. lightsabers.

>>52708728
>tranny faction advocate also makes sweeping statements about the EU

Stick to aerotech and telling con stories, man.

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>52708728
Shit talking the Defender? You don't get a (you).

>>52708822
Incorrect, my giant robots need lightsabers.

>>52708835

>my giant robots need lightsabers

I'm in.

inb4 we give HG another reason to sue

>>52708728
>hates the EU for endless off-brand death star+generic imperial leftover plots
>likes TFA even though it's literally just one of those plots but on film
You're drunk NEA, go home

How well would the Star League at its height do against the Galactic Empire?

Could an Imperial Star Destroyer take out a Leviathan?

>>52708831
>>52708835
>>52708868
NEA only "likes" TFA because he's a huge nu-male feminist who thinks shit like the gender wage gap is real.

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>>52708625
>>52708652
>>52708681
>>52708728

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>>52708894

here we go again

>>52708894
>who thinks shit like the gender wage gap is real.

That was a couple years ago. He's probably learned better.

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>Playing Pirates, Clan Invasion
>Begin on Star's End with general Periphery RAT mechs being mostly light/medium, only significant one being a Thug 10E
>Start with Guerilla Raid as per AtB rules
>Enemy Clan Wolf
>Shit forgot
>First mission is Extraction
>Ok, hopefully it will be mostly vehi-
>All second line clan mechs
>Shit like Mon-66b and Star League Wyverns
>Pray by Grimm's shiny dome we can somehow clinch it by one or two mechs
>Didn't look at conditions, start match
>Vacuum
>Move Thug in
>End up breaching almost all there mechs
>Lose two mechs, no personnel, and capture one wolf pilot
>mfw
Pirates are fun

>>52708876
>How well would the Star League at its height do against the Galactic Empire?
They'd get completely rolled in a couple of weeks
It's just a scale thing. The Star League is a major power on getting on for a thousand worlds, versus an empire of a millions, and the SL also has a hilariously underscaled military because FASAnomics.

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>>52708868
I AM home. I'm watching hockey playoffs (mostly watching the Blue Jackets get hammered and a fight after the end whistle). You're right on the drunk thing, though. Fuck you, it's Friday night.

As for the EU vs TFA: there's a difference between TFA ripping off the plot once, and the EU doing it for 20 years straight. Especially when one of the interviews prior to the movie coming out said that they deliberately played it safe with the story and thematic beats.

If the TLJ starts ripping off the same stuff (or if it's even as close to derivative as TFA was), then yeah, as far as I'm concerned I'm done with the Disney movies. But I'm willing to give them a few films to get their eye in before I start whinging that they're terrible and should just give up and kill themselves.

>52708894

Try harder. See all-purpose kitty pic. No (you) tonight.

>>52708997

I don't ever remember even *intimating* that, here or anywhere else. Care to remind me? I'm not even seeing that as bait - I'm just confused. I don't recall ever talking IRL econ here except as it pertains to CGL's ineptitude in general and Levs in particular.

>as far as I'm concerned, *if* women get less money, it's because of a combination of them being bad at asking for raises, being willing to work for less in the first place, taking time off for family, and generally studying subjects that don't pay great. That's not a theoretical wage gap that legislators can do anything about, and so they shouldn't be trying legislative solutions to "fix" it.

When did a mech factory on New Syrtis open? Or was there always one?

>>52709549

Johnston Industries opened on New Syrtis after the Fourth Succession War and significantly prior to the Clan Invasion. That's all the info we have, IIRC. Mid-to-late 3030's is a reasonable estimate.

>>52709474
>and the EU doing it for 20 years straight.
Dude, the superweapon of the week power creep books were 95% all released from 1994-98
The Clone Wars animated series did it a bunch more recently, but that's completely seperate from the old books

>>52709582
Hey NEA, last week I asked you about introductory aerospace scenerio suggestions, anything going on that or did it turn out to be too NDA'd?

>>52676204
WHAT

Tried customizing mechs in the mekHQ meklab today, really annoyed how you have to make a whole new design and save it rather then being able to "jury rig" them with the parts you have. Are they thinking at all of changing how it works?

>>52709621

He's talking about the whole eu, not just the books. Kotor and Kotor 2 were both superweapon of the week plotlines, as were the Dark empire comics, all the way up to the Vong bullshit. Stop nitpicking. Yeah I think his stance on the Disney SW sucks and they should lose the IP, but the EU was the same 3 or 4 plotlines from 1991 to 2010. That's 20 years close enough.
1, threat to the galaxy only the Skywalkers can beat
2, one of the movie characters has a problem
3, something is internally wrong with the new republic
4, force bullshit

>>52709725

Skywalkers don't win the Thrawn Trillogy. Thrawn was betrayed by his own bodyguard.

Disney is literally rehashing the worst EU plot lines and pretending they're better somehow.

Please take the StarWars bullshit to /swg/. I came to /btg/ to not deal with the post-FOX/WEG Lucas+Disney fuckups.

>>52709662

I'm still waiting to hear back what the NDA status of any QSR materials which were worked upon are. To be honest, I don't expect to hear back. Partially because it's me, and mostly because CGL is incompetent.

Put an email into the email field, if you don't mine.

>>52708474
Rogue One was actually pretty good.

Shame it didn't actually involve Rogue Squadron.

>>52709725
>Kotor 2
>superweapon of the week

The mass shadow generator is barely relevant in the grand scheme of things.

>>52709965

Go back to Warmachine General, tripfag. Nobody wants you here or cares about your wrong opinions.

>>52709813
Alright. QSR would be cool but aren't a huge deal, it's more just scenerio suggestions

>>52709965
are you the same crix that got banned from the living legends discord for calling a moderator a nigger?

>>52709765
>Please take the StarWars bullshit to /swg/.
Actually, please don't
Take it to /tv/ instead, please

>>52709991
Never played it, retard.
>wrong opinions

>>52710049
Didn't get banned, I just left.

>>52710071

Say what you want about needing to take Star wars dicussion somewhere else, at least there's something new to talk about regarding Star Wars. What's new about battletech? Another Touring the stars?

>>52710092

Yeah, the guy with the trip of a warmachine faction name (Crix) and hasn't ever played it before. Sure. Get out, tripfag.

>>52710102

Katrina Steiner is a whore!

>>52710092
sure you did. just wanted to make sure I was adding the right idiot to my ignore list here.

>>52710139
Oh no another little baby redditor

>>52710121
Do you mean Cryx? Are you pretending to be retarded? Because it's working

>>52710102
The last release was a TtS and a Spotlight on Stone's Trackers, IIRC.

>>52710102
We could have a design contest or talk about AUs or hunt down and mock terrible battletech fanfiction or come up with a new bandit kingdom or have a fapfic writing contest to see who can write the best victor/Katherine incest, really we just need to talk about OC since that's all that's happening right now with battletech

>>52710131
Be nice shes trying

>>52710191

Trying to choke on everyone's dick, yeah!

>>52710216
Well you aren't wrong

>>52709991
He's right though.

>>52710186
Speaking of BT fanfics, have you read "Blue Skye Dreams"?

It's actually pretty goood.

>>52710354
The technical writing isn't bad, but it is literally just a rerun of the phelan kell story but with somebody's OC.

>>52710216
>everyone's
You mean Victor's.

>>52710870

In her defense, he IS part Steiner, and there IS nothing finer...

>>52710186
>have a fapfic writing contest to see who can write the best victor/Katherine incest,
I mean, I'd be down for that, but a design contest is probably easier
Anyone have any ideas?

>>52711034
>Anyone have any ideas?
In the 3030s the FedCom wants a new tank design that reuses all the 380SFEs they're tearing out of Banshees
Design one

>>52711120

...you do know that a tank with a 380SFE has to be a 95 ton, 4/6 tracked vehicle and has a total of 18 tons left for turret, payload, and armor, right? The fucking engine and associated systems weigh 77 tons.

>>52711199
Yeah, it's gonna be a shit fucking tank. I want to see what people come up with under such retarded conditions

>>52711199
Not who you are replying too but, it'll be such a good fit as a OG banshee Vee. Undergunned as hell but fast for size and not worth it.

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>>52711262
Gift of the Magi, but worse.

>>52711262
>95t 4/6
>10t armor focused forward.
>6t infantry bay, 4 VGLs, 1 ML.

Built to ram shit like buildings then disgorge shock(ed) troops.

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>>52711120
Fuck your tank.

>>52711581
You want a real shock? Use tanks as hidden units up multi-storey buildings.


Just as I'm about to leave for work I think of making a 10 storey tall building filled with assault tanks and then whittle down its structural integrity. I'll make a Behemoth Atom Smasher.

>>52711581
Sounds niche as hell but fun! That's probably one of the coolest ways to build it and one of the best. Nice idea anon.

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missile thread
>>52712930

>>52711694
lol

>>52711199
Sounds like a Drac tank.

>>52676079
How do I get into this game?

>>52708728
>TIE Defender
>EU

Go home, you're drunk.

Srsly.

>>52717832

TIE-D was part of the EU. Came about in the Tie Fighter video game and made it into supplmentary materials. It was relegated to Legends status with all of the other EU stuff when Disney took over. It was made canon not long ago by SW Rebels, I think.

In the context of what NEA's talking about, the EU as seen in the 1990s and early 2000s, the Tie Defender was very much part of the EU. It didn't appear in the films, radioplays, scripts, or film novels, and therefore it wasn't canon.

If you're going to criticize somebody, know what you're talking about. And also, a fighter with more guns than some ships 20 times its size is pretty mary sue tier. 4 lasers, 2 ion cannons, 2 missile launchers, a tractor beam projector, a mag pulse weapon, shields, hyperdrive, and engines second only to an A-wing on a ship with less internal volume than an X-wing is pretty fucking mary sue. It does everything better than ships that are specifically designed to do one specific thing. Imagine an 8/12/12 heat-neutral 100-ton Mech with TSM, 4 CLPLs, a Targeting computer, and max tonnage stealth armor. It's bullshit. The Tie-D is the same way.

>>52717289

Start by asking in the new thread.

>>52718696
>Came about in the Tie Fighter video game
If ya can't tell the difference between "EU" and "AU" then you really got some issues.

The TieD's from a video game made by Lucasarts, not from a novel. It's clearly AU material, but it didn't originate from the EU material.

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>>52719024

My only regret in posting this image is that I can't post a middle finger to go along with it.