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>>52294122

That is an incredibly cool looking Aya!

>>52294132
You're the most generic salt phrase response in the universe.
>>52294146
Drink responsibly anon!

>>52294122
Considering *all* feedback can cause serious issues early on in development, since there's such a wide variety of what people want and expect that it would be unworkable and lack any kind of solid theme and mechanics. Have a small group offering feedback during the formative period, and then once everything is more or less set and the numbers need to be worked, open it up to open feedback.

>>52294212
>Drink responsibly anon!
In the comfort of my own home. Always. And apparently I'll have another anon drinking with me out there somewhere. Cheers.

Is it true PoW forever ruined /pfg/'s ability to think about game balance?

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> game that rides around on its customizability
> in reality only a small subset of options are viable
> caster supremacy means if you can't play the magic metagame you lose as a GM
> players rape everything with spells
> the only fun abilities are useless

Remind me why you are not playing 5e again? The core rules are free.

>>52294264
What kind of answer are you looking for? Do you feel that PoW fundamentally unbalanced the already-unbalanced system?

>>52294264
Yeah because half of Pathfinder players think that Deadly Agility is broken.

I mean, I'd be open to tacking on a +6 base attack requirement, but then you have the other frothing retards who think it should be free because "muh martial balance" which means fluffing up martials to do the same insane shit that Pathfinder casters do.

Can someone explain to me Innate Bonus Progression so I can finish up my Hell's Rebels application?

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Are polearms good? How good are they compared to greatswords and other two-handed weapons?

>>52294272
I play 5e for my normal group. I'll start playing 5e with /tg/ when /5eg/ starts hosting thinly veiled fetish games, thank you very much.

>>52294290
Pathfinder is only as unbalanced as Modern MTG is

>>52294272
My group got bored with 5e.

>>52294293

I kinda like how SoM is suggesting handling it, where you can grab the weapon finesse talent and get a damage boost if you use dex to attack but strength to damage. It worked OK for the Vigilante, as I recall.

I've been kind of interested in how PoW seems to make dexterity builds much stronger but looking over SoM it looks like dex characters get BTFO by strength characters.

>>52294296
Reach is your friend. Never play a character without a reach option. The real memes start when you play an Aberrant bloodrager, cast Elongated arms and Enlarge person with a reach weapon at level 4.

>>52294272
Because that small set of options is still bigger than the ones in 5e.

Like it's a shitty system, but 5e is just fucking boring to build and play in.

>>52294293
It IS. Slightly. In some cases.
The issue is that Weapon Finesse/Deadly Agility versus Prodigious TWF/Double Slice results in the Dex build being plain BETTER, as they get their attack/damage stat to initiative and armor class.

I mean, maybe that's not broken. I'm just salty about the only option for swole builds being Brutal Slayer.

>>52294296

They're fine! Greatswords are technically better, but only by 1-2 damage per hit which is honestly worthless in the scheme of things.

Grab that bardiche and have fun!

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>Tetsubo is exotic
Why? it's just a club!

>>52294379
You need to use a whip with lunge too.

>>52294294
Aaaaahhhh, help!

>>52294379
>play a reach character
>enemies get within melee range
>suddenly you're just some faggot getting fucking dunked on.
Reach is a meme. Flexibility is where it's at.

How many disciplines do you think should an initiator be using? Do you usually stick to one, maybe two or three, or do you spread out your choices to grab bits from any useful discipline you have available?

>>52294403
Because it's Japanese, anon. How the hell are you supposed to know how to use a weapon if the instructions are in another language?

>>52294407
so like... wearing gauntlets?

>>52294406

Innate Bonus Progression are innate abilities you get as you level up.

For example, it says Resistance +1 at level 2? When you hit level 2 you get a +1 to all your saves.

>>52294411
I usually take whatever's the most thematically appropriate for the kind of fighting style I want. But then, I tend to pick classes and disciplines based on what kind of fighting game character I want to emulate.

>>52294272
There's still more toys here than in 5e, even after you strip away all the garbage filler.

>>52294411
I generally run three or four, sometimes five if I feel like going all in on versatility (Although it's a pain to keep all disciplines being able to grab the higher level maneuvers)
A couple time's I've grabbed only enough Scarlet Throne maneuvers to get Sanguine Perseverance, then dropped the discipline afterwards.

>>52294294
>>52294406
>>52294428
Dont you mean Automatic

>>52294435

>Emulating fighting game characters

Get out.

Reeee.

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>>52294435
>based on what kind of fighting game character I want to emulate
My compatriot of excellent taste

>>52294469
My compatriot of inferior taste

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>>52294504
No love for BlazBlu?

>>52294427

>"Look at that gaijin falling over himself, Daisuke."
>"What a moron. Don't they teach men to hit things with metal sticks in doofy-white-guy-land?"

>>52294564
I feel like this is a bamboozle...

>>52294559
No! Guilty Gear!

>>52294609

Guilty Gear is shiiiiiiiiit

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>>52294559
Not really payed any attention to Discount Guilty Gear, but some of the designs did look neat and it has great music so I can't hate it. Maybe I'll get around to actually trying one of the games someday, but not today.

>>52294616
Get your shit taste out of here.

Is makeup expensive?

>>52294272
1) Bounded accuracy is a trap option. You can go this far, no farther, ever. Except it's a lie when you get into magic of course.

2) PF CR is passable, especially if you know about Monster Roles (most people here don't). 5ed CR makes 3.5 CR look like a sustainable idea, and everyone knows it was a bad, bad, bad joke (see 18th level wizard with 9th level spells at CR 11 - you're supposed to fight that with 9th level characters? Sure.)

3) You can only play until 20th level. No you can't go further. Bounded Accuracy and the lack of information on how to actually create CR appropriate (see joke above) monsters is not public yet. You may as well start over.

4) "It's balanced" is a bigger lie than it is in PF. At least PF has finally moved on to admitting tier 3 is where it's best at and almost everything since Advanced Class Guide has emphasized this fact, including newer archetypes.

5) WotC has consistently fucked up every game they've worked on, starting with 3.0 and never ending. They have had to fire and hire and fire again just about everyone who they wanted to work for them because they fucked up shit worse than it already was.

6) I like PF. I don't like 5ed. Pretty much the only reason I need, but you were being pedantic and kind of a dick.

>>52294637

Depends on the makeup.

Are you going for Witcher 3, or Mass Effect Andromeda?

>>52294564
If this is real I'll be disappointed that I only went 2/3 on guesses.

>>52294454
>>52294428
I mean Innate:
>http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/unchained/magic/innateItemBonuses.html

it seems like I get some kind of virtual money to buy things with?

>>52294403
It's a club that weigh 10 pounds and is 6' long. That requires a little more than just strength to use it effectively if you don't want your guts spilled by someone with a short sword stepping inside your reach.

>>52294662

In what terms?

I prefer Witcher 3.

>>52294665

It was a BAMBOOZLE by someone who might be in CAHOOTS with the DM!

>>52294670
Basically, yes. You select the item that suits the slot, and when you buy the item, you also get the associated bonus that the protective version of that item normally gives. I.E. if you buy a ring of Spell Storing, you also get the power of a Ring of Deflection as an innate bonus to that ring without paying actual cost for a ring of deflection of the appropriate wealth level. Shoulder slot items grant resistance, and bracers can grant armor bonus, and amulets grant natural armor bonuses, while belts and headbands give enhancements to stats.

>>52294703

I'd say that would be 5-20 gp worth of makeup.

>>52294752
They wire tapped the GM's home! That's how they already know!

>Lysander
>Maice
>Cashmere
>Gloriana

Got the guy, the femdom, the innocent slut, and the bimbo

If there are no surprises, this is going to be the party to PLD

Calling it now.

>>52294768
That's really strange. Ok I'll see if I can figure it out.

>>52294768
Wait what? Then why does it have a price increase listed along with it?
I think even you're misinterpreting these rules.

>>52294648
>5) WotC has consistently fucked up every game they've worked on, starting with 3.0 and never ending.

Hey, 4e was a good game.

>>52294787

I don't know, Sigmund's got the tough tracker shtick for a campaign about monster hunting.

>>52294827
>4e
I remember when /tg/ used to call it "DnD: We Want the WoW Money"

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>>52294850
Yes, well.

Times change.

>>52294787
That's what I expect the PLD party to be too, it's the obvious choice whether I like it or not.

But it's too obvious, I'm expecting some kind of surprise.

>>52294752
Asked on Discord and yes, that was a ruse.

>>52294850
Not "D&D: We Are Honest For Once And Actually Care About Coherent game Design"?

>>52294845
>a campaign about monster humping.
Fix'd it for you.

>>52294294
>>52294294
Don't worry, the deadline is only for the basic concept, the sheets don't need to completed. The page is pretty descriptive but I fucked it up the first time I read it so I'll give a casual summary.

When an item is over a certain value threshold, you add X to its value as listed on the table and add a bonus to it based on its slot. I personally am running a house-rule whereby you can just buy the stat boost without buying the item to go with it, adding on the cost of an actual item on later.

Let's say I wanna buy a Robe of Useful Items, 7000gp. It's a body slot item which means it enhances physical ability scores. It's in the 4,000gp to 9,999gp range so it's +2 to a physical ability score and adds 4000gp to the price. The item's total value is 13,000gp.

Now, let's say you only have 6000gp and you really want that ability score boost now but can't afford the item. Instead I'm allowing you to spend 4000gp to get the +2 physical ability score bonus, and then upgrade it to the Robe of Useful Items letter with 7000gp.

It's a little clunky, I might revise it before I actually run. I apologise to anyone that I explained this to incorrectly before.

>>52294787
Bon-bon, not Gloriana.

>>52294928
Can someone explain this Bon-Bon meme to me?

>>52294955
It's not a meme, Bon-bon is just a genuinely great character. I mean it with absolutely no memes at all. It's my favourite character out of the bunch, and even I applied.

>>52294955
It's no meme, she's just really hit or miss. Either everything about her appeals to you, or none of it does. She either comes off as cute and endearing, or creepy and/or cliched.

I like her.

>>52294827
>>52294850
You know what they took from WoW? Constant patches to keep the goddamn game balanced.

Friggin' wish Paizo did that instead of shitting on concepts that don't fit their VISION.

>>52294981
>>52294969
>>52294955
Bon-Bon is clown/5.

>>52295011

Puella! Puella! Can you review the new apps?

>>52295011
So what you're telling me is that Panda Liberation Decision is set in the same universe as Vorestation

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Why have you not applied to Weird Wild West game yet? We've got a grumpy catboy gunslinger and a snake oil saleswoman!

>>52294397
Yeah, it makes me somewhat annoyed as well. I've been tempted to make Brutal Slayer's whole "Fuck DEX!" shtick part of the Barbarian, Kineticist, and Fighter (but with Constitution instead of STR), but that's a pipedream.

>>52294827
I have no qualms about 4e.

I just prefer 3.5e

>>52294969
>>52294981
>>52295011
I was... Not expecting this level of positive response for my silly little jester character. You all are great people.

>>52294909
Deadline is ~90 minutes from now, right?

>>52295044
Doesn't interest me and probably won't get along with the GM.

>>52295044
>Why have you not applied to Weird Wild West game yet?
I already told you why.

>>52295046

I want to honk her honkers and make her flower squirt!

>>52295044
Because I'm thinking about running a different game of my own, once /pfg/ has cooled off and I find a job.

Rolled 11 (1d11)

>>52295029
Doing Drummond Stathman first, but they're on the list! After that is...

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>>52295103
Sigmund Caine! And then we'll see!

>>52295103
I was hoping to see Sigmund or Vier done early so this is nice. Wanted to see the rating on the more grim males.

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>>52295077
What no jokes about cream pie?

Do you guys think there will be any last minute applications for Hell's Rebels?

>>52295065
100 minutes, but yes.
>>52295132
DHB posted his availability, but not a character, I'm wondering if he's waiting until the last second.

>>52294928
Except Vult finds her creepy

>>52295132
Money on 4-5 people shitposting applications 5 minutes before the deadline.

>>52295132
Most games have some last hour addition, I think there're people who just wait for the last minute to post their sheet after polishing it.

>>52294403

Currently using a Tetsubo for fun in the AP my group is running. It can be a lot of fun when you one-shot something with the occasional x4 crit, although sometimes it irks my GM and the rest of the table when I randomly solo centerpiece after centerpiece because my rolls happen to be on fire that session.

That said, some of the other players are considering picking up the Butterfly's Sting feat, and at that point I fear it's gonna push over into annoying gimmick territory and shred my DM's last bit of sanity.

>>52295157
That's more an issue with character art more so than the character I think.

>>52295178
Probably

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>>52295103
>>52295117
>the agony of waiting for your number to be drawn

>>52294768
>>52294802
>>52294819
See: >>52294909

>>52294787
Maice being taken seriously seems absurd. You can't rape the rapist.

>>52295117
Who's already been done anyways?

>>52295253
No anon, it's all about raping the rapist. Take her down a peg, show her she's not so tough. Also A-grade shipping material with other PCs.

Are all blades that aren't classified as light blades heavy blades?

>>52295253
Breaking doms is a god tier fetish

And maybe Vult wants to recieve a little. This is the guy who applied as a trap assassin to fluffy2. He was practically begging to have his boypussy pounded

>>52295291
Bayonets are blades and are within the Close weapon group

>>52295291
What is a "blade"? A slashing weapon? Because if so, no, there are also axes.

Fuck you /pfg/. I need a Numeria dump. I have all the core. What kinda 3pp support is out there?

>>52295293
I don't think any of the current characters could dom Maice though.

You know what to do anon.

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>>52295255
>Who's already been done anyways?

Perseus Aphellis and Andromeda (app withdrawn)
Taris Masa (app heavily rewritten)
Ricard Vanborgh (now Richard Van Borgh, heavily rewritten)
Keli Dobreani
Lysander of the South (rewritten)
Sage
Sonja (heavily rewritten)
Maice Tarot (rewritten)
Cashmere Downefyren (changes in the works)
Lillian Morina (afk)
Bon Bon

Also, potential backstories.

I thought I'd have got more done but work is hellish at the moment.

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>>52295340
Here's a numerian cum dumpster

>>52295327
Fuck if I know, I'm just trying to figure out what heavy and light blades mean for PoW disciplines favored weapons.

>>52295293
>boypussy
This has to be the first time I've actually seen this spelled like a real word after months of "thicc", "fuccboi", and "boipucci"

>>52295391
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/fighter/#Weapon_Training_Ex
That's what they mean.

>>52295391
Look at the Fighter's weapon training groups.

>>52295403
>>52295408
Bless, anons.

>>52295372
A lot of people kept calling Ricard "Richard", so I decided to roll with it.

>>52295380
Top tier taste.

>>52295395
I want to RAM you in the bee PC anon.

Which are the most badass monsters?

>>52295455
Vilderavn.

>>52295455

This >>52295466 , the only monster that goes so balls deep into the edge that it becomes cool again.

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>>52295395
>boipucci
>pucci

Can Timely Inspiration work on craft checks?

>>52295514
Spiral staircase!

>>52294879
Say what you want about the expansion, but I loved this trailer. I watched it like an autist so many times.

>>52295530
KABUTOMUSHI

>>52295380
Less than helpful, anon. Please do better.

>>52295455
Vilderavns are so goddamn edgy that they just

They cross the limit of the the edge-o-meter and come out back to being cool. Let's cross off the list

>Raven AND WOLF
>They give edgy names to their swords
>They wear full-plate armor
>They look like Artorias
>They're neutral evil Fey
>They're massive dicks who literally eat the hearts of people they kill
>They were expressly created in order to fuck over humans

Holy fuck they're so cool.

>>52295579
Vilderavns Harbinger BBEG

>>52295607
I'm stealing this

>>52295579
Soul of the Blood of the Wolf

>>52295615
DA DA DA DA DA, DADADADA
https://youtu.be/S7bkdvAVdIM

>>52295579
>>52295455


They also are an actual challenge to fight, especially for its CR.

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How does one make Ameiko a warlord? not the class, the actual profession?

>>52295651
Yo I wanna fuck that.

>>52295651

She fails to retake the Sakura Throne, and chooses to instead unite what Samurai clans are loyal to her to reconquer the Empire.

>>52295715
After all, the Imperial families don't need to sit on the throne, simply to keep the Five Storms away from it.

>>52295651
She undergoes training montages all the way to Minkai, using her Aristocrat weapon proficiencies to train with each of the PCs.

Starts learning basic tactics by suggesting plans and tactics to the PCs, listening carefully to their ideas, figuring out what works for what situation.

Coordinates the rest of the caravan's defenses and guards while the PCs handle the actual business of monster fighting.

Uses a couple ability increases and a headband to buy off her Wisdom penalty.

Invests in some armor and weapons that are better suited to a straight fight rather than fencing.

>>52295651
>>52295669
>>52295715
>>52295739

> Sengoku-Jidai erupts in Minkai.

So who ends up being Nobunaga?

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>>52295579
Do they give strange names to their equipment?

>>52295780
I think the idea is that the Jade Regent is Nobunaga by default, at least in thematic terms.

>>52295794
They're SUPER chuuni and edgy about their weapons, so I'd say yes.

I think one of the examples was called "Lifedrinker" or something.

>>52295780

Who's the Rance?

>>52295837
And who's the Reset's mother?

>>52295834

Lifedrinker is a great name for a sword, so is Heartsbane!

How do I get my GM to include certain enemies without ever stating that I'd like him to include them in the game? For example, have you ever seen a GM include Cyclops?

>>52294264
A little bit.

For some reason pfg seems to be under the impression that a summoner needs to be chained for initiators and psionic classes to be able to keep up.

>>52295857
... I'd like to see a group that puns those things up.
>This is Hearthsbane, Destroyer of Foyers!
>Our captain's mighty sword, Lifedrunker!

>>52295891

Ask for certain regions to get included in the campaign.

>I want to visit something like Greece

>>52295906
*unchained

>>52295908
>See, I requested a blood groove but the job was just rushed. All the blood just clumps up and suddenly the sword is uneven and I can barely swing it without tripping.

>>52295651

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qliIAP_OGm4

What's the weapon enchantment that sounds the most like a fantasy metal band?

+1 Unholy Raging Bloodsong is my pick

>>52295977

Insanity Shotgun

>>52295044
Whats the point if I can't have a turbo plasma rifle?

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>>52295780
>>52295795

Nobunaga is Nobunaga. I think you can just lift him directly from earth and pop him right into Minkai. Like Someone tries summon a powerful ally from a distant star to aid their conquest of Minkai... and they get Nobunaga.

Why does the "To Protest the Government" reason for protest in Hell's Rebels give a bonus to Bluff and Intimidate?
If you want to make your voice heard you have to lie about what you're saying?
Intimidate might be appropriate for moving people into action. But bluff over diplomacy makes no sense to me here.

>>52296068
To be fair, that's entirely possible considering how the cosmology of Golarion works.

Considering he was assassinated even, a Wish could potentially bring him back alive and well!

>>52295977
Holy Pistol
Merciful Katana

>>52296068
And it ends up being the Drifters version of Nobunaga

>>52296085
Assumedly because you're going to have to hide your identity, lie about being there or else Thrune are going to come to your house and set you the fuck on fire.

>>52296068

Phoenix best spirit, but Saoirse bestest!

>>52296101

I thought he committed seppuku before his assassins got to him?

>>52295044
I want to see play Doctor with Daphne!

>>52296101

Couldn't we also meet Hitler in Reign of Winter?

Why isn't Paizo making an AP about Nazi superscience punching a whole through reality based on the occultist vapors left by the RoW crew, goose-stepping into Golarion to use Literal Magic to win the war?

>>52296155
Same difference, his death wasn't natural, so if he was convinced he could be brought back to life.

>>52296202
I'm not actually sure anything could stop that, but yes.

>>52296202
Because in Golarion's timeline the Nazi party isn't a thing yet. Hitler is also not yet relevant. The Beer Hall incident that put him in prison to write Mein Kamf is next year.

>>52296202
RoW's 1918, Hitler isn't important yet.

>>52296202
You could meet Hitler, but he was active mostly in the 1940s while RoW takes place around 1920

>>52296006
Well, to be fair, plasma damage is complete shit in pathfinder.

You take the weapon's damage, and split it in two. Half of it fire, Half of it electrical. each of the halves goes against hardness and its own resistances/immunities separately, so by the time you can afford even the cheapest plasma weapon it basically does nothing to anyone or anything, and then you'll start running into outsiders who shrug off even more or possibly heal from the stuff instead.

Half an hour till the deadline. They do one last rundown of Hell's Rebels characters. Someone post a list.

I'm thinking of making my own campaign traits for a game.

How should the payoff for them work? Is it enough to just tie the PCs to the game and ensure that they won't want to just go "fuck this imma be a pirate"? Should the trait have a specific scene tied into it? Or should it keep having its payoff all the way to the end, only really getting resolved at the climax of the campaign?

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How busted would a "True Admixture" sphere advanced talent that converts effects from Half X Half Y damage to X and Y damage?

>>52296389

So making it 4e multi-element rather than 3.5? Not very.

>>52296389
>How busted would a "True Admixture" sphere advanced talent that converts effects from Half X Half Y damage to X and Y damage?

It effectively doubles damage, which is a bit better than a maximize meta-magic feat. If it cost a few spell points, it would be a reasonable include. Wouldn't need to be advanced though.

>>52296389
Keep in mind, that change doesn't make your blaster deal more damage, just makes it damage more consistently. If your GM really needs to shut you down then they can just give it resistance/immunity to both energy types.

>>52296464
Or maybe I'm misunderstanding, not sure if it's doubling damage or just changing the type from "Half Fire, Half Electricity," to "Fire and Electricity."

>>52296464
>It effectively doubles damage,
What? I feel like you misread or misunderstand how admixture works.

Say you combine an Ice and Fire blast

Regular admixture would make the damage half ice and half fire. Counted separately.

This admixture would make the attack count as both fire and ice.

>>52296483
Well, "admixture" in 3.5 was a metamagic that added the new type's damage to your old one. So an admixture style feat would change, say, a 6d6 plasma hit into 6d6 fire AND 6d6 electricity.

What you are thinking of more likely is just changing "half x half y" into "x AND y", like how a morningstar is b AND p.

>>52296336
* - My pick for the final team
^ - incomplete or incompatible

Alexa Jones - Because Alex Jones is a real person! Get it? It's funny!

Metlee* - Tiefling free captain just trying to get her ship back

Winston* - A reasonable man in unreasonable times.

Ji Mahn - It sounds like G-man, which makes it funny.

Rhea - A wandering barbarian searching for a lost friend, caught up in events far beyond her control.

Jacques - He's coming out of retirement for one last job...

Noel/Scarlet* - A nobleman with unexplained ties to a local family; and one of Kintargo's up and coming starlets.

Virius - "Virius is a boring man"

Reina - A doggo looking for her lost master. Duo app with Var.

Var - An orphan that's holding fast to the people he's got.

Rain - an undine bard looking for a big break; has a penchant for cross-dressing.

Hana* - Gamer Girl overcompensating for her personal failings.

Varashk - Communist Lizard Hipster. Used to be Batman.

Estelle* - Doggo memes, maid memes, smol memes, and punch girl memes all in one. Despite that, not half-bad.

Sophia* - Opparan Noble Catgirl Warlord. Used to be an Aasimar, which made much more sense.

Gilbert - Horc Alchemist and proprietor of the worst bar in Kintargo.

Katrana^ - Is a Sorcerer, despite the guidelines.

Laurentius - If Starman was an Angel.

Ichabod - DHB's most depressing character yet.

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>>52295651

You just want Nobushi to be a thing.

>>52296555
I was referring to the Spheres of Power admixture talent, not 3.5.

>>52296573

Man, that art just makes killing Nobushi in droves a little awkward.

>>52296568
>Ichabod - DHB's most depressing character yet.
Shit what'd he do this time?

>>52295651
Run Jade Regent as an evil campaign.

>>52296573
YO I WANNA FUCK THAT TOO

>>52296484
Wow, i"m dumb.

Why would anyone want this, incidentally?

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>>52296622
>>52296591

S-sonata ni shi o

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>>52296640

And I give you love!

>>52296636
Flavor. Getting around resistances while still maintaining something a theme. The fact that if you use admixture to mix up elements as opposed to just add riders by fusing the same element, you're making your blasts actively weaker and more resistible with no real benefit.

>>52296640
Cute Japanese girls are great! Especially if I can make 'em blush like that! C'mon over here, yer gettin' a hug!

>>52296691

Good thing (Jade Regent spoilers) there's a tall, busty Samurai woman in Book 4 whose stoicism masks an incredibly girlish personality!

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>>52296568
>Ichabod - DHB's most depressing character yet.
More depressing than the cannibal?

>>52296716
Yo I wanna play Jade Regent now.

As a Desperado Warlord VMC Bard who woos the ladies by singing

So anon what are you going to do if you don't get into PLD

>>52296754
Hope I get into the game after that.

>>52296726

Apparenetly, Ichabod was always in the shadow of his overachieving sister, who died when he was 14 and drove Ichabod's dad into deep depression. Eventually, his dad drove up a huge gambling debt, and tried to sell his son into sexual slavery to repay it. The slaver, disgusted at this, beat his dad down and gave Ichabod a knife, telling him to kill his dad.

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>>52296573
>not wanting a Raider buddy to throw people off cliffs with

Webm only barely related.

>>52296754
Start shitposting about why there aren't any other dark fantasy games running

>>52296751
But you just applied as one in WWW!

>>52296751

Here's another detail you might like.

All the Tien ladies want to kiss the blonde men.

>>52296768
That uuh, doesn't seem very hip.

>>52296768
Jesus christ.

Why is he even in Hell's Rebels if he's a slave?

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I expected nothing less.

>>52296779
I'm not expecting to get into WWW though! I have my own stuff to work on- I just submitted Ashley for fun! The class and concept is a fun idea though!

>>52296786
So you're saying if I'm a blond cowboy with a guitar I can get all the ladies? Sign me up!

>>52296817
What

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>>52296817
What the fuck, this better be some random normie's bullshit and not who I think it is.

>>52296814

He worked as a mercenary with the slaver for some years, until one day he had a dream where his sister appeared to him alive and well.

When he woke up, his slaver-dad was gone and left a brief note about something or other, and knowing he had no family left followed the slaver-dad's trail before seeing it led to Kintargo, his home.

>>52296828
2hu's Hell's Rebel app.
>>52296842
It is who you think it is.

>>52296768
>sell his son into sexual slavery
No where was it implied it was sexual slavery, just regular slavery probably

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>>52296828
>>52296842
It's exactly who you think it is.

>>52296828
>>52296842
The "wolfboy" is a "Psychopomp-descended (reflavored tiefling) gnome".

>>52296818

Yup yup! Blonde Andoren cowboy wandering into Tian Xia will get *all* the smooches, and probably a little bit more considering what happens in that book.

>>52296817
>>52296876

Jesus wept.

>>52296883
Fuck yeah! I'm joining the next Jade Regent game that comes up!

Dwohoho, what sort of "little more" will be happening~?

>>52296903
DHB and 2hu both did absolute last minute apps. ReviewAnon. They both look shit. Put them head to head.

REVIEW BATTLE!

>>52296768
Isn't that how Guts gets his start?

>>52296716
Who?

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>>52296817
>>52296876

>>52296876
Do people do this for fun? Are they genuine? How can a person lack so much self-awareness?

>>52296942
Literally autism.

>>52296876
The worst part is that there's actually a perfectly serviceable race of evil outsiders sourced from psychopomps, the Sahkil.

Okay, that's not even close to the worst part.

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>>52296817
>>52296876
>>52296911

>>52296942
He was just so ironic he blew it out of the ballpark and way over our heads.

>>52296942
Legitimate, actual autism.

>>52296928
It's book 5, she's a monk/paladin, and she's barely more than a footnote. You can basically summoner her Dark Souls-style to one fight later, but only if you pick up on an obtuse "clue" and that's literally it.

Also you never see any of her from the neck down, and she's wearing what's basically a nun's habit, so yeah, "busty" is just wishful thinking.

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>>52296817
>>52296876
>>52296911
>>52296959

"I do not know what happened; maybe the soul-genes finally struck gold. Whatever the case, this second kid, Serigala, was born as an honest-to-Pharasma, psychopomp-descended gnome. With wolf ears and a wolf tail!"
Oh god I'm dying here

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>>52297007

>>52296942
Actual autism.

GM also has autism. Probably explains a few things.

>>52296689
Actually, the benefit of combining different blast type groups is combining the riders.

>>52297007
>maybe brother deserves to be a cripple

MARCHE GET OUT REEEEEEEE

>>52296922
DHB wins.

His app is depressing, but at least it's readable.

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So, I was tempted to go through a big song and dance, a drumroll, announce everyone one by one but instead I will just do this shit.

Group A: The Fancy Party
Serigala Aulorian, Estelle, Lady Sophia Langen Ocellio and Hana la Chantalle

And while you froth over those choices...

Group B: Over The Edge
Reina Steelheart, Laurentius Balisse, Noel Aulamaxa/Scarlet Dominica, Alexa Jones, and Winston Ivarine Sharpe III / The Arcane Avenger

And because I feel it needs to be done

Honourable Mentions
Meltee, Katrana and Gilbert

If anyone is curious as to the reasoning behind my choices, or how many maids 2hu has pointing guns at the back of my head right now to ensure my cooperation, feel free to ask.

>>52296751
Desperado, why don't you come to your senses? You've been out laying fences for so long now.

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>>52296817
>>52296876
>>52296911
>>52296959
>>52297007

Mother of god how did I miss his character art

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>Cringe
>Cringe
>Oh boy guys come look at this thing I don't like
>Let's all go pick on the autistic person

You people are fucking pathetic.

>>52297078
To anyone else in group A, I am so, so sorry.

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>>52297091
>expecting decency on 4chan

>>52296817
>>52296876
AHAHAHAHAHAHA OH GOD
Oh my god you
HAHAHAHA
You guys have to play with this
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>52297083
Oh you're a hard one
I know you've got your reasons~
These things that are pleasin' you
Can hurt you somehow

>>52297088
This is so dumb it wraps back around to hilarious.

>>52297091
>pick on the autistic person
2hu is a bad player, worse person, and fucking terrible writer. You're not defending a victim, you're shilling an asshole.

>>52297078
Group B looks better, nothing to do with 2hu, Winston And Noel are top apps

>>52297078
Awww, Metlee and Gilbert didn't get in?

>>52294787
I'd play it

>>52297091
>make High Trap-Queen Mary Sue
>expect people to like it
No.

What's the best place in Golarion for a cowboy to come from?

Guns in particular are optional, but the cultural aspect of large stretches of semi-pacified wilderness and an existant but overstrained central government should be there.

>>52297140
I'm not saying people have to like it, but going HEY GUYS THIS PERSON HAS TROUBLE WRITING THINGS GOOD, LAUGH AT THEM is fucking pathetic.

>>52297154
Alkenstar.

It's even got enforced no-magic with its Wastelands.

>>52297078
No character sheet from 2hu, I see. I'm guessing he won't required to post one. I'm also guessing he's using a previous version of Avowed.

So Group A, how do you feel about being able to sit back and let one player handle your entire game?

>>52297158
We don't care that it's poorly written we care that it's stupid.

>>52297078

Interesting. Didn't know there would be two groups, otherwise I would have revised my picks.

Congratulations to Group B and condolences to Group A.

>>52297158
I honestly kind of liking for taking something so dumb and presenting it entirely straightfaced.

It's like when a burly man dresses up in Sailor Moon cosplay without any shame.

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Sorry drinky-anon, didn't make it! Maybe next time.

>>52297078
Group A is never gonna make it out if book 1. They won't even get stuck ERPing or anything, they'll just waste all their time trying on dresses and doing each others hair

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>>52297158
>not laughing at stupid things

faggot

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>>52297194

>>52297088
God its everything we expected

>>52297200
That sounds cute! Cute!

>>52297192
He's using the most recent version of avowed, and he will be required to post a sheet before the first session.

Also everyone else in the group is pretty much as optimised as him.

>>52296876
>this got accepted into a game

THERE IS NO HOPE FOR MAN

>>52297192
Having asked both the GM on Discord AND 2hu on IRC, they are in fact using the newest version of the Avowed, with the heavily-nerfed skill clauses.

>>52297158
It's not like he's illiterate. It's like he wrote close to 2 thousand words of the most utterly ridiculous special snowflake backstory I've ever seen. It involves him being both a psychopomp usher (an outsider equal in rank to an empyreal lord) and a ruler of an entire Kellid kingdom.

>>52297078
>, or how many maids 2hu has pointing guns at the back of my head right now to ensure my cooperation,
How many? We need to know how big we should make the rescue party.

>>52297088
That's actually pretty cute.

>>52297091
>>52297158
>get guaranteed a slot in a game halfway through the app process
>write literally the exact shit people constantly complain about
>being surprised when people lose their shit

it's stupid, but like

>>52297231
The DM wants to spoon 2hu.

>>52297231
>>52297249
Consider that the DM is also autistic.

>>52297183
How much do they have in the way of small towns that need prairie justice, though?

Gonna be honest I would have loved to see DHB and 2hu in the same party. Especially with the characters they posted. Imagine the greentext.

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>>52297235
At least three, I keep seeing a glint outside my window that implies a sniper scope. They've already tidied two rooms in my house and I'm desperately afraid of what will happen when they find my extensive collection of maid based doujins.

>>52297231
THERE ARE STILL HEROES LEFT IN MAN

>>52297200
That sounds cute!
>>52297219
This guy gets it!

>>52297271
>>52297249
>>52297231
Consider, in addition, what Group A consists of.
Girly-girls or girly-boys, in dresses, with animal ears. And there's only 4 of them, compared to the 5 of the other group.

The GM purposefully quarantined all of those kinds of apps so they wouldn't bleed into the other game.

So, repeat after me, /pfg/: THANK YOU, for keeping everything else in their own little box, so they won't contaminate the rest.

... Did Sap Adept get nerfed? I thought it was +2 per SA dice, but the SRD says +1?

If you were running a game, how far removed from the line of succession would a prince/princess have to be for you accept them as a PC?

What about somebody who officially has a royal title but has no power to back it up, like exiled kings in historical Europe?

>>52297293
They've partied together. DHB shared his thoughts on the experience once.

>>52297312
Immediate heir is an excellent chance for hooks!

>>52297200
I'll try my best to make sure this doesn't happen.

>>52297303
Speaking of contamination! Let's talk about Perfectly Lacking Decency again!

>>52297338
can we not

>>52297329
And also a really bad thing unless you can explain why someone isn't trying to kidnap them every five seconds or why they're running off into dungeons full of demons, ghosts, and all kinds of nasty shit.

>>52297338
Puellanalysis will be around later tonight. Save your excitement for the shitposting then.

>>52297312
>prince-in-exile

I'd let my group roll a Vegeta, sure.

>>52297338
Why hasn't anyone applied with a fucking assassin yet?

>>52297338
Let's not.

>>52297312
Depends how well I know the player, obviously, but I'd definitely accept a royal from Brevoy or Ustalav where nobility really doesn't mean much. After that I'd recommend just playing a rich merchant instead. I mean, in Golarion, House Jeggare stradles the line, and I'd be fine with a Jeggare scion.

>>52297311
It's 1 per die rolled.

But Knockout Artist is another 1/die rolled. Were you perhaps forgetting that one?

>>52297312
Is there someone else in the line of succession that's got a better shot than you? Are they at risk of falling under any sort of peril over the journey? Is this peril coming from you?

Actually, that last one might make a neat plot thread.

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>>52297386
I went to check Nethys, and it says it's +2 per dice, so now I'm lost as fuck. I can only assume it did indeed nerfed because people bitched about it in PFS, which would be the ONLY place in which a rogue gimmick build based around nonlethal could end up being "too powerful".

>>52296959
That doesn't roll off the tongue very well. It's one of those names people won't be able to pronounce without being dragged off to the drunk tank.

>I DIDN'T HAVE A DROP! I'M JUST TRYING TO GET TO RAVOUNEL! IT'S RAVOUNEL!
>yeah yeah, come on old man, you can find your revellos in the morning.

>>52297352
Adventurous heirs are a classic staple. You hardly need any explanation for why they would, but went they wouldn't.

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>>52297428

>>52297428
Ravouneli ravouneli give me the forumuoli

>>52297357
Original Vegeta, or Abridged Vegeta?

>>52297450
Well now we know where the drunk tank is.

Is there the concept of the Estates anywhere in Golarion? Clergy, nobility, peasantry?

>>52297243
I wouldn't mind a daughter like that.

...too bad it's a dude.

>>52297078
Reina here. Do to some very extreme overlap with the other Empericist, I will be heavily modifying my sheet. I'm on mobile, but if any of the other players are here, I'm accepting requests for what role you want me to fill.

>>52297463
Either's fine.

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Hey ReviewAnon, would you mind reviewing Katrana now that the selection is over? I doubt I'll ever use her for anything now, but I'd still like to know how I could improve in the future.

>>52297078
>Alexa jones actually gets in

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


WE'RE BREAKING THE CONDITIONING

AHHHHHHHHH

>gets into a really hyped game by sheer luck
>learns to hate character, because reasons
>doesn't want to say anything, so just applies to other games with better characters
>none of them get accepted
>friend tells me "hey, at least you're in _____!"

yep, i suuuuure am.

>>52297078
0/3 on pfg games. Ah well.

>>52297604
Who are you playing?

>>52297604
There's a Friday of the Jade Regent player here if I ever heard one.

>>52296912

You know exactly what I'm talking about! The womenfolk in that city know of the seasonal glut of tough Ulfen stock that come into town every summer, and you're the only hot blonde foreigner they're going to see for months.

>>52297629
delet this

>>52297654
Dwohiho! This I can work with!

>>52296928

It's the bodyguard of the Prince in Book 4.

Hot new fluff rewrites/explanations

'Cus I just got asked about it, I'll clarify a few things

Nightwalkers are like 1/1000 born, generally created by one of the gods. The True Gods are a bit busy, that's why there's so few. If a False God made a nightwalker, they did it with an ulterior motive. But, Nightwalkers are really hard to kill, so infant mortality isn't an issue. Most villages have a Nightwalker in their midst, whether they realize it or not. Cities have plenty, but typically are contracted, hidden, or busy. That is, if they even realize they're a Nightwalker.

A single monster can be fended off by a human who knows how to fight, and has a moonsilver weapon. This is mostly because near-immortal monsters have no good reason to fight the one thing that can kill them. Tome Manifestations are another matter, they take a party of Nightwalkers, all with Moonsilver. Or a small army without.

>>52297680
Make sure you get this up on the page tooooo

>>52297281
>How much do they have in the way of small towns that need prairie justice, though?

You're thinking of Molthune and Andoren, the former having a lot of grasslands and cattle herds, and the latter being fuckin' America.

>>52297687
I copied it from the setting thread m8

SO, here's the breakdown of the Hell's Rebels parties.

PARTY 1
>Serigala Aulorian (Gnomish-Tiefling Avowed 4/Stalker (Vigilante) 1)
>Estelle (Blinkling Medic (Sanguinist) 3/Mystic (Aurora Soul) 2)
>Lady Sophia Langen Ocellio (Lion-Bakeneko-Catfolk Warlord 5)
>Hana la Chantalle (Fey Human Bard (Resonant Song, Lotus Geisha) 4/Warlord (Privateer) 1)

PARTY 2
>Reina Steelheart (Wolfish-Tiefling Warder (Bushi, Hawkguard) 2/Investigator (Empiricist, Psyforensic) 3)
>Laurentius Balisse (LITERAL ANGEL Aasimar Henshin Hero (Driven Disciple) 5)
>Noel Aulamaxa / Scarlet Dominica (Human Bard (Rubato) 2/Vigilante (Outrageous Lyricist) 3)
>Alexa Jones (Human Avowed 5)
>Winston Ivarine Sharpe III / The Arcane Avenger (Human Investigator (Empricist) 2/Vigilante (Warlock) 3)

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>>52297485
>Is there the concept of the Estates anywhere in Golarion?

>Paizo
>Understanding the Estates

>Laughing_Burghers.gif

>>52297625
it's a /pfg/ game and I don't want to say anything, but their name starts with an A

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How's it goin' tonight you cheeky shites?

Best strategy against single enemies who have magic immunity to all spells that allow SR?

>>52297752
Ah. I think I follow. The ranger forgotten in midst of lesbians and trap lust.

>>52297774
Pretty good. How's it feel to be a terrible employee?

>>52297752
I can think of three games that might apply to. Hope it's not any of them, I was hoping everybody could have fun if they got picked.

>>52297752
It starts with an A? Is it... Aranha? I'm dying for details 'ere, anon!

>>52297782
Summon a bunch of monsters on 'em

>>52297774
I'm sitting around helping my RoW players figure out what they want to play before I get everything set up for the actual game.

>>52297782
So Golems? Grease, create pit, Acid Pit, things that don't allow saves and slow it down so you can ping it with snowballs from range.

I, for one, rather enjoyedI 2hu's backstory. It was not stellar by any means, but it was good enough and fun in that silly way. Like, take a weird premise and make something out of it. Maybe that's because I generally like unusual characters and have a very high tolerance for Mary Sues and animu bullshit. Hell, my own character is a descendant of halflings, blinkdgos and fey. She has wild magic powers allowing her to control life, death and elements, she is protected by both light (animus) and darkness (blinkling racial trait) and she is also a dog girl maid. Sadly, all this chuuni potential will be probably left underutilized.

I am also kinda sad Metlee didn't make it in.

>>52297546
How was that "super female vitality" salve one of Pathfinder's devs homebrewed called? Alexa should sell it.

>>52297782
Buff the beatstick and let him kill it.
Use spells/powers/sphere abilities that don't even allow SR.

>>52297798
It could be Aster.

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>>52297788

Having a giggle? Delete this.

>>52297752
Arahna? Aster? Artemy? Alexa?

>>52297804
>How was that "super female vitality" salve one of Pathfinder's devs homebrewed called?

Mulibruous Tincture

>>52297788
Remove fox

Remove memedog

All shapeshifters MUST GO

>>52297817
>all these people will be badgered by their groups for details when secretly it was an elaborate anon ruse

>>52297812
Look on the bright side, you won't have to work for Lonjiku much longer.

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>>52287054
[sad trombone honks vanishing into the distance]

Next up, Drummond Stathman, which I only realised now was missing off my dice rolling list!

>village in bumfuck nowhere has a giant library of books and this kid learns all from book reading
>then everything changed when the merchant nation attacked
>Tome monster knocks out the kid and kills everyone, but then suddenly four nightwalkers pop out of the air and he helps them execute it
>he turns into a badass gun toting mageshooter monster hunter under their tution in a mysterious monastary and even manages to take all their books which weren't looted or turned into a monster cavern or anything with him
>but also he thinks monstergirls aren't bad so tries to redeem monstergirls and shoots them if they refuse to be good

I'm of two minds about this app; unsure whether it's so bad it's good, and it's so bad it's terrible. Of all the apps I've reviewed so far, this one seems like the most mary sue-like. Even including Sage, who's a pyromaniac buddha, Maice, perfect femdom queen bitch and Cashmere, top ranking of the magical academy due to her special clothing magic techniques.

I suspect that's because he's the only one to have assisted in attacking the tome monster, which to be fair isn't out of the possibility of happening, and possibly because he becomes an expert monster hunter and at the same time after everyone he cares about has been killed by monsters, he somehow thinks that they can be redeemed. They might be able to, but it just seems somewhat out of place that while being trained to kill monsters, he's also questioning it due to... reading too many books? It really jars.


THE GOOD: TOTALLY CUHRAZEE- wait, this is more grimdark than DMC.

>>52297841
Not this motherfucker.
If they've got a problem, they oughta just say so, nobody's gonna think less of them for saying they're not having fun, and if they say why, then the problem can just be fixed.

>>52295157

Vult is a hack.

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>>52295380
Robot thread?

I wonder how DHB feels, now being 0/12.

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>>52297852
THE BAD: Seriously feels too Mary Sue, especially compared with the rest of the apps. While settingswise a nightwalker can pretty easily go through monsters one at a time, him becoming a ruthless hunter doesn't feel like it'd be good for longevity, and the idealism in his personality doesn't seem to come from any single point. Where's all this goodwill towards monsterkind coming from? Perhaps there was a chance meeting of a monster that didn't attack? Perhaps he read a particular book? So far I'm not seeing where this gunman's last chance philosophy is coming from.

Other than that, seriously, where did the 4 nightwalkers come from? Were they just picking berries in the bushes and then their nightwalker senses started tingling or something? For that matter, how exactly did a tiny village get a huge library? How did it get a mage? Neither of those things are likely to be in a village to begin with.

>Appeal: 3/5 Virgil the Mageshooter.
>Backstory: 2/5
>Compatibility: 4/5 Ranged striker, debuffer, bit of face stuff. Can probably do ok in most groups. There may be some conflicts about seeing if sentient monsters can be let go, but at least that's interesting conflict.
>Setting accuracy: 3/5 Again, while there's monsters killing of hordes of people, the whole backstory of being in a nightwalker mercenary group doesn't sit well with me. Probably since he's apparently soloing enemies while the veterans are going out in groups of 4.
>Sexual potential: 4/5 Could easily be seduced, and that's going to work out great for everyone involved!

DEAD RELATIVES COUNT: EVERYONE. At least 2 parents.

>>52297900
Depressed i bet

>>52297900
Which character were they?

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>>52297900
He got into the Chinese Lisa game.

>>52297831
Ah yes. That and Anderos Salve for Super Male Vitality. Alexa should stock up on it.

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>>52297907

THINGS TO LOOK AT: I'd personally suggest making the village into a town, and that solves most problems. Why are the nightwalker squad here? Town was a source of replenishment. Why a library? Town would have one. Mage? Town.

If not a town, then perhaps not having the nightwalkers pop out of nowhere might be better. Perhaps Drummond knows he's outmatched but can't leave the monster alone so follows it, and attacks only during the battle. Other than that, he really needs a reason why he thinks monstergirls are redeemable. Put in something more than "he read too many books".

Next up, Sigmund Caine. Probably tomorrow.

>>52297934
You doing 1 every day? I think the DM is reviewing them soon so you might be cut off

>>52297799
>Acid Pit
This thing ends single-creature encounters. DC 20 reflex save on a golem works 4/5 times and you'll have at least 8 rounds for everyone to lob snowballs, orisions, etc at the thing until it dies. DC 30 climb check required on a creature with 0 skills and a +9 strength mod?

>>52298009
I'll see how many I can get through!

How can I become a shapeshifting master of darkness?

>>52298025
Incanter, darkness and alteration sphere. Throw in illusions too just because.

>>52298025
By taking the Time and Warp spheres, allowing you to TEAR OPEN A PORTAL AND SEND THE FOOOOOLISH SAMURAI WARRIOR INTO THE FUTURE, WHERE YOUR EVIL IS LAAAAAAWWWW

>>52298025
Get a voice modulator

>>52298041
Time Sphere doesn't actually let you jump forward and back in time because that would be fucking busted.

>>52298080
Does it have any effects similar to Temporal Stasis?