Hours Heresy General /hhg/

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First for the ninth.

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2nd for the 12th.

>>52265940
I just want to shoot another thanks to the anon who gave us HH7: Inferno. I was looking online for a really high quality version of the OP pic, and the one in the .pdf is essentially the best out there.

Anyone have any recommendations on what colours you'd use to get that scheme down on your models? I'm not that good at judging it by eye.

>>52265311
>>52265499
I see. And how long would it take to build up a force like that compared to something like 40k? I can imagine that its a bit more expensive than other games, unless you use recasts.

Like, say I wanted to build a up a force, and introduce it to others who play 40k, or just use my army against 40k armies straight up. How long would it take to do that? Currently, I am interested in the Night Lords as my legion of choice, loyalist if possible. I want to bring bloody justice upon the traitors.

>>52266142

Points in 30k tend to be higher than 40k in general, so getting to 3000 isn't quite as much effort although the extra cost of the models offsets that.

Really depends on what kind of list you want to run, try reading up on the Night Lords rules and some other tactical advice on them and map out what you may be interested in building.

30k tends to be fairly weak compared to 40k since it lacks formations and only has one force org chart allowed.

Loyalist night lords are totally allowed and all you'll miss are the named characters

>>52266142

3000 points in 30k is like 1250 or 1500 points in 40k. An army with like 1 primarch, 20 marines, 10 terminators, a big dread and some vehicles is already 3000.

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6th legion best legion also Raven Guard are alright I guess

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>>52266367

>>52266448
Their legion was stronger because of their small sizer but the warriors were the best. Even the Lexi states this

>>52266488
That's straight from Inferno my nigga. Sorry. Their bark was worse than their bite.

>>52266488
>the warriors were the best

When every legion has the best warriors, no one does. And your source for that is Lexicanum?

>>52266500
>>52266501
fuck off traitors reeeee

>>52266534

>implying only traitors hated the Space Wolves

every fucking Legion spazzed out because of what your moronic Primarch did on Prospero

>>52266553
He did what needed to be done. Even the Emperor said so to Malcador in privet, face it no one liked you Magnus

>tfw the Emperor orders you to kill your thunder legionary comrades but you let them go instead

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Trying to figure out an easy way of mounting the magnets to the arms and weapons in light of lacking the right sized drill bit.

>>52266612
That's my kind of Anon.

>>52266618
Exchange money, goods or services of equivalent worth for the right sized drill bit.

>>52266582
And as such, the Emperor, most powerful entity in the galaxy came to be known not as a benevolent ruler, but a malevolent and merciless lord of bloody handed judgement.

>>52266612
writefaggotry when

>>52266742
Outcast dead? Arik monologues about his final confrontation with the Emperor who let him go instead of slaying him.

>>52266722
But Magnus fucked up big time he kind of deserved it

>>52266612
>>52266742

>official records state Thunder Warriors all died
>official records note a significant surge in Custodes numbers since launching the Great Crusade outside Terra's orbit

Pretty obvious what happened.

>>52266796

No one is defending Magnus in this thread, wolfman.

>>52266722

Was that ever in doubt? The narrator says over and over the Emperor is not kind and the Crusade is violent and bloody. There's a reason the Emperor tells you not to call him a god. Do you think "compliance" and "bringing to heel" worlds via an entire Imperial Crusade is some kind of frolicking in a meadow picnic meeting?

>>52266829

It was always in doubt. Hundreds of thousands die to a psychic experiment on the Throneworld and the Emperor merely wants Magnus arrested and brought to trial on Judge Judy. Just one little instance.

>>52266826
You seem to be siding with him against the Emperor

>>52266868

You seem to be siding with the Primarch equivalent of a college jock with brain problems.

>>52266868
>>52266796
>kind of
>seem to
have some conviction you pussy

>>52266891
I'm siding with the Emperor. Care to remind me of his words at Nikea again?

>>52266954

>moving the goal posts to a different planet

are you fucking kidding me

>>52266971
Holy fuck Magnus, how much you gonna play the victim card? Also you ran out of buzz words to use

>>52266989
>>52266971
Can you both shut up? It's clear the Horus was actually a good guy, only corrupted by his religousfag brother. If only he had listened when he was told to stop sperging out.

Religion. Not even once.

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>>52267010

>>52267010

Rabid atheism is also a form of religion. It shares all the same dogmas, prejudice, and irrationality of any theistic practice. The only true path is The Way of Not Giving a Shit.

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>decide to get into 30k
>time to decide on a legion
>probably Alpha Legion because operator memes and god-tier iconography
>but wait, Ultramarines appeal to the Romeaboo in me
>Iron Warriors have that brutal bare metal warmachine look
>maybe White Scars because I like to go fast and the cultured barbarian thing is fun

Choosing is suffering. I just like them all.
Except Word Bearers. Lorgar a shit.

Thinking of painting IF.

Is a good way to do this using Averland Sunset as a base, Yriel Yellow as a layer, washing in Serpahim Sepia, and then lightlightly highlighting Screaming Skull?

>>52267218
Paint them as Ultramarines with snake iconography, now they are UM or AL when you want them. Add WS/IW to come up with a traitor shattered legion force.

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>>52267258
I can give you the recipe for this lovely yellow. It's a bit more of a dark golden yellow than normal, but I loves it.

>>52267310
God damn it phone.

>>52267310
Please and thank you.

>>52267332
Prime white. Several layers of property thinned Vallejo 'heavy goldbrown' until you have a uniform basecoat, then line recesses, seams, and panel lines with agrax earthshade. Go back with the base color and touch up your lines anywhere the wash ran over, and then for highlights I used a 50/50 mix of the base color and P3 Menoth White Highlight. It's a really weird creamy off-white that gives it a little more of a bright yellow hue rather than a bright gold.

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>>52267389
Following this, I'm still going to try for a bit darker recesses around the chest and head, but that's my method thus far and it makes for a very deep golden yellow.

Here's how it looks on a smaller model with more of a drybrushy highlighting method.

Forgive all the sideways phone pics. I'm at work.

>>52267310
cute bird

is that from the sigmarine scout dudes?

>>52266829
Sure.

The issue I have with being a totalitarian is when the plot has morphed into the Emperor being a totalitarian that intended for the Hors Heresy to happen all along. It defeats the setting whole handedly.

There's no surprise, suspense or even awe at the galactic civil war if it was "Just as Planned"

That's the issue, the Emperor being a sentimental sod is stupid but far superior to the new appalling lore that would have him instead be smote by Horus so he could eat souls and become a god ten thousand years in the future.

But before anyone suggests that height not have been powerful enough to Best Horus in the initial stages of their duel, don't forget that at the death of a mortal he erases Horus from existence, with such might that the Gods themselves bail out.

>>52267431
That is a White Scars cyber hawk, sir.

...and yes. My combi-plasma seekers just chase it around all game.

If a unit has outflanking and jumps in a transport before deployment that isn't a dedicated transport vehicle can the unit still outflank?

>>52267425
Is there a reason why the format of the pic goes retarded wen posting from a phones library?

>>52267613
Because 4chan strips the phone metadata trbrtying the pic to its original orientation. If you reorient then crop a photo that should lock it in place.

>>52267445
Having just finished master of mankind yesterday, the whole abloobloo about ADB saying the emperor had "just as planned" the heresy is complete bullshit. There is actually a passage in there where he makes a distinct point to Ra Endemyion about how future sight allows him to see the goals, the path to reach those goals is difficult and ever changing from countless millions of variables. It's actually a pretty well-written passage. I'll see if I can screencap it once I can get to my tablet.

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>>52267310

>free hand paint scratches

witnessed

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Anyone tried planting LED for vehicles and stuffs? How did it go?

>>52267788
Anyone know if there's a rebreather/mask bits like that? with teeth and stuff.

>>52266618
Is that an Iron Warrior?

>>52267453
Size looks better than I thought it'd be, based on the GW images. Still got to figure out what sort of cyber familiar my militia commander will get, and bird just jumped up a bit.

>>52267803
Generally dislike those. it's a lot of work and effort for an effect that's mostly annoying and kinda cheapens any work you put into it.

Unless you go full hog retard with it.

>>52267788
The dread wear and tear are freehand. Druss's armor was pretty dinged up on the stock model, but his arms are plastic. He's actually recently been re-equipped with a boarding shield to roll with my breachers. The axe and fist were kind of redundant.

>>52267751
Ok good, because I was just parroting what a few individuals had said prior, that combined with the imminent Age of Sigmaring of 40k I wouldn't have put it past GW to be like.

"Hum, he was NEVER A RETARD, JUST AS PLANNED BAHAHAHAHA"

Do you recommend the read?

>>52267854
I can post some size comparisons when I get home. The bird on the falconer's glove bit is PERFECT on a MkIII marine.

>>52267948

I think a boarding shield on a plain centurion is an underrated addition to tactical/assault/bike blobs for dem defensive grenades, good choice.
He'll stand out.

>>52267847
No, its a Thunder Warrior, do you not see the muddled overly weathered armor there? Is it not apparent enough Frenon?

>>52267971
Nah, seeing it next to the bikes is good enough for me.

Next time I do any bits ordering I'll probably get a bird.

>>52267989
...I'm still gonna.

>>52267992
Do it Brunon. You have mein support.

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>>52266796
He deserved to be used as a battery and band-aid to fix the mess he made, not the sweet release of death.
Russ was a wasteful and inconsiderate berzerker not fit for command, and I'd request he be detained the same way Magnus was going to be, but at least Magnus would be of some use.
Remove Space Wolves, they're the Word Bearers of Loyalists

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SISTERS WITH POWER AXES WHEN

>>52268047
Fuck off. We're talking about birds now.

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>>52267983
>Thunder Warriors in MkIII

>>52268070
Fuck Bird Wearers :^)

>>52268097
MKIII is MKII with additional armor plating. MKII is obtained and in some instances turned into MKIII.

The end.

>>52268049
>Excruciatus Cadre can buy unspecified "Power weapons"
>So do Prosecutors
>Oblivion Knights can literally swap their -1 Paragon Blades for Power Axes
I suppose you're talking about the models themselves.
Eh, can't be longer than what bitterbois waited for their Tyrants.
OR CAN IT :^)

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>>52268138
>MKIII is MKII with additional armor plating
Too bad Thunder Warriors used MKI, a partially-powered armour that wasn't even void-proof

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>>52266804
>When the Emperor shows glimmers of benevolence

>>52268205
Too bad you leapt straight into Armor autism rather than asking me what sort of narrative I have created.

>>52267077
It's not really irrational. Normal religions will tell you, do X and don't do Y because that's what God wants, maybe. You have no way of knowing if that is true or not, though. Atheism on the other hand will tell you specifically to not be religious because the historical record shows that religion fucks a lot of things up.

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>>52268246
I'll bite.
Why is that Thunder Warrior wearing MkIII? I mean, sure, his old MkI shirt isn't battleworthy anymore and can only be used as pajamas, and he obviously knows BEST ARMR when he sees it...but why is he wearing it?

can someone explain to my why Vexillas are better on bigger units? Doesn't bigger unit size means that it would need more casualties for the vexilla to even matter?

>>52268337
It's psychological - smaller percentage of the unit's cost. Also more likely to survive after taking a bunch of casualties vs. the 10 man squad just getting wiped out.

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>>52268288
You're missing that anon's point. Being atheist yourself can be product of a rational decision.
But elevate it to FANATISM tier and you become Stalin, and the guy didn't even conquer Earth.
It's fanatism what shits up stuff, since most religious tennets can be reduced to "Try to not be a shitty person for once", which is the path of giving a healthy amount of shit.

After all, I think the (30k) Imperium does respect individual faith Pious is catholic as long as you:

>Do not actively oppose Compliancy, the Emperor, the Imperium, His subjects, the Great Crusade and Human Supremacy
>Do not engage in proselitist activities
>Do not adore the Emperor as a god. You may, however, venerate Him as an example of what humanity should strive to be even if He's not a human like you and me Focus on the good aspects please

>>52268301
So my boy here is a first generation Thunder Warrior, through trial by combat he has EARNED a suit of MKIII Power Armor from the limited stores of this Thunder Warrior Warband.

Arik managed to create a functional Thunder Warrior progenoid and through out the duration of the Crusade has been building up his force of Thunder Warrior Blackshields.

>>52268301
He has worn it in numerous void conflicts against the Emperor and his servants.

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>>52268379
>Arik managed to create a functional Thunder Warrior progenoid and through out the duration of the Crusade has been building up his force of Thunder Warrior Blackshields.
Is that thing still canon now that Inferno has been released?
MkIII shall serve them well, one of the few armours that can keep up with their pace.
I guess.
I'm sleepy
>>52268403
But that's heresy anon-kun. Don't be a heresy. You've outlived your usefulness, accept your death :^)

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What do ya'll think about my list?

>>52268432
Within the black books its confirmed that there where after the Custodes culled the Thunder Warriors.

It now being confirmed doesn't remove that other piece of information coming from the same source.

Between Arik escaping with a functional Progenoid Gland and the Thunder Warriors dying 1-5 against the War Hounds, I'm sure there is some relation or overlap there.

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>>52268288
I'm atheist, and I've met other atheists who just won't shut up about it. They're obsessed, dogmatic, and prejudiced. Irrational is more up for debate. But anyway, it's the "obsessed" part that's the problem. Lorgar needed something to be obsessed about and that was never going to end well.

Have some chill dudes instead.

>>52268458
>Progenoid Glan
Did the Thunder Warriors have this? As a temporary tool to be disgarded, it doesn't make sense in my opinion.

>>52268477
No, Arik Taranis made one out of World Eater geneseed that was compatible with the Thunder Warrior genetic material, IE Thunder Warrior Progenoid Gland.

>>52268477
Or geneseed, some other Anon got me all fucked up when the two are synonymous

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Anyone have any good ideas for Stake-Crossbow bits for the SoS command squad? There's the new 40k inquisitor, but that's a combi-weapon and I'd need five of them since I want to run it on the whole squad (mostly because it's a free upgrade to have a S5 bolter instead of 18" assault 2 4+ poison).

If I had to guess may Maxifoux might have something but I no basically nothing about that game. Basically, we're looking for a relatively modern-looking crossbow that hopefully has some other contrivances like a curved box magazine or an optical scope.

>>52268456
Your damocles has essentially no usage at all, Mortis-Naughts get very little usage from a havoc launcher since you cant hit flyers with blasts and a s5 blast is kinda useless. At 3000 points you're very light on AA with only a contemptor. Your heavy support is good, but you have no CC squad you want to put Perty into-and he will never, ever make back a third of his points without a retinue, and gives very little to this army overall. I would either build more around pert, or more around artillery, since atm you're trying to do both and that'll never work. Consider dropping Pert and your Damocles, and bringing either a bunch more quad launchers and another tac squad to do the objective game, or a fellblade/glaive/typhon/something shooty

>>52268456
No twenty man blobs with Apothecaries? Are you crazy anon? You have only five dudes to walk among-st the shells as they detonate upon thine enemy. YOU ARE A FOOL.

>>52268432
On a side note maybe I will play Loyalists.

Who knows.

>>52268532
I kek'ed.

>>52266722
You do know He is worshipped by the people of Imperium as a god right? And while it might vary from planet to planet, largely He "came to be known" as a benevolent protector.

>>52268623
This is 30k frenon, not 40k, here we follow the Imperial TRUTH. Not the Imperial FAITH.

TRUTH /-/ FAITH

YOU DECIDE

>>52267218
Space Wolves:
>go fast and are barbaric
>are grey, so you could paint them metallic
>are sorta like barbarians under the heel of rome
>have many, many memes

>>52268502
Inquisitor greyfax's crossbow would be perfect.

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>>52268502
you'd want to shave the sigmar bits off, but..

>>52268650
>There's the new 40k inquisitor, but that's a combi-weapon and I'd need five of them
did you not bother reading the post?

>>52268378
You forgot how the Emperor thought religion fuelled the gods, and therefore had to be crushed without mercy.

>>52268631
He was called Beloved By All.

>>52268654
Stormbolters weren't invented yet.

>>52268675
Not don't get me wrong Bronon. I enjoy a good Emperor dick sucking too, but beloved by all is clearly Unification era propaganda.

Last time I checked the Emperor was universally hated by any non Imperial.

Basic ass humans that had their own Empires thought him to be a massive fuck boy.

Horus himself eventually thought him to be a massive fuck boy.

>>52268686
>non Imperial
Oh. You mean those people. Who gives a fuck about their opinion?

>>52268659
Glanced at it.

>>52268680
do you even know what a storm bolter looks like

>>52268675
He was nearly strangled to death by an Ork mega boss. This fool steps down from leading the Great Crusade because, and I quote; "The Galaxy can be reconquered at any time"

He clearly didn't understand the scale of this endeavor if he thought utilizing the Eldar Webway would make all his problems magically go away.

>>52268693
Half the Legions and most of the Mechanicum grew to think of him as a fuck boy.

How many bloodbowl characters and iron hill dwarves can they possibly release before getting to the thousand sons stuff

>>52268693
The other super special humans in his super special perpetual club thought he was a fuck boy.

>>52268693
I liked him more when he was an amalgamation of ancient Shamans who all drank the cool aide at once because the Warp was eating their souls instead of letting them reincarnate, at least then we have some humble ass beginnings. Not "I've been immortal forever, it only took me thirty thousand years to figure out what to do with it."

Christ man

>>52268502
Dark elf crossbows maybe?

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So I finally put together my current collection of Horus Heresy eligible models and I'm laughing at such a low model count. 5000 points I just want to throw on the field.

Legio Custodes

HQ: Legio Custodes Tribune w/ Praesidium Shield, Cyber-Familiar, and Digital Weapons Paragon Spear 270pt

HQ: Legio Custodes Shield Captain w/ Paragon Spear, Melta Bombs, and Digital Lasers 225pt

HQ: Legio Custodes Shield Captain w/ Pyrithite Spear, Melta Bombs, Cyber Familiar, Digital Lasers 220pt

Elites: Legio Custodes Contempter-Achillus Dreadnought w/ Dreadspear and 2 TL-Adrathic Destructors 270pt

Troops: Legio Custodes Custodian Guard Squad of 5 w/ a Magisterium Vexilla/Sentinel WarBlade and Melta Bombs 310pt

Troops: Legio Custodes Custodian Guard Squad of 5 w/ Melta Bombs 300pt

Troops: Legio Custodes Sentinel Guard Squad of 5 w/ a Magisterium Vexilla and Solerite Power Gauntlet 325pt

Transport: Legio Custodes Coronus Grav Carrier w/ Extra Armor 140pt

Transport: Legio Custodes Coronus Grav Carrier w/ Extra Armor 140pt

Heavy Support: Legio Custodes Caladius Grav Tank w/ Extra Armor 200pt

Heavy Support: Legio Custodes Caladius Grav Tank w/ Extra Armor 200pt

Heavy Support: Legio Custodes Contemptor-Galatus Dreadnought 250pt

Heavy Support: Legio Custodes Contemptor-Galatus Dreadnought 250pt


Total = 3100pt


Questoris Knights

Seneschal: Knight Warden w/ Avenger Gatling, Thunderstrike Gauntlet, Ironstorm Missile Pod, and Meltagun 470pt

Scion Martial: Knight Paladin w/ Rapid Fire Battle Cannon, Reaper Chainsword, Twin Icarus Autocannon, Occular Augmentics, and BioCorrosive Rounds 425pt

Scion Arbalester: Knight Crusader w/ Thermal Cannon, Avenger Gatling, Stormspear Rocketpod, and Meltagun 505pt

Scion Dolorous: Knight Atrapos w/ Graviton Singularity Cannon, Atrapos Lascutter, and Occular Augmentics 460pt

Total = 1900


Overall Total = 5000 points

>>52268705
A ridiculous amount, but never getting around to the Death Roller. The death roller is the omen that the blood bowl and dwarves era is coming to an end.

>>52268715
The shaman thing hasn't been contradicted yet. Master of Mankind didn't address that, but it did show him as a boy in ancient Anatolia.

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>>52268007

How do Deredeo Dreads w/ the Arachnus Lascannon Battery do in an anti-armor role?

>>5226014
So only Lorgar and Demon dudes? What about Iconoclasts?

>>52268826
>how does the dedicated anti-armour platform perform in the anti-armour role
the answer is well, unless you're firing into the flare shield of a Spartan

>>52268826
They pop armor like nobodies business. Give them a launcher as well for extra evil.

Against 90% of vehicles they will murder everything. Running two is guaranteed to scare people.

>>52268796
Where are those birds from? They look awesome.

>>52268964
Can they also handle anti-air?

>>52268969
>Where are those birds from? They look awesome.
One of the new Stormcast Eternal kits. Comes with three flying birds and one on a glove.

>>52268970
Yes. Very well. The autocannons are effective at suppression fire.

>>52269010
So if I were to choose between a Contemptor-Mortis w/ Kheres and a Medusa
or
Deredeo w/ Lascannons and Missile Launcher, which is preferable?

Would the robed Deathwing Knight bodies fit on Cataphractii legs? I've been studying the sprues but can't tell if the gap between the legs is wide enough.

>>52269078
It really depends on what you want them to do. The Contemptor is meant for smashing shit and shredding units even before that. It will handle CC and will be much more vulnerable, but will wipe the floor with most units as long as it's properly supported.

The Deredeo is aptly named "Mad Cat MKII" for a reason. It is a walking engine of fucking death and will kill just about anything it fires at. If played correctly it will be safe more often than not and will tear apart anything that looks in its general direction. Use it to pop vehicles and wound high profile units. A pair of them will annihilate most armored units in the game on their own.

Contemptor is more risk for more reward and Deredeo is more streamlined effectiveness.

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Reminder that Eidolon's a fucking fatass.

Does anyone know how big the Iron Warrior Grand Companies were in 30K?

>>52269254
nothing short of perfection M8

>>52269274
they were very big

>>52268705
Too many. Most likely explanation is that they're waiting until they have enough stock to cope with demand, plus waiting until Gathering Storm was over and done with so that they wouldn't risk getting overshadowed by GW stuff (which already sort of happened with them revealing action figure Girlyman only 1-2 days before the HH Weekender).

>>52269281
He even needs a chunky breastplate custom-made for him to contain his gut.

>>52269303
All that hedonism comes at a cost

Remember. Never reply to Tripfags.

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>>52269284

>>52267027
>All will feel the edge of my blades

pottery

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>>52268796
Hot bird, nicely done

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Does anyone have a bigger pic of this?

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How can this guy even function?

How do:

Candy Red Thousand Sons ?

>>52269534

>Prime/base bright gold
>Apply transparent red

Ideally you'd use an iarbrush for the latter stage at least. Additional shading can be carried out before or after the clear red coat.

>>52269534
Forge World's scheme has been posted on Bolter and Chainsword. Just Google "metallic Thousand Sons scheme", it's the first result.

Were there more Loyalists or more Traitors in each Traitor Legions at the point of Isstvan 3?

>>52266804
Well yeah. The Emperor had a larger pool of potential recruits when he started conquering worlds.

Thunder Warriors can't become Custodes.

>>52268379
Oh my God dude. That's the snowflakiest Your Dudes I have seen in these threads.

>>52269625
Theres been one dude making really snowflakey army fluff and posting awfully painted models asking for c&c, i.e. trying to troll recently, best to ignore anything obviously too stupid

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What is everyone painting today?
These are the first 5 models of my 2.5k Talons/Salamanders list.
Test model in the foreground
>inb4 shitty quality photo

If I wanted to start a mechanicum army how much crossover is there wit 40k admech?

>>52269687
Basically none at all friendo

>>52269687
Very little to none. There might be some crossover in the far, far future when FW release Cyraxus, but thats probably going to be next year at the earliest

where's the mediafire link for inferno? Can't that shit just be up in the sticky, it's barely been out two weeks.

>>52266448
Yes... YESSSSS
Yifffags BTFO.

>>52269687
Not much, but the bodies of skitarii rangers get used, you could probably use vanguard models with some spears and shields though. Some people use the kataphrons and castellus robots though.

>>52267027
That is the cringiest thing I have ever seen.
How do these people live? At least they will never breed

Fluffwise, what 'Pattern' are GW's boxy plastic vehicles? FW's round ones seems to be called Deimos IIRC.

Mars pattern

>>52269518
cant even poop, poor sod

>>52268379
Don't thunder warriors not have a black carapace

>>52269790
Don't bother, that guy has already proven that he will let nothing get in the way of having his snowflake special boys.

Can't be long now before he decides his guys are even more incorruptable than the GK or something.

Is there any book that has color schemes for various Forge Worlds' Mechanicus army?

>>52268680
I see what you did there
Kek/10 good effort

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>>52269671
Finishing off this custodian as a break from painting 27 red TS and testing the scheme. Paints have come a long way from the old days, can't imagine getting gold half as flat as you can today back then.

>>52269846
I want to know what FW's scheme for Zhou-Arkhad is.

anyone have that iron warriors painting guide?

>>52269671
Just primed my Deathshroud kit bash, hopefully slap some paint on em later.

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>>52269890
Here you go bud

>>52266711
yes, poorfags get out

seriously, if you want to get into magnets get a drill bit the correct size, it really makes everything a lot easier

all Terminators magnetized, all Dreads magnetized, Breacher special weapons and sgt magnetized

turn your dudes into action figures

Anyone using GW Bikes for Outrider?

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>>52269890
Here ya go.

>>52270096
many thanks, anon! been looking for days!

>>52270096
>>52269935
Don't suppose you can drop the Night Lords one? I just use kantor and nuln with layered lightning, but im curious as to how you're supposed to do it

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>>52270140
Sure

As a bonus, here is another way of doing it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPXapWRhybc&t

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>>52270012
Yes. Because I'll take Judge Dredd over Akira.

>>52270153
See, i find both of those too bright a blue to be In Midnight Clad, whereas with a few more coats of wash you can get real contrast with the lightning and the brass. Still, different strokes for different folks, i guess

Anyone here have a Glaive tank? Looking at main weapons for my Mechanicum Manta, and I found that Chinaman sells just the Glaive turret, which works well. Does the turret come as one large part, or are the gun and/or capacitors separate
Finding suitable long-barrelled burst cannon parts is proving a little tricky. Either going to use Necron Gauss blasters since they look cool or 32 heavy bolters, which would be a pain to get my hands on.

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List I'm working towards for my Iron Warriors. Thoughts?

I know I'm lacking AA but there are next to no fliers in my local meta.

>>52269946
Soemthing I wonder. Don't the arms wiggle around on terminators or dreads? Are the magnets strong enough?

>>52266618

1.5mm drillbit and 1.5mm rare earth magnets. About £5 on eBay for the drillbit and like 50 magnets tops. Magnetize at the wrist, make sure you use a sharp blade to drill directly in the middle before you drill with your bit.

>>52270441
Not that guy but thanks bruv.

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>>52269671
Trying to get the troopers done on this cataphracti squad before sucking up and doing the sgt (praetor model).

Also doing and redoing the points totals for a Legion Terminator Squad kitted with all sorts of gear and a mastery level vs a Sekhmet squad with the same gear, to make sure these numbers are right.

>>52270441
Now, I'll sound like an idiot, but which measurement is supposed to be 1.5mm? The first one or the second?

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>>52270472
>sekhmet without force weapons

why evne play ts?

Can talons be a competitive army at 2k points?

>>52270487
I've got a naked Tartaros squad with force weapons.
These were going to be Order of Ruin Terminators for fluff reasons.
But now I'm checking the points totals to see if just making them Sekhmet without force weapons is worth it.

>>52270472
They're pretty good, but if allow me 2 critics, the white on the helmets is a wee bit tacky. Have used pure white or light greys?

Secondly, the dudes pointing with his chainfist is not looking at finger. Either turn his head, lower the bolter, or both, but do something if you can. Right now you have two points of the model pointing at different places.

Other than that it's pretry good man.

>>52269274
I think they were about 10,000. though rarely ever at full strength due to the way the Iron Warriors generally operated.

>>52270504
Thanks for the crits, appreciated. The white on the helm probably looked better before I glomped pearlescent white on it.

>>52270500
fair enough, one of my main hangups is that the alternative options, though limited, are underpriced. A fluffy unit being cheap is never a problem.

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>>52270480
Forgot the picture

>>52270480

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/25-N35-1-5mm-dia-x-2mm-tiny-Neodymium-neo-rod-magnets-DIY-MRO-craft-fridge-/131663624613?hash=item1ea7c379a5:g:tBEAAOSwwbdWN1DE

These bud. 1.5mm x 2mm

>>52267027
>extol the values of Libertarianism
my fucking sides

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>>52269671
Waiting another 20 minutes for these to finish drying (though honestly I could probably start on the one I did first), after giving them a brush of Reikland Fleshshade, before getting started on painting the rest of the gold.

>>52270671
>tfw you're showing the picture to another friend and notice you missed a spot on the centre model's left foot.

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>>52270593
Perfect, thanks!

>>52268378
Good point anon, but don't forget that Pius lives in Ultramar, and Guilliman seems to be more pragmatic than his father regarding this aspect of human psychology. Religion is officialy illegal in the 500 Worlds, the UM just don't bother bullying otherwise loyal citizens.

>>52268654
>>52268724
solid ideas, the sigmar ones do actually look like they'd work pretty well

>>52270780

Wait, there are only 500 worlds in the imperium?

Suddenly the speed of the great crusade and the ridiculously small "One million marines" bits make more sense.

>>52270844
In ultramar u dipshit.

>>52270780
>>52270849
I never really understood the size of Ultramar. In some source I read that Ultramar is the region of space controlled by the Ultramarines and they control 8 worlds or systems (depends on source), and in other source Ultramar has hundreds of worlds.

>>52270849

Ah. What fraction of the imperium is Ultramar then?

>>52270881
An ridiculously small part of it.

>>52270881
500*100(%) / 1000000 = 0.05%
An oooooh soooo important 0.05%, fitting of abandoning Terra for, I suppose

>>52269671
Don't have picture but I'm working on a TS tac squad and a terminator squad and debating on white or black bolter casings.

>>52270844
>>52270849

You just have to sort of quietly accept that the writing staff don't grasp the scale of tasks or how much a marine can accomplish.

Realistically the biggest limit to the great crusade would be how long it takes to subjuga- uh, incorporate a world, work it's hierarchy into the ministorum and raise armies from it to keep the pace accelerating as you move onto new worlds.

Starting with 20 marine legion spearheads to assign to armies and whatever you can recruit from Terra, Mars and the immediate surrounding area... It would presumably take maybe three decades to build the imperium to a hundred worlds, maybe 30% of which are well enough integrated to raise new recruits from on a full war footing.

>>52270875
Pre-heresy it had 500 systems, in M41 after Bobby's return it regained same size.

>>52270416

3mm dia magnets minimum, try to not have them smoothly touch - leave a little space so they don't click together and have a bit of resin/plastic 'burs' from the drill hole still there so they bind. I have zero problems with arm droop, even on (plastic) Contemptors - make sure that you have stronk neodymium type magnets for this

tl:dr - it's only gay if the magnets touch

So now that Custodes have their own 40k warlord trait table. Does this mean it can be used in 40k and 30k? Or only 40k?

What does tg think? Ask opponent type of deal or hell no?

>>52270318
6 x quad launchers

way to loose friends

I'm going to build 2 yeah, but 6...?

give your Siege Breaker a Phosphex grenade or two for the lolz

>>52271126
Very much only 40k. They don't get Aquilions and Valdor, you don't get Land Raiders and Wtraits.

>>52271070
>>52270416

I make do with 2x1 mm neodymium and I have 0 issues with arm drop on termis and the like.
Actually letting the magnets touch makes the bond that much stronger, so yeah make sure they aren't covered with paint or glue residue.

Hell, I made do with 2x1 mm on my plastic contemptor and I only get some armdrop on the kheres/MM side outside of the 4-8 clock zone. (Yes, I ran out of 3x1 mm magnets).

>>52270977
Not really, that whole process was still underway when Robby G realized he was wasting time doing the same thing he did once before (hint hint) and puts everything down to go to Terra, to clean up more than just his room.

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Okay Bitterboys, I've cooked up a first draft of a fluffy IW force made to besiege. Thoughts?

>Iron Warriors: You get a Decimation Strikeforce
>Hammer of Olympia Rite of War
>3,000 Points

Praetor
>Terminator Armor, Chainfist
Siege Breaker Consul
>Terminator Armor, Chainfist, 3 Phosphex Bombs
Command Squad
>Land Raider, Terminator Armor, Chainfists

Terminator Squad
>Land Raider, Chainfists
Quad Launcher Battery
>2 Launchers, Shatter shells, Phosphex Shells
Quad Launcher Battery
>2 Launchers, Shatter shells, Phosphex Shells

Tactical Squad
>15 Marines, Melta Bomb
Tactical Squad
>15 Marines, Melta Bomb
Tactical Squad
>15 Marines, Melta Bomb

Tyrant Siege Terminators
>Chainfists
Tyrant Siege Terminators
>Chainfists
Medusa
>Phosphex Shells, Dozer Blade
Medusa
>Phosphex Shells, Dozer Blade

>>52271370
I wouldn't know what would need adjusting in that armylist, looks damn solid. Maybe only remove the phospex shells on the medusas, as the standard ones are better in basically every situation.

>>52271422
Can they not use both? I thought it was an "in addition to" sort of upgrade, so I can use it against Marines and the like.

If not then I'll drop them

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>>52271126
The ones for 40k should be confined to 40k becausethey were made to interact in that cheesy environment...but all factions should have their own WTs, not just the fucking special snowflake furries

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/User:Unification#Legiones_Astartes_Warlord_Trait_Tables

Which by the way, reminds me of this:

Ultramarine Warlord Traits

>Gladiarch
The Warlord gains an single increase of +1W on an ongoing duel (after the first round), until the end of it. Glorious Interventions do not cancel the bonus if the Warlord is being swapped out, but swapping him in doesn't count as having already fought the first round.

>Peerless Logistician
+1 to Seize the Initiative, while the Warlord lives you can add or substract 1 from a single Reserves roll each turn. For units with the Legiones Astartes (Ultramarines) rule, this is increased to +2/-2 if wished.

>Courage and Honour
The Warlord has the Fearless special rule

>Dominio Lectora
The Warlord has the Crusader special rule

>Unbreakable Will
The Warlord rerolls Ld tests, Deny the Witch and is immune to the Concussion special rule

>Master of Command
At the end of the movement phase, the Warlord can designate a unit with the Legiones Astartes (Ultramarines) rule within 6" (including his own). That unit rerolls charge ranges and to-Hit rolls of one.

>>52271580
No. A siege breaker allows medusas to "exchange" their normal shells for phospex ones, not keep them and be able to choose.

>>52271370
Wait, do all the Tyrants have chainfists? Aren't they first and foremost a shooty footslogger squad? Perhaps you could bring something else is you let go of the chainfists.

Also, Artillery squads are still 0-1 even with Hammer of Olympia, so you cannot bring 2 Medusae in two different squads.

>>52271640
>artillery squads 0-1
Where does it say that? I'm new, so I have no idea

>chainfists
I suppose they are more shooty, but I like the look and feel, not to mention in fluff 'overkill' is the IW's standard package.

>>52270153
>http://pastebin.com/Tm2P4QLp
Is there one for Dark Angels?

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>>52271736

>>52271736
Top of the unit entry : 0-1 Legion Artillery Tank Squadron

Tyrants need at least one or two chainfists in case a pesky dreadnought manages to charge them, but all 5 is a bit much

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>>52271751
There is, although apart from one kneepad there's not much about it that screams "dark angels" to me.

>>52271777
>>52271773
Oh. Well I guess I'll grab some Vindicators then.

I guess I'll drop some of those chainfists and a mortar to grab a kheresnaught, at least have some AA.

>>52271817
One guy with a Famlen army that got featured on warhammer community painted hi Cypher black with green highlights. And it's actually really fuxking good.
So instead of going for the Tron look here, going with dark green edge highlights will make all the difference.

>>52271817
>>52271907
Cheers. I'll have a look into that other scheme as well

>>52269767

Mars pattern

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>>52271907
>>52271922
Pic related.

Look up "All's good in the hood warhammer community and you sjould find his army". One of ADB's friend I reckon.

>>52271953
Not that guy, but thanks, this will come in handy as I'm ramping up on as many DA schemes as I can find for the in-progress Ironwing and Ravenwing armies.

>>52269767
Rhino:
>FW = Deimos
>GW = Mars
Land Raider Phobos:
>FW = MkIIb
>GW = MkIII
Castaferrum Dreadnought:
>FW = MkIV
>GW = MkV

>>52269790
The black carapace isn't required for using Power Armor.

>>52269845
Muh "Snowflakes" haven't hand waved much of anything, Should I run S5 T5 Space Marines and have no narrative in mind? Oh yeah some random Magos fucked with my muhreens Gene Seed so kewl.

You are fucking faggot Anon for magnifying non existent issues based on differences of personal opinion. You statistically are unlikely to even HAVE models, let alone have started painting them or put thought into your forces back story.

>>52272188
There's a difference between having a story for My Dudes and picking one of the most unlikely explanations possible. And I don't know if you noticed, but your story also includes some asshole fucking around with geneseed, 'so kewl'

>"you probably don't even own models REEEEEEEE"

fucking kek.

Also, space marine power most certainly does require the black carapace in order to function properly. Without it you can forget about the fibrebundles assisting in moving the weight of the armour without hindering your own movement, as well as the benefits autosenses provide, just to name some examples. There's a very good reason the implantation of the Black Carapace is considered one of the most important steps of turing kids into marines.

>>52271953
These are gorgeous, but they do look Dark Green instead of Black. Look at black armour painting tutorials as the tron scheme is equally weird.

>>52272363
>space marine power most certainly does require the black carapace

Sure, but in 30k and 40k non-Marines are perfectly capable of using power armour, even terminator armour. Power armour of the Sisters of Battle is even based on the Marine armour.

>>52272188
>Muh "Snowflakes" haven't hand waved much of anything.
For starters, there was never mention of a surviving force of Thunder Warriors of reasonable size in the Heresy.

Secondly, whilst power admin needs no black carapace to work, Astartes power armour does require it to properly link the user to the suit, otherwise the muscle fiber bundles, augmented sensor suite and all other increased bodily functions are not there. Thunder Warriors didn't get a carapace because MkI PA didn't have such advanced systems, after all, only the upper torso was actually powered.

So yeah, your cherrypicking of fluff that suits you and convenient forgetfulness of conflicts certainly make your force look snowflakey, claiming to have the upper hand lorewise is just petty.

>You are fucking faggot Anon for magnifying non existent issues based on differences of personal opinion.

Please, try to avoid ad-hominem attacks, they only make you look immature.
And no, this isn't just a difference of personal opinion.

>You statistically are unlikely to even HAVE models, let alone have started painting them or put thought into your forces back story.

Nice assumption.
Well then, let's just say I beat the statistics by a good margin. I happen to own a nicely sized army which is all painted and fluffed up.

>>52272363
Dude, he's just providing narrative for his Chymeriae bois, chill.
Not to mention those guys do have a -1I penalty that could easily be seen as the downside of lacking Black carapaces, which leaves them in mortal speed like Inquisitors in Termie armour or SoBs.

>>52272363
What would the difference be between my Magos comparison, which is arguably MORE hand waving than having an story that is supported by fluff?

Arik Taranis created Thunder Warrior Gene Seed, it happened.

Following through with a separate Warrior Culture that isn't just Marines +1 satisfies my own interest in the Unification era and technology that is cruder, more barbaric.

>>52272423
A sizable force survived immediately after the Unification and wiped the floor with the War Hounds, it was a force of 500 Thunder Warriors. Arik made his gene seed sometime after that.

Lacking a Black Carapace is explicit stated as only hindering the user in terms of encumbrance. You don't have a leg to stand on Anon.

>Please, try to avoid ad-hominem attacks, they only make you look immature.
And no, this isn't just a difference of personal opinion.


It clearly is a difference of lore interpretation, Power Armor is being utilized by common humans prior to the Crusade, during the Crusade and AFTER the Crusade, by Human Empries, the Silent Sisters followed by the Sisters of battle.

This comes down to "I don't like your ideas" vs "These are my ideas"

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Opinions on a WS paint scheme? Not sure where the BoP imgur link went. Thinking of doing the Duncan method for the WE for the WS armor unless anybody has a better suggestion.

>>52272404
You misunderstand. He's saying reggo humans can still use PA, but reggo humans are really bulky and slow while using it- hence I3 on anyone not Marines in 40k, because without the carapace it's a really big and difficult- if effective- suit of armor.

>>52272434
This.
I don't see the point in someone coming up with some wild lore for an army that specifically says "Come up with some shit".
If you want to go full badwrongfun, take it to the 40k thread and argue with Eldarfags.

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>>52272499
But silent sisters DON'T wear power armour. Their gear "shares design elements" with it, yes, but they're not wearing power armour, Mr. Lore Interpretation.

>>52272538
Even then you have this singular example, splitting hairs I've ultimately provided two other examples of non Astartes using POWER ARMOR.

My points stands.

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>>52272188
Here are some of my models anon. IW fighting for the loyalist cause because the population of the world they were protecting was taken away by Dark Mechanicum forces.

The problem with your guys is that you're going against very well established lore. Thunder Warriors are dead and buried during the Great Crusade and they just won't come back like that. They weren't even meant to last more than a generation.
It'd be like me saying that I play WB that have been possessed by demons but are fighting on the loyalist side during the siege of terra because the demons that possessed were benevolent.

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>>52272530
Not to mentions the fag(s?)'s claiming astartes power armour absolutely needs the black carapace.
And he's right, it does...but he seems to be forgetting CHYMERIAE ARE INITIATIVE 3, the same as Guardsmen, as well as -1" Charge & run distances and cannot Sweep.
Which would be explained by someone attempting to use Astartes power armour but lacking the necessary black carapace for properly interfacing with it.

>>52272369
I think only Cypher was painted black, and even then, with green highlights, making it seem like it's green armor.

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>>52272558
FFS man, just do it or don't already. Nobody here likes the idea, so too bad, don't post.

If you like the idea, them do it. No skin off my or anyone else's back. But stop shitting up the thread trying to justify it when everyone else doesn't want it.

>>52272558
>I've ultimately provided two other examples
In the 31st millenium? What are they? You said common humans wore it prior to the crusade, but that's not exactly descriptive.

>>52272558
Different guy. I think there are multiple types of power armor.

Space Marines use the Black Carapace, which makes them one with their armor and makes them perhaps the most adept at using it. They can benefit from its enhancements more, and have faster reaction times.

All other non-Carapace users can still use power armor, its just marginally inferior. They'll never be as fast or strong as a SM, but they still get your usual suite of power armor benefits, as the armor reads their muscle twitches and maybe any standard neuro-ports they may have.

The Black Carapace just takes an already good concept and buffs it out. Like a gaming PC to a standard one.

>>52272499
>You don't have a leg to stand on Anon.
Matter of fact, I have two of them, they're quite serviceable.

>It clearly is a difference of lore interpretation, Power Armor is being utilized by common humans prior to the Crusade, during the Crusade and AFTER the Crusade, by Human Empries, the Silent Sisters followed by the Sisters of battle.

Well, I think I missed the part where your dudes have lower initiative and strength than normal, considering they're interfacing with an armour that's clearly not made for them.

Regular humans have power armour, but it's not as good as Space Marine armour, again, no physical augmentation, no linked auto senses, in many cases not even life support systems at all. Not all forms of powered plate are made equal.

It's even mentioned in 40k fluff that in order for an inquisitor to be equipped with termie armour, kit needs extensive artificer-made modifications to make up for a human body, and even then, it will never function as well as with an actual Astartes.

>>52272592
Unless you're Mechanicum, at which point you just become power armour.

>>52272581
>No skin off my or anyone else's back.
Anon, if this was the case, people in this thread wouldn't be screaming badwrongfun.
This is almost as bad as trying to get 40k players to accept that the grimdark paradise they think the game is is not actually true.

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>>52272567
>Brother artillerist, such accuracy...how do you do it?
>Quite simple, my bitter brother. If you're half blind, you'll only roll half the dice for scatter .^)

>>52272617
Well yeah, but if you're willing to replace your entire body's skin and muscles with bone-bonded armour plate or just plain mechanics you don't have quite the same interface issues. Quite hard to tell whether a Magos is actually wearing armour or just looks that way normally.

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>>52272622
>hhg is being autistic about armor

I'm shocked. But if you are the anon proposing the TW blackshields, just goddamm do it.

Personally, I don't give a damn about how special snowflake your force is, just stop fishing for (you)s and shitting up the thread because of it.

You asked what people thought, they didn't like it. Dislike is the bread and butter of this site, so don't be shocked, and don't keep an ended conversation going, especially when it's this stupid

>>52272504
i do as follows:

Primer: White

Base coat Ultuan Grey (i prefer to spray through an air brush but brush painting is fine as well.


recess shade: Nuln oil OR i have started to use a Very fine (.005mm) black marker instead, it gives it an almost anime/ cartoon look to the white scars that i like.

edge highlight (optional) just White scar or Dead White from VMC.

Red is mephiston Red then edge highlight with evil sunz scarlet or wild rider red, can't remember right now) i find an extreme highlight of orange doesn't look good on it.

i don't personally put gold on my white scars but instead i use Vallejo Liquid copper in the areas where it would normally be gold. i find the works nice with the scheme. do a shade or Rikeland fleshshade over it and neaten up the areas after.

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>>52272610
HOLY SHIT ARE YOU BLIND?
-> >>52272571
>Astartes power armour needs the Black Carapace to interface with bundle bundles and autobundles
Yes it does! Which is why people without Carapaces would be Initiative 3 with -1" to charge and Run distances and be unable to Sweep Advance! Which is even slower than a regular guardsman, it's neckbeard speed.

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>>52272639

>>52272719
Sounds neat. Any pics?

Oh, and WSanon, be careful with the Ulthuan. Make it almost too thin, because it THICCens out and blots really easily.

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>>52272706
>tfw you do like anon's Chymeriae, provide citations in an effort to bring the thread back to speed and do fish for (You)s, but are given none because faggots have tunnel vision

>>52271611
>>Courage and Honour
>The Warlord has the Fearless special rule
Why is that people keep forgetting that Paladin of Glory exists?

>>52272762
Nice!

>>52272779
I actively try to avoid it. Sounds too EC for my taste.
Change it if you please.

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30k Custodes List is called Talons of the Emperor.
40k Custodes List is called Talons of the Emperor.

The names are identical, so by RAW you can use the 30k Talons list in 40k, and the 40k list in 30k, as they slot in perfectly with each other.

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>>52272784
After being so starved for (You)s, I don't even know how to feel anymore.

>>52272829
I don't even mean to cause drama. I underestimated out collective autism.

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>>52272639
>>52272752
A disturbing number of my Bitter Boys are being turned into memes.

>>52272799
>being an upstanding and inspiring symbol of the great crusade
>too EC for my taste
Are you a Word Bearer?

>>52272720
>Wearing PA without the carapace.
>Lower initiative and speed.
>Yet somehow strength and resilience equal to that of a Custodes.

Sick fluff dood, I bet you fluff like all day, everyday.

Can't wait to read your very original back stories and check out those golden daemon winning models!

kys

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>>52272843
It's not just you.

>>52272896
Thunder Warriors where stronger and more resilient than Space Marines.

Fact.

Consider myself KILLED.

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>>52269671
Just gave these fuckers a wash.

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>>52272902
We've all been through that, brother.

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>>52272843
You mean you don't do it on purpose?
>>52272885
Remove WBs. But enhanced Combat resolution, come on, doesn't it sound like EC rules to you? Fulgrim? Rylanor? Phoenix termies?
Also, being an inspiring symbol isn't something an IW/DG could easily achieve. I'd sooner cause Fear.

>>52272935
>Fulgrim? Rylanor? Phoenix termies?
Siggy-Diggy, Dorn, Telemechrus, Endryn Har, Garro...

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>>52272935
I mea, pic related was made after I posted some progress on Tartaros shoulderpads.

I wasn't asking for it, but hell, I'll take it. It's a compliment for me.

>>52272981
The Anon that created that is an inspiration to us all.

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>>52272981
I was seriously going to post that pic, but went with the other one instead.

>>52272974
Difference is you can bring the first three together but the ones you mentioned can only be brought one at a time. Even Siggy and Dorn, since that part of Siggy's rules only activate when he's the warlord, which isn't possible if Dorn is also there.
And Telemechrus is a fucking copy, like all UM stuff is.

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>>52272981

>>52273035
Two of the first three, Rylanor is a loyalist.

>>52272902
Love this conversion, never got the hate. Really brings wolves back to their vikingness an away from the wolfishness.

>>52271148

Figured it would be fluffy for Iron Warriors. I might think about cutting one from each unit for another 15-man Tactical Squad. I'm wanting to do the Ironfire properly, where I just constantly put down tokens and run my guys in while the artillery and tanks support.

>>52272912
If gw/fw ever does rules for thunder warriors, I imagine a custodes stat line with ws/bs/I 4 and ld8 with 3+ armor. It would make them more potent in assault than marines and generally tougher overall, while being equal in shooting and while not being custodes powerful.

I could also imagine some rules that demonstrate their instability, both physically and mentally.

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>>52273098
Pffffft, early crusaaaade anon. Fulgrim wielding the superior Fireblade. It's cooooooool :^)

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>>52271148
Quad Phosphex Launchers
A quick way to lose your friends
In the Creeping Death

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>>52269671

I just finished a maniple of Vultarax, part of a god-awfully huge backlog. They were incredibly fun to paint, and I can't wait to see how they perform on the tabletop. At no point were they a slog, even assembly lining them. I'll probably go back one day and revisit the base, put some grass and happy little bushes on them, but for now they're fieldable. I think that it may be wiser to split the maniple up rather than have one giant 500 point flying fist roaming the battlefield, though. Three haywire shots per robot can be spread around, and not wasted on rhinos and stuff.

>>52273093
I just imagine Perturabo saying that in a very Russian accent.

>>52273244
Should add "comrade" after "today" and replace "have faith" with "njet problem."

>>52273238
>I think that it may be wiser to split the maniple up rather than have one giant 500 point flying fist roaming the battlefield, though. Three haywire shots per robot can be spread around, and not wasted on rhinos and stuff.
Well of course. Overkill isn't needed unless the meta is full of Spartans and such.
...what about a few squadron of two Vultarax, though?

>>52273238
How about some shading, highlights and weathering? The bases could use more detail too because right now your models simply look basecoated.

>>52273316
But "have faith" is the whole joke.

>>52273238
I'd give them a wash and a highlight but other than that it's a really neat job.

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>>52273316
"Have faith, Word Comrade"

Anyone know how to get in touch with the recaster Alpharius?

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>>52273320
>>52273358

I'll probably bring them to a homie to see his opinions on washes or fine detail, since he saved one of my Magi Dominus with just a wash. Weathering, however, is right out of the question. I like my models looking assembly-line fresh, not grimy and dirty. That ends up happening naturally as the models get tossed about.

>>52273317

I'll be posting my list later when I make it. It probably needs some work. My current 2k Legio Cybernetica list for an event this weekend is 12 guys and no scoring units .

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>>52273400
>how to get in touch with the recaster Alpharius?
I am Alpharius
It's too much Alphammemes for me

>>52273444
>That ends up happening naturally as the models get tossed about.
>I weathered them with cheeto powder to represent their battles defending Titan, such is the effect of methane snow on the armour
Nice IV trips

>>52273320
>>52273358

Shas sometimes posts in WIP general, and we hate him there. He has found the holy grail, a garish GI-Joe color scheme that highlighting somehow makes worse.

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/hhg/, I have a problem. Do I make a list of Custodes allied with Fists, or Fists allied with Custodes? I have a veteran squad of Fists assembled and ready to go, and 5 Custodes with spears. I just got 10 new marines and 5 custodes the other day.

I want to do a Siege of Terra inspired list, but I'm really not sure where to take it.

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>>52273490

I don't think using organic material in models is a good idea. Wouldn't that rot? I mean, I've used natural sand and rock shards in my bases, but organic material could cause problems. It would be like grabbing leaves from outside to put on elf/eldar models.

>>52273346
But in Soviet Russia, you don't have anything.

>>52273238
Holy flat paint job batman.
What are you afraid of washes?
Or making models that don't look like cartoony shit?

>>52273562
>not growing cress on the bases of your elves, and bonsai on the larger bases.
Guess how I can tell that you're a filthy casual?

>>52273552
How big is the army gonna be? Honestly, I feel like it's good either way. If you want to run a Tribune you need to make Custodes the primary since they have to be at least 2000 points, but otherwise the list is almost purpose built for the restrictions of the allied detachment since one of each slot is plenty.

On the other hand, if you do primary Custodes there's a few things you can do with LA but not a ton. Bubble wrap a quad gun squad, stick in some anti-air, maybe just a bunch of bolter dudes to add more scoring (although honestly you're better off just using Sisters for that since they're so cheap, infiltrate for free and are fearless).

>>52273678
I suppose I'd be aiming for 3000 points as an end goal. I'll probably end up with Fists as the primary detachment, since they have a lot of toys to bring and a lot of slots to fill. The Custodes will most likely be 2 troop squads, shield captain, Achillus dread, and a caladius tank.

It's mostly for fluff, but I want to steer towards an army that has the potential to accomplish something.

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>>52273609

Truly, I am not worthy

>>52273238
>the battlefield is a literal shithole

>>52273552
I'd go fists as the primary detachment, simply because the average unit costs less so you'll probably get more use out of the extra FOC slots.

>>52273232
So let it be written
So let it be done

>>52273370
The entry about the terminator has serious grammatical issues, or is it just me?

>>52273232
What is that expression trying to convey?

>>52273761
Don't ignore the jetbikes as a potential option, the D3 lascannons they can take make them a very deadly and versatile vehicle/elites hunter. They're almost like a Riptide split up into little pieces if you think about it - 2+/5++, MTC, T6, 6 wounds in a squad, can move 12" and assault move 2D6"... shit, honestly better than a Riptide as long as you read the gun upgrade as having the original as well as the upgrade.

Granted, the models need to come out, but I don't think it's gonna be too long before they do.

Depending on how you wanna do the army it's also worth considering doing one squad in a transport just to take the transport for the guns. It's honestly a really good tank.

>>52273791
I thorpe it was fine, myself.

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>>52273809
That's my natural expression, so it depends on the person

>>52273780
Good point.

>>52273870
Might take 2 carriers instead of the tank, actually. They seem fine as hell, and the golden boys need their metal boxes. Let my Fists do the heavy anti-armour work.

>>52272188
>Should I run S5 T5 Space Marines and have no narrative in mind?
I don't think many opponents will care, even if you do have a narrative.

>>52273778
>I will be sure to include that in the rolls of honour for this campaign.

>>52272188
The black carapace is required for using space marine power armor. Mk III is space marine power armor. There is normal human power armor that doesn't require the carapace and also doesn't have all the benefits of marine armor like strength enhancement and sensors, but those are in normal human sizes and not in thunder warrior sizes.

>>52273238
>>52274076
>on closer inspection sir, it seems the battlefield is, in fact, made entirely out of some melted sweet dairy-cacao product

>>52273909
How did you paint the face?

>>52274115
Guy, "Note that a Space Marine needs the Black Carapace to use his Power Armour to its maximum capabilities, but general power armour technology itself does not need this implant in order to function. The Sisters of Battle, for example, as well as some Inquisitors or wealthy functionaries such as Rogue Traders, also wear Power Armour. However, since their central nervous systems are not linked directly to their armour's Machine Spirit as a Space Marine would be, movement is cumbersome in comparison to the grace and natural movement afforded by Astartes power armour, and the suit is likewise less capable of providing bio-monitoring and auto-treatment functions."

>>52274115
>maximum capabilities

>>52273968
Well the tank is flat out underpriced if you compare it to a Sicaran, so it's not like it's bad. You're definitely getting a lot of bang for your points. The carrier models are also a lot more expensive than the tanks.

If you do want to get the tank I'd also wait until the new gun comes out. For only 15 points it's pretty much flat out better unless your meta involves lots of jetbikes.

>>52274115
>Implying power armor has one size

Wrote a renegade militia list up for my next major project. Going to be kitbashing the shit out of all the infantry. Any C&C welcome.

HQ
Force Commander 145pts
- Cyber Familiar
- Iron Halo
- Tainted Flesh
- Feral Warriors

Rogue Psyker 60pts
- Alpha Psyker

Rogue Psyker 35pts

TROOPS
Levy Squad 125pts
- 50 models
- Additional Attack
- Close Combat Weapons

Levy Squad 125pts
- 50 models
- Additional Attack
- Close Combat Weapons

Levy Squad 125pts
- 50 models
- Additional Attack
- Close Combat Weapons

Militia Infantry Squad 65pts
- Meltabombs
- Lascarbines/Autoguns

Militia Infantry Squad 65pts
- Meltabombs
- Lascarbines/Autoguns

Gorgon Heavy Transport 320pts
- Two Twin Linked Lascannons
- Armoured Ceramite

HEAVY SUPPORT
Malcador Heavy Tank 280pts
- Demolisher Siege Cannon
- Siege Armour
- Dozer Blade

Malcador Heavy Tank 265pts
- Twin-linked Lascannon
- Lascannon
- Lascannon Sponsons

Mutant Spawn 260pts
- 10 models

LORD OF WAR
Baneblade 610pts
- Pair of Sponsons
- Super-Heavy Command Tank

Jump dreadnought when?