/swg/ Star Wars Games General

>>52211619
Yes

>>52211926
So what role does the Aggressor fulfill?

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>>52211989
In-Universe? Recon and Light Fighter-Bomber duty

In XWM? Imp Turret carrier (subject to change when the named pilots are spoiled)

>>52211926

Alright, so the Aggressor made it in.

Do we want to take bets on more ships? Will the Oppressor with two missiles and a system slot come in, clearly designed to be the Imperial B-Wing, but instead of primary/cannon attacks, it throws Unguided Rockets because that's a thing now? Will the TIE Hunter finally get in, a dangerous ace hunter which can utilize torpedoes? Will shit get really weird, and we get Vanguards or Scouts as support TIEs?

>>52211989

It's a attempt to build a fighter/bomber, much like the Y. It was used for attacking rebel convoys and shipping, and also some patrol and escort duty. It's supposed to be rugged and versatile, but pays for it with less maneuverability and power.

Like >>52212042 said in game we'll see. Right now it seems to be a choice for your cheap turreted or missile ship.

>>52212065
If FFG keeps going back to OldCanon for ships when NuCanon stuff has been exhausted we might see the TIE Hunter, TIE Raptor and maybe Assault Gunboat for Imps. But that will be 3-4 waves away at earliest

>>52212142

Given that Unguided Rockets is now an imperial themed upgrade (they're the only ones with double missiles that anybody can think of) I feel confident the Gunboat will eventually make it in. Probably with the ability to be more flexible with upgrades also, but given how weakly armed the ship is normally, something like Cannon+Missile+Missile is a niche imps don't have.

Anyone have any pictures of Ganks outside of the Hutt Space supplement book? Cant seem to find any, especially unmasked.

>>52212203
And with epic actions getting used in normal play, we may have the space jam soon enough

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>>52212979

My money is Wave XII, Scum will get a ship with Jam out of the box. Or every faction will be able to jam.

But the Empire should be able to SLAM and Jam

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>>52213119
I so want this to be a thing

>>52213294

I mean, Imperials just got turrets and Rebels technically have access to unique Salvaged Astromechs. SLAM was invented by Imperials, I'd bet they'll eventually get a ship which can SLAM too.

(And didn't Gunboats or Missile Boats have a jamming beam?)

>>52213119
Missile boat is too ugly for x-wing

>>52213354

FFG's miniatures make anything look good.

>>52213354
They already have the gr 75 medium transport

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>>52213119
BRRRROTHER

Have there been any word on a 40th anniversary edition?

>>52213119
Would a Assault Gunship Title that lets you make two missile attacks by spending a Target Lock and getting a Weapons Deactivated token be too OP?

Because that would be a cool way to bring the Missile Boat into XWM

>>52213708
No. Fan-speculation at best, and some mentions of a 4k version of the special edition of ANH, but that's it.

Disney can't legally release any physical copies of the PT/OT without a deal from Fox, anyway, and there's not even been rumors of such a deal.

Remember that Fox owns distribution rights for ANH in perpetuity or until they decide to sell those rights.

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>>52213354
You really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies?

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>>52214237
You must be at least this attractive to be in X-wing Miniature Game

>>52214433
God the k-wing gets my dick hard. All that fucking firepower

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I'm actually putting stats, dials, and pilots to this beast. Give me some upgrade and pilot suggestions I can mull over while I write out my designs.

So far I've completed the dial, a couple idea pilots, and some starting upgrades & gimmicks. Will post images soon.

>>52214458
It's my favorite ship (rules and appearance) in the game, and I think that's unlikely to change.

>>52214092
I thought those rights were sold in the disney aquisition

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>>52214473

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>>52214473
First up the dial. Making this gimmick the major part of the ship's design. Imbalanced ship design makes the ship push left, and it LOVES going left, and hates going right. Fastest it can turn "right" will be from a 2 straight and a boost right. Dial generator didn't like all of the options I gave it.

Corrections and clarifications to the image:
>1 speed bank is green, turn is white, tallon roll and segnor's loop are red.
>2 speed bank and turn are green, straight, tallon roll, and segnor's loop are white.
>3 speed bank, turn, tallon roll and segnor's loop are green (faster speed means easier to handle and utilize the pull to the left), 3 straight is white.
>4 straight red (pilot has to pull right hard to keep it straight for that long)
>5 red koroigan turn

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>>52215031
>>52215070
>>52214473

>actions, stats, and firing arc.

I'm phone posting and editing, so I can't really modify the firing arcs. There will be a 180 cannon only auxiliary firing arc on the left half of the ship. Just try to imagine it, this will become part of the gimmick package through a title.

>>52215070
>no right turns
nice meme

>>52215070
Tech and Cannon maybe? Any broken combos?

>>52215136
Thats exactly the plan, actually. Well system and cannon. Maybe swap it out for a tech instead?

>>52215134
>>52214473

Next up is the base pilot card. Points will be 17 base, 21 for a PS5 generic with EPT, 23 for ace #1 at PS6, 25 for PS7 ace #2

>only upgrade is system
The cannon and auxiliary arc will be available through a title, removing the primary fire so it can only shoot left.

>>52215136
Autoblaster and accuracy corrector come to mind

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>>52215202
>>52215134
>>52215070
>>52214473
Forgot the image, like a dumbass.

>>52214993
Did you really think Fox would let that shit go?

>>52214993
Also remember that the unedited original versions of the OT don't even exist anymore and Disney has no aim to restore them.

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>>52215240
Heres ps5 at 20 or 21 points or something. I'm you, but better.

>>52214993
No. George sold Lucasfilm and its properties as is, all rights intact. Fox still owns the distribution rights for I-VI until 2020 and IV in perpetuity.

It's why the digital distribution for I-VI in 2015 was allowed to happen the way it did, because technically Fox doesn't actually own the distribution rights for digital (as far as I am aware of), just for theatrical and physical media for home release.

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>>52215337
>>52214473
Ace #1 next. 23 points. Anyone have a better name besides "Rebel"?

>>52215337
If this is not TFA era no tech slot I guess. I thought it was TFA FO concept art.

>>52215371
Defiant Ace or "Rogue Vet"

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>>52215374
That was my thought. I think it was just someone's Photoshop project and never associated it with any time scale.

>>52215371
>>52214473
Ace #2 at 25 points. Trying to keep up with the /x7 defender title theme, while making it somewhat worthy of top pilot status.

>>52215420
>>52214473
Thats it for the images. Now for some in-box upgrades to flesh this shit out.

Obligatory gimmick title:
>Pintle Mount
You may equip a Cannon upgrade to this ship. While it is equipped, you cannot perform primary weapon attacks, and must only use your auxiliary firing arc.

Cannon:
>Gatling Laser
5pts, Range 1-3, 3 attack, if you do not modify your attack dice, the defender cannot modify their defense dice.

System:
>Overclocked Sensors
3pts, dual card
Side 1: When you perform an action, you may perform a free action. If you do, flip this card.
Side 2: Action: Receive a stress token and a"Weapons Disabled" token, flip this card.

Modification:
>Autothrusters
Because we NEED another source of autothrusters besides buying star vipers.

EPT:
>Vengeful
2pts, after an enemy ship at range 1-3 destroys a friendly ship, if you are not stressed, you may receive 1 stress token to immediately perform an attack against that ship, if able.

>>52215543
Vengeful sounds fun.

>>52215869
Following up, it would make a black squadron swarm crazy good. 16 points a pop is pretty cheap

>>52215962
>>52215869
It has many good applications, and its essentially the new chewie pilot ability with added stress. This of this on someone like quickdraw, who can now shoot a maximum 6 times per turn (if the vengeful attack allows special ops training to kick in as well), or at the very least if someone has FCS and a lock on the target, they then get to fire missiles at them.

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>>52211926

What are some interesting ideas for bounty hunters?

>>52216354
A bounty hunter who doesn't know he's a bounty hunter.
To give you an example of how to do this:
Character has been an underling for a crime boss for a few years, picking up his dry cleaning or whatever, just mundane shit.
"hey, kid, I need you to take care of this for me"
Character delivers packages he doesn't know are bombs or shit like that, unknowingly killing a bunch of people for his boss.

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>TIE Oppressor was outfitted with a booster for anit-fighter work

Would the Oppressor make a good candidate for TIE with a SLAM in X Wing?

>>52216354
a former loose cannon cop who only takes bounties on criminals who he wants to kill, basically he's a vigilante using bounty hunting as cover
but here's the twist, his former partner got rich as hell from lucky investments in KDY, and uses his desk job to find criminals for his buddy, and puts out the bounties himself

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>>52216354

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>>52211926

Say, does Freedom in the Galaxy count as a Star Wars game?

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>>52217006
I love everything about that cover

I wish I was dead...
How do you cope?

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>>52217203
So long as this image exists, there is always hope

>>52217230
WTF I love life now

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>>52217203
By shitposting

>>52217203
collect x wing minis and paint them

>>52216731
>anti fighter
>slam action

I dont think so. Maybe a boost action like the punisher has, but slam is used mostly defensively. That weapons disabled token hurts.

>>52217203
maybe Episode 8 will be better. Maybe Luke will make the wait worthwhile.

>>52217476
>>52216731

Yeah, the Oppressor would probably be Boost+BR, and have System (IIRC they're supposed to have advanced sensors and other equipment) and the double missile. On the other hand, due to Lightweight Frame, TIEs can have 2 AGI now.

>>52217414
What the fuck is that image from?

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>>52217785
One of the Pirate mods for Mount and Blade Warband, a Slavic one iirc

>>52217872
Oh, it sounds incredibly edgy, but fun.

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You got it just right, sempai

>tfw no good star wars mod

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One of my players might be bringing a friend over. Pitch me some character concepts that would be easy for a beginner to use.

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>>52218049
Ewok fighter pilot who flies using prosthetics built by a sympathetic medical droid. Yub yub, Commander.

>>52217230
This is why we need to have someone from /tg/ win as many opens and the invitational as possible-

Add Trioculus to X-wing.

>>52218049
Technician whiz that bought his way out of slavery and is looking to find the rest of his family and bring them together

Droid working for the IG-88 droid conspiracy

Soldier who suffered at the hands of war crimes and wants the CO who gave the order to use nerve gas dead

This was my party when I GM'd EotE

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>>52218165
No, no. Just add wacky Sienar shit. Like the TIE Bizarro.

>>52218220
whynotboth.holo

>>52218207
Speaking of the IG-88 droid conspiracy, my player characters are about to unleash their own droid conspiracy on the galaxy.

An old Separatist super tactical droid head was hooked up to a bunch of databanks in a research facility and left to rot for thirty years. The PCs found him. He has gained sentience, used the databanks as overflow memory and rewritten his own programming.

They deal is that they were sent to this facility to retrieve data. The data is on the droid, who doesn't want to lose parts of his "personality" by disconnecting to the databanks. To make things more complex, the person who gave them this job wants the droid wiped after the data is copied.

But the players like the droid and want to save it. So they're headed to a Clone Wars-era Holowan Mechanical laboratory to see if they can get a droid body that this sentient droid would fit into.

And then the plan is to hook this sentient droid, in his new body, into the old Separatist Shadowfeed transmission complex on Murkhana from where he can slice and gain root access to the HoloNet via the aging network of military grade pirate relays so that they can make a show of transmitting the data to their boss and destroying the old droid head on holo to prove they got the job done.

So tell me, /tg/... what should happen next?

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>>52218315
The droid learns how to shitpost like a Mandalorian.

>>52218049
former war correspondent who discovered that he fucking loved that shit and became a mercenary after his embed was up

>>52218419
>Shitposting quadratically
The holonet is doomed

>>52218165
I'm doing my best!

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>>52214473
Think as long as the pilot's "upgraded on drugs" it'll work out exactly as /swg/ planned

>>52218315

Can you transmit data over the Holonet? I thought it was for Audio/Visual communication only. I've actually been researching this a lot to try and figure out how communications and data transfer work in Star Wars on the interstellar scale because our GM was allowing us to more or less "google," for information if we had computer access and that seemed totally wrong to me.

My conclusions were that the Holonet only allows for A/V input/output and you can't send data files over it like its some kind of space internet. Subspace comms CAN transmit data but carries with it the danger of interception, corruption once you travel enough light years or relay it enough times, and its also really slow, like it can take days or weeks to send a file just to the other side of a sector. These two factors are why physical data storage and physical data couriers/information brokers are so important in Star Wars: there ain't no cloud or space torrent, and its faster and safer to take a spaceship and hand somebody a flash drive than it is to try and space-email it to them.

If you have a specific example of using the holonet for interstellar data transfer rather than just communication, I'd appreciate hearing about it so I can adjust my findings.

>watch latest Rebels episode
>they blow up an Imperial Frigate without even meme torpedos in a single shot
>they just overload a back feed and the entire ship explodes

Please kill me.

Hey /swg/, does anyone have any ideas/house rules for Mandalorian Iron as an equipment attribute? My bro is playing a Mando and he's been looking for some kind of special snowflake thing to "explore his heritage," with because his character has been estranged from his family and culture. I could just have it be a copy/paste of Cortosis I guess, but that seems really lame. For that matter, I kind of want to change the Cortosis rules too since it seems really wrong to me the attribute counts against all weapons and not just energy/lightsabers.

What I was thinking was since Cortosis is supposed to be brittle, it can keep its current effects and also add Sunder immunity to armor along with it providing immunity to Stun Damage, however these effects only count against energy weapons. In return, Sunder from physical weapons like blades and slug-throwers counts double.

Meanwhile, Mando Iron is supposed to stand up to Lightsabers and other energy weapons because of super high molecular density, which would also apply to physical weapons, but its not totally impregnable to concentrated attacks. So maybe the Mando Iron trait would similarly make armor and weapons immune to Sunder and Breach, but only blocks Pierce up to 1 to represent still being vulnerable to weapons specifically designed for pinpoint armor piercing (as opposed to the "large scale," armor piercing represented by Breach). Then since Cortosis now provides immunity to stun, have the super dense metal provide immunity to Burn.

Finally, since "refined," Cortosis has the special effect of being able to short out Sabers, there should be a special attribute for "Pure," Beskar. Its stated to be much heavier if not an alloy, but also even more dense, so maybe it gets Cumbersome X but also Deflection X since at that density almost anything would bounce off it.

Does all that track? Any glaring balance issue stand out?

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>>52220577
You 'can' send data, but its very demanding on the network. The old WEG Imp SB (PDF attached) was probably the most definitive and interesting iteration of 'how shit works' on the Holonet, I like this explanation as its got some foundations in actual protocols you would find on a telco carrier at the data-link layer
(got to love writers that actually research shit!)

In saying that, its quite primitive so that data-layer isn't something which is easily accessible if you where to apply it to a modern OSI Model as there's another 5 transport layers before you could 'read' data in an application. Plus like a lot of long range communications there's usually a compromise between the 'range' a signal can go and the amount of data that can be transported in that signal- hence when in Rogue One they where at a data facility, there's this fucking massive signal dish used to transmit information from a cassette to wireless.

TLDR- its not the internet! Its the tubes behind the internet

>>52221080
Don't you mean "it's the internet, not the www"?

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>>52221110
Nope, I mean its not the internet- its the network layer before you even get to the interent

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>Break into Hutt Casino to heist a vault for a Schutta's Eleven adventure
>Searching through the vault with GMPC and emptying it quick to get the hell out. Character desperately looking for things more related to their obsession(jedi artifacts) than money but I don't mention this out loud. Roll a triumph on my last search check.
>GM: You find two masks... they're sith death masks.
>"Oh god no." My face as I protest

>>52220577
>>52221080
You can absolutely, definitely, send data one-way over the HoloNet, if only because the data could be encrypted into pulses of sound (like an audio modem) and/or light (like li-fi/VLC).

This is a ridiculous source, but somewhat valid: If you remember in the Holiday Special, we see various characters using viewscreens and channels on Kashyyyk to communicate with each other - between Luke, Leia, or Saun Dann and Chewbacca's family; the Imperial government and the people of Kashyyyk; and in the animated cartoon, Boba Fett and Vader. That last example is particularly notable, because it's a public terminal, accessible via a sort of ID punch card... and R2 slices into the feed to get information.

According to Wookiepedia:
Despite Tarkin declaring that the HoloNet was only to be used by the Empire, it was a "source of conspiracy theories" for individuals such as Okadiah Garson. The rebel sympathizer Hetto also maintained contact with rebel operatives such as Hera Syndulla using the HoloNet. Rebel operatives such as Gall Trayvis managed to circumvent [Imperial control of the HoloNet] by hijacking Imperial transmissions with pro-rebel propaganda.

So it's 100% viable that they could send the data via the transmission tower. It's just not the Internet. It's closer to a TV broadcast.

>>52213340
The tractor beam was more useful (in TIE Fighter anyway) since it allowed you to get missile locks on those janky fighters.

>>52220781
I have a feeling they had the ship explode because it probably wouldn't have been acceptable to show cyborg Pablo's head being fried and being electrocuted to death.

>>52220924
eh seems like a convoluted solution to a simple problem, where I would just have Beskar count as a cortosis ore (a Electrostaff, described as being made of Phrik, has the cortosis quality). Also just being dense doesn't necessarily grant protection from fire. But otherwise it seems sound.

>>52222400
However you also have to remember to actually slice into something you need to get to the terminal. This isn't cyberpunk kids hacking into government-secure databases from their basements.

>>52212042
>TLTs ruined the game so hard that they have to give the Imps a proper carrier as well so they can still claim it's balance

Yeah scum and rebels totally care about 2 guaranteed dmg with their regen and gorillion sheilds and hull.

>>52220781
>>52222739

I'm going to guess in typical imperial fashion, the AWACS Gozanti wasn't equipped with a bevy of safety features in case somebody backhacked it and overloaded it, but basically it seems like Hera poured too much data/power back up the pipe through Chop that their system crashed. You can hear one of the cyborgs say the fuel cells are compromised so I think their power or engines melted down. Which is totally something that would happen in star wars - they have no guard rails.

>>52222600
I never could balance power requirements for beam weapons.

>>52223834
It just seems so cringe and contrived.

In star wars terms, what's the equivalent to a bunch of Somali pirates hijacking ships in their vicinity and holding crew hostage for ransoms?

>>52224293
>In star wars terms, what's the equivalent to a bunch of Somali pirates hijacking ships in their vicinity and holding crew hostage for ransoms?
The exact same thing, but with Space Somalis and starships? Star Wars pirates do that stuff all the time.

>>52224290

Welcome to SW. Or at least core canon.

The Emperor dies because for some reason he has a bottomless pit with no railing in his throne room.

>>52224340
It's not like Vader couldn't have just stabbed him in the back with Luke's lightsaber if that bottomless pit wasn't there.

>>52224340
>no railing
Dont be silly there was a railing there. Vader was leaning on it while still feeling shocked

>>52222842
Yes and no. The old CIS Shadowfeed used military-strength pirate signals to form an alternate HoloNet. If anything can override the HoloNet, it's this transmitter.

>>52224504
That's just making an alternative HoloNet, not hacking into the original one.

>>52224540
K.

>>52224544
If there were like multiple large-scale governments in the Galaxy as in Legends post-Endor, I'd imagine they'd all have their own local HoloNets much like the Shadowfeed tbqh.

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>>52224293
Random pirate scum doing the same? Or Alliance Privateers with a Letter of Marque

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>>52224615

>>52224293
Basically anything Hondo Ohnaka does

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So you have two weeks of RnR. Where does your character go to relax?

>>52225034

Depends on the character, but current probably goes to a place like Cloud City.
Decently populated and decent opportunities for illegality, but not something insane like Coruscant or Nar Shadaa.

Then a whole bunch of gambling and relaxing.
And keeping an eye out for hitmen.

>>52225034
orgy planet.
SW has those, right? Star Trek does...

>>52225110
>>52225034

Yep! Zeltros. Was gonna be my answer.

In the campaign I run, we joke that Zeltros is heaven for adventurers/scoundrels/whatever, and to end up there means you'll never leave again.

>>52222739

I'm more OK with Phrik being a mechanical duplicate of Cortosis because it's differences, ie being a compound rather than an element, being an energy disperser rather than an energy conductor, and not having the brittleness that Cortosis is supposed to have, are pretty minor and not really worth a mechanical distinction. If I were to make one it would just to be to remove the physical sunder vulnerability and make stuff made.from Phrik one step more rare because it's supposed to be hard enough to manufacture that it's never been implemented on an industrial scale even in wars against Jedi, where as Cortosis has.

Your point about not necessarily being fireproof just from being dense is fair. I guess I just assumed hyperdensity would mean a poor heat conductor when in reality that's not the case as two seconds Googling made clear. Still, I like the idea of a Mando Iron armor suit coming out of a flamethrower blast unscathed so I'll probably keep it.

>>52225286

Well i mean this is star wars.
Beaming energy through a crystal makes an lightsaber that can cut through anything.

If you want superdense spacemetal to be fireproof, by god, its fireproof.

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>>52211926
I asked a few threads back right before shit 404'd but anyone got any tasty one-shots?

Here's the loot table in return

>>52214038
With shit like cluster missiles being a thing?

Maybe.
It would be fun to rack up 9-12 dmg in a single shot on the fat Rebel/scum ships considering both factions are based off of being the fattest ass in the fleet and saying fuck you to evades/relying on regen.

Would only be fair too since they already hard countered our whole factions schtick with TLTs.

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>>52225034
>AoR campaign
Pic related.

>>52225034
Gathering as much in the way of whisky and and interesting books as possible and flying off to a quiet planet with the wife

>>52225437
Like premade GM's notes or plot hooks?

>>52225873
Like modules or little adventures.

I am short on time and have done the beginner boxes to death.

>>52225437
I can give you ideas, but have nothing written down. I'm a seat-of-my-pants/improv style GM. Does that work for you?

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YOU GUYS SEE THIS YET?

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/impellerstudios/starfighter-inc-0

The only thing that concerns me is that they're going heavy on the "Hard Science" angle as opposed to the Space Opera of X-Wing vs TIE Fighter

I require help. My group is about to backstab a hutt. The job was simple and the rewards were great for an entry level job.

They were supposed to grab spice and return along with the betty bot assigned to them for aide.

They're going to kill the Betty bot because they suspect she's sending information to the Hutt.
Then sell all the spice for themselves.

I'm thinking about having a EMP device going off the moment they destroy the Betty Bot to shut down the Engines. Then have slavers take their ship as a "All according to plan" Moment from the Hutt. (The character is a flamboyant long term thinker)

>>52225437
>>52226050
EotE one-shot made for free rpg day a couple years back. Apologies if you're the guy I posted this for a couple days ago. (Note: I can't vouch for the quality but it looks ok).
https://images-cdn.fantasyflightgames.com/filer_public/18/ff/18ff8afe-bf19-47a3-97e5-a313ded3d6b3/under_a_black_sun_lores.pdf

>>52226399
>not waiting at least 10 sessions before the Hutt executes the plan so the players are totally blindsided
Revenge is a dish best served cold.

>>52226321
There are about 10 different space ship PvP fighters right now. This looks like its doing nothing new

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>>52226321
>Counter-Strike meets World of Warships in space
Let me know when Star Citizen comes out with a full campaign.

>>52226399
Just have the bot already bugged the ship with a tracking device.

then >>52226436
a couple sessions later, blamo

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>>52226399
Immediate reciprocity doesn't feel right. Let them backstab the hutt, kill the droid and get away with the spice. If they execute the plan well, let them have it.

Then make their lives harder while they think they got away with it.

Imperial customs patrols are now more frequent and surprisingly heavily armed.

Then they reach a suitable shadowport, preferrablly with a fence they already know and trust.

The fence won't touch the spice. In fact he runs you out of his shop and closes up. None of the other "reputable" buyers will go near it.

Then you can work from there. I wouldn't recommend railroading them into returning it to the Hutt in question though. Have somebody that's an old enemy of theirs, I mean somebody they really fucking hate, show up with an offer to take the hot merchandise of their hands, for a favor...


>>52226460
>Star Citizen
>Ever coming out

>>52226522
>>Star Citizen
>>Ever coming out
Exactly.

>>52226436
>>52226467
>>52226522
Fuck shit that's good plan.

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Me and my friends are about to start playing this. I haven't started reading it, but does anyone have any wisdom for me before I dive in?

>>52226645
Any reason in particular you're using this one over WEG or FFG? I've never played the d20 one but from past threads it seems to be the least liked of the three (though people still play it).

Question for anybody in/running a campaign: What are your personal thoughts about your party affecting canon events, such as killing a main character or altering the outcome of a certain event?

>>52226832
This is a d6 game, and because the person who is dming chose it I guess. We were looking at the original star wars rpg by west end, but this is the revised version of the game. So Its still west end.

>>52226645
>>52226832
Oh my b, that is the d6, didn't recognize the cover.

>>52226848
I've done it in a game I played in. If it's over the top it just seems like wish fulfillment (dude we one-shot Chewbacca lmao) but if it's more subtle/accidental I think it can be pulled off.

>>52226848
Discuss with players beforehand. It's most important to decide how the storyline affects your games in AoR games. Most of my players avoid canon as they just want to do space pirate things and the one time they did they failed to smuggle a crucial component to the Hoth ion cannon.

>>52226848
I am quiet severely against it, because if you don't stamp that idea out fast, some asshole is invariably going to try and divert the game to trying to ruin canon as thoroughly as they can

http://starwarsrp.net/

rate.

Why is the Venator so incredibly nice.

Will it get released for Armada?

>>52218220

That one could be a viable choice when big ships are in place

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>>52227344
>Why is the Venator so incredibly nice.
She's the mom of the classic Star Destroyer family. It's only natural that she'd be sweet and motherly.

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>>52227559

I want a Venator mini

>>52227010
But if you're running the game why is anyone even in a position to do that? Just don't have them bump into major characters. If someone is blatantly metagaming "hurr sure I'm gonna go to tattooine and kill Luke" everyone is gonna call them out for being a douche

>>52225034
She gets rip roaring drunk off her ass and probably ends up doing something she regrets with that androgynous alien crewmate who's been making passes for a while.

>>52226645
My tip is not to use REUP. They took a ~275 page comprehensive rulebook and decided that the best way to improve it is to ADD to it. And I don't mean just a little.

REUP weighs in at over 500 pages. It's a fucking tome, and all those extra rules might come up, what, once? Fuck that shit.

Let's cut all those out - even a shit ton of the ones in the main D6 core book - and replace them with a simple, singular rule:

The Gambit
If a player character wants to perform a more difficult task using a skill, they may declare that they wish to perform a gambit. They tell the GM their goal, the GM determines how more difficult the task becomes and adds to the TN. Then the player makes their skill roll as per normal. The GM may reward cinematic or creative ideas by adding to the player's available dice.

It's simple and covers almost any situation imaginable

The pilot wants to, for whatever reason, fly upside down? The GM says that it makes the skill check more difficult. Add +5 to the target number and roll the space transports skill.

The vibrosword-wielding melee character wants to literally disarm an enemy rather than making a generic attack? The GM says that it makes the TN +10 harder and to roll for it.

The pilot wants to shoot a proton torpedo 90 degrees downward into a two-meter-wide hole to destroy the Death Star? The GM says that it's nearly impossible, to add +30 to the target number, and roll it.

The GM doesn't need to look up any rules, they just need to be reasonable at estimating difficulties. Boom, just saved your campaign.

>>52227802
Androgynous, you say?

>>52226848
I told my characters starting out that THEY were the heroes, and canon could change drastically because of their actions. They love it.

The whole GCW went differently. Alderaan, Chandrilla, and Mon Cala were destroyed, but Yavin wasn't. The Emperor ended up dying in 1 ABY aboard the first Death Star because of Darth Vader's sabotage. Leia ended up being Vader's secret apprentice. Tarkin and Vader survived. Tarkin has named himself Regent and has seized control of the Mid and Outer Rims, while Vader is off in the Deep Core making sure that the Emperor is really gone (and can't come back as a clone).

The Rebellion got FUCKED UP too, due to Leia's deception. It was effectively dismantled.

And this was all because of a mistake the players made, in an attempt to infiltrate an ISB facility, that allowed the Empire to give them false intel.

So now they need to figure out a way to rebuild the Rebellion, while they're the galactic #1 most wanted.

>>52227919
Eyy are you that "Tarkin and Vader are gonna fight each other" guy?

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>>52227961
Yeah dude.

Check it out, I'm gettin' recognized.

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Yo /swg/, what do we know about the Central Isopter cult? They're the one detail in Rogue One that I keep focusing on. They seem interesting as fuck, and yet... there's no info. Help.

>>52228093
I read your original post regarding your campaign, and wanted to say that I love the direction you took with Vader's remnant. I feel that it is true to his character, and that many people misinterpret his character.

>>52227684
>If someone is blatantly metagaming "hurr sure I'm gonna go to tattooine and kill Luke" everyone is gonna call them out for being a douche
One would hope, right? I've just had more then a few bad experiences with groups who just want to hurr durr murderhobo and must be corralled hard to avoid that

>>52228429
link to this post?

>>52228393
>Yo /swg/, what do we know about the Central Isopter cult?
Nothing. That doesn't mean you can't make up info for them.

>>52228562
Let me try and find it; it might be a while

>>52227319
Looks to be a site full of Sues

I'm a little murky on the timeline of the founding of the formal rebellion under Legends history. Its relatively solid that the formal unification of the various cells and organizations under the three founders was in 2BBY, right? Also that Mon Mothma was forced into exile as a traitor around a year or two before that? And that Bail Organa retired from the Senate and have his seat to Leia so he could be a full time rebel and criticize the Empire from a slightly safer place around the same time as Mothma was exiled?

So, my main questions are 1) when was the attempted assassination on Harm that allowed him to be presumed dead and unify the Corellian Resistance? Wookiepedia says that one comic that portrays the event happened in 0 BBY but it seems like it had to be in or before 2BBY so he could have been operating for a while before the Alliance. 2) When was Ackbar enslaved and when was he rescued? We know he was one of the admirals helping to evacuate Yavin, and that he provided Intel on the Death Star when he was liberated, but there's not a lot of hard data on how long he was captive and when he brought them that Intel. 3) When did the rebels first learn of the DS? In force unleashed the three leaders were taken there, but I think it's implied they don't know about the weapon attached to it is capable of at the time. We're there rumors about it before that event? Was it the various Intel sources, from Ackbar to the Bothans and to whoever else that allowed to finally piece together it's true nature sometime before they started trying to steal its plans? Or did they only get the full scope of its powers when they absconded with the plans in Dark Forces?

>>52228429
Thanks man.

>>52228562
Unfortunately, it was a while ago. But I can describe the details if you want.

I think what the Anon above was referring to is that Vader's faction of the Empire would be morale-based. He would generally treat the military well, as he does the 501st. He'd allow units to customize their armor, a la the Clone Wars. He'd fight side-by-side with his men, or fly at the head of the squadrons, and lead from the front. He'd do the impossible, and his stormtroopers and generals and admirals would witness it, and they would have mutual respect.

Vader would still be a hardass when disappointed - but people wouldn't want to anyway. In contrast to Tarkin's faction, they would FIGHT for Vader.

Basically the resurgence of War Hero Jedi General Anakin Skywalker.

Did I miss anything, other Anon?

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>>52228393

>>52228783
No you didn't; that was the gist of it.

I like that you recognized that Vader doesn't generally kill his officers when they don't fail or disobey him, and that Vader has a rapport with the Stormtroopers that other command staff don't have. I think a lot of people fail to recognize this.

>>52228783
What are the other factions like, what about your setting in general?

>>52228783
So while Vader is lifting up rebel-captured AT-ST's with the force so the troopers can blast it with missiles, at home there's a veritable Vader Defense Force on the Holonet shitposting that Vader is /ourguy/. Gotcha.

>>52211926
For the TIE aggressor, how much do you think the PS 5 generic will cost?

I hope it's 19 so that I can run 2 with LWF, TLT, and Predator while fitting in Expert-Rexler, but i fear it will be 20.

If it's 21 i'll be pissed.

What cost do you guys think?

18, 19, 20, or 21?

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>>52228783
So basically, Vader would be an evil Mattis?

>>52228860
I'm assuming that the complete destruction of the Hurts and associated criminal/slaver factions is rather high on his priority list?

>>52229059
It will almost certainly be 20. The PS2 is 17, and they usually charge one point for each increase in PS. Combined with the fact that very few turret carriers have EPTs, and that one almost certainly will, they might charge a point for the EPT slot. I kinda doubt it though. Anything less than 20 is quite undercosted.

>>52229059
the standard formula is +1 point per PS increase. So 20 most likely.

>>52229223
I don't remember about that,you'll have to ask the guy running the campaign. Here he is:

>>52228783

So any idea for some fun sith artifacts to give to my Saga players?

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>>52229387
A lanvarok
Ancient Force Wars-era swords and armor
An ancient, first-generation lightsaber with the power pack and power cable
Lord Nyax's lightsaber suit
The jaw of Darth Malak
A fechtbuch penned by Exar Kun
A fechtbuch penned by Count Dooku
The masks of Darths Revan, Nihilus, Bane, Tahu, Kopaka, Gali, Lewa, Onua, and Pohatu
The Dark Book of Imperial Justice
The glove of Darth Vader

>>52229443
I knew about Vader's glove but not the Dark Book of Imperial Justice


this is amazing

3/4 ships drawn directly from Star Wars Galaxies are horrendous.

Decimator: brought big base turrets to Imperials, looks like shit, terrible for game balance.
Kihraxz: useless shit, probably the ugliest small ship yet released with the worst suited paint job, complete scrub PS9 pilot.
Aggressor: Somehow beats out the Punisher in an ugly TIE contest, brings turrets to the imperials, straight better than the Y-wing.

Only the scyk mostly escapes from this curse, and it still has a bad paint job. Why do the X-wing designers have such a hard on for ships form SWG?

>>52227863
Insofar as she can tell.

>>52226415
I appreciate it homie

>>52229954
Maybe they are bitter its dead
i know i am

Are there books to straight up avoid reading? I know there are some """quality""" authors out there

>>52230914
Wendig's Aftermath series
Anything written by that Drew Magikarp guy (the Mass Effect writer)
Anything set during and after the Vong Invasion, barring those written by Allston, Stackpole, Zahn, or Stover
RepCom after Triple Zero or Order 66 (whichever came earlier)

>>52230082
See though, I have nothing against SWG. It was a good game.

However, MMOs are not exactly known for their stellar designs.

>>52231048
You suggest that starfighter designs might be less than perfect, if their sole reason to exist is to fill a arbitrary niche in a starfighter skills tree?

>>52231112
And that asymmetrical game design is more interesting.

>>52228977
Name it and it's around. We've got the Trade Fed., Corporate Alliance and other former Seppie groups throwing off the shackles of the Empire.

Garm Bel Iblis leads an independent Corellian faction.

The forges of the Mandalorians have been lit.

The Hutts have declared themselves a sovereign nation.

The Tion Cluster has closed ranks.
Coruscant is under the influence of Sate Presage.

There's warlords everywhere - except in the areas Tarkin controls, where he invited them all to an "Imperial Continuity Council" and had them all killed.

>>52231020
Thanks anon

>>52231020
>Not liking Drew Karpyshyn

The Revan book sucked, but the Bane novels were glorious

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>>52229443
>fechtbuch

I see you brother

>>52229223
He is particularly focused on enforcing law & order, yes. However, he has a long ways to go before he can take on the Hutts or Outer Rim slavers. His power base is Coreward of Tarkins'.

>>52229387
Saga Edition already has the Mask of Darth Nihilus in the Unknown Regions sourcebook.

>>52225034
>Where does your character go to relax?
The bottom of a bottle.

>>52226645
>Me and my friends are about to start playing this. I haven't started reading it, but does anyone have any wisdom for me before I dive in?
Force-users have problems even in REUP.

Focus on what it's good at: characters with skill pools under 8D, space combat, and running away from explosions specialties.

>>52226848
>What are your personal thoughts about your party affecting canon events
Do your best to avoid it. It's a huge universe. There's plenty of other shit to do.

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>>52211926

Does anyone else get this sinking feeling whenever they see FFG take a ship from Star Wars Galaxies into X-Wing? The Aggressor was a T4 ship, and one of my favorite before the game was killed.

>>52232201
should have mentioned but we are presently pre Malachor V

>>52232453
Ooh. So when-abouts? Exar Kun's time, sometime prior to the events of the game, or way earlier?

Because with how Space Egyptian that Tales of the Jedi made the Sith race out to be, you could totally do all sorts of weird scepters and helmets.

Draw liberally from Stargate's Goa'uld for design, too.

Dark side artifacts should always offer power in return for some curse or drawback. Especially in the Legends continuity, where the dark side is explicitly corrupting not only of mind but of body as well.

Is there a pdf of the corellian conflict rules anywhere?

>>52226321
Oh it's back. It already failed to Kickstart once back in 2016, and I think they only wanted 100k that time.

>>52232415
Any classic TIE variant is fine by me. The Madness of Raith Sienar must be preserved.

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>>52232415
Be glad that Galaxies is remembered. The flight sims' starship and character selection has barely been tapped.

>>52232817
Some in FFG must love SWG, there's a ton of stuff from it in Lords of Nal Hutta and Suns of Fortune.

>>52232415

Honestly, The Aggressor is a cheap turret carrier and comes with TLT. It's good ship for that alone, and a beautiful mini. You should feel good, somebody remembered it and thought it was good enough to slip into a mini.

>>52233011

Stay on Target too, though that also had some old fighter sim nods.

>>52232575
We are literally on the battle before Malachor V. One of the PC's is a Feeorin so the penultimate battle is gonna be a retaking of Odryn and somehow some of the artifacts below the temple of the Exalted are gonna miraculously survive.

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Does the original X-wing really need an update more desperately than the Starviper and the E-wing, or is it just fanboyism?

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>>52232415
>>52232817
>>52233011
Is the Galaxies emu any good or is it plauged by the norms of all private servers, dead population, shitty mods, game play tweaked because "LOL who wants multiple hubs for people"?

>>52233936
There's at least one server preserved as much as possible, and it was semipopulated from what I recall.

>>52233782
In terms of marketing and sales? Yes. The E and Starviper are unknown to non-Legends fans. Their sales are probably paltry compared to the T-65. It reflects badly on the company and game when the most iconic ship in the franchise (and the title ship of the game) doesn't see much high-level competitive play outside of Biggs, who is boring anyway.

>>52233782
The E-wing is the ship most in need of a fix. By far. Its generics are near pre-fix Advanced levels of underpowered, which no other ship in the game is near anymore. The E-wing fix needs to be substantial.

Kihraxz is probably second after that honestly. The only decent pilot it has is its PS5 generic. Its dial is mediocre with the lack of one straight and it is surprisingly easy to just blow up. It needs a series of titles that give it different upgrade options for cheaper.

Both the T-65 and Starviper have some decent pilots. The Starviper named pilots are both decent, if slightly overpriced. Xizor acts counter to how a lot of people think but he can still be put in competent lists. Guri has one of the best abilities in the game.

The T-65 still has some problems, but it has one pilot that continues to make top 16 in most major tournaments (Biggs), and a few more that have potent abilities in the right set up (Wes, Wedge, Tarn). It's probably the ship that needs a fix the least out of the ones that do, but it definitely still does, and what's the game called again? I'd accept a slightly overpowered X-wing just because it's the namesake of the game and Rebels damn well should be using them.

Also, the T-70 should benefit from whatever fix the T-65 gets. It's almost as bad, and was apparently designed in the same mold as the T-65 precisely so they could do that.

>>52234029
Good write up. I think you've hit the nail on the head.

>>52233976
I'd wager the Starviper sells a lot better than anything that has a T-65 in it just because of autothrusters.

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>>52222400
The other reason to believe they'd use an analogue component in it is that when you do see a transmission, its got those old timey flickering, scan lines and static noise through an image. Well, for those of you who remember non-digital tv :)
Plus droids communicate through pitch-noise beeps and squeals, connect to systems by 'twisting a knob' on the computer socket so they can tune into the right modulation frequency.

So there's either a digital-analogue-digital component to it, or they just go for raw grunt and throw big power through a completely analogue system. SW tech is 'sort of' like our own in some places and a healthy dose of space magic in others, which reflects the 1970's (and earlier) influences on the movies.

>>52234212
>The T-65 is in the box you need to play the game
Checkmate.

>>52234266
Unless you get the T-70 box instead.

>>52234266
Also
>Wedge
>Luke
>R2-D2
>Biggs
>Porkins
The T-65 has star power, which the Starviper lacks.

>>52227919
How fappable does dark Leia look like?

Favorite canon novels?

Mine are Tarkin and Catalyst. Luceno is excellent at writing Imperial political intrigue, which, aside from Vader and space-western stuff, might very well be my favorite thing in the setting.

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>>52234531
The is the photoshopped image I dropped on them when she revealed herself. So not particularly... yet. Next time they see her, she'll look a little more confident.

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>>52234596
I'll maybe use something a little closer to this, next time around.

>>52234665
I hate this image

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>>52234665
Or maybe even this, but without the silly makeup.

>>52234665
that short hair muh dick

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>>52234706
Okay, that was mostly me just liking tits. So instead....

>>52234706
the makeup is what you find silly in that image

>>52234741
now if only we had this in twi'lek form and with the normal imp officer hat

>>52234743
Hey man... if I found the rest silly, I'd probably... I dunno, unironically like Chuck Wendig's writing.

>>52234806
>...
You type like the kind of person who would.

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>>52234819
Fuck man, I'm high. Leave my typing style out of this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ052OWs3IE

spoilers for the newest rebels episode.
Obi Wan switching to Qui gon's style then killing maul when Qui gon died to a very similar movie is fucking amazing and I love how quick it is.

what kind of threat level would an alternate universe anakin skywalker who never went sith and went rebel instead pose to the empire?
say he didn't fall for sheevey P's scam but was too late to stop 66/the formation of the empire

>>52235093
The same that any one man can do against an Empire

As much as he could

>>52235093
He'd kill a whole bunch of inquisitors before Sheev finds him and dies because that's probably how Anakin brings balance to the Force in this universe.

>>52234989
how the fuck is maul still alive?

>>52235093
>what kind of threat level would an alternate universe anakin skywalker who never went sith and went rebel instead pose to the empire?
As high as the threat levels go and then some
He was the most dangerous fucking man alive with the republic and Jedi holding him back. No brakes on the anakin train equals a loose cannon one man apocalypse doing his level best to set the entire galaxy on fire
So yeah, threat level cyka blyad

>>52234989
At least he's down for good now. Also that samurai style duel was pretty rad.

>>52234989
GOOD
IT'S ABOUT TIME

>>52234689
why are you gay

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>>52235093
He'd be the most hunted and most dangerous man in the galaxy. His body count would make Luke and Kyle look lazy, ImpInt would devote millions or billions of credits to trying to assassinate him, and the Missile Boat program might have ended up green-lit just so there might be something that could threaten him in the void.

And that's without accounting for the allies that he'd bring into the fold. The entire 501st would have followed him into the jaws of hell, as would a shitload of other Clone Wars veterans. His status as THE hero of the Clone Wars would also go a long way towards improving Rebellion recruitment efforts across the galaxy.

>>52235093
Extinction-level danger just on his own.
Let him get his friends gathered up there'd be hell for lunch

>>52235604
>and the Missile Boat program might have ended up green-lit just so there might be something that could threaten him in the void.
But what happens when he manages to steal one? The risk is just way too high

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>>52235669
Then the Empire has the following options:
Throw more Missile Boats at him
Hope his mechanical genius is insufficient to compensate for the ship's undoubtedly astronomical maintenance and part prices
Tell Tarkin to go fuck himself and invest in more Lancers
Hope the Rebellion runs out of its missile budget before the Empire runs out of Star Destroyers

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>>52235093
Danger level 10/10 no fucking way
Also
>Anakin Skywalker leading rogue squadron

>>52235093
Sheev would never stop trying to recruit him. Schemes within schemes within schemes.

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>>52235754
>Veers' face when he sees Echo Base defended by Anakin, Obi-Wan, Luke, Rogue Squadron, and the de-chipped 501st
>Trioculus' face when he faces off against the Glove of Anakin Skywalker

>>52235754
>Anakin Skywalker leading rogue squadron
"we've had to invest a large portion of the rebellion's budget in SFS just to ensure there are enough TIEs to blow up on a day-to-day basis"

>>52235093
Anakin is literally a fascist since Episode II and TCW builds up on this so I doubt he'd be against the Empire much even without being a Sith.

>>52233936
There's the big "official" server, but it's kinda dead. Population's like 1500 tops. Willing to bet most are afk docs/ents/artisans.

>>52234989

The Qui-Gonn/Maul fight for comparison

https://youtu.be/yHqdESArkqU?t=148

whats the big deal about missle boats

>>52235202
Nightsister magic.

>>52237474
Videogame masturbation that's killing Star Wars.

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>>52234989
When You were dying in a junk heap, I studied The Saber.

When you were building a Mandalorian rogue state, I mastered Soresu.

While you wasted your days in the pursuit of power, I cultivated inner strength.

>>52237474
cheesy vidya endgame superfighter with eleventy billion missiles to satisfy macross fantasies, has attained light meme status because of how absolutely stone vidya silly it was

>>52234989
What a fucking anti-climax. How does this shit keep on getting made?

>>52229954
>Kihraxz: useless shit, probably the ugliest small ship yet released with the worst suited paint job
HEY. You leave my Kihraxz alone, he's done nothing wrong!

>>52237502

When you get down to it, everything that Obi-Wan achieved with his saber from that point on was down to watching that fight and trying to think a way to win it.

This is the guy who fought Greivous the 20+ Jedi Killer to a standstill, who survived a fight with Dooku more than twice, and is the ONLY person to beat Darth Vader, like definitively beat Darth Vader, in his prime, and who ISN'T related to him.

All of that started from the point that he watched Maul kill Qui-Gonn from behind the layered plot based ray-shielding.

>>52237612
Obi didn't win that fight because of his skill with a saber, but because the Dark Side had caused Anakin to develop even worse judgement than he had before. I'd bet the majority of jedi could have cut Anakin's arms and legs off while he was trying to jump over them like a retard.

>>52237633
a majority of jedi wouldn't have lasted long enough to have had a chance to

>>52237633
This.

Everyone knows Obi-wan didn't win that fight by being the superior saber-fighter. He won that fight because he took the high ground.

>>52237633

Even so, it's literally just him and Luke who can definitvely say that they beat Darth Vader.

Fact: Darth Vader has only been beaten by people who loved him.

It turns out love is the strongest force in the universe.

>>52237633
Darth Maul couldn't have.

>>52237702
Darth Maul used a stupid weapon that couldn't do half the shit a normal saber could do unless he turned one end off. Also, Obi Wan didn't announce his intention to jump over Maul.

>>52234989
That was Kurosawa as fuck.

Every once in a while Rebels knocks it out of the park.

>>52229954
>Decimator looks awful

Talkin shit about my shipfu?

Anyone else at the Naboo Systems Open? This place is swank

>>52237858
That ending for maul was pretty good.

Though atbthe same time most of this season I've been thinking maul was a wasted opportunity, to explore a little more grey morality. Maul as a sort of proto Saw, someone who's part of the rebellion because he hates the Emperor/empire. But shunned for his methods. As well as exploring the mixed force users thing, where they're neither sith nor jedi.

>>52229954
>straight better than the Y-wing.

The Y-wing is literally an antique.

>>52237549
Prequelfag spotted

Is Maul finally permanently dead? Can Rebellion-era nucanon finally focus on new, more entertaining villains instead of stroking Filoni's team's Maulboner?

>>52238786
Pleb detected. Elements of good storytelling are universal and objective, and if you liked that, you like objective trash.

>>52235202
Literal space voodoo

>>52237689

We've known that since 8-Bit theatre.

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What can /tg/ tell me about Zaarin? I'm playing through TIE Fighter and am starting to respect him.


Also post Imperials/First Order

>>52238034
You have awful taste in ships

>>52239423
First Warlord and Worst Warlord.

Im not sure how many people play hotac but I was wondering if there was a general rule of thumb for balancing the number of ai ships with the number of players

>>52239423
He was an absolute mad lad who thought you could go independent in the Empire while Palpatine was still alive, pre endor. Okey, fair enough you think, you can probably go rogue and cut yourself off in some hard to reach sector right?
WRONG. Dude tries to kidnap Palpatine. Seriously. I'll leave it at that untill you finish the game.
Also he's a bit like the Senator Armstrong of advanced starfighters.

>>52238808
Yes. Maul really should've just gotten a further extended arc on Mandalore in TCW, and died at the end of it.

>>52239693

It also results in one of the best Thrawn being Thrawn moments in Star Wars.

>>52240000
Does he go "All according to keikaku" while watching that other admiral get destroyed?

So, Obiwan now believes that Luke is the chosen one? He really is a crazy old fucking wizard.

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>>52240265

>"Such is the fate of enemies of the Empire."

A line so cool you don't even notice that his part of the cutscene is recycled from earlier on.

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>>52240337
>See that shit over there Luke?
>That's where the crazy old fucking wizard Obi Wan lives, you go up there and hang out with him I'll beat your arse.
>Bu bu but uncle owen!
>He's nothing but trouble! Crazy trouble!

This talk of TIE fighter is bringing back old memories. So why exactly did Admiral Harkov want to defect to the Rebellion? He wasn't an ideologue and the rebellion can't pay better. Or was he hoping to defect and take over?

>>52240712

Most of his actions make it seem like he's in it for the money (he was selling Imperial munitions on the black market well before defecting). Sure, the Rebels didn't have much, but Mon Mothma seemed willing to pay well for an "officer of his caliber."

Though to be honest, ol' Harky didn't seem like the sharpest knife in the drawer. If I remember right, he invites a Rebel agent aboard his ship in the middle of a battle, abandons a perfectly-intact VicStar in favor of hiding out on a space platform, and literally names his escape ship "Getaway".

Testing out this tourney build today. Place your bets.

Corran Horn [R2-D2, Fire-Control System, Push the Limit, Engine Upgrade] (48)

Miranda Doni [Twin Laser Turret, Extra Munitions, Homing Missiles, Sabine Wren, Ion Bombs, Conner Net, Advanced SLAM] (52)

>>52241190
Did you blow out a guy with 2 Ghosts?

>>52241290
uh..?
no
I feel like I'm missing something.

Captain Jonus with UGM together with two TLT Aggressors.
LW Frames all around.
Thoughts?

>>52241290
that sounds kind of dirty anon

>>52241536
I was expecting the bottom to be Jar Jar

>>52228783

I'm curious, what happened to Luke, Obi-Wan, and Yoda in your setting?

>>52241335

Jonus does literally nothing to UGM's mate.

>>52241536
>Jaded Outcast
>Not Jedi Outcast
ONE JOB

>>52241335

What >>52241838 said.

You want Tomax with Crack Shot with UGM's. Then you've got a nice little murderer.

>TLT Agressors

I really don't want this to become a thing. TLT spam is fucking unfun to play against enough already. If they end up everywhere at the next two opens I'd expect them to get nerfed into the ground right after releasing Wave 11, along with Mindlink from the looks of it.

I like the look of Synced Turrets more, just because they seem more balanced and fun to play with.

>>52241597
The PCs intercepted the message from Leia to Obi-Wan, and attempted to deliver the droid to Alderaan themselves for the reward. However, they didn't find C-3PO... who still made it to the Lars Homestead.

So the Empire still came a-knockin' and killed Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru. Luke had, luckily, been picking up the power converters from Tosche Station at the time, and survived. He came back to find Old Ben frantically searching the homestead in search of Luke.

Together, they went back to Obi-Wan's hovel and found a smuggler desperate enough to take on a new hand and his weird, elderly "grandfather." Obi-Wan's end goal is to bring Luke to Yoda, but they don't have the credits to get their own ship - yet.

Eventually, they make it and Luke is trained by Obi-Wan and Yoda together. With no real time limit... they're ready to swoop in and save the day when Luke is ready.

The really interesting thing is how Mace Windu is alive, blind, dark and having turned away from the Jedi Order... and training the PC Jedi-wannabe to be his cynical, anti-Imperial weapon. Yoda/Kenobi/Luke aren't gonna like that.

>>52228783
What about the civilians though?

>>52241290
I thought you meant you were at a tourney, a buddy of mine got killed at Naboo by that list

>>52241190
Seen a thousand times/10

>>52242303
but will it blend?

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I really like this Sabine art. Anybody know the artist or where to find the full picture?

>>52241838
>>52241906
Jonus is for the TLTs
UGM is just to bump his attack value

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>>52242357
literally googled "FFG Sabine Wren".

>>52242565
yeah, I'm not seeing that shit on google. same exact search, scrolled for ages and nothing.

>munitions for A-Wings

So did somebody in the Rebels writing room remember they're supposed to carry missiles now?

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>>52242838

Guys are we going to get Sabine's Hammerhead as the next epic ship for rebels?

>>52242230
What about them? They're happy that, in this chaotic and turbulent time, THEIR planets aren't the ones being fought over. THEY have strong and obvious continuity of leadership between the Emperor and Vader.

>>52242378
It seems like a good combo but the big problem I can see with it is if you're keeping everyone bunched up at range 1 of each other to get the Jonus Bonus then your TLT donut holes are going to overlap significantly and it's going to be fairly easy for ships to slip in and deny you firing your TLTs at all.

>>52242987
First 5 results are the same for me, after that it's completely different shit.

>>52243055
>Sabine's
What?
Would love to push around a Hammerhead though. I'd prefer a Nebulon B already.

>>52243080
Hmm...
We'll I'll have to try it out but that is a very good point

>>52229116
The funny part is imagining Mattis saying that in his super soft/pseudo lisping voice.

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>Luke, did I ever tell you about Darth Maul? He was Sheev's apprentice before Dooku and Vader that used a double-bladed lightsaber. He fought against my master Qui-Gon on Naboo, and managed to kill him. Fortunately, even though I was still a Padawan I managed to cut him in half by taking advantage of the fact that he didn't know how to use the High Ground. However, it turned out that his hate somehow allowed him to survive getting cut in half and falling down a bottomless pit, and he somehow managed to escape from Naboo and become a cyborg spider on some other planet. Years later, during the Clone Wars, his brother Savage Opress found him and upgraded his cyborg legs. They went on a rampage across the Galaxy, trying to get revenge both on me and his former master Sheev. It's such a pity that he never told anyone that Sheev was a Sith Lord, that would have saved us a lot of trouble. They later took over Mandalore and killed the only woman I had ever loved right in front of me. Eventually, like 2 years ago ago in fact, Maul tracked me down here on Tatooine and I defeated him in just one strike, it was embarrassingly easy really. I held him in his arms and told him Luke was the chosen one as he died and closed his eyelids as a sign of respect, he was a good friend.

>>52244008
>Luke, did I ever tell you about Darth Maul?
>I held him in his arms and told him Luke was the chosen one
Waiter this pasta smells funny

>>52244059
Haha, Not that anon, but, Luke was the chosen one, as was Anakin.

>>52244238
It's more why is Obi saying Luke was the chosen one when he's talking directly to Luke
That's not how grammar works

>>52244008
Is this from Rebels? Well, it's about damned fucking time they killed him off. Eh, what does it matter. When they reboot the setting in another twenty years, again, Maul will have died in ep1, as was the original intent.

>>52244238
Luke wasn't the Chosen One. That's Anakin.

Luke was a catalyst to get the Chosen One back to what he should have done in the first place.

Obi-Wan may say that Luke is the Chosen One, but remember this is seventeen years after he saw Anakin lead the destruction of everything he knew - even Yoda thought the prophecy could have been misread.

>>52244266
That is a stupid thing to fuck up, I didn't see it before.
>>52244312
They were both Chosen Ones, Anakin failed originally and would never have succeeded without Luke's love, I like to think the original prophecy had it all right, a Chosen One would appear and bring ruin to the force, his son would rise and bring him back to the balance, and together they would bring balance to the force. We may never know, as I doubt Disney's gonna make something so important to the story clear in the slightest.

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Who came up with the original chosen one prophecy in-universe, anyway? And why did everyone in the OJO seem to believe it without question? Even by the prequel era, the Jedi still had their share of doubters and heathens (Dooku, young Kanan, Qui-Gon).

>>52244463
Qui-Gon believed whole-heartedly in the prophecy, so I do not know why you included him and Dooku never expressed an opinion on the prophecy. As for your question, we do not know, neither legends nor new canon has that answer, as far as I know, anyway.
Captcha: Capitano Zapata

>>52244604
I just included Qui-gon as an example of people who were considered "unconventional" compared to OJO thinking. Off the top of my head, I can't really think of any Jedi whose opinions to the prophecy weren't agreement, indifference, or unspecified.

>>52241536
>mfw Kyle Katarn has always been best
Your newfagginess is showing.

>>52244649
Prophecy is always murky, and is often self fulfilling, in that if you believe it often comes to pass. The OJO, or at least most members, believed it was true. but not everything was clear about it, and it was obviously easily misinterpreted.

>>52244736
>Hurr I played Star Wars video games in the 90s, so Kyle Katarn is my mancrush
>I blatantly ignore how the Force is supposed to work, 'cause muh leather jacket-wearing, Sith lightning-wielding coolguy Rebel Jedi

>>52245067
>Sith lightning-wielding coolguy Rebel Jedi
Not just running in with as many blasters as you can carry filling every available molecule of space with plasma fire? Fucking forcefags.

>>52244463
I always wondered why Lucas felt the need to add a prophecy to the mix.

All this incidental Tie love is making me think that bombers might actually become meta.

R8 H8 Masterb8
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>>52245067
>Using lightning in the first place
The games are infinitely more fun when you only invest in non-Dark powers.. Killing people with the Force is boring. Doomguy Katarn is the best way to play.

>>52245176

That's pretty nice actually.

I'm not sure what the point of Jonus is, did you just need someone at PS8? Taking Tomax without Crackshot seems wrong, but if you can make it work, more power to you.
There are still lists that can munch and arcdodge this, but I do like what it offers.

>>52245170
>because he can
No one questioned him when he wrote the prequels

>>52245176
Crackshot. Crackshot should be on everything.

Drop Jonus down to another Gamma Vet with Fleet Officer, which will allow you to shoot when you K-turn. Give your attack bombers lightweight frame since GC is literally worthless in that build.

But I like your base idea, and I definitely think bomber swarms might end up being a thing.

>>52245067
>using dark side powers in those games
>thinking everyone else is just as pleb-tier as you
No anon, you are the Jaden

>>52241536
>c-3p0 not an option
booooooooooooooooo

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>>52245067
Wow. I did not realize a single person could be this cumulatively stupid.

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>>52241536
>my main man Kir Kanos included
The 90's were good for Star Wars comics

>>52245362
Crack shot is nice but I like the guidance chips because it's hard to modify the dice for the missiles and the pilot skill might be more beneficial give you don't have the manuverability of lighter ships but still have have a barrel roll to jive around once the chips are down.

And yes, Jonus is just there for the PS, because the list relies on getting those early bonus focus tokens from Operations specialist and putting it on Bren ruins his offensive potential.

Not putting Crack on Bren was a conscious decision because of how inflexible the dial is and I'd like to have an out or at least more mobile platform.

>>52245718
Oh not guidance chips I meant VI.

But the guidance chips do make the list more reliable.

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>>52245641
>tfw nucanon comic book covers will never be this over-the-top hardcore

>>52241536
Where is Maarek Stele?