Pathfinder General /pfg/

>>52426327
Mostly honorable but naive.

I'm a faggot who can't read, here's your opportunity to explain sphere casting to me in all the detail you want!

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>>52426327
>nobles and royals
And between different characters.

>>52426393
But how will you read our explanation then?

Anon posted

>Critical Genius stacks with keen

Where is Critical Genius?

>>52426494
It's when you roll a nat 20 on an INT roll and solve a Millenium Problem while trying to remember who the third King of your country was

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Sixth for the Veskarium

>>52426527
You're 7th reply, 7th poster, or 8th post if we include OP too.

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>>52426527
They missed the chance to make them best science.

>>52426550
Yes. I know. Someone posted a few seconds before me. Fail on my part. Vesk are still best. You're still autistic.

>>52426584
What do you mean?

>>52426595
The Gorn in Star Trek don't eschew education at all; they basically match the combined races of the federation for science and ship design. The Klingon Empire is basically *their* big dumb friends (even though they tower over klingons size-wise)

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post for me your "heaviest" builds. Your lumbering warriors, your stomping heavy hitters. Spellcasters need not apply. All 3pp is allowed.

>>52426713
Can I interest you in an AUTISM fighter?

>>52426713
Does it count if I just dipped Bard to be able to get more gains from a PrC?

>>52426327
I know they're not fucking anime characters.

Are there any "neutral" paladin archetypes/classes? When I first heard of the grey paladin I almost jumped for joy for the removal or expansion of character alignment. Then I read the archetype in full and it kind of just sucks.

I just want to play a neutral paladin or a paladin that can skirt both sides of good and evil to get the job done. Even a Paladin of Nature or something like that. Even the antipaladin has lawful evil archetypes so it can do some neutal/good stuff in pursuit of evil.

Like for example, a good paladin that is willing to "enhance interegate" an enemy for information and not just automatically fall.

>>52426750
>The good guy class won't let me be an asshole
What you want is to play a Cavalier--it's got the exact same schtick of "knightly warrior with a code of conduct", you can even have it be based on faith with the right order.

If your only goal as a Paladin is to find a way to not play a Paladin, you need to take a step back and ask yourself what you actually want and why.

>>52426750
You can't be a Paladin if you're not going to be Good basically 100% of the time, that's the entire point. The Antipaladin is to the Paladin as an Antihero is to a Hero, they're not the literal opposite.

>>52426783
>the Antipaladin is to the Paladin as a Villain is to a Hero
FTFY
Seriously, if you're going to be obligated to be evil, why make any bones about it? Just have fun with it and tie some damsels to railroad tracks.

>look up character's name to be sure I'm not taking a poor namesake
>it's an actual name
>it's even appropriate to the region he's from
Wow, this is suspiciously auspicious.

>>52426744
Have you not been here for the past 10034830984938503840 threads of weeb Pathfinder OP images?

>>52426812
Not all of them are shit.

Some of the OPs actually manage to get in before the dweabs show up and post actual appropriate pics.

Rarely, but still.

>>52426821
>be on 4chan
>bitch about weebs
Are you the kind of guy who looks at Shogun 2 and screams WEEEEEEB?

>>52426812
I know, but there's weeb images, and there's weeb images. I'm cool with some big-ass eyes and stylized clothes if it at least looks like something appropriate to a fantasy game.

Something like this where it's just a little anime girl in a frilly dress might as well have "DELETE ME" scrawled on it in red.

>>52426750
What about a warpriest? That seems similar to what you are looking for. Kind of tanky, can heal, has spell casting like a paladin but can be neutral if you want to also.

Anyone else think this is the road to take?

>>52426836
Something something victorian setting

>>52426750
You might want to look into the Pact Servant trait, or check out Torag's paladin code; he keeps the faggotry to a minimum.

>>52426832
Shit, I'd be at least a little happier if OP's image was from shogun 2.

We've hit the point that we get our threads deleted occasionally because of the OP image, if that doesn't indicate a problem I don't know what does.

>>52426832
>how dare you not want wholly irrelevant pictures of anime girls in a thread about a game set in a fantasy medieval world!!

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>>52426862
Here, make the next thread with this

>>52426873
>implying I'm OP
The thing that seriously needs to stop with OPs though is the >page 5 xDDDD shit going on lately

>>52426393
YOU GET TALENTS AS YOU LEVEL UP

YOU SPEND A TALENT TO UNLOCK A SPHERE OR GET TALENTS INSIDE OF IT TO MAKE IT BETTER

YOU HAVE SPELL POINTS THAT YOU CAN USE TO DO COOL SHIT

MOST SPHERES HAVE THINGS YOU CAN DO WITH IT FOR NO SP AND WAYS TO SPEND SP TO DO COOLER THINGS.

That's the basic gist of it. caster level also stacks between classes like BAB does, and is also variable in growth like BAB.

Would I have a better chance at getting into Blingmaker if I made my character a cute girl?

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>>52426980
>make your character the King of Kings
>instantly get all the money in the world
>get booted from the game because you win

I'm trying to understand the point of the blaster armorist's tricks.

>Variable Barrel Geometry
Why not just use Charged Shot? It's a standard action, you'd have to apply the spellpoint cost of an applied shape either way

All the damage is based on class level
Does this mean you cannot increase it like you do the actual destruction sphere? But then wouldn't a normal destruction blast easily match a four-attack sequence by the blaster thanks to all the caster level increases available?

>>52427025
Because Variable Barrel Geometry sounds cool.

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Will the Blingmaker GM let us do BANKS BANKS BANKS?

Why the fuck is the art in SoP so unbelievably fucking terrible
It'd be better if they just took out the art entirely

>>52427030
Well it certainly sounded cool but in practice it just seems bad?

>>52426750
>>52426846
Are warpriest and paladin similar in terms of being a tanky, healer, damage guy? I mean they both heals, can boost their own damage, and can be tanky if built that way. Can anyone who has played a warpriest jump in and comment?

>>52427025
Blaster has some issues. I'm gonna have a crack at rewriting it at some point.

VBG in general is a bugbear of mine.

The basic difference though, is that Charge Shot is a standard and is 1SP. If the shape needs an SP, then you need to pay that too.

VBG is a fullround, and does the damage part for FREE while also letting you apply a shape.

So yes. Blaster has issues and they annoy me to the point I'm going to fix it.

Hey /tg/, so my character died.

He died running away, and without ever touching his opponent.

The DM didn't pull any punches. Rolled on the table, and I know the critter too. Nothing I or the only other player could do but watch.

Kingmaker, book one. Rolled up a whiptail centipede on the plains. It rolled a natural 20 for initiative, charged me, took a third of my hp and bowled me over.

The rogue tries to shoot it, but missed. I stand up, try to stun it, flub my concentration check, get whipped and knocked over again.

This was a level 3 character, dwarven forgemaster, with +10 vs poisons. I rolled two 1's, and a two against a dc 17 and the DM rolled max damage on the poison every time, and near max damage on each bite attack.

Ultimately it ate me, and the rogue was only barely able to get away.

Despite it being a cowards death, my friend survived so thats alright. I'll raise a mug to her health at Torags table. The dice were against me and thats okay.

The reason I'm wasting your time is... What do I roll now? I've looked at barbarians and paladins, wizards and rogues.

The DM is offering a +1 template as we're a small group, toughness as a bonus feat at first level as well as one additional bonus feat tied to our backstories.

What do I do? What do I play? I feel kinda lost. It was only 3 levels but I had invested a lot of... Creativity? Time? I guess feels into the character. Planning for the future that isn't there anymore.

It should be noted the DM has a crazy lady boner for dark or evil-esque characters. She would probably allow damn near anything of questionable morality provided I gave background for her to work with.

Bonus points if it could be considered an abomination against existence.

If its not too much to ask that is. I just feel burnt out right now.

>>52427070
Oh, and stat wise? Point buy at 25, for flat cost. ie, 15 is 5 points, 18 is 8 points and all stats start at 10.

Its just me and the wife as players.

>>52427033
Apparently so, but I'd be against that as a player because it's boring and there's no in-character reason that I'd want to do it.

>>52427085
>point buy at 25 for flat cost
I spy I spy with my little eye the potential for a 25 INT Wizard.

>>52427099
max chargen stat rules are in effect anon, it would be silly otherwise.

>>52427099
>>52427103
Though I guess at level 3...

18
+2 human
+3 age

where is the other +2 coming from?

>>52427103
Flat cost point buy is already pretty stupid though, because it means you can have literally every stat at 14+ very easily or 3 18s.

>>52427085
With points like that I'd want to play a monk regardless of their other flaws. 18/14/15/10/18/10 sounds fun.

>>52427111
I didn't know 18 was the max, although without a ceiling going for 29 is probably a better idea for dat +3 bonus spells

>>52427116
yup, but rules are rules.

>>52427119
o-ooh. Ah, monks are a particular diatribe of this DM. She isnt fond of them because I have a tendency to... Maybe over optimize monks whenever we play in different games together.

Last time I killed two ancient red dragons in one round leaping out of an airship. Its on the list of things I'm not allowed to do anymore.

>>52427132
I play the Munchkin card - shagging the DM.

>>52426750
Nightguard Paladin archetype from DSP's Lords of the Night. You can be any lawful, and your Code of Conduct becomes basically about destroying those who threaten the innocent.
You lose fear immunity and LoH/Mercies, but you get some minor stuff and Nemesis, which basically adds brutal debuffs to your Smite Evil amongst other nice stuff.

>>52427168
>going to fetish clubs
wew laddio

>>52427211
What fetish

>>52427211
Or the people with no prior experience perking up and asking engaged and intelligent questions about role playing because its something they've never done.

>>52427168
>DM is a qt3.14 trap tho.
Is your DM a boy or girl? Because trap means someone who looks like a girl but has a dick, and you refer to them with "he", not "she".

>Caught up with my roleplaying character in age
>I'm still not a master sorcerer
>Don't even have a living lizard tattoo crawling around my skin
Life is disappointing.

>>52427225
...which means...look does it have a dick or not? I don't know trans terminology.

>>52427234
Sorcerers are born with the power. If you're not a sorcerer as a kid you won't be one when you grow up.

>>52427225
herself as in "still a woman despite the change in clothes", or 'herself' as in "I demand you call me 'she' despite what I actually am"?

I mean even with the hormones... the whole 'identification' factor is supposed to indicate what parts are there, not what coat of paint you've added. Pre-op is not yet changed.

>>52427246
I'M GOING TO MANIFEST ANY DAY NOW, JUST YOU SEE.

Maybe I should get a lizard tattoo though, it seems like a decent time for poor life decisions.

>>52427263
It's a "he" then. A guy from Scotland isn't from Japan no matter how much he wishes he were, a guy with a dick is not a she.

>>52427257
Never a bad time for poor decisions, anon.

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>/pfg/
>fetish club and transgender general

Anyway back on topic
What are some good mass combat rules (as in between armies, not 4v4000)? I've basically been managing by having my players just tell me what strategies they're using and moving around Go pieces on a board and using DM fiat, but formalized rules might be nice

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Is Ungermaw any good? it looks like a good caster killer.

Hi, brand new here, so my apologies for my ignorance and naivety, but I must ask does anyone know of a good necromancer class for pathfinder that was made by the actual pathfinder creators, I want to play one but I cannot find a class made by the original Pathfinder creators due to my friends banning any non OG PF creator classes. : /

>>52427363
Wizard, with Necromancy as your specialist school.

Actually, Cleric or Oracle is probably a better idea, since their spell list gets animate dead and create undead earlier and they can get channeling to beef up their minions.

But really, your best option is to just fluff something else as being a necromancer. Undead are inefficient, harder to create, and more easily destroyed. Summoning is better if you want to control lots of monsters to fight for you--but I wouldn't recommend it to a newbie.

>>52427317

The anti mage capabilites only really come in at level 7. however Ungermaws seem like they'd be really good at locking down single targets.

>>52427363
What kind of undead? Spiritualist might fit the bill of you like ghosts, phantoms, what have you.

>>52427363
Good "necromancers" will never be core, sad to say. While it has been a long time since the D&D satanic craze, Paizo are still wary of it.

The one time they published undead skeletons that weren't evil, they had to pull them from the rulebooks because someone complained.

For a nontraditional necromancer look into Juju oracles, but actually animating dead bodies is still Evil.

>>52427435

>The one time they published undead skeletons that weren't evil, they had to pull them

When? Where?

>>52427363
>Wizard

>>52427435
>they had to pull them from the rulebooks because someone complained
What the fuck kind of faggots

Yeah I really wanna play a necro who isn't utter shit but any class I find my friends immediatly cry "OP if it isn't written by the original authors of PF." and wizard with necromancy as his specialization isn't great x.x

>>52427463
I have my DM's pathfinder conversion of the dread necromancer, but yeah your friends are going to cry foul.

>>52427463
>x.x
Stop doing this.

>>52427474
stop telling people what to do.

>>52427481
That's not how it works.
Not even him.

>>52427463
Ask your DM if you can be a Wraith, wraiths automatically raise people they kill as more wraiths.

Uhh ok? also thanks for the info, glad Im not still left in the dark on necro stuff, I'd go summoner but they're not as versatile as just having multiple permanent minions who will die for you.

>>52427493
>>52427463
Do you not know how to fucking quote or some shit?

>Summoner
>not versatile
Getta load of this guy
>>52427493

>>52427505
I mean their summons, not the summoner himself. His summons are usually just straight bodies to fight for you and thats it.

>>52427512
What could you not summon that isn't more versatile than a shambling corpse?

>>52427448
>>52427454
They were on the d20pfsrd wiki a long, long time ago. I remember them because I had an NPC I had that was going to be that race (a non-evil skeleton type thing) but when I went to look for the entry when she actually appeared in game, it was gone.

What is definitely gone is the Spirit Vessel Juju mystery:
Pre-errata:
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showsinglepost.php?p=13192443&postcount=11
>Necromancy spells that create undead lose the evil descriptor when you cast them.... When using the animate dead spell, you can control 6 HD worth of undead creatures per caster level rather than 4 HD. In addition, any zombies or juju zombies you create using animate dead, create undead, or similar spells possess maximum hit points.


Post errata:
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/oracle/mysteries/paizo---oracle-mysteries/juju/
>You can channel wendo spirits into lifeless bodies, reanimating them to aid you. When using the animate dead spell, you can control 6 HD worth of undead creatures per caster level rather than 4 HD. In addition, any zombies or juju zombies you create using animate dead, create undead, or similar spells possess maximum hit points.

Literally the only thing that was removed was "losing the evil descriptor".

>>52427535
Fuck that bullshit.
Alignments were always dumb as fuck anyway

>>52426327
>How do you play your nobles and royals?

Hopelessly addicted to raunchy sex parties

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How are you getting ready for your next session, /pfg/? How many spells do you need to prepare? How about potions and scrolls? Did you buy enough rope?

>>52428272
Well, Im the DM, so I'm looking up statistics for river monsters and thugs. I've got a oarty if cute girls and I can't disappoint!

Got any reccomendations for things that go bump against the ship? (Level 3s)

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Anyone happen to have the Scarred Lands PF book handy?

>>52425045
In theory, no, it shouldn't be. However, we also opted to try to buff the Warlock's trap options so that every choice was viable. As a result, we actually did need to playtest a lot of our changes, like Aether Channel - which is quite different from Hideous Blow. In addition, we had a rather significant pushback against the +6 bonus to skills clauses, as it caused Pathfinder's classes to be overshadowed, so we needed to redo those.
Finally, we wanted to make the Avowed more thematically coherent, not pushing people into fiend-themed options for a class that theoretically supported pacts with lovecraftian horrors and fey. Thus, our writeups of pact benefits on levelup and removement of alignment restrictions.

As a result of these additions, and the attempt to make a BALANCED class rather than just change the class skills to PF's skills and call it a day, we've needed to playtest it.

>>52425059
The Avowed is considerably more powerful than the Warlock, due to buffs to a large number of clauses, more clauses, shapes being on their own progression, being able to add stat modifiers to damage, viable ranged shapes, and class features more powerful than negligible DR and fast healing 1 for a minute a day.

That said, please give us feedback! If your Avowed is struggling to stand on its own, or multiclassing has made a character too powerful, we'd love to hear about it so we can retune things.

>>52425195
The premise was kill dragons, save princesses. I'm paragon until death - if I can't try to negotiate, then the game's just going to be uncomfortable for me. Blaming that on Avowed is kind of a dick move, especially since we got three sessions in without a single d20 roll being made or class feature being used.

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>>52428272
>Did you buy enough rope?
What are you, my mom?

I have all the rope I need, right here.

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>>52428315
Well, my DM once threw a Coral Golem at our heads when my party was Lv.4 a once upon a time ages ago, but fortunately the sucker was vulnerable to a Glitterdust and was blinded. An encounter I would not recommend even if there was a Druid in the party, but that's rolling randomly on the encounter table for ya'.

Anyhoo, depending on the party composition, I think they could handle one or two CR 5's. Hell, if they're on a boat it'd be fun to poke at the dynamics of the party's limited space. Sadly I haven't sculpted many encounters myself, so I have little ro recommend on that front, sadly.

>>52428345
The actual issue is we were sent on a sidequest to murder some mobsters with no possibility of negotiation. I'm a massive pansy, and I was uncomfortable with that. I'd be holding up the party if I stopped to argue with them every time we got sent on one of those missions, and that would have been hella rude. So I left and since then have stuck to more wimpy games where I can solve everything with friendship bracelets and kumbaya.

>>52428272
Checking and rechecking anal circumference roll, making sure she's stocked up on Night Tea and extra clothes to replace the ones that get destroyed, and plenty of alcohol for the morning after blues.

>>52426750
>Paladin of Nature
noice

>>52428315
A gang of merrow with strong hands and powerful fish cocks

>>52426750
"Paladins are not stupid, and in general there is no rule of Lawful Good against killing enemies. The old adage about nits making lice applies. Also, as I have often noted, a paladin can freely dispatch prisoners of Evil alignment that have surrendered and renounced that alignment in favor of Lawful Good. They are then sent on to their reward before they can backslide.

An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth is by no means anything but Lawful and Good. Prisoners guilty of murder or similar capital crimes can be executed without violating any precept of the alignment. Hanging is likely the usual method of such execution, although it might be beheading, strangulation, etc. A paladin is likely a figure that would be considered a fair judge of criminal conduct.

The Anglo-Saxon punishment for rape and/or murder of a woman was as follows: tearing off of the scalp, cutting off of the ears and nose, blinding, chopping off of the feet and hands, and leaving the criminal beside the road for all bypassers to see. I don't know if they cauterized the limb stumps or not before doing that. It was said that a woman and child could walk the length and breadth of England without fear of molestation then...


Chivington might have been quoted as saying "nits make lice," but he is certainly not the first one to make such an observation as it is an observable fact. If you have read the account of wooden Leg, a warrior of the Cheyenne tribe that fought against Custer et al., he dispassionately noted killing an enemy squaw for the reason in question.

I am not going to waste my time and yours debating ethics and philosophy. I will state unequivocally that in the alignment system as presented in OAD&D, an eye for an eye is lawful and just, Lawful Good, as misconduct is to be punished under just laws." -Gary Gygax
link to full article:
http://hackslashmaster.blogspot.com/2013/06/on-alignment-by-gygax.html
If your falling for punishing criminals, your DM a shit.

>>52426327

Have any power, connections, or high charisma? Abuse it like your life depended on it, because it probably does. Also use the lattermost to get town guards to protect you, as they're essentially budget fighters that you can take in four-packs!

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So anons what sounds the most fun between agent of the grave, diabolist, and soul eater.
Playing and evil game and they all appeal to me.

>>52428456
That's not what he's asking for. A Paladin Smiting Evil often means cutting the guy's fucking head off. He's asking whether or not he's allowed to torture things unnecssarily, and more to the point, not proscribed within law. If a person carries out the lawful punishment on a criminal who refuses to ask for redemption, he's unequivocally being Lawful Good. If a person carries out excessive punishment not allowed within the law, that's up to debate. Are you allowed to kill someone for petty theft, for example? Maybe. But maybe the usual punishment is a fine.

>>52428656
Isn't that exactly what inquisitors are for thematically?

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>>52428656
>>52428672
NOO HE HAS TO PLAY THE CLASS THAT STARTS WITH P AND ENDS IN ALADIN AND HAS CODE OF CONDUCT ABOUT WHAT THEY CAN DO BECAUSE HE'S EDGY AND ABOVE THE LAW REEEE

I shouldn't shitpost, even ironically, but it sounds like what this guy wants to do.

>>52428371
Cashmere please

>>52428672
Kind of I guess? I mean you'd kind of expect Inquisitors to be the same shit more or less. Thing is Inquisitors ARE lawful, they're part of the Inquisition. Inquisition literally means "questioning". Even if they're the ones in charge of execution as well as investigation they stilll have to follow law - just ecclesiastical / theological law, not secular law.

>>52428704
So worship the insane angel of slaughter that thinks the only way to fix evil is to murder the hell out of it.

>>52428425
>fish cock
I'm sorry. I may be fine with demon god created corrupting mist that turns people into monstergirls, but fish do not have penises.

Is it weird that even if I start with 25+ PB and play a fullcaster, I just can't get myself to pump their SAD stat to 18? 17 is the highest I feel alright to do, since level 4 isn't so far away and it helps me not dump stats so much to begin with. I just feel like I end up with a 'better' character overall, most of the time.

>>52427055
War priests are basically exactly this. You spend a bunch of swift actions buffing yourself to pretty sick levels and run around cutting up people you don't like. You can heal on demand similarly to lay on hands as well as can get normal healing spells. It's a cool class it's just incredibly stat dependent.

>>52428739
Clearly they're humans who have gained fish traits!

>>52428739
Now we know what Vults going to do to poor Cashmere and Glorianna.

>>52428656
I think we all forget that "enhanced interrogation" (torture to all non-americans) was considered an acceptable practice for quite a long time for getting confessions. So torture for information or a confession, by a traditional medieval fantasy setting's view, is justifiable. It's when the paladin gets what he wants and keeps going that his actions should be called into question. Just my look on it when I'm GMing though, but I allow Paladin's the "Greater Good" defense.

>>52428797
I don't know what you mean by enhanced interrogation. Interrogation generally means "whatever it takes to get info". The only way to enhance that is shit like "I-I'll fucking talk, don't rip my balls off" and the Paladin goes "yeah I'll only rip off one, then you talk".

>>52428812
Enhanced interrogation is stuff like waterboarding or mindbreaking your target to get what you want.

AKA Guantanamo shit.

>>52428816
Waterboarding at Guantanamo Bay sounds like an awesome time if you don't know what either of those things mean.

>>52428789
>PLD is at the boat arc already
Jesus christ how horrifying

>>52428838
>PLD starts at the boat arc

>>52428816
...yeah but that's just plain interrogation.

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>>52428315
S A H U A G I N
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One of my favourite monsters in both DnD and Pathfinder. Partly because of DDO

>>52428860
Trump, pls stop funposting on 4chan.

>>52428886
The definition of the word interrogation does not include 'humanely'. Do you think that nobody has ever interrogated someone before modern human rights conventions?

>>52428315
Undines and Merfolk. You can flub the hydraulic push SLA dice into having the undines push themselves and the merfolk into the ship through spouts of water from the river.

>>52428656
Functionally the Paladin only needs to do two things to be considered lawful good concerning interrogation
1. He can only interrogate until the point the guy talks and you can't interrogate people who have no connection - so no torturing civilians near the cultist hideout, only the cultists. You can't go on if your character has no reason to believe he's lying or still hiding something.
2. He can't enjoy the act. Hurting a sentient creature, even an evil one, for the sake of hurting it is an Evil action. Hurting a sentient because you have to in order to protect others is probably Neutral. Hurting a sentient who has committed crimes that allow it to be hurt is Lawful.

>>52428926
Was hoping for one big thing that's a bit out of their striking range in a fair fight.

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>>52428315
Water slimegirls.

>>52428899
If the police take you in to ask you questions about your dear old mum you've been interrogated. The definition of interrogation does not involve torture, and the vast majority of interrogations don't involve torture either.

>>52428975
The definition of interrogation does not preclude torture to be used in the process though.

>>52428968
>a water Gelly Cube
Why are Slimes considered to be weak anyway
At least in anime they have a core that's a OHKO if destroyed, in most settings they're literally nothing but a lump of moving algae or mold. Realistically the only way you could possibly destroy it is by setting it on fire or some shit, hitting it should do squat for damage.

>>52429017
Because in Dragon Quest slimes are generally one of the first enemies you fight.

>>52428956
Huge Water Elemental or something like that?
Also, you can always give the merfolk and undine some class levels.

>>52428425

Bonbon get gone gone.

>>52428994
But "plain interrogation" does not involve torture. "Enhanced interrogation" was the phrase used by the CIA whenever they were asked whether they were torturing people.

>>52429017
>Realistically the only way you could possibly destroy it is by setting it on fire
I know right, and who has access to fire these days? It's not like torches and flint and tinders aren't included in almost every kit. Fire is so rare, if only there were cheap, mass produced bottles of alchemist's fire available for anyone to purchase. What a shame fire just does not exist in our world.

>>52429079
And the CIA is not in most Pathfinder games, what's your point?

>>52429080
You would presume that the Fighter, when saying "I attack the Cube", did not heat his sword in the torch until it was red-hot.

>>52429080
How exactly are you going to get a fire hot enough to put out a damn ooze? Are you going to have enough time to build a bonfire?

Alchemist's fire might be more effective, but how many jars of it did you bring?

>>52429098
Other than you not getting the joke? That torture doesn't work. Hasn't ever worked, won't ever work more reliably than flipping a coin.

>>52429098
>stereotyping the fighter as dumb muscle that only knows how to swing sword.
Racist!

>>52429110
>hasn't ever worked
I'm not here to debate the effectiveness of torture with you. I'm saying that interrogation historically has never been about nicely asking you for something and that force was often involved in the process of interrogating. There's a reason many languages have different words for a questioning and an interrogation even in formal contexts.

>>52428994
True. But since most interrogations don't include them it is assumed that any given interrogation should not include torture.

It's all about context though. If the local police in my hometown are going to interrogate me I will assume I at most will be yelled at.
If I'm going to be interrogated in north korea I will assume that I shall take all and any means of killing myself before I start claiming it was my wife that gave my kid a bible and they should torture her to death instead.

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>>52429098
>And the CIA is not in most Pathfinder games
But is Dr. Pavel in most Pathfinder games?

>>52429174
No, but Rory is.

>>52429199
>>52429174
You don't get to bring friends!

>>52428844

Who's Griffith?

>>52427164
>You lose fear immunity and LoH/Mercies, but you get some minor stuff and Nemesis, which basically adds brutal debuffs to your Smite Evil amongst other nice stuff.
Everything wrong with DSP in a nutshell. "Hey, let's take this nice class that is great at killing things dead, strip off some of the more fluffy utility abilities, and make it EVEN BETTER at killing things dead."

>>52429224

To be fair, they're just addressing the PF audience that praises archetypes that remove fluffy abilities with actual optimized stuff.

>>52429214
Sigmund

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>>52429098

How would you stat CIA in Pathfinder?

>>52429224
It's also a class in a book about playing vampires.
Y'know, undead.
CREATURES IMMUNE TO MIND AFFECTING AND HURT BY POSITIVE ENERGY..

>>52429214

Needs to be someone who has and continues to do nothing wrong.

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>>52429224
>Implying Lichbane's "Remove the highest level of manifesting/casting/initiating" isn't the best thing ever.
Also, you get nice stuff like Smite Neutral, Ghost Touch on weapons, Aura of +AC vs crit confirm, apply Dimensional Anchor to targets of Smite Evil, reduce the DC of their abilities...
Well, you're right. It's still a fucking awesome archetype.

Say I were to staple two monsters together, such that they have the same hp pool but independent action. How much more dangerous did I just make that?

>>52429296

I do this all the time. It.....depends on the monster types and situation. In most cases, it is less dangerous than two bodily separate monsters due to spells, maneuvers, and positioning.

However, putting a good frame on a glass cannon or potent defenses onto a brute can enhance things greatly.

>>52429261
Weak Build. Treated as one size smaller for Combat Maneuver purposes.

>>52429296
it will eat shit to any and all AoE or multiple target abilities.

>>52429261

CIA is in possession of boundless intelligence and hyper charisma characterized by his booty wiggle and power stance. He also has many hired guns include Smee, Maimen, Heer, Button-Lee and Hugh, this would mean CIA has the Leadership feat and is at least level 7.

In short, I would stat Bill Wilson as a Level 7 Warlord (Desperado) with high Dex, high Intelligence, extremely high charisma, low wisdom and low strength (as even Bane was a big guy for him, and he couldn't understand how there was a lotta loyalty for a hired gun.)

>>52429346
You don't need leadership to have hired guns. Just cash.

>>52429357

But anon, Leadership IS cash.

>>52429357

CIA does not need to pay for his hired gun's loyalty, they do it for free.

>>52429327
You misunderstand, Id be combining their hp.

Basically Im saying that you can win until everything is dead. Except you can keep wailing on the weakest part until it all dies

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ahhh guys i'm excited!

>>52429372
That's a lot of loyalty.

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>>52429382

Yay! Excitement!

>>52429382

That's nice, but what are you excited for?

>>52429382
>sorceress shaking her pussy around in full view of everyone

>>52429437
>implying that isn't your favorite kind

>>52429437
>Sorceress
Who

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I need the most radical concept you can think of!

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>>52429515
Pic related.

Also the ONLY one showing off her pussy for all to see.

>>52429403
i get to play tonight!

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>>52429529
Are you going to... Pic related?

>>52429524
40K Heretical inquisitor that uses daemoncubula to create extra powerful psykers to combat space marines gone out of control of the Imperium.

>>52429525
Megumin wears black lacy panties, which are still panties.

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>>52429568

>>52429574
>implying Chomsuke is a cat
Anon next you'll say Emperor Zell is just a chicken

>>52429617
stop this, you've done it every thread and its still not interesting

>>52429579
>Anon next you'll say Emperor Zell is just a chicken

Of course it is, Aqua's just an idiot.

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Why is the reception to Spheres of Might so lukewarm?

I thought we were all hyping it up?

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>>52429525

Megumeme best girl.

>>52429645
Because he formatting is terrible, because Sslarn is hated, because between the waiting and the 2hu build vomits people are already sick of it, because you keep fucking asking the same goddamn question every thread.

>>52429645
It turns out people weren't so much excited by the idea of SoM as they were excited by the idea of not-PoW.

Then it turned out SoM was worse.

>>52428816
Doesn't actually give good info either. It'll let you get any confession you want, and let them tell you exactly what you've continuously hinted that you want to hear, but there's no useful information whatsoever.

Not that they'd ever actually want to STOP terrorism, so false info's completely fine by them.

>>52428975
Although the Reid technique can come damn close, psychologically speaking.

As I recall even its creator had a "goddamnit, what the fuck guys?" moment as a result of what his original idea has now been abused for.

>>52429645
Ssalarn made the thing too complicated, just like that arcforge/steelforge stuff.

>>52429645
Because it's arse

>>52429638
Although it's going to be spectacular for a chicken due to the constant high mana exposure, as they've hinted at.

Might end up all armored and yelling Kweh.

>yfw they purposefully mosaic it out in images and the anime as a result, making aqua cry.

>>52429747
how can it be too complicated when it was abandoned just half done?

>>52429800
The system gets too complicated and you can't finish it without leaving serious problems in it.

Do you think SoM will actually see release?

>>52429758
>Might end up all armored and yelling Kweh.

>Aqua unintentionally creates the first Chocobo

>>52429892
>Do you think SoM will actually see release?
Definitely. It'll probably even turn a profit even if it's shit because people will buy it blindly based on their positive experience with SoP.

>>52429747
Ssalarn wasn't even involved with Steelforge... or at least he's not listed as such. And the book is a simple catalog if items.

>>52429681
>It turns out people weren't so much excited by the idea of SoM as they were excited by the idea of not-PoW.
That may be the reason. Maybe it will get more interesting when they present legendary talents and fix things like armiger being rewarded for fake full attacks.

>>52429747
When I saw Jolly's name on the list of writers I was joyful
When I saw Ssalarn's name on the list of writers my joy faded to cautious optimism
When I saw the playtest my optimism faded to despair
When Jolly eventually gets tired of our negativity about the garbage Ssalarn shoehorned into SoM and leaves my despair will evolve into depression

Is this how DHBs are born?

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>When Blingmaker looks fine as frog's hair but everyone's already built all the classes you had in mind

>>52429994
>When Jolly eventually gets tired of our negativity about the garbage Ssalarn shoehorned into SoM and leaves my despair will evolve into depression

This isn't going to happen, anon.

>>52430081
What concepts Anon?

>>52430113

Swordlord, punching, even being a magical hyper-jew!

>>52430084
How can you be so sure? He was already coming here less often since the /pol/ bullshit started and I've barely seen him since we started talking shit about the playtest. Hell we see Ssalarn samefagging to try to generate sympathy in the general more these days than Jolly.

>>52430147
You DO know that people saying "hi Ssalarn" don't actually have a Ssalarn detector but are just accusing people of being him because they're attacking 2hu?

hi Ssalarn

>>52430147
Jolly is not commenting on the playtest here because it is still officially a backer-only release. He is active on their forums and Google Doc.

>>52430170
Oh I know, but I also know that that kind of bullshit isn't below Ssalarn.

>>52429956
>fake full attacks

What did he mean by this?

>>52430081
So what? Write a better backstory than they have! Make a better character than they did! B them TFO.

>>52430214

So... You're telling me to kill them all?

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>>52430081
So? Follow your dreams anon. Don't be a バカ.

>>52430081
>When Blingmaker looks like the bee's knees and someone makes a class you had in mind but you make the same class with a different story and more fetishy art.

>>52430221
You know what must be done. Now fly my little vilderavn. Fly!

>>52430081
>When Blingmaker looks like it'd make you happier than a dog with two dongs but you're already in a /pfg/ game and your character idea boils down to Young Casimir Aldori

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>>52430274
>mfw I become what I've hated the most

>>52430298
>and your character idea boils down to Young Casimir Aldori

JUST
DO IT

The campaign needs a Swordlord, why not you?

>>52430302
>TFW your self-hatred can sustain you forever
>TFW you are a vilderavn with harbinger levels

>>52430319
>tfw midterms
>tfw have to wait to apply until they're over
>someone is going to snake out the swordlord idea, making mine seem unoriginal
College sucks yo

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Riddle me this: why wasn't Unchained Rogue remade by going off of the Investigator chassis? I know technically investigator was BASED off of rogue, but look at the two and tell me, which one looks like a fleshed out, fully functioning class, and which one looks like a barebones patched together mess?

Alternative question, but relevant to the first: "how the fuck do you quantify the value of class features"

>>52430359
>someone is going to snake out the swordlord idea, making mine seem unoriginal

The only thing unoriginal about your character will be a shared occupation or aspiration, nothing more nothing less. Finish your midterms and make dat Swordlord, you know you want to and I doubt you'll ever get another chance.

Plus, Swordlords get a campaign trait that gives them a +1 trait bonus to attack with a Dueling Sword. Can you turn down Weapon Focus as a trait?

>>52430395
>Riddle me this: why wasn't Unchained Rogue remade by going off of the Investigator chassis?
Investigator is a demi-caster, and doing it like that would have broken archetype compatibility like UC monk did.

>>52430359
Just make whatever you want. Shouldn't you focus on concept rather than mechanics?

>>52430452
This. There can be three Swordlords and the one with the best fluff will win. Actually, only the one that's already friends with the GM will win.

>>52430444
>Having more actual, valuable features and not-trash saves would kill compatibility

But how.

>>52430452
Swordlord is a concept more than mechanics imo. We don't talk about the PrC.

Why the fuck are people so worried about stepping on each others' toes for Blingmaker? Character applications are a competition to see who gets in, so COMPETE!

>>52430491

To be fair, most people here are used to getting picked and then making the character, rather than making the character and then getting picked.

>>52430491
But people want to get in, so competing less is better. If you find a niche you only occupy then you have a much better chance of being accepted.

I'm going to play a caster in Carrion Crown, and I want to be something gamebreaking, but I'm being limited to only Paizo books. Any suggestions?

>>52430515
>limited to only Paizo books
...this is a limit to broken casters? Wizard.

>>52430515
WIZARD
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>>52430491
I always thought the attitude of avoiding each others characters was weird. You should really build your character assuming you will get in, or it'll be much less fun a game for you. At 4 slots, I don't your odds will be improved just for being a bit different. Better off competing strong, especially knowing some DMs here give no fucks about sheets or compatibility.

>>52430490
Eh, I feel like it occupies a narrow field of acceptable archetypes is the thing. Either way I'm prepping an application and my character is probably total ass but I like the concept so it's going to be fun for me either way. That is if I get in.

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>>52430514
>If you find a niche you only occupy

I'm going to give you a precious niche that has been untouched so far, in either thread or application.

This is my most precious treasure, one that I was going to exploit myself. I hope someone finds happiness with it.

Kingmaker is a game centered around wilderness survival and exploration. Nobody has made a survivalist, woodsman, pioneer or any other way to describe someone that will keep the party alive in a forest.

>>52430515
Arcanist :^)

>>52430486
It doesn't have the class features all the existing rogue archetypes trade away.

Is WWW dead then due to the rise of Blingmaker?

Why are we born? Is it just to suffer?

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>>52430543

>tfw I was born and bred on competing against others for spots on Myth-Weavers so this whole culture of not stepping on toes is weird to me.

>>52429895
Now imagine her bawling that he's all pixelated now, like in that episode of Yoshihiko where SOMEONE wasn't supposed to dress like Mar*o

>>52430534
>>52430541

15 point buy, any particular suggestions or should I just find a build guide?

>>52430549
If you check the applications you'd find that that's not true.

>>52430588
>15 point buy

christ.

>>52430557
The idea is less "these exact features" and more "things with the same value". Base rogue has jack shit because SA and 8+int skills are overvalued. Investigator has better everything, even against URogue.

>>52430491
Wasn't there some bullying in RotJR and molthune over overlapping character apps? If I'm remembering that correctly, there's a precedent to avoid that.

>>52430570
WWW can't be dead if it was always a bamboozle.

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>>52430589

I know what I said, and I'm still going to stick by it.

>>52430604
It can't be, DM has too much to lose, known quantity.

>>52430503
>>52430514
>>52430543
>>52430573
The people who actually apply don't waste time posting here until they've actually applied.

The people who post here will do so trying to build up confidence and public support for their actions in the belief that people telling them to go ahead will make their app better simply because people want to see those applications.

However, posting here wondering what to make doesn't actually help make good applications.

>>52430603
There may have been bullying, but that didn't stop the influx of "THICC GIRL WITH TRAGIC PAST #171" from flooding in.

>>52430601
>The idea is less "these exact features" and more "things with the same value".
Still breaks archetype compatibility.

>>52430592
Yeah, I know, my group is built out of min/maxers so the DM has to reign us in somehow.

Has there been a Blingmaker application for a crafter/artisan character?

>>52430674

There's been a few crafters, but no explicit Artisans.

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>>52430652
>literally adding shit to base rogue to make it have equal value to something else breaks compatibility

URogue says hi, it managed to add shit without breaking compatibility, even if it didn't add enough things or even the right things.

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Anyone have any suggestions on building a lizardfolk warpriest that uses natural weapons as sacred weapons?

>>52430695

Step One: Find a DM that will let you treat natural weapons as manufactured weapons for the purposes of class features

Step Two: Find a god that actually has natural weapons as their sacred weapon

Step Three: ???

Step Four: Prophet!

>>52430716
>Step Four: Prophet!
This anon right here

>>52430693
So... you want to base unchained rogue on investigator chassis instead of rogue chassis, except without actually changing anything from the rogue chassis? What?

Planning on building a swordlord this evening for blingmaker.

What should I do? PoW? Fighter with archetype?

BOTH?

>>52430768
Swordlord archetype fighter. Go maximum flavor, fuck efficiency!

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>>52430716
Lol, thx anon

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>>52430768
>What should I do? PoW? Fighter with archetype?

Fighter (Weapon Master) working towards Duelist if you want something 1pp.

Warlord (Scarlet Throne Style) working towards Landsknecht if you want PoW. Alternatively, if the DM says Aegis stacks with Einhander, than go Warder (ZS) working towards Landsknecht.

>>52430768
Warlord focusing on Scarlet Throne maneuvers into Landsknecht

>>52430754
Investigator just has MORE SHIT on it, shit which is of far greater value than anything that either version of Rogue gets. If completely redoing the rogue and dropping compatibility is what it would take, then it stands to gain more than it loses. There's what, three "good" rogue archetypes? One of which completely guts the class anyway?

>>52430655
the problem is that 15pb doesn't stop optimization, it just forces you to pick the strongest most SAD classes, like Cleric, Wizard, and Druid

A low PB character is infinitely stronger as a caster than a martial, your DM is retarded

>>52430655
Your DM is fucking stupid.

>>52430862
>If completely redoing the rogue and dropping compatibility is what it would take, then it stands to gain more than it loses.
If that's what you want, just play Investigator, Slayer, Bard or Alchemist with an appropriate archetype.

>>52430862
I don't know why you're bringing Investigator into it. All you're saying is "I want rogue to be good".

>>52430930
You don't understand, anon has a very particular idea of what he wants the UC rogue to have been, but he just can't explain it.

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>>52431034
Come on anon, we won't steal your ideas for massive profit!

>>52430924
>>52430885

He claims that's standard for all Paizo adventures, I've only DM'd oneshot dungeon crawls in PF so I wouldn't know.

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>>52430930
I guess that's fair, and something I've been doing anyway I just sit back and look at some classes and wonder why they were so fucking lazy. Looking at unchained just makes me realize how small of a bandage got slapped over such a big, gaping wound.

>>52430949
Investigator just has a lot of overlap in function, even though how they play is very different.

>>52431034
If anything, I wish Legendary Rogues was more of a concrete thing instead of a toolbox, that way I could throw it at people without needing to explain the whole damn thing to them. That and it wasn't a fucking 3pp that got immediately dismissed because "3pp is all shit".

>>52431079
He's a retard

>>52431079
Paizo adventures are all balanced around 20pb. All of them. If your DM is sticking you on 15pb, he either is actually stupid, or he's intentionally fucking you. The latter of which can actually be legit depending on their reason for it, but in this case, I'm pretty sure your DM is fucking stupid.

15pb doesn't discourage optimization, it encourages it. It cuts the amount of viable classes down to a smaller pool and forces every player on any slot to build more aggressively so they can get by.

>>52431137
IIRC Paizo initially claimed their APs were balanced to a 15pb, but years later realized that this was because they couldn't actually do math and they were balancing around 20pb all the time. The 15pb meme still persists, but Paizo has long given up that line.

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Let us speak of punchers in Spheres of Might. I have with me a 5th-level puncher build that goes to show that Duelist's Grip with unarmed attacks, the monk (street fighter)'s flurry strike, the striker's tension techniques can all get very out of hand, and Berserking's Brutal Strike. N. Jolly would do well to figure out a way to prevent these from stacking into a metaphorical katamari of one-shotting enemies.

Once again, this build demonstrates that in Spheres of Might, the most optimal characters are the ones that ignore the interesting combat options, and instead concentrate on spamming pure damage attacks. Such a dull metagame paradigm.

Level: 5th
Race: Human
Class: Blacksmith 1/conscript 1/unchained monk (street fighter) 1/striker 2
Ability Scores (20 point buy): Strength 17+2+1+2, Dexterity 12, Constitution 14, Intelligence 12, Wisdom 12, Charisma 7
Key Trait: Ancestral Weapon (regional), Reactionary (combat)

Feats:
• Human Bonus: Muscular Reflexes
• 1st-level: Power Attack
• 3rd-level: Furious Focus
• 5th-level: Weapon Focus (unarmed strike)

Conscrip Specializations: Gear training (1), indomitable will (1), sphere specialization (3)
Striker Talent: Lasting flame

Martial Training: Decisive Fist
• Berserking
• Boxing (Unprepared Pugilist drawback, 1 free): Shoulder Roll
• Equipment (no dedication): Duelist's Grip, Unarmed Training

Other Combat Talents: 10 = 1 blacksmith + 1 equipment specialist + 1 conscript + 1 conscript bonus talent + 1 conscript sphere specialization + 2 martial arts + 2 striker + 1 bare knuckles
• Beastmastery (Unskilled drawback, 1 free): Pet (initiative familiar)
• Boxing's Tight Guard
• Dueling (Bloodless Combatant drawback, Clumsy Disarmer drawback, 2 free): Defensive Slice, Scar Tissue
• Equipment (1 free): Armor Training
• Guardian (Indifferent Defender drawback, 1 free): Cold Iron Call
• Open Hand: Axe Kick, Deadly Hand, Flying Kick, Focusing Fist

Can someone help me with Power attack and natural attacks? A warcat gets 1 bite, 2 claws, and 2 rake attacks.

1) Does the bite get 1.5x str bonus to damage for being the primary attack?
2) The claws come at -5 because of being secondary attacks, do the rake attacks come at a -5 as well?
3) If I am power attacking, does the grapple from the bite attack receive the attack negative from power attack?

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>>52431187

Key Equipment:
• 4,000 gp: Belt of giant strength +2
• 2,650 gp: +1 full plate
• 2,000 gp: +1 alchemical silver gauntlet (base item from Ancestral Weapon trait)
• 1,000 gp: Cloak of resistance +1
• 500 gp: Cracked dusty rose prism ioun stone

Initiative:
1 Dexterity modifier
+2 trait from Reactionary
+1 competence from dusty rose prism ioun stone
+4 initiative familiar
Total: +8

Attack Bonus on the First Attack of a Brutal Strike, Flying Kick, Flurry Strike with Fiery Offensive 2:
5 BAB
+6 Strength modifier
+1 enhancement
+1 trait from Ancestral Weapon
+1 Weapon Focus (unarmed strike)
+2 charge
-2 Flurry Strike
+2 fiery offensive
Total: +16, critical threat range 18-20

Damage on the First Attack of a Brutal Strike, Flying Kick, Flurry Strike with Fiery Offensive 2:
1d8 unarmed progression
+9 Strength modifier multiplied with Duelist's Grip
+1 enhancement
+3 Axe Kick
+2 sharpen weapons
+6 Power Attack
+2 fiery offensive
+10 Brutal Strike
Total: 1d8+33 (average 37.5)

Damage on the Second Attack of a Brutal Strike, Flying Kick, Flurry Strike with Fiery Offensive 2 and Combo Rhythm 1:
5 BAB
+6 Strength modifier
+1 enhancement
+1 trait from Ancestral Weapon
+1 Weapon Focus (unarmed strike)
-2 Flurry Strike
+2 fiery offensive
-2 Power Attack
+1 combo rhythm
Total: +13, critical threat range 18-20

Damage on the Second Attack of a Brutal Strike, Flying Kick, Flurry Strike with Fiery Offensive 2 and Combo Rhythm 1:
1d8 unarmed progression
+9 Strength modifier multiplied with Duelist's Grip
+1 enhancement
+3 Axe Kick
+2 sharpen weapons
+6 Power Attack
+2 fiery offensive
+1 combo rhythm
Total: 1d8+24 (average 28.5)

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>>52431206

This character opens up combat with 1 tension from their tension boost class feature. They charge, gaining another 1 tension from maneuvering momentum, and then activate fiery offensive for 2 tension, gaining a +2 circumstance bonus to attack rolls and damage rolls with unarmed strikes until the end of their next turn.

They end the charge in a Brutal Strike (expending martial focus to avoid fatigue), Flying Kick, flurry strike. Assuming both attacks are regular hits (not even critical hits, as this character has an 18-20 threat range), they deal 66 damage and use a swift action to recharge focus via Focusing Fist.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1E2-s8weiulPoBQjdI05LBzOUToyoZIdSsLKxHAvf8F8/edit#gid=3
• Average CR 5 AC: 17.6
• Average CR 5 Hit Points: 53.4
• Average CR 6 AC: 18.4
• Average CR 6 Hit Points: 68.1

As you can see, this character stands a very high chance of one-turn-killing a CR 5 or a CR 6. Combo rhythm will continue to give them more and more attack and damage bonuses as they land hits.

This character also has an impressive suite of defensive abilities, from Shoulder Roll, Tight Guard, Defensive Slice, Scar Tissue, Cold Iron Call, and the Berserking temporary hit points draining out Guardian's delayed damage.

>>52431203
>it is 1x because you have multiple natural attacks
>unless the claws SAY they are secondary natural attacks, they function as primary natural attacks, ie full BAB and normal str/PA modifier
>ditto for the Rake attacks as those function as claws, albeit they require special conditions (be grappling or pouncing a target) in order to be useable
>I don't actually know about the grapple thing, since I've done my best to avoid hurting my head on grapple rules lately

>>52431187
>>52431206
>>52431222
P A S T E B I N
Or at least a gdoc

fucking SOMETHING so you're not doing wall-of-texts every time you find something you consider "broken".

>>52431187
>>52431206
>>52431222

2hu, can you help us figure out how to build the perfect Swordlord?

To state it in more mechanical terms, could you help us build the ultimate one-handed swordsman utilizing Path of War and 1st party materials?

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>>52430081

>mfw the meme players apply for the game and steal all the spots

>>52431256
I think the walls are worthy of attention sometimes. There are times where it creates discussion, and it's nice to see you guys crunch with each other.

Only sometimes though.

>>52431313
Walls of text explaining details are cool, but half the posts end up just being statblocks of items.

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>>52431267

>the ultimate one-handed swordsman utilizing Path of War and 1st party materials?

With no other parameters, your best bet is a stalker (vigilante) taking Killer's Implements for a nine-ring broadsword, which is a monk weapon.

A monk weapon means compatibility with Broken Blade, and thus the likes of pugilist stance, flurry strike, and steel flurry strike.

The stalker (vigilante) offers sneak attack and an impressive array of skill monkey abilities, from 6 base skill points, a focus on Intelligence, an inspiration pool, and free inspiration on Knowledges, Perception, and Sense Motive.

If the character is supposed to hit level 6+, the character should also be a bushi for easy maneuver recovery.

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>>52431187
>>52431206
>>52431222
Touhou may I ask how exactly you even figure out half this shit? You do it over and over and over day after day consistently. How do you spot potentially broken builds so well?
Geniunely curious. How big of a munchkin can you be if you feel like it?

>>52430491
I try and avoid some people's toes, like DHB, because I know what ever my niche is his character, if it's in the same one, will just my niche better.

Blingmaker reviews
W H E N ?
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>>52431403

Learn from others and watch what they build. There is a good chance that you can learn an optimization trick or two by studying someone else's build close enough, and by asking them questions on why they took X, Y, and/or Z.

Learn from yourself. If you have identified something strong or questionable and implement it into a build, then chances are, it will be applicable to future builds you create. My Spheres of Might builds have been iterating upon themselves and running into common themes, such as Berserking's Brutal Strike (why bother with anything other than the hyper-damage option that lets you actually kill people?) and Dueling's two-drawback dip for Defensive Cut and Scar Tissue.

>>52430570
Don't bring it up! I want Blingmaker to keep taking people's attention away so I have more chances of getting into WWW!

>>52431493

Wait until NEXT WEEK GOD DAMMIT.

>>52431403
Not 2hu, but how can you NOT make your creations the best they can be? If you don't create your character with the most effective loadout, you're increasing the risk of their death or destruction, or the failure of all their goals. If you can't survive when a CR appropriate enemy rolls a nat 20 for initiative and takes a third of your your character's health off, it's your fault. If you haven't managed to get rerolls on saves and you flub their saves, your character's blood is on your hands. If you haven't looked over a way to get out of a grapple or ensue you have some means to survive venom, you've killed your own creation that you built with your own hands, because YOU didn't TRY HARD ENOUGH.
>>52427070
Just like this person here.

How can you do anything but give your creation the best chance in life?

>>52431493
After WWW, probably.

>>52431543
>Not 2hu, but how can you NOT make your creations the best they can be? If you don't create your character with the most effective loadout, you're increasing the risk of their death or destruction, or the failure of all their goals. If you can't survive when a CR appropriate enemy rolls a nat 20 for initiative and takes a third of your your character's health off, it's your fault. If you haven't managed to get rerolls on saves and you flub their saves, your character's blood is on your hands. If you haven't looked over a way to get out of a grapple or ensue you have some means to survive venom, you've killed your own creation that you built with your own hands, because YOU didn't TRY HARD ENOUGH.
Are you uh
Being ironic?

>>52431543
Because not every Int based character fits having be a fervent worshiper of an obscure fey deity.

>>52431543
>we have an unironic munchkin among us
How horrifying

>>52431505
but i want to see more cowboys and cowgirls and Indians!

>>52431559

Would a Fae-worshiping character fit for Blingmaker?

Could we get a worshiper of the Green Mother, someone dedicated to sex and fertility?

What are some good character concepts for an Ungermaw?

>>52431555
>>52431569
Just getting into character.
>>52431559
>Because not every Int based character fits having be a fervent worshiper of an obscure fey deity.

They do if they're a cute shota youkai kitsune!

>>52431596
fuck yourself

>>52431586
A tiefling who was born after one of their parents pacted with a fiend. Now inside they're a portal to the endless void of the abyss.

>>52431585
Isn't her obedience literally jerking off in a bush telling it about someone's secret as you cum

>>52431586
A tribal warrior that fucked up the ritual cannibalism ritual and got saddled with a cursed hunger

>>52431608
If it is it's still better than Magdh's. "lol draw some dots on your face and put rocks in a bowl of water"

Has anyone cast black tentacles on themselves before

>>52431586
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarrare

>>52431657
Not in public.
>>52431606
That's exactly what happens if you don't minmax properly!

>>52431657
Yeah, if I have Freedom of Movement up.

>>52431671
Does 'in front of your party hoping someone will man up' count

>>52431686
t. super serious guy

>>52431657
I think the douchiest thing I've used it for was to prevent a bunch of demoralized minions and PC allies from fleeing a battle.

>>52431657
>>52431671
>>52431747
>not using it on the arc villain, especially if it's a guy

>>52431608

Yup.

The Green Mother doesn't even have the decency of being about petty revenge or lust like Calistria, Green Mother just wants you to get cocksleeved by satyrs and forest folk until you pop out a couple kids.

>>52431768
My character's entire personal goal is to find a way to be cocksleeved without being mindbroken

>>52430627
That's how you get all the "rory" posts. Player shilling their own character to get chosen.

>>52431778

That's not actually too hard, you only need to build a good personal relationship with the thing cocksleeving you before the cocksleeving occurs.

Being a seductive, willful witch helps too.

>>52431781
you're just salty that rory is chad thundercock

>>52431543
Optimization should only be done after selecting the basic framework.

Class, primary combat mode, general ability set (like picking a kineticist's element or a sorcerer's bloodline), to a lesser extent Race.

AFTER you've gotten those, THEN you max them out. It makes sense for your undine bloodline sorcerer to try and be the best damn undine bloodline sorcerer as he can, sure, but he didn't pick his lineage.

>>52431790
That's not how it works, you can be mindbroken even by a guy you like. Even if you're the one being assertive. See https://exhentai.org/g/1023602/c7aace211e/

>tfw I randomly want to play neopets after a fucking decade
What the fuck is happening I can't get it out of my head

>>52431824
Yeah but it's also important that the basic framework takes into account your character's personality if any.

>>52431778
If this is about characters in PLD I got some bad news for you.

>>52431829
Play a gachapon mobage to quell that desire. Get into P&D, GBF, or that Fire Emblem one.

>DHB applying to WWW, LoB&F, and Blingmaker
>want to play with DHB
>only WWW interests me
what should I do /pfg/?

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>>52431829

"Mindbroken" is a meme perpetuated by hentai doujins that insist any man's cock could turn a tough girl into a drooling, panting bitch in under five thrusts. This is patently untrue and even sells an idea that a man that can't do this to their partner is weak or meek.

Poppycock, I say. Pure, utter poppycock. A woman that gets jammed onto a fat satyr stick isn't going to become a mewling ahaego, she's just going to be in for a very good ride that leaves her satisfied. With luck, she might even got a kid in her belly from it.

That is what the Green Mother do.

>>52431917
Apply to WWW dumbass.

>>52431917
then apply to WWW

>>52431917

Apply to WWW, silly.

>>52431934
Look anon

you can't beat the cock

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>>52431781
>>52431803
Nah. Roryposting is what happened after Rory got in, and it got to the guy's head.

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>>52431867
It's an irl game
My sister is the forever DM by her own request, which makes it awkward because she told me at least one time just this game "yeah no our bodies don't stretch that far normally it only works when giving birth roll a save or die against FORT"

>>52431873
Anon I play all three and FGO
Save me from this hell

>>52431934
Green mother propaganda.

>>52431803
From what I've been subjected to, it's more like Frank Reynolds with his son's ego.

>>52431935
>>52431944
>>52431949
I want to maximize my chances of getting into a DHB game.

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>>52431934
>This element of a someones fantasy is fantasy, and doesn't apply to my fantasy
Okay.

>>52431974
christ

>>52431978
If you get into a game that you're not interested in, you're going to lower the quality of game for DHB, and you're less likely to get in if he gets in

WWW is your best shot.

>>52431974
Rory likes to bang a lot of hoores.

>>52431959
Well the tissues of the female genitalia are slowly altered over many weeks to temporarily obtain the elasticity they will require for delivery.

There's always a bit of permanent wear&tear as a result though despite that.

>>52431978
>Local man desires to court a meme.

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>>52431959
>playing a lewd game with your sister as the DM
Do you two... Pic related?

>>52432011
It was a minotaur.
I think she has a point but it's still awkward for your sister to tell you your fetishbait character doesn't fly that far in her game.

>>52431829
Dat stealthy draik, doe

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>>52431956

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Remember
No fucking plants

>>52431952

Nope, can't beat the cock.

I wonder if the busty wyrmwitch is going to worship the Green Mother!