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>>52247093
Hammer
Saber
Vandal
Voodoo

Does anyone have the Soldier duties that were added in Forged in Battle? All the scans seem to be missing that page for some reason.

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>>52247328
>What do your characters do for fun?
Alcohol, dick jokes, gravball, combat jacks, shitposting on the holonet, playing starfighter miniature games, singing girly pop music in unison, watching strong pornography, and fucking around with surplus supplies.

You know, your average space military PC party.

>>52247328
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>What do your characters do for fun?
Crokinole, which is a thing that exists in canon

>>52247748
My bad, I just copied from the last thread without looking it all over.

>>52247328
>What do your characters do for fun?

More gambling than is either sane or healthy.

My first X-Wing tournament since January is in a week. There are three lists I'm considering running, which one sounds the best?

1.
>Rey
>>Determination
>>Finn
>>Kanan Jarrus
>>New Falcon title
>>Smuggling Compartment
>>Inertial Dampeners
>>Countermeasures

>Norra Wexley
>>Expertise
>>Tail Gunner
>>R2-D2
>>Alliance Overhaul
>>Vectored Thrusters

2.
>Wedge Antilles
>>Swarm Tactics
>>R2 Astromech
>>Integrated Astromech

>Biggs Darklighter
>>R4-D6
>>Integrated Astromech

>Captain Rex
>>No upgrades

>Jess Pava
>>R2-D6
>>Swarm Tactics
>>Integrated Astromech

3.
>Biggs Darklighter
>>R4-D6
>>Integrated Astromech

>Captain Rex
>>No upgrades

>Jess Pava
>>M9-G8
>>Integrated Astromech

>Braylen Stramm
>>R3-A2
>>Gunner
>>Alliance Overhaul

>>52248448
Could you have written this in a way that takes up more room?

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>>52248448
Wedge, not out of any sort of optimality, but because he's Wedge. Do it for him, anon.

>>52248704
Yes, I could have put more spaces between the lines.
>>52248737
I almost did well with that list the last time I used it (which was also the first). I made the mistake of not shooting the Starkiller Base Pilot with the title (but not Kylo himself) first.

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>>52247328

Hey guys, first time anon for SW here. I'm gonna be doing my first session today or tomorrow and I'm still figuring things. Any tips on things that first-time GMs often miss or forget? I'm reading over the rulebook again now.

I'll dump some pics I've been collecting for inspiration, in recompense!

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>>52248899
First-time GM, sorry!

>>52248899
>>52248920
Which system?

>>52248899
Which system?

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>>52248927
>>52248929

Buh, my bad! I let my players pick between all three books. So one is a Mirialan Artisan, another is a Human Bodyguard, and the third is a Droid Thief. The Artisan is using Morality and Obligation rules, while the other two are just using Obligation.

Might be a little complicated but it just made sense given the characters people wanted to be.

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>>52249038
Er, to more clearly answer your question - technically it's a mix between Force and Destiny and Edge of the Empire. No Age of Rebellion elements.

Sorry for all the mistakes!

>>52249038
So it's FFG Star Wars, then, as opposed to the older d20/d6 ones.

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>>52249053
Avoid RAW starfighter combat if you can. Without houserules and squadron rules, it's ridiculously lethal, even compared to the films.

>>52249061
Yes. Sorry. I didn't realize there were older systems until I checked the OP so I thought you were asking about which book.

>>52249071
Luckily they don't have a starfighter to begin with, so that's likely to be their first quest! They've been using ferries or whatever to get around.

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>>52249096

>>52248448
It depends on what you're more comfortable flying. If there's a list there that you've flown more often than the others, then take that list. Familiarity with your list is more important than the raw power of your list.

Assuming you're equally experienced piloting all three, list one looks the most competitive, but list two looks like the most fun. It's a tournament, and all the other guys will be bringing out their most bullshit meta-net crap to try and win, so don't feel bad about optomising the shit out of your list.

>>52248704
How fucking new are you? This is the standard way that lists have been formatted on /tg/ since day dot. I can't imagine how badly your autism would have been triggered if he'd included the point costs too.

For my first character so far, I wanted to make a Commando Droid Commando that disguised itself as an organic.

However, considering the other players seem to want to use very exotic species, and the GM's told us that we'll be interacting with the Empire a fair bit, I feel tempted to use something more normal, namely a Pantoran because I really like Pantorans. Thoughts?
The other two players will be using that one bird-man species, and depending on if we're going "Bounty Hunter" or "Space Truckers", either a Talz or a Dug.

>>52249177
I mean, I'm not a fan of the whole X-Wing thing in general. I get that it's a game and truly belongs here, but discussing lists and dials and whatever detracts from the regular SW RPG discussion.

So my autism is like 11/10. Anyway, carry on.

Is X-wing Writefag around?

>>52248899
Nice digits. Are you a first-time GM in general or just for this system? If it's the latter then here's my EotE advice:
Make sure you can find ways to use advantage and threat creatively, it's one of the biggest strengths of the system but it's also one of the hardest elements for people new to the system. You'll also want to keep in mind that Obligation should be fluid; the players will want to get their obligation as low as possible unless they're murder-hobos and you should let them lower it, but you should also put them in situations which will lead to their obligation going up as well.

>>52249545
Just for this system. I'm pretty experienced when it comes to GMing in general, despite what it may think from that comedy of errors.

Yeah, I'm SUPER excited to get my hands on the advantage and threat system. I've basically been playing that way for years, it's nice to have a system that codifies it.

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>>52249569
Forgot my picture.

>>52248737
Speaking of Rogue Leader, what upgrades work best for him? I've had some interesting results with Expertise/R2 Astromech/Vectored Thrusters, but I'm uncertain if that's his best option.

>>52249569
That's good, this system could be tricky for people who aren't used to DMing or who think everything should have a binary succeed/fail result. Some advice for your specific party composition: the bodyguard is a pretty combat-heavy spec but artisan and thief have no combat skills and both generally emphasize stealth. This can be tricky, since when faced with a "shoot it or find another solution" situation, the bodyguard will want to shoot and the others will want to not shoot. There's no one way to work around this but I'd generally advise you to design encounters that need both combat and non-combat methods to be resolved.

>>52249610
Right. The bodyguard is specifically in the party for when things go south. He's got a few skills outside of combat - Negotiation and Cool, since he serves as the Artisan's "agent" for getting gigs - but is basically their muscle. The character is being roleplayed as 'compassionate' though so I don't think he'll end up being a shoot-first kinda character.

As a GM, I generally present scenarios as "roleplay, with action as consequence or shortcut". (Action not necessarily being combat.) If the players fuck up roleplay, or decide to not opt for it, then the action begins.

I also will probably emphasize more multilayered / complicated fight scenes such that Stealth and other Skills remain important. Stuff like chase scenes, fighting over a mcguffin, a fight in a factory where the controls let someone control the machinery, etc.

>>52249534
Yes. I've been posting as an anon these past few weeks due to a lack of actual writefaggotry.

>>52249600
I personally prefer R2 Astro + EU + Predator/PtL. Simple and reliable.

>>52249659
Gosh dang I wish the planets in the book had actual coordinates listed. The map has a coordinate grid. Why not include coordinates?

>>52249716
Does anyone know where the heck Florrum is on the map? Been looking for ages. The book says it's Outer Rim but I can't find it. And the coordinates on Wookieepedia don't line up with the book.

>>52249988
Wherever the hell it needs to be, Star Wars is better without maps anyway.

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>>52250013
Yeah, I've honestly been considering just skipping out on the map. Problem is I don't want to contradict myself, and a map is a simple way to not have that happen. It also means my players can reference it.

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>>52250061
There's one map I've found that I like, I honestly hate it when maps have to be spaced over a whole galaxy. Damn writers not having a sense of scale and Lucas being himself.

>>52250117
Ah, this is much easier to read. Thank you.

For what it's worth, I've located Socorro (Q-17) and Bogden (M-08) on the FFG map if anyone else is looking for those.

>>52249988
>>52250187
I don't have the FFG map handy, but for reference, Florrum is not far off the Perlemian Trade Route.

On >>52250117 this guy's map, it's about dead center in R-5, or it would be if it were labeled.

Check out http://www.swgalaxymap.com/ for one that's really detailed and can be zoomed in and out and has links to the Wook for sectors, planets and hyperspace routes.

>>52250236
Thank you SO much! I was wondering why I couldn't find it! Geez! It's just literally not labelled!? Geez...

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>>52248899
Make sure you involve the PC's more than say you would in other systems, have them describe their success, you mostly arbitrate their failures and other complications.
As an EotE GM you are something of a storyteller/difficulty setter, rather rules lawyer and enforcer- so the PC's get a roll, tell you what they where trying to do and if it 'suits' the story and dice result, then fuck it- run with it and have fun.

>>52250061
There's a good online version here-
http://www.swgalaxymap.com/

Also links (for better or worse) to wookipedia, I find it really handy

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>>52250348
Oh no worries on that, I've played systems where that's the norm. (PBTA systems) I'm super pleased that this system carries over the player agency!

>>52250402
I think it carries the 'fast' movement of the films fairly well as an RPG, maybe not enough granularity for people being weaned off D20 systems and it doesn't do ship combat as well as it could (fixes in the OP's links to house rules)
But, it does the force, light/darkside thing actually the best out of all the previous systems.

Oh, a 'where the fuck is what' link too-
http://swrpg.viluppo.net/

>>52250348

FFG RPG dice are probably one of the best "ah fuck it" mechanics I've ever seen, it does help with a pulpy, half improvised feel like you're scribbling that space action serial script on some coffeeshop napkins, and sometimes the actors have to just make shit up because they can't read what you wrote.

You can transition from like "oh, you just have a pleasant ninja like walk in the woods" to "it's fucking pouring with rain and there's a space bear trap wrapped around your leg and angry space rednecks coming at you" with some rolls.

As a GM, I personally enjoy the difficulty of "triumph, but despair".

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>>52250506
>"triumph, but despair".

Yes, you are mighty and murder ALL of the stormtroopers with your big gun, they are dead and bleeding!
Oh, and they've called for backup because someone murdered all the stormtroopers...
>clank

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>>52250457
Oh, excellent. Thank you so much!

>>52250506
Yeah! The dice mechanic is what totally sold me on this system. It's ingenious.

Also, mind if I ask for some more help on choosing the starting planet for my crew? A bit of background: the Artisan has a training saber and a goal of restoring it to a lightsaber, as well as collecting Jedi artifacts and lore; and the Bodyguard is an outcast Antarian Ranger, who realized the Artisan was hiding Force powers and thinks she's her ticket to being accepted back into the Rangers. (They aren't doing well.)

If things go according to what I expect, I think their eventual goal is to reach Antar 4 (N-12). So I was thinking of starting them relatively far from Antar 4 on Florrum (R-5), since it has the whole thing with the downed Jedi training ship (cool) and its a desert planet (neat homage to the movies) while still having a distinct difference from the movies.

On the other hand, it might be too convenient for them to start on a planet with a downed Jedi training ship, and it's a desert planet, which could feel repetitious. I was also considering Bogden (M-8) since it has the really cool worldbuilding detail of all the moons in close proximity, and it seems like a good place to do mechanics work and not go unnoticed. It's in the Inner Rim, but it's pretty lawless. However, it's also quite close to Antar-4 (which means less side-adventures in-between the two, which isn't necessarily a bad thing).

Any opinions? Or even alternate suggestions on what would make a good starting planet for a mechanic and her crew who don't want to be recognized?

>>52250582

>"Well, you've killed all the thugs Garbo the Hutt sent after you... Unfortunately they were standing in front of the bar. Which is now on fire. Because you set all the alcohol on fire. The bartender would be asking you to leave, but he is also on fire. You could call a fire brigade to be here soon, but they probably work for Garbo. And if you don't deal with this situation soon, you will be on fire."

>>52250655

I mean, I love Bounty Hunter so my first instinct is Bogden, because who knows if there are some left over Bando Gora rolling around and that's a GREAT way to tempt your players and throw them into the possible contact with the Dark Side in a classic adventure fashion.

>"Oh sure, there was an evil cult up on that there grave moon. Think they were led by a witch or something."

If your Artisan player is anything like my first artisan player, the chance for force paperweights will be too great to resist, spooks be damned. (This guy picked up a holocron and a creepy bird mask of a TOR-era Sith corpse once and still kept it in his back pocket after it was obvious that her unquiet spirit was hitching a ride in it)

Even with averaged hyperspace time, and lanes, etc, you can still hand waggle that a lot in that area as GM, especially if they have to rely on NPCs to navigate and transport them, so do what you feel is more interesting. Both options can work, and if you can waggle them to both work in the same campaign, that's great too.

>>52250768
Oh yeah, they will be in the same campaign. The Artisan's explicit goal is to collect Force artifacts and history, to know as much as she can. So Florrum's rumors of a downed Jedi ship will be a good plot hook later on.

The Atarian Ranger background for the Bodyguard ties into that - the Rangers not only seek out Jedi, but also need to preserve Jedi teachings and history for the new generation. The Bodyguard plans to sell the Artisan on the importance of visiting Antar 4 by mentioning they know many things about Jedi ruins and sites... and even the means to making the Artisan's training saber into a full-fledged lightsaber...

The Droid Thief is the Artisan's childhood droid / accomplice who wants to live a life full of heists again. (They used to steal to survive.) So the mission of recovering Jedi history will appeal to the droid.

>>52250768
I didn't know about Bando Gora though. Thats perfect!

I might also just present my players with the choice of where to start, too. Inform them of Jedi ship / Bando Gora, and their locations, and see which they pick.

My plan is also to have their job on the planet get complicated, entangling someone's Obligation, and push the Artisan into having to reveal her Force abilities. So if anyone has any ideas of how to turn a mechanics job into an adventure, I'd love to hear it.

I was thinking sabotage by means of murdering the mechanic, where the client's rival gang or bounty hunter or something intends to hinder the client by killing anyone repairing their ship.

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Interesting artists take on the B-wing

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>>52252982

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>>52252995
armoured shuttle

>>52252982
If it had a second S-foil on the same side as the one already present, you'd have a decent K-wing.

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>>52253043
yeah that would work, symmetry isn't a big thing for some SW ships though

>>52249680
Anything new on the horizon or have you been hit with the Writers Block sledge?

>>52249600

I've always wondered if there was a good way of making Outmanouver work on him, but the T-65 just doesn't have that kind of manouverability to make it work.
Maybe if you paired it up with a targeting astromech?

>>52249600

This works: https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Rebel%20Alliance&d=v4!s!0:49,-1,2:-1:20:;82:170,193,69:-1:20:;84:34,163:-1:20:&sn=jub%20jub%20commander

>>52250895
Mechanic secretly uses their ship as a drug mule and builds in a smuggling compartment he doesn't tell them about.
It's full of glitterstim when they're stopped by a rival gang/clan who were tipped off.
Now they have angry criminals on board, a stolen cache of what looks like glitterstim, and the proximity alarms say an Imperial patrol ship just dropped out of hyper

>>52253465
Indefinite hiatus due to other matters. Haven't had the time to write and unsure if I'll have any time to write in the near future.

>>52254303
As someone trying desperately to write their own shit, I feel that.
It's a shit time.

I hope things settle down for you man.

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>>52254310
Likewise. No worries, I fully intend to continue writing once I'm less busy.

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>>52254327
Nice.

Kinda funny really, the thing im trying to write is actually a sci-fi novel highly inspired by the fact that Wraith Squadron are non-canon and Allston isnt around to write more. I need my piss-taking space hot shots.

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>>52254343
>piss-taking space hot shots
Go on.

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>>52254347

Well it's about a squadron of 'elite' fighter pilot/commandos thrown into something they're 100% unprepared for and trying to come out on top and alive.
If I ever finish it and somehow get it published, I'll shitpost it here.

>>52254353
Godspeed, anon. Hope it pulls through, and if it's for the Star Wars IP, hope legal bullshit doesn't fuck you over.

>>52254361

Oh nah, it's a homegrown semi-hard sci-fi universe.

I'd love to write an official Star Wars story, obviously about X-wing jockeys, but I feel the chances of that are minimal.

Then again if someone who writes as badly as Wendig can get in, the sky's the limit.
I just need to befriend half of Disney's story team and I'm in with a shot!

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>>52254367
>writes as badly as Wendig

Back in my day, young-uns got beaten with a cane if they wrote like that!
Wendig would have been dead by primary school

>>52254400
I fucking wish.
I work as a proofreader and editor and holy shit even reading excerpts of his novels makes me cry piss and piss tears.

>>52254423
Literally the only SW novel I've ever put down and not bothered reading the rest of it and I've chewed through some real shit sandwiches of SW literature over the years.
Simple fact is, its not english as we know it. I don't know what it is, but no sir I don't like it.

>>52254447
Exactly.
It's got Wedge goddamn Antilles as a primary character in it and I still can't bring myself to read it, even for him.

>>52254455
I liken it to something being not broken, then trying to fix it when no one really asked for it in the first place. Shit even the most bored writers and linguists will go out and make up a fictional language if they're really desperate for something to do.

Maybe if its been released in other languages, we can get those and re-translate it back into non-gibberish English?

>>52254485
First, you'd have to find a translator who wouldn't commit suicide after laying eyes on that literary abomination.

>>52254485

It's just a weird experimental style.
Which is totally fine with me.

It's just that Star Wars has always had a sort of 'set' house style, even if it wasnt actually an official one.
So suddenly we have this massively important series of books which deal with one of the biggest events of the new canon (the utter destruction of the empire in less than fifteen minutes, retarded though it is), and it's given to a guy who writes it like I wrote essays when I was 7.

Like, what the fuck is that. Who DOES that?
His best friends on the disney story team, that's who.
It is genuinely depression how often it comes down to who you know.

Just watched the new Rebels episode. Damn old Obi-Wan knows some moves. I like how they made his Soresu style very Kendo-ish with his whole " the least possible amount of moves to end a combat" thing. The really managed to capture the old ANH Obi-Wan.

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>>52254487
Surely we have the technology to automatically translate text to different languages?

>>52254614
Its ok, Rogue One is released on DVD & Blue ray, soak up some of the pretty things that you missed in the cinema and forget where the bad man touched your brain.
Like Jyn's blaster pistol she 'found' and how its a P08 with some kind of big arse aluminium suppressor

>>52254908
At first I was surprised that the fight was that short, but when you really look at what happens, it's really well done: Obi-Wan switches to Qui-Gon's stance to bait Maul into using the same move he used on Qui-Gon: force the opponent to lower his saber, then hit him in the head with the hilt. Kenobi probably saw that move thousands of times in his mind and thought of a way to counter it, and even used this as a weakness.

I'm also really impressed with the Alec Guinness voice impression, it's so spot on it's almost disturbing.

>>52254994
My god I fuckinh LOVE her blaster pistol.

It's the only thing I use in Battlefront when I forget how disappointing it is and try it again

>>52254994
I ran pic related through https://badtranslator.xyz and got

"Tie wibbles, swaying in the air, scattered in the world, hunter-ceiling - zigzag pattern of the nozzle herkily accounts"

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>>52255041
forgot my damn pic like a scrub

>>52255041
>>52255050
And a couple of more times for good measure. It almost becomes readable after a while.

"Fig. wibbles, waving them in the air, spread all over the world, Hunters in the store, zig-zag, Price accessories herkily"

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>>52255050
We're getting there.

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>>52255039
Sadly don't have time to play any type of computer games.
Though, watching through and these glorious bastards covering their sectors on egress without having to be told, makes me tear up a little.

Could someone post the good cop and bad cop talents? I don't have my books on me atm.

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>>52255583
Thanks m8. Have to work on my detective character.

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>>52255675
No probs, I'm so fucking sleep deprived right now. Surprised I managed to remember which book it was in.
>Only a few more months and I'm convinced my kid will sleep through an entire night...

Does anyone have any ideas for callsigns for a scum/rebel pilot? I was thinking "Hot Jizz" for my hotac character

>>52256181
Maverick
Goose
Iceman
Viper
Jester
Vagabond
Vaquero
Fruity Rudy
Animal Mother
Pappy
Blondie
Tuco
Angel Eyes
Cipher
Blaze
Pixy

>>52256540
>Fruity Rudy
>Animal Mother
>Pappy
All Generation Kill, i like

>>52256181
WHOPPER JUNIOR
WHOPPER JUNIOR

>>52256181
Go mindlink with someone and call yourselves Mugsy and Bugsy

So how're the new books Catalyst and Rogue One prose-wise? Are they pretty good, or similar to a high schooler trying to reach the page requirements?

>>52256806
Or Pinky and the Brain.

>>52256181
>>52256540
>Pixy

He made it through a fight in a Headhunter, few years back. TIE laser fire blew his starboard wing right off, took out the engine too.
He made it through the dogfight, into hyperspace and back to Yavin IV all with only one wing.

Man's a legend.

>>52256806
Four gamorreans named after the teletubbies and only distinguishable by the crude shapes carved in their helmets and the colored wrappings on their axes

>>52256181
A couple actual nicknames of guys I knew that might be good if you have the right sense of humor
>Pegboard
>Cock Warrior
>Double Dog
>Ahab

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Aside from jizz wailing, what would be the standard go-to music that would exist in the Star Wars Universe? I'm thinking either 50s rock (for Prequel era) and 80s pop (OT) more than modern music.

>>52257276
Depends on the planet, people, and occasion, I'd say. Wes would have a playlist composed of nothing but Ewok festival music. Tycho would go for classy and classical. Cartann's national anthem would be "Danger Zone." U-wing gunners would croon "IT AIN'T ME" 24/7.

Baron Fel would regularly announce his entrances with this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C-mdFXKyBU

>>52257276
Post-avant jazzcore and progressive dreamfunk

>>52253000
...That;s actually near perfect for a Mekuun Monitor ship I've been working on, just needs another double turbo on the bottom maybe.

And bigger pursuit class engines

Space bump

>>52257512
>And bigger pursuit class engines
>Monitor

I'm getting some very mixed messages here.

>>52258928
Monitor with a short range chase capability Bolted on extra engines essentially. A patrol boat with one oversized turret.

>>52254136
Awesome, I love it. My plan was that it was sabotage, and it was a mystery as to whether it was the bounty hunter's partner, client, target, or rivals.

I like the smuggling operation idea, though.

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Hey guys so in my current FFG pre clone wars game (I'm gm) my players are bounty hunters that have recently been recruited by the sunguard and sent to kaleesh to aid Grievous against the Yam'Ri.... Played one game where they helped him take back shrupak temple but now I've got a writer's block... We want to do something involving destroying a Yam'Ri ammo shipment or something... and eventually some big showdown thoughts?

>>52254423
Wendig is the worst published author to ever get to write Star Wars, and he's competing with some really bad ones. KJA, for example.

>>52256181
Callsigns are given based on the most embarrassing thing in your jacket (paperwork), that you've admitted to someone, or that someone found out about you through other means.

Mine's "Sparky," and I'll never tell you why.

>>52259292
Twilight Sparkle figurine?

>>52259169
You could throw in republic or trade federation "observers" who are warming up to the yamrii

>>52255923
Alright, I gotta know, what was the origin for these helmets?

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>>52259516
Gunner helmets

>play first game of x-wing to learn the rules
>friend teaching me
>she brings Darth Vader in a TIE Adv and two Obsidian squad ties
>Ive got Lt Blount and 3 members of Tala squadron

TIES ARE IMPOSSIBLE TO HIT WITH Z95S KILL ME
LET ME REST

>>52259378
Yeah at the end I wanna toss in some Jedi sent to end the the violence against the Yam'Rii and Grievous will rip em to shreads. Maybe start his lightsaber collection too...

>>52259242
Kevin J Anderson is okay tier with mostly good ideas and a few REALLY bad ones. Kevin J Anderson with Rebecca Moesta is great YA adventure tier.

I'd take his brand of fast-moving crazy over Wendig's self-important wankery or Vonda N. McIntyre's glacier of boredom that is The Crystal Star.

>>52259975

I actually quite enjoyed hte Jedi Academy series when I was a teenager. They weere fun, even if back then I thought Kyp was an anus.

That said, I loved (and still do) Daala and Maw Installation and all that shit.

Sun Crusher dumb as fuck though.

>>52259863
To follow up, you could have the weapons shipment come from a corrupt politician who is trying to set up the bugs as the victims of the conflict.

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>>52259169
REMOVE HUK remove HUK
you are worst Huk. you are the huk idiot you are the huk smell. return to Huk planet. to our Yam池ii cousins you may come our planet. you may live in the zoo・ahahahaha ,Jedi we will never forgeve you. cetnik rascal FUck but fuck asshole Huk stink Jedi sqhipere shqipare..Huk genocide best day of my life. take a bath of dead Huk..ahahahahahJEDI WE WILL GET YOU!! do not forget The war .bugs we kill the king , bugs return to your precious Republic・hahahahaha idiot Huk and Jedi smell so bad..wow i can smell it. REMOVEHUKBAB FROM THE PREMISES. you will get caught. Kaleesh+Dooku+Bankers+Droid=kill JEDI・ou will genocide now/ Grievous alive on Kalee, Grievous making album of Kalee . fast Jizz Grievous Kalee. we are rich and have Droid now hahahaha ha because of Grievous・you are ppoor stink Huk・you live in a hovel hahahaha, you live in a yurt

Grievous alive numbr one #1on Kalee ・fuck the Yam池ii ,..FUCKk ashol huks no good i spit in the mouth eye of ur flag and planets. Grievous aliv and real strong cyborg kill all the Huk farm aminal with Jizz magic now we the Kalleesh rule .ape of the zoo chanceler Valurm fukc the great monster and lay egg this egg hatch and Jedi wa;s born. stupid baby form the eggn give bak our clay we will crush u lik a shell of bug. Kallee greattst plantet

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>>52259855
She sounds like a bad friend

>>52259855
I don't know what you're talking about, Blount hits TIEs 100% of the time he shoots at them.
Jokes aside yeah, it's not an amazing matchup since they've got the barrel rolls, the extra green and the evade, your best bet is taking target locks on the same target as often as possible and holding them until you can do TL+focus shots since that's pretty much the only thing you've got over them. You can also try to force them to fly past you since you've got a 1 straight and they don't but that hardly ever makes much of a difference.

>>52260752
>>52260762

Unsurprisingly for my first ever game, I eventually got wiped.

But i mean, this 4 man unit of Z-95s managed to kill Darth Vader, so in the long term they probably dealt the Empire a far larger blow than the loss of 4 headhunters would deal to the alliance.

So I definitely won in the grand scale anyway.

But yeah, 2 red versus 3 defence even before an evade token.
Fuck my life.

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I call this image: "Fuck the ENTIRE CONCEPT of transparisteel"

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>>52260920
And this image is "Outdated handheld blaster rifle vs A-Wing part 1"

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>>52260966
And for the grand finale!

>>52260920
>>52260966
>>52260981
As I've always said, Rebels is bullshit. Complete and utter bullshit.

>>52260848
Thats a huge dick move. She should have put you in t 65s

>>52261103

Oh nah man, I chose my ships.
I just wanted to have a full flight of 4 ships, and Z's seemed to be the easiest way to do it.

Bear in mind I had zero clue what I was doing or what anything meant and am a huge fag so was always going to have themed sqauds.

Im building some actual squads now I know what Im doing (somewhat) and im still being a fag with themed decks.
Disappointed I cant fit Wedge/Hobbie/Janson/Tycho into a 100 pointer though. Dream team.

>>52260966

Aren't the tusken guns a bit like bowcasters, solid slugs wrapped in plasma - which is why they can shoot up landspeeders and podracers?

>>52260981

Hey, A-Wing have munitions now. You can get all kinds of secondary explosions that way.

>>52261008

I mean, this setting has always been bullshit, there's magic laser swords in it for instance. No matter how you fluff that works, shit doesn't actually really work - at least not the way they're portrayed. It's disingenuous to pick on Rebels like it's some new thing, when we're coming up on 40 years of this bullshit.

>>52261288
I love running wes, wedge, and hobbie together

I wouldnt mind doing a cinematic game based on the death star or the bacta wars

>>52261423

That sounds great fun.

I've currently built a little squad of 3 X-Wings lead by a ridiculously pimped out Wedge, a wing of A-wings lead by Tycho, and then a 5 ship squad of A-wings to try and play with some sort of pack-tactics.
Might be fun.

Probably all severly underpowered and shit but yolo, etc.

Wes Wedge and Hobbie does look fun as shit though.

Also I'm right in remembering that Biggs is overused, right? He seems really powerful with pumped up shields and R2D2.
Should I embrance the cancer or avoid it

>>52261487
Imo he isnt that much of a cancer when it comes to the ordinance faq that gets around him. But he is the reason the t65 doesnt get a decent fix

>>52261535

Fair enough.
What's currently wrong with the x-wing then?

>>52259332
I'm way too old to be a brony.

>>52261733
You tried to stick your penis in an electrical socket?

>>52257248
now I gotta know the story behind those nicknames

>>52261707
It's got pretty shitty maneuverability with no s-loops, t-rolls, and no native barrel roll or boost so its not really good as a high PS arc dodge ace, it's got very average survivability with only 2 agility, 3 hull and 2 shields so it can't really compete in jousts, it's got 3 attack which is alright but not a good mix of upgrade slots to let it become a great alpha striker or consistent damage dealer, and its cheaper pilots are overpriced so it can't really do swarm stuff.

It's a jack of all trades in a game where most of the masters of one are just exponentially better than any amount of versatility can provide.

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>>52261920

Yeah it did kinda seem like it would suffer thanks to no true specializations.

My poor waifu.

>>52261332
>Aren't the tusken guns a bit like bowcasters, solid slugs wrapped in plasma - which is why they can shoot up landspeeders and podracers?
Not usually, they're most often just whatever junk they can salvage, old blasters, slugthrowers etc.

>>52262077
My X wing collection box is bursting past capacity but fuck it what should I get next.

Rebel Aces or a U wing?

Not interested in competition just games with my Dad.

>>52262053
T-85's are gonna be in TLJ so good luck to the 65

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>>52257248
Ahab?

>>52262106
Rebel Aces since it comes with some pretty fun and varied pilots. U-wing is just kinda boring.

>>52262227
Thankyou. I want more A's anyway.

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>>52262108

May she rest in peace.

Im laying, may she never rest. Do not go quietly into that long night, T-65.

Does anyone have rogue squadron made up for y wing epic play?

>>52261815
Double Dog was pretty simple, First Sergeant was yelling AY DEVIL DOG at him, except somehow he fucked it up and ended up coming out AY DOUBLE DAWG. People thought it was funny so they kept calling him that. Pretty boring story, I know.
Ahab was a Korean guy, used to get in arguments with the polish guy in the platoon about who hated communists more.
He got the name because he had this huge thing for fucking fat white chicks, so I joked about him being out harpooning white whales every weekend, and the other guys started calling him ahab after that
Pegboard got that one became he was always going on about extolling the virtues of pegging. We later ended up changing his nickname to deepthroat mike, but that's another story

Cock Warrior was definitely the most interesting. He was gay as fuck, and just went full out with it, he was that kinda guy. He had this running bet that he could out-fuck all the other single guys in the platoon on any given weekend, and he lost like twice in all the time I knew him. He was a complete animal, it was hilarious
He would get photos on his phone as proof and I swear he must have had hundreds of them by the end. One weekend, just to fuck with us, he gave his phone to the guy checking and counting (it was pegboard that week, I think, actually) and there's just two photos of this guy's cock in two hot chicks.
He got the name from this shitty metal band we saw at this shitty dive bar called "warriors of the nuclear dawn", so we joked that this guy was the "warrior of the nuclear cock", which got shortened to Cock Warrior
>>52262213
Nah, this was years ago

Okay so Im looking at maybe playing with Kyle flying the Moldy Crow, with Jan as crew.
Then flying escort, Garven Dreis.

Basically the plan here is to always have focus, forever. Couple of green moves at the start, and then whenever Garven spends focus he can throw it to the Crow, and then they can throw it back, or with Jan, they can just turn it into an Evade.

Does this sound vaguely workable?
It sounds cheeky to play at least, which could be fun. Obviously they'll need to stick close together to pass focuses around.

I've got 25 points left, was considering Airen Cracken to give out free actions for generating even more focus, or Jake Farrell in order to turn focus into being a zippy cunt.

>>52263035
Sounds like a cheeky list I would fly.

>>52259855
First lesson: don't build squads comprising 100% Z-95's.

>>52263884

I learnt it well, that's for damn sure.

>>52263247

Went with Jake on it becuase Cracken has to be at range one to pass out free actions and that range is a bit too restrictive.
Instead, an A-Wing ace who can speed around with extra focuses. Sounds good to me.

>>52260920
Well, I mean transparisteel was probably never going to come back anyway. And we've seen previous examples in TCW of people breaking what would have been described in Legends works as transparisteel, anyway, so it's not like this is somehow changing things simply to change them.

>>52255041
>swaying in the air, scattered in the world, hunter-ceiling
That's almost poetic

>>52263969
I can only remember a point-blank blast (Six inches or less) from a B2's wrist blasters going through a starship canopy. Not a fucking gaffi stick.

>>52264140
Aurra Sing fires several blaster bolts through the canopy of Slave 1.

>>52264160
At what range?

>>52264201
From the pilot's seat, so maybe a couple feet away. With a standard sidearm blaster, no less. Of course, both the blaster and lightsaber in the scene cause the canopy to spiderweb like they were physical objects, rather than melting.

>>52264140
Grievous takes out the windows of a capital ship with a simple electrostaff.

>>52261008
You're overeating a bit aren't ya?

>>52264224
>>52264304
From the inside, so who knows?

>>52264439
For tech powerlevels and durability Rebels is even more fucked than TCW.


Stories are okay but as someone who likes the balance of tech powerlevel it's fucking disgusting.

>>52253965
If you want an outmanuever Wedge, your best bet is to have someone else feed him a focus and then have him run with vectored thrusters for that sweet barrel roll.

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>>52259564
They're also similar to the WW2 USN talker helmet, they increased its size to pack in a huge set of headphones and a microphone
Either way, you end up a pretty goofy looking bastard

>>52262915
OK, I'm definitely using cock warrior as a NPC, next game

For mines in the FFG Rpg, they use the mechanics skill. Do you roll ahead of time when prepping the mine? Or when someone walks on it? They dont really explain how they are used mechanically.

>>52260920
>>52260966
>>52260981

Obviously he Rolled a despair.

>>52267210
I believe it's roll upon set up.

>>52263969
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Transparisteel

Except there's a literal canon page for it.

>>52264439
See >>52264486
Let's not forget in the previous episode we had a frigate explode because it was overloaded.. BY A FUCKING ASTROMECH DROID. An Astromech officially has more power than an Imperial spy frigate. Ebin.

>>52267639
>Let's not forget in the previous episode we had a frigate explode because it was overloaded.. BY A FUCKING ASTROMECH DROID. An Astromech officially has more power than an Imperial spy frigate. Ebin.
I choose to believe that was a censored version of the actual events. Because watching the entire crew fry to death as their cybernetics overloaded isn't exactly Y-7, or even TV14.

>>52267639
>>52267693
Alternatively they had the computer heatsinks venting into important parts of the actual ship's gear because the Gozanti is an old ass freighter design not made to house that much communications hardware.

This IS the OSHA-Free empire where only Palpatine's throneroom gets a guardrail.

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>>52254136
>>52250768
>>52250506
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>>52250117
>>52249610
>>52249545

Thanks everyone for the help. First session was a blast! My players ended up picking Bogden, and in helping an old bounty hunter friend of the Bodyguard, have become embroiled in an Imperial conspiracy regarding the bounty hunter's current target, and multiple competing rivals willing to sabotage the bounty hunter to get the bounty.

My players loved it, and I couldn't have done as well without all of your help. My Artisan is SUPER interested in Kohlma and the Bando Gora, so thank you for that suggestion!

Fun fact: Kohlma seems to be named off of Colma, CA, a famous necropolis with a 1000:1 ratio of dead to living people!

>>52257276
Rebels had 70s stuff playing on the space radio

Is there a good place to search planets with certain criteria?
I'm looking for a well populated mid to outer rim world that I can set up a government and criminal organization

>>52269651

You can look through http://www.swgalaxymap.com/ and just search out planets that fit.
A lot of mid-to-outer worlds will probably fit that, though.

>>52267639
I wouldn't trust the Wook in this instance, since it was never actually named in any canon material that I can think of - unless it's in Absolutely Everything You Need to Know About Star Wars or Ultimate Star Wars, both of which are known to have inconsistencies with canon material and drew content from Legends to fill in gaps.

Anybody have a guide for getting started with X-wing repaints?
I'm an experienced mini painter, but there's a lot about getting started repainting x-wing minis that I don't know about (ie. whether or not I should strip the minis before repainting, etc.).

>>52254994
>Like Jyn's blaster pistol she 'found'
Yeah, 'found' - while riffling Cassian's pack. It's worth noting that she took a look for signs he had a woman in his life while she was at it.

I wanted to tell /swg/ my goal for 2018.
I'm gonna try to win the X-wing world championship '18 and bring Trioculus into the game for all of you.
I've been practicing daily for the last 3 months or so, my mantra being "Don’t practice until you get it right. Practice until you can’t get it wrong."
I've been either winning every game I've played since starting this regimen or losing by no more than 3 hp.
Only reason I didn't enter any FFG tourney this year is that I wanted as much real, dedicated, practice under my belt before I step up to regionals.

>>52270316
I should note that I haven't played against any Dengaroo (as you know, last year's worlds winner) but I have high hopes that I can beat it under the right circumstances.

>>52270316
Dark Greetings. Your cause is noble. I'm double dipping on that goal, going to the Invitational and Worlds. Trioculus is worth it. I would say your best bet to git gud is to just get table time. Play a lot with a variety of lists against a variety of opponents. Don't be afraid to go to tournies, anything from a local 4 person event to regionals. Practice, practice, practice.

>>52270339
Also read the FAQ. Dengaroo is dead.

>>52270508
>Dengaroo is dead
Yeah, after looking at the FAQ, Manaroo is indeed dead. Dengar on the other hand is still really strong. I'd be surprised if he isn't in the top Scum lists in 2017 and 2018.

As for table time, I'm getting as much as I can and practicing solo on Tabletop Simulator. Probably putting 2 hours into solitaire X-wing on TTS per day and playing about 3 real games per week, since that's all I can manage with my current local group.

>>52270680
>solitaire x-wing on tts
Why doesnt swg have a games discord or some shit.
There must be niggers in here who want to fly x-wings but dont have the money / accessible flgs to visit and play at.

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>>52270271
That's a pretty typical woman thing to do though, they'll ratfuck your gear, phone, computer etc mostly out of curiosity rather than anything malicious. About the only thing they consider 'privacy' is a toilet and even then they'll probably try to carry on a conversation while you're in there.

>>52270316
Godspeed and may the dice be with you

>>52270707
There's a /tg/ discord, it's bretty shitty IMO, so I only post there once in a while. You can probably get some SW TTS games there though. Even now, people in world chat on TTS are looking for people to play SW Destiny with.

>>52270765

Yeah but would you really want to play with a fuckboy from tts world chat?

If I want to play with random tards from the net, I at least want to be able to scream DARK GREETINGS at each other first and not have anyone reak out.

Is it a dick move or illegal to bring a notecard to a tourney? Something like reminders on ship placement or what maneuvers to make in the first couple rounds? I think I'd find that incredibly helpful, but if it's against the rules or considered poor sportsmanship, fuck it.

>>52270938
Anyone who disallows things like that is a terrible TO

>>52270750
>About the only thing they consider 'privacy' is a toilet and even then they'll probably try to carry on a conversation while you're in there.
I hate this so much.

>>52270092
Quick wash off if they're dusty. Single coat of generic primer. Go nuts. Keep your paints very thin, or you'll lose the fine details on the model. Most of them are nothing but flat planes, so they're a breeze to paint.

>>52270316
Start a Patreon. Maybe people will sponsor your goal.

Also, have you read former world champs talking about the card creation process? It's less you get to design the card, more you give them a general idea of what you want and they make the card.

>>52271269
>It's less you get to design the card, more you give them a general idea of what you want and they make the card.
As long as it's Trioculus I could give a shit, desu.
I think the 2016 winner is gonna give us ObiWan (finally), so that's cool too.

>>52271288
>Obi-Wan
But Rebellion-era Obi-Wan didn't even do anything relevant to starship combat outside of Yavin. How would that work? Would he be a T-65 crew card that doesn't require a crew slot, whispering in the ears of pilots to use the Force?

>>52270680
Manaroo is fine, dude. She was in top 4 of both system opens this weekend. Dengar is strong, but without the lone wolf/overclocked/infinite focus from roo he's nowhere near the world beater he was. 3rd best jumpmaster.

>>52271434
>How would that work
"there are alternatives to fighting"
When tractor beamed, a ship with this crew upgrade is tractor beamed.

If your squad includes this crew upgrade, after losing a match, you can claim to have won, from a certain point of view.

But seriously, he might just have some minor force related buff like a worse, cheaper, palpatine.

>>52271523
he might just have some minor force related buff like a worse, cheaper, palpatine
Once per round, if this ship has been destroyed, you may change a friendly ship's die result to another die result. That die result cannot be modified again.

>>52271605
That's not half bad if the price is right.

>>52271523
>If your squad includes this crew upgrade, after losing a match, you can claim to have won,

I HAVE THE HIGH GROUND: if your ship uses more base pegs than other ships, add <Evade> to all defence rolls

>>52271508

I think this year were going to see more Kylo Ren, Palps is still going to be about, but not as much, Rebels will continue to use nothing but TLT's and/or K-Wings (maybe Nym if his ability is good, but a TLT with FireCon access would be worth it in and of itself).
Scum will see Attanni mindlink lists every-fucking-where now.

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>>52271634
>Rebels will continue to use nothing but TLT's and/or K-Wings
>tfw I play Rebs and still fly nothing but T-65s and As because they're my favorite starfighters
Is this what it's like to play nothing but Dan in Street Fighter?

>>52271634
>Rebels will continue to use the one thing they can win with
ok

>>52271652

Basically.

>>52271670

TLT's need a nerf. Why they didn't get one in the FAQ given how brutal they were to the Scum and Imperial top meta cards I do not know.

Like, give them some kind of usage cost, like the Synced needing a TL or... well maybe not as far as the Blaster Turret needing to spend a focus, but maybe just having it.
Hell, make it so it doesn't get a second shot off unless it's got a TL or something. It's still reliable damage, it's just less good on low PS ships now.

>>52271652

>TLTs and K-Wings

Im a noob, and I fucking detest the K-Wing and will never bring it, but are TLTs the cancer?
Should I avoid those?

Top goddamn taste on fighters though anon, you're a man of quality.

>>52271727

TLT's will do relibably 2 damage every turn to anything with less than 3 evade dice.
They are range 3, they slow the game down, and they have next to no downside or usage costs like the Synced or the Blaster Turret.

It's closest to the Ion Turret, which is only a point less, but does half damage, has only 1-2 range, is less reliable and only inflicts a single Ion token.
Or the Autoturret which has 1 range and only 2 attack dice, a lot cheaper price tag though.

Make it require a TL, or make it only 2 attack dice. Against 1 agility ships it will still probably do at least 1 damage, but it's not a dead fucking certainty anymore.

>>52271727
If you play rebs competitively, you're bringing TLT's or you're losing. full stop.
Now that every faction will soon have access to them (and will be bringing them) they're an auto-include.

>>52271719
>>52271786
How about making it like gunner where you only get the second shot if the first one misses? Lowers them to just a very reliable one damage though they'd maybe be slightly overcosted then.

>>52271786
>>52271798

That good, huh?
I figured I was just missing something and they had a drawback somewhere.

I wont be playing competetive, just with friends, so I guess ill be sparing with TLTs.

>>52272319
>be me
>casual game
>I'll be a nice guy and not bring TLT when I run Corran/Miranda outside of tourneys
>Literally cannot win without it.
Good luck, my friend.

>>52272346

Thanks senpai.
I fully expect I'll get my shit pushed in since my friends are both Imp lovers and probably going to gravitate towards that.
But I guess I'll see how I do.

Especially since Im probably going to be bringing T65s to support whatever I dont put TLTs on, since theyre my favourite ship ever.
Im fucked, arent I.

>>52271634
If Naboo and Tatooine are any indication of where things are going.

>Rebels
Kanan/Biggs, Miranda, stresshog, bomb Ks, generic swarm (Bs, Zs, Xs), Dash +1 (Miranda, Norra, etc), Rey, maybe some Corran

>Empire
Palp shitters rage-quitting, Defenders, RAClo, Quickdraw, Crack swarm, Palp Aces/Defenders in smaller quantities

>Scum
Torp scouts, parattanni, old man Fenn, mindlink stuff, thug lyfe, Ketsu +1 (Bossk, Asajj, Dengar, Boba)

>>52272496
As a reb player, last year's Corran/Miranda's what I've been running mostly. It's not the easiest list to fly, Corran takes some skill. But the regens and 1 turn damage output is worth it. putting out 11 damage dice in one turn between 2 ships is nothing to gawk at (and that doesn't even factor in TLT.)

I'm having a rough time against TIE Defenders as rebels in Armada.

They're just so fucking good at everything. They stole the X-Wing's gimmick and improved it.

I've been trying Tycho and E-Wings for scatter and snipe respectively, but it still feels like an uphill battle.

Is there anything in R&V that'd help out? I've been proxying for Intel but never bought the box.

>>52272578
I've only played against them a few times but 2 A-wings, Shara and Tycho felt fine. I haven't tried it yet but forcing them into a Biggs and Jan Ors supported X-wing blob under Gallant Haven should be enough to outlast almost anything, although GH is probably overkill.

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>>52260981
I am one with the uuurrrk huuuuuurh and the uuurrrk huuuuuurh is with me

>>52271218
>I hate this so much.
Yes, but the man who doesn't listen about his wife's day goes to the 'special hell' where rpg books don't get bought and miniatures might get broken.

>>52272534
I like that list a lot. Definitely takes skill to fly, kudos.

>>52273347
It's by the seat of my pants, all of it.
In reality though, I'm training hard for net year's circuit.

>>52249193
Anyone?

>>52249193
>>52273668
>For my first character so far, I wanted to make a Commando Droid Commando that disguised itself as an organic.
look at the outlaw disguise kit in core or the Holographic disguise matrix in No disintegrations.

>namely a Pantoran because I really like Pantorans. Thoughts?
Pantorans get a lot of XP, but get a hit to Willpower, which is a pretty important stat. They're good if you plan on doing a little social-fu on the side.

>>52257248
>pegboard

Holy shit, I remember you. Didn't it change to 'Deepthroat Mike'?

>>52274404
The idea was that they'd basically do the same thing that the commando droids in TCW did, but with non-clone armor, instead something a bit more 'ambiguous', perhaps as a Ubese to justify never taking their gear off.

And how heavily would a Pantoran be discriminated against by Imps as opposed to the more 'exotic' races?

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>>52272578
Try Ketsu. She will at least slow them down considerably.

Also as a Rebel player you should get at least one S&V, because Jan is essential. Which is the other thing you can try: Biggs, Jan, and then as many generic X-wings as you have points/squadron commands for. Laugh as your squads never, ever die. Bonus points for having Toryn Farr and/or Gallant Haven nearby.

>>52275612
S&V is definitely my next purchase. I only started the game two months ago so I'm still playing catch-up.

>>52275606
>And how heavily would a Pantoran be discriminated against by Imps as opposed to the more 'exotic' races?
That ultimately depends on your GM. I would rule not as much, because a blue near human that was part of the OR isn't all that exotic.

>>52275606
Probably enough for it to be a bother, though the propaganda book says that the Empire made even near-humans distrust the more alien looking species in the galaxy. So unless you have some type of value to the Imps, good luck.

>>52275262
Yeah, I mentioned it in >>52262915
Surprised anyone remembered

>>52275871
>>52275921
Well, nobody seems inclined to use a human in the group, so I guess we're fucked for it.

>>52277310
Make your own decisions.

>>52277432
I worry, is all. In D&D I felt 'forced' to use a half-elf so people wouldn't give us super weird looks because everyone else were weird as shit races.
Same logic applies here.

>>52277755
>DM actually bothers with racism

Why?

I don't need racism in literally every single session of RP regardless of setting, we get it, can I just play a crab person this once

>>52277755

Its fucking star wars.
Play what you want.

If the GM forces you to go to Imperial Center and try to sneak your way into the palace by pretending to be Imperial officers despite you being a fucking cornucopia of non-human colours, then hes a shit GM.
The edge of the empire doesnt give much of a shit so long as you have credits and a gun to back up the claim that the credits are in fact yours.

Play whatever the fuck you like, dont let some bullshit 'balance' put you off.
If you wanna play a Pantoran who gets off on being called 'Mommy' by any alien with red skin, then you fucking play that character.

Dont just go "Well no one else is a human so im going to play Indiana Ford, human archaeological artifact smuggler who wears lots of beige and is non confrontational."
Fuck off.
Play what sounds fun.

Fuck, if Indiana Ford the archaological artifact smuggler who fuckin loves beige sounds fun, play that.
It's a game. Your friends are all playing what they like. Why the fuck should you play something you dnt want to just to try and fill some imaginary bullshit race quota.

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>>52277846
>can I just play a crab person this once
But you played a crab person last campaign, too.

>>52277894
I usually play humans because I suffer from "anti-special-snowflake" special snowflake syndrome

https://drafts.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2017/3/20/77-plus-voting-phase-3/

I believe this is the final wave of voting for the community submissions for 77+ at the Coruscant open, so time to get votes in and let the participants draft some jank ass ships. Some of the ones developers and staff submitted are pretty jank already.

>>52278108

Yeah, I get the feeling that the OP team and the FFG team are at cross purposes with regards to this.
All of the OP team suggestions are decent suggestions whilst the FFG ones seem completely awful and strangely unaware of their own meta.

So like, why would you ever pick a generic TIE Advanced when Academy + Crack Black or a much better TIE Bomber are on the table?

And who in their right mind ever takes a Generic Starviper? Like, regardless of the other choices, who.
Those guys aren't even taken in casual games their so overcosted. Oh sure there's always someone online who claims he's got a friend who uses them, but that's about as believable as that one Florida Laywer who's pants spontanously caught fire in the middle of his defence statement.

The option of a Dogfighting Y-Wing or a Fearless Fang Fighter seem much more interesting for a start.

Rebels are just fucked though. Their only options are a bombing K-Wing without a TLT or a HWK with a TLT. There are literally no other remotely sensible choices.

I hope to god there's some decent Y-Wing and A-Wing options to come.

>>52257276
Blues/Country Rock
Something like this https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9IDnFzr_ZaY

>>52278459
I mean it's a draft and every guy has to have a list of each faction so presumably whoever gets to pick first for Empire will get stuck with something shit like the Starviper for Scum and vice versa. FFG almost certainly realizes that some of the options just suck balls but they're not going to write in the article "yeah sadly there's jack shit you can really do with this ship, good luck to the fucker who gets stuck with it"

>>52278459
>>52278667

Yeah, it really depends on where you are in the draft order, and what the other 77 points of your list are like. Like, you might really like an academy pilot blocker and a blackcrack TIE. But if you draw last you might have to compensate for being the guy who drew a StarViper with Stealth Device.

The "mini-squad" also has some strict limitations in that it has to be between 23 and 28 points (meaning theoretically somebody can get 105 points worth of list) and has to be generics only.

It's interesting, but the point limitation hamstrung some shit I think. Too bad Wave XI isn't out yet, TIE/AG+TLT+LWF would fit perfectly in the format.

>>52279076

BTW, for those of you who can't count, this means K-Wing+TLT doesn't fit in the rules.

>>52278499
The music of this game was spot on. It kept me playing a lot longer than I would have otherwise.

>>52278499
>>52279210

That OST really was fabulous

>>52256540
Red October
Big Red

>>52279563
Big October
Red Red

>>52270750
>That's a pretty typical woman thing to do though, they'll ratfuck your gear, phone, computer
Had that happen to me in the chairforce, left my laptop at my guard post for a quick piss while two girls filled in for me. Suddenly people knew that I had ebony porn on my pc.Thank god they did not find the weird stuff

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Apparently FFG dropped a little new FAQ lately, which was mostly just questions or whatever, but it firmly solves a question - spending a target lock to reroll normally is a Game Effect.

So TS is pretty good, confirmed.

>>52280348
Decent buff. Omega Leader might actually be decent now.

Pity the rewording doesn't make it so ATC Advanced can get the crit with it. Thought that would work for a second.

>>52280738

You mean Omega Ace. OL requires you to target lock a ship and doesn't need you to spend it so it doesn't count. And also OL didn't need any help.

So much so I'm pretty sure Pulsed Ray shields is excluded for imps almost entirely because of it. And maybe TIE/AG.

>>52280803
Yeah. Whoops. Ace. Brain fart.

Yes I'm pretty sure you're right that OL is the reason Pulse Ray shield is Rebel/Scum only. It would be a nice buff to the Tie/fo overall, but way too good on him.

TIE/ag would be bad with it, since it would telegraph where you were going, which is quite detrimental on a TLT ship. Also LWF is probably better overall for the same points cost.

>>52280858

I mean, I don't roll with TLTs because last I checked K-Wings are still out of stock everywhere, but I though maybe the slow roll would help since some ties are bad with their 1 speeds (and I'd bet the Aggressor will have a dial akin to an Advanced or TAP with maybe more reds) to keep targets inside your range 2-3 and not have them get too close, since you can still BR.

You're right though, LWF would almost always be the the best choice, it comes in box and 2.5 agility is great the way most ships are these days.

>>52271269
>Start a Patreon. Maybe people will sponsor your goal.
I actually really wanted to address this because I was thinking about it all day. Right now, in addition to prepping for the 2018 x-wing season, I have a hobby youtube channel. Mostly dumb vidya stuff, but I've been transitioning into tabletop shit (I've got a soon to be shortlived Pathfinder series, gonna have some warhams shit, an Only War campaign series. etc.)
But one of the first things I'm doing when I have the time is to do some x-wing ship and list breakdowns and batreps (I'll post a link here when I actually have more than 1 x-wing related vid on the channel). But a Patreon was always considered as a way to make the channel lucrative to produce for.
>TL;DR: I'll be considering a patreon (to go live no earlier than the 2018 tourney season's announcement) in conjunction with my youtube channel. If I get to go to nationals (by winning a regional or raising enough money to get there myself, I'll let one of my patrons design my fucking gameday shirt.

For Trioculus!

>>52280932

The slow f1 helps a fair number of scum ships that lack a native forward 1 as well. Neither the Scyk or Kithrax have one. I don't think the Starviper does either for that matter.

It's just the rebels that tends to have comprehensive slow speed maneouvers. It's just the faster stuff and the hard turns they tend to lack. It's the second reason why B-Wings aren't seen anymore, they can't close the gap to the TLT packing Y-Wings fast enough not to die.

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Force ghosts as Space Evo commentators: just silly enough or too silly even by Triocular standards? Trying to add some variety to my writing and GM narration with regards to Star Wars melee combat. There's only so many ways I can say "BAH GAWD IT'S A STONE COLD STUNNER" before it gets old.

>>52281066

And Rebs are about to get another clunky 1 AG ship. No way with a 180 arc + Reinforce the Auzituck has a great dial. No Ks and probably some red turns in the future. FFG has been all about choices actually mattering lately.


Speaking of Rebels and broad mods though, I had a thought the other day - what if Rebels could benefit from a "Wing" upgrade? Like how TIE only affects all TIEs, could you make a mod which was "Wing only" which would apply broadly to rebel small fighters (and Scum Ys, I guess)? Does that work with the language? And what kind of upgrades could you apply to multiple letter-wing ships to improve rebels?

>>52281248
Too silly for writing, maybe workable for GM narration

>>52281249
Starfighter Command training perhaps?
Add some extra manouvers?

>>52281249

They're also going to get a PS8 Agility 1 bomber ship that can take a TLT AS WELL AS a FireCon or Acc Corrector for a LOT less points than the Ghost.
Yeah, I can see a lot of potential in Havoc - Miranda (with Sabine Natch) pair-ups in the future.

>>52281249

Problem is, Rebels aren't that big on unified parts and suppliers like the Imperials. On account of the fact that their stuff is mix of whatever they can steal or salvage.

What they needed was to make Autothrusters Small Ship only, and then make the Agressor (no, the OTHER Agressor) a Small Base Ship. Or have the IG-2000 title make them count as a small base model (which would actually open up some interesting and thematic options.)

Failing that, just nerf the TLT to 2 dice.

>>52281324

That reminds me of an idea for "Tactics" cards I've seen a couple people throw around on the FFG forums lately - an upgrade which affects your entire squad but isn't attached to any one ship. This would also be a good way to improve a lot of ships at once.

Sadly I don't think we're getting any real revolutionary mechanics in this wave - but the stuff we are getting with "unlimited ordinance" and some stuff is interesting.

>>52281356

We'll also have to see what Minefield Mapper does, but Nym can take EM too, and unique Scum Astros. Miranda + is a firm basis for a few rebel squadrons (or perhaps that's +Miranda. I would think given she's a more common element she's the real foundation there) so the Havoc will probably join that number. It has EPTs so it can deadeye as well and fucking 3 T-Rolls.

Additionally, H-6s and Tugboats chucking bombs and tractor tokens will be a thing for Scum.

>Failing that, just nerf the TLT to 2 dice.

I suspect that with the last big four hits, TLT will probably be getting a waggle of something in the not to distant future, especially since it's going to all four factions. While it costs a lot, scratch damage is pretty rough and it looks like the higher PS Aggressor generic has an EPT to TLT ruthlessness will be a thing. So if people keep telling FFG how bad TLTs are they'll have to work something into it. I'd wager the enemy getting an extra defense die at R3 or something to curb dice mods is the most likely.

>>52281515

>four factions.

Christ, I am tired. I think I need to lay down, I'm inventing entire factions for XWM now. AND giving them TLT.

>>52281356
>They're also going to get a PS8 Agility 1 bomber ship that can take a TLT AS WELL AS a FireCon or Acc Corrector for a LOT less points than the Ghost.
Yeah, I can see a lot of potential in Havoc - Miranda (with Sabine Natch) pair-ups in the future.

A Miranda with Sabine, TLT, Extra Munitions, Adv SLAM and Connor Nets clocks in at 45 points.
The following upgrades for Captain Nym: TLT, Havoc Title, Extra Munitions, Connor Net comes to 15pts. NYM is going to be 31 points unless they think his pilot ability is worth a few extra points, and FFG usually don't.
This leaves 9 points left for tinkering. So, you could toss in some Proton Bombs or R5 - P8 onto Nym, then throw in VI or something else. R2-D2 on Miranda could then follow.

>>52281515
Well if nothing else, the letterwing fighters would all be star fighters and they could all use it as an ept or something for better movement options.
Then non-letterwings can't use it and get op.

I just want alphabet soup to be viable.
Being totally honest I want 3 x-wings to be viable.

>>52281549

Technically FFG considers First Order and Resistence to be seperate factions that you can mix and match with Imperials and Rebels respectively.

So you're still wrong, but in the other direction.

>>52281610

Well, people are supposedly doing alright with 3 T-70s. As per IA, that's X-Wings.

Really want an X+Y pack though.

>>52281356
I don't know what to make of the Havoc for Rebs yet. At first glance, it being so much more expensive than the comparable K-wing means it really has to bring the pain or it's flat out not worth it.

>>52281663
But that's not the fab-four-minus-tycho.

Unless theres something I missed and I can have Janson, Hobbie and Wedge in t-70s

>>52281696

>it being so much more expensive than the comparable K-wing

It really isn't though, if the scale is the same Nym should only be 1 point more than Miranda. Since rebels don't seem to get any generics, comparisons otherwise are unfair. What you get for that is access to an EPT, and one torp, one missile, one bomb, one turret and one crew, so basically one less torp in exchange for an EPT. For 0 points you can drop crew to get access to System and unique Salvaged Astros. We also know it has a 4 forward and a 3 T-roll, so the Havoc is probably more maneuverable than the K, though not as much top speed with no slam. But it doesn't get PWT. It does have one more health, though.

So it'll probably depend pretty heavily on Nym's pilot ability, and what some of the stuff packaged with the H-6 pack do, but it's still a pretty close match.

>>52281663
>X+Y pack though
I've heard rumors of a Heroes of Scariff set to that effect.

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So apparently Home One, canonically, only has 36 turbo-lasers and ion cannons(a total of 72 heavy guns). The Wook says that one source actually put it at 29 batteries of 5 each, which would put it at 145+36 ICs in total, but that still seems kind of underpowered next to an ISD-II. And EVERY OTHER CRUISER has even less armament.

So how in the holy hell did Home One and whatever other cruisers were present manage to batter down the Executor's shields?

>>52282836
Ion Torpedoes.

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>>52282836
Concentrated firepower, as Ackbar pointed out. They may be undergunned, but throw enough MCs at a target and it'll still hurt. Also, B-wings. Lots and lots of B-wings. And Wedge "Speedruns ISDs for giggles" Antilles. And Stone Cold Horton Salm.

>>52283017
>Wedge
Was hurtling down the Death Star II at 150 MLGT at the time bucko. But yeah, B-Wings will fuck them up, and the MCs were probably drawing power away

>>52281054
So, I'm recording some of my first X-wing series tomorrow (I know there are already tons of ship and list breakdowns on youtube). What would be better, to start with the T-65 and just work through the expansions til I get to all the ships I want to talk about, or just talk about what's meta right now? I'm thinking the meta route offers the listeners more, rather than me talking about ships that nobody cares to play anymore.

>>52277866
>>52277846
I guess I'm probably worrying unduly, but I guess we won't see until it actually happens.
I just don't want to the the person dragging the group down because of it.

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>>52282836
About the only real advantage the MC's have over ISD's was their shield generators- huge banks of them they can bring up at the flick of a switch, compared to the imperials who tended to be a bit more oriented towards sheer firepower.
Most of the SW RPG systems haven't ever really managed to capture the use of capital ships in their games, a couple do starfighters and transports ok, but none of them have really ever had a good hard think about how warships function and as a result tended to be 'background scenery'.

Guess for the majority of games that's ok, but its loss for those who are interested in using them as more than a set-piece in games.

>>52283376
I think it depends on who your target audience is for the series and what you really want it to be. If you start from the start you've got a lot of ships to work through that aren't likely to see significant changes any time soon so your video will have more lasting power, plus it will appeal more to beginners who are just getting into the game and want comprehensive analysis of every option available to them. If you start with the meta your videos will likely be made obsolete by changes sooner and your videos will have less appeal with people who don't play to the meta or who already know about the meta firsthand.

>>52282836
what was the guns on the ISD-II again? that number has been fought over a bit as well from my understanding.

>>52283648
That's actually a really fair point that I wasn't seeing right away. I think it is probably smarter to have the beginning player in mind, since the meta gamer isn't going to be learning much from an overview of ships and builds since they know what's meta and what isn't.
Thanks for the input. I'll be scripting and recording the T-65 video tomorrow and probably editing later this week whenever there's time. Apologies in advance is Biggs gets more emphasis than the other pilots, but he was the last worth-while t-65 pilot in the meta and I'll admit I had a very long honeymoon period flying him when I first started playing.

>>52283696
Legends canon with the ISD-II had like 100+ turbolasers alone
NuCanon settles it at 60 turoblasers and Ion cannons

>>52278108
Most of these look pretty neat, except the TLT HWK. Please vote for the autoblaster Y, cluster advanced, and seismic B.

I've got to start building 77 pointers. The Invitational is less than a month away!

>>52283898

I voted for that B and I think that Advanced, but I'm sorry, I could not resist the idea of voting for a BR doubletap Y. The jank spoke to me.

Oh, also, speaking of Opens

Paul Heaver won Naboo using Rebels, specifically Miranda (TLT, Cluster Mines and Thermal Detonators), Biggs and Stresshog.

The Tatooine Open was won by Mindlink Triple scouts, by a gentleman spaniard who resembled Cassian Andor.

>>52282836
all you need to account for is a single opening in the shield. after that it doesn't matter, the executor is getting trench run disease from all the fighters the rebellion brought along.

I just watched Rogue One, and loved it.

I could see why people were upset with the CGI of Peter Cushing, but I could look past it and still enjoy everything else. And seeing the Death Star's firepower was terrifying, even more so since it was only a fraction. The destruction of Alderaan will forever be worsened and horrifying whenever I watch the original trilogy

>just watched Rogue One
You know, for all that armour stormtroopers can be knocked unconscious incredibly easy.
>no protection against blasters
>no protection against walking sticks
>no protection against rocks tossed by teddy bears

>>52285193
>>no protection against blasters
Its primary job isn't to deflect/tank blaster fire, but to reduce the lethality of shots so the medics can drag your ass to the nearest bacta tank. It's also likely still highly shrapnel-resistant.

>>52285193
>The helmet can only filter out smoke, not toxins

>>52285193
You saw the myth busters crush that armored truck to test the lethality of logs against an AT-ST, right? If something so primitive can devastate a two legged tank, then what can other primitive weapons do to the notoriously shoddy armor of storm troopers?

>>52285052
I was upset because, if you strip away the Star Wars set dressing, you have a mediocre sci-fi film with serious pacing and narrative problems.

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>>52285193
>All your shit is built by the lowest bidder

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>>52285785
>I train with my Stormtrooper armour every day, this superior armour can deflect blaster bolts because it is folded over a thousand times, and is vastly superior to any other armour in the galaxy. I earned my Stormtrooper armour license two years ago, and I have been getting better every day.

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>>52285898
>gets murdered by a sentient wombat armed with a stick

>>52281356
>They're also going to get a PS8 Agility 1 bomber ship that can take a TLT AS WELL AS a FireCon or Acc Corrector for a LOT less points than the Ghost.
>Yeah, I can see a lot of potential in Havoc - Miranda (with Sabine Natch) pair-ups in the future.
Have you noticed how the Havoc includes bomb tokens but doesn't include actual bomb cards? There's also this unique upgrade called "Bomb Gen(erator)".
Prepare for infinite, steamy, non consensual bomb dropping action.

I just wanna let everyone know how much I LOVE the clear-dome astromech droids from ESB and R1. Fuck those little dudes are great. Roll on, astro droids.

>>52285193
Actually, watch the part where Chirrut grabs that trooper and uses him as cover from the others.

The guy he's holding continues moving after the other trooper fires on him like three times and his armour chars rather than gets holes and kills him.

Maybe that trooper lowered his power output to save his friend?
So maybe the average blaster the imps would deal with can't pen either. The Rebellion and proper scum use powered up full military blasters. But the average civilian who can only easily get their hands on legal weaponry? Maybe their weapons couldn't pen trooper armour.

Like civvies are using space .22 blasters whilst the militaries and criminals are using larger space calibers

>>52287025
>Like civvies are using space .22 blasters
>Implying .22 isn't one of the most popular military cartridges in the world
>What is .223 cal?
It's 5.56mm

Why do people still think .22 is a weak round?

>>52260920
>>52260966
>>52260981
It was a trainer.
What did you expect?

>>52287119

I was expecting that it would take more than the equivalent of a space bolt action rifle to make it explode.

>>52287194
With what they probably had to leave off to make room for another pilot they are probably happy with it being space worthy .

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>>52287194
They're sand people... its at least a 7.62x54R space bolt action

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>>52287293
>expecting .30 cals to do any better
>when even 12 of them were utter shit at dealing with aircrafts

>>52284001
>Paul Heaver

I wasn't expecting to win the thing before, but at least I'll have fun getting my teeth kicked in by the GOAT.

>>52287335
A-wings are made out plywood and vodka in some madman's garage
They're basically a Yak-3 in space

>>52287516
Yak-3 was actually good, you're thinking of LaGGs

>>52287522
A-wings are good too, just don't get hit in one
Trying to think of a Rebels episode which doesn't feature an A-wing dying horribly to something. Think there's at least one, but I might be mistaken

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After seeing the most recent Rebels episode, I am wondering when FFG will release Maul into X-wing...
I assume he would be a crew for scum, but not sure on the 'theme' of his ability.
Maybe something that applies stress to others? Or maybe something to do with applying damage, like other dark-siders.
Any ideas or things you would like to see Anon?

>>52287615
Is Maul even ever shown flying anything on his own?

>>52287664
He does have his own ship, but I've read that it would be too big for X-wing. Apparently it is longer than the Ghost (It's the ship Ezra returns to Chopper base in, if you're familiar with the show.)
I can't see it being too difficult to bring him in, but he is quite an isolated character when he does appear in the show, he always seemed to be using people, rather than working with them. Then again, that is a rather scummy thing to do.

>>52287664
He had the Kom'rk, which would basically be a big base protectorate. He also stole an Inquisitor's TAP. Crew would probably be best for him, something offensive and debilitating.

>>52287772
I see him as a crew instead of a pilot

>>52287272
-1 hull +1crew slot A-wing title when?

>>52287772
>It's the ship Ezra returns to Chopper base in
The tilt wing at the end of the last episode? that was Maul's? I assumed it was a mando ship Ezra managed to hitch a ride from since it looked like an upscaled fang-fighter.

>>52287615

I'm still amazed we haven't gotten an Obi-Wan card yet.

>>52288568
Yeah, I'm fairly certain that tilt-wing thing is Maul's. It appears and is associated with Maul elsewhere in Rebels, and if I recall correctly, Mauls escapes in it in an earlier S3 episode.

>>52288600
True. They must be saving him for something big.

>>52288664
'16 world champ said he wants to design the Obi Wan card, if he's had his way it won't be long.

>>52288647
It's a gauntlet fighter (Kom'rk-class fighter). It's Mando but Maul stole one.

>>52288732
170 feet long, by the way. Significantly longer than even the Millenium Falcon. If it finds its way into x-wing I'd put money that's it's a Huge ship for Scum, albeit the smallest Huge ship in the game.

>>52287098

Because .22 LR is kind of a weak round, and probably what most people think of when you say "22".

5.56x45mm it a military intermediate cartridge, much more power in the round and a different shape for different purposes.

Not that this really applies to blasters, their primary difference seems to be more of one of the difference of firing a rifled bullet from a pistol and then firing one from a giant rifle with a heavy barrel.

>>52285683
But the Star Wars set dressing was so artfully done.

Should I start playing x-wing miniatures?

Sup /swg/, any word on when the c-roc is going to be released? Was supposed to be Q1 and I havent seen anything saying its delayed so whats the likelihood of it being out before april?

We're having an x-wing weekend in early april so im still hoping its available before then

>>52290212
Yes, and you should watch my youtube series on it (when I publish the first vid tonight).

>>52290252
>actually playing Epic
Don't. People only buy the Huge ships as wall-hangers. No one wants to play Epic, ever.

>>52290212
Do you have anyone around you who plays? If there's no local scene and you don't have any friends willing to get into it with you it's probably not worth it.

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>>52289734
>so artfully done
I didn't see any Chiss getting stabbed in the back in that movie.

>>52290496
No. But many of my friends are willing to try any new games I present. They are just too ignorant and lazy to find and buy their own games.

>>52290458
I only normally play with friends and we already have some epic ships, so every now and then we'll have an epic game. We we all chip in and get them for each other as birthday presents.
Just hoping the c-roc is out before our next epic weekend

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>>52290524
>Thrawn will die at the end of season 3.

>>52290991
Isn't there a Thrawn novel on the way? It might take place after Rebels.