Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

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Reminder that Aeldari are the most powerful race in the galaxy.

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>>52371749
>implying

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>>52371749
>implying

>>52371777
stop with this spamming shit. that hasn't been the real thread all day, stop trying to force it

>>52371777
FUCK OFF. That thread is ancient. And dead

>>52371777
But in all seriousness
KYS

>>52371805
>report
>hide
>move on
>see him next thread or when this one reaches bump limit because god forbid the mods actually do something for once

>>52371777
Excellent trips.

Please drink poison.

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>>52371777
>he's still shilling his bait thread
Report and ignore

Pro-tips for Guard and getting more pysker support? Are psyker primaris's good? How do I get gud with the one aspect of the game I never use but want to start

These thread wars are fucking goddamn retarded

You dumbasses do realize that you're the ones ruining this thread by spamming ineffectual replies to an inconsequential little shitpost, right?

>>52371868
Just ally SM librarians formation and spam their op powers

>>52371872
It's not a war when it's just a single dude screaming loudly and being ignored by the mods who should've deleted that entire thread and all traces of it about 16 hours ago already.

>>52371749
>Aeldari

CHEETAH-ANON, I SUMMON THEE

To actually get our cogitators working, let's post some aspect of your army that you wish were better and see what others can come up with to fix it.

>Black Templars Chapter tactics, characters, Crusaders and gameplay style

>>52371899
dubs of truth

>>52371909
I miss him already.

Mods please, let us make a trade.

>>52371698
How much do you think will be the change to 8ed? I started a skitarii army but I'll rather not expand the army if everything goes AoS style, mostly because it would become joke rules for most armies and probably just numarines and khorne for the next two years

>>52371885
GK or will any chapter do?

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What's your favorite art/art style in 40k content?

I gotta say I've always been partial to pic related. Sums up the imperium's creepiness and zealotry, has enjoyable grimdark sketchiness to it.

>>52371950
AdMech probably won't get any new plastic apart from maybe some new Character(s) and possibly a Skitarii HQ option for the forseeable future and will most definitely be combined into one faction.

They're a pretty safe bet to stay relevant and get their new codex early, since a lot of people love playing them and love their design.

Imperial Armor 14 is also due to release around time 8e will release (most likely), which will have some 30k Transports, fuckyuge robots and the FW Elite Skitarii, which is all very nice.

NIDS WILL NOM THE GALAXY!!

>>52371868
Imperial agents astropaths are your best bet for easy and cheap psychic Support. 25 points for ml1 psyker that can do divination and telepathy. Easy prescience and easy psychic shriek. Going to ml2 is good too but they are 1 wound so they can perils themselves to death easier.

>>52371979
White scar or iron hands, put them on for maximum survivality

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WAAAAGH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whxcq4I0kAo

this still isn't all of it

>>52372024
I envy your dedication to your army

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>>52372024
Quit buyin shit until you paint your other shit, ya git.

>>52372024
How many points do you wager are in there? 10-15k? Impressive anon, only thing more impressive would be everything fully painted and based.

>>52371868
The guard psycher formation is pretty good.

>>52372014
>>52371932
>>52371890
>>52371837
>>52371777


Literally been spamming this shit all day. You were spamming it when I woke up and now your spamming it as I lay in bed. When will you take the hint that we don't give a fuck about your christ-chan /pol/ bullshit. We don't want your shitty dead thread that couldn't even get a measly 150 posts despite being up for nearly 15 hours?

>>52372092
why reply to faggotry?

>>52372110
I can't help myself

>>52372092
Ignore and report, also report the bait thread, he won't learn, now we depend on the MODS to stop him.

>>52372065
Orkbro here, I guesstimate about what you do

All in all I probably have 20-30k or somewhere in there, in the next day or two as I organize it all its put it in battlescribe and share the list with you all

>>52372122
a-anon... you... are... the cancer

>>52372126
Since orkz are in bad shape you should adopt other people armies to expand your WAAAGH! to an apocalyptic size

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Hey anons, I think I've finally gotten my list to how I want it. How would you rate it?

1500 Blood Axes Blitzkrieg V3

•HQ
-Warboss, 60
+'Eavy Armour, 4
+Power Klaw, 25
+Da Finkin' Kap, 10
+Attack Squig, 15
+Kombi-Rokkit, 5
+Boss Pole, 5
+Ammo Runt, 3
Total, 127

-Painboy, 50
+Grot Orderly, 5
Total, 55

•Elites
-Nobz, 54
+7 Nobz, 126
+'Eavy Armour, 40
+4 Kombi-Rokkit, 20
+3 Power Klaw, 75
+7 Big Choppa, 35
+Waaagh! Banner, 20
+Ammo Runt, 3
Total, 373

•Dedicated Transport
-Battlewagon, 110
+Boarding Plank, 15
+Reinforced Ram, 5
+4 Big Shootas, 20
+Kannon, 10
Total, 160

•Troops
-2xBoyz, 60 (180)
+2 Boyz, 12
+Boss Nob, 10
+Power Klaw, 25
+Boss Pole, 5
Total, 112 (224)

•Dedicated Transport
-2xTrukk, 30 (90)
+Reinforced Ram, 5
+Rokkit Launcha, free
Total, 35 (70)

•Fast Attack
-2xBlitza-Bommer, 270

-Stormboyz, 45
+Boss Nob, 10
+Boss Pole, 5
+Power Klaw, 25
+15 Stormboyz, 135
Total, 220

Total, 1499

what should i equip my gk interceptor squad with?

>>52372024
that is one metric fuckton of orkz anon

>>52372164
Psy cannons

>>52372180
>non-relentless unit
>Psycannons
NIGGER WHAT ARE YOU DOING?

Is it advisable to make a purely shooty SM army? I play as IF, and I love me some heavy bolters

>>52372156
I would drop the storm boyz for loot tankz if you really want a blitzkrieg army

>>52372193
The handheld psilencers aren't good for shit, you only use those on the baby carrier

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What are you anons working on(read: Procrastinating) tonight? Play any games recently? Plan to?

I'm working on my friend's Guilliman and I was fucking terrified at doing the sword because I suck at blending and have never painted fire. So, I followed Duncans guide and added some white to the tips. How'd I do?

>>52372156
USE THE FUCKING LIST BUILDER YOU DOUBLE HERETIC

>>52372211
What are Incinerators for 400, Trebek?

>>52372222
WITNESSED

>>52372220
Working through some projects I've been putting off for my Chaos army. Working on a termie sorcerer right now.

Taking a break from my group's usual weekly game day helped a lot. Hopefully it doesn't fall apart too much though. The guy who was big on organizing it and coming up with scenarios is moving to the west coast soon.

>>52372199
I would were it not for the Don't Press Dat rule. 1/6 chance to not be able to use the Killkannon is a very meh rule. They are cheap, I'll admit, but I just hate the chance of being unable to use their guns.

>>52372211
Psilencers are never good on anything.

Dreadknight wants to use Psycannon/Incenerator everytime he can.

>>52372193
I won't lie to you anon, I completely forgot they existed.

You have ten seconds

To create 3 new xeno armies/factions

Can tau sniper drones with fire sight marksmen move and shoot their snipers at full BS? A moving 48inch BS 5 sniper seems kinda too good to me.

>>52372222
Nice digits, mate, but there's nothing wrong in not using the list builder?

Female Necrons.

>>52372164

Incinerators, my nigga. Incinerators also go on Purifiers if you're inclined to use those, for a Vietnam-style barbecue. Psycannons are for Termis. Psilencers are trash.

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All things Warhammer General Discord, a place for when the thread is dead or you want slightly faster paced chat!

https://discord.gg/Zeh7nhC

>>52372220

Looks good to me, anon. At first I didn't like the diagonal bands but while I was typing this comment they grew on me. You could maybe hit the blade part with a wash if you like, the flames part looks good as is in my opinion though.

>>52372339
Fuck off

Power maul Bullgryn death star with 2 priests a xenos inquisitor with rad nades and a biomancy primaris psyker. 570 points of let's do this.

>>52372306
They are jetpack, so Relentless.

>>52372340
Thanks, I was a bit low on cash when I went to get some paints, so I decided against buying a wash/shade and only got the Ultramarine colors. I might just do a "wash"(thinned down Troll slayer) to even it out again.

>>52372222

>Takes fucking forever to select options
>Nobody can even read your wargear selections
>Looks retarded since it just stacks the same model
>Visually busy as fuck, nobody will actually pay attention to wargear

The list builder is a novelty for children with ADD who can't stand to read 20 lines of text without photographs attached. Even fucking Battlescribe is better than it.

>>52372328
okers! incinerators and falchions for interceptors and just incinerators and swords for purifiers?

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What units do you want to take or field, but don't because their points cost is too high, models are too expensive in real $money, or rules are too terrible?

>>52372024
inspiring stuff.

one day my waaaagh! would make this one look tiny!

Orks are the best

>>52372156
its a neat army but i cant help but think it would get destroyed by most lists.

still neat if you play against nice armies.

>>52372355
Fucking kill me now. I hate tau

>>52372377
See>>52372353
I've taken Bullgryn a few times with the grenade gauntlets. They never do anything. Either people run away from them or they get shot to death slowly. Their only use is an expensive bullet sponge. I just want to fully kit them out and get them into assault once in a while. That's all.

Straken is another one. He never does much except shoot out the top hatch or sometimes he hops out and fires once before getting shot up. I just want to tear through some small squads here and there and get a big bloob charge with furious charge.

>>52372306
1. yes.
2. snipers arent that good.
3. its a heavy support choice.

its fine.

>>52372420
>It's a Heavy Support choice

As if there's anything that good in the Heavy Support slot anyway.

>>52372431
missile sides are fucking retarded.

hammerhead+long strike is good.

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>>52371749
>implying

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>>52372417
>I just want to tear through some small squads here and there

Just get an eversor.

>>52372413
Honestly, Kroot make better snipers.

>>52372450
I might consider that. I'm just a huge fan of Straken and his rules. He should be an ic.

>>52372375

Should be fine. I run 1 unit of Interceptors with Halberds and the other with Falchions, there are mixed opinions on that but it's worked for me.

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>>52372281
>>12 shots with S4 but instant death seems kinna good though
Are we sure that baby carriers who want to take on greater daemons and other multi wound assholes can't make a psilencer worthwhile?

Dangit this is making me want to repaint all my old metal GKs now that I'm not hot garbage.

>>52372478
Thought the only reason why kroot make better snipers is because tau have some sort of eye problem. Why they need markerlights to shoot at veteran level.

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>>52372506
I've recently tested my strike squads as interceptors and loved the mobility. What is best in a unit? Ten guys with two incinerators combat squadded together and... I don't know what's meta anymore for gk weaponry.

Im glad I clipped and saved all these beep boop backpacks.

>>52372294
As in brand new, or new books for ones existing in lore?

Because for ones existing in lore, just give Kroot, Demiurg, and Hrud their own books.

For entirely brand new:
>Race made up entirely of light/energy, feed off of the ambient energy of suns to sustain themselves. Fluffwise, could be formed around microscopic fragments of C'tan shards, and while lacking the same scope of powers, typically have weird ways to influence realspace and a strange drive to conquer and subjugate other races

That's all I've got. Other ideas would be alien mercenaries, but we've already got a lot of those, and some aliens that thrive on radiation, but same deal. Better to expand on existing stuff overall.

>>52372411
>implying that isn't all Ork lists

>>52372614
I really wanna see aliens that worship chaos. Nowadays they worship their own crazy gods or ideals.

>>52372649
True, that'd be a good addition I hadn't considered. I'm worried it would just end up being 'Beastmen in space' or feel too much like Chaos Daemons though

>>52372530
S4 psilencer, it can't hurt a Wraithknight which is literally the only thing that will punk you in melee outside Imperial Knights where you should be punked because it is literally twice the cost.

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Which of the Horus Heresy novels are your favourite?

>>52372668
Could just be subtle worship, not enough to turn them all into rampaging mutants. Something like the aliens Fulgrim fought.

>>52372575
Speaking of Kroot vs drones, Kroot have the added advantages of cheap and Infiltrate.

>>52372575
If I remember my fluff correctly, its because Tau have really shitty reaction times, hence the needs to have the tech get it to reasonable levels. Thats also why they suck at melee, but can shoot good from long range. Because a plasma bolt is damn hard to dodge, but a sniper round has to be actually aimed

I could be wrong though

>>52372691
what is exactly going on in that gif?

>>52372753
DoW:Dark crusade SM vs Imperial guard victory bay, but with ultramarines for some reason?

>>52372753
Spess muhrines covering what I assume is an orbital battery

>>52372787
Its definitely a titans arm cannon, you can see the shoulder attachment at the back. Beyond that i have no idea

How viable is it to spam rokkits with orks? My 1000p theoretical list has about 20 rokkits in it to combat BS2 but that's probably only 6 or 7 hits per turn. I want my Goff's to be rokkit boyz.

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>>52372691
I liked betrayer, know no fear, descent of angels and horus rising.

>>52372804
you'll be surprised by them

rokkits > big shootas, because with BS2 you want to actually do some damage when you finally hit

>>52372804
Rokkits are pretty okay. What's your list?

>>52372804
Rokkits are surprisingly solid. Despite the low accuracy, short range Krak missiles are still capable of putting out a lot of hurt. That 1 in 3 chance to kill a marine or glance a tank is much better than the chance for an extra hit from a big shoota.

Is there a better alternative to Purity Seal?

I enjoy the Satin finish but it's sucking out some of my edge highlighting. I'll do a 9-10/10 on a model only for Purity Seal to pull it down a bit.

>>52372730

>Shitty reaction time
>Same initiative as an Ork

>>52371925
Hello my fellow Templar.

Basically what you said. Improve the assault phase, give Grimaldus and Helbrecht some rules tweaks, give the EC vows again, etc.

>>52372156

I mean, are you going for effectiveness or theme? Because effectiveness-wise, you're going to lose. A lot. Nobz are hot garbage, a Warboss should have either Mega-Armour or a Bike, Big Shootas have no place on a Battlewagon (or anywhere for that matter), Blitz-Bombers are crap, Boyz are crap and Stormboyz just get cut to shreds by anything and everything.

Theme-wise though it looks quite nice. Expect an uphill battle against other themeatic lists.

>>52372804

Well, viable as anything is with Orks. Trukks get them for free so should always take them. Buggies are fantastic platforms for Rokkits, Deffkoptas are decent too, though their vulnerability to morale makes them inferior to Buggies. Battlewagons should typically be taking 4 Rokkits. Tankbustas have gone down in effectiveness ever since the FAQ but they'll still throw out a fair few rokkits for their points, and Tank Hunters is very useful on them.

Kannons aren't bad either; 18 points for a BS3 rokkit on a T7 platform is pretty decent.

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>>52372024

wow man that would be very impressive if even 25% of it was painted you piece of shit

How do I build a competitive SW army? My local meta is a lot of space marines and even a lions blade, so firehowlers doesn't really work very well I'm finding out.

>>52372982
spam TWC and Wulfen

>>52372982

Stormshield Thunderwolves, Wulfen, a million fenrisian wolves.

>>52372988
How do I do this? Their decurion formation only gets you a single squad of TWC.

>>52372996
Are you fucking with me or is this an actual thing?

>>52372981
Well if we're going to shitpost, are you fucking blind? Half or slightly more than half IS

Takes fuggin time to paint this much, I'm prolly going to be sending the unpainted shit to a commission service or something soon enough desu

How is the typical Black Templar captain equipped?

How is the typical Blood Angel captain equipped?

>>52371925
The points cost of my entire army. Also drop pods

Guess the army.

>>52373008
Don't take the Decurion then?

And he's exaggerating when he says 1 million. Just take a lot.

>>52373008
These gentlemen >>52372988 >>52372996 have the right idea. TWC, Wulfen and massive packs of fenrisian wolves are way to go.

Also SW-barkstar is still one hellova deathstar.

>>52373017
Orks?

>>52371925
Only thing I want for Chaos marines is more gun/weapon options and ways to kit out units. That's pretty simple to fix though, since you just have to houserule for stuff like Sonic Weaponry on predator tanks and things like that.

>>52373017
Tyranids

>>52373017
Maybe daddy Mortarion will fix your problems.

I'm going to lose my shit if he is grinning too like rest of the merry band of Death Guard.

Does anyone have the codex for Adeptus custodes and Sisters of silence?
I have it in german by mistake

>>52372844

++ Orks: Codex (2014) (Combined Arms Detachment) (997pts) ++

+ HQ (55pts) +

Big Mek (55pts) [Choppa, Gift: Da Fixer Upperz, Rokkit Launcha]

+ Elites (158pts) +

Tankbustas (158pts) [10x Tankbusta]
Boss Nob [Bosspole]

+ Troops (344pts) +

Boyz (209pts) ['Eavy Armour for Mob, Boy w/ Rokkit Launcha]
Boss Nob [Bosspole, Power Klaw, Shoota]
9x Boy [9x Shoota]
Trukk [Extra Armour, Reinforced Ram, Rokkit Launcha]

Boyz (100pts) [Boy w/ Rokkit Launcha]
Boss Nob [Bosspole, Kombi-weapon w/ Rokkit Launcha]
9x Boy [9x Shoota]

Gretchin (35pts) [10x Gretchin]
Runtherd [Grabba stik]

+ Heavy Support (440pts) +

Battlewagon (145pts) [Kannon, Reinforced Ram, 4x Rokkit Launcha]

Deff Dread (100pts) [Extra Armour, Grot Riggers, 2x Rokkit Launcha]

Killa Kans (195pts)
Killa Kan [Extra Armour, Grot Riggers, Rokkit Launcha] X3

>>52373008
There's also elitespamming with I think it's wolf claw strike force, and taking five-man wolfguard biker units piled with special weapons as kill squads on the side, then having a wulfen murderpack running everywhere. With that you can take your CAD-standard fast attack and heavy support. Long Fangs are also nice, considering you take a sgt and 1+ long fangs to put heavy weapons on. They come standard with split fire so you can just have a lascannon with two heavy bolters taking out any infantry that look at it wrong. Unless you're going against muhreens then why not get a plasma cannon or two.

If you want a lot of cheap bikes the full retard swiftclaws are only 20 points.

Your terminators are your least effective heavy assault squad.

>>52373109
Big mek rides in wagon with the bustaz

>>52373046
>>52373064

I'm just new to big games and shitty at writing lists m9.

>>52373110

Local meta is probably going to be lots of marines, an admech army or two, and maybe a tau list.

Want to start Skitarii, was wondering how to build the bulk of infantry. Any suggestions?

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>>52372220
Painting this fucking thing but I'm so bored of it I paint a tiny bit then stop each time. I want to move on but I can't leave this guy unfinished.

I'm painting my Ravenwing with Abbadon Black to start with (I've heard it's good in case you need to touch up later), but struggling to spot where I've painted compared to just the base.
Is there an easy way beyond look better, or...?

>>52373102
nurgle's icky though. I'll wait for the headless judge and prophet of the eighth.

>>52373008
Spam the getting started formation and mount your wolf Lord in a thunderbolt for run and charge shenanigans along wulfen

anyone know about the dan abnett titanicus that was supposed to release this weekend I thought? WHAT HAPPENED?!

>>52372753

Space marines fire small guns next to a huge fucking gun.

>>52372220
Trying to finish my Tzeentch daemons, Rubrics/Thousand Sons, and Magnus. Then maybe the few Necrons and any other things I've been putting off for a while. Finished one of my 3 screamers today, and almost done with my second. Just need the teeth, horns, and eyes left.
Hoping to do some small scale games sooner or later against my NL buddy.

>>52373095
This would be nice too actually. Give csm an equivalent to grav or nerf grav. Maybe make reaper autocannons something to actually fear.

>>52373199
Already sold out no titanicus for you

>>52373246
Neither will happen at most you'll get Kai guns as chaos exclusive.

>>52373246
It'd be nice if Reaper Autocannons were actually just two autocannons fired as one for the price of two autocannons. Right now they're 25 points for a twin-linked version and it's obnoxious.

I don't care as much about having a grav-equivalent, since I play EC and get a pretty unique gun in the form of Noise weaponry. I just want to be able to take those Noise weapons on more platforms.

>>52373151
Oh man, that's some good work tho

>>52373109

Riggers are pretty worthless on Kans because they tend to fall apart before they have a chance to regen. Rokkits are also not great on Kans when Grotzookas are available. They're simply much better. Extra armour also tends to be not that useful; it's only protecting against 1/7 damage results. I'd switch Da Fixer Upperz for a Thinkin' Kap personally, but they're not a bad choice.

>>52373279
I have never understood why twin linked weapons don't just fire twice the number of shots, it makes no sense to just be a reroll.

>>52372915
Anon I love how honest you are with my list.

>Nobz are garbage
Oh yeah, definitely. But I like the thought of having the Boss with his own elite unit.

>mega armor or bike
I don't like the fact that Ghazkul is the only Megaboss model there is. I mean, yeah, there is converting stuff, but I don't think I'd do too well.

>Big Shootas have no place on a Battlewagon
Yeah, probably, I'd put Rokkit Launchas, but it doesn't come with any and I love the thought of the Boss' personal ride being tricked out. I would've given it a Killkannon were it not for the fact Ordnance forces snapshots. Also the fact that it looks really cool with all the gunners on it.

>Blitza-Bommers
I just really like Ork flyers and was debating between them or Dakkajets. I chose Blitza-Bommers because their bombs are pretty nice and it's a small chance to kill themselves, but it's a chance I'm willing to take for their Boom Bombs, which are really nice.

>Boyz are crap
Probably. I dunno though. They seem okay.

>Stormboyz are crap
I dunno about this. They're pretty mobile, and in a mob of 20 like I have them, they're bound to harm something, and if I use their Rokkit Packs on the charge, then they also get HoW.

>Theme-wise it looks quite nice
Thanks, anon! I'm really happy you rated my list and pointed out stuff about it.

>>52372691
Only up to Battle for the Abyss currently (it's awful so taking me a while), but I really liked Descent of Angels and Legion.
Galaxy in Flames is good, but requires Horus Rising and... Whatever the second one is, which are both painfully slow.

>>52373327
It's to add weapon variety. I believe the in-game explaination for twin-linked is that the gun has a wide scatter so it hits more often with less bullets.

>>52373327
I don't mind twin-linked existing, but it's really annoying for Reaper autocannons when two normal autocannons on a Havoc squad will cost fewer points while still being better. If they were 15 or 20 I could maybe see it, but 25 just doesn't feel right to take. I'd almost always rather have a normal Autocannon and save the 15 points.

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Alright, whipped up a list. R8 and H8 pls.

Exodites when

>>52373151
Damn thats good looking. Have tou sculpted it by yourself or is it premade model?

Also, unfinished? Where the hell is that painting unfinished?

>>52373370
Personally, I'd like to see them get rending and allow them to be taken as a generic heavy weapon codex-wide.

This seems to be what forgeworld tries (read: overcosts) to do with their autocannons.

>>52373544
Ynnari Cult codex when?
Corsair codex when?
Space Lizardmen codex when?

>>52373178
But Charlie Sheen already gibbed him.

>>52373568
Personally, I'd like it if they played up the fact that Chaos Marines are under-supplied in a different way. If they can't get the best marine equipment, then why not snag things from the Imperial Guard? I'm sure a marine could strap a pair of Heavy stubbers together and lug that around without trouble, or use a Multilaser as a heavy weapon.

>>52373608
Squats codex when?
Ultramarines codex when?
C'tan codex when?

>>52373555

Not him but he's posted it before so basically I know it's a GUO model with greenstuff head (maybe part of it was from some other model, I forget). He's going to do some more highlights, I imagine, since his plaguebearers were a bit more polished than that. I agree it looks great though.

>>52373628
>Squats
They exist in Age of Sigmar
>C'tan codex
Cool idea, Necrons need their own edgy rival army (Vampire Cunts in Space vs Tomb Kangz in Space)
>Ultramarines codex
Sure, if Imperial Fists become the posterboys for the Space Marine codex

>>52373657
>They exist in Age of Sigmar
They don't have bikes, trains and tanks.

>>52373151
That's not what you said last time few threads ago.

Sisters of Silence, CSM, or Deldar.

I can't decide which I should focus on right now. The SoS are an addition to my SoB to fight psykers, the CSM are a HH project with 40k elements, and the Deldar are something I picked up because I wanted to get them in 5th but didn't have the money.

I would need to buy SoS squads a a rhinos, rhinos for my CSM, and my Deldar are actually in a decent place as far as transports and squads (mostly raiders).

I really really need to focus on something I'm ever going to make any progress.

>>52373770
Choose Sisters of Sex

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>>52373555
It's mostly green stuff and AoS Maggoth lord.

>>52373721
I don't remember what I've said previously but I'm bored of it. Loved painting the plaguebearers and I've got 10 old metal ones that I want to work on, but want this finished before I start them or the herald I've got based and primed.

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>>52373008
>Are you fucking with me or is this an actual thing?

If your opponent can move a model without having it come into contact with a wolf, you need to add more wolves.

>>52371749
looks like she has 3 boobs

>>52373974
lol!

>>52373974
Trust not the Xenos

>>52373974
fuck you

can't unsee

>>52373997
lol you're still masturbating admit it dirty boy

>>52371925
Better closer combat delivery options for chaos

Could the Eldar pantheon just be a bunch of Old Ones in disguise?

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>>52374030
No, since Ynnead is around.

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>>52372060
That is such a deep pit with orks, I dont envy that anon.

>>52374037
So, Ynnead can't be a long dormant Old One?

>>52373919
If it's really getting that bad, just do some of the more glaring, essential details and then cover the rest with nurgle's rot in ways that make sense or something like that. Green putrid fluid coincidentally flowing over those details you didn't want to do. Too bad the fluid covers them and makes it so they don't matter, but potentially still make it look nice.

>>52374030
If they were at the start, they probably aren't now. Remember, belief shapes the warp. At some point the Eldar's beliefs about their gods would have subsumed any disguised old ones.

>>52372804
Its very viable, as far as orks go 20 is a bit low though imo.

Asking for the sake of a friend who wants a nice, fun and casual list to go against my rubricae:
Are there any ways to make decent raptor or fluff oriented lists for Night Lords at lower points? Maybe involving warp talons or furies, since he seems to like those too?

>>52372281
>>52372530
Psilencers are good but super situational.

Use them to cut down hordes of multi-wound/FnP stuff quickly.
Thunder cav
Iron hands command squad
Plague zombies
Skitarii assassins/infiltrators
Admech servitors

Stuff like that.

>>52373946
What are Angron and Perturabo doing there?

>>52373015
In what sense?
Relic blade

Thunder hammer and lightning claw

>>52373015
Bolt Pistol and Chainsword.

>>52372691
THAT IS NOT HOW A MULTI-MELTA WORKS FUCK YOU

>>52374102

Night lords can run a dirt cheap Decurion with a Raptor Talon and chaos spawn.

Murder Talon -500-

>Raptor Talon
Chaos Lord 80
Jump Pack
Power Weapon or Claw

Raptors x5 115
Melta x2

Raptors x5 115
Melta x2

Warp Talons x5 160

>Spawn Tax
Chaos Spawn 30

It's pretty straight forward and even has warp talons.

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>>52372691
A Thousand Sons and Betrayer

>>52374225
Anything furies are good for to satisfy that need for him?

>>52374182
Its Phobos pattern L4V4 Multimelta which fires streams of superheated plasmapromethium.

I'm just making shit up. There are 2-3 ways meltas work so might as well fire some lava.

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>>52374246
Wat

>>52374286
Those bat daemon things. Can they be useful in any way?

>>52374295

Those are furies, yes. He has old school taste it seems.

They are no longer an option for CSM, so they'd need to be allied from daemons. The only purpose they serve is being a tax unit for big daemon formations.

>>52374320
Ah, alright. Thanks.

How to make Chaos interesting:

>Lesser Daemons wanting to take over Slaanesh slot

>>52373105
They have one?

>>52374334
The Horned Rat enters the galaxy-thing.

How much would you guys estimate an average 2k army to cost?

The one I'm planning is currently going for about $830, though that's in Sweden and with a few FW models.

>>52374352
You dont even need the Horned Rat

>GW decides to rape the Night Lords for good
>they introduce the Horned Bat
>Night Lords now look like mutated Bat monsters wearing space marine armor

there you go

>>52374373
I was using the Horned Rat as a pretense for bringing Skaven into 40k.

>>52374371
400- 500
my 2k chaos marines would be $650 but thats in Australian dollars and buying extra kits for converions.

>>52372024
Paint your models retard. Jesus christ.

Did you really go out and buy one of the worst tabletop armies just to play and not paint?

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Guys.
Are Orks honorable?

>>52374443
No.

>>52374407
Oh man, maybe I shouldn't spend $450 on vehicles alone..

>>52374443
WOT'Z DAT?

>>52374443
No, but their intentions are usually clear.

>>52374466
to a certain extent it depends on the army. Some armies just cost more.
FW is expensive.

What are are you building?

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>>52374503
SM + IG, quite vehicle-heavy. Last 500 pts are still a WIP but planning to buy 1500 at the least

Oh, if I were to buy it all in Britain it'd be £609..

>>52374443
Kinda. They won't torture you because it's not interesting, and they won't lie to you because they can't be bothered.

That might all be a lie, but if you want your orks to be honourable then go for it anon.

>>52374571
>They won't torture you because it's not interesting
Yes they will, they beat their slaves for fun all the time.

>>52374601
They also burn people alive because they want to see "Da Burny Dance" and bet on how long they'll live for.

Why are Eldar all white?

>>52374634
Because this is a European game made by European developers with a European folkore approach to fluff.

Rogue Trader/2nd edition Orks, whilst primarily all about fighting, had a fairly detailed look into their culture in their downtime. They seemed pretty okay so long as you understood their psychology and got out of the way when a WAAAGH! started up. You could even trade with Orks, or hire them as mercenaries.

Now that the fluff is less interested in having a goofy as hell faction, they're sidelined, mostly only used as big green rage machine brutes, and you get fluff that just kinda does "If you aren't able to put up a fight they'll just kill you or something lol"

>>52374634
Why all orks are green?

>>52374634
They aren't white, they're Eldar colour.

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>>52374634

Why does it matter?

>>52374634

Well they're aliens, why would they have the same ethnicities as us?

Better question: Why aren't there purple Eldar?

>>52374601
well, they beat grots too. Usually to make them work faster and/or for fun of that.
I think of orkz like group of mean bullies who are mean for everybody that's smaller

>>52374670
too sneaky for filthy elves

>>52374670
>Well they're aliens, why would they have the same ethnicities as us?

Because other races have different color types?

The Tau from different septs have different shades to them. It ranges from dark grey to bright blue.

Having the Tau be a single skin color is as insulting as it is stupid.

>>52374687
Having the Eldar*

>>52374687

Yes, I specifically asked why would they have the -same- ethnicities as us.

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>>52374687

Eldar ethnicities range from looking like a Caucasian to looking like a creepy albino.

>>52374329
Sometimes in daemons they can annoy something, filling a similar role to nurglings but moving faster and being generally worse at distracting things but less vulnerable to ID, templates and S6+

>>52374696
We know that Eldar have different tribes, families, bloodlines. Heck, I just remembered the Exodite Eldar are said to be tanner than their Craftworld brethren. So why isn't this represented instead if having it as a throw away line in some novel? Where are the darker skinned Eldar heroes and characters?

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>>52374710

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how quickly i get tabled? vs SM and Crons that is.

>>52374710
They're space elves; they've sticks up their asses. Think they'd go out in the sun and expose their 'beautiful' skin?

>>52374706
You can make them slaanesh furies for S4 I4 rending attacks on a very cheap, fast moving squad with 5++ and psudo fearless.

>>52374745

You can also run Slaanesh furies fleet+3 inches after jumping, which is pretty good for getting up in someone's face turn one and telling them "Hey waste time shooting 5 wounds of cheap rending chaff or have them charge something vulnerable."

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WHICH ALLIANCE IS THE BEST???

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>>52372220
Just finished Cawl. Happy with how is wires turned out.

Love that sword bta

>>52374735
Against SM shouldnt you bring bloodletters? For AP3? As for Crons personally i prefer plaguebearers against them because of cover saves.

>>52372586
It's very situational, anon.
Incinerators are great with Interceptors, always try and bring max incinerators.
I'm not a fan of hammers on PAGK, but falchions and halberds really come into their own (even on 1A models)

>>52374735
At 500pts it really depends on what they bring, if it's a CAD/Allied there really isn't that much a two-list army could bring to the table that could easily fuck you over unless they go extreme cheap cheese for some reason.

Nice bait, by the way.

>>52374735
>>52374890
Oh! Another advantage of plaguebearers is they get defensive grenades (all nurgle daemons do actually) so you can deep strike them, then chuck a grenade in the shooting phase to blind the enemy.

>>52374875
He looks cool. Both your paintjob and generally hes the most interesting of the "triumvirate" models GW released.

>>52373013
there are plenty of lazy methods to batch paint orks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNFrDcT9JIU

>>52371838
Last time I tried to report shitpost/spam, I got banned temporarily.

>>52374875
>'No Fabricator-General, I think the amount of time I've spent on the Necrontyr project is perfectly logical.'
>'It's not a phase!'

Shitposting aside, it looks pretty good, don't really see Cawl outside his standard colour scheme much.

>>52374875
You could blend the yellow into the green better in some places, but looks great, Anon.

>>52374911
>bait
um? why? I am just starting with daemons, so i am well aware that list will be shit-poor, but that's why i am asking you guys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdbyZJlbPKk
If i wanted to make my plaguebearers more of a yellowy green how would i modify this method?
>>52374980
Maybe he meant the 1 point over?

How do we make 40k more diverse?

>>52375001
aw, i modified it, now i am at 498pts, cause i took one squad of bloodletters instead of daemonettes

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At least he's honest about it. Still a fag though.

>>52375001
Mix Athonian Camoshade with Casandora Yellow.

1:2 ratio.

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Does anyone have the new Sisters of Silence mini-dex?

Can't find it anywere and curious as heck to hear the reasoning they are showing back up all of a sudden.

>>52375035
>lost her standard issue panties
that's a whipping

>>52375008
there are now chaos orks, which are feminine

>>52375008
make more astra militarum variants from more nationalities. maybe have some based on imperial japan or some based on african warlords.

>>52374809
Imperium are really the only ones cooperating on a meaningful level.

>>52375035

Gulliman, in his only actual move I wholeheartedly agree with, kicked those lazy squatter golden corncob and mute baldy bums out of the imperal palace and told them to do their damn jobs.

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>>52371983

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>>52371983
I've always loved this picture and it has always stimulated my imagination.

>>52374809
Imperium of Men
Aeldari
Orks
Tau
Necrons
Tyranids
Chaos

Here are better alliances

>>52375182

I could see a Tau/Necron alliance.

Which type of terminator armor would you most like to wear whilst having sex?

>>52375199
From the Tau's perspective, maybe, but without some weird shenanigans the Necrons wouldn't really gain anything from an alliance with the Tau. There's nothing the blueberries can offer yet.

>>52375213

They neighbour both Sautekh and Ultramar. I can see Imhotekh reluctantly forming a "Gulliman no bully pls" alliance.

>>52375208
Tartaros, all day, everyday

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Look at my trash plan, and judge me.

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Should I?

>>52375248
>that's so "15 models at 1500 points"
Even worse, it's 1850 points.

>>52375278
You can do better than that, i plan on using Conjuration psychic powers.

>>52374443
Honour can be found in the orkish kind...

They often embody the spirit of bushido!

>he finally got banned
Well this is pleasent news to wake up to.

What colour scheme would you give marines called the Duct Urns?

>>52375233
>Wanting a sweeping advance rather than taking it slow and purposeful

>>52375347
Some kind of dusty brown and grey

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>>52375362
>Wanting to go slow

>>52375347

...Terracotta with black trim?

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>>52375213
The Sautekh have activated the Ymga Monolith. Unless the Khornate daemons stop them, then the numberless Sautekh fleets will sail forth to bring ruin to the whole of the galatic east.

>>52375316
Who was banned?

>>52375362
>>52375386
>>52375233
Not using Gorgon Terminator armour for angry blinding sex

>>52375423
The moron spamming his shitty thread and making new ones on page 4 for the last few days, since all his posts are gone.

>>52375429
Calm down man or you might lose your head

>>52375410
>winged daemons

What the hell are those? Chaos daemons don't have winged daemons that can fight in space. Nothing in their line up comes close to that description.

>>52375471

>What is a fury

Why do people hate black people in here?

>>52375490
Not something you send to fight a supersonic warplane in space.

>>52375512
>super sonic
The warp doesn't give a shit about your 'laws' of reality.

>>52375501
because its 4chan

Been a fan of the 40k universe for a long time, but only now felt a real urge to get into the tabletop game. So would the best way to get started be the starter bundle on GW's website? It comes with a DA squad and a CSM squad alongside paint, spray, brushes, clippers and glue. I would prefer to have enough to play my friends who don't have figures but like 40K

>>52375535
The start collecting bundles for the specific army you want are probably the best bet for general play. There is a boxed set called "Dark Vengeance" that contains a full chaos space marine army and a full dark angels army, so that way you could have your friends use one army and you use the other.

I fully reccomend using another store than GW itself, you will save lots of money.

>>52375410
>Necrons are finally bringing out their sector-ending good shit from the War in Heaven

My body is ready.

>>52375553
Thats the set that comes with the starter bundle, along with the other things I mentioned

>>52375501
because most of 4chan's posters as a whole are edgy white kids aged around 13-21. /tg/ less so than /pol/ or /b/ but there is still some

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>>52371698
>thread made neraly 8h ago
Oh my, this is a long-living one. What is going on with 40k generals these days?

>>52375512

Everything is supersonic in space.

>>52375553
>full chaos space marine army and a full dark angels army
for maximum fun you can convert the dark angels to chaos space marines and then you just have a really big chaos army.

>>52375462

I think you mean he might get A HEAD of himself!

>>52375601
We have pol shitposting threads, and mods reacted day later.

>>52375501

Better question; why fo all the black Waehammer fans play Craftworld Eldar? This has been a universal constant no matter where I go or play at.

>>52375634
someone already gave you an answer

black people love street fighter and weeb shit

>>52375629
It's not just /pol/, 8ch's /tg/ raids constantly because theirs is dead as fuck.

>>52375535
Buy a Dark Vengeance box if you like Marines or buy a Start Collecting box and Armoured Assault box for other army you like. Don't buy on GW store site and don't buy their clippers and shit - you can find cheap tools in every LGS

>>52375634
>My personal observation is a valid observation for a worldwide trend

>>52375666
Calm down Khorne, it's just a bait question

>>52375679
>Khorne
Its Slaanesh.

>>52375615
I wont lie, Ive considered doing just that.
>>52375634
Well because they know if they painted their dudes black it would seem like it was a race thing so they want to play an army with as little revealed skin as possible. Space Marines have to take off their helmets all the time to show off their honour and Necrons are completely black, even if its a metallic black.

>>52375019
>mold lines
>boring identical poses
>fully assembled grey, ready to rush out and shit up a table
He's a double faggot

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Custodes and SoS codex anyone?

>>52375711
This. Only Slaanesh shitposts on taiwanese image boards after losing his job to a fucking rat.

>>52374809

>necrons

>working with ork and tau

>>52375711
>Confused the god's numbers
Oh fuck, what have I done. It's time to sleep

>>52375745
Or to its twin and blonde man in blue suit.

>>52375735
Wonder if talons of the emperor will have its own formation in it for silence+custodes.

>>52375774
We have literally all the rules from the Talons codexes already, we're just missing the actual epub files.

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I would see Necrons in reasonable xenos or in last group. No because they would work with Orks or Nids but "using" them as a force of destruction to make their plans happen

>>52375888
>Dark Eldar
>Reasonable

>>52375897
Sorry for mental shortcut - I see them as a part of Ynnead forces allied with Humans to fight for their own goals but also ready to fight against chaos and last group together

>>52375888
The scary thing about Necrons these days is they actually have a practical excuse to be as arrogant and condescending as the Eldar sometimes get. Moral grounds aside, they're mid-process of waking up their more powerful engines and are constantly growing stronger as a faction, despite already being a major power on the galactic scale. Chaos is probably the only thing that would worry them by this point, but everyone else, to their own thoughts at least, are pretty much inconsequential once all the primary Tomb Worlds and their hypertech gets woken up.

So it really depends on the Dynasty, they toe the line between 'reasonable' and 'too self-assured to give a shit about the lesser beings.'

>>52375897
They are now, thank the Ynnari

>>52373151

I have come from the future to tell you that your eye for colour is what will unite the galaxy, so stay the course!

>>52375897
Also that's why I gave it this filename. I don't see this as a copy-paste of AoS allegiance system. Situation is too complex to fit all factions into separate boxes IMO

>>52375933
The thing is, they're also massively fractured and factionalised. They don't really operate as a single faction, with a united goal and purpose, and most are too arrogant or insane to yield to another except by force. They're a bunch of crazy old men waving planet-destroying superweapons at one another and everyone around them.

>>52375933
Its all fun and games until marines start ramming them with strike cruisers or Calgar casts fist.

>>52375958
Even then, the destruction of Tomb Worlds is rare, and the Necrons can simply phase-out/rebuild once their ships or bodies are destroyed unless you go out of your way to bring expensive, rare Necron-killer weaponry.

Their phase-out/regen is the most bullshit tech they have, all things considered, you can destroy a Necron ship (probably costing you at least three of your own) and they'll just make another one.

>>52375897
They need pain of others to live anon, there is no empathy in you.

>>52375936
Just a really small part who was too much butthurt with vect.

same goes for the craftworld ones.

How should I go about making an Ork list full of Looters, possibly Flash Gits and burnas? I wanna use Ork Boyz as my troops as well. Going to paint them as flash gitz. Should every infantry unit be maxed out? If I try to footslog, will my whole army just run away by turn 2?
Should I just buff up my Imperial Guard army instead?

>>52375936
Majority of DE stayed with Vect and Haemonculi.

>>52375888
Where's necrons at?

>>52375997
And Lady Malys. Commoragh is going to have an upcoming civil war.

>>52376013
Can't you read?

>>52376022
Can you not be an asshole?

>>52376053
No, I literally cant fucking help it you dribbling retard.

>>52376053
Man, what the fuck. This whole post is about Crones and you can't read it?

>>52376015
>civil war
>during a daemonic invasion
I was about to say that sounds completely retarded but actually that's perfectly in character.

>>52376077
The two sides both believe the other one is causing/benefiting from the invasion apparently.

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Is pewter magnetic, or do I still have to drill to magnetize a pewter model? Would any drill do for it if I do have to?

>>52376110
Their lack of evidence for such a thing, of course, only being proof of the others nefarious intent?

>>52375933
>Only chaos threatens them
Wouldn't Orks and Tyranids also threaten them?

>>52375723
To be fair to him, he did paint them afterwards, and with skill. But still, fucking WAACfag.

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You anons up for a batrep? Played an 8000pt game yesterday of Imperial Guard vs Chaos and my lad valiantly held the line against the vile Traitor Legions. Even though my ally was an asshole I think you'll enjoy it. A Shadowsword also might have Thunderblitzed a Land Raider to death

>>52376135
No.
Orks and 'Nids are just vermin to 'crons in the lore, just like they are to players on the table top.

How long does it take a gw order to get to canada?

>>52376224
>8000 pt
It was a big game

What sort of 40k terrain should I make?

>>52376224

Did KAYOSSSS win?

>>52376224
What was your ally and what made them useless?

>>52376224
Nice. Maybe this will purge the taste of all those dickhead Guard players at my LGS until Guardbro gets back from Germany. Other than the Ork game yesterday it's been a tad shit for a few months. I could post the highlights of that afterwards, I suppose. You have the stage, GGA.

>>52376282
Cardboard ruins http://www.terragenesis.co.uk/infopages/page120.html

>>52376322
I have some strips of foamboard to use, though.

>>52376124

Pewter is unfortunately not magnetic.
I hope you have a good drill bit.

>>52376254
Three to four years on average.

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>>52376224
The Guard were mustered out to fight to the last man in defence of Cadia from Abaddon and the terrible forces at his command. It was the spoils of war maelstrom mission and every player brought 4000pts a piece. Chaos ended up getting first turn and were wrecking havoc in the pyschic phase because they drew the rising storm card where every pyschic power went off twice and destroyed a Chimera and a Taurox (and my ally is the That Guy of the store and is an asshole to everyone. The only reason I played a game with him was because he was the only one there.)

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Someone push me over the edge or convince not to do it

>>52371925
I wish a good armor save would actually make footslogging viable. I want fuck of huge waves of infantry, not this retarded "everybody is driving around in their cardboard toy car" bs

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>>52376461
We also brought about 13 Leman Russ and 8 Chimeras to the game in addition to the Shadowsword.

>>52372377
Fiends

>>52376439
I'm tempted to start a guard army but I'm deliberately holding off to see if theres any hint of new guard stuff in 8th edition now.

Rumours seem to suggest they're redoing all the codexes because 8th is changing so much, if that's true, might want to wait a month or two and see how it effects stuff.