Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

>>52376703
Ok /40kg/, I will reiterate your mission parameters:

Expand the Orks, Tau and Necrons and Tyranids into their own alliances ! You may add races, retcons may happen but must preserve the current demeanor of the faction.

Are you a bad enough dude to do that?

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>>52376703
Page 7 new thread, purty gud.

>>52376722
Orkanid boyz after I retcon Armageddon.

That one Tau chick becomes canon and closes the warp.

>>52376722
Obviously Tau should just expand to have all their subjugated races.

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What is your favourite game format? How many points is just perfect for you?

>>52376776
1500pts. Killteam is fun too.

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>>52376722
The Tyranid alliance obviously should have zoats. And also treat each hive fleet like a traitor legion with it's own bonuses and different decurion style detachment.

>>52376776
1,500 points, any Eternal War mission with the Vanguard Deployment mode removed from game is my bread and butter.

>>52376722

> Necrons
Tomb World- Stock book
C'Tan- Horror elements, extermination
Triarch- Royal elements, elites
Dragon Cult- AdMech splinter cult. Pariahs, voltaic weapons, necrodermic monsters, Abominable Intelligences

> Orks
Orks- Stock book
Ferals- Squiggoths, boars, Snakebites
Freebootaz- Ork Deathwatch, flashy bits
Diggaz- Human elements. Junk rats, Witness Me!, Borderlands/Mad Max style, massed vehicles

> Tyranids
Hive Fleet- Stock
Lost Fleets- Imperial Agents book. Ymgarl, Zoats, Devils, Krakens
Genestealer Cults

> Tau
Tau Empire- Stock book
Enclaves- Battlesuit spam, more aggressive
Kroot- Light infantry, Knarlocs, Battle of Kashyyyk style
Alien Auxiliaries- Imperial Agents book. Tarellian Dog Soldiers, Vespid & Queen, Nicassar, go full-on Covenant

>>52376628
>Orks
General Ork Codex
Klans now have their own fluff and codices/supplement (Snakebites and Evil Sunz get the major focus, read: Squiggoth spam army and robot army)
Deep and convulted storyline how Evil Sunz change their red faction color to orange (orange makes their machines more powerful) and the Speed Freekz get pissed off and fuck off from the klan
Gretchin codex
New race: Space Ogres/Rogue Ogryns codex

>Necrons
C'tan (Vampire Cunts in Space and revenge-seeking rivals with their oldcrons against the Newcrons)
Trazyn supplement
Tomb Spider and Necron Machinery Codex
Probably Dynasties getting their own supplements

>Tyranids
Main Tyranid Codex (Posterboys are a new Hivefleet that has a Hive Tyrant being able to communicate and give heavy bantz to Orks)
Genestealer Cult
Zoans get reintroduced into the main nid army and get their own codex
Lictor and their alternate versions codex
Popular Hivefleets get their own supplements

>Tau
Tau Empire
Farsight Conclave
Melee Tau Codex based around the third pupil
Kroot Codex
Alien Auxilaries (Vespids, Demiurgs etc. you can field them as an army or as allies)

>>52376847
How would triarchs differ from tomb worlds?

>>52376722
Orks need more Grot options.

>>52376874
>Orks need more Grot options
Grots need to be removed tho

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Thinking about running this with the Vostroyan Firstborn models. I wish we got regimental rules for the IG.
>>52376874
Yeah, they should make grot tanks as plastic models.

>>52376862

Gets you the Silent King, for one.
I thought we were splitting the books into hundreds of sub-factions like AoS.

Could spin a few units out of it.
Some kind of TEq. Maybe a monstrous statue.

>>52376862
Triarchs never went to sleep and had millions of years to do their own thing while preserving Necrontyr history and stuff. Expect cooler and rarer toys maybe.

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>>52376703
Rate it boys. I've had pretty good luck with it so far. The libarians use magic to swooce Bobby up the board, and then the Vanguards tie everyone down until he can charge.

>>52376916
Would not play against/10

>>52376910
>I thought we were splitting the books into hundreds of sub-factions like AoS.
The idea was to introduce side factions and give (mini) codices to stuff from the lore to bolster the alliances.

>>52376916
>1851

Do your friends know that they play with a saloon cheat?

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Can somebody share Dente book?

>>52376722
>Alliances aren't a joke anymore but a very real possibility

feels bad man

>>52376916
>1 point over
>literally has wargear choices worth 1 point
what a faggot, look at him and laugh

>>52376973
I like the basic idea.
We ran a map campaign with Imperial factions vs Eldar flavors and it was fun as fuck, would be cool to be able do that with an actually interesting Xenos alliance.

>>52376776
500 points for stuff like the 40k version of triumph and treachery, 1,000 for most standard missions. My small group will play stuff like Zone Mortalis or specific FW campaign missions if I organise it.

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Continued from last thread. On our turn I managed to get a lucky Misfortune off and Abaddon and his bodyguard and a Wyvern/ Guardsman were enough to get him down to one wound from some lucky lasgun salvos'. And one of my Russes wiped out some bikers with a battle cannon hit. And Chimeras plus Punisher Pask and some other fire managed to kill some Raptors. And my Rough Riders simul killed some more Raptors in the assault phase too.

>>52376703
>>52376722

NEW OFFICIAL GRAND ALLIANCES CONFIRMED

> Imperium of Man
Adeptus Astartes
Astra Militarum
Eccesiarchy
Inquisition

> Adeptus Mechanicus
Cult Mechanicus
Skitarii Titan Guard
Legio Cybernetica
Adeptus Titanica

> Aeldari
Craftworlders
Corsairs/Dark Eldar
Harlequins
Exodites

> Chaos
Chaos Space Marines
Chaos Daemons
Renegades & Heretics
Dark Adeptus

> Tau Empire
Tau Empire
Farsight Enclaves
Kroot
Alien Auxiliaries

> Orks
Ork WAAAGH!
Feral Orks
Freebootaz
Diggaz

> Necrons
Necron Dynasties
Triarch
C'Tan Legions
Cult of the Dragon

> Tyranids
Hive Fleet Behemoth
Hive Fleet Kraken
Hive Fleet Leviathan
Genestealer Cults

>>52377021
Nice try, shitposter

>>52377021
>seperating Admech from IoM
WHY

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>>52377018
Chaos lord after his unit of Raptors was obliterated in combat.

>>52376847
The Tau book is pointless. Everyone would take the Enclaves.

>>52377043
Do you have any better pics of the Chaos Lord? The conversion from the new BA chaplain seems like a cool idea.

>>52377045
Well, I like "pure" Tau lore-wise more

>>52376907
Replace those two sentinels by a pair of Wyverns and you have a pretty decent list.

>>52377021
>Different hive fleets
>Not a brand new type of nid based on them absorbing some weird xenos
That said if Cult of The Dragon were real i would totally play it.

>>52377095
I'll remember that when my opponent rapes me, but I'm gonna try for the Sentinels because I really love the models.

>>52377021
>Renegades & Heretics
>Dark Adeptus

As much as I want this, stop. Will never ever happen. Especially since we'll lose the Renegades with 8th edition.

>>52377045
Well maybe if it was a trade-off to take FE instead of just being better formations, all relics, crisis troops and mandatory bondage knives.

>>52376722
Orks get a supplement for every Klan equally. Blood Axes and Freebootas count as being part of every alliance but Tyranids, and cannot be taken in forces with Chaos Daemons.

Just give Tau auxiliaries already. Seriously. Do it.

Necron Dynasties are given supplements like the Orks.

Tyranids and Genestealers.

Reminder that anyone who says Orks should use Boys should be reported and ignored.

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>>52377043
They both took Raptor formations that let them Assault out of deepstrike. They also took a Posessed formation as they came in turn two right in front of the Guard lines. They tried sending some more lascannons at my Shadowsword with no successs. One of their Heldrakes came in as well and flamed some Guardsman as well but not much happened in shooting They charged the Possessed and Warp Talons into my main Guard blob. The first unit killed enough to be disengaged from combat and the second one sadly wiped the Guardsmen out to the last man. They also charged terminators into conscripts which somehow managed to hold the line.

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>>52377068
Best I got anon.

I used to have friends that played 40k, but they all quit. Now i've noone to game with. How do you guys suggest i convince/force/trick/blackmail my friends into getting back into the hobby?

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>>52377164

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>>52377186
We hold the line to our last breath.

Whats the best anti tank leman russ?
Whats the best all around good leman russ?

>>52377177
Do you live near a GW or an LGS?

Damn OPs pic really brings me back. I remember loving those mini on kolfers old 40k site

>>52377177
Whe have they left? What are they playing right now?

>>52377175
Damn, looks cool from what I can tell. The wings might make him a cool Raptor Tzeentch Lord.

>>52377206
Best AT russ: Exterminator
Best allrounder: Eradicator

>>52376965
Just buy it anon or wait a few months

>>52377213

About 45 minutes away. How are the crowds generally at LGS and GW stores usually? Are they feiendly to newcomers/newbs to the game?

>>52377206
Vanquisher is probably best anti-tank and Executioner is probably the best all around one.

>>52377153
Nobz only, then?

>>52377177
>GW has gotten less retarded
>Custodes and skits aria, everybody loves those

>>52377220

Used to play orks/nids/guards respectively but one passed away and everyomlne stopped playing basically

Eradication Ray or Volkite for Admech Dominus? Also best forge world knight for Admech?

I want to run a Victrix Strike Force at 1500 points, what auxiliary should I use?

>>52377220

Oh as in what games are they playing? Wasting hours and hours infront of MMOs basically lol. Im getting tired and burnt out on vidya and now want to do some tabletop games but they refuse

>>52377245
Oh, I'm sorry then. Well, you can tell them that 8e is coming, be open to house-rules so playing orks and nids would be a little more appealing, suggest starting new armies but on budget, you know - I have dragged my firends into ___AoS___ by playing 500pts group. We had a great time painting our little armies, trying new stuff etc. Just make them newbies again - the first steps into hobby was the best time for me

>>52377177
Ease them in with tabletop simulator, that's what I've been doing (it's working).

>>52377245
Might have to wait till 8th to sway em because orcs and nids suck rightnow.

Has the Adeptus Custodes Codex been uploaded yet?

>>52377276
Yeah maybe he could introduce them to HoR kill team? Very small games, could use their existing armies to create multiple lists for it pretty easily and it could encourage them to try out new armies. Its not perfectly balanced but its better than GW.

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You will never be this happy.
:(

>>52377206
Exterminator with multimeltas and lascannon. Vanquisher with the same extras is good too.

Pask in a Punisher with those same extras is the best against everything.

Exterminator and Executioner are your best bet for most well rounded. Exterminator with plasma cannons or heavy bolters is good against anything. Executioner with plasma cannons and lascanno is amazing anti infantry and anti Mc. It's also decent against vehicles because you have a lot of shots and ap2. It's very expensive though.

Eradicator is your best budget tank that is still good against a lot of things. Plus it takes away re rollable bike jinks.

> New guy shows up at my shop
>Only plays the cheesiest shit like barkstar, smashfucker, and over cheesed Tau and Eldar builds
>Is baffled why no one wants to play with him
>Somehow has a GF that refuses to play with male minis, will only play girls ala Sisters of either kind
>Never paints his minis, his GF does that for him

How do I explain to him that he's being a cunt, and that for most players it's just about enjoying the game and hobby, not just about winning?

>>52377360
Those faces don't look very nurgle-y to me.
I mean, apart from the smile.

>>52377500
make sure he gets no games until he starts playing none WAAC lists.

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>>52377205
Our turn two all of my Scions came in and one Vendetta came in too. Melta Scions wiped out a Land Raider and my other Scions wiped out a few Warp Talons and CSM. Abaddon also got VANQUISHED by my tank commander and a Chimera and regular battle tank popped a Rhino. My ally's Devil Dogs killed a Land Raider and his veterans charged and killed another Rhino. And my Shadowsword couldn't shoot It's main gun so it rammed a Land Raider but it wouldn't get a flipped result (till later). A Hellturkey also got blown out of the air too.

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>>52377550

>>52377206
Without hull/sponson weapons best AT is Vanquisher if you use FW or Divination psykers, Demolisher if not. All around best is the Exterminator, I wish you could take hull/sponson Autocannons for maximum S7 shooting.

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>>52377566
And I'm still surprised why everyone always takes the bait and charge the Guardsmen instead of the tanks but my Conscripts were able to hold and kill a few Terminators too in combat.

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>>52377500
>Never paints his minis, his GF does that for him

Why did he even bother ? Paint is a huge part of the fun when you do hobby.

CAN I PRIME MY MODELS WITH MECHANICUS GREY BUT IN THE POT

>>52377655
>CAN I PRIME MY MODELS WITH SOMETHING THAT ISN'T PRIMER

>>52377247
Im torn between atrapos or acheron but leaning toward atrapos for pure fuckery. Also i guess volkite is better since i havent heard that great things from eradication ray

>>52377615
I like modeling, playing, socializing, reading fluff, but hate painting. Am I having wrong-bad fun too?

>>52377360
Is that an egg or a hood?

>>52377683
Depends, are you a WAAC fag ?

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>>52377609
My Veterans hunting down and killing a Chaos lord

>>52377247
Eradication Ray. The Volkite's a cool nod back to 30k, but it's not all that great. The Macropistol gives your Dominus decent anti-infantry fire anyway.

Daily reminder: Play to the mission and crush puss.

>>52376847
>diggaz
oh god, yes

>>52377683
I am similar. Painting is my least liked part of this hobby. I still do it though. I have most of my army painted even though it's all very eh

>>52377206

Ill tell you what tank ISNT the best AT.

The vanquisher. Single-shot and BS 3 is hilariously shit.

>>52377500

What if winning is how he enjoys the hobby?

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>>52377786
On their turn three another Helldick came in and a Raptor squad mishapped and killed itself after deepstriking in. A Lord of Change also popped up and mulched some of my ally's Guardsmen as well. They also managed to get my Shadowsword down to two hullpoints with pyschic powers but all of their Heretek powers combined were unable to stop it. They managed to kill a Leman Russ with Havocs but most of their success came in combat.

>>52377872
Then he should try a list people might actually want to play against

>>52377844
Fuck off

Dont take the bait /tg/

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Last FW thunderhawk was sold. Meet new plastic thunderhawk, pic is from HH Inferno.

>>52377844
I can fap to this

>>52377872
go get a new hobby then

A discord server for all things GW! perfect for when the thread is dead or you want faster conversation.

https://discord.gg/Zeh7nhC

>>52377931
these threads have been going four a day why do we need a discord

>>52377911
>Another huge expensive plastic model that won't be fun to play against.

Great.

>>52377844
I wanna fuck those marine tits

>>52377500

Either pull him or his GF aside and have a little 1-on-1 chat, and explain the basic etiquette expectations of your little micro-society. If you do it with him directly, he'll probably appreciate the man to man respect, and want to come back. If you talk to his GF, she'll probably know a better way to put it that he would listen to.

Either way, put it in the context of telling them because the little society you have going on here WANTS to keep them around and be included (whether thats true or not), and everyone likes them, but it's just better for everyone involved if they adhere to the unwritten rules a bit better.

Practice good body posture (standing up straight, shoulders back and square, head up), good eye contact, and a confident voice. Most of us are obviously nerds here so it might not be easy or natural, but the longer it goes on without being addressed, the bigger of a problem it will be.

Just don't pin negative associations on anonymous sources, like "people have been talking, and we're annoyed with you about X Y Z". It will create resentment. Use positive association instead, like "I'm saying this because all of us actively want y'all around".

May not be what you want, but it's just a necessary part of a social setting sometimes.

>>52377944
At least it might look cool and is fluffy part of the Marine army, unlike say Imperial Knights.

For a Chaos Rhino, would I be better off mounting a Havoc Launcher in one of the forward little spots, or missing the Razorback assembly and having it centered as a turret in the back?

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R8 me list /tg/.

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>>52377885
Possessed in pic related ended up thing combat with the PCS after some lucky flamer overwatch. And the Demon prince charged the Shadowsword but failed all of his rolls to damage it so we were left with this shot which is one of my favorite of the game. We ended up having to end it here after running out of time with the Guard winning a narrow victory over the vile Traitors and Heretics. I hope you enjoyed the batrep /tg/ did I hold the line well? And feel free to comment on anything that you think I could improve on.

>>52377844

I am p sure there are female chaos marines. Bile can make anything work.

That said, Astartes armor is so big I doubt they'd have boob plate at all.

>>52378017
>That said, Astartes armor is so big I doubt they'd have boob plate at all.
Clearly you don't understand the whole idea behind Female Space Marines

>>52377872
Then he probably needs to work on those self esteem issues.

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>>52377360
Problem, Imperium?

>>52378017
>I am p sure there are female chaos marines
This shit has been spammed constantly, where is it from?

>>52378017

Boys only clubs are silly and badass warrior women is a fun archetype even when completely removed from fetishising it?

Blood Angels would probably have boobplate. Going by their gleaming muscle suits they are exactly that brand of pervert.

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>>52377586
>All around best is the Exterminator
>main gun kills .8 MEQ

>>52378044
It's like a single line in a Horus Heresy book where Fabulous Bill says "I could make a female space marine easily because I'm just so awesome" before blowing Slaanesh's cock.

>>52378044

There was some asshole who made women into massive bloated living breeding tanks that birthed adult but skinless Astartes.

>>52378044
It's more just a series of inferences. Chaos has tech priests unrestricted by things like bans on tech heresy, Chaos Gods have all sorts of literal magic and booms to give to their followers, and at a certain point it's entirely feasible.

I mean, say you have a female cultist champion that gets +1 Strength, Toughness, and initiative from the boon table. Then imagine they live long enough to improve to WS/BS 4 and get some power armor. Functionally, they're on par with a Space marine.

>>52378069
Which one? Unless you mean a novel because I don't read that shit.
>>52378080
That's different, that was a birthing chamber.

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>>52378069

>Fabtastic Billy
>Worshiping Slaanesh

Opinion on going to Chinaman for miniatures?

I'm mostly interested in the Forgeworld stuff that may no longer be often available (and maybe more in the future)

What's your experience with them and how much did you usually get stuff from them for?

>>52378080

The daemonculaba. Research and look at art at own risk.

I was surprised when the same idea was made in Berserk.

>>52377609
Everyone expects to just roll over guardsmen.

Quantity has a quality of it's own though. Did they have a priest or commissar or were they just bog-standard conscripts?

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>>52377360

>>52377421
>>52377586
Do you think an Executioner with a hull lascannon is good enough? Plasma Sponsons are 30 points which is a lot, and I really hate the look of sponsons, as well as rolling 3 gets hot rolls is scary for me, let alone 5

>>52378124
You only roll 3 gets hots if you take the sponsons, you don't roll gets hot for every blast you make with the executioner cannon.

>>52378109

how do you even find it?

>>52378017
This.

Pretty sure all Slaanesh worshiping chaos space marines are at least trans

>>52378151
So if you a roll you lose a turn of shooting bascially? Like ork looted wagons all over again
Is it still viable without sponsons? I really hate the look of sponsons so badly. It pisses of the history nerd-faggotry in me

Anons, I want a boardgame where Grots have to go and find/rescue the Warboss' favorite Squig before something happens to it/the Grots are killed.

>>52378166
Coolcastornot is the name and I heard you email the guy and it goes from there.

>>52378120

I like how John Blanchey the new DG models are looking

>>52378017
>That said, Astartes armor is so big I doubt they'd have boob plate at all.
Considering they wouldn't even have boobs to begin with, they definitely wouldn't have boob plate.

>>52378179
I was talking out of my arse, yes you roll for each shot you make to see if the weapon gets hot. So the executioner has to roll 3D6 every time it fires, and for each 1 you roll you take a glancing hit on a 1, 2 or 3. So no, you don't lose your whole turn of shooting to a single gets hot.

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>>52378179
>Not liking the landship look

I'll be honest with you desu, that's pretty plebian.

>>52377177
Kidnap members of their family

>>52378179
>I really hate the look of sponsons so badly.
Weird, I'm the opposite. I think Leman Russ look like fucking GARBAGE without sponsons so I can never run the battle-cannon version.

>>52378336
That's overly complicated scheme. Why would you kidnap person A to convince person B to play when you can kidnap person A and make the very same person A play?

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>>52378336
Don't forget to diddle them.

I remember when I was kidnapped and diddled. I went and bought 1000 burgerbucks of models the next day. I also caught a traps-in-diapers fetish.

>>52378091
A crucial difference people keep overlooking, though, is that that particular female is still not a Space Marine, because she doesn't have the genetic and biological augmentations that make a Space Marine a Space Marine. Instead, she is swollen with massive amount fo Chaos Boons and warp-fuckery to make her on par with, if not possibly better, than many Chaos Marines. At the end of the day, though, she's still just a regular person who's been blessed by Chaos, and those results cannot be replicated by Loyalists.

She is EQUAL to a Space Marine, but she is NOT a Space Marine. As such, there are still no female Space Marines.

>>52377609

>tartaros termies with autocannons charge into guardsmen

would have been a different story with heavy flamers instead of reapers

>>52378179
>hating sponsons
They're literally the best part of the LR and the LR.

>>52378199
Me too, anon. I can't wait to see what people do with them.

>>52378394

So she just needs a sex change? Got it.

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HOLY FUCK IT'S HAPPENING GET FUCKING HYPE

>>52378394
>those results cannot be replicated by Loyalists.

Hence why people keep saying Chaos only

>she is NOT a Space Marine.

Who cares? The way to run it would still be to use the Chaos marine profiles in the CSM book.

I'm pretty sure loyalists have a method of making space marines from much older recruits (with a terrible success rate) most notably done with some of Russ's back in the legion days. Are those also not space marines, despite being just as good physically and wearing power armor? More importantly, does it matter?

>>52378017
>I am p sure there are female chaos marines
Yeah, but that's warp magic. That can do anything theoretically
>Bile can make anything work.
Bile likes to blow his own horn, but he really can't. 10,000 years later and he still hasn't made his new super race, and I'm pretty sure he still has super cancer

>>52378449
40K stats aren't granular enough for that. There's 0 difference in strength between a barely-trained conscript and a giant space gorilla.

>>52378390
It depends on whether he wants to play against a chained up, distressed person who has been locked in a specifically designed basement/prison/hobby gaming area or against a person distraught over the potential danger threatening their family member while in a normal hobby location.

>>52378060
I'll admit I'm not fond of the blast/ordnance Lemans without twin-linked for my bad scatter rolls or PE for the Executioner. Doesn't mean I won't take one as Pask's buddy, I'll just have more Exterminators than any other variant.

>>52378449
>(since females heal better than males)
>implying Astartes healing doesn't completely overwrite and outstrip that

>higher leadership
fucking lol and I'm a grill

>>52378449
>higher leadership
You wot m8?

>>52378576
>>52378594
>>52378608
>World Eaters
>so covered with shit that they look like a gray mass

Yeah nah

>>52378151
Yes you do. You roll it for every shot.

>>52378393
I would have expected the diddling to impede the amount and quality of the 40k games due to interruptions by cold showering and crying, but if the fiddling and diddling exacerbates autism and other social disabilities that could be a wargaming boon.

>>52378576
>>52378594
>>52378608
>>52378625
Holy fuck anon these are AMAZING, 10/10 would play against on a fully painted terrain-dense table

>>52378630
Shit taste

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>>52378576
>>52378594
>>52378625
>>52378608
Even though there's a bit too many gubbinz for my liking I think they look great, makes me ashamed of my army quality

Really captures the vibe of corruption and general hideousness associated with chaos corruption

>>52378673
Despite this being obvious bait, you clearly don't read the fucking lore because
>What are Tallarn

>>52378682
>too many gubbinz
>in 40k

Is decurion detatchment for necrons to cheesy? Im hearing a lot of people talking bad. Will people at my lgs want to play if i bring a decurion with a canoptek harvest?

>>52378576
>>52378594
>>52378608
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>>52378665
>>52378695
I'm saving all of these in my inspiration folder

>>52378705
It's very frustrating to play against for a casual army. 4+Feel no Pain that goes to a 5+ with instant death makes your units insanely durable.

The only reason my group can handle the me from player in our group is because he still hasn't figured out how to space out models. He leaves them all in base to base so you can hit 5 with a small blast.

>>52378673
I dunno but let me know what we can do to cater to your every need because I'd hate for you to lose control of yourself and drive a truck through a crowd due to an exclusionary lack of relatable sci fi wargame based fiction.

>>52378726

Yeah i mean i know building the strongest army possible shouldnt be looked down on. I've just never been to play before i dont want to be shunned

>>52377205
dat gloss paint....Oh MY!

>>52378784
Your shit is so awesome, it reminds me of all the conversions Blanche does that he shows off on his facebook page

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>>52378576
>>52378594
>>52378608
>>52378625
>>52378647
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>>52378695
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>>52378734
>>52378754
Love these, anon. I think the conversion beamer rapiers are actually my favorite. What was your method for painting?

>>52377360
>>52377516
Nurgle is happy! Jovial even.

>>52378819
>Except the smile
I mean, I don't know what he has got over his face.

>>52378673
You already have Genestealers, what more do you want?

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Are cutters and drills ever a good idea on Acolytes?

>>52377247
Eradication ray.

>>52378835
If you all would just lay down and brain yourselves, it'd save us a lot of trouble.

>>52378840
Ojou drills are always a good idea.

>>52378838
Don't you dare associate us with the mudslimes

>tfw no genestealer to give your big ork mushroom to

>>52378853
That's a solid method

>>52376703
Next time wait until it reaches page nine, the previous threads are still alive for fucks sake.

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>>52378673
>How are we going to fix that?
Play Rogue Trader (1st Edition of 40k).

>>52378961
Yeah. Another anon said it but your dark wash heavy style is very blanche. I dig it. I really like the burnt armor look on your butchers. Great work.

/tg/, which armies do you wish you saw more of in your local gaming club/store?

>>52378673
No modern religion is represented in the 40k universe.

>>52379009
GSC, so i can see how a GSC vs GSC match would go down

>>52379009
Tyranids. Orks, Genestealer Cults, Admech.
Right now we have 1 Ork player, 1 Space Wolves player, 1 Imperial Guard player and that's pretty much it, haven't seen our Grey Knights/Tau player recently. I have Space Marines, Imperial Guard and Sisters myself.

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>>52379009
Tyranids, Guard, anything FW and Necrons. Literally no crons, not enough giant bug hordes of awesome and not enough tanks. We have one Renegade Unending Host player, but he rolls with Lamenters, 30k/40k Death Guard, Nurgle daemon, Dark Eldar AND Orks, so it's not exactly like he uses them often. Would quite like to try myself against Kriegers.

Would have started with Nids if Admech hadn't got better fluff and rules, the models are badass. As is, my Biologis HH army is using a lot of their kits.

*Assimilates Ironically*

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>>52378870
>Infiltrate a society where they're not wanted or needed with the aim of tearing it down
>Gradually reproduce and destabilise the host nation with sporadic violence as their numbers grow
>Eventually reach critical mass and overthrow the host nation's government and institute their prefered law/summon the hive fleet
>Will be massively disappointed when they discover their promised utopia is a sharia shithole just like the one their parents originally fled from/getting nommed by extra-galactic space gribblies

It fits.

Is this worth it /40kg/?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/warhammer-40k-eldar-harlequin-the-joker-from-batman-/182496180181?hash=item2a7d9eb7d5:g:SSEAAOSw4CFYz0uS

>>52379088
...
I'd normally just >/pol/

But I'm too racist to disagree

>>52379064

Practically no player race practices altheism in m42

>Imperium: doctrines of the Ecclesiarchy
>Astartes: beliefs in the Emperor range from being equals as the collective pantheon of the superhuman guardians of humankind to absolute diety
>Eldar: surviving Eldar god triumvirate
>Chaos: Chaos gods
>Orks: Gork and Mork
>Necrons: Stargods
>Tyranids: Hivemind, possibly the "divine light" of the Emperor
>Tau: the Greater Good, or Farsight's truth

Everyone believes in something or someone, and those who do not are often killed by those who do.

>>52379009
Id like to see more haemonculus cults/deldar kabals

>>52379121
>41 euros
What the fuck, no
It's not a unique model, it's a default Harlequin with a shit paintjob.

>>52378712
Both sicarans i take it? With the left one the actual model whats the right one made out of?

Hey 40kgen, how do I tell if something is Finecast? I bought some servitors on ebay and after stripping them they seem to be a white resin sort of material.

I mean I don't particularly care since they're good casts and I got them cheap but it made me wonder if these are actual Finecast or not.

>>52379121
God no.

>>52379158
>how do I tell if something is Finecast?

by stripping them and finding that they seem to be a white resin sort of material.

Nearly finalised a 1k Necron list. Would appreciate any advice.

Reclamation 621 pts

Catacomb barge 135 (210)
voidreaper 30
phlactery 15
gauntlet of conflag 30

Necron Warriors 130 x2

immortals 85

Tomb blades 54 (66)
shield vanes x3 6
nebuloscope x3 6


Canoptek Harvest 378 pts

Spyder 50 (60)
gloom crystal 10

wraiths 120 (258)
+3 wraiths 120
whip coils x6 18

Scarab Swarm 60

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>>52379088
>Implying that when the hive fleet arrives the cult won't be liberated from their mortal flesh to be reborn with immortal, perfect bodies to travel the universe forever as part of the great devourer.
Let me guess, you think the emperor only has two arms too, right?

>>52378312
>Shell hits sponson
>Exposes hull
great design

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>>52379234
Sounds fucking dumb.

>>52379064
>Lack of purple is a shade of purple
KYS

>>52379239
>shell hits turret
>exposes hull
>shell hits front armour
>exposes hull
>shell hits tread
>immobilizes tank
It's almost like you don't want to get hit with shells at all

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>>52378630
>What are 40k aesthetics?
>I would rather play against typical unpainted garbage / My little pony meme armies

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>>52379234

>>52379010
Catholicism is. Ollanius Pius is one.

r8 my Salad Mandible list please, 500 pt

HQ: Librarian, Mastery Level 2, Boltgun, 90 pts

Scout Squad (5) 55 pts, 1 Rhino Dedicated Transport 35 pts

Scout Squad (5) 55 pts, 1 Rhino Dedicated Transport 35 pts

Dreadnought, Twin-linked heavy flamer, Missile launcher, 115 pts

Lucius Pattern Dreadnought Drop Pod, 50 pts

Whirlwind, 65 pts

>>52379239
Inferior xenos shells would simply glance off the Omnissiah-blessed armour of the Leman Russ.

>>52379268
>dip a model in super glue
>roll it in the ol' bits box
>spray it gray and wash with more gray
>god tier models

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>>52379326
>>52378630

>>52378939
Kek

>>52379288
If he'd picked the right side and been in the cult this never would have happened.

>>52379326
>clearly needs glasses
>shit talking godly tier models without posting any of his own

>>52379382
What would be grimdark AF would be if that head was the original owner of that wrack's body and was removed and replaced by another dude's head and forced to watch as something else uses its body to do crazy fucked up wrack-stuff.

>>52377997
Damn! I was rooting for chaos. I wonder what a game would be like between you and I...

[Spoiler]I have 3 Heldrakes in my list with a lascannon predator battering with a warpsmith using the formation that can let them use daemonic possession multiple times. Iron warriors are fun[/spoiler]

>>52379465
Fucking hell the Spoiler didn't work. That's embarrassing

Not sure if this would be the place to ask versus making a thread on lit, but I just finished the Night Lords omnibus, it being my first Warhammer novel.

Could anyone recommend what to read from here? I already have the World Bearer omnibus ordered, and need something to read until it arrives.

>>52379400
>>52379340
>receive criticism
>REEEEEEEEEEEE MY MODELS ARE PERFECT HOW DARE YOU SAY OTHERWISE
kek, nice comeback grognard.
Your models are nice but you cover them in shit that detracts from them, try not to get too upset about it.

>>52379483
Chaos not as subtle as we give it credit for.

>>52379502
>he thinks I'm the anon who posted the models
>unironically using "grognard" after that word has become the instant signifier of the universally hated /pol/ shitposter
Troll elsewhere faggot.

>>52379502
And yet his 'shit' models are better than anything you could ever produce.

Try to hide your jealousy son, it's an anonymous image board for that reason :^)

>>52379522
I'll see myself out

:(/spoiler]

>>52379543
What in the god damn fuck. It fucking subtlety covered the Spoiler shit.

Chaos is weird, man

>>52379563
Yeah I... actually have no idea how you managed that. Kek.

>>52379212

Sub par.

>>52377206
Demolishers are a good all-around tank. I run 3

>>52379601
When people don't talk about warhammer :(

>>52379601
>shitposter fishing for answers on how he can be the worst troll
No fuck off

New Death Guard WHEN???? has there been any hints or clues as to how soon these will be coming out? I know that GW said they would be previewing things that would be coming out for the following year. Is there any evidence that says it will be sooner rather than later? I am trying to budget my hobby funds of which are very limited. I need some vehicles, but if these models drop next month and i have shot my wad so to speak I am gonna to be kicking myself

>>52379247
>The truth
>Sounds fucking dumb.
please continue to worship your corpse god while the true faithful see all their dreams made manifest by the unstoppable will of the hive mind

>>52379622
8th Edition my dude. They have new weapons and shit so they are gonna bring them out may/june

>>52379622
Generally if they're releasing teaser videos you have less than a month to wait.

>>52379581
Are there any obvious mistakes?

>>52379631
>>52379638
Oh, yeah, actually he has a good point... it might be a couple months since 8th edition is going to completely change everything.

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>>52379630

>>52379665
>those scions
Makes me want to start a sole army of them so badly. Look how fucking cool they are

Are we still waiting for both Talons of the Emperor epubs?

>>52379132
Most loyalist SM are atheist, or hold other forms of belief. Black Templars are seen as a frowned upon oddity in worshipping their 'grandfather' so to speak.

What's best bet for Tau trying to beat Necrons, in terms of Crisis loadout? I have a trio currently set up as Burning Eye-D, but I'm considering swapping to Centurion to use the S8 blast profile to get the ID bonus against RP.

>>52379538
>>52379526
Look at these guys getting second hand upset, over models they don't own.
>I-IT'S BETTER THAN YOU CAN DO
Nice projection, no wonder you have such a troll problem when you're all such delicate little flowers, 'grognards'.

>>52379681
The new Scions make me cry because the old stormtroopers looked so much cooler.

>>52379158
That's probably finecast then.

Wait so because Daemons ALL had eternal warrior in 6th edition the codex doesn't come with any options to get it, so now i can only get it through Biomancy?
I'm sitting here in shock are crying after a rubric marine's aspiring sorceror killed my keeper of secrets.

>>52379705
One of the dudes in my group uses Cyclic Ion for S 8 blasts against warrior blobs. Fusion would also be decent.

>>52379665
God I like the storm troopers but 18" rapid fire fucking sucks, at least make them assault 2 GW!!!!

>>52379681
As someone who plays scions...don't. They're not nearly as cool on tabletop.

In reality those scions kill about 4 gaunts with their S3 weapons before getting charged and torn apart since GW took their pistols off them and they're still WS3/A1.

I built a scion army, now I'm buying AM models for an army that my scions are just going to be suicide tank-removal and late-game objective grabbers for.

>>52379158
Do you mean you want to know if they're genuine or recast?

The worse they are the more likely they are to be genuine. Finecast is awful.

>>52379489
>already have the Word Bearer omnibus on order
Nice, that's definitely my favorite 40k series. But I dunno man, sorry.

>>52379681
While scions are awesome, I don't think I could bear a full army of them. Guard have too many cool support units and vehicles to give all that up.

Why exactly are Tau and Necrons allies of convenience?

>>52379772
I suppose I'm a bit concerned about the range limitation. From what I've read elsewhere, getting that close tends to be hazardous. Also, double checking, I can't double up on CIBs, right? Due to being "experimental weapons" like the AFP?

>>52377944
Assuming the plastic thunderhawk would have similar/the same rules as the current variants, it would cost like what? 800 points? You will never see that thing in any normal sized game.

>>52379132
>I do not know what atheism means, the post

>>52379797
Because Tau are gullible.

>>52379797
Because of their mutual love of gunlines?

>>52379797
Because Newcrons are garbage

does anyone actually care if their models are recasts? the quality has gotten so good you cannot tell the difference...and they end up being much cheaper to purchase, the only problem is shipping time from china/russia/poland/czech repubilc

>>52379797
Because Tau are living Necrons. Just look at the faces.

>>52379810
Nah the cheetahfag never used grognard, he just shitposted about the Aeldari, but this grognardfag have been more abnoxious than the cheetah fag with his bait threads and grognard calling, it grey fucking tiresome since the second thread he kept with his grognard shill.

>>52379808
I think you might be limited to one per suit, but I'm not sure.

Also, the range isn't as bad as you think, considering you can jet over walls in the assault phase.

Missile pods might be a decent addition if you're worried. High volume high strength shooting is hard to go wrong with.

Can infantry independent characters join units of beasts?

>>52379899
Thanks for the input! Looking at some missilesides for HYMP. Will try out Centurion and see how it goes.

>>52379811
I really hope they changed a little the design so it doesn't look like a flying shoe, fucking feet fags and their disgusting fetish, but really a little less boxy would be a welcome change

>>52379912
yes but the squads now con only move as fast as the character

>>52379922
I'm not surprised shitposters are gonna shitpost

>>52379899
Not anymore
The sixth edition codex made airbursting and cyclic ion no longer limited so every suit can take as many as they can

>>52379828
What exactly does Tau offer the Necs though?

I just washed my brush cleaning jar, and I was wondering if there's any adverse effect for having dish cleaning liquid in your brush cleaning water?

>>52379953
Bodies.

>>52379922
This>>52379925, if you're going to do this at least make sure he can move as fast as the unit he's traveling with, so if they got the option for jump pack or bike take it.

>>52379949
Huh. At the very least, the 7e codex specifically points out that you can't twin-link them.

>>52379925
Okay, thanks, i was thinking about throwing a herald of nurgle into some beasts of nurgle so they can get the "each hit roll of a 6 causes an extra hit" locus. I decided to just do a retarded unit of 9 nurglings instead because im bound to roll some sixes with 45 attacks on the charge and with his palanquin of nurgle he will fit right in!

>>52379988
>Why is this space fantasy setting not hard sci-fi?

Space marines eat brains to absorb memories

>>52379965
Eh...for most brush/acrylic combinations it won't be a problem unless you leave soap stuck on the brush. It will work for cheap brushes, but if you have decent brushes, you want to go to a craft or art store and get a cake of brush soap, one can last for years.

>>52379922
Have you considered that it's more than one, most likely two or even three, people?

You just have to stop taking the bait, it's that simple.

>>52379581
So... no actual input?

>>52380005
that will be one hard unit to shift!

>>52378576
i mean the paint job looks fucking stellar but they dont look like world eaters

>>52380043
Fuck off troll
lets see your perfect models if you think you can do better

>>52380043
blue+white....totally world eaters!

>>52380042
Unless they blasts, templates or strength six or above shooting. If someone shoots them at strength six they roll to wound at T3 because majority toughness, but if the wounds are allocated to the herald do they instant death him or not?

>>52379922

How new are you to 4chan that you think greentext strawmen are in anyway unique? Jesus fucking christ...

>>52380069
It just goes to show how chronically butthurt the people in this thread are if they're grasping this hard.

They need calm down and stop calling everyone trolls, even if it is a troll it's the wrong response to get angry and make angry posts at them.

>>52380088
Killing one tenth of your enemy doesn't help. Rhinos and land raiders can shrug off those hits plus CSM can emerge from the warp or drop pods. The other two simply dont care how many you shot from six miles away it wont ever be more than a drop in the ocean.

>>52380088
>Field a mass of Leman russes

>Orks have a giant force field to march under to block all the shots, then when the crew goes for the ammo to reload it turns out to be crates of kommandos

>World eaters show up in transports that battle cannons can't scratch as daemons and terminators teleport into your lines and murder everyone

>Tyranids throw gaunts at you until you run out of shells, or just have a Mawloc pop up from under it and flip the tank over

When you factor in that assaulting from deep strike is totally possible in fluff, the better question is why anyone still uses guns.

>>52379988
>>52380088
They have force fields to protect them and big guns to knock out enemy artillery/flyers, they drop swarms upon swarms of Orks in rocks near the enemy position to charge enemy.
It doesn't matter if one horde gets blown away because they always have more.

Nids spray enemy positions with spore clouds that suffocate the enemy, mess with sensors and destroy machinery. They have fast flying monsters that can close the gap quickly as well as burrowing monsters that can undermine enemy positions.

CSM aren't a horde army, one of the black legion's trademark tactics is to destroy commanders and guns with terminator deep strike assaults, cutting off all support to the front lines.

>>52380155
>because no Tyranid/Ork horde is the same size)
The Hive mind isn't stupid anon, if mass gaunt hordes don't work it will use trygons and mawlocs to burrow under and destroy artillery.

Could soulburst from the ynnari make Orks great again, assuming it replaces something dumb like 'ere we go?

I have a very chill community, so I tried it in two back to back games, with a list built to take advantage of it. It was annoying to my opponent, but I didn't have any real success with it.

>>52380193
>battle cannons can't scratch
Battlecannons can destory landraiders dummy.

>>52380155
Rhinos no, but a given battle cannon shot has 1/6 of a chance to even glance a Land Raider. Even if you assume every shot hits, you need 24 Leman russes to take out 1 Land Raider. That's assuming absolutely no cover as well.

If you need a full tank battalion to take out a single enemy transport, you're ducked if they send more than 1 in your direction.

Is a Land Raider Spearhead strong enough to make them somewhat of a viable choice to use, if you can afford the huge 750 poin cost?

Currently have 2 LRCs and was considering if I should eventually get a third for 1500-1850 poikt games.

>>52377911
But... I want the metal one!

>>52380235
nevermind Spartan Assault Vehicles...or Mastadons.....jezus the Mastadons!

hey /tg/ ! Anyone has a good movie to recommend ? I'd love something in the theme of Alpha Legion, is there any good military intelligence/disinformation movies that include a large part of fight scenes ?

>>52380235
>Implying any IG list leaves home without melta-vets these days

>>52379988
>How can horde melee armies like Orks and World Eaters exist in 40k,

Because when you're strong enough to punch through a tank, wear walking tank armor and/or can literally survive getting your head chopped off and stapled on to a new body, getting in close and punching things to death is actually a viable combat strategy because the enemy cannot do those things and will fold like paper because of it?

Ranged weapons only dominate when your foe stays at range. Getting in close and mixing your lines together greatly reduces the effectiveness of enemy fire as they (usually) won't shoot at their own people with their more indiscriminate weapons like artillery and airstrikes. If you stay at a distance, your foe will keep using those weapons against you.

You're also ignoring that war in and of itself is the end goal of both of these factions. They don't fight to survive, they fight for the sake of fighting itself.

Also, Gork, Mork, and Khorne demands it.

Lrn 2 Tactics, scrub.

>>52379988
>How can horde melee armies
They don't.

Tyranids are fight using an air superiority doctrine. Orks use massed mechanized infantry.

>>52380155
>nuclear weapons can deal with them.

And also renders the territory you're fighting in uninhabitable for the foreseeable future. The Imperium tried the 'scorched earth' approach to fighting the Tyranids before; it worked, to an extent, but the collateral damage was so extreme the Inquisitor responsible was censured and kicked out by his peers.

>>52376776
tbqh friend, I just enjoy playing the game with friendly people.

I don't have many friends, and am usually depressed. Playing it with people is really one of the few things I look forward to.

I've only been able to play kill team, 1000pt, and part of a 1250 pt.

>>52380311
>Guard has more tanks than Nids have Mawlocs

Oh, so it's trolling then

>>52379784
Since when did people collect an army purely based on stats my man?

>>52380311
>Mawlocs could be a problem but the Guard has more tanks than Nids have Mawlocs.
>Imperial Guard/Space Marines are always described as thinly stretched out across the galaxy, unable to cover all warzones
>meanwhile, Tyranids have the biomass of 12 galaxies behind them
I'm not really a friend of the bugs, but you have to admit, there are probably more Mawlocs than Guardsmen.

>>52380319
>The game matches the lore

Is Liquitex a ok substitute for Vallejo or Citadel? What about just for primer?

>>52379715
>All atheists are the same, there are no different opinions, this way I can justify my stupid ideas about reality without having to ask difficult questions.

KYS

>>52380377
>purely
It's one of the things you have to consider.

It's like what I say to Ork players.
It's great to collect Orks because they look so good. You can build and paint your own warboss, give him his own little name and back ground as warboss headsmasha.

But, doesn't it kill the enjoyment a little that headsmasha will never actually smash any heads? Because his stats are so shit, he can bearly hold his own in a fight but any good character will wreck him. It's so sad to collect a horde of burly looking boyz only to be reminded they hit like limp wristed pansies.

Since when did we fall so far? It was only last week when we barely had any trolls. What went wrong?

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>>52380377
I...I just want to win a game now and then...

>>52380465
Although I agree with you, I'd rather have an army of my dudes who look cool as hell die than an army of people who I don't like and win

>>52380407
what is this dick measuring contest all about really?

if any one of these factions were as easily dealt with as what you are proposing, then they wouldnt have lasted in the fluff or as an in game faction.

we can all come up with scenarios where our chosen faction can defeat some other chosen faction. this is not difficult if you have even the smallest amount of imagination. Seeing as how we all have the same hobby (pretend generals in a sci-fi wargame) it is safe to say we are the kind of people who in fact do have imaginations.

stop being a screaming autist mouth breather and acting like your chosen faction is special or unique like a fancy little snowflake

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>>52380472
We allowed /pol/ to divide us.

Also, pls r8 and help me form a strategy other than park units on objectives and hope for the best.

>>52380062
>lets see your perfect models if you think you can do better
i never said that, and it doesnt matter if i can "do better" anybody can have honest criticism

faggot

>>52380493
Man, who cares about winning? All you need is an army that you like and bam, you win right there

>>52380407
>Their big guns can be destroyed by counter-artillery fire.
Or prehaps the guards guns will be destroyed by counter-artillery fire. The assassins will fail and be cut down by Orks. Roks will make it past the navy and the guardsmen don't have enough ammo.

>using fire on nids
So what happens in the span of time between Nids gassing all their troops and high command getting off their areses and handing out rebreathers?
I dont see how guardsmen are going to shoot a mawloc to death while it's under ground, once it's above ground it'll go on a rampage while guards pour out of the tunnel it left.

>>52380407
>The Imperium has enough assassins that they can send one for every Mel in every ork horde
>Guard get issued researchers
>Living Biological tanks can't shrug off a few puny plasma shots before eating everyone present

And I thought Chaosfags were bad about wanking the superiority of their faction. Turns out its Guard.

>>52380311
>Drop pods can't be used without Orbital Dominance which they will never have against the Navy.
Chaos can can establish orbital supremacy all the time, Imperial Navy is invinsible. They just don't have pods. Dreadclaws are exceedingly rare.

>>52380428
No, they really don't

>>52380500
I'm just saying if you have a second favorite you may want to collect a bit of that first.
Don't let being tabled over and over again be your only experience of 40k.

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>>52380472
8th ed announcement, /pol/ remembered we exist, arrived expecting high-quality Trumperor memes and discussions on purging untermensch/xenos, got triggered by our failure to respond to their rallying cry to defend the 'Last Bastion of White Male Hobbies' and a few faggots took it upon themselves to stay here and 'fight' against the SJWs/Feminists/Muslims that apparantly infest our general, largely by attempting political thread derails into everything from gender politics to American right/left antagonism.

>>52380523
You've clearly never had an army that routinely gets tabled on turn 3.

>>52380558
>Battle cannons cut down melee hordes!
>And land raiders!
>And every regiment has a million billion tanks and can blast all your dumb dumb armies to dust!

>>52380513
Cut the power weapon from the bike squad and upgrade that flamer to a plasma gun, or a melta gun.

Sitting on objectives is a good plan but you look like you're desperately lacking some ap2 or some ways to deal with av14.

>>52380652
Ok, I wasn't sure if having a veteran sergeant was worth it without a good weapon.

I planned to use the missile devs for that, I could possibly make them LC devs but then they are only good against that.

IS LIQUITEX OK

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>>52380652
>>52380677
Doing that gives me this

>>52380626
I play dark eldar my man

>>52380707
the think chunky stuff at hobby lobby?

it is not what i would use, but it is cheap and if that is a factor you can make it work. You just have to think the shit out of it!

it is thick like toothpaste, you should thin it to nearly milk consistency

>>52380740
*thin......thin the shit out of it

>>52380713
I play scions.

Call me when your codex has five units, one of which is just a waste of a CAD slot and two are transports.

>>52380155
It doesn't matter if they deploy in such numbers or not, because they are going to deploy again tommorow and the day after that and the day after that and you are going to run out of shots. As for nuclear weapons after the first time the tyranids are going to use psychic powers to detect them and devise some kind of counter like teleporting them into the warp or shooting them down with mind bullets/ramming gargoyles into them strapped with acid bio-explosives. Orks are either going to believe their way out of it or devise some trick like a mass tellyporta to dodge it or just dakka it down before it gets to you.

Generally speaking orbital bombardment is effective because that shit is going to be faster than the missiles but tyranids are going to physically overwhelm any spaceships and orks have their own dumbass ships to shoot yours down. Not to mention in either case they have methods of deploying without ever BEING at long range to be nuked, as tyranids can go through tunnels and bio drop pod spore things and orks can use tellyportas, dig tunnels or crash planes into you.

>>52380677
Well, with missles you're fishing for 6s from only 4 shots, maybe less if they've taken damage. Even with tank hunter that's not a good place to be.

Use your captain as the beat stick to carry the squad to victory in close combat, use the regular sargent just to accept challenges the captain doesn't like the look of but you can give a melta bomb, that would make your force more rounded.

It just looks like to me you have a shit ton of anti-infantry fire power but not much ap2/anti-tank. Snipers rend, they're good vs monsters and other space marine bikers but you don't want to be relying on 6s when you've got some nasty shit running at you.

>>52380776
Your fault for using an ally codex as a main army.

>>52380319
But melta vets aren't the 600m+ range that's being discussed.

>>52380558
>as I said Battle Cannons cut down WE and Orks with ease, they won't even get to melee.
That's why the drop out of the sky in fucking weaponized asteroids or drop pods, right into the middle of the enemy where they can jump out and punch people to death. They alternatively fight with large amounts of disposable warm bodies to absorb enemy fire as they charge the foe.

They also utilize tanks, aircraft, artillery, and ranged weapons when the situation calls for it (WE are still Space Marines, after all) - they just greatly prefer to kill people up close when they can do so.

>what are gaunt hordes
>what is a green tide

Completely expendable forces that exist purely to force they enemy to waste bullets and shoot at them?

>I said nuclear weapons not exterminatus.

Nukes still cause a shitload of collateral damage to the region, and are only utliized as a last resort even by harsher military commanders in 40K because of this.

>Hive Worlds are located in inhospitable environments due to that kind of pollution and still thrive just fine.
>"thrive"

They exist by shitting out warm bodies faster than they die. Life is still a polluted hellscape with unimaginably shitty conditions for the average citizen. You would absolutely not want to live in one of these places if you could avoid it.

>And yet you don't see hordes of hundreds of Mawlocs while pretty much any Armored Regiment has hundreds of thousands of tanks.

A. Yes you do?
B. The purpose of the Mawloc is to open open gaps and holes in enemy lines while simultaneously creating tunnels in the earth for other Tyranid organisms to start pouring through. They are vanguard organisms.

Ranged warfare is only the "best" form of warfare if you care about surviving the battle. There's a reason it works for Orks, Tyranids, and CSM, all of whom give literally zero fucks about their own casualities and only those of the enemy.

>>52380776
Let's not make this a depression test lol. I wanna play Scions though. They're cool as fuck

>>52380794
Ok thanks for the ideas. How do you feel about the change I made here?

>>52380708

In addition I can take the vet sarge down to a sarge giving me 14 points.

Add a melta bomb to said sarge, 9 points left.

Do the LC devs do more anti-tank than before? I feel like that's a big change.

radium jezzail dragoon or autocannon ballistari?

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>>52377844
1/10, the conversion is horrible and that's a dead giveaway, had you just suggested to switch heads it would have been more credible. An effort was made, I guess. Go back to the drawing board.

>>52380472
8th leaks

>>52377944
Meh, Thunderhawk is crap. It's a huge barely armed brick

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>>52376847
>Diggaz- Human elements. Junk rats, Witness Me!, Borderlands/Mad Max style, massed vehicles
I like this idea

>>52380798
But the models look so good!

>>52380767
quite the opposite actually.....
first of all i am not the same person that has been arguing with you...


secondly what i am saying is that orks, tyranid, world eaters, space marines, chaos space marines, eldar....blah de fucking blah blah......have just as good of a chance defeating each other as any of them do.

this is a game setting that tries to show you that IG may very well defeat the Orks in a battle....but in the next battle Orks may defeat the IG

the same can be said about litterally ALL of the factions that exist.

this makes sense because in the actual game on the tabletop any army can defeat any other army...it comes down to a mixture of superior tactics from the opposing general and the factor of randomness....dice are a thing and can sometimes fuck you over....or send you to new heights of glory.

basically your opinion about your chosen faction doesnt really mean shit. get off your high horse....you arent special

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>>52380794
I put melta bombs on sarge and chaplain, made the devs LC, upgraded a flamer to melta.

I took out vet sarge/power sword, and lost my ablative space marine in the dev squad.

>>52380767
>Orks can't into tactics
And yet they're outwitted their enemies in the past.
>Imperial Assassins are stronger than Meks
And yet in the lore some have died to Orks.
>The Imperial Navy has the grestest firepower in the galaxy
And yet they've been beaten by Ork pirates in the past.
>Anyone who knows he's fighting Nids
And what if they don't know they're fighting Nids? What if they're cut off from supply lines by the Nids shadow in the warp?

You seem to be under this assumption the imperial forces will be perfectly organized and supplied to fight their enemy and the troops will carry out their orders perfectly without failure. That the opponents their fighting are somehow unable to harm the imperial forces with their own weaponry or destroy the tools you're mentioning.