Pathfinder General /pfg/

>>52421793
The king transformed into a musclebound abomination and raped the paladin

So who's going to make Casimir for Blingmaker?

>>52421793
>Playtest pastebin
Wow this OP looks nice and simple, not cluttered like the last one. I like it. But still
>PAGE 5
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>52421865

Don't tempt me to make another one! I'm this close!

>>52421865
I might, if I don't chicken out and make some Hidden Blade rogue.

>>52421865
Shouldn't Captain Slow do that? I feel like it's rude to steal his thunder.

Slow can submit an alternate universe Casimir, a What If, Elseworld, Mirror Universe kind of guy.

>>52421793
I attempted a coup that went exactly as planned. For supposedly being a paranoid king, he didn't seem to have any decent defenses in place against invisible earth elementals with arcane sight. In fact, he didn't really seem to have any defenses at all, we never even saw an Alarm spell.

>>52421897

Nah, it should be someone else.

>>52421865
>>52421897
>TFW Captain Slow applies with Not!Casimir and Sappy applies with Not!Valeriya

>>52421897
Bizzaro Casimir?

>>52421931

Blasimir.

>>52421793
One time we thought that a king was maybe evil. So we went up to him and said 'hey we think you're evil'.

He was like 'Yep.'

Then he stood up and started kicking the shit out of us because we had three party members with us and he was simultaneously posessed by a demonsword and hopped up on enough drugs to floor a rhino.

If it weren't for that 1/day Smite from Chevalier and my gun ignoring his fucking incongruous amount of AC, things would have gone... poorly.

>>52421865
CASIMIR BE MY DADDY

>>52421793
>Killed the evil king
>Looking through his bedchambers for the stolen MacGuffin
>Find a hidden room
>Find the king in a secret prison cell
>The evil king we killed was a doppelganger
Boy were our faces red

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>>52421921
So scarlet throne style + ZS warder into landsknecht was mentioned. Str or Dex for aldori dueling sword? Do I look into mithral current since that has some overlap with lansknecht and the shashka? If so do I take Bushi or should I look into OD?

>>52421984
Y'know, if you want a swordlord so much, just roll one and stop fapping over your fucking daddy fetish.

>>52421961
Also my DM was nice enough to let my Smite keep running on him after we finally killed him and the sword reanimated him as an undead for another go

>>52422000
If you're going into Landsknecht, what you want to do is ask whether or not Deadly Agility and Strength of Arms allows you to use 1.5 dex to damage. Forrest says yes but that it should be down to DM discretion.

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>>52422000

The Dueling Sword needs an EWP feat to actually use that Finesse, so I'd suggest going for Strength for simplicity. Mithral Current isn't quite as thematic as Scarlet Throne for the Swordlord, so if you want to save some feats just go for a straight ZS.

>>52421793
In the first session I ever joined with my now longest running group, I ate a King.

>>52422000
I can't help with mechanics but if you're making a Swordlord you should know that in order to learn the style you have to change your last name to Aldori. I think I saw that in the fluff somewhere.

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>>52421924
>MFW

>>52422039
Reading through it seems to say no, but I'm not sure, Bushi ZS warder seems like an easier time to go into Landsknecht since I'd automatically meet all prereqs at 5th, and continue getting mithral and scarlet maneuvers. I'd just wonder about pushing the PrC till 7th for the mixed combat thing. I do wonder about the better sense motive and socials from conversion inquisition Ordained Defender, but that might not fit the theme as well.

>>52422044
But I'd likely be going human/half-elf for setting, or aasimar if I want to get obscure. Would that change it?

>>52422117
>but if you're making a Swordlord you should know that in order to learn the style you have to change your last name to Aldori

That's only when you're formally inducted, most players will be hopefuls.

So can somebody give me a lore breakdown for Kingmaker's background? I'm not knowledgable on Golarion lore.

>>52422136
Forrest has said both readings are valid. If you don't want to use it then you can for sure still go dex, you'll just do a little bit less damage.

>>52422182
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>>52421327
That's pretty much it, and Kingmaker barely deals with any of it except for what a GM inserts on his own.

>>52422137
>>52422204
So for an Aldori Swordlord, would they feel particularly str or dex? And how much are there dueling swords meant to be quick drawn?

>>52422254
>And how much are there dueling swords meant to be quick drawn?

There are only two feats you need to become a Swordlord.

Quick draw, and Dazzling Display. Dueling Mastery is a feat representing your mastery of the Dueling Sword, and it needs Weapon Finesse.

>>52422262
I meant in lore, as I'm not planning on taking that PrC. I'm going the landskencht route but was still wondering.

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>>52421793
A lot happened, but his ghost got the last laugh in the end and now I'm in Super-Hell.

I mean, just look at his smug face. He knows exactly how hard I got rused. I killed him with a magic sword, and look where that got me?

My advice, kids? Don't try regicide, especially when it's also patricide.

>>52422182
See >>52420810. Last thread also had a few pages of setting info about Brevoy dumped towards the end.

But as far as the actual AP fits into things, the PCs have been hired by the Swordlords to clear out bandits in the Stolen Lands, an area sharing Rostland's southern border. The Stolen Lands are part of what is known as the River Kingdoms, a group of small nations that are loosely tied together under the banner of the "River Freedoms", a group of rights they believe all people have (chief of which is that slavery is an horrible, but also other less stuff like "if I stole it from you fair and square it's mine"). The Stolen Lands are called stolen because nobody has been able to maintain a settlement there before someone or something comes in and steals it away. As a result, the Stolen Lands are really just trafficked by bandits and there's no civilization or cities there.

Because having something like that along the southern border would be bad for Rostland if a civil war broke out, the Swordlords of Rostland (or more specifically Restov, which is the biggest city in Rostland and center of Swordlord culture) charter the PCs to clear out the bandits in the area and then later give them permission to settle the lands as a reward (and also to give themselves a potential ally if a civil war with Issia starts).

That's basically all there is to know for normal Kingmaker. Blingmaker has some other bits but it doesn't seem to be anything that really changes things up at the start, just something about a huge explosion in the Stolen Lands that Issia used as an excuse to put people down there before Rostland could.

>>52422220
To be fair, the DM has been saying that making the campaign focus more on Brevoy is one of their specific goals.

>>52422293
>I meant in lore

Anon, I'm using the feat requirements to paint a picture of how a Swordlord is meant to be in lore.

Dazzling Display means twirling your blade and doing slick pirouettes to show off your slick-sharp sword, while Quick Draw is... As you might guess, drawing your sword real fast. The Swordlord PrC lacks Iaido, so this does not mean a Mithral Current style slash-sheath and more "I'm showing off how good my fingers are on this handle."

Weapon Finesse for Dueling Mastery confirms the Dueling Sword is a Dex weapon.

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>dm throwing kuo-tao, yuan-ti and ninjas at us
>decide on a whim to look them up in the srd bestiary
>nothing, they aren't there
I feel like I earned it because I failed the twat test, but then I was told that I was fairly fucked because none of the above are tip toed around.
>later learn that the giant river viper we ran into was either the local yuna-ti god, or it's avatar, who asked us to WIPE OUT the yuan-ti
>totally wrapped up in something way over our heads

>>52422358
So dex-based bushi ZS warder with scarlet throne style, and perform dance as slick pirouettes with sword.

>>52422394

Yup yup, you got it!

>>52422432
And if Mithral Current doesn't fully fit the swordlord idea, then maybe he's going to start his own sword practice. With blackjack and hookers.

Unironically. The training grounds would also be a hedonistic casino or something.

>Most of the Blingmaker apps have character quotes
Is this the new thing?

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>>52422622
The first few had em so the rest of us copied them.

>>52422622
It's as >>52422641 says, all the cools kids had it and I just wanted to fit in.

Why does a selfish Magic user care about the Stolen Lands?

>>52422734

Maybe they want to steal them?

>>52422734

Because they could rule the Stolen Lands?

>>52422734
It's pretty easy to fit a lot of different characters into Kingmaker because a big part of the premise is that there're riches and power involved here.

>>52422734
Because there's something there he wants. Wealth? Knowledge? Power? That's up to you.

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>>52422745
Is it believable that someone would take the risk, or must they be insane too? I usually play altruistic heroes; trying to get into a dickhead headspace

>>52422772

Not all dickheads are pussies; some are actually willing to do horrible and dangerous things for money and power.

>>52422818
Alright. What's a good sympathetic hook for a greedy, spiteful, mean-spirited Magic user?
Do they need something to stop the audience from hating them, or should I just embrace being a shitbag?

What is the general racial demographics of brevoy/the rostlands?

>>52422866

Almost entirely human with a smattering of Dwarves and Gnomes.

There's a couple Centaur herds in the area, but they aren't numerous.

>>52422885
What ethnicities?

>>52422894
>What ethnicities?

Issian, Rostlander and Kellid.

Issian are a cross between the Kellid, a smattering of Taldan and mostly Ulfen. They tend towards pale skin and blonde hair. Rostlanders are the opposite; mostly Taldan and Kellid with a smattering of Ulfen.

>Rostland
>Rostlandi are simple farmers, craftsmen, and tradesmen, possessing outgoing and happy personalities. The people of Rostland are welcoming of strangers, but do require that visitors to their land conform to the plentiful and intricate local customs. Obsessed with honor and personal standing, Rostlandi are easy to provoke or offend, and one wrong word can quickly find the offender in front of the local magistrate or in a personal duel. Despite their proud, parochial tendencies, Rostlandi make loyal allies and fast friends if outsiders prove their worth by learning and adhering to the native customs

>Issia
>The people of Issia are renowned as raiders and pirates though many Issians are simple fishermen or traders trying to make a living plying the waterways of the north. There have always been rumors that there was something odd about the folk of Issia with hushed whispers about them engaging in dark practices such as human sacrifices. Outsiders to this day often find themselves shunned in the smaller villages and rumor has it that the true masters of Issia lie beneath the freezing depths of the Lake of Mists and Veils

>>52422847
You could go Freudian and just give them a background that explains why they're a jerk and sets them up for wanting a better life for themselves at any cost. Lots of roguish types are motivated by comfort or envy.

Or you could have a convenient sick family member or dependent friend. Maybe move them into the Stolen Lands later.

>>52422847

Well, odds are you want your character to have something about them that makes your party not want to murder you and dump your corpse in a ditch. Whether that's "secretly isn't a total cockhole" or "is actually pretty funny" really depends on your group.

>>52422734
It's a perfect place to practice less-moral magic in privacy, and nobody will care if a few bandits go missing to help with your "studies".

Alternatively, the Stolen Lands are chocked full of fey and magical beasts. A mage needn't be amoral to think there's stuff to be learned out there.

Besides that, there's money and fame to be made, and anyone can be interested in that.

>>52422847
I would say go full shitbag but you probably need some redeeming qualities or else the rest of the party will end up wanting to get rid of you. I suggest a "even bad guys have principals" kind of thing, give him a few rules that he refuses to break and some justification for why these are lines he won't cross.

Alternatively, you could make him a shitbag with no redeeming qualities but have the party think he's got redeeming qualities. He lies to them about having some more altruistic motivations just to cover his ass... You risk going too edge with that though, so tread carefully.

So I know that 3.5e had a few infinite damage combos but does pathfinder have any? I remember something about a gnome paladin with a stance that Made its punch do infinite damage.

>>52423003
I actually only remember the 1d2 Crusader as the only infinite damage source in 3.5, other than things that simply could be increased to any arbitrary amount like the Cancer Mage. What were the others?

>>52422885
How about Half-elves? The wiki seems to suggest that there's "notable populations" of them.

>>52423003
Remember, it's not infinite, it's only nigh-infinite. The importance in d20 is different, because it's fundamental when it comes to statting Pun-pun

>>52423041

Restov is about as cosmopolitan as they get and, out of a population of 18k, 15k of that is Human and 1.2k is Dwarves.

There are only 240 half-elves in Restov. Odds are a half-elf character will know (either personally or, "I know a guy who knows a guy) every half-elf in the area.

>>52423085
I always enjoy thinking about populations where there're more half-elves than elves.

>>52423003
Wait, what's this about an infinite damage punch?

>>52423120

>240 half-elves
>130 elves

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>>52422981
>>52422936
>>52422920
Thanks for the pointers. I'm hoping to get out of my Good Cleric box soon.

>>52423135
Well they are called half of an elf for a reason.

>>52423135
They're all one dude's kids. It's like Korvosa.

What kind of names should a person from Brevoy have?

>>52423179
Cheeki breeki

>>52423140
I hope you've got a right-proper necromancer brewing back there! Don't see them very often for some reason.

Actually, the fact that Pharasma is commonly worshiped in the Brevoy but people in the River Kingdoms probably don't give much of a fuck about necromancy comparatively speaking would probably be a motivation to head down south too.

>>52423193
>Actually, the fact that Pharasma is commonly worshiped in the Brevoy

Something tickles me with how "Meat and Potatoes" the pantheon in Brevoy is.

Okay, so we worship Abadar, Gorum and Pharasma. One's for money, one's for war, and one's to make sure we get strong sons to carry on the line. They don't need that fancy artsy fartsy crap that Shelyn or Desna hocks.

Should I apply to Blingmaker? My main concern is that I know jackshit about kingdom building mechanics.

>>52423212
I want to bring the light of Love to Brevoy!

>>52423237
My experience with Kingmaker is that one person does all the work while everyone else fucks off. You might as well apply if you have an interest in it and a character.

>>52423212
Do you think a foreigner cleric of some other god seeing this as a good opportunity to spread their religion could be a fitting character?

>>52423237
Assuming it's not going to be too different from regular Kingmaker, the kingdom building stuff won't come up until the second book so you'd have time to learn them. They're not that complicated anyway, your kingdom basically has three stats that are like its saving throws, boosted by different buildings and such. You've got a fourth stat that's rolled to see how much money you make each month and a fifth stat that's used as the DC for basically all of the checks. That's pretty much it.

>>52423237

You can learn as you go, anon. We'll happily guide your hips.

The real question you and everyone else should be asking is; do I have the focus and drive to not only found a kingdom, but roleplay out my character's involvement in some aspect of the districts and bureaucracy?

Blingmaker does not need cold bean counters sitting from a lofty tower, pointing out places to construct more banks. It needs people who want to go down and walk among the people, interacting with the people actually operating those banks and maybe even starting up a side business.

>>52423277
>Do you think a foreigner cleric of some other god seeing this as a good opportunity to spread their religion could be a fitting character?

Depends on how foreign that god is, Rostlanders are a very parochial lot and might not take too kindly to some accented foreigner proselytizing to some Snake God.

>>52423237
If DHB gets in his autism will handle all the kingdom building work. It'll make sense that his character does it too since he's applying as a hyper jew.

>>52423306
Well, the Rostlanders that don't like it can stay in Rostland. We Stolen Lands boys down here.

>>52423312
>No interest in Kingmaker but want to play with DHB
hm

So weird thing with Scarlet throne style and ZS warder. You need a ST stance to qualify for the style, meaning if you want the style at level 3, you have two options. Circular stance, which prevents flanking, or scarlet einhander which gives 1d6 and +2 shield ac. Obviously einhander is better since they both effectively get +2 ac when flanked, but einhander gets that +2 at all times, and damage bonus, whereas circular only does that, and I guess nulls out some sneak attacks.

But where this whole thing gets weird, is with using ST style, scarlet einhander, and the ZS warder's zweihander training. RAW you'd have the +2 shield AC from the stance, but when you drop into style, zweihander training activates, giving you + 1 shield ac which is immediately is overridden by einhander stance.

I guess if I use a different stance it'd still apply?

Someone explain to me, is there anything fun to be gotten from the Warp Sphere as a melee avowed?

>>52423263
No.

>>52423306
What if it's a really cute foreign goddess?

>>52423306
Brevans actually worship a shitton of Gods, it's just that Gorum, Pharasma, and Abadar are their main three.

>>52423346
Why do so many people want to play with DHB?

>>52423438
its just one guy being autistic.

>>52423438
When someone's been memed so much you get curious.

>>52423385
>which is immediately is overridden by einhander stance.

It's not overridden.

A ZS Warder using Einhander and STS has +3 AC to shield.

Grab Dueling Mastery, and now you have +5.

>>52423460
I thought shield ac bonuses don't stack?

>>52423438
They want to find out if what they say is true about DHB downstairs, Anon.

>>52423469
correct

>>52423479
So why would the einhander stance and zweihander trainign stack?

>>52423469
>>52423479

I'd ask the DM for his ruling on this one, since you can make a very strong case from a fluff perspective that a ZS in Einhander *should* have +3 AC from being a damn good parry.

>>52423496
They don't

It's worth mentioning that Restov is an incredibly well-kept and pleasant city to live in or even just visit; Taldan that journey to the city describe it as "proper" and "civilized, if a little quaint."

>>52423524
So anon lied to me? Why would he do such a thing?

>>52423497
mechanically shield bonuses never stack

>>52423563
because a bunch of people in this thread don't know how shit works

>>52423563

I JUST WANTED YOU TO BE HAPPY AND EFFECTIVE ;_;

>>52423594
You meant well, friend, you meant well.

Y'know, I really wish Kingmaker had more significant NPCs to latch onto, without any sense of where the campaign's going to start and how (with a festival, in a specific town, in response to a specific event like a funeral or call for aid), there's really nothing to help tie PCs to the campaign.

Unless, perhaps, someone could give spoiler-free suggestions on that point? Are there any potential patrons, rivals, or waifus to be found in Kingmaker?

>>52423622
You could FUCK the Dragon Girl Bloodrager app. She sounded really cute.

>>52423622
>Unless, perhaps, someone could give spoiler-free suggestions on that point?

You and the rest of the party are traveling to Oleg's Trading Post, the last homely house before you truly hit rugged wilderness.

Oleg's Trading Post is ran by Oleg and Svetlana, his wife. This is the first, and one of the very few, examples of a husband/wife pair you meet in a Pathfinder AP.

Hell, the entire campaign is refreshing in how "traditional" everything feels, (spoilers) the vast majority of bandits you fight are men, and in fact the sole female bandit is noted as only being a bandit because she murdered the first man that tried to rape her, and the Stag Lord really liked that sort of gumption.

>>52423637
Lewd! Still waiting for Kingmaker to start. Maybe if you romance her gently, she might be inclined to give her noble self to an inferior being...

>>52423664
>Maybe if you romance her gently, she might be inclined to give her noble self to an inferior being...

Anon, allow me to offer an alternative

Just... Wait for it. Kingmaker does not have many NPCs, but it *does* expect the DM to create NPCs.

Yes, anon. This means exactly what you think it means. The DM will build a custom waifu for your character. He'll build a custom waifu or husbando for all your characters.

>>52423637
Lovely as that sounds, I feel it's poor form to build a character based on wanting to fuck another PC. Though if said bloodrager has a type, I might be open to suggestions.

What's some good bits of Brevic lore that could actually make for a decent hook? So far, I'm basically going with a concept of "Yo, FUCK this place and its stuck-up swordsmen. They want to pretend I'm the one without honor? Fine, I'll become the biggest 'villain' they've ever seen!"

>>52423193
The problem with Necromancers is, well, wealth. Equipping undead troops is pretty tolling if you rely on WBL.

In Blingmaker, though...

>>52423678
...Fuck, now I have to make the ideal romantic counterpart to my own ideal waifu.

This just sounds like it will lead somewhere very depressing.

Do any Golarion deities have a wolf as their holy animal? I want to go full awoo.

>>52423154
Half-elves and Half-elves birth more half-elves, though!

>>52423702
>tfw building husbando to match your waifu
>tfw comparing custom built husbando to self
>the gap is widening over time
This is a dark road you travel.

>>52423688
>What's some good bits of Brevic lore that could actually make for a decent hook?

Which characters is yours?

Also it's kind of flattering to say you want to fuck another PC!

>>52423721

Ashava! The goddess of lonely people and dancers!

http://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Ashava

>>52423721
Still looking, but the only ones I can find are Jezelda, the demon lord of werewolves, and...well, I'm pretty sure the Prince in Chains still technically counts as lupine.

>>52423744
The obvious solution is to change your ideal waifu.

>>52423748
>Also it's kind of flattering to say you want to fuck another PC!
>flattering

Was that what that was during the PLD era?

I'd run a game for /pfg/ if it wasn't in danger of memes and lewd bullshit.

>>52423764
>comprimising ideals
I'll take the [persist on being a superhero] option.

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>>52423764

>tfw the DM will never *ever* make my ideal waifu

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>>52423678

>tfw he cheerfully ignores the players' actual tastes
>tfw he gives the heroic young warrior looking for a maiden fair a big bara birdman or something

>>52423795
Bro, you've got a lewd, memeworthy concept? Don't be afraid; embrace it. I want to play in your game!

>>52423622
>there's really nothing to help tie PCs to the campaign

I've actually realized this and am planning on writing a blurb that will give people a better idea of how their characters would have learned of/been selected for this job. That along with which which disciplines would be associated with the different noble houses have been the main thing I've been working on today for the game.

>>52423193
>>52423695
Necromancers are fine (a lot of NPC will give you some grief over it though), but I'm not inclined to have a handful of minions for a PC to manage during a fight. Part of the reason I banned Summoner. Now on the other hand, having some zombies to stay behind and guard the city or castle while the PCs are out adventuring makes some amount of sense, and spending money on equipping them (or any guards that stay at HQ for that matter) is the sort of thing that wouldn't have to come out of the PCs' Hoards.

>>52423748
Really, I'm flexible (read: easy) enough that I could probably find myself attracted to most PCs in some way. Dragon-girl is just a bit more appealing in that she's the sort of build I would be going for if I wasn't so interested in being a black knight for what looks like more of a bog standard "knights and dragons" kind of region.

>>52423781
>>52423795
Also, this. I'd really rather talk Brevoy and background writing than go too far off-topic.

>>52423795
Lewd, memes and /pol/ spewage are all a pointless risk of engaging with /pfg/ in private. Just go outside to meet people.

>>52423744
>Not just building your dream husbando and letting the waifus come to your dream husbando
>Not turning them away so you can keep your dream husbando pure

>>52423825
Wait, so the black knight's going to fuck the Dragon Girl?

>>52423840
"If she breathe, she a thot" - Jesus.

>>52423829
But the people I met fucked my wife and now my life is over. /pfg/ is safe. None of you niggas are cucking anybody.

>>52423825
>looks like more of a bog standard "knights and dragons" kind of region.

Is there anything actually wrong with that?

I mean, can we all take a moment to appreciate or even acknowledge that, of all the places in Golarion, Brevoy is probably the only one that feels like a "traditional" fantasy setting? After handling strange spices and weird combinations for years and years, isn't it nice to settle down for some meat and potatoes?

>>52423815
No, I don't.

My concept is super rough right now, not really developed beyond "the party are from a guild of monster hunters that specialize in lycantrhropes" but that'd probably work better as a oneshot.

>>52423871
>he doesn't spice his potatoes with anything

what a sad, sad life you must live

>>52423871
>inb4 everyone applies with fucking weird kung fu swordsmen, slutty dragons, and Memelords

>>52423885

The spice is gratuitous amounts of Fae and kingdom building!

>>52423871
It should be, but Brevoy's presentation is really lacking--probably because the AP writers never planned on using the country at all.

Brevoy should be a delicious steak with some potatoes on the side, maybe with some gravy. Brevoy as it is is a microwave dinner with freeze-dried mashed potatoes and a hunk of rather suspect "Salisbury steak"

>>52423883
>lycanthropes

Instantly lewd.

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>>52423840

>mfw all the male characters will need wives
>mfw all those husbandos

>>52423910
God damn it.

My setting has a mix of high magic and low magic locations and I wanted to run a low-magic monster hunting game, with a good portion of it being urban murder mysteries and whatnot.

>>52423846
Ahh, dragon fucking. Knighthood's highest calling.

What VMCs have good synergy with a Cavalier? I'm thinking Bard to go with Order of the Cockatrice.

>>52423963
Oracle is full of good VMC options.

>>52423926

>Someone's going to marry DHB

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>>52423846

The black knight will fuck whoever or whatever he so chooses.

>>52423926

Can the PCs not marry? That seems very sweet if everyone just pairs off.

>>52423678
No, anon! I already made waifus for the players in my campaign! It's my turn for a husbando!

>>52423825
>black knight
>black
>knight
You're meeting all her standards!

Please be intelligent. She's hella dumb.

>>52423999

They can, or they can marry other PCs.

In fact, marriage has mechanical benefits. Don't believe me? A King uses their Charisma bonus for their Kingdom rolls, however if he's married he can ADD his wife's Charisma bonus as well. A 14 Cha King with an 18 Cha wife will be rolling +6, instead of +2.

>>52423887
>wake up at the crack of 1 pm
>Check the /pfg/ thread on my phone
>See that a new roll20 game was announced
>Rush to my high end PC, as I need a dedicated shitposting machine for this.
>Don't even put on pants
>Check game listing for setting and chargen
>Start edging
>Immediately open up 37 tabs in chrome
>Half are related to a high powered 3pp build
>The other half are all related to my fetishes
>You gotta "keep the juices flowing" for the creativity to work
>Easy, since still don't have any pants on
>Check thread for any topics to meme into something more
>Find one
>itsatrap.jpg
>Slam out a sheet on mythweavers
>Browse exhentai for character art, using the NTR, Ahegao, and Rape tags
>Flail wildly at keyboard until there's enough to justify the retard build you've made
>Submit the app to the roll20 page with no formatting
>Finish edging, spraying cum wildly all over monitor and keyboard
>Shill character until game apps close
>Shit up thread and discord with salt about not getting in, even if you did get in.
>If accepted, proceed to post blushing anime girls and ERP with fellow 30 year old fat NEETs.

>>52424054
Racial penalty aside, he's certainly no fool.

>>52423926
>>52423987
DHB's gonna be a Prophet of Kalistrade, who are almost entirely celibate and are forbidden from coming into physical contact with others. If he intentionally comes into physical contact he loses spellcasting.

>>52424055
That's not how it works IIRC. There's two Ruler spots and the spouse or husband gets to take up the second position.

While you could add both their Cha mods to the same kingdom stat, you can also split them into two stats.

>>52424086

He can come into contact while performing their duties as a spouse!

>>52424089

Isn't that the same result? A king can have a queen whose bonus adds into his.

>>52424121
>He can come into contact while performing their duties as a spouse!
Sex in the missionary position for the sole purpose of procreation?

>>52424121
You could do that or you could have the Queen add her bonus to another stat. Instead of putting +6 into Economy, you could split it +2 to Loyalty and +4 to Economy.

>>52424146

Yes, that is what I was implying.

Or just sex in general, spouses are expected to fuck.

>>52424070

This is way too real to my life.

>>52424160
>spouses are expected to fuck.
disgusting

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>>52424180
Don't forget to reply with a ton of spoilers

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>>52424070

>>52424070
>itsatrap.jpg
My sides.

>>52424086
Yeah, but he can still build a golem out of money and program it to fuck your waifu.

>>52424070
>>52424180
I should quit before I fall this far. I'm still here for adventure and the bare minimum floor of efficiency.

What's your character's theme song?

This is a question mainly for Blingmaker applicants, but don't let yourself think I don't want to hear yours, too, if you're not applying.

>>52424160
Yeah, but they're not expected to fuck other people, contrary to what she might have thought

I don't plan on being a dedicated jouster, but I do like the idea of having a mount, especially in Kingmaker. Is there a bare minimum of what I should invest in terms of mount usage, or can I just put a rank in Ride for now and then later use Monstrous Companion or something?

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>>52424070

>>52424233
For hedonist swordlord:
https://youtu.be/9D-QD_HIfjA

>>52424230
I just love the fact that the Gilded template is basically proof that the Prophesies of Kalistrade work, because you literally become immortal once you become wealthy enough.

>>52424253

Anon, become the founder of a demigryph knight corps, form the Winged Hussars and become a legend.

>>52424233
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClBLRj0RtSo

>PLD is over
>LoBaF and Shardwalkers already overshadowed by WWW and Blingmaker
I am genuinely curious what determines which games /pfg/ runs away with and which ones are left alone.

>>52424233
Spider Lover
had this on loop for chargen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON-7v4qnHP8

>>52424291
>Isis training camp
>unpopular
Who'd have thought?

>>52424233
Prison Sex, by Tool
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gf1vC8ubnkY

Character is a disgraced Heretic Cleric of Shelyn feebly trying to redeem himself by bringing his misguided version of the faith to Brevoy and the Stolen lands.

>>52424291
Whether someone starts talking about making a waifu character.

LoBaF and Shardwalkers didn't tout themselves as being lewd or having fat-jugged sluts, nor did anybody apply with an app that was basically "She's got rad tits."

If they had, every Anon and his dog would have been rushing off to make a character in the hopes that they'd be the one to bang the hot chick.

>>52424233

In the Woods Somewhere

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sDaGSJpGMmA

Would it be Anti-Fun to make a Blingmaker app that's an Urgathoan firebrand hellbent on corrupting and destroying the debased Followers of Kalistrade for their impotent, sterile lives spent squandering the opportunity to convert their wealth into grotesque displays of excess and sensual pleasures?

>>52424339

Yes

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>>52424233
Out of my way friendos, superior theme song coming through. DJ Kalistrade time.

https://youtu.be/ci0hAQfxdt0

>>52424339
Considering that there are no followers of the Prophecies in Brevoy apart from other PCs, yes, that's in startlingly poor taste. Your app would essentially be specifically targeted at one other PC, and sound intended to exploit them rather than work with them.

>>52424291
>>PLD is over

Which girl won the prize that is Sigmund's dick?

>>52424339
Considering DHB is likely going to be the only Prophet of Kalistrade you encounter it would mean you specifically made a character to try and undermine DHB.

>>52424347

Lemme fix that for you.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ON-7v4qnHP8

>>52424368
Gloriana

>>52424309
So there's an alternate universe out there where Amalthea didn't withdraw from LoBaF, PLD passed by quietly, and WWW didn't kick off because everyone was busy making daddy's for Amalthea's children?

>>52424372
>>52424347
Alternatively,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQrdKtPJxI0

>>52424318
Which character is yours, Anon? I love this song. Are you playing as the narrator? Or the monster? or the fox?

>>52424383
christ.

>>52424383
I'd like that, but then that'd probably mean no Dragons2, and I'd rather that game have happened even if I didn't get in.

>>52424291

LoBaF and Shardwalkers don't really have gimmicks that people can go wild speculating about. LoBaF made it pretty clear that it wasn't a 'lewd' campaign, so any obvious bait apps would just be discarded.

>>52424233
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn4k6TE-C4Y

Character is a harbinger being driven mad by the ghost of his former mentor.

>>52424233
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5JNqS2eiJo

>>52424382
Already? That was a fast campaign. Did the clown get fucked?

>>52424408
The funny thing is that's not even what the GM said. It was just that fetish shit wouldn't help, he wasn't rejecting it out of hand.

That said, let's be honest: Fetish-bait apps are usually really fucking weak without the implicit promise that you'd be down to type-fuck the GM as thanks.

>>52424388

The narrator, but the "fox" and "monster" are included in the backstory.

>>52424233
It's cheating, but I've got two.
Personal Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VmRv8_vWjA
Combat Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JsWAGGGimQ

>>52424408
Well, there's nothing stopping anyone from making a lewd character for LoBaF--we've still got the better part of a week.

>>52424429

The clown is public use, so is Gloriana but it seems like she's for a preference.

RE: SoM;
After playing a quick game last weekend, the biggest take-away I had was that delayed damage pool plus easy access to multiple sources of temporary HP makes you nigh unkillable. Since delayed damage allows you to use tHP to empty your DD pool, you don't run into the "tHP don't stack" issue, and you can just empty your entire pool using multiple abilities. All I had was the Berserking base ability to lose AC and gain tHP, and Barroom's "Had a Few", and I'm pretty sure I didn't take a single point of actual HP damage the entire session, and I was the target of most of the attacks made by the enemies.

Using tHP to empty the DD pool needs to be cut, I think. Just have DD damage be applied to your tHP first, like any other type of damage.

>>52424272
You don't actually have to follow the prophecies' requirements and scriptures to get the Gilded template though. How would a Prophet of Kalistrade react to the situation of learning that although his beliefs of Money = Power and basically buying immortality are right, but that all the teachings he's been taught since youth were all wrong?

Honestly that seems like the best way to play a Prophet of Kalistrade in this game. They come into the campaign with conviction and belief in their ideals and do become fabulously wealthy, but they see their fellow PCs have been enriched equally despite their vices. Eventually, they have a crisis of faith, realizing that much of what they were taught was wrong, and having reached truly ridiculous levels of wealthy they descend into debaucheries that they had always been told were forbid.

>>52424233
My Inquisitor has seen some shit.

He watched his entire party be slaughtered by the demon he had sworn to kill. He fought on, ignoring the dying screams of his three comrades.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eGWf47So_M

I imagine this played as he fought that demon mano a mano and won.

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>>52424471
>mfw had pretty cool character idea right when LoBaF was announced
>mfw there was a rules kerfluffle and I lost motivation
>mfw things have settled down and what I intended to do is allowed
>mfw no motivation to work on the app for weeks now because I know I probably shouldn't join another game

>>52424272
Tell me more about this Gilded template I can't find it online.

>>52424492
This. All these other dudes are fucking chicks left and right and STILL getting superpowers. Kalistrade is garbage, you were lied to, snort as much cocaine and halfling bone dust off of elf booties as you possibly can before passing the fuck out and doing it again tomorrow!

>>52424430

I think the meaning is pretty clear on the GM's disclaimer that intentionally aiming towards lewd is discouraged and ill-fitting. The game will just have mature tones and maybe scenes at times.

>>52424527
>tfw making hedonism bot swordlord
>DHB might be in the same party
What a thrill

>>52424525
It's on the Blingmaker LFG page. Go read it.

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why don't you play big girls?

>>52424558
Fuck his waifu in the ass with a dueling sword!

>>52424492
>You don't actually have to follow the prophecies' requirements and scriptures to get the Gilded template though. How would a Prophet of Kalistrade react to the situation of learning that although his beliefs of Money = Power and basically buying immortality are right, but that all the teachings he's been taught since youth were all wrong?
Means he simply has to acquire enough currency to buy relay and change the rules so the prophesies do work. The endgame of the prophesies aren't just immortality, the end game is to eventually get enough capital to purchase reality.

And oh boy Asmodeus do I have an offer for you.

>implying DHB will be able to play Blingmaker once he gets into WWW

I'm already ahead of the game, plebians.

>>52424566
Because I want to hug_ them instead!

>Gilded Template
>Wealth and flaunting it is key

Why do I want to make Ornstein and his golden armor so bad now.

>>52424566
Playing a girl makes me feel weak in my masculine insecurities.

>Critical Genius /does/ stack with Keen
Oh baby.

>>52424566
I want to fuck women not be women.

>>52424566
Because I'd rather be the one who makes them happy than roll one and just hope the GM doesn't decide he's into rape.

>>52424571
He hasn't applied to WWW yet! He might drop it for Blingmaker.

>>52424594
>he doesn't want his character to get raped

What are you, gay?

>>52424571
>Implying DHB will be able to play WWW once he gets into LoBaF
Nigga don't know about reverse-trap DHB.

Which weapon is closest to the Balder Side Sword?

>>52424233
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoP5NGLsWR0

Basically your generic bandit/mercenary made paladin. I like him though.

>>52424602
Probably a rapier.

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>>52424566
Because I like small girls!

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>>52424615
I was hoping you wouldn't say that...

>>52424571
Reverse trap DHB has already solved the formula. Have you looked at it? It has the Sleepy trait.

Tiny sleepy reverse trap. Flat, poor, magic sword, what's not to love?

>>52424566
I would, but the only time I make female characters, they end up tieflings and I can't bring myself to actually try to play them because #83.

>>52424602
>>52424623
Estoc with Weapon Versatility so you can do slashes.

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>>52424566

post big girl archetypes for me to play.

>>52424636
Hmm, an Estoc eh? A 2d4 weapon could work.

Thanks.

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>>52424640

>>52424233
Not for Blingmaker but for another /pfg/ game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1lpWdU3GX0

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>>52424640

>>52424640
>>52421521
>>52421566
>>52421415
>>52421277
>>52421246
>>52421229
>>52421217
>>52421215
>>52421190
Take your pick.

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>>52424682
>>52424681
>>52424653

That's character art! Not character IDEAS!

>>52424696
Somebody made an archetype where you gain power from fat, and there's a Gonzo class that's themed around eating things (and people). Those might work.

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>>52424696
Oh sorry, here's this to make up for it.

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This is your Blingmaker character tonight.

>>52424525
It's a custom template the DM made for Blingmaker. Basically, you get extra powers for being rich. The template has ten tiers, and at each tier you gain either a bonus feat or a bonus to an ability score of your choice, alternating between the two. You also get abilities like being able to conjure golden items out of thin air, being able to add big bonuses to skill checks, and eventually being able to bribe your way out of death- all of these powers being fueled by money you've absorbed or stuck in a hoard somewhere.

Fluff-wise though the DM hasn't said much about it other than that it's not a template anybody is born with, you gain it from interaction with... something. Probably plot related, but the PCs are suppose to get the template early on..

>>52424717
>also posts with pixiv filename
He a tru nigga.

>>52424717
Okay.

>>52424717
Wait a fuck, are those fae trapped in the lantern?

>>52424696
Arena champion who wants to get swole enough to break open the gates of Heaven and challenge the Gods themselves. Optionally, she may be trying to win back some departed loved one's soul rather than just trying to prove she can.

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>>52424696
>>52424640

This is everything you need, From Gonzo 2


Rotund Recoil
The fortitude of your girth allows you to absorb and redirect the force of impacts made upon
your body.
PREREQUISITES: Toughness, Strength or Constitution 13.
BENEFIT: You may gain DR/slashing or piercing equal to your Strength or Constitution modifier, whichever is higher, to a maximum of your character level. If this DR successfully reduces damage from a melee attack, you may, as an immediate action make an bull rush attempt on your attacker. You may not follow the creature that you bull rush with this bull rush attempt. You may substitute your Strength modifier with the Strength modifier of
your opponent targeted by this bull rush attempt, when making a bull rush attempt in this manner.

>>52424569
Yeah but why would he do that? If he's already got a fat wallet and superpowers from being rich, but it turns out the prophecies were lies, seems like he'd be more inclined to say "fuck the prophecies!" Even if he could get rich enough to buy reality (which doesn't seem like something the Gilded template does), why would he be inclined to make the prophecies that only served to hold him back from enjoying life actually start working?

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>>52424566
Size increases are a trap option.

What's more endearing, Neutral Evil or Lawful Evil?

>>52424797
I wanna smash that titan, think she'd lemme smash?

>>52424640

Where do you keep finding these pictures of this girl cosplaying For Honor characters?

>>52424801
Lawful evil is a better team player. Neutral evil is a lot harder to find cute when she's stabbing you in the back.

>>52424804
I wanna smash the r@, think she'd lemme smash?

>>52424809

/fhg/ on /vg/

>>52424801
Chaotic Evil played for childishness.

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>>52424801
Lawful Evil

Neutral Evil has too many self-destructive tendencies.

>>52424801
Do you consider Patches The Hyena to be hilarious or endearing? If so, NE. If not, LE.

>>52424829
>>52424842
>>52424848
Does your answer change if it's a campaign themed around being a greedy shitter by design?

>>52424850
Kind of?

>>52424233
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6NXzLN3OHg

>>52424233
I'm not applying for any /pfg/ games but I've been lurking for about a week and felt like sharing.

For the old, stern and hopeful brutal slayer skinwalker I had join a game recently. She spent a good chunk of her life being a 'sellsword' she mostly fights with her claws. Would help people through the woodlands and mountains, was a hunter and gatherer for whatever town or village she stayed in at the time. Mostly lived just to 'survive'. Got fed up with the monotony and struck out to find purpose for her skills in hunting and fighting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzRk5EIHAoI

>>52424880
C O M F Y
O
M
F
Y
I want to share a drink with Anna while sitting around the campfire and have her fall asleep on my shoulder.

>>52424879
No.
Greedy shitters need to be able to default to helping their allies even despite an evil alignment, and LE gives a far stronger guarantee of that.

Backstabbing your team like Patches is not being just a greedy shitter. Backstabbing makes you a backstabber, and that's all you'll ever be thought of as, no matter what your character might have been otherwise.

>>52424880
I think Spice and Wolf is the only anime that I've watched in Russian, for the authentic feeling it added.

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>>52424879
Does he use the system and laws to finance his greed, or does he say "fuck the system" to fill his pockets?

>>52424233
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-VZ1KSGufU

>>52424233
I don't think I even HAVE a set theme song, but an anon posted this a few times for the future
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMSmi8ZOSno

>>52424943
I've got a little something like that in mind myself, but it's all up to my GM whether it ends up happening.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSsiLDd2AjI
or for a lighter tone,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cK329NBj55M

>>52424943
>that theme
Oh shit.

What's going to go down anon.

>>52424923
See, now I'm thinking maybe she struggles to be dependable and helpful, but she just keeps relapsing into being a greedy shitter, no matter how hard she tries not to, because it's just who she is on the inside. It might even eat her up inside, knowing she'll never really have any friends.

>>52424935
Toes the line until there's a clear shot at fat loot, and then it's every bitch for herself.

I am compiling money based abilities for my Prophet of Kalistrade.

Right now on the traits end I'm looking at:
>Extremely Fashionable
>Devotee of Kalistrade
>Kalistocratic Prophecy

Particularly Kalistocratic Prophecy is fantastic because it allows you to have constant get rich quick schemes.

Now for other abilities interacting with how much money you have. The Prophet of Kalistrade itself, but also the Silksworn Occultist and the Oracle's Covetous curse.

As well Noble Scion has a currency based class feature.

Does anyone else know of class features that directly interact with how much currency you have around? Possibly stuff from ultimate intrigue?

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>>52424566
I want to fuck - or occasionally play - hot women, not Lardron Tubbard.

>>52424990
Also Profits of Kalistrade are a must:
>http://archivesofnethys.com/FeatDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Profits%20of%20Kalistrade

>>52424974
Don't.
Inter-party conflict might make for a spicy greentext, but it's going to be terrible when it happens to you.

If you must pursue this idea, don't have them backslide in any fashion that will actually fuck over the other PCs without a plan to redeem yourself.

DO
>run away when things turn bad, but only after the meatshield gives you a nod and turns to buy you time
>immediately return with stealth and guile into the monster's lair to gather your teammates' bodies or unlock their cells

DO NOT
>steal from the group
>kill or attack another member of the group
>leave the group to die/stay dead

Seriously, even in an evil game, that's PC etiquette 101.

Am I allowed to complain about the Avowed again? Cause I don't like it. I really don't like it. Something as simple as porting the Warlock should not be this complicated or involve this much shenanigans.

>>52425045
>Am I allowed to complain about the Avowed again?
You are always allowed to complain about things you don't like, but there is a cabal of FFS fanboys who will do their best to shout you down for daring to voice an opinion that's different from theirs.

>>52425045
I don't think of Avowed as being like the Warlock anymore.
I think of it as being like the Warmage. Average at best on its own, but then once you find the one exploit or combo with another class, it's utterly broken.

>>52424990
Is Avowed available? Starting at 4th level, a Dragon-Pact Avowed gains direct benefits based on how much dosh they're carrying on them.

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>>52424566

THere needs to be more big girl adventurers. just in general.

>>52424990
I'd actually advise against Noble Scion, since it seems like the PCs should already be getting showered in money. Especially since the game looks to be set up where most of your money should go to flavor stuff and the gilded template, rather than more gear for your character, investing build currency into getting actual currency seems even more questionable than it normally is.

>>52424972
Who knows, anon, I certainly don't, aside from the fat that whatever it is will be a ways away before it happens, if at all.

>"You should be dead! You're not who I knew!"

>>52425035
>DO
>>run away when things turn bad, but only after the meatshield gives you a nod and turns to buy you time
>>immediately return with stealth and guile into the monster's lair to gather your teammates' bodies or unlock their cells
>
>DO NOT
>>steal from the group
>>kill or attack another member of the group
>>leave the group to die/stay dead

Evil Lewd Game group 1 TPK'd because of 2 out of 3 of these do nots happening in front of a Mythic enemy

Half the party wanted to fight the Mythic enemy, the other half wanted to side with it to raise their survival chances.

>>52425035
I think Inter-party conflict can be spicy and nice when everyone agrees to it before hand.

>>52424990
Not really based off your money, and it's sorta shit, but
http://d20pfsrd.opengamingnetwork.com/classes/prestige-classes/other-paizo/c-d/divine-assessor/

if they actually adventured then they wouldn't be big girls. The only acceptable fatty, male or female, is a wizard.

>>52425114
You can be strongfat, like a proper weightlifter. Fighters and Barbarians can be strongfat!

>>52425111
A duel can be fun. A rivalry is great. A romantic rivalry is fine too.
But the moment it escalates, it's not fun anymore. It's a personal vendetta. Nobody should, or will, enjoy a game where they have to dip Barbarian just to keep the party Assassin from turning on them. And yes, that is the voice of experience talking. I fucking warned the bastard, and he tried it anyway.

>>52425035
Oh, absolutely. I'm not a monster, Anon. Perpetrating inter-party conflict is gross. I just want to play a bad person who sometimes wishes they were better, but just can't deliver the commitment.

>>52425114
DHB made a 600lbs nudist monk.

>>52425162
one time I sneezed and my nipples got hard

>>52425177
Show me!

>>52425058
And they're entitled to their opinions. I have personal grievances with Taveena I ran a knight game where the premise was literally "save princesses, slay dragons" and they bailed on me after the fourth or so session before the campaign got anywhere but after they integrated themselves into the plot and I was still a newbie GM so the game ended up miscarried. I don't hold it against them because their style of play (nonlethal) could have interacted poorly with the murderhoboism of the rest of the party and the rollercoaster of shenanigans with Avowed have turned me off of it.

>>52425059
Doesn't that make it even worse? The Warlock at least seemed reasonable, with no OUTRIGHT broken combinations (as far as I remember), but if it's like the Warmage in that regard then... fuck.

I guess I'll be one of those shitters who doesn't allow Avowed at the table

As much as I /love/ the concept and the idea of the Warlock from 3.5e I just cannot get behind this iteration of it.

>>52425186
I can't do it on command you nerd I said it happened one time

>>52425035
Inter-party conflict is my favorite thing in RPGs it allows you to develop multiple characters at the same time.
>Play Ogre in WHRP 2ed.
>Horribly overpowered, I was able to fight 9 beastmen by myself easily.
>Constantly cause trouble by either grabbing the Innkeeper's daughter or by cursing out the Captain of the Guard.
>Walk up behind the party's elf wizard and tell her that I'm going to eat her all the time.
>Drama is created when the party's leader(Who was in a relationship with the Elf) has to decide whether or not to keep me around since while I cause trouble I have singlehandedly saved a bunch of their lives multiple times.
It was really really fun roleplay. The one thing I do hate though is bringing dice to inter-party conflict. I think once people start rolling against each other they shift into "game" mode and start caring about winning rather than the narrative.
I like to just /em out fist fights and screaming matches rather than start rolling unarmed attacks.

>>52425250
Really, any form of actual conflict that isn't planned out beforehand as one would a pro wrestling mach is going to make people shift into "game" mode.

Narrated conflict is actually worse than using dice. Nobody is going to want to lose, and the second somebody notices an opening, they'll start whining to the GM that the other guy isn't playing fair.

Guys, I never planned on her being a team-killing shitter. More of a "betray the noble shitbags for a bigger payout" shitter.

>>52425335
And when the biggest payout isn't offered by her team?

>>52425335
I'd recommend this: If you can stomach making her Neutral or Lawful Neutral rather than NE or LE, do so. You lose nothing, you raise a lot fewer red flags, and you make it a whole lot easier for her to improve.

>>52425335
>>52425355
>>52425358
The goal, in all things, is always more currency. The party is the best path to acquire the most funds possible. I'm still gonna do the kingdom building party since I know others won't want to and embezzle funds from half the city.

So what's the consensus on the Two Weapon Fighter archetype, and does it no longer work if I have more than two weapons?

>>52425370
Embezzlement sounds delightful.

>>52425358
I'll give it a shot. Neutral with Evil tendencies might capture her.

>>52425355
Then she'll have to balance the dosh to be gained against her feelings for the lovable knave that saved her from those unruly faerie and see what breaks first.

>>52425195
>xao

This explains a lot.
have you even read the class in full or are all your opinions off secondhand information?

>>52424586
Yo, money. What is this Critical Genius you speak of?

>>52425295
I think it really depends on who you're playing with. I used to do a lot of MMO RP and I found that usually the people with good characters would be totally willing to get their asses beat if it made sense in the situation. I remember one of the most fun fights I ever had was a guy who was the personal bodyguard of the minister and basically that server's version of Gregor Clegane beat the shit out of five of us. Stabbing one guy, flipping the table onto two others. It was a totally one sided beatdown when the guy was outnumbered but afterwards once people found out he was treated like even more of an unstoppable monster which was the goal.
Its funny you say that because I'm a huge pro wrestling fan and would always whisper guys saying "Just get your shit in, I'll sell for you." when people asked if I wanted to use dice.

>>52424627
That sounds cute.

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>>52424640
You like gnolls, right?

>tfw you make fetish apps for reviews, discussion, and loads of hate
I am sustained by feedback memes and salt.

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>>52425625
>tfw you do the same
>tfw DHB always gets way more hate/salt/memes
>tfw he doesn't even make fetish apps
IT'S NOT FAIR

>>52425654
Meme yourself better

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>>52425654
Gotta get cute art.

>>52425605
No! Their dicks are too big!

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Post yfw they release the logs

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>>52424640

>>52425605

But anon, gnolls don't start with Common. How are we supposed to sing some decent drinking songs if they don't even know the language, let alone the words?

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>>52425771
Post yfw Vult is as shit at ERP as he is at everything else.

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So what're some things Mesmerist gestalts well with? Of those, which are best for healing?

Also, self-hypnosis archetype when?

>>52425868
>post yfw DHB takes you to his magical realm it's despair all the way down

>>52425861
That's what having one point in Linguistics is for.

>>52425896
>healing

Vitalist or Medic are pretty much your entire list of options for effective combat healers that aren't better off fighting instead of healing.

Vitalist is psionic and links the party up into a psychic collective that allows sharing hit points and healing and draining hp from enemies, Medic is an initiator that gets to heal people as swift actions in between other things.

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Freshmang GM here, recently started using this system since i got tired of GURPS bullshit. I'm in the middle of running my first campaign with the system (which is going surprisingly well) but i have a few questions.

1: What makes a Wizard as strong as a Sorcerer? the Sorc just seems objectively better imo.
2: What is the difference between Orisons and Cantrips?
3: Why is magic so fucking confusing to work with?

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>>52426026
>Forgetting a Life Spherecaster.

Sasuga.

>>52426039
Wizards can just fucking buy new spells. They have no limit to the number of spells they can 'know' whereas a Sorcerer is harshly limited.

Orisons and Cantrips are the same thing. Just one is Divine and the other is Arcane.

Magic's confusing because MUH LEGACY. Vancian Magic is a pox.

>>52426039
1: Wizards effectively have unlimited known spells if they have the spellbooks to lug around, and adventures rarely put actual time pressure on the players, so the wizard can often safely retreat and then prepare different spells to better suit the situation at hand. The sorcerer, on the other hand, is stuck with what he's got aside from retraining, which costs money and takes days or weeks at a time.

2: None. They're mechanically identical and just have different names to distinguish "0-level divine spell" from "0-level arcane spell".

3: What's confusing you about it?

>>52426039
Wizard gets new more powerful spells a level earlier and has no limit on the amount of spells known.
It's fluff. Orisons are divine, cantrips are arcane.
Jack Vance.

>>52426039
>1: What makes a Wizard as strong as a Sorcerer? the Sorc just seems objectively better imo.
A Sorcerer is limited by the fact they have "spells known". Taking a level 4 sorcerer for example you know 3 first level spells of your choice, 1 first level bloodline spell, and 1 second level spell for 5 spells total. If a situation arises that isn't covered by these 5 spells your shit out of luck.

Compare a level 4 wizard. He will have anywhere between 11 and 15 spells from just class features, and unlike the sorcerer he can gain new spells.

He packs a large amount of versatility that the sorcerer does not have and each day can change what situations he can tackle.

>2: What is the difference between Orisons and Cantrips?
One is Divine and one is Arcane. Divine magic does not suffer Arcane Spell Failure chance, which basically means when wearing armor it's hard to make the hand gestures requires to cast spells, and thus in armor casting spells that require somatic components (components with hand gestures) will fail a percentage of the time. Divine spells do not have this issue.

>3: Why is magic so fucking confusing to work with?
Big game mostly.

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What class should I play if my only concern is carrying around a housecat companion?

>>52426064
>>52426076
>2: None. They're mechanically identical and just have different names to distinguish "0-level divine spell" from "0-level arcane spell".
>It's fluff. Orisons are divine, cantrips are arcane.

Come on guys. One has ASF and one doesn't. That's the difference.

>>52426111
What do you want to do that isn't carrying around a housecat?

Rather, what are you going to do that makes you useful enough that the party isn't going to kick you out for being a useless crazy cat lady?

>>52426014

And what if they're a 2+INT class and decided they have more important priorities than talking to all them hairless types?

It's not unlikely, given they apparently don't even bother wearing pants out where they're from.

>>52426111
Lots of classes get familiars and lots of archetypes get familiars. You can also do it as any class by spending 2 feats. Having a house cat is really easy.

>>52426122
I don't really care, I just want the absolute best excuse I can have for carrying a housecat around into dungeons, formal occasions, and baths.

>>52426126
You can learn additional languages without increasing your Int or putting ranks in linguistics!

You can learn extra languages equal to your Int Mod+1!

>>52426138
Be a wizard with a cat familiar. Crank up the weird wizard quality.

>>52426140
You can?

>>52426153
Yep! It's in the retraining rules, but doesn't actually require you to lose anything!

>New Language

>You can spend time to learn an additional language. It takes 20 days of training to gain a bonus language, and these days need not be consecutive. Each language requires a trainer who shares a language with you and knows the language you want to learn, or a book written in a language you know that explains the basics of the language you want to learn.

>The new language does not count toward your maximum number of languages (racial languages + bonus languages from Intelligence + Linguistics ranks). You can train this way only a number of times equal to 1 + your Intelligence bonus.

>>52426153
Through downtime retraining rules.

>>52426062
>>52426064
>>52426076
>>52426099
Thanks for all the responses, really helped with a lot of stuff.
For the question about what confused me about magic, it is mainly concentration checks and saves against magic. As far as I understand, magic always hits and can only be resisted if it is an effect. While casting provokes an AoO, there seems to be no check for casting a spell if you are uninterrupted.
I get that this might be true, but it also seems kind of weird.

Anyway thanks for all the help, you just saved me hours staring at rulebooks.
A small bonus question if you have the time: Do you know any website or pdf that explains the levelup system in a manner that doesn't hurt to try and comprehend? i get that may sound a bit whiny, but it's somewhat difficult to grasp since me and all my players have never touched the system before.

>>52426163

Huh. I may just be able to share a shitload of rude songs with pantsless gnolls after all.

How many languages would one have to take to almost guaranteedly be able to communicate with pretty ladies of just about any race?

>>52426208
Magic doesn't ALWAYS hit. Some magic uses ranged touch attacks (Which target Touch AC) and some target saves. Some target both.

And yes, if unmolested, there's no check involved to cast spells under normal circumstances.

And what's confusing about the level up system? People get exp, when they have enough, they level up and get the stuff from their next level.

>>52426210
Common, Tian, Halfling, Elven, Dwarven, Undercommon, Sylvan, Polyglot, Infernal, Abyssal, Celestial, Necril, and Draconic. You don't have any elemental languages, so unfortunately particularly-attractive water sprites or efreeti might be out of your reach, but most of them are still able to speak one of the above languages anyway.

>>52426209
Also, Legacy of Blood and Flame's GM has a homebrewed race trait that gives you Common as a bonus language. Other GMs probably won't let it fly, but it's worth a shot.

>>52426233
It's more of 'what' they get when they level up. We had a cleric that reached level 2, but both of us sat up an entire night trying to figure out exactly what he gained from it.

>>52421793
Our DM makes it very clear that if someone is King and not presented as an utter buffoon then he'll know very well how to avoid being assassinated, because he's survived attempts many times before. Also, the DM has an annoying habit of making Kings or Queens CONQUERER Kings, which means they're level 17+ and decked in ridiculous gear.

>>52426208
>As far as I understand, magic always hits and can only be resisted if it is an effect
If you see shit like "ranged touch effect", "touch effect", etc. then you need to roll against touch AC. There's not that many spells that hit 100% of the time.

>>52426210
>laughing-wizard-using-Tongues.png
At the same time though a Wizard is going to know batshit insane amounts of languages from game start just from their massive INT.

>>52426266
In the rulebook, flip to the class chapter, plus the character advancement page. Classes have their own levelup features and character advancement is shit that everyone gets 100% of the time just from levelling up.

>>52426266
>When adding new levels of an existing class or adding levels of a new class (see Multiclassing, below), make sure to take the following steps in order. First, select your new class level. You must be able to qualify for this level before any of the following adjustments are made. Second, apply any ability score increases due to gaining a level. Third, integrate all of the level’s class abilities and then roll for additional hit points. Finally, add new skills and feats.

That's a fairly alright checklist.

Long story short...

HP, Saves, Skill Points, Feats at every odd level, +1 to an ability score of your choice at every 4th.

Favored Class Bonuses.

And then all the class features and spells as dictated by the class page.