Age of Sigmar General ! /aos/

Best way to build seraphon that
>Is low model count
>has no skinks

>>52527809
Pretty easy.
>Don't use skinks
>Use few models.

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>>52527778
>off by one

I don't think so op

Spooky bones #1 so far

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>>52528070

>>52528091
Looking spooky, anon!

>>52528091
A good start! Only missing shadings and highlights.

Can't find the SoH rules for GM-ing and such, checked the Mega and everything. Is there anywhere to find it? I heard it's great for improving ST and such, and am pretty interested in utilizing it.

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blood bowl amazon AoS army when

>>52528129
That's next. Throwing nuln onto everything but the bone, the ushabti and screaming skull on the bone, oxide on armor, and a very light drybrushed bark on the shield

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>>52527778

Anons, I got a problem! The wording of Moonclan Netter is weird, seem that -1 is stackable! Is that true, -3 to hit?

>>52528292
I'd use agrax and nuln oil, you get a nice, dirty, grimey look to the metal. Use typhus corrosion if you have it, too.

>>52528271
Never. Amazons are beyond squatted.

>>52527837
I am starting Seraphon and I do want skinks.

How good is the start collecting box? I know it is a great value but is it actually good? The command abilities for carnisaur seem meh, the saurus knights are meh, do I want saurus warriors or saurus guards?

If I bought the start collecting where should I go from there? A box of skinks and a bastadon? Do I need a Slaan? Engine of the gods any good if I am playing with points?

>>52528377
t-they could be revived

;_;

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I don't know what army to play, /AoSG/.

What do you guys like and why?

>>52528398
Box + Chameleons is the standard start.

>>52528442
Pick Stormcasts

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So since I've finally finished Durthu I figured i'd start on something else.
I have more than one Wych model and having two characters that look identical is unacceptable.

is slaanesh 100% written out of AoS or are they bringing him back at some point?

Can Chaos do a strong, low model count elite army that isn't Archaon and his Fuckboi Brigade?

>>52528518
They will tease people about Slaanesh returnin eternally

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>>52528518

>>52528518
Probably when Aelves get attention.

But we don't really know.

Slaanesh's dudes are still around, at least.

>>52528456
Chameleons seem great. I would probably convert them from regular skinks though.

But how are the units that come from the box? The saurus knights seem lack luster and I think a carnasuar may not be the best.

>>52528518
We don't know, and Slaanesh's daemons/mortal servants don't either.

Slaanesh's disappearance literally caused a Slaaneshi civil war to spring up, with several greater daemons clamoring to attain godhood and mortal champions seeking to outdo each other in depravity and sacrifice.

>>52528465
Why?

>>52528640
So they have mentioned he existed at one point, but disappeared, and still has followers?

Just trying to get the lore straight, because I thought AoS was a complete blank slate reboot of WHFB, and I was under the impression they just completely ignored slaanesh from day 1.

>>52528664
One of the strongest armies, actual army in terms of units variety, basically protag of the setting

>>52528667
Nah, man. Teclis, Tyrion and Malarion (Malekith, new name), now gods, got together and kidnapped Slaanesh when it was full of Aelf souls.

Emptied out the souls and brought back as many of them as they could, and then locked Slaanesh somewhere that no one knows and can't find.

We have no idea what the fuck's going on back there beyond that. No attention to it yet.

>>52528680
>basically protag of the setting

Don't care for this point, but the others sound alright.

Mite b gud.

>>52528699
>Nah, man. Teclis, Tyrion and Malarion (Malekith, new name), now gods, got together and kidnapped Slaanesh when it was full of Aelf souls.
Well technically it were elves souls from which aelfs were created.

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>>52528804
Start a blog already

>>52528329
that wording suggests it is not stackable.

>>52528818
Fuck off, Anon.

>>52528830
Only after you attentionwhore

>>52528858
Spoop, now with teeth

>>52528804
Looks good anon, ignore the asshat.

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>>52528858
Spoop, now with teeths

But seriously, I've got 39 more of these buggers.

>>52528804
Oh boy, I care almost as much as that first pic of you painting a mini that the meme used to be "Spray With Skull White, then Wash with Devlan Mud." This is almost worse than the Chaos Dwarf fag, because while his painting is mediocre, it's an interesting model.

Take it to WIP if you are that fucking hardwired to get your sense of self-worth from the reaction of anonymous faggots on a Tibetan sand painting forum.

>>52528892
>Tibetan sand painting form

I thought we were a Mongolian cave painting forum?

>>52528892
>Mongolian cave painting forum

I thought we were an Uzbekistani Goat Hair Weaving forum?

>>52528906
Meant for you. >>52528922

>>52528885
>But seriously, I've got 39 more of these buggers.
So the perfect reason to start your own blog

>>52528819
>wording suggests
Really? English isn't my 1st language, but we think that within a [something], mean stackable. If we are wrong, can you give us an example, thx anon.

>>52528955
It says "within two inches of a grot with a net" not "within two inches of each grot with a net"

It doesn't stack.

>>52528954
I was just proud because I finally figured out thinning my paint.

>>52528994
>within two inches of a grot
I'm not sure about, is that enough to persuade our group, thx anyway.

>>52529026
Ignore him, seriously. Guy bitches at anyone that posts a WIP.

>>52528518
The fact that slaanesh gets mentioned surprisingly often in the little AoS lore we have fills my hopes, you also see alot of Aos artworks with slaaneshi Daemons as well as slaanesh armies in the little pictures in stuff like the GHB. If they were to retcon best god they wouldve just stopped mentioning them completely.

My Theory is that Slaanesh was only put to sides during early Aos worldbuilding because GW was on the brim of bankruptcy before AoS and to avoid controversies (as AoS aestethically is aimed more at children than WHFB was with sigmarines and shit). This is also why there is such a massive fucking Khorne wank going on because Khorne has been turned into a Shallow Hur-dur Kill Maim Burn StupidEvil. And Blood and Gore in media is socially acceptable whilst implied sexual themes arent.

However now that GW is in a much better financial spot we might see some love for Slaanesh soon. Just keep whining like the SoB people and maybe we'll get a plastic KoS or a new Sigvald (or a replacement for latter) [spoiler ]in like 5 years[/spoiler]

>>52529037
It's not just one person. Surprisingly enough, some people don't give a shit about someone panting one out of a hundred skeletons.

>>52529036
Talk to a GW rep then. But I'm telling you it doesn't stack.

>>52529072
You obviously care enough to be mad at him about it.

>>52529036
Rule of 1. special rules with the same Name do not stack

>>52529040
>GW was on the brim of bankruptcy
Not even close.
>However now that GW is in a much better financial spot we might see some love for Slaanesh soon.
Nah

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>>52528885
Good spoop anon. Try and have fun with them! I still have 100 of these little fucks to paint. I find just doing one to four a night keeps me from burning out but that's just me. Point is go at your own pace and try to enjoy it

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>>52529163
Could be worse.

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Anyone know what colours I'd need to paint this, GW's line.

>>52529163
Yeah, I'm trying to do one box of skeles a week for the next month, but idk since finals start in two weeks.

>>52528256
Anyone? Please?

>>52529036
it is worded to be read that any model within range of any netter grot gets this debuff. all the time anywhere. two or more grots nearby only satisfies the condition of being near a grot with a net

who knows if that was inteneded but that is how it is written

>>52529036
Sorry, but it's true. The reason to run multiple nets is just to expand the penalty zone to be able to net an entire enemy unit.

>>52529284
Hm, can still do this fairly effectively in AoS instead of Fantasy. It even comes out clean at 2000 points.

Allegiance: Destruction

Leaders
Moonclan Grot Shaman (60)
Moonclan Grot Shaman (60)
Grot Warboss (80)
- General
- Moon Prodder & Giant Cave Squig

Battleline
9 20 x Moonclan Grots (120 each)

Units
8 3 x Grot Fanatics (90 each)

Total: 2000/2000

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>>52529570
Even I'M spooked by this

Why are all the Goblin things in resin?

I want gobbos. I fucking hate finecast.

What do?

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>>52529570
M O O N C L A N

>>52529570
Eh, on second thought, I'd want to push out more of those Grots to 40-man units for the buff.

Leadership remains the same, but make it 5 units of 40, each with 4 Fanatics lurking inside. Your Grots aren't as flexible due to the lumps, but you actually gained 20 of the bastards in exchange for some Fanatics. 223 grots on the table.

The Moon Man Moon Klan is numerous. The Moon shall rise again!

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>>52529697
>Moon Klan
kys

>>52529735
Only after lynching every digger in the Realm of Metal.

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>>52529802
It's what you were put on this Realm to do, boy. From the moment you picked up your Moon Shield and pulled up that pointed hood, your path was clear.

Hi /tg/ I'm looking to get into Sigmar and have a question about army comp. No, not "which army should I pick" or "create a list for me", my question is about unit cohesion.

Say I have a box of Liberators, is it better to build them all with the same weapon, or am I completely gimping myself by mixing it up (2 of this 2 of that and a prime of something). Everyone wants to build their own special snowflake radical dude army, and I just would like to gage general opinion on unit cohesion and variety in units. Is a group of 5 dudes with 5 different weapons viable or will I be complete trash. I don't care much for a full on munchkin meta army (obviously) but I don't want a 100% chance to lose just because I wanted to mix it up either. Sorry if this is a stupid question.

tl:dr - What's the line I can walk on unit variety without crippling myself, or should I concede to 1 weapon groupings?

>>52528531
Nurgle Rotbringers
Tamurkhan's Horde avoiding the actual horde
Slaves to Darkness cavalry
Khorne Bloodbound juggernauts (also works with above cavalry added in)
Clan Skyre with mostly Stormfiends

>>52529965
Just stop. You're not funny. You're not witty. You're not clever.

Are Seraphon + SCE decent in an army? I wanted to do 1k of both

>>52530021
Yep. Though probably not as good as a pure army of either.

>>52530021
>Are Seraphon + SCE decent in an army?
Nope

>>52529985
Most units to have outfit themselves with the same weapon. It's rare for one to be able to mix them, and off the top of my head I can only think of 3. I wouldn't say you would cripple yourself by mixing, but personally I think it's best for a unit to be dedicated to one purpose, and mixing kind of goes against that. Although it's worth noting that the units that allow you to mix don't come with enough of each weapon for you to kit the whole unit out the same way, so you don't really have a choice unless you buy a few boxes.

>>52530130
Thanks! So an example would be:

-buy 2 boxes and use them as 2 weapon groupings

-buy 2 boxes and have enough of the weapons worth mixing to create 1 mixed unit and 1 weapon grouped unit

Something like this, aye? I'm thinking of going with Celestial Warbringers as my crew.

>>52530021
AoS is all about Buff Synergy, so taking allies only is viable when youre using them to fill a niche you really need filled.

SCE are pretty Mary-Sue in which they have like 30 Units (which is only 4 less than the ENTIRE range of Death-Units) The only thing they do not have is a Tarpit Horde Element which you could use Empire Flagelants for.

Both Seraphon and SCE are good Armies on their Own but if you mix you lose a lot of potential synergy which will water it down

>>52530183
>Mary-Sue

The fuck do you think this means, Anon?

>>52530183
>>52530127
>>52530037

I'm just going to run it anyway with models I like.

>>52530183
>>52530021
You can combine Sylvaneth with SCE.

They have a warscroll battalion for that.

>>52530017
MOONCLAN MOONCLAN CAN'T YOU SEE
SKAVEN AND ELVES NEED TO HANG FROM TREES

>>52530196
That they can do everything and better than anyone else, in the fluff as well as on the tabletop

>>52530423
Lies, on both counts. We've been over this.

>>52528425
I just hope they're not squatted for Blood Bowl. I'm converting Witch Aelves and other Dark Elf/Eldar models into a team of them.

>>52530175
Well stormcasts don't have any unit capable of mixing weapons, so
>-buy 2 boxes and use them as 2 weapon groupings

>>52530442
>Lies
Probably he talked about old armies, but it's still invalid.

>>52530495
Ah! That solves that hahah. Once last question if you all could. What about the Prime's weapon? They have access to some pumped up gear right? Thanks so much for the help already given, straightens up a lot of indecision for me.

>>52530442
>Lies, on both counts
>like 30 Units (which is only 4 less than the ENTIRE range of Death-Units)
Yeah sure

>>52530542
Each unit gets access to a special weapon which can be given to anyone in the squad. Most people give that weapon to the prime because they either get an extra attack, or bonus to hit. Though for some, like paladins, you wouldn't want the special weapon on the prime since his bonus's wouldn't apply to it.

>>52530423
>t.Empire player

>>52530585
Count the individual Units its pretty close actually

>>52530643
Yeah but Death also have TomCangz who OOP
Not to mention it's only one actual army in AoS right now.

>>52530602
Cool! Thanks so much :)

>>52528442
I play what I though was cool. I played Beastmen in WHFB, and I still play them in AoS just becuase they are cool, but now in AoS I also had the chance to expand my army with more models I like, so I started going into Nurgle deamons and Rotgbringers

>>52527778
The battletome for disciples for tzeentch is broken, anyone got another link?

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not 1 model jpg of it

>>52530585
Both counts being best at everything "in the fluff" (1) and "on the tabletop" (2).

Not literally the count for 30 units.

>>52530770
You told 'em boy.

>>52530770
wtf I hate Age of Sigmar now

http://www.strawpoll.me/12641373

What's your alliance, guys?

Hey Anons, does anyone of you have the old magewrath throne with the fucklarge skulls? I need it in my life. Also looking for 5 blood warriors, as the other faggot who wanted to send me some did never send 'em. EUfag here btw

>>52530852
Well they literally saved the day and they are only one battletome who have actual amy (not 3-6 units)

>>52531045
>saved the day

Partially. Kind of. Sort of.

>>52531065
They were only faction who managed to end Age of Chaos

>>52531078
Yep, still not saved. Just beat chaos back in some places and heralded the start of a new age.

Day not saved, Archaon and the Chaos Gods still a huge threat.

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>>52531045
>Well they literally saved the day and they are only one battletome who have actual amy
Fuck off Ivan.

>>52531081
>Yep, still not saved.
Nope they literally prevent destruction of Mortal Realms.

>>52531002
>Destruction under literal boneheads

FUCK THIS

>>52531187
>Day not saved, Archaon and the Chaos Gods still a huge threat.

>>52531209
>>Day not saved,
Day was saved, at least now MR have a chance.

>>52531230
Not really. If anything, fighting back has put the realms in even MORE danger, because it gave Archaon a reason to come back and finish the job.

>>52531251
Dude Archaon's plans how to destroy Mortal Realms were almost finished and only Stormcasts invasion ruined it.

>>52531091
Where exactly I am wrong?

>>52531202
>37% Chaos
>21% Death
Wow, people on 4chan prefer the edgelord factions, who would have thought so.

>>52531306
Tzeentch and Khorne also got army-wide Battletomes. And actually Tzeentch got it before Sigmarines. Just fucking stop lying.

>>52531280
Perhaps I'm wrong, but didn't Archaon leave? And only come back when the chaos gods asked him to?

Anyone got any ideas for how I can make my Bloodhound "mydudes" struggling to think of anything to make them interesting.

>>52531390
Look at how I made my dudes, maybe that can help you?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DleJ7guokNXxnsKZX7hu-vjRa0Hw4edANjkYRwm0PDY/edit?usp=sharing

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>>52531390
I'd drop the red-brass colour scheme and replace the retarded looking Khornate helmets to more oldschool WoC/barbarian-like aestehtics.

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>>52531390
>Khorne army
>Struggling to make it interesting
How strange

>>52528922
The correct adjective is Uzbek

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>>52531390
There was a dude that had the idea of a Roman Theme Khorne army.
It was a seriously cool idea, but he never even started as far as we know.

You can inherit that idea, we would love to see such an army.

>>52531390
Paladins.

Crazy as fuck Paladins.

>>52529284
I remember that army which was just skeletons upon skeletons ad infinitum

Why would anyone agree to move from the sci-fi utopia of Azyrheim to a shithole like Hammerhal? That would be the analogue of a black American fucking off to Liberia.

>>52531369
>Perhaps I'm wrong, but didn't Archaon leave?
Nope

>>52531342
>Tzeentch and Khorne also got army-wide Battletomes.
Yeah like Khorne daemonkind army.
>Just fucking stop lying.
Says typical SCE fanboy

>>52531671
Blades of Khorne literally covers every Khorne unit in the game right now.

What are you even trying to argue Slavshitter?

>>52531671
Is it okay to report this guy? I did it, but got a warning because he's not technically breaking any rules

>>52531697
Nah, he is still on topic. If he uses /pol/ buzzwords, then you can.

>>52531690
>Blades of Khorne literally covers every Khorne unit in the game right now.
So it's basically just mix of two armies, Khorne daemons and mortals.
>What are you even trying to argue Slavshitter?
Shitskin please, stop fixated on my personality.

>>52531705
It's a combination of Mortals, Bloodbound and Daemons.

>>52531756
So basically like Khorne Daemonkin for 40k

>>52531671
I'm a Destruction fanboy, but nice try faggot.

>>52531756
>>52531705
Stop arguing with him. He is moving the goalposts after being called out on his lying.

>>52531705
And the latest SCE battletome is a combination of two previously separate tomes. It's the same thing. But by all means, keep trying. It's pretty amusing.

>>52531814
It has literally the same Blood Tithe mechanic, so yes

>>52531704
You can't really make pol-tier shitposts about GW games, 40k is the wet dream of /pol/acks and WHFB/AoS lacks serious SJW influence. I've only seen /pol/posting in Malifaux generals, but they have became very progressive recently and their community is full of tumblrinas and numales so it was pretty much justified.

>>52531705
>Shitskin
Gotcha, hope this is /pol/ enough to report this fucker

>>52531841
>on his lying.
Where the fuck I've lied?
>>52531890
>and WHFB/AoS lacks serious SJW influence.
>story about how social utopia with equal rights fights against ebil tyranny

>>52531890
But muh girlcasts

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Rat tank!!!!

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>>52531890
>You can't really make pol-tier shitposts about GW games
I can

>>52531402
I like the look of your Gouge-horn Ragtuht! Really neat conversion.

>>52531920
This is called "parasite engine"

>>52531932
Thanks, it wasn't really that hard, I just change the head on the bestigor

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>>52531572

>>52531910
>story about how social utopia with equal rights fights against ebil tyranny
Well, Chaos is as AnCap as it gets, but I doubt Sigmar would be so tyrannical that he could be called evil.

>>52531961
>, but I doubt Sigmar would be so tyrannical that he could be called evil.
Nope Sigmar is a good guy who building space state of equal rights for all genders and races.

>>52531968
Another case of bullshitting. Don't you have anything better to do with your life?

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>>52531390
Found this unit on the ninth age forum a while back. Would be really neat to see a similarly disciplined Khornate-army for once.
That or make them celts.

>>52531983
>Another case of bullshitting.
Why?
But actually I just kidding about it.

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>>52532038
>That or make them celts.
Bonesplitterz took their niche.

Age of smugmar

>>52532058
No reason you both can't share it. Do I really need to call mom over?

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>>52531983
>case of bullshitting.
Sure m8

>>52532186
Diablo2 was also a very progressive game, it had a black Paladin as well.

>>52532223
Was the paladin reary black or just tan?

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>>52532186
Khorne bloodbound had black dudes from day 1.

>>52532186
They really shouldnt do this they are just asking for trouble pandering.

>>52532223
Except paladin was a single hero, not a regular soldier in multicultural, multiracial, multi gender army

>>52532244
Nah, he is black. But it's justified, because his church was in a jungle.

>>52532263
The Zakarum were like some indochina asian/aztec hybrid society not black.

They actually added a proper black area in 3 with black characters. Its one of the most realistic depictions of black cultures ever.

>>52532038
It's got a neat conversion idea. Cut off the 'wings' and use them as crests. It wouldn't take much work, and you'd have double the amount of crests as you'd have heads, more than likely.

>>52532258
If they'd have used black dudes in the Empire back in WHFB days I'd kinda agree, but I see nothing wrong with it in AoS, SCE came from multiple kingdoms. Also black skin is easier to paint.

>>52532292
most realistic depiction of black culture is 50 cent blood on the sand.

>>52532299
I don't have an issue with people painting their minis anyway they want but I think they are wise to avoid it altogether they actually got away with not being attacked by just sidestepping the issue.
They will soon find their brand overrun with blue haired trannies asking for more representation and writing hit pieces on them at this rate.

>>52528885
Niiiiiice

>>52529997
i hear that stormfieds are good but don't you have to build them with the right weapons?

>>52532299
>SCE came from multiple kingdoms.
WE

>>52532346
WUZ TOMB KANGZ

>>52530021
SCE are top tier
Seraphon are high tier
Mixing them together makes you lose all the synergy and bonuses that make them good in the first place

>>52532320
Thats fantasy.
Real black culture here youtube.com/watch?v=9gI6fA6SeNA

>>52532341
they are preeeetty good yes :) But the box include only 1 set of weapon. I've built mine with the ratling guns since you have 3 of them in the pack. If you want a full Waprfire projector team, you have to buy 2 boxes (not a problem if you are running Skryre only)

>>52532363
More like
STORM KANGZ

>>52532341
Maybe you can magnetize them? Haven't touched the kit so maybe some other anon can weigh in.

>>52532460
yeah magnetize is an option, the kit is quite friendly with this option imo. But the real problem is you dont have enough warpfire projector to give at least one by Stormfiend. There is :
- 2 Warpfire projector
- 2 Mortar
- 3 ratling (one is smaller)

& for melee its the same thing :
- 2 Grinder fists
- 2 Shock fists
- 3 drills

>>52528885
>>52528804
Don't hold it in your hand when you take a pic.

>>52531650
It's a frontier into new and mysterious realms. Humans have done that plenty of times.

>>52532647
>>52532460
>>52532341
Magnetising is quite easy. I've done it, and there's and excellent guide for it.

And taking 3 with projectors is a quick way to lose your friends. Mortal wound spam is already something that Skryre does quite well, making that worse won't make the game more fun for anyone.

>>52531572

Ooh, I do like romans. Lot of 28mm space marine roman bits I can use too.

>>52532881
>It's a frontier into new and mysterious realms
It's actually fronttline.

>>52532973
True story :D I only play the projectors when someone bring the cheese. Ratling guns are great, especially vs big blobs of infantry.

I've never tried the melee options tho, any tips?

>>52532881
Yes, humans who lived in inhuman conditions or risked death and torture for their beliefs. None of this exists in Azyrheim.

>>52533220
A lot of the humans in Azyr are the descendants of refuges who came to Azyr to escape the onslaught of Chaos. A lot of them with to reclaim their homelands and exact revenge on those that took and defiled them.

Then there is a fact that Azyr won't be safe for long if the forces of Chaos were allowed to do as they please.

Then there is the fact that greed can factor into this. New opportunities for acquire lands and wealth in the recolonisation of the realms.

What are you saying is the same as asking why would the JEWS leave the saftey of Europe and America to head back to the Middle East where everyone hates them

>>52531650
>>52533220
One of the few good things I took away from City of Secrets is that there seems to be some religiously motivated manifest destiny amongst the mortal followers of Sigmar to spread their god-king's rule across all the realms. Might have something to do with it.

Another thing CoS implies is that there's a highly stratified class system at work in Azyrheim. Maybe the Azyrheimers who leave are the ones who genuinely think there are better opportuntiies elsewhere.

>>52533285
>sigmarIDF confirmed

>>52533285
>A lot of the humans in Azyr are the descendants of refuges who came to Azyr to escape the onslaught of Chaos. A lot of them with to reclaim their homelands and exact revenge on those that took and defiled them.
Yeah because so many arabs returned to Syria...

>>52533384
The people of the Mortal Realms were driven from their homes as refugees thousands of years ago. The people of Syria are being driven from their homes right now. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.

>>52533401
9/10 it's the dumb slavshitposter.

>There are no new units in the army, but two of the Bloodbound units have changed slightly and their points have changed as well. The Bloodreavers now have a 6+ save instead of having no save. This means they can no benefit from cover, Mystic Shield, and any other save buffing rules. They have also gone up to 70 points, so not a huge bump. The Khorgorath has also gone up in points, to 100, but its close combat attacks now do two damage per attack.

>bloodreavers cost 70 now

Da fuck

>>52533432
FINALLY, A FUCKING 6+, THAT IS ALL I HAVE EVER ASKED FOR.

>>52533432
Source?

>>52533401
And why would they leave prosperous sci-fi society in large numbers for some mediavel-like wasteland?

>>52533515
Because said medieval wasteland is their ancestral homeland and can be remade into a better society?

>>52533515
Because SIGMAR VULT

>>52533537
>and can be remade into a better society?
And where it was showed?
Hammerhal doesn't looks like it was builded by high advanced people from Azyrheim

>>52528091

I actually like that he's dark. Would love to see him on a very dark base for contrast and a whole mob of them would be spoopy as heck!

>>52533597
>Thinking one example of a city in a game where each realm is infinite in size is proof
Your sample size is low and your standard deviation is massive. Objection discarded.

>>52533662
>>Thinking one example of a city in a game where each realm is infinite in size is proof
Well wasn't Hammerhal one of the first city builded outside of Azyrheim?

>>52533597
People aren't rational actors. Just because there aren't any Azyrheim 2.0 settlements yet doesn't mean that people will stop re-settling in the hope of spreading society.

>>52533700
If so, so what? Doesn't prove that there aren't any actually nice cities, and it definitely doesn't prove that the pursuit is pointless.

>>52533661
Check him out post highlights. I like the more bleached bone look, but I was tempted to leave him dark.

>>52533662
If each realm is infinite in size, why bother leaving Azyr? Just keep walking in a given direction until you find somewhere new to live.

>>52533763
Because ancestral land is a thing. People aren't rational actors, and plenty of them probably have deep cultural ties to specific areas outside of Azyr.

>>52533597
And yet pilgrims went to America, even though it was a barbaric frontier. We don't need a reasonable explanation for this in a Heroic High Fantasy universe.

>>52533821
Pilgrims were a religious minority.

>>52533809
10/10 great argument.

>>52533821
>pilgrims went to America
economic conditions were abysmal in Europe for the working classes. The government had draconian oppressive laws. If you could scrape together enough cheddar to pay for a boat trip (and survive 2 or 3 months at sea) then you could claim a huge piece of high quality land that would make you, or at least your descendants, rich (assuming you survived).

But the Pilgrims probably were not poor. They were wealthy-ish and were trying to get out from under the governments rules about practicing their particular flavor of Christianity.

this is AOS related because... their are people leaving sigmars space station to colonize the mortal realms that may or may not be doing it for reasons that could be considered similar.

>>52533921
Not everyone who moved to the US to settle it was a pilgrim. Plenty of US settlers were motivated by the idea of establishing trading posts or getting access to unspoiled natural resources.

Alternatively, religious fervor for Sigmar is a thing. RETAKE OUR CELESTIAL LORD'S HOLDINGS IN THE NAME OF THE HAMMER is as good a reason to settle as any.

>>52533921
You are retarded. People, especially young males who lack opportunities and wives at home are always driven to conquest, war etc. It's even present in the modern world, why do you think third-generation Muslims and white converts from Western Europe are joining ISIS?

>>52533821
>And yet pilgrims went to America,
Yeah but they builded actual cities, not medieval-like
>>52533809
>Because ancestral land is a thing.
But there were shitton of millenia before, I mean none of us don't want to move in Africa today

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>>52534061
>None of us want to move to africa today
Well like, we did heavily colonize Africa, and continue to use the resulta of that colonization to make money back home, so....

>Yeah but they builded actual cities, not medieval-like
Not really. A lot of the pilgrim towns were of the "shitcan peasants farming and dying of cholera" type until well into the 18th century.

>>52534022
>RETAKE OUR CELESTIAL LORD'S HOLDINGS IN THE NAME OF THE HAMMER
Could you post any actual citation to confirm it?

>>52534047
>young males who lack opportunities and wives at home are always driven to conquest

how sure are you that they are not driven to become anarcho-capitalist trump supporters and white nationalists?

joke, don't kill me.

on topic: aren't the SC drones slaves to sigmar's will and will go wherever and do whatever he wants because he turned them into Necrons?

>>52534061
Pray do tell what the fundamental difference is between a city and a "medieval-like" city? Aside from commodities.

>>52534095
A citation of mortals being religious and following stormcast out of azyr?

"
As Sigmar's Tempest rolls across the Mortal Realms it is the Devoted who follow closest in its shadow. Throngs of Flagellants bless the ground with bloody feet and chanted prayer."

The entire "Devoted of sigmar" faction are made up of mortals crusading in the name of sigmar.

>>52534061
Hammerhal isn't all a shithole actually. The main focus in Shadows Over Hammerhal is on Cinderfall, which is stated to be a run-down, economically depressed part of Hammerhal Aqshy. Hammerhal itself is a city that covers an area the size of a continent and spans two realms - Hammerhal Ghyran is mentioned to have huge beautiful gardens, for example.

>>52534113
No, the SC drones are effects of Nagash stealing bits of their soul each time they die, and no stormcast survives being recast more than three times.

Sigmar is pissed as fuck about Nagash's theft but he doesn't have the means to make him stop yet. The whole point of the Lord Relictors in fluff is to try and mitigate Nagash's ability to pilfer souls.

>>52534092
>Well like, we did heavily colonize Africa,
But not because of "muh ancestral land ".
>"shitcan peasants farming and dying of cholera" type until well into the 18th century.
So just as Europe small towns and villages and Hammerhal are largest city outside Azyrheim (it's actually larger than modern megapolises), such settlements are always becoming centres of science and infrastructure.

>>52534125
>A citation of mortals being religious and following stormcast out of azyr?
Nope about religious colonization

>>52534154
>Sigmar is pissed as fuck
maybe he should have thought about that before he made an army of Necron warriors out of the mortal realms best heroes.

who could have possibly predicted that Nagash might try to mess with that plan?

>>52534171
Africa pisses me off because of how it's just going to waste thanks to retarded African governments. By resources alone, Africa should be the most prosperous and wealthy part of the planet but instead it's an aids infested shithole filled with people that learned nothing from the Europeans that gave them technology.

>>52534192
"Religious colonization" was a hypothetical reason why someone might want to to leave Azyr. We already know there are vast armies of religiously motivated mortas crusading around the mortal realms, so I don't think its a stretch that they'd form cities.

City of Secrets, as I recall, had the city being used as a staging area for Freeguild and Stormcast forces in the area, including a detachment of Devoted of Sigmar.

>>52534192
Stop shitposting Ivan. You are worse than all the Death circlejerkers.

>>52534220
like the undeveloped backwaters of the mortal realms in AOS. The point of destabilizing the African continent is to make sure its resources go undeveloped until such time as the West (Sigmar) decides to swoop in and "save" the Africans from their bad leaders so we can take all their stuff.

no point in letting Africa develop... itll just waste everything so no one else gets to use it.

>>52534218
Hence why Sigmar is actively trying to mitigate or downplay Nagash's ability to steal souls.

Just because you can expect Assholetep to be an asshole doesn't mean you can't also be pissed at him for being an asshole.

>>52534171
Yeah, we colonized it for economic means, which I explicitly offered as a potential reason. Try to keep up.

>>52534244
>We already know there are vast armies of religiously motivated mortas crusading around the mortal realms, so I don't think its a stretch that they'd form cities.
Yeah okay, I get, but why would they build shithole instead of small copies of Azyrheim?
>>52534245
Lolwut I've just asked for citation.

>>52534286
But unlike Europe Azyrheim is huge it have enough resources to create Stormcasts legions, megapolises, space stations etc.

>>52534326
Vast armies of religiously motivated zealots =/= learned city planners and scientists

It doesnt take a genius to build a bunch of shitcan hovels and till the soil.

>>52534286
And there were a huge supply of young men who wanted to go there, kill other men with different skill color, fuck their women and take their trinkets as souvenirs to get a military promotion or just to have fun. I have triggered a leftist friend of mine when I told him that I entirely understand the colonizers motivation and would have done the same if I lived in that age.

>>52534342
Right, but this is a high fantasy setting were people trade in magical materials that can only be found in other mortal realms.

City of secrets, for example, has the city trading in bottled magic prophesies that they harvest from a magic crystal soire the city is built around.

Its not unlikely for, example, residents of fire to trade in magical flames or rare ores, or for residents of life to sell all kinds of magical herba and plants.

I want /pol/ to leave, why the fuck drag in modern and historical immigration and integration into a fcking heroic fantasy game about murdering dragons and glorious conquest.

>>52534355
Okay, so why would none of that apply to mortals in Azyr? There are wandering tribes of human savages to rape and plunder and olenty of land to exploit.

City of Secrets even has like, fantasy racism with natural born Azyrites looking down on humans from other mortal realms and seeing them as inherently chaos-touched and inferior.

>>52534349
>Vast armies of religiously motivated zealots =/= learned city planners and scientists
Yeah but since they didn't lost connection with Azyrheim (like Long Night in 40k) why such large city didn't attract scientists from and other professionals etc who would build a modern infratructure.
>>52534384
>high fantasy setting were people trade
Wut?

>>52534415
>Okay, so why would none of that apply to mortals in Azyr?
leave life on a magic space station safe from all the bad things in the universe, living out your life as an artist or whatever.
OR
Move to some backwater undeveloped mortal land and try not to die while you scratch out a short life with the sweat of your brow.

I don't know anon, what would you pick?

>>52534428
>this hasn't happened yet, therefore it will never happen
Shit logic pls go
We're looking at fixed points in a setting that takes place on the order of millennia. Just because a town is a shitcan hovel city at this point doesn't mean that it can't improve in time.

>Wut?
In age of sigmar, a lot of the settlements in the mortal realms trade things that you can't get outside of that specific area, like magic bottled prophesies or magic plants from the realm of life.

>>52530492
You can still play Amazons in Blood Bowl just fine.

https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/blood_bowl/teams_of_legend_en.pdf

Their roster is in that pdf GW released shortly after the game relaunch.

>>52534455
Has said area been cleansed by the magic armored supermen who can kill whole tribes of mortal barbarians by looking at them funny?

If so, no reason not to settle and make some succulent Azyrbucks, or pay some other people to settle it for me. No reason why a sufficiently rich Azyrite couldnt pay some poor dudes to settle in the realm of life and send him back a cut of the profits.

>>52534463
>Just because a town is a shitcan hovel city at this point doesn't mean that it can't improve in time.
Yes of course, it's jsut stupid because largest cities would be the first who should looks more like Azyrheim.
Fuck I hope when they will reveal Freeguild, Highborn, Dark exiles and others they wouldn't looks like current Empire, Elves and dwarves, this shit just looks out of setting so much.
>trade things
>high fantasy
Yeah sure

>>52534415
Of course it applies. Just some faggot can't accept that sitting and rotting away in a comfortable megapolis is a good way of life for everyone if you could go out and fight for some noble cause or just to get ahead in life.

>>52534514
>Yeah sure
Inter-realm trade is canon, and if AoS isn't high fantasy, the term is meaningless.

>>52534533
>Inter-realm trade is canon,
Where except city of secrets?

>>52534504
>pay some poor dudes
I thought Azyrheim was socialist/communist?

Why would there be "poor" people when you can just "magic" a loaf of bread and a bottle of wine?

>>52534543
>Where except city of secrets
Don't need anything more. Black Library is canon, and if multiple fleets of traders are routinely coming to the city from other realms to trade, there is at least some degree of inter-realm trade.

>>52534527
>sitting and rotting away in a comfortable megapolis
rich people problems

>>52534544
There are canon examples of aristocracy, unwashed masses, and trade empires.

How many unhelmeted heads come in the SCE boxes? Normally I really dislike painting faces on my dudes, but I absolutely can't stand the halo things on all their helmets even though I really like the rest of the minis. Are there any FW or Third party heads that fit them well?

>>52534606
Generally just one per box, its on the same sprue as the prime, so the ten man boxes come with two since they just double up on the sprues from the five man boxes.

>>52534606
I don't think they actually have unhelmeted heads except for one in the Vanguard box

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It's Tuesday, guys. Guess what that means!

>>52534669
Do want!

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I can't be bothered to post the shit that's already been leaked.

>>52534660
The palladors and hunters both have an unhelmeted head on the prime sprue.

>>52534606
Stormcast heads have the same scale as marine heads, but you have to trim down the neck plugs.

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Look at that Gorecleaver.
Do note that all Bloodbound models are also Mortals.

>>52527809
Knights are your best bet for low model count, guard are glass cannon af and just melt when confronted with big rend or mortal wounds, warriors you'll need tons of and I wouldn't call warriors a low count army choice cause they're best in units of 20+. Take the firelance starhost, a bunch of knights,and a scar vet on carno and maybe a few skink heroes and you'll have a very mobile, very killy, low model count army that can go toe to toe with most armies

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I know jack shit about Bloodbound, so somebody else compare prices.

>>52528442
Seraphon! They've got some awesome models, and are super fun to play in both matched and free play, although they were nerfed real bad by the summoning rules in the ghb. Great fun to paint for anyone who likes painting lots of big monsters

>>52534754
since this doesn't say anything about one adornment per battalion am I right in assuming that unlike the items for mortal guys there's no limit on these ones?

>>52534589
>There are canon examples of aristocracy, unwashed masses, and trade empires.
WTF. I mean holy shit why would it's exist in sci-fi utopia it's just didn't make any sense

>>52534863
>Sci-fi utopia
It isn't one. Hence the existence of aristocracy, racism, and unwashed mobs of insane flagellant peasants

>>52534812
blood reavers went up 10 points due to the save they got now

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There's a page limiting that for all relics and shit.
Also, don't be a moron.

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Sorry, >>52534905 was meant for >>52534838.

>>52534688
>>52534660

That's a huge bummer.

>>52534705

This is good to hear, though. I have a ton of spare Space Marine heads without helmets. I'll just paint the bionic eyes as monocles or something and say the re-breathers are some kind of Sigmartech megaphones for shouting anti-Chaos propaganda.

>>52534838
Keep in mind this book is for all 3 ways to play.
The limit on items is in the Generals handbook, so once the GHB 2 drops, I assume it will still limit the items for matched play.

>>52534889
>It isn't one.
>megapolises
>space station
>shitton of free land

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>>52531650
>>52533220
>>52533311
>>52533515
isn't there a possibility that there is a fair size of azyrheim population that live in favelas style overcrowded slums ?
because with all the refugee, since it's a flying city you don't have a lot of rooms for extension
this would explain why people would emigrate in masse from azyr

>>52534953
>because with all the refugee, since it's a flying city you don't have a lot of rooms for extension
It's not Azyrheim

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>>52534342
economic disparities maybe ?
the USA are rich as fuck, have the strongest military and high tech guns, but there is still a good part of the population who live in poverty

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Bone-zone post Kharadron Overlords?

Pic related.

>>52534683
>Immense Power on a bloodthirster
Oh gosh

I gotta run, so I'll do the warscrolls later.
The one thing I noticed is that the Mighty Lord can only unbind a single spell per phase anymore.

>>52534735
Bloodsecrator just got even better, wow

>>52535147
Thanks anon

>>52535147
Thanks for posting it so far

>>52534947
>advanced society isn't a utopia, does not compute
Azyrheim is cool but itisnt a utopia. Sigmar has the powers of a god, but hes still a shitcan barbarian froma medieva era.

>>52535080
>economic disparities maybe ?
Setting gigantism.
Okay they might need some special resources from other realms, but universe-huge realm should be enough of basic resources especially for sci-fi civilization

>>52534812
I think the Bloodsecrator is cheaper now? He used to be 160 right?

>>52534926
If you want a more wild look, there are stormhosts from the realm of beasts that you could use space wolf heads for. Not a lot of rebreathers or bionics there.

>>52534901
the hell ? marauders got a 5+ for free !
damn it GW !

>>52535216
>Azyrheim is cool but itisnt a utopia.
And where is was stated?
>but hes still a shitcan barbarian froma medieva era.
Nope

>>52534905
We Destruction now.

>>52535253
Unfortunatey, there is a landed aristocracy that isn't necessarily going to allow every mortal in azyr to get access to those resources.

>>52534963
have i been lied to ?
always thought it was
then what is it ?

>>52534905
>khorne bloodbound with rampaging destroyers
Bretty gud

>>52535276
If it has aristocracy, racism, and hordes of unwashed insane peasants, it by definition isn't a utopia.

Also yep. Sigmar established an Empire before, and it was not an egalitarian utopia. Why would Azyrheim be any different?

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>>52535315
Cuz space stations

>>52535259

That would be great, but I'd need to find somewhere to buy the space wolf heads separately. I down own anything other than vanilla SMs.

>>52535347
the imperium of man has soace stations, is it a Utopia?

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>>52535373
Are you suggesting that the glorious dominion of the god emperor of man is imperfect, anon?

>>52535160
remenber that they can't move when they use the blood portal, which added to their slow movement is quite problematic
>slow melee army

>>52535372
Bitz sites, m'bro

That, or ebay. The sprues from the Orks vs Wolves box had a shitton of spare heads

>>52535254
nope
got the general handbook, he is still 120pts

>>52535434
Well Guilliman said so, so yeah? Gonna blam the lord castellan of the imperium?

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>>52535373
Because I think we both know what that would make you.

>>52535467
#notmyemperor

>>52535445
>slow melee army
Not any more

Goretide son

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>>52535493

>>52535285
>Unfortunatey, there is a landed aristocracy that isn't necessarily going to allow every mortal in azyr to get access to those resources.
Any proofs, also, it's doesn't makes any sense again.
>>52535292
>then what is it ?
Sigmarion
>>52535315
>Why would Azyrheim be any different?
High tech, Lawful good alignment, countless millenia of technological and social progress?

>>52535520
if it has abilities akind this >>52534905
, gladly

>>52534953
>>52535292
It's Sigmaron, which is Sigmar's fortress where he forges and trains the Stormhosts.

Fo Seraphon have any personality or is it still all basically robot dinosaurs who only exist for one singular purpose?

Brosef, if you're just going to deny all the black library evidence, you're not worth arguing with.

>>52535554
I think they've been shiwn talking all of once, but they do feel rage and are capable of tactical planning, and the Slann/Skinks are still capable of independent thought and worship.

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>tfw pestilens is now the single worst battletome army.
>tfw I started with them

>>52535556
>black library
Even writters said that their books aren't 100% cannon

>>52535455

I'll hit up the vast internets for heads then. If i use the SW heads. all I need to do is slice off those redonkulous looking ponytails and file the nubs down smooth. I'm looking forward to this whole thing now. Thanks for the heads up, brosef.

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>>52535347
screw sigmarines

>>52535585
>Single worst
Don't worry, there are others in the shit tier/meme army bucket. You have company in your mediocrity.

>>52535373
>the imperium of man has soace stations, is it a Utopia?
Ultramar is utopia

>>52535585
so don't be mono.
Either
A) Get some chaos mortal and deamons all nurgle since you share the same keywords

B)Get some skrye, get some assassins, get a lightning cannon.
Make it all the skaven clans

>>52535596
>Asking questions about deep lore
>Ignoring the primary sources of non-BIG GUY HITTING OTHER BIG GUY lore

>>52529026
> look mom I can thin my paints!
Still looks like shit

>>52534812
Unless I'm missing something, the Bloodreavers are the only units in the game at a number of points not divisible by 20. Kinda odd, but I only run them in batches of 20 or more so no complaints here.

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>>52535632
I have 100 painted monks, two painted furnaces, a painted verminlord, 2 painted priests, and a painted skrolk

>>52535629
Not even, Ultramar is constantly under attack from chaos and 'nids, and still has a lot of the Imperium's fascism. It's just less bad than other places. A citizen of Ultramar is still able to be conscripted into the IG, purged for wrongthink, or taken away by the black ships to serve as throne fuel.

>>52535660
Oh, and three painted plagueclaws

>>52535672
Missing the point of his post

>>52535660
Play other shit tier armies. You're not below average by those standards.

>>52535672
>Not even, Ultramar is constantly under attack from chaos and 'nids, and still has a lot of the Imperium's fascism.
It's literally desribed as utopia in rulebook

>>52535585
You deserved it.

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>>52535585
>playing only pestilens
why

>>52535713
Vermintide make me get into warhammer right when pestilens start collecting came out

>>52535691
Then the term is being misapplied or the author is being hyperbolic.

As mentioned, Ultramar is canonically under constant attack and is still beholden to the Imperium's fascism.

It might be a utopia in comparison to some shithole hive planet where they flush nuclear waste into the hab blocks, but its not a utopia in any meaningful sense.

Advice for starting Wanderers? Those models look cool as fuck

>>52535651
K

>>52535585
just wait for the updated battletome or "turds of nurgle" bt.

>>52535537
>>52535548
if this is just sigmar's fortress, then azyrheim must be really hugeeee
though that doesn't goes against my main argument, a city this big must have tons of people living in misery or just having shitty boring live, so that they want to get eaten by my bloodhounds

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>>52535660
So? You can still add to it.
Step 1: Get Orghotts Daemonspew (command abiliy = Select a NURGLE units (hint: anything in your army including your Vermin lord), reroll all failed wound rolls
Step 2: Get a 2 boxes of blight kings for coolness and killyness

Once the Nurgle battletome comes out it will get even better for you.

>>52535660
Pestilens will get a good updating when the nurgle battletome comes out soon. They'll be probably as good as new kbb if not better.

>>52535730
I would suggest that you start with a box of Glade Guards and a hero, just to get you started

>>52535655
Giant rats are 30 points per unit

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>>52535760
>turds of nurgle
>turgle

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>>52535651
>mfw this asshat is still here heckling the same post from 10 hours ago

>>52535725
>Ultramar is canonically under constant attack
Nope, only twice it was under attack.
>It might be a utopia in comparison to some shithole hive planet where they flush nuclear waste into the hab blocks, but its not a utopia in any meaningful sense.
It was described as utopia compared to the rest Imperium
>>52535730
>Advice for starting Wanderers?
Don't do it.

>Disciples of Tzeentch
>Blades of Khorne
>Turds of Nurgle
>Squats of Slaanesh